Thank you so much for making this video. I super appreciate all the information you shared, its all very helpful! I love the way you explained everything, its was easy to follow along and understand
Hi, I'm an aspiring artist, the thing is I have wanted to do digital art for a long time but never got a chance to because I'm used to doing fine art. And the fact that I have a disability and only operate with one hand makes using a keyboard nearly impossible. That is why I don't know which tablet to choose that fits me.
Yes I use an Ergotron LX arm on the 24” Cintiq. It seems to work ok, although I have the Cintiq resting on the desk. Not so sure it would hold it steady if the arm was fully floating in the air (not sure any arm really does that though they all wobble a bit). I have used it as a quick standing desk where I pull the arm up and can use it while standing though, so it’s pretty strong. I mount it in the middle of the desk by drilling a hole… which I find helps stability a bit. I haven’t tried using any of the cheaper arm brands. I got the Wacom branded arm for my 32” Cintiq, and that seems to work well ( an lx would have no chance holding up the weight of the 32” and The stronger hx ergotron arms do not have great manoeuvrability unfortunately)
I don’t have a lot of experience with the Cintiq 16 pro. Is there a reason you want a smaller one? Is the older model cheaper now, or can you get a deal on it? Unless you really need it to be small or want the better screen on the pro I would suggest trying to get a bigger screen for the same $$. In my mind the 4k is a bit wasted on that screen size. The normal Cintiq 16 that’s only HD 1920 feels good from a pixel density standpoint.
@@TheDrawingCodex yeah, this is because I'm feeling great working with a small screen. I'm currently working on a 13 hd cintiq. I saw on amazon the cintiq 16 pro old model at 700$
what is your opinion regarding color accuracy vs resolution? I own an Eizo CG2420( bought second hand for 25% of retail value) which i use as my main monitor for my digital art paired with a Wacom Intuos Pro M. It has really nice color gamut, 10-bit display and it comes with integrated calibrator. Colors as as good as you can imagine...However , the resolution is only 1920x1200. I have been looking at 4K monitors since its 2022 and they are getting more and more affordable...Im not a professional so im not sure if Im getting full value of what the Eizo provides regarding color accuracy so Im hesitating if I would have a more enjoyable experience with a 4K panel instead...
Hey Barraza! Yeah that is a good question... Ultimately my recommendation is to use two monitors if you can! If you already have a good color monitor then you can always use it to check colors (have a version of the file up on your monitor with better color that you can check as you create). And then have a second 4k monitor to give you the space and size. Not sure if this is possible with your computer setup. I was going to make a video on 4K specifically. As I do think it's a pretty good thing to have. Once you start to use the space and ability to see the art in more detail... it's hard to go back. I think a larger physical 4K monitor is a good thing as well. I'm typing this on a 32" 4K display and it really does allow me to see art bigger and better. And also to have a lot of photoshop pallets and stuff on screen without it being really small. You do need a slightly deeper desk to be able to sit back from it a bit though... So yeah I would say 4K is probably more important than having a super high end color gamut monitor. As long as the colors are not terrible and below the rec 709 style color space numbers... it should be fine. And again at some point you should be able to easily throw your old monitor on the system as well and use it. I still have an old monitor I bought in 2006 or so plugged into one of my machines. If the colors are good it will always come in handy as a second screen. Let me know if this helps!
I know it’s been 5months and you might not see this or reply, but I’m gonna shoot my shot anyway. What are your thoughts on XP-Pen products? I’m trying to get the Innovator 16 Pro anniversary edition and I had it ordered, but they sent me the wrong one. They sent me the 15.6 holiday edition. Their customer service has been absolutely atrocious. They don’t have call-in customer service for the US so no English speakers it’s all through email. It takes days to get a response from them and then it seems like it’s an automated message that just answers general questions and concerns. While trying to return it they “promised” to send a return label and it would arrive within 48hours but it never did. So we made our own label and sent it back with shipping insurance. They received it and We’ve been waiting on the refund for a month and it’s still pending. My question is, is this company worth the hassle to work with or should I start looking for something else from huion or Wacom? The tablet I originally ordered was everything I need currently and probably a little more. Up until now I’ve been drawing digitally for 4 years solely on my iPhone 6S+ with just my touch screen, but the abuse has taken its toll on my phone and I had to stop which is why I wanted the tablet. I can’t afford to get anything else without this refund either. The only thing I actually received that was eighth from this company was the cat print drawing glove I ordered at the same time as the tablet, but that took a month to arrive when it should have been 10-14 business days. I’m at my wits end with this. If you know anything about them and their products could you give me a little advice on what to do? Please?
My old monitor just died I'm just left with my Asus laptop(G14) which boasts 100%srgb. I have looked alot of gaming monitor reviews while the might have good specs for an digital artist, but they are not properly colour calibrated out of the box. So basically reviewers use a colorimeter to calibrate the thing. But it makes no sense to buy such an expensive thing for just one use. I thought you'd also talk about that colour calibration stuff, I don't really understand that myself. That's why I'm thinking to either gamble and buy a monitor and hope that the factory calibrations are good or just buy a pen tab because buying a tool to calibrate your monitor which is as expensive as the monitor itself doesn't make much sense. Also I don't really understand the nonsense people say that you don't need alot of Adobe RGB unless your work is getting printed and shit like that. My work which I'm drawing on 100%srgb is going to become a physical merch so who knows how the colours are going to be there. That diagram explanation was pretty helpful btw!!
Yeah great question. It's a big topic, if you want actual specific advice about the calibration you might have to look elsewhere... but I can give you super practical advice. I tried doing a fully color managed workflow 15 years ago for print.... it sounded like a great idea. But I found it was very hard to get working properly. And often caused more trouble than it was worth. The bottom line is that as long as the screen has decent color then it will be fine... unless you are trying to do something that is very specifically color managed (mastering a feature film grade or doing some high level graphic design where someone will fire you if the logo and image combo is not the exact pantone reference etc etc). The key to understand is that most people are not viewing your stuff on a color managed setup... so they don't care. It's only when you need to match something exactly for a specific use case that the color management will pay off (perhaps if you are trying to get your photos to match an inkjet print exactly it might be essential as well). What you are trying to avoid is BAD color spaces (From cheap monitors). Situations where the screen is not able to even display standard 8 bit color etc. In this case you will not be seeing the actual colors that are in the file. There might be red... vibrant red... and super super vibrant red in the pixel data... but you only see standard red. This is the only real case I can see where you run into a bad situation... someone else might see a vastly different image to what you saw on the screen. When printing merch etc the weak link is whatever printer is used to create the image on the item. You can have a fully color managed workflow... but unless the place you get to print it can utilise that and actually has the operator pay attention... you will not get much control over the output. Same thing with traditional printing... it all comes down to the 17 year old printer's apprentice who is slapping on the actual CMYK paint to the drum :) If they get the ratio wrong nothing else matters. Let me know if that helps at all!
24 pro has awful laminated display with a lot of grainess and dirt if you look close. Its worse than 27 qhd or 32. Even chinas xp-pen have quantum dot version that looks much cleaner upclose. I do not recommend 24 pro. Before buy check it upclose if you like it or not, that white color will be very "dirty". Other than that palm rejection not perfect, touch also better be off, fan noise (it can be reduced through settings). Other than that its okayish. Also I disliked penn pressure, for some reason it was hard to make Ps a thin to fat line.. even with all settings range was poor. Iam not saying other monitors better, but for price wacom asked its not an option, maybe only for half price maybe. Also you can compare laminated screen with your phone screen or at home with any monitor. I got samsunq qled c34 and white color looks 2x better than on wacom. So think twice.
Thank you so much for making this video. I super appreciate all the information you shared, its all very helpful! I love the way you explained everything, its was easy to follow along and understand
This was really helpful, thank you, I was so confused but you cleared a lot of doubts =)
Hi, I'm an aspiring artist, the thing is I have wanted to do digital art for a long time but never got a chance to because I'm used to doing fine art. And the fact that I have a disability and only operate with one hand makes using a keyboard nearly impossible. That is why I don't know which tablet to choose that fits me.
Viewsonic + the 24 Pro non touch just like u sir, twins
Haha nice! Yeah it’s a good setup!
Ive read how to draw a manga..it always say..draw patterns first...well i guess must practice if i get my own xp pen finally
Just a quick question. Are you using an arm for your cintiq? If so what one would you recommend?
Yes I use an Ergotron LX arm on the 24” Cintiq. It seems to work ok, although I have the Cintiq resting on the desk. Not so sure it would hold it steady if the arm was fully floating in the air (not sure any arm really does that though they all wobble a bit). I have used it as a quick standing desk where I pull the arm up and can use it while standing though, so it’s pretty strong. I mount it in the middle of the desk by drilling a hole… which I find helps stability a bit.
I haven’t tried using any of the cheaper arm brands. I got the Wacom branded arm for my 32” Cintiq, and that seems to work well ( an lx would have no chance holding up the weight of the 32” and The stronger hx ergotron arms do not have great manoeuvrability unfortunately)
Is the wacom cintiq 16 pro (the old model, I guess the 2017 version) still a good choise?
I don’t have a lot of experience with the Cintiq 16 pro. Is there a reason you want a smaller one? Is the older model cheaper now, or can you get a deal on it? Unless you really need it to be small or want the better screen on the pro I would suggest trying to get a bigger screen for the same $$. In my mind the 4k is a bit wasted on that screen size. The normal Cintiq 16 that’s only HD 1920 feels good from a pixel density standpoint.
@@TheDrawingCodex yeah, this is because I'm feeling great working with a small screen. I'm currently working on a 13 hd cintiq.
I saw on amazon the cintiq 16 pro old model at 700$
what is matter 8+2 bit low color reproduction vs 6+2 high accurate ,high color reproduction? for digital art on photoshop?
what is your opinion regarding color accuracy vs resolution? I own an Eizo CG2420( bought second hand for 25% of retail value) which i use as my main monitor for my digital art paired with a Wacom Intuos Pro M. It has really nice color gamut, 10-bit display and it comes with integrated calibrator. Colors as as good as you can imagine...However , the resolution is only 1920x1200.
I have been looking at 4K monitors since its 2022 and they are getting more and more affordable...Im not a professional so im not sure if Im getting full value of what the Eizo provides regarding color accuracy so Im hesitating if I would have a more enjoyable experience with a 4K panel instead...
Hey Barraza! Yeah that is a good question...
Ultimately my recommendation is to use two monitors if you can! If you already have a good color monitor then you can always use it to check colors (have a version of the file up on your monitor with better color that you can check as you create). And then have a second 4k monitor to give you the space and size. Not sure if this is possible with your computer setup.
I was going to make a video on 4K specifically. As I do think it's a pretty good thing to have. Once you start to use the space and ability to see the art in more detail... it's hard to go back.
I think a larger physical 4K monitor is a good thing as well. I'm typing this on a 32" 4K display and it really does allow me to see art bigger and better. And also to have a lot of photoshop pallets and stuff on screen without it being really small. You do need a slightly deeper desk to be able to sit back from it a bit though...
So yeah I would say 4K is probably more important than having a super high end color gamut monitor. As long as the colors are not terrible and below the rec 709 style color space numbers... it should be fine.
And again at some point you should be able to easily throw your old monitor on the system as well and use it. I still have an old monitor I bought in 2006 or so plugged into one of my machines. If the colors are good it will always come in handy as a second screen.
Let me know if this helps!
I know it’s been 5months and you might not see this or reply, but I’m gonna shoot my shot anyway.
What are your thoughts on XP-Pen products? I’m trying to get the Innovator 16 Pro anniversary edition and I had it ordered, but they sent me the wrong one. They sent me the 15.6 holiday edition. Their customer service has been absolutely atrocious. They don’t have call-in customer service for the US so no English speakers it’s all through email. It takes days to get a response from them and then it seems like it’s an automated message that just answers general questions and concerns. While trying to return it they “promised” to send a return label and it would arrive within 48hours but it never did. So we made our own label and sent it back with shipping insurance. They received it and We’ve been waiting on the refund for a month and it’s still pending.
My question is, is this company worth the hassle to work with or should I start looking for something else from huion or Wacom? The tablet I originally ordered was everything I need currently and probably a little more. Up until now I’ve been drawing digitally for 4 years solely on my iPhone 6S+ with just my touch screen, but the abuse has taken its toll on my phone and I had to stop which is why I wanted the tablet. I can’t afford to get anything else without this refund either. The only thing I actually received that was eighth from this company was the cat print drawing glove I ordered at the same time as the tablet, but that took a month to arrive when it should have been 10-14 business days.
I’m at my wits end with this. If you know anything about them and their products could you give me a little advice on what to do? Please?
My old monitor just died I'm just left with my Asus laptop(G14) which boasts 100%srgb. I have looked alot of gaming monitor reviews while the might have good specs for an digital artist, but they are not properly colour calibrated out of the box. So basically reviewers use a colorimeter to calibrate the thing. But it makes no sense to buy such an expensive thing for just one use. I thought you'd also talk about that colour calibration stuff, I don't really understand that myself. That's why I'm thinking to either gamble and buy a monitor and hope that the factory calibrations are good or just buy a pen tab because buying a tool to calibrate your monitor which is as expensive as the monitor itself doesn't make much sense.
Also I don't really understand the nonsense people say that you don't need alot of Adobe RGB unless your work is getting printed and shit like that. My work which I'm drawing on 100%srgb is going to become a physical merch so who knows how the colours are going to be there. That diagram explanation was pretty helpful btw!!
Yeah great question. It's a big topic, if you want actual specific advice about the calibration you might have to look elsewhere... but I can give you super practical advice. I tried doing a fully color managed workflow 15 years ago for print.... it sounded like a great idea. But I found it was very hard to get working properly. And often caused more trouble than it was worth.
The bottom line is that as long as the screen has decent color then it will be fine... unless you are trying to do something that is very specifically color managed (mastering a feature film grade or doing some high level graphic design where someone will fire you if the logo and image combo is not the exact pantone reference etc etc).
The key to understand is that most people are not viewing your stuff on a color managed setup... so they don't care. It's only when you need to match something exactly for a specific use case that the color management will pay off (perhaps if you are trying to get your photos to match an inkjet print exactly it might be essential as well).
What you are trying to avoid is BAD color spaces (From cheap monitors). Situations where the screen is not able to even display standard 8 bit color etc. In this case you will not be seeing the actual colors that are in the file. There might be red... vibrant red... and super super vibrant red in the pixel data... but you only see standard red. This is the only real case I can see where you run into a bad situation... someone else might see a vastly different image to what you saw on the screen.
When printing merch etc the weak link is whatever printer is used to create the image on the item. You can have a fully color managed workflow... but unless the place you get to print it can utilise that and actually has the operator pay attention... you will not get much control over the output.
Same thing with traditional printing... it all comes down to the 17 year old printer's apprentice who is slapping on the actual CMYK paint to the drum :) If they get the ratio wrong nothing else matters.
Let me know if that helps at all!
24 pro has awful laminated display with a lot of grainess and dirt if you look close. Its worse than 27 qhd or 32. Even chinas xp-pen have quantum dot version that looks much cleaner upclose.
I do not recommend 24 pro. Before buy check it upclose if you like it or not, that white color will be very "dirty". Other than that palm rejection not perfect, touch also better be off, fan noise (it can be reduced through settings). Other than that its okayish. Also I disliked penn pressure, for some reason it was hard to make Ps a thin to fat line.. even with all settings range was poor. Iam not saying other monitors better, but for price wacom asked its not an option, maybe only for half price maybe. Also you can compare laminated screen with your phone screen or at home with any monitor. I got samsunq qled c34 and white color looks 2x better than on wacom. So think twice.