Dr. McDougall is the BOMB!! Cut out that meat, dairy and processed foods if you want optimal health well into your old age! Look at our parents generation, no way in hell I'm going to go out like that. VEGAN FTW!!!
You're one of the few straight thinking people I know. I spend too much time trying to debunk carnivore and paleo-logic on their channels, and it can be tiring... Time to do a workout
@@youtubeuser7798 He isn't on steroids dude, he is a natty, just like e.g. Shawn Baker. Many omnivores have nutrient deficiencies, which has been shown in a lot of studies. What do u mean with 'unnatural'? If a species doesn't feel hunger when encountering a corpse, it's unnatural that the species eats it. What do you mean?
I really like mcdougall, and I like how he points out traditional soy products are okay, because they have been proven so for millenniums. Second time watching this little short, old but still valid. I think two ounces is obviously on the lower end of what is acceptable (Gregor shows actual evidence of 3-5 servings seemingly acceptably healthy), but I like the message.
I entirely agree. over 30 years ago, when I became vegetarian, the number of fake meat products on the market was really limited. Transition from a Standard American Diet to vegetarian reqired learning how to prepare meals using traditional soy products like Tofu, Tempeh and Miso. I never regretted learning how to use these products, but found that to much soy did cause digetive problems. Backing off soy quickly began to resolve matters. I began to find a kind of balance while made things better quickly. After some thinking about the issue I conclused that, because North Americans eat so much meat, meals tend to be centred on it. When moving to a vegetarian diet, one tends to naturally consider the source of protein as being of primary importance. This leads to making meals with a huge chunk of tofu or tempeh at the centre of the plate where the meat once was. It is hard a first to move away from this kind of thinking. In truth, I eventually learned that all plant food contains protein. However virtually none of this has all the essential amino acids to be classified as complete protein. By eating a wide variety of foods the required amino acids are then combined in the body to make complete protein. Soy is rich in amino acids, so can - if eaten in small amounts contribute to the protein profile. When I became vegetarian I was taught that it was important to get all the essential amino acids at the same time. This I was told should be done by eating nuts, seeds, grains and beans in the same meal, or at least within a few hours of each other. These foods each contained some of the 9 essential amino acids needed to make complete protein. However, many years later, I learned that this way of food combining is not required and is based on a long standing myth. Last year I became a vegan. When I did I saw some wonderful videos by various doctors and nutritionists debunking myths about food combiing and protein. From those videos i learned that the body grabs and stores amino acids in tissue ad hock. This means that foods containing various amino acids can be eaten a differnet times and do not have to be combined in the same meal. The value of knowing this is that it makes meal planning simpler. One does not have to stress out about getting all the essential amino acids for complete protein in a single meal. It also means you don't have to be as concerned about the source of those amino acids. Once you understand that incomplete protein is present in all plant food you can relax and enjoy your meal. Once you understand that the old rules about food combining are more myth than real, it's easier to eat as you please instead of thinking of each meal like a science experiment. For me the most liberating part of all this was getting my head out of meat based thinking. Once you understand that you do not need a big chunk of protein at the centre of your plate, either from animal or plant sources - everything changes.
That's awesome. I eat some soy products. I got off the vegan cheese though, I replaced that with nutritional yeast. As a newbie, only vegan for 16 months I am still learning and am realizing there is alot of vegan junk food out there. I do the mean green juice still fro the film "fat, sick and nearly dead"
I entirely agree. over 30 years ago, when I became vegetarian, the number of fake meat products on the market was really limited. Transition from a Standard American Diet to vegetarian reqired learning how to prepare meals using traditional soy products like Tofu, Tempeh and Miso. I never regretted learning how to use these products, but found that to much soy did cause digetive problems. Backing off soy quickly began to resolve matters. I began to find a kind of balance while made things better quickly. After some thinking about the issue I conclused that, because North Americans eat so much meat, meals tend to be centred on it. When moving to a vegetarian diet, one tends to naturally consider the source of protein as being of primary importance. This leads to making meals with a huge chunk of tofu or tempeh at the centre of the plate where the meat once was. It is hard a first to move away from this kind of thinking. In truth, I eventually learned that all plant food contains protein. However virtually none of this has all the essential amino acids to be classified as complete protein. By eating a wide variety of foods the required amino acids are then combined in the body to make complete protein. Soy is rich in amino acids, so can - if eaten in small amounts contribute to the protein profile. When I became vegetarian I was taught that it was important to get all the essential amino acids at the same time. This I was told should be done by eating nuts, seeds, grains and beans in the same meal, or at least within a few hours of each other. These foods each contained some of the 9 essential amino acids needed to make complete protein. However, many years later, I learned that this way of food combining is not required and is based on a long standing myth. Last year I became a vegan. When I did I saw some wonderful videos by various doctors and nutritionists debunking myths about food combiing and protein. From those videos i learned that the body grabs and stores amino acids in tissue ad hock. This means that foods containing various amino acids can be eaten a differnet times and do not have to be combined in the same meal. The value of knowing this is that it makes meal planning simpler. One does not have to stress out about getting all the essential amino acids for complete protein in a single meal. It also means you don't have to be as concerned about the source of those amino acids. Once you understand that incomplete protein is present in all plant food you can relax and enjoy your meal. Once you understand that the old rules about food combining are more myth than real, it's easier to eat as you please instead of thinking of each meal like a science experiment. For me the most liberating part of all this was getting my head out of meat based thinking. Once you understand that you do not need a big chunk of protein at the centre of your plate, either from animal or plant sources - everything changes.
Marvin Double The trick to becoming a vegetarian or vegan is to do it SLOWLY. When people dive head first into veganism they usually dive into the fake meat section of the grocery store. There was an episode of Oprah where a bunch of her staff went vegan for a week. They had this vegan lady take one of the staff members and their family shopping. The first place she took them was the fake meat section! She should have gone for the starches, veggies, and fruits. If you do things nice and slow you wont need those fake substitute products. I found that as I improved my diet my craving for animal products went down. So when I decided to give up animal products temporarily; it was easy to do. I haven't been craving animal products at all lately. So I don't feel the need to buy fake meat.
+A A Protein deficiency is a thing; it's called Kwashiorkor. However it's rare among people who get enough calories. In the US kwashiorkor is rare. So there is really no good reason to worry about protein. If anyone has any concerns just eat more beans and sprinkle some hemp seeds on your oat meal.
Trans Feminist Autism I agree entirely. there are lots of ways to get adequate protein on a totally vegan diet. As you noted hemp seeds are excellent, as are many other nuts and seeds. However as you also noted, it is important also to get enough calories. Because there is some protein in everything one needs to consume enough food to get the necessary amino acids for the body to build total protein. People who eat just meat may well getting way more protein than is needed to maintain good health. However, if their diet is heavy in meat, they may not be getting all the essential vitamins, minerals and trace minerals they need. Even meat eaters need to eat a broad diet which includes lots of fruit and veggies.
Marvin Double I still focus on eating mostly beans with dark leafy greens and root veggies but I do agree with you about not worrying about protein so damn much like people seem to do in the West still. I start out my day with my first meal of oats with fruit and maybe a glass of soy milk and I feel better than I ever did eating bacon and eggs - no more indigestion and better long term energy. then I focus on more protein heavy foods for lunch and dinner like beans and lentils. I exercise so I do like to just have a bit more protein with my starches and I think it helps my body recover better honestly. but yeah like you said, people worry way too much about protein and I think when they first try transitioning from a diet with meat to a diet with no meat while focusing too much on protein that kind of screw themselves over and end up going back to what they used to eat.
let's face reality: while it is ideal to eat as close to a whole food plant based diet as possible even including some traditional soy foods, it is a nice first transitional step for people to have access to veggie\soy burgers or other mock meat products. it really helped me out while I was still trying to learn to enjoy more plants and then the more I started enjoying a bowl of lentils and kale with steamed carrots or something for instance, the less I cared about the mock meat products. i don't get the highly processed soy isolate and egg veggie burgers anymore but I do instead get from time to time veggie burgers that are made out of minimally processed plant foods like burger patties made from quinoa, bulgur wheat, black beans or something like that (no eggs now) but those other ones were a really good helpful stepping stone. but that's just my experience with it.
Very well said. Besides that, there's no harm in having some processed faux meats (soy protein isolates) from time to time, they're high in protein and fiber usually, and frankly speaking, are way healthier than most things people eat nowadays. One shouldn't be so quick to denounce certain foods, especially given the diets people have nowadays.
Asian people have been traditionally eating natural soy foods every day, apparently 2-3 servings a day, varying in food choice from country to country. And they were just fine, fit and healthy martial artists all along. The bad rep soy foods get is highly speculative and theoretical, making lousy mistakes like confusing PHYTOestrogen with actual oestrogen found in dairy and meat. The medical data however proves soy foods as very healthy. Containing many micronutrients like flavenoids and phytochemicals. Known to us scientists as health promoting foods that slim you down and improve cognitive functions.
agreed. i think it's all the processed soy meats that are giving soy a bad name...but they are still way better than eating real meat, and i think the bad reputation is not warranted. people will promote eating actual dead bodies over a burger made from soybeans or think that dairy is less harmful than soy...no way it is. Not even close.
I have searched for a long time for a diet that makes sense and that is palatable. Dr. McDougall has hit it on the head for me. I am glad to know that he says we can leave out soy products. I don't like soy and especially tofu. I am especially concerned about most soy beans in the USA are genetically modified. I watch Dr. McDougall and his wife on their cooking shows and every one of them seem that they would be very edible and also the dishes she cooks are easy to make with ingredients that are readily available (no 70 mile round trip to our nearest health food store). Keep up the good work. In another video I saw where the Doc does not claim to be a vegetarian because once every 2 years he and his wife cook and eat a small portion of turkey on Thanksgiving. I lke that! So many cheat on Thanksgivings and Christmas and cook up the ole turkey, and then they tell people, "I am a vegetarian." Well, no, you're not. Anyway, to me Dr. McDougall's advice on diet is the most down-to-earth, both healthy and palatable diet I have found to date. GO DR. McDOUGALL!!!
You definitely do not need to consume soy in order to be vegetarian. If you don't like it, don't eat it. I do like tofu now. The secret lies in marinating it for a long time for it to have the flavor sink in.
***** Nonsense. You can't buy GMO versions of those foods! And you most definitely cannot simply go out and buy GMO versions of the seed to grow it! They are licensed and their sale used for biofuel and animal feed. So much hype and so little facts...
***** If you knew what you were talking about you would know that the Senators here in the United States struck down an amendment that would allow states to regulate the labeling of GMO foods. The amendment, as part of the massive, wide-ranging Farm Bill, was overwhelmingly rejected by Senators on Thursday in a 71-27 vote, would have supported and clarified the existing rights of states to enact their own laws requiring the labeling of genetically engineered foods. But NONE of that matters. TRY to buy GMO products. Try it! They are restricted! Both the seed and the final product! The available market is NOT in the 'standard food chain' as you fantasize! Oh, I know folks like you will run about claiming GMOs are everywhere, but TRY to buy the seed to plant! TRY IT! It is a complex process for farmers to even get a license to use it! And after all is said and done, GMOs are like gluten, the lowest source of concern in the larger issue of an optimally healthy complete balanced whole food plant based low sugar low fat diet. Stop the anecdotal BS and find out the facts.
***** Can you read for meaning???? One wonders what use a label would be if you cannot fathom the FACT that the Congress JUST LAST WEEK overrode each state's ability to require their identification and labeling of GMOs!!!!
***** Dumbfk, GMOs have NOT proven to be a problem from a scientific POV if you would bother to actually read the scientific studies - as McDougall has stated and which are summariezed at Nutritionfacts.org. So YOU are the only one running about like Chicken Little. But YOUR admonition to check the labeling has ALSO been torpedoed as Congress has just STOPPED any state efforts to HAVE them labeled! DUH! In other words, even if idiots like yourself demand it, federal law has just said that the states CANNOT require labeling. So, you stupid fkwad, YOU are the only one worried about their labeling or identification and YOU are the only one who thinks that they are common in the food system. Now shutup, as you have REPEATEDLY misinterpreted everything that has been said by EVERYONE
What part of "complete balanced Whole plant based low sugar low fat no meat, eggs, dairy or oil" is complicated? C. Esselstyn, T. Colin Campbell, and J McDougall, as well as M. Greger's research summaries at at NutritionFactsdotorg are the standards for reference.
What about soy milk - organic and non GMO from Costco. I'm wondering if that's highly processed. I like to use it in a baked oatmeal recipe. I could also use rice milk but already have a ton of the soy milk. Any thoughts, anyone?
So the isolated soy protein used to make fake soy meats is not good. What's the advice on isolated wheat protein (gluten) to make seitan - is that bad also?
most likely , anything over processed like gluten itself would be hard for the body to absorb , but gluten is not bad in fact our stomach bacteria thrive off it , dont be afraid to eat bread with gluten! At the end of the day stick to whole plant based foods .. anything after that is questionable
Exactly what I was hoping he would say! This will be a gamr changer for me. Today was my first day on a starch based diet, and I actually feel like I did okay. Gonna give it my all for a couple of weeks and then evaluate how I feel, and then most likely will jump in with both feet.
That was before genetic modification came in. Now soy is pointless to eat because of the incredibly high percentage of GMO. What makes soy so special that another legume cannot be used in its place? Why can't tofu, tempeh and other traditional soy products be made with another legume? Why risk eating GMO when there are other crops that have significantly less chance of being GMO?
I respectfully disagree. It's true that RGBH is damaging. But soy is too. We don't have to choose between drinking adulterated cow's milk and consuming soy products. A third choice is to drink raw, unpasteurized, organic, unadulterated milk from cows and goats, which are not high in the hormones you're talking about. Raw organic cows' and goats' milk was consumed for centuries without harm; since soy was added to the human diet, we've been seeing accelerated maturity in girls. Soy is harmful.
Veganism has never almost killed anyone. In fact, if you google Gerson you'll see that veganism has saved people from sudden death and cancer. However, if you chose to eat a vegan junk food diet then your lifestyle and eating was no better then an omnivore and, in that case, you would have been sickly. I see more vegans eating a diet of mock this or mock that and they miss all of the beneficial veggies and fruit. I suspect you did too.
First, I only used Mimi as an example. Second, Mimi hasn't been vegan as long as I have. She is a baby vegan in every sense of the word but still looks amazing. The 111 year old man does still eat soy. It's all a personal choice. I think it's wrong to demonize a food product if you don't have a legitimate reason. You don't. You only have the bad information and lies spread by Kayla and Sally with no research to support their claims.
Great. Take a look at Sally Fallon. Is that how you want to look? Now look up Mimi Kirk on youtube. Which one looks better? I'll give you a hint. Mimi older then Sally. Better still. look up Jay Kordich. He's 89. Yes, i wish he exercised more but he's the healthiest 89 year old I know. Then there's the oldest man in the U.S. He's vegan you know. Yes, 111 years old. Find his story on youtube.
You health may be regained temporarily but your overall health will decline rapidly over the next ten years or more and you will see your face and body age rapidly thanks to the high protein, high fat, high cholesterol diet that Weston Price preaches. Anyone who does their research knows that Weston Price, the Dentist, advocated a vegetarian diet and he wouldn't be happy with Sally Fallon right now.
What about soy products you find in stores WITHOUT dairy and/or eggs in it, which I don't buy anyways. Like Boca Burgers? There are SO many veggie burgers on the market these days amongst "many" other things. I'm sure they are not all bad for us right? I read the ingredients and don't buy any soy products that have anything to do with animal products. Any recommendation on which soy products to buy like that? I buy soy products strictly to avoid animal products all together. Thanks
Soy isn't much of a health food because it's far too high in fat, but it's certainly not going to seriously damage your health the same way meat and dairy will. However if what you're looking for is the optimal, ideal diet for humans, soy and other nuts and seeds wouldn't be included. Still okay in moderation.
And yes, most soy is GMO. But you actually hardly ever have to worry about that if you're vegan. Most of the GM soy is fed to "livestock" animals. At least 90% of soy products that are marketed to vegans (soymilk, tofu, tempeh, mock meats) are actually organic because the companies know that vegans tend to be more health conscious and likely to avoid GMOs.
Coffee does not affect me, I drink 'religiously' three quarts a day, but I am vegan eating no animal products after years of being a heavy meat and dairy consumer, also loads of processed junk. Feel like I have reborn Super Man....
the truth hurts. new vegan will have no more soy unless organic. i love veggie burgers--low cal and not dripping with fat, cholesterol and blood like traditional american hamburgers! anyone have a recipe for a homemade safe veggie burger? thx
Oh no ... I do not use any soy products aside from soy ice-cream ... sigh ... but this is the UK so they would not be genetically modified ... so no Tofutti or Swedish Glace? I will bear up as best I can ...
So where does one find soy that hasn't been genetically modified (GMO) or RoundUp ready soy? I don't like eating foods soaked in RoundUp pesticides. It gets incorporated into the soy and can't be washed off.
These quick, flip shots... So I don't need to eat soy. What if I need the protein from beans and I have CKD and soy beans are the only ones that don't have menacing potassium levels? Smile that ingratiating smile at me again and tell me I don't need to eat soy. This is UA-cam at its worst.
He forgot to mention to avoid GMO soy. But yeah, he's right. We use a little tofu, make our own soymilk (no carageenan or other additives), use non-GMO miso, but we actually don't use that much soy. I don't miss the fake meats.
Soy is probably healthier but your going to be more feminine. I’ve noticed a correlation of health to body frame. I’ve noticed that populations with smaller frames are on average healthier than populations with larger frames. For examples the Asians are one of the healthiest people but short and skinny in stature. While a lot of big tall White and Black people in America are shit when it comes to health but big.
Thank God, cos that fake veggie remakes are NASTY! The Barley, Mushroom, and Potatoe Burger is a much better alternative to those patties sold in the sto. Lookup Barley Burger on youtube.
I think that the myths about soy being harmful are most likely something the dairy industry came up with about the time soymilk became a competitor to dairy milk.
***** Unsweetened is OK - if you NEED it.....sweetened is candy Avoid the heavily processed TVP - texturized vegetable protein - stuff typically used in the meat substitute nonsense
+CNA sweetpeas Soy milk is completely fine and healthy. Try to find a brand with minimal ingredients - just soy beans and water. Soy milk is one of the traditional soy foods. If you want it sweeter you can add a little sugar to make it palatable.
Christina M it's often best to read the ingredient list, on the cover it might say Soy Milk, but I threw out a carton that was actually soy protein isolate and maltodextrin in it. I went and purchased a more credible soy milk without those ingredients.
Soy has 1000x more phytoestrogens then ANY other food on the planet, next being Flax which is very high as well but Soy is just ridiculously high, its not discriminated against for no reason, and almost all of soy is GMO.
A phytoestrogen does not have the same effects in the body that real estrogen has. Phytoestrogens protect you from the damaging effects of real estrogens. If you want to avoid real estrogen, then don't eat meat or dairy products. And no one has to eat soy, there are countless ways to get plant proteins. If you eat soy, then get organic and minimally processed.
I've studied nutrition, and was unanimously lead to believe that only fermented soy was digestable. That GMO soy is not fit for human consumption, it's altered so that it can be sprayed with roundup,it's roundup resistant, it's also modified for animal feed, with antibiotics and hormones. That the isolates are waste products and toxic. I've enjoyed eating steamed soy beans, and I used to drink soy milk, I'm open minded. I used to eat tofu, hmmmmm
unfortunately, the mock meat game has stepped up like 10 levels in the past couple of years. It tastes so, so good. I eat way too much of it and need to wean myself off of it. But they are great for people transitioning to veganism because they are really convincing and still better than eating a rotting a body part, even if they're "unhealthy."
talking about soy shit product, i once saw fake meat made of soy for Chinese monk. ironic isn't it? they are supposed to be vegetarian but they want to eat meat.
Hi rawmark, there are always exceptions. I agree that Mimi Kirk looks wonderful. I don't mean any disrespect toward Jay Kordich, he seems to be a nice man, but he doesn't look younger than his age. He looks about as young/ healthy as my dad was at that age. I certainly agree with him that drinking lots of raw veggie juices is good for your health and longevity, and I expect it's doing him a lot of good. Raw juices are great, but are best when added to a paleo diet with animal protein sources.
Thank you for the caution, but that has not been my experience. Since giving up soy and going "paleo plus raw dairy," virtually all of my health problems have vanished. There is no sign of that reversing. My friends who have continued down the road I was on, eating lots of soy and avoiding animal products, are generally sickly and look older than their years. I'm grateful every day that I gave up "high soy" and got back on a healthy diet. Take care my friend and I wish you good health.
Actually Mimi's been a vegan for over 40 years! She stopped eating meat products when she was 30. If you've been a vegan for over 40 years and are in good health, I think that's wonderful, and I sincerely wish you the best of health. Veganism almost killed me in the ten years I was followed it. But if it works for you, and if eating soy, even with all of its toxins, works for you, that's great. Take care my friend and thanks for corresponding on UA-cam.
is soy sauce a traditional soy product? I know ideally he says go low sodium but I've also watched his discussion on salt as a scapegoat, so at this point in my life I feel behooved to include as much sodium as it takes for me to enjoy & to stay high carb. That said, I'm currently living in Thailand so soy sauce is a staple dressing - is it OK to have or no?
Most traditionally made brands of soy sauce are fine. Just check the ingredients label, to make sure it doesn't contain any of the soy protein isolate.
P.S. If you Google Mimi Kirk, you'll find interviews in which she states that she *** does not *** eat any soy. She recommends totally avoiding all soy products. Her protein all comes from greens, hemp seeds, chia seeds and sprouts. She warns on her blog about avoiding soy, and avoiding eating any foods that are "cross contaminiated" with soy from being processed in the same plant. (This is why she recommends avoiding Braggs aminos, for example).
Rawmark, first I want to say I respect your opinion and respect you, and thank you for responding. But I disagree on this question. To relate a personal experience, I ate a great deal of soy for ten years of my life. During those ten years I got very sick. When I quit soy (under protest) and went on a diet similar to Weston-Price, my health was regained almost immediately. Of course some people have different experiences. Take care, and I wish you good health and a good life my friend.
Hi rawmark, on that we agree. I was eating an all organic diet rich in fruits and vegetables. Unfortunately I was also eating soy (in the form of lots of organic tofu and soy milk, which made me sick and tired all the time. As soon as I stopped the soy, and added organic grass-fed meat and raw milk from grass-fed cows to my diet I got healthy again. At this point I'd say we've both made our points and should probably just agree to disagree. Take care, and I wish you good health and long life.
American Academy of Pediatrics Committee on Nutrition (2008) In summary, although studied by numerous investigators in various species, there is no conclusive evidence from animal, adult human, or infant populations that dietary soy isoflavones may adversely affect human development, reproduction, or endocrine function... [A]n increased incidence of feminization in male infants or an increased incidence of hypospadias in high soy-consuming populations have not been observed.
So... is stuff like SOY cheeses worse for us than regular cheese? Should I just stick with normal cheese if I had to make a choice then? Which is worse for our health overall?? Please tell me. I already know what the answer is for the environmental and moral reasons, but what about the health factor Doctor Mcdougall? There is so much information out there and I am totally looking for the answers. Thanks.
Just because Monsanto is an evil company doesn't mean soy is evil. Just buy organic. And yes, why is nobody demonizing flax? Because despite the high estrogens, it's really good for you. Soy has a lot of health benefits too. There have also been numerous studies showing phytoestrogens themselves to have health benefits. Of course, ppl are different. Some ppl are sensitive to phytoestrogens, but again, that doesn't mean soy is a bad food.
I think organic rice milk is best, lowest in fats, non-allergenic related like almond-type milks may be, and a good source of carohydrates. Basically in a general sense, anything 'asian related' in food is good for you.. rice over wheat, fish over meat/dairy etc.. depending where its sourced of course.
@stockinettestitch - I used to buy the Costco plain soy milk because it had the less gums and junk added to it - it also tasted the closest to home made...if you are talking about the refrigerator kind. I'm not sure on the non-fridge packs. I would say that it would be okay to use in your oatmeal. It appears Dr. McDougall is speaking about the fake soy items. If it's tofu, soy milk, other real soy products, I think it's okay.
I've been upset more than once or twice, that 90+ percent of the Soy meat products also contain gluten and I cannot eat Them. Today I am glad I never could eat Them.
thank you now I understand now. when people started telling me soy was bad, me being chinese, I was like wtf? ive been eating soy my entire life. but now it makes sense when you explain it. so manufactured and processes soy is unhealthy. sounds similar to GMOs
Grate a block of traditional tofu, non-seasoned like you'de grate cheese, chop up a bunch of parsley, run some garlics through a press, lots of good black/red pepper, a pinch of salt, grind a dry piece of white bread, mash up some eggplant, fine grate some carrot, add water and make some tofu-burgers or patties....I love 'em....
Dr. McDougall is the BOMB!! Cut out that meat, dairy and processed foods if you want optimal health well into your old age! Look at our parents generation, no way in hell I'm going to go out like that. VEGAN FTW!!!
You're one of the few straight thinking people I know. I spend too much time trying to debunk carnivore and paleo-logic on their channels, and it can be tiring...
Time to do a workout
@@Academic_G lol still haven't realised that veganism is one of the most unnatural diets a human can follow.... and your boy simnett is on steroids...
@@youtubeuser7798 He isn't on steroids dude, he is a natty, just like e.g. Shawn Baker. Many omnivores have nutrient deficiencies, which has been shown in a lot of studies. What do u mean with 'unnatural'?
If a species doesn't feel hunger when encountering a corpse, it's unnatural that the species eats it. What do you mean?
@@youtubeuser7798 What about this? www.riseofthevegan.com/blog/only-male-us-weightlifter-in-olympics-is-vegan
He is showing onset of Dementia in recent interview and looks very unhealthy.
i love having a moment with dr. mcdougall
I really like mcdougall, and I like how he points out traditional soy products are okay, because they have been proven so for millenniums. Second time watching this little short, old but still valid. I think two ounces is obviously on the lower end of what is acceptable (Gregor shows actual evidence of 3-5 servings seemingly acceptably healthy), but I like the message.
I entirely agree. over 30 years ago, when I became vegetarian, the number of fake meat products on the market was really limited. Transition from a Standard American Diet to vegetarian reqired learning how to prepare meals using traditional soy products like Tofu, Tempeh and Miso.
I never regretted learning how to use these products, but found that to much soy did cause digetive problems. Backing off soy quickly began to resolve matters. I began to find a kind of balance while made things better quickly.
After some thinking about the issue I conclused that, because North Americans eat so much meat, meals tend to be centred on it. When moving to a vegetarian diet, one tends to naturally consider the source of protein as being of primary importance. This leads to making meals with a huge chunk of tofu or tempeh at the centre of the plate where the meat once was.
It is hard a first to move away from this kind of thinking. In truth, I eventually learned that all plant food contains protein. However virtually none of this has all the essential amino acids to be classified as complete protein. By eating a wide variety of foods the required amino acids are then combined in the body to make complete protein. Soy is rich in amino acids, so can - if eaten in small amounts contribute to the protein profile.
When I became vegetarian I was taught that it was important to get all the essential amino acids at the same time. This I was told should be done by eating nuts, seeds, grains and beans in the same meal, or at least within a few hours of each other. These foods each contained some of the 9 essential amino acids needed to make complete protein. However, many years later, I learned that this way of food combining is not required and is based on a long standing myth.
Last year I became a vegan. When I did I saw some wonderful videos by various doctors and nutritionists debunking myths about food combiing and protein. From those videos i learned that the body grabs and stores amino acids in tissue ad hock. This means that foods containing various amino acids can be eaten a differnet times and do not have to be combined in the same meal.
The value of knowing this is that it makes meal planning simpler. One does not have to stress out about getting all the essential amino acids for complete protein in a single meal. It also means you don't have to be as concerned about the source of those amino acids.
Once you understand that incomplete protein is present in all plant food you can relax and enjoy your meal. Once you understand that the old rules about food combining are more myth than real, it's easier to eat as you please instead of thinking of each meal like a science experiment.
For me the most liberating part of all this was getting my head out of meat based thinking. Once you understand that you do not need a big chunk of protein at the centre of your plate, either from animal or plant sources - everything changes.
Are dead now ?
@@joecamel6835is he?
That's awesome. I eat some soy products. I got off the vegan cheese though, I replaced that with nutritional yeast. As a newbie, only vegan for 16 months I am still learning and am realizing there is alot of vegan junk food out there. I do the mean green juice still fro the film "fat, sick and nearly dead"
Well I might have to eat sweet potatoes the rest of my life just to be safe
I entirely agree. over 30 years ago, when I became vegetarian, the number of fake meat products on the market was really limited. Transition from a Standard American Diet to vegetarian reqired learning how to prepare meals using traditional soy products like Tofu, Tempeh and Miso.
I never regretted learning how to use these products, but found that to much soy did cause digetive problems. Backing off soy quickly began to resolve matters. I began to find a kind of balance while made things better quickly.
After some thinking about the issue I conclused that, because North Americans eat so much meat, meals tend to be centred on it. When moving to a vegetarian diet, one tends to naturally consider the source of protein as being of primary importance. This leads to making meals with a huge chunk of tofu or tempeh at the centre of the plate where the meat once was.
It is hard a first to move away from this kind of thinking. In truth, I eventually learned that all plant food contains protein. However virtually none of this has all the essential amino acids to be classified as complete protein. By eating a wide variety of foods the required amino acids are then combined in the body to make complete protein. Soy is rich in amino acids, so can - if eaten in small amounts contribute to the protein profile.
When I became vegetarian I was taught that it was important to get all the essential amino acids at the same time. This I was told should be done by eating nuts, seeds, grains and beans in the same meal, or at least within a few hours of each other. These foods each contained some of the 9 essential amino acids needed to make complete protein. However, many years later, I learned that this way of food combining is not required and is based on a long standing myth.
Last year I became a vegan. When I did I saw some wonderful videos by various doctors and nutritionists debunking myths about food combiing and protein. From those videos i learned that the body grabs and stores amino acids in tissue ad hock. This means that foods containing various amino acids can be eaten a differnet times and do not have to be combined in the same meal.
The value of knowing this is that it makes meal planning simpler. One does not have to stress out about getting all the essential amino acids for complete protein in a single meal. It also means you don't have to be as concerned about the source of those amino acids.
Once you understand that incomplete protein is present in all plant food you can relax and enjoy your meal. Once you understand that the old rules about food combining are more myth than real, it's easier to eat as you please instead of thinking of each meal like a science experiment.
For me the most liberating part of all this was getting my head out of meat based thinking. Once you understand that you do not need a big chunk of protein at the centre of your plate, either from animal or plant sources - everything changes.
Marvin Double The trick to becoming a vegetarian or vegan is to do it SLOWLY. When people dive head first into veganism they usually dive into the fake meat section of the grocery store. There was an episode of Oprah where a bunch of her staff went vegan for a week. They had this vegan lady take one of the staff members and their family shopping. The first place she took them was the fake meat section! She should have gone for the starches, veggies, and fruits.
If you do things nice and slow you wont need those fake substitute products. I found that as I improved my diet my craving for animal products went down. So when I decided to give up animal products temporarily; it was easy to do. I haven't been craving animal products at all lately. So I don't feel the need to buy fake meat.
+A A Protein deficiency is a thing; it's called Kwashiorkor. However it's rare among people who get enough calories. In the US kwashiorkor is rare. So there is really no good reason to worry about protein. If anyone has any concerns just eat more beans and sprinkle some hemp seeds on your oat meal.
Trans Feminist Autism I agree entirely. there are lots of ways to get adequate protein on a totally vegan diet. As you noted hemp seeds are excellent, as are many other nuts and seeds. However as you also noted, it is important also to get enough calories. Because there is some protein in everything one needs to consume enough food to get the necessary amino acids for the body to build total protein. People who eat just meat may well getting way more protein than is needed to maintain good health. However, if their diet is heavy in meat, they may not be getting all the essential vitamins, minerals and trace minerals they need. Even meat eaters need to eat a broad diet which includes lots of fruit and veggies.
Trans ExFeminist Autism Fake meat is handy in some social situations - aside from that it is best left in the store.
Marvin Double I still focus on eating mostly beans with dark leafy greens and root veggies but I do agree with you about not worrying about protein so damn much like people seem to do in the West still.
I start out my day with my first meal of oats with fruit and maybe a glass of soy milk and I feel better than I ever did eating bacon and eggs - no more indigestion and better long term energy.
then I focus on more protein heavy foods for lunch and dinner like beans and lentils. I exercise so I do like to just have a bit more protein with my starches and I think it helps my body recover better honestly.
but yeah like you said, people worry way too much about protein and I think when they first try transitioning from a diet with meat to a diet with no meat while focusing too much on protein that kind of screw themselves over and end up going back to what they used to eat.
let's face reality: while it is ideal to eat as close to a whole food plant based diet as possible even including some traditional soy foods, it is a nice first transitional step for people to have access to veggie\soy burgers or other mock meat products.
it really helped me out while I was still trying to learn to enjoy more plants and then the more I started enjoying a bowl of lentils and kale with steamed carrots or something for instance, the less I cared about the mock meat products. i don't get the highly processed soy isolate and egg veggie burgers anymore but I do instead get from time to time veggie burgers that are made out of minimally processed plant foods like burger patties made from quinoa, bulgur wheat, black beans or something like that (no eggs now) but those other ones were a really good helpful stepping stone.
but that's just my experience with it.
Very well said. Besides that, there's no harm in having some processed faux meats (soy protein isolates) from time to time, they're high in protein and fiber usually, and frankly speaking, are way healthier than most things people eat nowadays.
One shouldn't be so quick to denounce certain foods, especially given the diets people have nowadays.
Asian people have been traditionally eating natural soy foods every day, apparently 2-3 servings a day, varying in food choice from country to country. And they were just fine, fit and healthy martial artists all along.
The bad rep soy foods get is highly speculative and theoretical, making lousy mistakes like confusing PHYTOestrogen with actual oestrogen found in dairy and meat. The medical data however proves soy foods as very healthy. Containing many micronutrients like flavenoids and phytochemicals. Known to us scientists as health promoting foods that slim you down and improve cognitive functions.
agreed. i think it's all the processed soy meats that are giving soy a bad name...but they are still way better than eating real meat, and i think the bad reputation is not warranted. people will promote eating actual dead bodies over a burger made from soybeans or think that dairy is less harmful than soy...no way it is. Not even close.
Unabashed Melancholy Exactly
hebince44 Yeah those Asians are also feminine. Soy may make you healthy but your going to be a scrawny fuck with no muscles.
Edward Huang I do 10 pull-ups in a row, easily.
Don‘t believe everything you hear. 🙂
@@edwardhuang1590 that's because the asians of today/modern times eat like Americans now, not like their ancient ancestors.
Never thought I'd say this but love you Dr. John McDougall!! You are amazing and so rare and honest.
I have searched for a long time for a diet that makes sense and that is palatable. Dr. McDougall has hit it on the head for me. I am glad to know that he says we can leave out soy products. I don't like soy and especially tofu. I am especially concerned about most soy beans in the USA are genetically modified. I watch Dr. McDougall and his wife on their cooking shows and every one of them seem that they would be very edible and also the dishes she cooks are easy to make with ingredients that are readily available (no 70 mile round trip to our nearest health food store). Keep up the good work. In another video I saw where the Doc does not claim to be a vegetarian because once every 2 years he and his wife cook and eat a small portion of turkey on Thanksgiving. I lke that! So many cheat on Thanksgivings and Christmas and cook up the ole turkey, and then they tell people, "I am a vegetarian." Well, no, you're not. Anyway, to me Dr. McDougall's advice on diet is the most down-to-earth, both healthy and palatable diet I have found to date. GO DR. McDOUGALL!!!
You definitely do not need to consume soy in order to be vegetarian. If you don't like it, don't eat it. I do like tofu now. The secret lies in marinating it for a long time for it to have the flavor sink in.
***** Nonsense. You can't buy GMO versions of those foods! And you most definitely cannot simply go out and buy GMO versions of the seed to grow it! They are licensed and their sale used for biofuel and animal feed. So much hype and so little facts...
*****
If you knew what you were talking about you would know that the Senators here in the United States struck down an amendment that would allow states to regulate the labeling of GMO foods.
The amendment, as part of the massive, wide-ranging Farm Bill, was overwhelmingly rejected by Senators on Thursday in a 71-27 vote, would have supported and clarified the existing rights of states to enact their own laws requiring the labeling of genetically engineered foods.
But NONE of that matters. TRY to buy GMO products. Try it! They are restricted! Both the seed and the final product! The available market is NOT in the 'standard food chain' as you fantasize!
Oh, I know folks like you will run about claiming GMOs are everywhere, but TRY to buy the seed to plant! TRY IT! It is a complex process for farmers to even get a license to use it!
And after all is said and done, GMOs are like gluten, the lowest source of concern in the larger issue of an optimally healthy complete balanced whole food plant based low sugar low fat diet.
Stop the anecdotal BS and find out the facts.
*****
Can you read for meaning????
One wonders what use a label would be if you cannot fathom the FACT that the Congress JUST LAST WEEK overrode each state's ability to require their identification and labeling of GMOs!!!!
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Dumbfk, GMOs have NOT proven to be a problem from a scientific POV if you would bother to actually read the scientific studies - as McDougall has stated and which are summariezed at Nutritionfacts.org. So YOU are the only one running about like Chicken Little. But YOUR admonition to check the labeling has ALSO been torpedoed as Congress has just STOPPED any state efforts to HAVE them labeled! DUH!
In other words, even if idiots like yourself demand it, federal law has just said that the states CANNOT require labeling.
So, you stupid fkwad, YOU are the only one worried about their labeling or identification and YOU are the only one who thinks that they are common in the food system.
Now shutup, as you have REPEATEDLY misinterpreted everything that has been said by EVERYONE
Awe man. The new soy burgers are so yummy.
Have them once in a while as a special treat. Moderation.
I canNOT believe I agree with Dr. McDougall!
What part of "complete balanced Whole plant based low sugar low fat no meat, eggs, dairy or oil" is complicated?
C. Esselstyn, T. Colin Campbell, and J McDougall, as well as M. Greger's research summaries at at NutritionFactsdotorg are the standards for reference.
Only internet CRANKS bash soy. The Okinwans ate soy DAILY with no issues. Joseph Mercola has MISLEAD you.
Mercola has said many questionable things.
I love soymilk (homemade) and tofu.we take them almost every single day.
What about soy milk - organic and non GMO from Costco. I'm wondering if that's highly processed. I like to use it in a baked oatmeal recipe. I could also use rice milk but already have a ton of the soy milk. Any thoughts, anyone?
So the isolated soy protein used to make fake soy meats is not good. What's the advice on isolated wheat protein (gluten) to make seitan - is that bad also?
most likely , anything over processed like gluten itself would be hard for the body to absorb , but gluten is not bad in fact our stomach bacteria thrive off it , dont be afraid to eat bread with gluten!
At the end of the day stick to whole plant based foods .. anything after that is questionable
Exactly what I was hoping he would say! This will be a gamr changer for me. Today was my first day on a starch based diet, and I actually feel like I did okay. Gonna give it my all for a couple of weeks and then evaluate how I feel, and then most likely will jump in with both feet.
Non-GMO soy is fine, but either way the processed soy isn't very healthy. Eat as many whole foods as possible, that's the best way to go.
tempeh is my favorite soy product
+matchbox555 Can't find that nearby me. But there is tofu. Mix it with rice and curry, it gets so delicious.
Very often the Soybeans are pressed thru extractions of a petroleum-based product called Hexane
That was before genetic modification came in. Now soy is pointless to eat because of the incredibly high percentage of GMO.
What makes soy so special that another legume cannot be used in its place? Why can't tofu, tempeh and other traditional soy products be made with another legume?
Why risk eating GMO when there are other crops that have significantly less chance of being GMO?
I respectfully disagree. It's true that RGBH is damaging. But soy is too. We don't have to choose between drinking adulterated cow's milk and consuming soy products. A third choice is to drink raw, unpasteurized, organic, unadulterated milk from cows and goats, which are not high in the hormones you're talking about. Raw organic cows' and goats' milk was consumed for centuries without harm; since soy was added to the human diet, we've been seeing accelerated maturity in girls. Soy is harmful.
What about soy "yogurt"?
This guy is a legend :-) Tempeh ftw!
Veganism has never almost killed anyone. In fact, if you google Gerson you'll see that veganism has saved people from sudden death and cancer. However, if you chose to eat a vegan junk food diet then your lifestyle and eating was no better then an omnivore and, in that case, you would have been sickly. I see more vegans eating a diet of mock this or mock that and they miss all of the beneficial veggies and fruit. I suspect you did too.
First, I only used Mimi as an example. Second, Mimi hasn't been vegan as long as I have. She is a baby vegan in every sense of the word but still looks amazing. The 111 year old man does still eat soy. It's all a personal choice. I think it's wrong to demonize a food product if you don't have a legitimate reason. You don't. You only have the bad information and lies spread by Kayla and Sally with no research to support their claims.
Great. Take a look at Sally Fallon. Is that how you want to look? Now look up Mimi Kirk on youtube. Which one looks better? I'll give you a hint. Mimi older then Sally. Better still. look up Jay Kordich. He's 89. Yes, i wish he exercised more but he's the healthiest 89 year old I know. Then there's the oldest man in the U.S. He's vegan you know. Yes, 111 years old. Find his story on youtube.
You health may be regained temporarily but your overall health will decline rapidly over the next ten years or more and you will see your face and body age rapidly thanks to the high protein, high fat, high cholesterol diet that Weston Price preaches. Anyone who does their research knows that Weston Price, the Dentist, advocated a vegetarian diet and he wouldn't be happy with Sally Fallon right now.
What about soy products you find in stores WITHOUT dairy and/or eggs in it, which I don't buy anyways. Like Boca Burgers? There are SO many veggie burgers on the market these days amongst "many" other things. I'm sure they are not all bad for us right? I read the ingredients and don't buy any soy products that have anything to do with animal products. Any recommendation on which soy products to buy like that? I buy soy products strictly to avoid animal products all together. Thanks
Soy isn't much of a health food because it's far too high in fat, but it's certainly not going to seriously damage your health the same way meat and dairy will. However if what you're looking for is the optimal, ideal diet for humans, soy and other nuts and seeds wouldn't be included. Still okay in moderation.
And yes, most soy is GMO. But you actually hardly ever have to worry about that if you're vegan. Most of the GM soy is fed to "livestock" animals. At least 90% of soy products that are marketed to vegans (soymilk, tofu, tempeh, mock meats) are actually organic because the companies know that vegans tend to be more health conscious and likely to avoid GMOs.
Coffee does not affect me, I drink 'religiously' three quarts a day, but I am vegan eating no animal products after years of being a heavy meat and dairy consumer, also loads of processed junk. Feel like I have reborn Super Man....
the truth hurts. new vegan will have no more soy unless organic.
i love veggie burgers--low cal and not dripping with fat, cholesterol and blood like traditional american hamburgers!
anyone have a recipe for a homemade safe veggie burger? thx
Oh no ... I do not use any soy products aside from soy ice-cream ... sigh ... but this is the UK so they would not be genetically modified ... so no Tofutti or Swedish Glace? I will bear up as best I can ...
So where does one find soy that hasn't been genetically modified (GMO) or RoundUp ready soy? I don't like eating foods soaked in RoundUp pesticides. It gets incorporated into the soy and can't be washed off.
These quick, flip shots... So I don't need to eat soy. What if I need the protein from beans and I have CKD and soy beans are the only ones that don't have menacing potassium levels? Smile that ingratiating smile at me again and tell me I don't need to eat soy. This is UA-cam at its worst.
He forgot to mention to avoid GMO soy. But yeah, he's right. We use a little tofu, make our own soymilk (no carageenan or other additives), use non-GMO miso, but we actually don't use that much soy. I don't miss the fake meats.
I fucking love GMO soy, ok?
Marko Mkd Knock yourself out
Can you post links to studies showing that GMO soy is harmful? Thanks
Maybe he didn't forget, maybe he knows enough to consider GMO soy a non-issue.
Soy is probably healthier but your going to be more feminine. I’ve noticed a correlation of health to body frame. I’ve noticed that populations with smaller frames are on average healthier than populations with larger frames. For examples the Asians are one of the healthiest people but short and skinny in stature. While a lot of big tall White and Black people in America are shit when it comes to health but big.
Wtf I love soy 😑
Just remember the majority of soy produced in GMO frankenfood at least 80% or more of it courtesy of the Monsatan Co.
I love tofu. It is so versatile. At Whole Foods thay make these sweet sesame tofu sticks and i swear they taste like chewy yummy french toast.
Thank God, cos that fake veggie remakes are NASTY! The Barley, Mushroom, and Potatoe Burger is a much better alternative to those patties sold in the sto. Lookup Barley Burger on youtube.
Thank you ( I gave up all the fake meat products . I was about to go as far as throwing out my Bragg s liquid amino. I will keep it ) , .
i love this guy (no homo)
I love this guy, too (no GMO!) Lol
and... if you are going to eat soy, make sure it's organic. Soy beans are one of the largest Genetically Modified crops in the U.S. along with Corn.
I wanted to make palak paneer but now i think I'll order it out when occasionally i want it rather than add soy to my diet.
I have never eaten meat, so I have no desire to eat fake meat or anything that looks like meat.
It's fine. It's sure a hell of a lot better than bovine, ovine, or hircine mammary secretions.
This gentleman it is absolutely hilarious and help tremendously with my conversion to the right nutrition Bravo McDougall family.
I like almond milk over soy milk.
Could somebody pass the soy sauce?
Justin_Morgan Lifting&Nutrition Most soy sauce is not real soy sauce. Look for Soy sauce ingredients soy bean, water, vinegar, salt all is need.
Yah a little bit is ok, if you eat soy at every meal however your overdosing a bit.
What about soy milk and soy yogurt?
I like eating food that had parents! that excludes soy!
I think that the myths about soy being harmful are most likely something the dairy industry came up with about the time soymilk became a competitor to dairy milk.
Weston A. Price Foundation did a lot of anti-soy studies but they also promoted coconut oil.
Are you talking about Bernando LaPallo? He eats fish, so he isn't vegan.
what about soy milk? :)
***** Unsweetened is OK - if you NEED it.....sweetened is candy
Avoid the heavily processed TVP - texturized vegetable protein - stuff typically used in the meat substitute nonsense
+sdushdiu I prefer sweetened soy milk way over milk.
+CNA sweetpeas Soy milk is completely fine and healthy. Try to find a brand with minimal ingredients - just soy beans and water. Soy milk is one of the traditional soy foods.
If you want it sweeter you can add a little sugar to make it palatable.
+CNA sweetpeas i love it. it almost always comes sweetened, though
Christina M it's often best to read the ingredient list, on the cover it might say Soy Milk, but I threw out a carton that was actually soy protein isolate and maltodextrin in it. I went and purchased a more credible soy milk without those ingredients.
No, not Bernando LaPallo. He's not the oldest and he's not vegan.
Thanks Dr McDougall for your revolutionary work ! It has changed our lives!
What about organic soy milk?
Soy has 1000x more phytoestrogens then ANY other food on the planet, next being Flax which is very high as well but Soy is just ridiculously high, its not discriminated against for no reason, and almost all of soy is GMO.
A phytoestrogen does not have the same effects in the body that real estrogen has. Phytoestrogens protect you from the damaging effects of real estrogens. If you want to avoid real estrogen, then don't eat meat or dairy products. And no one has to eat soy, there are countless ways to get plant proteins. If you eat soy, then get organic and minimally processed.
Yup. Good thing there's plenty of organic soy products where I live :)
I've studied nutrition, and was unanimously lead to believe that only fermented soy was digestable. That GMO soy is not fit for human consumption, it's altered so that it can be sprayed with roundup,it's roundup resistant, it's also modified for animal feed, with antibiotics and hormones. That the isolates are waste products and toxic. I've enjoyed eating steamed soy beans, and I used to drink soy milk, I'm open minded. I used to eat tofu, hmmmmm
+Robert Aldo True, stay away, FAR AWAY from GMO soy.
Those are not "fake foods", they are "fake not foods"
@Dawn2388 usda organic prohibits the use of gmo foods
I like tofu scramble however i can give up the fake meats...some don't taste good anyway
unfortunately, the mock meat game has stepped up like 10 levels in the past couple of years. It tastes so, so good. I eat way too much of it and need to wean myself off of it. But they are great for people transitioning to veganism because they are really convincing and still better than eating a rotting a body part, even if they're "unhealthy."
he offers no proof here.
I am more of a bi-polar clown, sometimes I am super happy, sometimes I get down, I guess that's typical of most people anyway. Are you vegan?
Low carbs and lots of soy. Lose weight.
My questions answered with 1 video
what about soy milk?
It's generally better to stay away from all (or most) liquid "foods".
talking about soy shit product, i once saw fake meat made of soy for Chinese monk. ironic isn't it? they are supposed to be vegetarian but they want to eat meat.
***** really? well i guess it doesn't matter. do you know how much they pay to Dalai Lama?
Right, you promote Tofu.... what an unscrupulous Dr!
Should we only be eating fermented soy?
Surprised he did not mention natto.
Hi rawmark, there are always exceptions. I agree that Mimi Kirk looks wonderful. I don't mean any disrespect toward Jay Kordich, he seems to be a nice man, but he doesn't look younger than his age. He looks about as young/ healthy as my dad was at that age. I certainly agree with him that drinking lots of raw veggie juices is good for your health and longevity, and I expect it's doing him a lot of good. Raw juices are great, but are best when added to a paleo diet with animal protein sources.
Well, who are you talking about then?
Thank you for the caution, but that has not been my experience. Since giving up soy and going "paleo plus raw dairy," virtually all of my health problems have vanished. There is no sign of that reversing. My friends who have continued down the road I was on, eating lots of soy and avoiding animal products, are generally sickly and look older than their years. I'm grateful every day that I gave up "high soy" and got back on a healthy diet. Take care my friend and I wish you good health.
Nils.. Hi.. 8 years later .. how's your health ? Thanks
@@vrossi2596 I'm doing well, thanks.
How is your health?
@@Nilsosmar Lol.. Fine thanks , although heading vegan .. and enjoying it ..👍
@noldorian86 he says traditional soy is fine
Hes very intelligent he
Just do almond or rice milk.
What about textured soy protein?
Actually Mimi's been a vegan for over 40 years! She stopped eating meat products when she was 30. If you've been a vegan for over 40 years and are in good health, I think that's wonderful, and I sincerely wish you the best of health. Veganism almost killed me in the ten years I was followed it. But if it works for you, and if eating soy, even with all of its toxins, works for you, that's great. Take care my friend and thanks for corresponding on UA-cam.
is soy sauce a traditional soy product? I know ideally he says go low sodium but I've also watched his discussion on salt as a scapegoat, so at this point in my life I feel behooved to include as much sodium as it takes for me to enjoy & to stay high carb. That said, I'm currently living in Thailand so soy sauce is a staple dressing - is it OK to have or no?
Most traditionally made brands of soy sauce are fine. Just check the ingredients label, to make sure it doesn't contain any of the soy protein isolate.
P.S. If you Google Mimi Kirk, you'll find interviews in which she states that she *** does not *** eat any soy. She recommends totally avoiding all soy products. Her protein all comes from greens, hemp seeds, chia seeds and sprouts. She warns on her blog about avoiding soy, and avoiding eating any foods that are "cross contaminiated" with soy from being processed in the same plant. (This is why she recommends avoiding Braggs aminos, for example).
Rawmark, first I want to say I respect your opinion and respect you, and thank you for responding. But I disagree on this question. To relate a personal experience, I ate a great deal of soy for ten years of my life. During those ten years I got very sick. When I quit soy (under protest) and went on a diet similar to Weston-Price, my health was regained almost immediately. Of course some people have different experiences. Take care, and I wish you good health and a good life my friend.
Hi rawmark, on that we agree. I was eating an all organic diet rich in fruits and vegetables. Unfortunately I was also eating soy (in the form of lots of organic tofu and soy milk, which made me sick and tired all the time. As soon as I stopped the soy, and added organic grass-fed meat and raw milk from grass-fed cows to my diet I got healthy again. At this point I'd say we've both made our points and should probably just agree to disagree. Take care, and I wish you good health and long life.
what about soy milk ?
Stop lying starch is bad for the human body smh
+Lonnie Jackson he's not saying to eat PURE STARCH, he's saying to eat STARCH FOODS (potatoes, rice, specific breads, specific pasta, legumes, beans).
American Academy of Pediatrics Committee on Nutrition (2008)
In summary, although studied by numerous investigators in various species, there is no conclusive evidence from animal, adult human, or infant populations that dietary soy isoflavones may adversely affect human development, reproduction, or endocrine function... [A]n increased incidence of feminization in male infants or an increased incidence of hypospadias in high soy-consuming populations have not been observed.
So... is stuff like SOY cheeses worse for us than regular cheese? Should I just stick with normal cheese if I had to make a choice then? Which is worse for our health overall?? Please tell me. I already know what the answer is for the environmental and moral reasons, but what about the health factor Doctor Mcdougall? There is so much information out there and I am totally looking for the answers. Thanks.
Just because Monsanto is an evil company doesn't mean soy is evil. Just buy organic. And yes, why is nobody demonizing flax? Because despite the high estrogens, it's really good for you. Soy has a lot of health benefits too. There have also been numerous studies showing phytoestrogens themselves to have health benefits. Of course, ppl are different. Some ppl are sensitive to phytoestrogens, but again, that doesn't mean soy is a bad food.
so i shouldnt eat bananas ? lol
try googling non-gmo shopping guide.
I think organic rice milk is best, lowest in fats, non-allergenic related like almond-type milks may be, and a good source of carohydrates. Basically in a general sense, anything 'asian related' in food is good for you.. rice over wheat, fish over meat/dairy etc.. depending where its sourced of course.
Is soy milk just regular milk introducing itself in Spanish? McDougall, I love your soup.
@stockinettestitch - I used to buy the Costco plain soy milk because it had the less gums and junk added to it - it also tasted the closest to home made...if you are talking about the refrigerator kind. I'm not sure on the non-fridge packs.
I would say that it would be okay to use in your oatmeal. It appears Dr. McDougall is speaking about the fake soy items. If it's tofu, soy milk, other real soy products, I think it's okay.
What about soy milk and soy yogurt? And you failed to mention GMOs....or any research on isoflavons....
I've been upset more than once or twice, that 90+ percent of the Soy meat products also contain gluten and I cannot eat Them. Today I am glad I never could eat Them.
thank you now I understand now. when people started telling me soy was bad, me being chinese, I was like wtf? ive been eating soy my entire life.
but now it makes sense when you explain it. so manufactured and processes soy is unhealthy. sounds similar to GMOs
Grate a block of traditional tofu, non-seasoned like you'de grate cheese, chop up a bunch of parsley, run some garlics through a press, lots of good black/red pepper, a pinch of salt, grind a dry piece of white bread, mash up some eggplant, fine grate some carrot, add water and make some tofu-burgers or patties....I love 'em....