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My Experience Commuting By Road Bike: Pros & Cons
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- Опубліковано 6 гру 2019
- In today's bike commuting in Japan video, I'm talking about the pros and cons of road bike commuting. If I missed anything in this video, be sure to let me know in the comments!
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Today, my wife Thuong and I are riding our road bikes to a local cycling event here in Japan to test ride some gravel and mountain bikes. I thought I'd take this opportunity to talk about road bike commuting in general since my main 2 commuting bikes are out of commission at the moment and I've been using my road bike to commute to work lately.
While there are some disadvantages to road bikes compared to a smoother gravel bike or MTB, there were a few things that I found pleasantly nice about the road bike. Today's route is also a nice challenge for the road bike as it is a bit diverse with some hills, rough roads, flat smooth roads, and even some gravel.
In the video, I talked about some of my recommended road bike commuting tires. These are what I use.
• My Best Puncture Resis...
#1 Schwalbe Marathon:
This tire is seriously bomb proof.
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#2 Continental Gatorskins
Great Smooth Rolling Road Bike Tire / I've even used this in races and it performs great
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Here's my thoughts on bike commuting with a MTB
• I Tried Mountain Bike ...
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Awesome video, it's great that you share your thoughts on bikes and same time sharing the beautiful scenery that Japan has to offer, thank you!
I really like it when you mix biking with going to different places in Japan. Thanks
Thanks! 😁
have 6 bikes...… bought my wife's bike used for a couple hundred lmao
I have two bikes, one I use for Summer, and the other for Winter, awesome video, looking forward to the next, btw..that ice cream looks nice. A thumbs up from me.
It was very good 😋
May I suggest that Tuong has her saddle too high. Noticeable hip rock. She appears to stretch at full extension.
Will try lowering it a bit
@@TwoWheelCruise I noticed the same thing especially when she is going uphill "applying more power" to the pedals it is very obvious.
The knee should be level with the waist when the pedal is at the highest point. Her knees are nowhere near that. The saddle needs to be significantly lower, more than an inch. You want to work the quads while you ride, not use body leverage to just push down on the pedal.
Thanks for the great video with the helpful tips. I find it hard to clean geared bikes during bad weather also so I’m just like you when it comes to cleaning them.
No motivation to clean in the cold 😅
Great video thanks for explaining it so well. You answered my question!!!
Thanks! 😁
Started to see your videos as a way to prepare for the harsh winter ... here in Portugal is not extreme but the humidity and rain do their damage.
A few months ago I purchased an electric mountain bike as a car replacement for commuting it is a hard tail but it has the advantage of having tires + size, It is excellent in winter even uphill as I have steep climbs of 5 km was the only way to do it daily.
Currently is my only bike and the car is intended for emergencies, family outings and weekend shopping.
Sounds like the perfect solution. My car is for emergencies only, and transporting bikes sometimes 😅
My Trek Checkpoint AlR5 is a great commuter and an adequate trail bike. The Shimano 105 groupset realy shines on the city streets of Philadelphia, and the 45 mil tire clearance gives it versatility.
The relaxed Geometery lets you ride comfortably for hours. I did 65 miles today, and could still keep going if I had the time.
I would reccomend this to anyone who wants an all around perfromer.
You're spot on about maintaining commuting bike. Recently it's been so wet here in Germany and my gravel bike has accumulated dirt and sand on top of the front derailleur, brakes, etc. I live in a small apartment and don't have place to wash my bike at home so this is really is one of the big big big disadvantages. In summer I could just take it out to the balcony and wipe it with wet towel, but in cold season... nope.
Also one other pain in the butt is if you decided to wear complete cycling clothing for commute. I always have to take off all my layers (buff, jacket, long sleeve jersey, shoes covers, leg warmer, bib shorts), take a shower at work then change clothes.
I also have zero motivation to clean the bike in the winter 😅
And getting changed in the cold morning is always the hardest. Would kill for a hot shower at work
I always wash mine in the bath tub.
I've used my road bike for my 20-mile commute in Seattle. It's carbon, has 28 Gatorskin tires with very little tread padding. A very rough, stiff but faster ride on the streets. My commuter bike is a Trek aluminum dual sport with all-weather puncture-resistant 38 tires with fenders and a shock in front and back forks. The ride is completely different and smooth as silk on rough streets. I can (but don't like to) ride over glass, plastic shards from auto crashes, dead batteries, tree branches and all sorts of stuff in the gutter (aka bike lane). It's heavier than the road bike but then again gives me a workout. For commuters, thick all-weather tires, disk brakes, and fenders are a must.
Best not to put your nice bike through that torture 😅
Mamachari is a good bike! I have mine since I was in high school! But now I decide to try road bike. So I got a road bike now. But honestly mamachari is more relaxing for me. But I will still try to get used to it. Nice video!
Very clear explanation.thank you bro👏👍
Thanks! 😁
The special treat looks wonderful😋💕
😁😁😁
Great content as always,very informative..and yipeeeee!!! ..cant wait for the very first appearance of a full sus bike on your next vid!!
Thanks! Thuong really enjoyed it 😉
Be safe. Thank you for the info
the satori denham Koga handlebars! going to try to get those for my hybrid.
My brother used to ride a single speed bike to the station every day as part of his commute. Recently I got a new saddle and had one spare so I fit it to his bike. His saddle was looking pretty tired and I thought the Ergon one would probably be more comfortable.
The seat clamp was so dirty from him riding every day. The dirty water flicks up and gets on everything. It just shows how useful fenders are when you’re commuting.
Yeah, the bottoms of fenders don't lie 😅
Always love & good wishes to you bro ❤🇧🇩
Thanks! 😁
I've used just about everything. 20" bmx, 24" bmx... roadies. MTBs.. now I use either a Fuji folder (I have 2, ones stock..the other is converted to 700c and 3x9 drivetrain)... or a monster cross (an mtb with drop bars).....or a 1976 khs Gran sport mixte. Updated to 700c wheels.. using 38mm tires.
....also, a 2009 SE Draft fixed gear.....
I ride FUJI single gear track bike for my daily commute (non fixed-gear cuz I'm too scared), definitely agreed with the point "easy to maintain".
Not to scary if you keep the brakes on 😉
I just realized you're from Rochester. I'm in Port Huron and do Macomb Trail and Stony all the time. If you ever want to organize a ride while in town let me know. I have an extra bike you can use, either a Giant TCR Advanced 2 or a Fuji Gran Fondo with Ultegra.
I think I still have some KOMs in Stoney 😉
I'll for sure organize some rides next time I'm back.. thanks for the offer!
been on 700 x 28's for years now, never going back!
thanks 👍🏼
Ive been commuting 8miles each way to work since 2015.
originally, I said it was to save money, Public transport where im from is very expensive, but the irony of me saying id be saving money, was very much there from the first day. You start buying all sort of junk for the bike - even if you dont need it you buy it anyway - This could be things for the bike itself like lights or other things like gloves/mitts and other bits of clothing because it either matches the colour of your bike or you just like the look of. Ive got a box full of cycling clothing which ive probably worn only once or twice throughout the years - some might not fit because ive lost a lot of weight but i have LOTS of mitts and gloves 😂 I collect them like pokemon.
Secondly, It was to lose weight. Working weird and long shifts means that i never really had time to go to the gym and i dont particularly like jogging. I was very close to 238lb when i started and with some time set out for gym, more days out on the bike im now 196lb - I mean im still big but im definitely a lot slimmer than i was previously.
Thirdly i noticed that the fitter i got as a cyclist, the more i wanted to race just about everybody - Even other cyclists who are much thinner than I am and fly past me fully kitted out in lycra. I know i have no chance of winning but to me its more a way to gauge my fitness level rather than showing off. I'll race anyone, Even people in cars - Bicycle will always win because they are less likely to get stuck in traffic. So I race against cars on my bike as a fitness regime. Maybe like interval training but with a lot more time between intervals. Sprint harder, sprint faster, sprint for longer!
Our public transport also likes to go on strike a lot. Bicycles dont go on strike unless they are broken!
Great to sit back, watch & relax after a day of gardening in Oz. 25 Celsius today after a week of 35 to 40 Celsius last week & expecting a week of 35 to 40 Celsius next week.
you should have started with that event we liked to have seen it too.
In my last comment I mentioned the fact the E bikes ( of which I have ) centre drive more chance of stretching the chain , A rear wheel drive doesn't create this problem nor does a front wheel drive , however with the front wheel drive , the front drive tends to pull You around corners , good in one sense , not good in another , You be the judge ?
Lol...you said you're out of the saddle and I can see the wife just rolling along still in the saddle pushing a big gear. She's a strong girl. Some people just don't like getting out of the saddle even though it would make the effort easier.
She rarely gets out of saddle
I have an aluminum singlespeed that is 20 lbs. What were you saying about the advantage of a road bike's weight?
I saw you did some gravel Road, what kind of tires were You using?
30y commuter. Disclaimer: each persons needs are specific but my opinion...a gravel style setup is the gold standard. Disc,wider tyres,even 32-35mm slicks,drop bar and if money no object Di2.
It’s the ideal balance of speed and safety.
Sorry, a bit of a biker newbie, what is Di2?
Dorian Castillo Schott
Shimano electronic shifting.
timbo Oh, it sounded somewhat familiar, thanks. I agree with you on wider tires though, on the few road bikes that I have gotten to ride just an extra couple of mm made a world of a difference in ride comfort
Dorian Castillo Schott
Definitely,going back to 25mm tyres it’s like riding on rails and significantly easier to have a spill due to inattention to road surfacing.
Di2 looks amazing but no where near the price range for a commuter bike. Minimum the group set itself is a few grand not even counting in the rest of the bike. I got Shimano 105 of my main road bike, use it as my commuter and everyday bike basically.
I’m seriously thinking to try riding my road bike during the winter, because I don’t believe in having bikes for different seasons. Of course it won’t handle deep snow, but if it’s a rainy day (and above freezing) it should hold.
Road bikes are great transportation
live in Delaware USA commute to work by bike, and still plan all of my rides just as if it was summer, I agree with you if its snowing that's the only way I may consider not riding, but when its raining and its above freezing just plan shorter routes, I also think your body goes thru some hard changes during winter and you see those changes come to life in the warmer solstices. just make sure you keep the legs warm! lol
Hi, I stumbled onto your video by complete accident.... and it is a pleasant surprise. I'm looking to purchase my first roadbike. Oh by the way .....I'm an American living up in Kanagawa lol! I've been looking at yahoo auction and some of the local shops. What would you suggest? I'm looking at around a $1200 budget. Its approaching that time of year where its not miserably humid and not too cool, so i'm planning on purchasing soon.
I figured that I would much rather bike than drive. I live next to a station but my job is not near a station. Also, either a scooter or a mamachari will pass by me at the height of the morning and evening commute. I'm just worried about the hills! You find some steep gradients here lol. Definitely will subscribe and check out your other vids.
Great commuting video as always, keep up the videos! Anyway, I've been commuting with my old mtb and I'm planning to buy a new bike but I'm a bit hesitant. Should I start with fixed gear or straight to road bike? Sometimes, I go to a group ride with crazy fast roadies but I don't wanna be troubled with maintaining a road bike. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance
If you want to do more serious road rides, get the road bike. If not, single speed
The best bike for commuting is a cheap (215 to 270 US$ 1st hand) hybrid with no suspension (saves weight and energy) and mechanical disc brakes , and fitted with full fenders and rack(s) if needed.
Cheap and easy to maintain, cheap to replace parts, mostly has more gear range than other expensive ones ( with a simple 7 x 3 drive itself, can easily get lower than 1:1) for those nasty flyovers when carrying loads.
Also bound to be sturdy and not much sweat to replace if stolen.
Just make sure to buy from a brand that doesn't cheap out hugely, and be sure to test the bike a bit for size and quality feel and get the gearing and braking tuned from the shop .
Expensive bikes aren't very much worth it for commuting. In fact, a cheap , disc,
I'm thinking of getting a new bicycle, but I don't know whether to get a gravel or road bike for this area?
Japan must gave a good bike market. Here, used road bikes are often priced close to MSRP
Very good options, but not as cheap as the US
Disk all the way. I could never go back. also I agree that gaterskins are the best tire out there
No doubt
james walker newbie here..what do you mean by disks?
@@dry509 Disk breaks instead of cantilever
I ride a gravel bike for commuting
Road bikes are not good winter bikes, but I switched because on my commute the wind can become pretty serious
What fender is on your wife's bike? I just got the AssSaver fender :). But then it stopped raining here so can't test.
It's a zefal fender. Haha, well at least you're prepared now
I am really considering 6ku urban track bike (aluminum) for my commuting. Any thoughts? The aluminum might be a rough ride ?
There are some great alumni bikes now
Why do motorcycles use bike/walking trails?
For (30) years mostly every day I commuted a little over (20) miles total on mountain and road bikes, Everything good. (Except when it rained very early in the mourning) lol
Those are the hardest days 😅
This bike was really easy to assemble ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and required very few adjustments out of the box. The wheels did not require any truing/adjustments. The frame had some small scratches, but nothing major.I did replace the seat though - the seat it came with was very uncomfortable. The tires need to be re-inflated every 4-5 days, but this appears to be quite common for the narrow 700x25 tires.Overall, in my opinion, this bike looks and rides like a much more expensive bike.
What about a city type bike with the same tires and wheels? I want something more comfortable?
Definitely works, as long as you're ok with that handlebar style
Great commuting tips. Btw didn't see you post this one on bike commuting reddit or maybe i'm missing something?
I'm trying not to post too often there myself, but feel free to share 😉
@@TwoWheelCruise I did try to share but if the video are very helpful or too helpful it will get pull off from reddit threads. I guess some mods doesn't like smart commuter in there. hmmmmm...
@@Supermotoxl yeah, I got some heat as well 🤔
@@TwoWheelCruise My post was boot out when i show video how to wash my commuting bike after weekly ride. Wow, that was discrimination at max. Hmmmm...
Naaa road bikes are fine. 25c Continental sport tires. Started in April with a little bit of snow and now mud and rain maintenance is a bit of a pain in the ass once a week LOL. I clean my bike in the shower by the way... the down side is there's little scratches in my tub from the sand and Grit🤣🚲... ps lower your pressure by 10 when you're riding in snowy ice or whatever because if you're rocking it out at max PSI your back tire will slip from underneath you and you'll fall on your ass.
Got me some gator skins! Love them
28mm tyres will allow you to run a lower pressure, eg. 55psi. When I used to run 25mm, I used to run around 85psi.
Too bad our current bikes don't have that clearance
I'm still on 23mm
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There's no point commuting on expensive bike's unless you like spending loads to replace worn components especially if you do massive commuting miles each year. I find it easier to put a bit of money aside each pay day to put towards maintenance & parts, saves having to shell out what could be quite a bit to replace worn parts
Good point! I just turn my old bikes into commuting bikes after they get pretty old and try to stay within a certain budget each month
Hey! I am just new here. I've watch some of your videos! I am moving to Japan for a year. Thought about bringing my road bike to Tokyo. What are your thoughts about it? Is it worth it? I'd love to ride around Tokyo or any other areas/cities in there.
Cheers, and keep doing this great content
Thanks! If you can bring it on the flight, definitely bring it. Otherwise there are plenty of cheap used bike options in Tokyo.
@@TwoWheelCruise Thanks a lot! I was worried since i don't know any rutes around Tokyo. In Spain is quite easy to find many places to ride around. However it is a big contrast between both countries and I was worried about finding any good routes or mountain ports around Japan.
Hi Cruise, instead of having a cyclocross and road bike,never considered in only having a cyclocross from which you can switch the tires? Gain of space but more effort in converting. This is what I am doing and satisfied of the choice. Additionally I have an old sturdy MTB and a carbon MTB for some special occasion (long raids...). 3 bikes takes already a lot of space. Looking forward for the bike test film :-)
I used to do that with a rim cx bike. A bit trickier with disc wheels, and I don't plan on keeping a road bike much longer 😉
@@TwoWheelCruise I also got rid of my former race bike and actually noticed that there is no major performance difference between CX and Road on long rides. I actually even felt more comfortable and secure. (Riding a Giant TCX SLR2 --- purchased 1Keuro on internet from Germany, where prices are usually cheaper than in France and Belgium).
Yep, cx bikes rock
if you are carrying a backpack with a laptop, then MTB would be more comfortable right? I had done that from Da Nang to Hoi once but never on my new gravel bike. The position is a bit more aggressive so might not be comfortable.
Yes, and you'd be more stable being upright
@@TwoWheelCruise might have to let my wife carry my backup :)
Super🍻
How many miles you rides both ways?
I will get my first bicycle for fitness and commute and I will go with a gravel bike.
Grear choice!
Yah, looking forward to the next upload. Except I thought u would’ve gotten hot ramen/curry instead of ice cream. :-)
I've got a bad sweet tooth 😅 some more food in the next one
nothing wrong with rim breaks easy to adjust or repair/replace
Don't know if I haven't seen the video about your wife and her desire to bike as you. Did it take alot of convincing to get her into daily biking or your vacation biking trips? Or did she bike before you met her?
No, she started cycling just before we started dating with the goal of cycling around Lake Biwa. It's an older of our videos, but a fun one :)
I see your wife rides a Giant, what model and year is it?
Old tcr, not sure
During the winter season especially if I know it's going to be wet outside, I avoid using my road bike too. Good thing I have two gravel bikes with wide tires for that. Do you ever have those moments when you need to use your bike to commute to work but that bike you normally use all of a sudden has some sort of mechanical problem? I would assume you would just use the next working bike you have. I do that too and if there's a situation where all the bikes are down for some reason, I would just take the bus. Btw, what psi do you normally run on your road bikes and mtb for your daily bike commute?
Winter actually tends to be the most dry season in our area in Japan, so thankfully don't have to deal with many wet rides right now..
My 2 main commuting bikes are down, hence why I'm using the road bike... Still got 3 I can use before having to resort to the car haha.
I'm not picky with PSI anymore unless it's a serious ride. Usually just pump it up to 110 every once in a while.
@@TwoWheelCruise So you too have bikes that require servicing too. What's usually the reason that caused it? In my case, it's a big cut in my tubeless tire that sealant can't seal completely...mostly something to do with the tire-related.
You'll see in the next video 😉
@@TwoWheelCruise I'm looking forward to it. :)
Commuting on my road bike is so fun and healthy and I'm saving tons of money by not using my car
hybrids! thats what ive been thinking so far... mtb for competative mountain biking... road bike for road racing... and hybrids made for commuting in the areas you commute. All of them can be good for commuting but hybrids are not tied down to any specific terain and are more for comfort as well rather than performance and speed. if ones commute only takes them on smooth roads then a fitness hybrid built more for road or a roadbike is good. but if ones commute takes them through lots of wilderness than a dualsport hybrid built towards offroading or a mountain bike is good. however, if one is traveling the world or commute in a place that is not all road or wilderness, hybrid bikes built towards your liking is what im currently thinking is best especially best for someone who cant afford too many bikes. hybrids offer a bike that does everything, even if not the best at a competative level for any particular road... but at the same time adding a little comfort with upright riding although not as good as comfort bikes. i would argue, that on a competative level... if the trail is both on and off road and has an even mixture of everything a mtb and road bike and gravel bike would face... a hybrid would probably perform the fastest in a race on that kind of trail. just a guess. i know many professionals did test races with gravel bikes beating both mountain and road bikes on this type of trail. my only question is how would a gravel fare against a hybrid on this type of trail? i would assume a gravel would win because of the drop bars for more aerodynamics thats in theory only and not from an actual test. so both gravel and hybrid are good for all rounding but hybrids are also comfort.... however, im curious what happens if one changed the handlebars on a hybrid to drop bars. im currently looking into handle bars.
any good advise about, how you did to get your life done there? i am about to visit JP embassy to ask, some info l.. really want to life there you might be a good friend to have if i fly to JP.
Here's a video where I talk about this a bittwowheelcruise.com/japan/living-in-japan/my-story-of-how-i-learned-japanese-moved-to-japan-%E3%81%A9%E3%81%86%E3%82%84%E3%81%A3%E3%81%A6%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E8%AA%9E%E3%82%92%E5%AD%A6%E3%82%93%E3%81%A0%E3%81%AE%EF%BC%9F/
i think gravel bikes make good commute bikes, if you're into the sportier side
Yeah, they're sold
Is it possible to get on a train with your bike?
I made a video about that, search bring bike on train in japan
What kind of fender did tuong use?
Zefal
I think you both need at least one bike each with full mudguards ( Fenders) or you arrive in work very wet for many hours -not a good idea ,plus good winter F & R Lights with a change of clothes in a water proof back pack and a tin of WD 40 waterproof chain lube ,one more thing pump in puncture proofing into your tires / tubes.
That's near the top of my list now. Our mamachari has full guards 😁
Can someone recommend me a good beginner road bike for some one literally just starting out. Thanks.
I'd say watch those videos like best bike for 1000 bucks.
Max Krug I decided to go with journeyman sora 650. Thanks
I commute using a mountain bike. I'd love to own a roadbike but the roads here are just terrible with random rocks lying around and pot holes anywhere with no bike lanes. Oh man ....
Yeah, stick with the mtb 😉
same here, also, my route takes me through some really bad roads, narrow dirt paths and gravel roads (mostly to completely avoid traffic and they are shortcuts as well. Also because it's fun) luckly I live 4km away from work so its a fairly short ride but still.
Also, lights are an absolute must if you ride back home at night, at least a rear light but where I live there are constant power outages and street lights suddenly go kaput and you cant see your front wheel anymore. Scary stuff specially when you need to avoid quite deep potholes.
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I'm learning a lot watching your videos sir cruise, keep it up.. by the way sir i want to purchase a fatbike here in japan can you help me?
Thanks! Sorry, I'm not really familiar with them and options are limited here..
42C tyres all the way 😁 Not much slower on the roads either ✔
Wish they fit 😅
Can u upload vehicle commute video?
I've only done it 2x this year 😅
Two Wheel Cruise lol I’m kidding I love riding a lot better than driving. I own a car but only use for work, shopping n other miscellaneous things. Currently saving up for a road bike
Go hydro disc brakes. Forget mech disc brakes unless you travel with the bike a lot. I find hydro disc brakes require more maintenance than rim brakes. Also organic pads wear down much faster than most rim pads. Now that your wife is trying out different bikes it won't be long now before she has as many bikes as you!😆🚴🚴🚴
She's starting to get n+1 fever
How do you get so many views and thumbs up with 0 thumbs down damn
The people like what they see 🤔
Single speed
ガスト！！
Thuong used to work here ;)
steel gravel bike
Would love to get one
What is a gravel bike?
A road bike with more tire clearance and smaller gears
It's basically a combination of Roadbike, cyclocross, MTB ...it can keep up nearly as fast as roadbike and can handle Offroads..which perfect for commuters and longrides..which i need right now ! Lol
@@TwoWheelCruise hey man, I've got LAUX mindmark 2500 RoadBike...as a commuter, I'm really worried about tire maintenance cause i can't deal with it....what type of tire that's budget meal and durable but not expensive for commuters like me ? I ride like 15km
Marathon, they'll last a full year without flatting
What animes are you watching these days?
Yakitate japan
Dr stone
Beastars
@@TwoWheelCruise Oh cool, I only watch Dr. Stone out of those! It's such a great show! btw, I think you might also like Ahiru no sora since it's a sports anime (basketball) :)
@@Way_Of_The_Light Been really into sports anime lately 🙂
How about a mtb?
I made a video for that 😉
You wouldn't daily drive your Ferrari.
Road bike is sooo uncomfortable, hybrid or gravel is better
Truth