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Using branded to send havnis has to be the most big brained and terrifying interaction I've ever seen.
I've done that a few times actually. You have to have a certain hand, but it works pretty nice.
@@JABRIEL251 it's also great following a bystial banishing a tear. You can just shuffle the on from banished back with lubellion
@@JABRIEL251 you only need 1 branded opening really, branded opening, summon Aluber, Aluber add bf, bf send albaz x tear for lub, lub EFF, tear EFF, tear use aluber and tear to summon masq, lub send itself and albaz for mirror jade, you'lld only have 2 cards left in hand (assuming you didn't send tragedy or something for b.o/lub) but you still haven't normal summoned either 😂
Moments like the Plasma vs Tri-Heart makes me wish Yugioh had a ruling manual like MTG instead of relying on sample rulings of similar interactions
I don't. That thing would be like 10,000 pages long
@@Rahnonymous yeah the Comprehensive Rules for Magic are also incredibly long, they’re not designed for players to read and memorise- they’re explicitly for solving ruling cases and only judges should have any idea of specific rules interactions beyond knowing how to play the game
@@Rahnonymous Unless you're going to be a judge, you're probably never going to need to read it.
@@SyxxPunk Any amount of info prior to an interaction is what makes a player better. High level fighting game players study attack, block, and dodge frames. Card games are no different.
@@Rahnonymous So is it a good or bad thing to have?
Activates the effect of "Fateful Adventure"
Chains Ash
-Sure
Doesn't even have a valid target in deck lul
I have one case about Tri-Hearth and Plasma in Master Duel. My Tri-Hearth automatically negated after my opponent summoned Plasma on the field.
Same the ruling would be plasma would be summoned then tri-heart would be negated so plasma can stay in attack position along with any other card summoned here on out as long as plasma stays on the field it's an odd ruling but that's how it would go
another interesting ruling is that vera the vernuslyph goddess can negate and destroy Tri-hearth's effect if you have 5 earth monsters. because her negate is worded to act like a passive, not a ignition. by passing his effect
Yup, it's the same as with Bagooska
@@DarkSymphony777 Kinda like how Cerulean Skyfire can negate Super Poly for the same reason. Yugioh just makes no sense
@@joanaguayoplanell4912 yeah it does. But I love the game even after spending currently 20 years playing it
Activating cards without legal materials is so frustrating.
I went against Ancient Gears with Dark Magicians several years ago with only one Magician Navigation in the graveyard. My opponent activated Power Bond with 4 other cards in his hand and I had to negate it. Then he used Overload Fusion to summon Chaos Giant and attack every monster and win. After the duel, I saw that he only had spells in his hand (nothing on field). I was so angry, especially cuz it wasn’t in a tournament so I couldn’t actually call a judge.
Oh....so THAT is why Yugioh let's cards see into the future. I get it now
Wouldn't that still be grounds to ya know, consider it cheating? You can't legally activate it.
@@firepuppies4086
Yes. Yes it would
Did they control any monsters?
@@ixchel3330: no, I cleared out their monsters the previous turn.
For the plasma ruling, wouldn't jinzo plus final attack orders be pretty close? Like special summoning him in def position with final attack orders up. You can special summon in defense with it up but they are immediately changed to attack position but jinzo negates trap cards. Tri heart forces defense position so you can summon in attack but they are immediately forced into defense but Plasma negates monster effects.
Unfortunate these are so short XD I love these
I had a similar situation to the Plasma. I had the Buster Lock (buster dragon and Fusion Buster Blader equiped with Dragon Buster) and my opponent summoned Plasma. MD allowed the Plasma to stay in attack position AND negate my effects even though my monsters were on the field first. I was a little intrigued on how my effect didn't go off first.
I think the ruling is that the new card gets to apply its effects, then the other stuff applies. A small priority interaction that gives the player catching up a chance to actually catch up. Doesn't matter much for activated effects, but for sweeping passives it matters
@@clayxros576 I had someone do research on the cards. Buster Blader negates effects from activating. However, since Plasma is a continuous effect, it beats Buster Blader.
Yes you did answer your own question in the replies. Continuous and Activated effects are the greatest (huge sarcasm) thing to explain to people who are trying to get back into Yu-Gi-Oh! from GX era and prior. I had to explain why Marshmellon wouldn’t be destroyed despite its activated effect being prevented to be activated.
It is refreshing to see that some players are calling judges for actual confusion on rules and not just sharking and “READ MY CARD”
Conflicting effects rulings are definitely interesting scenarios but holy hell! Trying to comprehend how the functionality resolves is beyond me.
Plasma was my only good hero card as a kid and I had a deck the just spammed monsters to summon it; unbeatable on the playground as long as I drew it
I fell like the plasma tri-heart debacle could have been resolved easier with how Plasma comes in field atk and negates TRI immediately so he doesn't have to go in defense because the effect is auto negated by plasma wording and tri only negates activated effect on def position monsters
Not that easy as both continuous effects are trying to occur at the same time
@@BigLadle99 yes but tri-heart can't make plasma go to defense if he has no effect
Because how it goes down is that nothing on your opponents monster zone has an effect and tri wants to make you go to defense to then negate but plasma can come in on atk position and that's when his effect happens on the being on the field at all, tri effect happens after noticing atk position monster but by that point he is already negated
I had this happen in Master Duel
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@@suhas-qw4nu that was sick, I've been trying to play Heroes into current runic/sprite and it ain't nice
@@Fainted-Ikaros
Thanks
I did misplay
i used droplet too early
i'm just wondering why he summoned everything in defense even after i droplet triheart.
I've had this same situation in MD and for some reason plasma negated my effect and took my tri heart, even though my tri heart was on the field first
With how some ruling solutions are found, this game looks like it was made for lawyers.
I learned Plasma ruling when I used Crimson Nova and they always know that they'll get Plasma on board before I could use Cubic counters on them.
So quick question, let's say my field is, A legendary ocean and ocean dragon lord kairy shin, and my opponent activates skill drain, which of kairu shin effects is negated. The continous one where you can only control 1 non water type or the search effect for a umi, sea stealth card.
Both effects are negated
Note: If you try to use the Search effect of Kairyu-shin with skill drain up, and banish it with Sea Stealth Attack in response, Kairyu-shin is no longer on the field, so can resolve normally
@@VGV1deo I know that play, it saved me a few times
when you try to read chat logs to figure out what happened but your polish and it's the first of september 1939
4:00 "what do you do?, you play floodgates" came in at the perfect time lmao, avoid all this
I have a ruling question:
My opponent has Skill Drain
I have Generaider Boss Stage
I Summon Harr and then Summon 4 tokens on a New Chain
I then use 3 of those tokens to summon Trias Hierarchia
In this case would I be able to pop the Skill Drain and Draw 2
I want to say yes, because the special summon/Pop/draw are all part of the same effect and since it resolves by summoning itself, you can't then negate the pop/draw
That sounds right since Salamangreat Foxy can also pop skill drain when summoned from the gy and the wording of Trias effect is similar
@@roguebubble Thanks, that's what I thought.
1:40 This is why distant coder got banned :(
Will we ever get a Crystal Beast rulings quiz?
4:20 I think I know what you MEANT to say lol
Curious, why not just ban someone if they've been caught blatantly cheating twice, and by the sounds of it, having been frozen half a dozen times? At that point surely it's better to remove them from the platform to prevent further malicious play ?
Giving multiple chances is simply courtesy. Especially when you can just see their history if they're doing something sus, letting them back in as a second chance isn't a huge deal. Take Dawnstar as an example.
They may do it to keep a players history as well. If you ban them and they make a new account, they get let off easier a few times before an account history exists.
Or you can just place your hand into the spell trap zone
My brain hurts thinking about plasma vs tri-heart
Just think about Continuous effects vs Activated effects. If the card specifies “Activate”, it is an Activated effect. If it does not specify “Activate” or anything of that nature, safe to say it is a “Continuous” effect.
Plasma also applies his “Continuous” effect on summon. Which is why this interaction happens. As Tri-Heart is only immune to activated effects of defense position monsters. So Plasma can stay in Attack mode.
DB is just confusing sometimes to inexperienced people.
Yugioh is confusing to experienced people....though DB definitely magnifies the issue
Using extra gate, calling level 1 on purpose and discarding tri brigade kit for free
on conflicting effects, doesnt the lattest one applied the one that has priority?
People just need to play master duel for some of these rulings and test the decks first
Problem is MD operates off the OCG effects and they handle things different then TCG, specifically with how chains and fast effects go off
@@SuperSayianWarrior I don’t think you understand what I’m getting at some of the things they try to do in DB can’t be done in MD or in TCG tournaments if they tried pulling off these plays in MD it won’t work because the plays will either be miss timed or because what they thought they could do is actually wrong and can’t actually be done MD is the closest thing to the TCG you can get for the most recent Yugioh Video Game I miss when we used to get new video game releases for the Tcg it’s sad we don’t get any Yugioh WC games anymore
@@kaylanicoles8195 yes but using an auto Sim that everyone knows uses OCG rulings is gonna screw people over more
@@SuperSayianWarrior no not exactly you see the ocg isn’t different from the Tcg rulings the only real difference is the banlist that would be the only real big thing that could mess people up that the banlist is not the same but the rulings are bassically exactly the same I know the banlist fucked me up when I came to return to locals I didn’t know Maxx C was banned that’s it I went to locals with an evil twin deck and was looking to put Maxx C in it when the store manager told me it’s banned but everything else for the deck was fine and I got to play and win a couple of matches
@Kayla Nicoles Actually yes. For example if you have Two trigger effects that go off at the same time and one of them includes any effects that Ash can stop. In TCG you can do something called Chain Blocking. For example, E Hero Stratos and Kagetokage. In TCG you can go Stratos Chain 1, Kage Chain 2 to stop Ash Blossom, where as in the OCG you can activate Ash as Chain 2 where Kagetokage would then become Chain 3
Guys, I don't know what deck to finish first..
I have Musketeer, Myutant, Magistus and Blackwing almost finished. (My adhd keeps me switching from pack to pack, "Nahh this looks cool! I want this one now!" kinda situation)
So, why not have other people decide for me!
Muskets are simple to play and very cool, I'd go with them. Personal experience.
Muskets is very fun and myutant too but musjets is easier to to build
You can make some nutty boards with blackwings. Full Armor Master is one of my favorite cards ever. Only problem is the deck dies pretty easy to handtraps.
I'mma say Magistus..... they're cool
Thank you for all your replies!
I will go with the Musketeers first, then Magistus and finally the Blackwings!
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I might call upon on your powers in the future again, when I've finished these 3.
So plasmas effect is inherent not a activated effect on summon? So tri heart does nothing
Yes. On summon, it applies its continuous effect of negation on the opposing field. It is not an “Activated” effect, it is a “Continuous” effect. It is the same reason why Plasma can negate Towers regardless if Towers was summoned before Plasma. As Towers negates Activated effects, not Continuous effects.
Plasma negates Tri Heart just like it negates bagooska so it will not switch to defense
5:43 So, IvanKaramasov is clearly a Russian name. Coder is always right
It is, but it's a character name from "The Karamazov brothers" novel. So it's likely that he is a non-English speaking, but not guaranteed
jinzo skilldrain could be solved as with "which ever card is first face up on field".
Jinzo and Skill Drain is similar to Wildheart and Skill drain, this was in a judge call from about a year or 2 ago, where I think SD was on field first and opponent summoned Wildheart but wasn't sure if Wildheart still had it's uneffected by trap effects, effect, which it didn't because SD was on field first
Judge mustache
So bagooshka is better negate than skill drain?
Idk. You can only use Bagooska's effect for 3 turns top, make your judgment from that.
@@shinyanakagawa8241 but its also a body whose effect is battle position dependent. so you can turn it off when needed until it dies unlike skill drain.
@@nutkicker12 you can turn off skill drain with mst, cyclone and twister. And you can still attack and give damage to your opponent, unlike bagooska.
@@shinyanakagawa8241 ah but its built into bagooska to turn off while your wasting deck space/an mst, etc. on your own card over your opponents card.
@@nutkicker12 Just use Tri-heart, then. No turn limit, no wasting deck space. Bagooska is good but it disables your play too, it is very situational.
nice but what is that HUGE mistake tho?
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Thinking of ruling. Genuine Question.
Based of MD. Why does the (I forget the name) big blue Umi serpent who makes it so you can only have 1 non water monster.'s effect keep going once its Inpermed. Unlike Tri-heart who's continuous eff would stop if it was. Is that just a bug or some legit ruling?
I think because is a lingerie effect attached to the card itself. Not an effect and because of that, the condition of "only 1 non water monster" is not negated
@@Juaneco-ni4sh but wouldnt stuff like Empen also not be negated from that? To me it just doesnt make sense, since most cards negated effect usually = has no effect atm. Eh ig alot can still activate em so idk, just seems weird, idk maybe it's just spite since I find the Umi control to be worse to play against then Floo, at least with Floo u can play cards
Are you sure this is how everything resolved? The effect "While "Umi" is on the field, each player can only control 1 face-up non-WATER monster." is a continuous effect that will go away if Ocean Dragon Lord - Kairyu-Shin is negated.