Pokemon: Red VS Ash (Hoenn-Team)
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- Опубліковано 19 лис 2024
- And the battle between the most iconic pokemon trainers continues (the background even turned into night). It's been a while since the last part of this mini-series (over half a year, actually), but now I was finally in the mood to do Round 3. Something I have to say about this part is that the music (especially in the second half) fits the music quite well, which makes the battle even more exciting to watch in my opinion.
Credit goes to:
Jonas64(Scratch, made the backsprite of Ash)
DJTheFishhead(UA-cam, made the Trainer Red Epic Remix)
NeoTendar(DeviantArt, made the Outro-Wallpaper)
If you want to see a different approach to this battle, check out ASH K2's video: • Video
I don't own Pokemon,it's owned by Nintendo and GameFreak.
So Ash CANT use items but Red CAN
that is cause red is smart cough cough aim for the horn
raptorjesus101 No cause Red needs item to win + Neptune22 is a Red fanboy
I don't remember Ash to ever use an item in the anime, but he DID often switch out his pokemon at the right times, unlike Red, which kind of compensates the disadvantage of using no items. Plus, if I had been even more realistic, I wouldn't have given Ash Pokemon so high-leveled anyways.
Also, the name's 22neptun.
22neptun i think he dont use item from the anime and try hes sinnoh team
22neptun Ash has the worst movesets for his pokemon, and his pokemon aren't able to be in the hall of fame.
good lord the glailie vs snorlax was painful
Leaf Storm. Full Restore. :|
Leaf Blade. Full Restore. :/
Leaf Blade. FULL RESTORE. >:(
Sceptile is buffeted by hail! Sceptile fainted! :O FUUUUUUUUUU-
Yeah, total bullcrap.
Tyler Green no you go to eastland
Tyler Green well Ash sucks. Red is the best, at least Red got to be playable in Super Smash Bros. Brawl.
Tyler Green I know, right? That result was kinda avoidable, but the Full Restore came out :c
+Tyler Green True! I call BS!
B Dilworth Red is not the best, his victories were all BS. Oh, and need I mention his loss against Gold?
Everyone complaining about Red's Full Restores, but what about Ash's crits, flinch hax and Swellow waking up at exactly the right time to KO Venusaur with Aerial Ace?
Full restore on Snorlax was in the long run minimal, though it does matter in that Glalie can live a sludge bomb with the hp it saved vs Snorlax and kill Venusaur. It was significant vs Lapras though as leaf blade would kill Blastoise
Dude, I think that Leaf Storm not one hit KO-ing Red's Lapras was definitely a cheat because I once used Leaf Storm against a Lapras using my Sceptile and the Lapras fainted right away and they were both in level 50
Lapras has good special, it was the wrong move to be using, different Sceptiles have different natures evs and ivs its entirely possible for lapras to live this just like its possible for Sceptile to live a blizzard
Yeah you have a point but still how come leaf blade can do more damage than a leaf storm?
Lapras' defense stat is significantly lower than its sp def stat. In this case however, Sceptile was just in overgrow which is why it did more
I was kinda surprised by this one, not because of Ash since he did well mostly but because Red fumbled quite a bit in this one. Glalie vs Snorlax was BY FAR the longest battle and yet not once did Red use Giga Impact. That would've ended the match, but instead it was one Crunch after another. (you'd think Red and Ash mind-swapped for a moment there LOL)
Luckily Red snapped back into it and pulled through with full health on his final Pokemon. I felt soooo bad for Sceptile too lol. One Full Restore after another for Lapras.
Huh, not nearly as many views or comments as the previous battles. Strange. Oh well, still a good video!
Ash's victory, 3 full restores is ridiculous
Owen Konsmo And yet you're one.
***** Excuse me? Which of my comments makes me an anime fanboy? I despise the anime.
Spamming Full restores
-blue
Glalie versus Snorlax WHEN WILL IT END!
Perras
Stop it! Every time you FORCE Red to win and I'm sick of it, make it a fair match next time! Like your other battles!
Owen Konsmo then that network does not use restore everything to see if that is just as strong
Everyone complaining about Red's Full Restores, but what about Ash's crits, flinch hax and Swellow waking up at exactly the right time to KO Venusaur with Aerial Ace?
if you're tired of it just stop watching bruh. its that easy
john hollister
It's a matter of skill not forcing anything. Ash is a crappy trainer
Okay, what about Red's full restores? Have you ever NOT used a healing item in a major battle?
Fair, people tend to miss there elite 4 challange to become THE CHAMPION! Of there regions
hmmm, this fight was much closer than I would have thought. Looking forward to seeing Ash's Gen 4 team take on red.
Awesome, hope you upload round 2 soon! :)
Not liking the Full Restore towards the end.
Didn't really matter but, yeah, would've liked the match without it.
*Alright,let me fucking clarify why Ash is fucking better than Red* :
*ASH*
-Won the Orange League and the Battle Frontier
-Won 51 badges
-Champion in Pokemon Yellow
-Traveled 6 regions
-Took out 3 evil organizations(Team Magma,Aqua and Galactic)
-Came before Red
-Caught various Pokemon from different regions
-Continued traveling after becoming the champion
-Can actually speak and has friends
-Can actually walk around a rock or a tree
-Can actually swim
-Doesn't spend his entire day on a mountain thinking he should jump or not
RED
-Won 8 badges
-Champion in Red and Blue
-Traveled one region
-Took out 1 evil organization
-Caught around 20 Pokemon of Kanto
-Stopped traveling after he beat Blue
-Came after Ash
-Can't even speak and has no friends
-Can't walk around around a rock
-Can't swin so he uses his Pokemon
-Spends entire days on Mount.Silver thinking he should jump
-Just keeps appearing in remakes of games
Why did Ash come before Red ? If Red took out Team Rocket , how come Ash encounters them in his travels ? Simple . Ash came before Red
Why is it Ash in Pokemon Yellow ? Seriously , if it wasn't Ash why all the numerous similarities with anime (Starter Pikachu,getting all 3 starters in the exact same order as Ash did,Jessie and James,Pikachu refusing to evolve...)Satoshi Tajiri said it's Ash , and if he said it , that's how it's gonna be
Now i know somebody's gonna say "So what if Ash has fifty badges? If they used Red for 5 generations he would have had fifty badges too" Well guess what , they have been using Red for 5 generations now , Generation 6 is the only one he didn't appear in. If Ash is overused , so is Red
Somebody's gonna say this too "Ash doesn't even evolve his Pokemon" . So i guess Charizard,Pidgeot,Kingler,Donphan,Swellow,Sceptile,Glalie,Staraptor,Torterra,
Infernape,Gliscor,Unfezant,Leavanny and Krookodile are all unevolved Pokemon right
"At least Red ages" No Red does not age . He still looks exactly the same in Pokemon World Tournament in Black 2 & White 2 as he did in the old games . Just like Ash he is still 10
"Orange League is non-canon" . The anime doesn't depend on the games and viceversa . That would mean something that appears in the games and doesn't appear in the anime doesn't count . And saying that is stupid and illogical
"Ash loses to a level 5 Snivy" Who the hell said it's level 5 . That's a level of a starter IN THE GAMES . It knew Leaf Tornado , a move Snivy learns at level 16 in the games (so it was at least level 16) , and since Ash's Pikachu's level restores in each regions , by game rules , it was a level 1 Pikachu verses at least a level 16 Snivy
POINT: ASH IS FUCKING BETTER THAN RED . ONLY AN IDIOT WON'T UNDERSTAND MY POINT
***** I wasn't contra-argumenting myself . This is what i said : *"Orange League is non-canon" . The anime doesn't depend on the games and viceversa . That would mean something that appears in the games and doesn't appear in the anime doesn't count . And saying that is stupid and illogical* . I said that saying that would be stupid and illogical . I screamed because i was tired of Red fanboys just looking at the good side of Red and bad side of Ash . Though thank you for not bitching about Ash like everybody else
Said Smajic Look I have seen your comment in the last vid of round 2 and I think your right Ash is very Underrated due to ppl thinking he is stupid in the anime I always grew watching the Show and seen Ash getting better and thats what ppl dont see and what RED FANBOYS do its always say that Ash is an idiot because he doesnt evolves pokemon and there is a explanation probably because he as really big bounds with is pokemons and doesnt wants them to go or force them just like in the Vermillion City Gym episode. So basicly if you are reading this comment I say him with but not saying Red is a bitch or anything just disaproving what most ppl say
DarkMario9000 Alright first thing man - terrible grammar . Second i mentioned all the Pokemon he evolved that he caught as unevolved . And yeah Red is a champion IN THE GAMES , but in the anime he's barely above-average
Just saying you are still red in pokemon yellow
Ok first off you Ash fanboy let me lay some facts down on ya because CLEARLY you dont realize the comic booms existence which started with pocket monsters starring Red which was released in March of 1997 then in april of 1997 the anime started starring satoshi which then in 1998 the English dub thus creating ash SO through reference RED did come first. Now to shit on more of your points how Red doesnt age his avatar may not change but in the comics it has been very clear that in the fifth chapter red is 16 years old these comics are ongoing and they do lead up to the Unova league in which red's journeys have been much more darker and bleak then Ashs happy go lucky sloppy wins and ultimate failures at the end of EACH AND EVERY SINGLE SEASON but yet he keeps going to ultimately fail why because he is a weaker predecessor to someone that has tamed legends won almost all the gym battles Ash has so when you wanna talk you might wanna base your arguement off of something more then anime fanboy comments dont get me wrong Ash has his strong points he is a much more caring trainer where as Red he has the "Paul" attitude do whatever it takes to win but he doesn't abuse his pokemon he just doesnt use them.
Ash's downfall was the lack of a competent,balanced team.If he EVOLVED his Pokémon,maybe he would stand a chance against Red (or the Elite Four).
nope Red is the strongest trainer in the Entire Pokemon Franchise
RE D gold is
Alex Carpenter read the manga, red in manga is way stronger than gold
Great video thanks! and sorry but I'm not agree with the one who says that the "full restore" thing was a bad idea, I think is just what RED would do, or at least the fair result as possible, or what? did you people been waiting for another ending? WTF!
Full restore won that
Red won because he was cheap with items. If he couldn't, Sceptile would just reck shop. I knew it would be close because of Sceptile though. He's Ash's second best Pokemon. First being Charizard of course
Owen Konsmo And you, need to stop taking things seriously. Really? We don't care if you think you know all about pokemon. It's time for you to get on with your life.
***** Ok, then why are you watching this?
Ash could have won if Red didn't spam the full restores
He is going from the anime u rarely see ash or anyone useing poistons u really only see them with berries like brock
Ash (sinnoh team) vs red plssssss
Ash's pikachu should be around level 500 by now. its gone through 6 pokemon leagues including orange league and not to forget the battle frontier. 82 just doesnt cut it
You mean level 100 you can't go that high
Red had 3 full restores >.< -_-
fair fight
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Si puede ser
tambien podrias pasarme el Rom De heartGold en Español?
If all this time red wasn't a chicken and used items ash had a big chance
oooooo what does this thunderstone do? OMFG NO PIKACHU!
You really need to do a Red vs Iris one day now that will be a battle to see as they are the 2 strongest in the series so far (not counting Barry final team in platinum)
Red is the strongest pokemon trainer in the entire Pokemon Franchise
RE D you say that a lot
Braden Mays
Because its true...
Ash Hoenn's team is his best team so far
Yes
guys calm down about the items thing, they use HG and SS for the Red battles, they cant help it if a CPU uses an item or not. Don't get me wrong they could have used items for Ash, but Ash never used items in the anime. So unless you guys want to make your own videos about this stuff, be my guest, but for now +1 for 22neptun from me.
Why can red use full restores and ash can't that is So unfair
Well have you ever sceen ash use items ?
Never why he didn't use full restore
Ash would have won if not for Red spaming full restores.
And was i the ony one who laughed when when charizard got OHKOed by a corphish
Then there's the fact that Swellow woke up after one turn (while the average is two turns) and that made Venusaur faint (because the Aerial Ace got it down low enough to faint from Hail).
btw, Red had that battle at Volt Tackle 😂
To all you haters going on about Red's full restores: This is a hack. It is still programmed with trainer mechanics where red is set with 3 full restores to use when his Pokemon get low.
Ash should have won. He has a badass screptile
If you are making another part to this miniseries as you called it, You should take the strongest pokemon from ash´s team
Why is everyone saying that it wasn't fair for Red to use items? In case you didn't notice, the first time he healed it was after Ash had gotten a double flinch+crit.
Red never beat the elite four, we beat the elite four as red. Red is only a champion in gen 2 and hgss because of the story.
... Is the story supposed to be wrong or something? Red is Champion. We became Champion as Red. Is there something wrong with that? Are you saying that anything that the PLAYER makes happen in a video game should not be counted as part of the "story"?!
Can you do Gold vs Brendan?
I know that Red used 3 restores which is not cool. Red shouldof switched Charizard when Corphis was in the ring. But I knew Ash was gonna lose, for his Hoen team is weak. Did you do Red vs Ash (Unova team) yet?
Thank you ThatGengar
Full restores use much? That was the only thing that truly saved Red this time around.
how many legends has ash seen now how many legends has red seen
Please do Colress vs Red
I really want to see Colress in a fight!
I like Red to and he's my favorite trainer but forcing Ash to lose is stupid
Luke Dionne Bout to get sent home by them wizards
Luke Dionne no one forced ash to lose, it was a computer VS computer battle
Sonny Garcia Ash's team was lower levled and he can't use Items. The fact that he does not evolve them and that he kept the weak moves is enough of an advantage for red. Make each pokemon be the same lvl as the opponents corresponding pokemon.
+Sonny Garcia Ash was forced to lose
fuck you all
I guess this was to be expected. Most of Ash's victories were through unconventional tactics and methods. Moves that wouldn't work in the traditional Pokémon RPG format. Combined with the fact that Red always fully evolves his Pokémon (excluding Pikachu) and has constantly taught his Pokémon a variety of moves, Ash would be unable to beat Red.
Ash seemed to really take his training more seriously starting in Sinnoh and Kalos (disregarding Unova). But even then, Ash has lost far more battles due to multiple factors (overconfidence, lack of training, blind faith, lack of conventional strategy). Red's track record includes having defeated the Elite Four and becoming Kanto's Champion, to say nothing of him constantly training in the hellish environment of Mt. Silver.
well atleast you admired ash good feats red would still run but most people don't point out ashes feats
did I say tun I mean win
SSJ Mikey Thanks. I know Ash is far from perfect, but he's far from the worst trainer ever. If he managed to defeat legendaries like Darkrai, Regice, and Latios, he's doing something right.
However, Red does train much harder than Ash and could single-handedly clear out Team Rocket bases. Anytime Ash faces off against Team Rocket members that aren't Jessie and James, he's likely to get captured.
If red weren't a chicken by using full restores ash would had a chance
No, he wouldn't have. The only reason he lasted this long was because he got critical hits and flinches. Look at my comments further down the list.
Crits flinches and wakes are part of the game using items in a non story battle isn't. But even without crits flinches and wakes Ash won this fight, Glalie was beating Snorlax regardless and lack of full restore lets it finish the battle with more health than before it can take a sludge bomb and injure Venusaur putting it in range for Aerial Ace kill, it can also hit Lapras making Sceptile sure to finish it off with leaf blade/storm, and round out the match for a win by beating blastoise
That Glalie vs Snorlax battle was damn long... but Glalie headbutted its way out of it!
wow . . . double kill on first turn . . . LOVE IT! nice thinking on glalie but lol that snorlax is WAY too much of a bulky tank for glalie to handle it. also another way to indicate the levels of ash's or any anime's pokemon is to check on what level do these pokemon learn the moves that they have. like for example paul's electivire must be somewhere in the 70s because of giga impact in gen 4. ash's infernape must be in the same level too because of flare blitz. best ironic sceptile fail ever 10:20 causing its own demise and dissapointed ash XD. although the heabutt hax was cheap AF but wow hoenn's team did better than johto
jeez that corphish crab hammer hit hard
Ash is overpowered in these, if his pokemon were that strong he would have won some sort of league by now aside from orange island and frontier
IT wasnt fair ash didn't have any full restores
Andreas Christensen ash in the anime never had full restores. So that's why
Hanks for explaining other people just hate on me because I like ash better than red thanks for answering in a nice way thanks
No worries about ash
is that Pikachu vs Pikachu a tradition? owo
To be honest, I think these videos give Ash to much credit. He could never hold this much of a fight against Red.
GTFO!
and you could
no he can well atleast sinnoh ash and Kalos ash
+SSJ “zenkai mikey” Mikey shit are you dumb ash would wipe the floor every video I see all I see is that red used full restores
In his defense, in the video Red uses 3 full restores. Sceptile would've wrecked Lapras otherwise, and would've at least scored some major damage on Blastoise.
why do you use moves that ash would not use and why cant red not use items FYI no one uses potions during the battle or full restores or paralyze heals
Honestly, I'm more disappointed in Ash for not stradegizing better.
I think the only problem I had with this video is Red spamming Full Restore on Lapras. Typically AI's only use one Full Restore per Pokémon. To see 3 is a tad bit much. Sceptile should have won that round or Ash would have switched out knowing the hail would eventually get him.
You should do gold vs red but gold's real team
Its funny when both pikachs knock out
Okay from what I have seen Ash would have won in both Johto and Hoenn if Red wasn't using full restore, or if Ash was smart enough to bring some potions of his own.
and once again torkoal is treated like fodder for some reason....sigh. everyone be sleeping on that turtle.
If you make Ash forced to lose again il barf on your picture
i can just smell the butthurt. if you're tired of his videos stop watching them. its that easy bruh.
Why did Ash only use 5?
You would choose Torkoal over Corphish to battle Charizard. You could've won if you used torkoal for Venusaur and had Swellow for blastoise
Ash was so close to beating his better half but the combination of hail and item spamming destroyed him lol
Why is Red able to use not one BUT two full restore while ash cant? that is just unfair
its a npc
At least try using some items, and try switching out your Pokemon once in a while if you are against revives!
but pikachu must be lvl 100 tho...
Too be fair if Red didn't use all the full restores Ash would have won. So this just proves well timed items for the win.
Don't. Hate on the real Pokemon trainer
Ash is a ducking counterpart and he's not even better than gold
Red should win all the battles on paper based on his pokemon being fully evolved, unlike Ash's. But if you're going to do this, allow yourself (Ash) to use full restores too otherwise it isn't a fair right. Sceptile should have won against Lapras easily.
In the shoe ?
Still think Ash's Hoenn team was by far his coolest.
The only not fully evolved Pokemon on his Hoenn team was Corphish. And it may be true about Sceptile and Swellow, but those are probably his two best Pokemon he ever had. I mean come on, Sceptile beat Darkrai!
And I disagree about his Sinnoh team. None of his Sinnoh Pokemon really stood out and made me say "wow, that's a great Pokemon," like some of his Hoenn team did. Like what was the strongest Pokemon on his Sinnoh team? I don't even know.
In my opinion corphish was actually pretty tough but the fact that it only knew Bubble Beam, Harden,and crab hammer kinda sucks
MarkieDood
Infernape?
They were all pretty impressive, barring Torterra who they treated like crap after it evolved.
Full Restore ?
Ash never used iteams in the show so he dosent here red used them almost to much you know you did in red and blue
wait? how can ash fight himself?
I've seem to notice one thing. Your always losing against venusaur all the time T - T
to all the people complaining about red healing, ash was over leveled with his team, his pikachu lost to roxanes nosepass which is only level 14 in the games brawlys makuhita which was 19 and he has never beaten an elite 4 member at all Sydney the weakest has a level 49 as his strongest. in kanto ash couldn't beat loreli who isn't even level 60 with any Pokemon lost to drake when drakes maximum is 55 so none of ashes levels are accurate.
I will admit that Red healing Lapras twice was a bit lame, but that really just evens up the score from Venusaur vs Swellow, and besides, if Lapras had fainted, Blastoise would've just killed Sceptile anyways. So really Ash got some hax vs Snorlax, and that's about it. Red definitely won fair and square.
Can someone tell me which version of Pokemon is this ?
Heart Gold/Soul Silver
Greninja vs Blaziken emboar and Delphox. who would win
Greninja he can just use water pulse on all of them
SamPlayz water pulse is garbage. Hydro canon or hydro pump is more like it😏
I'm sorry I'm a noob what Pokemon is that
Ash should of won....if Red didn't use freakin full restores, Ash would of won
If this was a real Battle then Ash would have been Demolished. Red is the strongest pokemon trainer in the Entire Pokemon Franchise
No, he wouldn't. The match wasn't close at all, and Ash was incredibly lucky.
Also, your grammar in incorrect.
RE D Red is master at gen 1 Gold is master at gen2 i donT know gen 3 but Dia is masterat 4
flash orb
yeah but over all Red is the strongest Pokemon in the entire pokemon franchise
RE D your just say that because he is the first one
Ash would have won if Red wouldn't kept using full restore. If Red can use items so then Ash can use items
I love how so many people are complaining about Ash making so many mistakes in these videos. Come on, if he actually knew how to fight, then it wouldn't really be Ash.
Mage of the Round Table We are using his end team and by the end of each region he knows how to battle better than most trainers. So he should not be making mistakes.
Larry Palma 'Twas a joke, mate. Don't overthink it,
Mage of the Round Table Sorry, I overthink things way too much.
the epicness returns
stop complaining about Red he is a good trainer that's why he won he is responsible
Ash only had a Grovile at the end of the Howen Series
no in the episode odd pokemon out grovyle evolves
Snorlax could have used rest for recovery and Venisor could have had vine whipe and razor leaf🍂 and solar blast to end it alot could have been done Thunder could have been used too in this vs fight
Nice, but I really think you should do it with even levels.
That wouldn't make sense. Ash's team simply isn't as strong as Red's.
It puts them at a slant - and honestly, Ash's Pokemon were pretty high leveled. I mean his Sceptile OHKO'd a trained Darkrai.
ganoninthepit And his Pikachu lost to a Snivy that had never battled before.
Owen Konsmo
Best Wishes was ridiculous in general. They seem to reset Pikachu's level or whatever but Pikachu beat a Latios a few episodes prior. If anything, shouldn't his highest point be used?
ganoninthepit By that logic, Red's whole team should be Level 100, since most players get them that high in the game.
make that 2!
Shoulda saved glalie for venusaur... put swellow against snorlax.
I CALL BS ON THAT BATTLE
Ash's hoenn team is still his strangest to me all the bizarre and strange choices on his team were interesting this is the only team I can truly say that their wasn't a star Pokemon on it and it shows as each Pokemon pulled it's weight in this battle Ash in hoenn was a very good trainer not the best but still amazing I feel Ash was doing really well.
If Red didn't use the full restore on Lapras then Sceptile would've won.
+Richard Karpynskyi But Red is the best XD
Axstra The best cheater, that's all
Red have so many heals what a bastard
but now you dont
Can anyone tell me where i can find this music
That's the original: Pokemon HG/SS Lance/Red Theme
And that's the remix: Trainer Red Epic Remix
thank you
Its pokemon hoen riegon music
Why is everyone saying ash should have won? It obvious that his pokemon arn't actually that high leveled
Same reasoning as the Red vs Blue vid: we feel Ash got cheated because the AI used up all of its Full Restores to give Red an easier time while Ash, a character from the anime--- where items aren't an actual thing in battle--- STILL came dangerously close to winning in spite of that handicap AND the level discrepancy you so helpfully pointed out.
Owen Konsmo There's no such hack as that. Take some research about pokemon.
Red confirmed to be a full restore scrub
2 fucking full restore. If I was him I would have used potion too.
Yeah but ash never used a potion in the show so he cant use in here too