Awesome system. I work as a General Superintendent for a large commercial Drywall and Painting contractor in the upper Midwest . Dollar against Dollar this technique is the best for achieving level 5 smooth finishes. You look at how fast he was able to blast out that ceiling. Now when we do hotels or any other 40,000 sheet job, I have to consider what going to provide the best outcome. Especially now with the new silica rules and the art of finishing be replaced by boxes and electric vacuum sanders, getting a nice level 5 isn’t as easy as it used to be. Talent levels aren’t even close to 26 years ago when the last of the hawk and trowel finishers were in the twilights of their careers. Hands down the best system for today’s finishers.
The guy knows how to jam out a job. I am in the floor care ❤ business 🏭 but if i was a GENERAL CONTRACTOR i would hire this guy within a minnute. Good job dude and thanks for showing us how to do this job. You may not know this but you are helping other local communities glean knowledge by posting this content. For this I give you a 5-star review.
Danny..., You can even roll-on compound, if you don't have the more expensive sprayer, yes, you can roll mud like paint, then skim it...very cool and time saving especially on ceilings. I have several knives just like this 4 footer which is the largest todate by TapeTechPro, and with some practice, anyone can skim like a PRO, even you, as the knife does most of the work. Good luck! MGTOW.
Amazing way to do skim coat!!! I live in New Zealand and i do the same way but I do two coat!! I do the second one very very soft just to fix all the imperfections from the first coat!!!!and I just got my tapetech finishing knife, are amazing tools!!!
Architects ought to be shot for asking for level 5 drywall on a ceiling. Level 4 and flat paint is sufficient. If you want level 5 , pay for a plaster job. Nuff said
@@nothprokernov7028 Don....people dont put flat paint on ceilings in my area....so we have to...this is my 32 year in the trade....residential and commercial
The kid did a shitty job at that. I would almost guarantee the ceiling will look like shit if he doesn´t sand it by hand with light. I thought the same thing, plaster is the best if you want the whole ceiling skim coated. A level 4 finish done by hawk and trowel with a good painter will beat level 5 all day long.
Bruno, I just finished 1300 sq. Cement ceiling with electric heat. The cement sucked the water out so stinking fast. Spraying the ceiling with water did not even help. Doing it your way. It would be bone dry when you went running the blade on it. You had to do a very small section at a time. My mud was wet and it dried almost on contact. Really need that blade you were using.
Aí brunera… ficou fera mesmo estou aqui no Texas e precisei fazer o mesmo, com a máquina da graco provavelmente IV ajudou dimais. Outro nível de facilidade. No mais parabéns da gosto de ver profissional fazer a arte
Well this video show just how quick skim can be.... but have you look closer? Celling was already strait, new coat wasn't even on the corners.... so I'm wonder how long it was take to prep that to that level.
michal skraburski you can’t see from images,but ceilings only had cadex applied to them, and yes, it took less than 5 min to apply cadex since there’s no wiping.
Guys, I’m a General Superintendent for a fairly large Drywall and Painting Contractor in the upper Midwest of the U.S.A. All we do are commercial projects such as hotels, Assisted living , high end condos, office buildings/corporate campuses,and Multi family( Apartments ). Except for the offices, which are mostly acoustic ceilings, we almost always need to do level 5 finishes on flat ceilings in rooms with so much natural light.Even on textured ceilings we’ve adopted fogging prior to texture as our standard best practice in well lighted areas. I can say without a doubt that this method of skimming on average is 20% faster. When you see the actual billing , hour for hour , between a crew that rolls on there skim vs a crew that uses technique shown it becomes immediately clear. Not to mention, we are always doing the jobs floor by floor working from the top down. When I compare schedules I also see the comparison there. Rolling requires guys 20% more time. 100man Hours vs 80 man hours. Etc
@@TheBigLeeg so your one skim coat over cadex is lvl 5? Idk started finishing when i was 14 iam 44 now and never seen a one coat lvl 5 ceiling finish... Yes prolly quicker because of the sprayer but one is dreams in fairy land. Not to be rude just my opinion
@@TheBigLeeg and one more thing are you the super tells everyone how to do it or the super that actually worked to get that job? Before you answer they i haven't met a super that actually worked for his knowledge in a long time if read you read in a book dosent mean you know how to do it
Tony Locker I’m not a General Superintendent because a got a degree , or I’m somebody’s brother or son and what not. I scratched and clawed my way to the top of the heap. I earned my position via merit. Outstanding performance and results. I’m a journeyman Carpenter by vocation . Which is why I can take a set of prints and specs then apply those to a site. All I’ve ever done is drywall from framing through finish. I started mudding with a hawk and trowel before the industry took up boxes. But clearly you aren’t the type to expand your horizons. I’m the type to tell a guy his work looks like shit or his light check isn’t where he makes a horseshit job look right . Or let a guy get away without pre fill or not tape tight to pipes and outlet blowouts. I’m the guy you would hate or love because before you ever step foot in a unit every single screw better be countersunk and or pulled. The butt joint netter not shoulder etc
You guys ever use that machine to where you don’t have to wipe ? If you put about half water half with half bucket of compound the shit is like paint there’s no wipe . It’s not a true true skim coat but it makes the wall white and looks like a skim coat lol you guys are good and is that Roosevelt island you on ? I was working over there building the new college .
Someone said it looks like midtown Manhattan but it looks more like the George Washington bridge in the background from the Jersey side? Maybe even Chicago, ldk. This brings back memories of working at local 530. We were required to hang one roll of tape per hour. The units averaged about 60 corner bead per unit. Only hand taping allowed. We worked 7 hour days and had to have seven rolls of tape hung by the end of the day. If you complained about the quota to the union, you got fired. Racketeering at its best 🤕
Is always. Nice to see new ideas even if needs detail at the corners and touch up here and there you save lot of time great job don't leasen to the haters i bet they cant even use a two inch knives
If you want a perfect level 5 try spraying, then use a notched trowel to level out the mud perfectly, then a magic trowel or knockdown trowel to smooth it after, they’re really flexible with round edges so you don’t leave any over lapping edges.
If you dont have some one behind you in any weather just means your greedy or lonley... And like to sand. Damn what is with all i can finish anything as long as sand the job 12 times plain crazy
This ceiling would be a great candidate for Sheetrock TuffHIde Level 5 surfacer. Get your ceiling to a solid level 4, then cross-hatch spray the material 18-20 mills thick. Come back the next day for a *very* light sanding and to check for any mishaps and....voila! Beautifully smooth level 5 surface with very little extra labor beyond lev-4 finishing.
Krause Commercial Painting thanks for sharing your experience, I have used hide tuff before and I was happy with results, but spraying joint compound like I do eliminate this last process, those ceilings were only getting 3 coats, on this video is level 2, level 3 I spray the joint and wipe with regular trowel or knife by hand and it looks great, hide tuff I use when client wants level 5 over new Sheetrock with 3 coats and polished, if taping is done good it looks amazing 😉
Texspray Mark 4, 5 and up can spray mud through an airless based spray system. The other texsprays can spray texture but only airless sprayers can pressurize to 3000-3300 PSI which is need to spray compound or Level 5 surfacer out of a paint gun
Yes just thin it properly and use a tip your rig will keep up with. Probably a 621 would work. I’ve put all kinds of stuff thru rigs for 30 years now. Just make sure material isn’t too abrasive. 👍
Gabriela Gonzalez in this case I sprayed joint compound to fix concrete unevenness. But if you have new drywall the tuff hide can be a good option if walls are in a good shape.
Isn't there a product, called "equalizer" or something? It's sprayed on like primer and qualifies as a "level 5 finish"? You seem like you got it figured out, me when approached about a job with skim coat requirement, I say I'm too busy, no time, sorry.
Yes it’s called Level 5 Surfacer-Primer. It works great but it cost $60 a 5 gallon bucket where using compound costs about $10. So the amount you save is used to sand and touch up the walls to perfection. I like mud on ceilings and closets but surfacer on main traffic hallways and bedrooms because the surfacer is tougher and less likely to damage during the remainder of the project
I use prep coat $40 a five and an old speeflo 8900 1225 tip and the standard 1/4 hose. Sands great fills little stuff up fine. Level 5 easy. I’ve never tried thinned out compound. Maybe it would work but I wouldn’t use topping too soft.
Awesome system. I work as a General Superintendent for a large commercial Drywall and Painting contractor in the upper Midwest .
Dollar against Dollar this technique is the best for achieving level 5 smooth finishes. You look at how fast he was able to blast out that ceiling.
Now when we do hotels or any other 40,000 sheet job, I have to consider what going to provide the best outcome. Especially now with the new silica rules and the art of finishing be replaced by boxes and electric vacuum sanders, getting a nice level 5 isn’t as easy as it used to be. Talent levels aren’t even close to 26 years ago when the last of the hawk and trowel finishers were in the twilights of their careers. Hands down the best system for today’s finishers.
Man those screws are magnificently perfect . Smooth work bro .
Mario Ochoa thanks brother
The guy knows how to jam out a job.
I am in the floor care ❤ business 🏭 but if i was a GENERAL CONTRACTOR i would hire this guy within a minnute.
Good job dude and thanks for showing us how to do this job. You may not know this but you are helping other local communities glean knowledge by posting this content. For this I give you a 5-star review.
Samsng Device thanks
Great work! I love your spray technique.
Very impressive. Skim coating is a tough technique to master. Never knew you could spray compound. Great job.
dannywfd thanks Danny, I will be making new videos and will post them soon. 😀👍🏼
Danny..., You can even roll-on compound, if you don't have the more expensive sprayer, yes, you can roll mud like paint, then skim it...very cool and time saving especially on ceilings. I have several knives just like this 4 footer which is the largest todate by TapeTechPro, and with some practice, anyone can skim like a PRO, even you, as the knife does most of the work. Good luck! MGTOW.
Come down to Brazil and teach the guys over here bro!!! Heck... you're one of us! Kkkkkkkkk
Marcelo Gouveia get me the work there and I go, will bring all machines with me. With 20 years of drywall experience there is a lot I can share. 😊
Thank you for the great video.
Nice job! I like your drywall knife holder!
Y D thanks 😊
Man thats a nice job! Use the whole pole and your arm length though. It helps with the consistency.
Brian Keyes yes, great tapetech tool, highly recommended!
Skilled hard working man. Great to see. Ty!!!
Mark Benson thanks Mark. 😀
@@brunogodinho6326 I'm a contractor who loves to learn from other skilled Craftsman. Ty!!!
Mark Benson UA-cam became a great tool for me to learn, that’s the reason I started sharing content as well. Stay safe brother 🙏🏻
@@brunogodinho6326 very nice!!!
Nice headlamp. Im going to get one of those
Hahaha
Massa mano!!
Ótimo trabalho 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
tarcisio henrique obrigado
Amazing way to do skim coat!!! I live in New Zealand and i do the same way but I do two coat!! I do the second one very very soft just to fix all the imperfections from the first coat!!!!and I just got my tapetech finishing knife, are amazing tools!!!
All the one and 2 coats jobs are people that plan on a slow miserable death from sanding more then coating...
I love the hardhat!
I bought skully hat with lights Amazon kind bright.
how thin do you mix the mud and what size of tip do you use?
I'm assuming you removed all the filters in both gun and unit? What size tip are you using?
Gary Spaulding yes, no need for filters when working with compound, used tip size 531.
@@brunogodinho6326 thanks
Architects ought to be shot for asking for level 5 drywall on a ceiling. Level 4 and flat paint is sufficient. If you want level 5 , pay for a plaster job. Nuff said
Don Ireland I agree 100%
@@nothprokernov7028 Don....people dont put flat paint on ceilings in my area....so we have to...this is my 32 year in the trade....residential and commercial
Texture is for poor people!!!!
Lv 4 or slate finish work good and pretty close to a smooth wall
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The kid did a shitty job at that. I would almost guarantee the ceiling will look like shit if he doesn´t sand it by hand with light. I thought the same thing, plaster is the best if you want the whole ceiling skim coated. A level 4 finish done by hawk and trowel with a good painter will beat level 5 all day long.
Bruno, I just finished 1300 sq. Cement ceiling with electric heat. The cement sucked the water out so stinking fast. Spraying the ceiling with water did not even help. Doing it your way. It would be bone dry when you went running the blade on it. You had to do a very small section at a time. My mud was wet and it dried almost on contact. Really need that blade you were using.
Nice view outside the window :)
this guy is a genius
What size sprayer tip are you using and what brand mud?
What size of tip you are using?
And do you leave all filters in the machine /gun? Thank you..
Commercial job in Jersey? Perfect!
Aí brunera… ficou fera mesmo estou aqui no Texas e precisei fazer o mesmo, com a máquina da graco provavelmente IV ajudou dimais. Outro nível de facilidade. No mais parabéns da gosto de ver profissional fazer a arte
Which graco is that one? Tex spray or regular?
how is called the "belt" that you put youre amall knife in
Parabens jovem!
Graco Mark V is about a $10,000 machine but a huge time saver, money maker and a lot less psychically demanding than a Hawk / Trowel approach.
where did you buy the trowel?
you should come to Ottawa and I will will teach you how to do it the right way
Well this video show just how quick skim can be.... but have you look closer? Celling was already strait, new coat wasn't even on the corners.... so I'm wonder how long it was take to prep that to that level.
michal skraburski you can’t see from images,but ceilings only had cadex applied to them, and yes, it took less than 5 min to apply cadex since there’s no wiping.
Guys,
I’m a General Superintendent for a fairly large Drywall and Painting Contractor in the upper Midwest of the U.S.A. All we do are commercial projects such as hotels, Assisted living , high end condos, office buildings/corporate campuses,and Multi family( Apartments ). Except for the offices, which are mostly acoustic ceilings, we almost always need to do level 5 finishes on flat ceilings in rooms with so much natural light.Even on textured ceilings we’ve adopted fogging prior to texture as our standard best practice in well lighted areas. I can say without a doubt that this method of skimming on average is 20% faster. When you see the actual billing , hour for hour , between a crew that rolls on there skim vs a crew that uses technique shown it becomes immediately clear. Not to mention, we are always doing the jobs floor by floor working from the top down. When I compare schedules I also see the comparison there. Rolling requires guys 20% more time. 100man Hours vs 80 man hours. Etc
@@TheBigLeeg so your one skim coat over cadex is lvl 5? Idk started finishing when i was 14 iam 44 now and never seen a one coat lvl 5 ceiling finish... Yes prolly quicker because of the sprayer but one is dreams in fairy land. Not to be rude just my opinion
@@TheBigLeeg and one more thing are you the super tells everyone how to do it or the super that actually worked to get that job? Before you answer they i haven't met a super that actually worked for his knowledge in a long time if read you read in a book dosent mean you know how to do it
Tony Locker I’m not a General Superintendent because a got a degree , or I’m somebody’s brother or son and what not. I scratched and clawed my way to the top of the heap. I earned my position via merit. Outstanding performance and results. I’m a journeyman Carpenter by vocation . Which is why I can take a set of prints and specs then apply those to a site. All I’ve ever done is drywall from framing through finish. I started mudding with a hawk and trowel before the industry took up boxes. But clearly you aren’t the type to expand your horizons. I’m the type to tell a guy his work looks like shit or his light check isn’t where he makes a horseshit job look right . Or let a guy get away without pre fill or not tape tight to pipes and outlet blowouts. I’m the guy you would hate or love because before you ever step foot in a unit every single screw better be countersunk and or pulled. The butt joint netter not shoulder etc
This the level of caliber that can spot screws by walking along a wall on a five gallon bucket
I roll my finish with 3/8 inch nap instead of using my blade....i like the blade though....very nice brother
You roll it then trowel it flat?
Thank you. I'm have mark 5. Am is Russia
Stay the f*** out of Crimea
@@grizzly8859 shut the f****** up
Sweet head light!
Mack Woodcock thanks
Yea, where did you get it?
.... amazing ..................
What’s the tip size do you use to spray the compound or level 5 walls?
That’s what I want to know. Maybe a 617?
621
Nice job, done quickly - can't ask for more than that!
AK Drywall Guy thanks! 😀
Buen trabajo saludos desde miami
Alien Ayala Del Sol gracias amigo 👍🏼
Sweet video, looks like a great job.
Pretty much no mess either. Beats a 18 inch roller, and stilts. Lol
tyler krug Thanks! 👍🏼
How much water or additive do you have to add to be able to spray compound threw a sprayer
The Mark V can spray mud right out of the box.. thin only for the application you are doing at the time.
You take off filters on machine and sprayer
Nice job
Adrian Posteuca thanks brother
I don't get it. Why spray it on to take most of it of again? Why not just plaster it properly and still use the spat?
Please tell me what you used to spray the mud on with?
Graco mark v
Ta chingon mahe ¡¡
Awesome We paint the similar room min 1hour )
Alex Melnich 👍🏼
👌 🙌
You guys ever use that machine to where you don’t have to wipe ?
If you put about half water half with half bucket of compound the shit is like paint there’s no wipe . It’s not a true true skim coat but it makes the wall white and looks like a skim coat lol you guys are good and is that Roosevelt island you on ? I was working over there building the new college .
Sprayer sounds like the piston is gna blow out of it lol its workin extra hard
Rick White yep, it’s pulling compound, not paint 🤓
@@brunogodinho6326 how does that work you gta thin the shit out of it ? Hows quality of the finish ?
Good job, can you make video working on walls?
LAL 2037275114, I have more videos working on walls as well.
❤excelente 😊
Good idea
No esta mal la idea yo lo usaria solo para skimear ya que en el skin no le dejas mucha maza
Nice job.
Emeka Nkeze thanks
I'd want to see what it looks like once it has dried.
Wet mud ALWAYS looks good... lol
Someone said it looks like midtown Manhattan but it looks more like the George Washington bridge in the background from the Jersey side? Maybe even Chicago, ldk. This brings back memories of working at local 530. We were required to hang one roll of tape per hour. The units averaged about 60 corner bead per unit. Only hand taping allowed. We worked 7 hour days and had to have seven rolls of tape hung by the end of the day. If you complained about the quota to the union, you got fired. Racketeering at its best 🤕
Robert Stovall that’s manhattan bridge in background
@@joeyi_e1553 definitely NOT the Manhattan bridge
Muito bom!
Looks like one of those million dollar condos on the upper east side of Manhattan
Looks like someone in the country illegally?
I worked midtown Manhattan for many years. Definitely not Manhattan. Maybe Jersey, maybe Chicago?
Is always. Nice to see new ideas even if needs detail at the corners and touch up here and there you save lot of time great job don't leasen to the haters i bet they cant even use a two inch knives
Anyone know how much to thin mud to spray with a grace 795?
Brett Weigel you should use graco IV,V or X in order to spray compound . Good luck 👍🏼
looks like you are in New York?
modernwize Brooklyn
Isso é em Manhattan? Moro em Newark também trabalho com isso, há 4 anos já
Diego Carmona Brooklyn, onde vc esta trabalhando?
If you want a perfect level 5 try spraying, then use a notched trowel to level out the mud perfectly, then a magic trowel or knockdown trowel to smooth it after, they’re really flexible with round edges so you don’t leave any over lapping edges.
Terrible idea!
Omg god finally some one that sounds like there good at what they do ... Bout time 👍
@@TOMVUTHEPIMP ya maybe for someone that doesn't know how to do it!
where did you purchase the 24" knife?
Ames tools
Waoo so fast and good job
I never seen folks spray Mudd most folks use Roller. Two blades and a helper keep blade clean faster less bending.
Buenas ideas, pero no me termino de conbencer, le falta en la rociada para que le quede bien parejo
Paintingcolors Andremodeling
Y las luces y ventilación por eso después van a ser hoyos para La Luz not good
Good idea for stomping ceiling! That might make a come back LOL
Only if take time to mask everything i mean everything off. Unless you the type that likes to sand...
LUNCH TIME. TEEEEEEEEWIIIIIIT
what brand of compound do you use
RobertRC NYC continental, purple lid, they are really good for working with automatic tools
Maneiro
thales obrigado
Looks good on new drywall but bet it won't work when changing textures
Yeah I would roll on a thick coat and smooth off
Multiple coats is what I've found. When you're hiding priors, it takes a couple adjustments.
Here in Florida you would need a guy working the blade behind you because the mud would dry that fast
It doesn't matter where you're from it is about how much water your mud and drying time is, lol... Thats the silliest comment Ive ever seen.
If you dont have some one behind you in any weather just means your greedy or lonley... And like to sand. Damn what is with all i can finish anything as long as sand the job 12 times plain crazy
@Blake Ranew just get the light weight id you slick with less crackage... Of course the soap does add a pleasant aroma while you work!
@@cptmuska lol some people cant see the whole picture lol
Do a paint sprayer works with drywall mud?
Mikecard Yeah no, only graco IV and above.
@@brunogodinho6326 what do you do ,what tip and so forth do you need another pump I have g max 2
This ceiling would be a great candidate for Sheetrock TuffHIde Level 5 surfacer. Get your ceiling to a solid level 4, then cross-hatch spray the material 18-20 mills thick. Come back the next day for a *very* light sanding and to check for any mishaps and....voila! Beautifully smooth level 5 surface with very little extra labor beyond lev-4 finishing.
Krause Commercial Painting thanks for sharing your experience, I have used hide tuff before and I was happy with results, but spraying joint compound like I do eliminate this last process, those ceilings were only getting 3 coats, on this video is level 2, level 3 I spray the joint and wipe with regular trowel or knife by hand and it looks great, hide tuff I use when client wants level 5 over new Sheetrock with 3 coats and polished, if taping is done good it looks amazing 😉
@@brunogodinho6326 Hi, what sprayer and tip are you using for the Light mud joing compound.. Thanks a million...
@@joesanchez7920 mark V with 535 tip
I got a gracco ultramax 695 2 ....can i spray compound also?
No
No
Texspray Mark 4, 5 and up can spray mud through an airless based spray system. The other texsprays can spray texture but only airless sprayers can pressurize to 3000-3300 PSI which is need to spray compound or Level 5 surfacer out of a paint gun
Yes just thin it properly and use a tip your rig will keep up with. Probably a 621 would work. I’ve put all kinds of stuff thru rigs for 30 years now. Just make sure material isn’t too abrasive. 👍
Chido.
Anyone realize the sheet rocked the circus lights into the wall?
@Ruben Rosario lol, guess they're just gonna have to be cut out. Stupid!
Is this primer you're spraying?
Kilo117 joint compound
Water down joint compound
?
Hello. I am from Algeria. I want to know how many cubic meters can this be The machine worked in 8 hours
100-800
No pude ver esta terminación clara para darte el merito
Joint compound
What LED lights are you using?
good info in the video. thumbs down for vertical video.
That technique is old in AZ Only for level 3 or 4 but not for level 5 😂
Are you spraying All Purpose? What about Tuff Hide?
Gabriela Gonzalez in this case I sprayed joint compound to fix concrete unevenness. But if you have new drywall the tuff hide can be a good option if walls are in a good shape.
@@brunogodinho6326 Thank you! :)
Me distes una idea para poder terminar mas rapido
Wouldn't a couple of spotlights illuminating the ceiling show missed spots.
Can you short the video so l don't have to skip.
Nice
He isnt wearing a SHERWIN WILLIAMS shirt. 👕
Samsng Device 😂
He's wearing a TRUMP shirt. He LOVES Trump!!!1
Donde puedo conseguir esa plancha para empastar soy de peru alguna ayuda por favor
En Amazon.com "tapetech smoothing blade"
all- wall equitment@@magocybernetico
Edgardo Cabrera Garcia hacen ese tipo de trabajo en peru tambien?
good video,thx for sharing.
just wondering how to do the sanding?
Adam Guo all you have to do is a light polish and it is done. 👍🏼
THX for replying. 220 grid sanding pad and sanding by hand?
Festool Planex
HI，have you ever tried to sand level 5 with planex？
that's is fast.
A ka ka ka ka kasku ¿? 😀
Lots of compliments without even seeing a closeup of the final product.
有賣嗎
More vids???
Duston scharbrough yes
Brooklyn.... 💪🏾
Isn't there a product, called "equalizer" or something? It's sprayed on like primer and qualifies as a "level 5 finish"?
You seem like you got it figured out, me when approached about a job with skim coat requirement, I say I'm too busy, no time, sorry.
张伟dfyre contact me at icontracticting@icloud.com I will help you with your skim coat solution 👍🏼
Yes it’s called Level 5 Surfacer-Primer. It works great but it cost $60 a 5 gallon bucket where using compound costs about $10. So the amount you save is used to sand and touch up the walls to perfection. I like mud on ceilings and closets but surfacer on main traffic hallways and bedrooms because the surfacer is tougher and less likely to damage during the remainder of the project
I use prep coat $40 a five and an old speeflo 8900 1225 tip and the standard 1/4 hose. Sands great fills little stuff up fine. Level 5 easy. I’ve never tried thinned out compound. Maybe it would work but I wouldn’t use topping too soft.
Como q le iso falta una rociada.... se nota q hubo partes q no cubrio bien
Hay perro eres un chingon pero te falta tu protección personal