Karl Urban delivered his lines so perfectly in The Two Towers, especially when Gimli, Aragorn and Legolas first meet him. His bitterness toward what has happened to him, his men, and his king is tempered by signs of humanity and compassion when he gives the two horses to those three. His scowling face and menacing gaze makes him tough and fearsome in appearance, yet he is an even-tempered man. Though Elrond looks down at the courage and honor of men, between Eomer, Theoden, Aragorn and Faramir, those four show the most nobility, courage, wisdom and sympathy towards others. Such well-written characters both in the books and movies.
Theoden has been my favorite, in large part because of his redemption arc. To go from having a mind poisoned by Grima to valiantly leading a seemingly hopeless charge at Pelennor Fields makes him stand out in my mind. Theoden, along with Faramir and Eowyn, are arguably my favorite LOTR characters.
In _Unfinished Tales_ Tolkien wrote that Éomer's esteem of Théodred was second only to his esteem for Théoden. Wormtongue tried to set them against each other but their bond was too strong for him to affect it.
@@montymont4192 Yeah, in some ways Amazon using the Fourth Age would have been better as you could go forward enough that none of the canon characters of LotR would still be alive and any story would be fresh. The only problem is that by then elves and dwarves will likely be fading from the picture and the enemies of the Men of the West would mostly be Men of the East or Men of the South rather than orcs, trolls, etc. You'd be stuck with a story that might look more like European politics and warfare circa 1350. Still you would have a lot more creative freedom in the Fourth Age without getting all the fanboys at their keyboards regarding how dare you tinker with the canon timeline, lore, or characters.
So Eowyn and Eomer end up marrying cousins (princess Lothíriel would be Faramir's cousin). That's got to be convenient when you're deciding which side of the family to spend the holidays with.
HELM HAMMERHAND! You do not ask leave to wed his daughter 🤣 Beautifully done and narrated Jake. The love you have for the character and source material really comes through. in your words man!
My favorite character. I would have loved to see the development of his relationship with Eowyn and Faramir. I greatly missed Imrahil of Dol Amorth and would have LOVED ❤ to see a romance blossom between him and Lady Lothiriel! A shame we won't see that 😢
Eomer has always been one of my favorite characters. That scene where he and Gimli are sparring words and then Legolas draws his bow is delicious. And then we see him show his more noble and honorable side after Aragorn asks about the hobbits. Liked him even more after I played the Battle For Middle Earth 2 game, the rohirim really put in the work.
The scene with him and Gimli in the book is funny, where he calls Gimli to him after Sauron's defeat and they are in Minas Tirith. He asks Gimli if he brought his axe. He says no and then Éomer tells him that now that he's seen her (among all the dignitaries visiting), he doesn't think Galadriel is the most beautiful person ever. Gimli replies by saying he's going to fetch his axe now.
What-if video idea for you to do: What if Gandalf never fell at the Bridge of Khazad-dum and continued with the fellowship to Lothlorien and on forward?
To me, Eomer is an example of what a real man should be. He is honorable and answers when he is called to suppport his ally Gondor. He is someone who was raised to put the welfare of others before his own, which is the way a true king should behave. I wish there were more modern men who were like him. Honor Above All.
What was he doing after Lord of the Rings? He became a medical doctor and served as the chief medical officer on the starship USS Enterprise for crissakes...
Great video as always! Just a heads up about the pronunciation of Elfwine (and Holdwine, Déorwine, and Folcwine while we're at it): The "-wine" part isn't pronounced as a single syllable (like the alcoholic beverage), but as two separate short syllables - "wi-neh" - pretty much like "winner" without the "r". It's derived from Old English word for "friend" - "wine" (in two syllables). So it's "Elf-wi-neh", "Hold-wi-neh", etc., not "Elf-wine", "Hold-wine", and so on. I see (or rather, hear) this mistake made a lot.
Dont get me wrong as a warrior and king Eomer was impressive but there is one king who is often shouted about but barely spoken of Thenguil(apologies if spelt wrong)Theoden father im also more intrigued about how Aragorn knew him when he mentions him to Eweyn? 😁👍
Aragorn is a dunedain and so he lives longer than most men. He's like 80 years old in the lord of the rings. When he was young man and Theoden was just a boy, Aragorn fought with Thengel under a fake name to keep his identity as heir to gondor a secret
I believe they are from somewhere else, they are not numernoran some of them probably married people from families of Gondor but their primary blood would be from the north closer to the shire which i why believe they know of the hobbits but came to Rohan after they helped Gondor and were give the lands of Rohan as a reward and to for a pact of eternal and perpetual alliance. Close allies and kingdoms but not from the same bloodlines, but they do intermingle a bit as time passes. If that makes sense to you.
@@juancarlosreyes5138 Ah, Ok. I thought they were from the north as in the Laketown region but that makes sense. Driven south by the witch king wars maybe?
@@mightymulatto3000 I understood the story to be that they saw a great army coming to threaten Gondor and Eorl got a messenger asking for aid from the Steward Cirion. He knew Gondor falling would be catastrophic and went to help. After the battle was won, Cirion knowing Gondor strength was fading and his forces were stretched thin and Eorl people needed space and fields, hey having an ally kingdom with strong ties would be helpful and we can strengthen our borders and retreat a bit without conceding territory to our enemies. It was a smart move by the Cirion to offer the land to Eorl and his people for helping, a good place for Eorl to strengthen his people and establish a kingdom.
Um, there's a few things in the background that are not quite right. While Tolkien was indeed inspired by both the Prose Edda and the Poetic Edda, and was hugely influenced by Béowulf, we should not make the mistake of collecting them as the same type of thing. The Edda were from Iceland, and constitute a record of the rich mythology of the Norse folk. Tolkien viewed them with envious eyes, for we Anglo-Saxons had had our oral tradition virtually destroyed by the Normans. Consequently, Béowulf is the *only* surviving Anglo-Saxon mythology. Tolkien based the Rohirrim on the Anglo-Saxons (as best he could). The Rohirrim most assuredly do not have a connection to Norse mythology, except insofar as the two worlds coexisted uneasily and collided often. Tolkien's dwarves owe more to the Norse mythology than do any other of the free peoples of Middle Earth.
Still, due to the kinship of the Saxons and the Northmen, many similarities exist between the two cultures, so some inspiration could reasonably be drawn from one and applied to the other.
He's the example of what a commander and a leader should be. 2nd age "Galadriel" should learn a few things from this man. After all she is only a few thousand years old and definitely has not seen what he had seen.
Uhhhh... you know that part is canon accurate right? Well, Galadriel has seen a lot of stuff: but seeing and learning aren't the same. Galadriel took a long time to become the mature, regal, wise queen we see her as in LotR. The part about her being a bit of an arrogant jerk back in the day is entirely lore accurate. A lot of the rest of the show isn't, but that part is.
What exactly do you mean by saying 'had no kindred in his mother tongue' immediately after mentioning Beowulf? The last time I checked, Beowulf is an ***Old English*** epic poem. I do believe Professor Tolkien spoke English as his mother tongue.
We got Old English, Middle English, Early Modern English and then what we speak now. Lots of changes :) Really interesting topic, as is diachronic linguistics as a whole :)
I never got into it, so it's not cannon. It's just a colossal waste of money on Hollywood's part. Their loss, not mine. I will always consider Tolkien's words over some execs.
With this being our last video before Christmas, I just wanted to say, HAPPY HOLIDAYS to you all!
I hope you all have a great one 😄
Thank you. Y'all as well. This is a great video. Great work
Merry Christmas & a thumb down for the stupid 'Happy Holidays'.
Karl Urban delivered his lines so perfectly in The Two Towers, especially when Gimli, Aragorn and Legolas first meet him. His bitterness toward what has happened to him, his men, and his king is tempered by signs of humanity and compassion when he gives the two horses to those three. His scowling face and menacing gaze makes him tough and fearsome in appearance, yet he is an even-tempered man. Though Elrond looks down at the courage and honor of men, between Eomer, Theoden, Aragorn and Faramir, those four show the most nobility, courage, wisdom and sympathy towards others. Such well-written characters both in the books and movies.
Theoden has been my favorite, in large part because of his redemption arc. To go from having a mind poisoned by Grima to valiantly leading a seemingly hopeless charge at Pelennor Fields makes him stand out in my mind. Theoden, along with Faramir and Eowyn, are arguably my favorite LOTR characters.
Theoden for sure and Snowmane.
I can him Big Dick Theoden IRL
In _Unfinished Tales_ Tolkien wrote that Éomer's esteem of Théodred was second only to his esteem for Théoden. Wormtongue tried to set them against each other but their bond was too strong for him to affect it.
"Hail, Eomer, King of the Mark!" -- Rohirrim
I still would love to see stories about his adventures in the fourth age
maybe if amazon got the rights to the 4th age there’d be a lot less to complain about
Sounds great!
@@montymont4192 nah they'd still make a pile a shite
@@vikingodin1986 i sadly have to agree
@@montymont4192 Yeah, in some ways Amazon using the Fourth Age would have been better as you could go forward enough that none of the canon characters of LotR would still be alive and any story would be fresh. The only problem is that by then elves and dwarves will likely be fading from the picture and the enemies of the Men of the West would mostly be Men of the East or Men of the South rather than orcs, trolls, etc. You'd be stuck with a story that might look more like European politics and warfare circa 1350. Still you would have a lot more creative freedom in the Fourth Age without getting all the fanboys at their keyboards regarding how dare you tinker with the canon timeline, lore, or characters.
Eomer is my favorite ❤ Karl Urban did such a great job ❤
Haven't seen this all the way through yet but strongly suspect he was being a badass.
Don't forget that awesome spear flip he does in the movie!!
So Eowyn and Eomer end up marrying cousins (princess Lothíriel would be Faramir's cousin).
That's got to be convenient when you're deciding which side of the family to spend the holidays with.
HELM HAMMERHAND!
You do not ask leave to wed his daughter 🤣
Beautifully done and narrated Jake. The love you have for the character and source material really comes through. in your words man!
I only know him from the movies but I got the impression immediately he was a class act and honorable.
My favorite character.
I would have loved to see the development of his relationship with Eowyn and Faramir.
I greatly missed Imrahil of Dol Amorth and would have LOVED ❤
to see a romance blossom between him and Lady Lothiriel! A shame we won't see that 😢
ROHIRRIM, TO THE KING!!!
Eomer has always been my favourite character in the trilogy followed by Boromir and Legolas then. Love seeing him represented
Love the videos as always usually im all over the dwarf videos but if it's got eomer or borimir you can bet ima watch it keep em coming
Beautiful art and story telling
A perfect bro. excellent for the nerds, excellent for the jocks. Wonderful.
Even when his sword falls out! 😄
Eomer has always been one of my favorite characters. That scene where he and Gimli are sparring words and then Legolas draws his bow is delicious. And then we see him show his more noble and honorable side after Aragorn asks about the hobbits.
Liked him even more after I played the Battle For Middle Earth 2 game, the rohirim really put in the work.
The scene with him and Gimli in the book is funny, where he calls Gimli to him after Sauron's defeat and they are in Minas Tirith. He asks Gimli if he brought his axe. He says no and then Éomer tells him that now that he's seen her (among all the dignitaries visiting), he doesn't think Galadriel is the most beautiful person ever. Gimli replies by saying he's going to fetch his axe now.
What-if video idea for you to do:
What if Gandalf never fell at the Bridge of Khazad-dum and continued with the fellowship to Lothlorien and on forward?
To me, Eomer is an example of what a real man should be. He is honorable and answers when he is called to suppport his ally Gondor. He is someone who was raised to put the welfare of others before his own, which is the way a true king should behave. I wish there were more modern men who were like him. Honor Above All.
It is also interesting that Éomer was distantly related to Aragorn by blood.
Nice work dude
What was he doing after Lord of the Rings?
He became a medical doctor and served as the chief medical officer on the starship USS Enterprise for crissakes...
After lord of the rings, Eomer went onto being recruited into an organization called The Gentleman, being nicknamed something that rhymes with Butcher
Great video as always!
Just a heads up about the pronunciation of Elfwine (and Holdwine, Déorwine, and Folcwine while we're at it):
The "-wine" part isn't pronounced as a single syllable (like the alcoholic beverage), but as two separate short syllables - "wi-neh" - pretty much like "winner" without the "r".
It's derived from Old English word for "friend" - "wine" (in two syllables).
So it's "Elf-wi-neh", "Hold-wi-neh", etc., not "Elf-wine", "Hold-wine", and so on.
I see (or rather, hear) this mistake made a lot.
Dont get me wrong as a warrior and king Eomer was impressive but there is one king who is often shouted about but barely spoken of Thenguil(apologies if spelt wrong)Theoden father im also more intrigued about how Aragorn knew him when he mentions him to Eweyn? 😁👍
Aragorn is a dunedain and so he lives longer than most men. He's like 80 years old in the lord of the rings. When he was young man and Theoden was just a boy, Aragorn fought with Thengel under a fake name to keep his identity as heir to gondor a secret
Aragorn lived at King Thengel's court and fought for him under the name "Thorongil"
Now is the hour riders of Rohan oath you have taken fulfill them all for lord and land
Hail Eomer
King of the Riddermark
Eomer and I are the same height.
I enjoyed this video. thank you.
Great video guys as all ways, and my favourite king of rohon was probably thaoden.
And merry Christmas guys and a good one🎄🎉
After LOTR Eomer was hunting down assholes with superpowers.
Is Rohan an offshoot of Numinor in terms of blood? Or are they just people that were always in Middle earth?
I believe they are from somewhere else, they are not numernoran some of them probably married people from families of Gondor but their primary blood would be from the north closer to the shire which i why believe they know of the hobbits but came to Rohan after they helped Gondor and were give the lands of Rohan as a reward and to for a pact of eternal and perpetual alliance. Close allies and kingdoms but not from the same bloodlines, but they do intermingle a bit as time passes. If that makes sense to you.
@@juancarlosreyes5138 Ah, Ok. I thought they were from the north as in the Laketown region but that makes sense. Driven south by the witch king wars maybe?
@@mightymulatto3000 I understood the story to be that they saw a great army coming to threaten Gondor and Eorl got a messenger asking for aid from the Steward Cirion. He knew Gondor falling would be catastrophic and went to help. After the battle was won, Cirion knowing Gondor strength was fading and his forces were stretched thin and Eorl people needed space and fields, hey having an ally kingdom with strong ties would be helpful and we can strengthen our borders and retreat a bit without conceding territory to our enemies. It was a smart move by the Cirion to offer the land to Eorl and his people for helping, a good place for Eorl to strengthen his people and establish a kingdom.
@@juancarlosreyes5138 I recall them coming from the "north" but unsure if it was east or west of the Misty mountains.
Seems it was a place called Rhovanion. So I think they were originally from the Lake Town Mirkwood area.
Um, there's a few things in the background that are not quite right.
While Tolkien was indeed inspired by both the Prose Edda and the Poetic Edda, and was hugely influenced by Béowulf, we should not make the mistake of collecting them as the same type of thing.
The Edda were from Iceland, and constitute a record of the rich mythology of the Norse folk. Tolkien viewed them with envious eyes, for we Anglo-Saxons had had our oral tradition virtually destroyed by the Normans. Consequently, Béowulf is the *only* surviving Anglo-Saxon mythology.
Tolkien based the Rohirrim on the Anglo-Saxons (as best he could). The Rohirrim most assuredly do not have a connection to Norse mythology, except insofar as the two worlds coexisted uneasily and collided often. Tolkien's dwarves owe more to the Norse mythology than do any other of the free peoples of Middle Earth.
Still, due to the kinship of the Saxons and the Northmen, many similarities exist between the two cultures, so some inspiration could reasonably be drawn from one and applied to the other.
He's the example of what a commander and a leader should be. 2nd age "Galadriel" should learn a few things from this man. After all she is only a few thousand years old and definitely has not seen what he had seen.
Uhhhh... you know that part is canon accurate right? Well, Galadriel has seen a lot of stuff: but seeing and learning aren't the same. Galadriel took a long time to become the mature, regal, wise queen we see her as in LotR. The part about her being a bit of an arrogant jerk back in the day is entirely lore accurate. A lot of the rest of the show isn't, but that part is.
Azog brought me here
Theodyn, 'cause he's Yosser Hughes
"Azog sent me "
Which ever king booted the dirty unwashed dunlendings out gets my vote for best 😉
What exactly do you mean by saying 'had no kindred in his mother tongue' immediately after mentioning Beowulf? The last time I checked, Beowulf is an ***Old English*** epic poem. I do believe Professor Tolkien spoke English as his mother tongue.
Yeah, even if modern English is your first language, trying to read Olde English makes you think you're having a stroke. It's very different.
We got Old English, Middle English, Early Modern English and then what we speak now. Lots of changes :) Really interesting topic, as is diachronic linguistics as a whole :)
there is no second e in Eomer, nor is it spelled Eomir - your pronunciation is incorrect - final syllable should rhyme with spur
Why do you always call him E-o-mEEr? Isn't it pronounced E-o-mER/E-o-mAIR?
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Anyone else still depressed about Rings of Power?
I never got into it, so it's not cannon. It's just a colossal waste of money on Hollywood's part.
Their loss, not mine. I will always consider Tolkien's words over some execs.
It's a bad dream as far as I'm concerned
Never seen nor do I plan to, havent looked at any trailers or looked into it at all, so as far as I'm concerned it doesn't exist
First!
But where were you when the west fold fell? Were you the first to run away?