The TRUTH about Celebrity Julian Sands' Death that NOBODY is talking about...
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
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I met Julian Sands, in 2013. He was INCREDIBLY engaging, kind and down to Earth. This one really hit me. Rest In Peace, Julian.
He seemed like a genuinely nice guy. Tragic.
This was pleasing to read. I'm one of Julian's cousins. All of the Sands boys are solid, lovely Yorkshire lads. Jules also climbed in Kathmandu in the Himalayas and had done Kilimanjaro a few times. He was pretty much a full-blown mountaineer for decades. I think that maybe he just got complacent in what might have seemed his safe back yard.
@@Maxley..how many Sands boys are there?
@@meghanmisaliar Five. Sadly four now.
@@Maxley.. oh my. That's a big family. Such a sad story.
In the wilderness It only takes a small mistake to pay the ultimate price. R.I.P., Julian.
That's some Dad Wisdom ❤
People die easily much more in the city. Car injury and death happened daily
@@kiefekiefe9542but usually it’s negligence of the driver or one of them, not a true error
@@kiefekiefe9542there are reasons it is erroneous to compare things like you are comparing. I've read about it before, hope I can explain. In mountain climbing for example, perhaps the vast majority are seasoned and prepared climbers which would make the casualties low. And in mountain climbing YOU are usually the cause of the mistakes. You can't compare YOUR chance of being a casualty on a mountain with the chance of others becoming a casualty. There may have been a million climbers that climbed the same mountain safely before you, or maybe the mountain had NEVER been climbed. Your survival has nothing to do with either. In driving on the highways you are at the mercy of SO many things, mostly having to do with others for which you have little control, other than trying to drive defensively, IF you see it in time and IF you have room to get out of the way.
Speed, attentiveness, impairment, mechanical condition of other vehicles, medical incidents, the sun in someone's eyes, weather, road hazards, all increase the chances that you could have an accident. Mountain climbing IS dangerous and the numbers are only as low as they are because most are prepared.
How very true.
It's a great shame because not only was he a wonderful, gifted actor and charismatic man, he was also a sweet and gentle soul. It's just a shame we've lost such a wonderful person. RIP Mr Sands.
Rip velmont 😢
@jesusislight777 - 1. you need to realise we talk about him and his work as an actor....which is STILL around. 2. There is more to the world than YOUR religion. We can all believe what we want. 3. He also died in a terrible way, so yes I wish him peace now. 4. Matthew 7 - "Judge not, lest ye be judged". For a christian, you're VERY judgy.
@jesusislight777 Well, guess we will not wish you to rest in peace when you die then. lol
@@troublemcallister730I am a Jesus girl and no, she does not represent “our religion,” anymore than customers in Walmart represent all “Walmart customers.”
There is now a post mortem. His remains were scattered across the area. Their condition was consistent with animal scavenging. I think any other missing belongings were carried so far away they may never be found.
This sort of thing happens with experienced divers. Something unforeseen goes terribly wrong and they don’t make it out alive. It’s hard to accept, tragic but it happens 😓
My sincere condolences to anyone who had connection with this man or hope for a better outcome.
I think any other missing belongings were carried so far away they may never be found.
By what, I would assume the backpack was large. I would think any food would have been dug into by animals right there.
Seems odd to me.
There's literally nothing odd about this other than the fact that he was a celebrity.
The you tube channel Dearly Departed Tours with Scott Michaels goes over his autopsy. Scott is always kind in his assessments.
@Mike Sanders
Just the mere fact that when there’s obviously more to a story than the public is told , someone like you always pops up, insistent on “trusting the official govenment-sanctioned narrative”. That is soo suspect, regardless of nefarious intentions or innocence. And the fact that you can’t understand that is the only thing keeping us from pressuring the powers that (shouldn’t) be into disclosure most of the time. Sometimes it is just better to not comment!!??
there are so many homicides in america, the prime worries of hikers is now finding bodies. holly cow! you guys need to do something about this.
I think its worth noting that experience never means mistakes arent made. Pilots who are rated to fly in all weather still make mistakes and crash, people whove never had an accident in 30 years slide in the snow and hit a telephone pole. You cant let your experience trick you out of preperation for whatever it is youre doing.
It is always an awful event when someone disappears like this and should always be a sobering reminder to check and double check before you close your front door behind you
Yup. Watched a recent vid where someone with 250k subscribers experienced hypothermia.
Also the experience could be a double edge sword. 200 hikes up baldy. He may have used the same gear alot and it made him confident in gear that wasn't suitable.
It's also worth noting that accidents just happen. It is a myth we constantly tell ourselves that if we just prepare well enough we can control everything and be OK. And that just isn't true. You can do everything right and still fail.
@@tobleroonie5043yeah that's the most important part. People want the comfort of thinking they can do everything right and be safe. You can't. A plane could fall out of the sky on top of you. Things happen
@@tobleroonie5043yep we really aren’t in control of anything other that what we personally do. Extraneous circumstances can negatively affect us at home. I can fall in my tub and break my neck tonight. I can trip and fall just walking down my driveway with the same results and a tree branch can crush me as I walk around our property. Accidents happen all the time regardless of who we are, what we are wearing and what we are doing.
I’ve hike the ridge above Baldy Bowl many times, (used to live in Rancho Cucamonga) and I do not believe for a second, that he got lost. The ridge above Baldy Bowl is steep on the West side, down into Goode Canyon. There is a plane crash site in that canyon, that people go see, and I’ve seen people sliding in the scree in summer. If he hiked that trail even twice, he would have known that was Goode Canyon (it’s fairly memorable), and not deliberately gone down there. There are no trails in Goode Canyon. However, there are places on that ridge that a serious misstep or fall could cause you to tumble down into the canyon (especially on the downhill). I almost fell once myself. While you might not fall far in summer, in icy winter conditions, you could fall quite far. What I believe is the most likely scenario, is that the weather turned bad (whiteouts are not uncommon) the trail was icy, and he fell, tumbling down into the canyon. The winds up there can be fierce. I’ve been up there in May with 70mph winds, on a day without a storm. Blowing snow could have obscured the trail as well, and he could have stepped off trail. That canyon is filled with boulders and trees, any of which, could result in a fatal injury. If he was seriously injured and unable to climb out, he may have succumbed to hypothermia. As to his equipment, it is not at all uncommon to see people hike that trail in winter with microspikes. It’s a popular, well-trodden trail on a good winter day, but an unexpected storm can make that trail pure hell, particularly if heavy snow and blowing winds hide the trail. You wouldn’t expect him to have a super heavy jacket if he was going uphill (although he likely had one in his backpack), as it’s hard work getting up that trail and the exertion keeps you unexpectedly warm. If he had an ice ax, that would have most likely either been thrown away from his body, or attached to the outside of the pack. He also could have been carrying crampons on the outside of the pack. As to the pack itself not being found….this does not surprise me either. Falling climbers have had jackets, shoes and packs stripped off them during falls. In addition, there are bears in the Baldy / Goode Canyon areas, and on a strenuous hike like this, he would have carried snacks in his pack, so a bear most likely found the pack, and carried it away, and that could have occurred anytime between when he went missing, and June. If that is the case, it may never be found. Many experienced hikers and climbers have had to be rescued on Baldy. What I think is the most likely scenario, is that the day started out beautiful with good weather, and he started out appropriately equipped for the conditions that existed at that time. Baldy, like many mountains can have far different weather than the valley below and conditions can change quickly. An afternoon storm probably came in, and either due to icy conditions/wind or an imperceptible trail/whiteout, he fell, which resulted in him tumbling down into Goode Canyon.
On my first group hike up that trail one of the guys who had hiked it numerous times mentioned to me as we got on that narrow ridge that cornices were a problem with a heavy snow and that it would not be hard, especially in a white-out situation, to step right through one. I found that ridge section intimidating enough even in the summer. I second you on the winds up there.
*Thank you for this detailed opinion. I agree with you. Tragic accident under*
*conditions that could not have been foreseen quickly. RIP Julian as you fly*
*high with the Angels.* 💫
Me and my friends always turn around at the peak and come back through the ski hut trail because we dont think its worth it to come down the back bone🫣 sadly every year someone slips and dies up there.
I'll honestly never understand even experienced hikers going on hikes alone that are even a little dangerous. Even more, why they don't carry those GPS locator devices ESP when alone, so that if and when something happens, you can at least be found. It's not like he couldn't afford one. They aren't big.
If people love to hike these places and admit it's dangerous & KNOW many people have to be rescued.... Why then do they NOT think about THOSE people at least, who now have to put their life as risk to go out & search for people who knowingly put themselves in danger & then basically turned off the "lights" so to speak, by not even carrying a GPS locator device. Like, it just strikes me as extremely selfish to not even help the recuers out by carrying at the VERY LEAST a way for them to just locate you if need be, rather than have them have to blindly search.
If something happens to the rescuers while looking for you (not specifically, just in general), wouldn't you/they feel awful? That's if they find you in time... But then to later find out some poor child is now without a dad or mom or a spouse is now a widower, a set of parents are without a child... All because someone went hiking in a known dangerous area alone, without proper equipment or Gps locator. It just sounds so selfish to me.. All for what? To say you did it alone and lived? Big. Deal. No one will care 20 yrs from now.
Get lost, fall, break something & have to be rescued & someone loses their life over it, no one will forget that though.
I just feel bad for those who willingly put their life on the line to help save someone who probably didn't even take the bare minimum of equipment to help THEM help YOU.
Anyway, just my thoughts, as someone who knows a very kind hearted rescuer & have heard some stories that make me sad for rescuers.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge of hiking and this area.
May you be safe in all of your hiking adventures. 🙏🏽
RIP for all hikers that have died doing what they love.
But, remember rescue workers are risking their lives when they have to go out in extreme conditions.
I fell in love with Julian Sands when he played an Aussie photographer in The Killing Fields. It wasn't a huge part, but he just seemed like such a quiet, gentle person, and of course he was beautifully tall, tanned, blonde, and handsome. I've seen him in many films, but that one is my favourite. He will be missed by so many. RIP Julian
Room with a view was my favourite….rest in peace dear Julian
I share your sentiment. I love this man. Rest in peace. I even had a dream about him shortly after he vanished. It was as if I got to talk to him one time even though I never met him.
Great movie that showed the deadly results of leftism/collectivism.
@@dherman0001 The Khmer Rouge were more than "leftists". Pol Pot was a totalitarian dictator, who killed millions of his own people. He killed all of the educated people, who he considered the "elites": teachers, scientists, doctors, business owners, anyone he considered a threat. He put children in charge of spying for the regime, and killing people who disobeyed orders or spoke to anyone.
I tend to think the weather caught him off guard, and maybe he fell, got disoriented, and hypothermic and started removing clothing layers. It's a strange phenomenon that hypothermia causes you to feel too hot, even though you're freezing. Paradoxical undressing, they call it. Maybe he had removed his pack during that delirium. Or stopped for a break, removed his pack, and then fell.
The scattering of his bones was likely predation. There are big cats up there.
We will likely never know. I'm glad his remains were found tho, to offer his family some solace and closure.
Definitely what happened, weather came in that wknd. There had been a bunch of fatalities on Baldy over the past 7-8 yrs nearly all bc of icy cold weather related
Lots of mountain lions in that area.
I think he was well aware of conditions and forecasts and that he enjoyed the challenge of adversity using minimal or inadequate equipment. He probably felt that sturdier gear, warmer clothing and emergency supplies just weighed him down. He was a bit prideful?
After watching a lot of I Shouldnt Be Alive episodes one guess is he maybe had a fall that separated him from his gear. And maybe he was hurt and sought shelter in the canyon but the conditions go to him in the end.
I would think everyone knows of paradoxical undressing by now.. When it comes to hypothermia, you should get worried once you stop shaking.. That goes so fast in freezing water, but there you also start having problems swimming in a mater of minutes, since coordination of limbs becomes hard and you lose your feelings of them..
Speaking from personal experience..
RIPJulian Sands. A Room With a View inspired me to authenticity. What a great actor, and so handsome.
He was the nicest person you'd ever meet. 😢
I read that book for the first time this week. I thought of Julian every moment. ❤ Rest in eternal peace, Julian.
@@supertenor2767 Glad you got to meet him. Nice memory to have ❤
Indeed, in A Room With A View, he was stunningly gorgeous. The sort of physical beauty that stops traffic.
@@lorchid23 😃 You wouldnt say that if he wasnt an actor.
One important fact not mentioned is that Julian Sands was 65 at the time of his death. I am 67 and can attest that the strength and physical resilience of most of my peers started waning at the end of our 50's, a process which accelerates during our 60's. Furthermore, mid-60's is a time when some (not all!!!) people begin to develop the early mental effects of aging. If someone had been a social drinker, a smoker, a person who pushed themselves hard and spent years not getting enough rest, then the mental effects of aging can even be pronounced in one's mid-60's. Even though I work in a mentally demanding field and do very well, I have also started using the pill minders, the lists, the little reminders that people need as they age. I must have 20 reminders and alarms on my phone now. Perhaps he forgot to check the weather report, or didn't realize he was leaving home without vitally important gear, or missed his well-travelled trail due to exhaustion which caught him off guard. Being in denial about his limitations might have also contributed. How many young and fit athletes become "weekend warriors" as they age and pay the price when they try to emulate the feats of their youth? Rest in Peace. I hope his passing was as simple as stopping to rest and then falling asleep from hypothermia never realizing the danger.
There is a definite disconnect as I age between my brain and my body. My brain keeps writing checks which my body can no longer cash. I agree with you, it happens to all of us as we hit our 50's. Our pride gets on the way of reason.
This is a very kind and thought out message to write. I hope lots of people see it and keep it in mind
Please understand that needing 20 alarms to remind of things is not normal aging. You should definitely follow up with your physicians for evaluation. I work in finance and see many people from middle to old age. What you are describing, in my experience, is not common.
I'm an RN specializing in mental health and geriatrics. Making a list and writing things down is normal. Having 20 reminders and alarms on your phone is not.
It sounds to me like you are in the very early stages of dementia, and perhaps have Mild Cognitive Impairment. I strongly suggest you see a geriatrician ASAP and get tested.
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I had no idea he had passed. 🥺 My heart really goes out to his family & friends. Such a tragic loss to the acting community. A truly talented performer. At least he went out doing something he really enjoyed. 🙏 Rest in peace Mr. Sands.
Well luckily his family and friends have their answers now. The Wilderness IS truly Wild
R.i.p to the woman who slipped at Baldy. She was always full of energy and a super fit woman. She was always hiking and had the most postive attitude. We followed each other on social media for many years. Just like Julian...her posts are filled with her hiking Baldy and in the snow. So she had experience. Accidents just happen. We can lose our energy or miss our steps and trip or fall. Its also scary when we get that hikers high where you just want to keep going to reach the top and just dont want to stop no matter what. Beware. Know your own strength. Know when to turn back. 🙏🏼
I grew up at the foothills of baldly.
I've had that hikers high often, I grew up on the Appalachian.
There's no excuse for hiking alone. If he'd had a hiking partner or group, this would not have happened. Why dance around the root cause just because we're talking about a minor celebrity?
@lindaschad9734 lol I hiked the entire AT alone. I met ppl but I spent most my time alone.
The girl who would take pictures in bathing suits on peaks?…
Your professionalism in learning lessons from Mr. Sands’ death is commendable and it can save lives. I am a former law enforcement trainer and we routinely reviewed line of duty deaths; not to fix blame, but rather to ensure that other officers learned from these incidents and thus maybe- just maybe- they could remember what happened, do something different in a similar scenario, and come home to their families.
We did a similar thing in the USAF: we studied aircraft mishaps in detail, to learn from them, so they don’t happen again.
Very wise. It feels extra rubbish when someone loses their life when in the act of trying to save another’s life. ❤
I met Julian in 2011 at the Calgary Comic & Entertainment Expo. Although I was never into "comics", I have adored Julian as an actor in such great films as, Room With A View, Boxing Helena and The Killing Fields. I was fortunate to meet him and chat with him briefly. He was very kind and generous with his time. He allowed me to share how his character in "Room" inspired me to study Philosophy. I would imagine the reason he agreed to appear at this event was to check out our beautiful Rocky Mountains near Banff and Canmore. I am still saddened by his death, but am glad he died doing what he loved to do, hike. Godspeed Julian. You will never be forgotten.
@AMW71 - What a lovely, well-worded tribute. Wonderful you had the good fortune to meet Julian in person. I admired him very much as a very fine actor. RIP Julian.
Southern California was hit with unusual snow falls that broke all kinds of records. Not too long after Julian Sands' disappearance, the first ever documented blizzard hit Los Angeles County. I'm guessing that Mr. Sands' did not anticipate the dangerous conditions that he found himself in and was overwhelmed. May he rest in peace.
Although you may be right; you really have to be careful with the labels they give storms. Often they are a linked with latitude and for example, blizzards don’t happen above certain latitudes and hurricanes don’t happen below (or above) certain latitudes, they are then called tropical storms. This makes the same powerful storm have different titles for the same destructive elements.
@@Timbo6669 OK and? California doesn’t usually get hurricanes well do you want to take a guess what happened in Southern California? also around the same time that Julian Sands was still missing? They got a hurricane and an earthquake on the same day.
@@Timbo6669 Doesn't really matter what the title is: an experienced hiker would know to look at NOAA or other quality weather data. In 2 minutes, they could see a large series of storms were forecast with LOTS of precipitation and wind for that day and week. No truly "experienced hiker" would venture out in those conditions, especially on Baldy where there's some challenging terrain.
@@eh3477 I hate to say it but someone with little experience would check the weather forecast also, which makes things even shadier.
He wasn't planning to go through that area and conditions were worse than ever so unsurprising he would not have that gear.
One of the people who found him said was that Julian was "dressed like a ninja." All dark clothing. That wouldn't help in locating him either. Something to consider when buying and selecting the clothes you hike in. I hope you and your subscribers get locating devices too. Since they are available, it should be considered a piece of equipment as important as your boots.
And, never hike alone.
"Hunter orange" is not an arbitrary color, any more than "school-bus yellow". These colors have the highest visiblility for the greatest distance in the lowest visibility conditions. Plus, they are relatively rare in nature and stand out in most environments.
Totally!!!
I typically wear a most "obnoxious" color of clothing when hiking solo. I tell my kids the reason for this is that my body can be found more easily. (Eye roll) I also inform family/friends of my destination and expected return time.
@@bob7975 or that new fluorescent green construction crews use now.
I was in all-girls private Catholic high school in the late 80's and early 90's, and me and my (not entirely unpretentious) friends from both my school and the local all-BOYS private Catholic schools became obsessed with Julian Sands for some reason; we would make big pots of jasmine tea and then curl up together with our antique teacups in a big puppy pile on my friend J's bed (he had his own floor in his mom's house) and drink tea and watch Julian Sands flicks all weekend long. I also have one-degree of separation from Julian, but unwilling to share details on that as it involves family and post-dates the high school obsession. As I've aged, my affection for him and his acting has never waned, and when he disappeared, it felt like a kick in the teeth. Such a sweet, lovely, modest man did not deserve this.Godspeed, Julian - you gave a random group of art-freak high schoolers hours and hours of cozy shared pleasure and memories that last to this day.
Thank you for sharing your story. I recall watching A Room with a View as a teen, and being smitten by Julian Sands. I'm sorry that you've lost a relative...
On a side note, you painted such a vivid picture of your high school days, I can easily imagine it.
If you ever write a book on it, please let me know 😂
Also, can you tell me the movies that you guys watched together ?
A fine, sweet tribute to Mr. Sands.
Sweet memories, I enjoyed your comment even though I've not heard of Mr. Sands until now.
@potatovendingmachine - Such a sweet tribute to Julian and interesting details too - you have talent for writing descriptively. Write more!
Pretentious twaddle.
Hiking alone is dangerous. Having a buddy is much safer. RIP Mr Sands
It's not unusual to hike alone in Britain, it's very much a minority past time, there isn't the culture there like there is in North America. People will walk footpaths close to towns or villages but when you get into the more challenging stuff you are often unable to find others to participate with you. The challenge and solitude of solo hiking gets under your skin after a time, it's like a little addiction. I've no idea if Julian started off hiking in Britain but I recognised he had the solo hiking thing that some pick up there.
Unless that buddy is the one who pushes you off the mountain
@@Sometimes_Always I grew up partly in the UK and partly in the Canadian Rockies, I'm aware of the risks of solo winter hiking in alpine conditions. I'm at a loss on what your safety lecture was supposed to achieve though. I can't see it helping Julian and I generally like being alive so didn't hike in winter in the Rockies outside of hunting trips accompanied.
@@jelkel25 Disagree. Hiking, climbing, mountaineering are all very popular. There are plenty of clubs and well known routes and locations for those getting out and about themselves. Conditions here tend to be more benign though and of course the areas involved are much smaller. I believe Julian grew up in the Yorkshire Dales, some of the best walking country in the UK.
@@nicolad8822 Well then we'll have to disagree.
The storms that happened during that period of time were far and beyond anything that would normally occur on those mountains. Since 2 very experienced mountaineers lost their lives at the same time.. nobody knew the severity of the storms that hit during that winter.. even where I live in the eastern Sierras.
This. This past winter was far more severe than average and we got rounds of storms that cut off the local mountain communities on multiple occasions. He probably expected typical SoCal mountain weather, and not the pounding we got. As someone mentioned above, there's also the possibility of predators scattering his remains and belongings, so it's hard to form any kind of opinion about what he may or may not have had in his pack.
The high winds, cold temps, and heavy precipitation were in the forecast for that time period. Wind alone could be deadly on those ridges. Very hard to understand how anyone described as an "experienced hiker" would venture out in alpine areas in winter, without spending 5 minutes to check a good weather report. And any "experienced hiker" would also turn around immediately when they saw serious clouds and weather turning bad. RIP JS.
Very hard to understand how someone described as an "experienced hiker" would venture off on an alpine winter hike in an area known to have some challenging terrain..... without spending minutes to check a detailed weather report! There were cold temps, high winds, and precipitation in the forecast for that day and week. The winds alone could have killed. For those saying he should've had a GPS device, it's unlikely a search would have started in that weather. Very sad news; RIP Mr Sands.
@@eh3477 I think it's like those local folks who get taken by local wildlife while looking right at, they just get so used to being around the danger that they don't take it half as seriously anymore as they should.
The few mishaps I've had in the wilderness were always in areas I've visited dozens of times, and because I was lulled into complacency. I wonder if that may have been a factor.
A way out theory is he might have been shot and his gear stolen, or had a heart attack or stroke but probably like you said, complacency. There are so many gun nuts in USA.
I thought the same. Could have been bushwacked by someone or heart attack or well, lots of possibilities @@earnold1896
@@earnold1896yeah that is absurd. The gun issues are bad but you're brainwashed even more so if you think a body without a gunshot wound was shot. If that was how he died, that would be much more obvious on a body no matter what happened in this case.
@@earnold1896or a mountain lion..nah must have been a gun nut or space alien cuz wild animals don't hunt prey in the dead of winter.? Maybe the illuminati 😂
@@SuperCaliforniaBarbi You would be surprised how many people in America have been shot in wilderness areas. Maybe not so much in the snow or mountainous terrain but you never know. As I said more likely complacency.
I'm a huge fan of Julian Sands since I saw him in "Room With A View" and the excellent less known "Impromptu", I was devastated when I heard about his demise this summer, fortunately at that point he was found. And the only consolation is, he perished doing something he seemed to be passionate about. I would go for the theory he got desoriented and fell in the canyon or got swepped by a avalanche. RIP Sweet Prince.
naked lunch & leaving las vegas, for me. very sad. rip
Ah, I had forgotten about Impromptu! What a great movie. And an epically amazing cast.
Such a shame. Out of all his films, I really liked him in "Rose Red". I hope he didn't suffer and he rests in peace. He will be missed.
Loved that movie too.
People should not hike alone
He may have had a heart attack or cardiac arrest and nothing could be done and he died on the mountain. Men of a certain age, no matter how fit they are, or how experienced climber/ hiker, should be careful because these things can happen without warning at any time.
*Yes...I agree. My father died playing tennis at 53 from heart attack. He had*
*just had his yearly physical and Dr. said he was "In great shape." Thank you!* 💫
The only trouble with that theory is that the pile of clothes separate from the body suggests paradoxical undressing, which suggests a death from hypothermia. He most likely fell or got lost.
@@jamesbowman6925 *Good point*
*James!*
I agree with your warning about older climbers and walkers.
I was a very experienced walker and climber. But, I had a cardiac arrest at the age of 61 in my partners home. Luckily, I was resuscitated immediately, but I still had several more relapses over that night and the next day. I was fitted with a Pacemaker, left hospital two days later, and have been well ever since..
@@billbhein2949 *Wow very scary Bill*
*Happy to hear that you are now well!*
One of the reason that makes you one of my favorite story tellers is that you seem to honestly care and have compassion for the people in your stories!!! Thanks for another good one Kyle!!
I absolutely agree! I like that he is a trail blazer and hikes in areas he talks about! This is why I watch his videos.
I care about Sands, my husband used to date sands and knows him even better than I do. I’m also a great storyteller, well not as good as my uncle Ned. Uncle Ned is the greatest storytellers on Gods green earth! In God we trust!
Did his wife and children know?@@michael-4k4000
My Japanese friend met Mr Sands at a Japanese Airport departing for the UK. This was 1990. He was the nicest, kindest person and signed an autograph.
It always gives me a shock when a celebrity so familiar is suddenly found dead. Sands brought a unique personality to all of the roles I saw him in, but I realize I seldom think of any actor's life outside of his role. To see him now in any production will give me a haunting feeling, knowing that up ahead of him is a dreadful end. May he be resting now in peace and joy in the love of God.
Rode my horse up into the mountains of southern Oregon 4 to 5 days a week. Doing so when it was snowing was very different. Some of the familiar trails and paths became nearly indistinguishable fairly quick. Beautiful but eerie as well. I mostly rode alone. Not easy to find others to ride with. Definitely saved the exploring and creating new trails for the sunny days. Had an encounter with 2 bears one evening. After that I realized how foolish it was on my part to ride so far up alone and leaving no itinerary. Was rarely any cell service available. Its easy to get a bit too casual when you're in your zone and things are so blissful. Glad for his family and loved ones that Mr Sands' body was recovered. He likely got disoriented when the landmarks and trails became covered by so much snow. I hope he wasn't frightened. RIP
I appreciate the way you covered this tragedy. When things like this happen, I find myself feeling equally frustrated with media outlets saying it's a freak accident and could never have been prevented, and the armchair critics who heap scorn on the person and act like they would never make such mistakes. The reality always seems to be somewhere in between. It's usually human error...but it's errors that even the most experienced adventurers sometimes make.
Thanks for this update on Julian Sands. After he was found not very much else was said other than his death was "undetermined". I followed this from the first day he went missing which was actually the 13 th January 2023. It was Friday the 13th I swear to God. There had been bad weather in that area before he went on this hike and I thought he just wanted to go for a brief hike to get out of the house. I can't speculate. But from what he was equipped with it seems he didn't intend to end up in this kind of danger. Anything could've happened. He might have even suffered a heart attack or mild stroke that disoriented him in his surroundings. He wasn't young anymore. Neither am I and I know how quick an older person can start suffering from hypothermia. His backpack he might have just dropped it when he got tired. I wish he hadn't gone alone or had at least carried one of those things to track his wearabouts. RIP Julian Sands. He was a lovely man.
Wonder if it wos a full moon! 🤔
Like, another sacr!f!ce!?
You're nuts, Zoe.
He was probably lulled into a false sense of security being on the summit so many times and his experience mountaineering. Also, its proximity to civilization. I live a short distance from there and it's trippy that in just a short drive from LA, you can be in wilderness. You can see downtown from the summit. That year was memorable too for the storms that came through. California had its first ever recorded blizzards in the mountains. He went up between back to back storms, so, a normally treacherous route under ideal conditions would be even worse with ice & snow. Baldy isn't known for requiring high degrees of technical mountaineering "know how" to hike it. So, they don't have condition reports other than what's normally on the 11'clock news. I think Julian underestimated the conditions and didn't realize it until it was too late. The first storm turned the route he took into something that normally doesn't happen there, and he brought the wrong equipment.
Experience is not how many times you've hiked, it's how prepared you are for any condition you may encounter.
I hiked that area of the San Gabriel mountains all of the time when I lived in Los Angeles. It was pretty incredible to have a peak over 10,000 feet in Los Angeles County and many other peaks over 8,000 feet along the same ridgeline.
How do I love Julian Sands and live in California and follow mountaineering and still not know that he had passed?!?! RIP
i've always loved his work and i didn't know till now either. very sad
The Ori are eternal! Hallowed are the Ori! In all seriousness, he will be missed, fantastic actor, RIP
He was a fine actor. I’m guessing he was a decent guy to as nobody has been out bad mouthing him. People like to swipe at their pet hates when they aren’t around to defend themselves. But not for Julian ❤
Same here. I had no idea until I saw this video. Which is odd because I watch vids on hiking disappearances all the time and never saw or heard any mention of him going missing.
Not sure how you missed it. It’s was all over the major news stations. So very sad as I absolutely loved his work. He was a good man!❤
I have two favorite movies. First is the 1979. "Apocalypse Now", and 1987's "A Room with a View." Two completely different movies but I love both for different reasons. I was so completely saddened by this. He is half of the reason why I love that movie so much - the other half would be Helena Bonham Carter. RIP Julian Sands.
The day he went missing I thought, "Why on Earth would anyone go hike Mt Baldy on that day, when the Southland had been pummeled by historic storms and rain/snow???!!!" The coming terrible weather had been reported for days in advance. It was insanity. RIP Julian.
I think this just goes to show that no matter how experienced you are, you are always at the mercy of mother nature. The weather and the mountain rule your destiny!
I’ve noticed that with Cave Diving: almost all the incidents involve professionals.
@@TheQueenOfShebayeah after a certain point it's just odds. It's not feasible to set up the safeguards they'd need for every dive with the number of dives they do and the number of risks they're exposed to, and realistically there aren't even enough divers qualified to support them anyway
I grew up in a town at the base of Mount. Baldy and now live in the mountains to the east, Mount Baldy has always been dangerous, there are areas where ice is year-round and many have lost their lives, this year we had a winter of blizzard conditions, record breaking snowfall, Jan 2023 was the start of all of this, he faced weather conditions that day that were unprecedented, unexpected, treacherous and deadly, the outcome was heartbreaking. This is SoCal, we don't expect 7 feet of snow in 2 days, just such an unfortunate heartbreaking tragedy.
And, the weather is so different from the ocean to the city to the mountains. We tend to assume we will be warm enough when it can get so cold in the mountains.
I grew up in the foothills there. That first mountain you showed is not Mt Baldy. It is Cucamonga Peak. I've hiked to its summit as well as Mt San Antonio (Mt Baldy) and hiked the Devils Backbone. Most people don't take into consideration how dangerous the area is. It is mostly a wilderness area. It has an abundance of wildlife. Black bear, cougars, timber rattlers, scorpions, big horn sheep, mountain goats, California Condors, and of course meth heads. The rocky terrain and changing weather have claimed many lives. We always hiked it over prepared for anything. Many do not.
Edit: I've actually tried hiking up Goode Canyon in perfect fall weather and had to turn around because it was impassable due to debris from rock slides and tree falls. Not a "good" canyon to ascend.
The SB Mtns are no joke. 10k feet doesn't seem so high compared to other ranges, but the relief is nearly the entire 10k feet, not like in Colorado where the hike beings at 5k feet. It's maybe 1k feet at the base of Baldy, so it's just like climbing a 14k foot peak in CO.
Loved Mr. Sands in Warlock; may he rest in peace. Warlock is definitely a top 10 movie from my childhood!
Yes, so true. One of my "top ten" favorit movies
Absolutely loved Warlock! The first movie I watched with him in it.
Id like to point out that we dont know what exactly Julians purpose for being up there was. Persoanlly, given the circumstances regarding the lack of gear he was carrying, I think he was trying to push himself for maybe some kind of personal speed record. Its pretty normal for people whove done a route as many times as Julian had to begin to test themselves on it. I personally think Julian was trying to move quickly with minimal gear and made a tragic mistake. Julain knew what kind of gear he was supposed to have in those conditions, so I feel like the choice for microspikes over crampons was probably due to trying to minimize weight. I grew up hiking Mt Baldy, and as a 28 year old ive climbed and hiked most of it in every season. Ive skiied the bowl and some of the surrounding back country. Baldy is an extremely popular route for speed records and testing your mettle. The current speed record is like an hour and ah half.
SAR people have died with probably the best gear available . A simple slip n fall or getting nailed by falling ice is brutal
I believe that is a sound theory.
I don't think Julian was the type of person who cared about petty speed records. Kinda defeats the purpose of enjoying the peaceful solitude of the mountain. People need to stop overthinking this and take it for what it obviously is. He was heavily experienced and probably hiked the mountain without crampons numerous times before and didn't think he would need them. Experienced hikers and mountaineers overestimate their abilities and underestimate the weather all the time.
@@unropednope4644 if someone’s done a route over 200 times they’re gonna be pushing themselves just naturally. “Petty” is not the word I would’ve used. Personal records mean a lot to people.
Do you have ANY evidence to support this conclusion? Like...any at all?
Hard to believe we'll never see him on screen again. Underrated actor for sure.
Sadly, we all make mistakes, sometimes due to overconfidence. Sad that anyone should pass away doing an activity that you love but it happens.
Everyone can make a mistake. If we can accept Ueli Steck fell off a mountain we can understand how Julian could too.
Truly anything could have happened
I am afraid to be one of those people who goes hiking and things like war breaks out. I'd rather either 1.not know current status, or 2. for it to be stopping
Yeah...euli steck was climbing a mountain twice the size...
@@iamkyros2233 and he was 100 times the climber Julian was.
Some observations no one asked for: Climbing Baldy 250x likely isn't true. It's just too time-consuming, not even an unemployed actor wouldn't have that much time. Also, it would become too boring. They would find something else to hike long before wasting so much time there.
The wimpy crampons aren't too terrible (you could bring an extra pair), but the low top sneakers are ridiculous, not waterproof, no ankle support. Because of deep snow, frostbite and sprained ankles.... Then there is apparent absence of snowshoes, hiking alone, and hiking in a winter storm. This is nuts. It's a formula for disaster, all together. This isn't fair to the authorities who have to deal with your unforced errors. Also, don't do this if you have kids. This is up there in risk like hang gliding, reckless motorcycle riding, etc.
The winter of 2023 was pretty intense in a lot of places, even in California. Maybe he didn't take that into account. He might have been expecting a normal California winter which it certainly was not.
And then dozens of people were put at risk looking for him along with thousands of dollars being spent for a person they already knew was dead.
I don’t get it. I would help search for someone with a chance of surviving but looking for a body count me out.
This was my thought as well... parts of california had record snow levels last winter. I wonder if he had more survival gear in his pack.
@@HiFiAwardTour would you care about thousands of dollars being spent on a search for your loved one?
I understand that’s how searches always go upfront but once they knew he was dead there was literally no point in paying search crews@@joeylujan3173
Just my opinion dude. The guy fucked up and he payed for it. The taxpayers shouldn’t have to as well.
You never hike alone. RIP Julian, I'll miss you.
right, Missing 411 and always carry an 'activated' PLB. Always check weather prior to setting out. And what the hell? in winter conditions besides? He put SAR volunteers at RISK - Just plain SELFISH !
If i didn't hike alone, i'd never hike. There's just nobody else around me, i live off grid in the wilderness.
WHY?!@@rustymustard7798
Alone.
We were hiking the John Muir in 1976 and hit a blizzard up there at the end of August. I was the only one that grew up in the cold country and refused to go on and then diverted to Devils Post Pile until the storm passed. We were outfitted for rain but not snow. It passed in a couple of days and were able to complete our hike.
I’m not a big hiker these days because of a spinal cord injury and I live vicariously through your videos but this one was really close to home. Literally too, Mt. baldy is my backyard. His disappearance leading to his death still doesn’t sit right with me
I’m not a spiritual person, I don’t really believe in ghosts and things of that nature. But there’s something evil in that mountain. Early in 2023 I was with my partner in the mountains at night to smoke as we often did and I’m still not sure what but we saw something. We hadn’t smoked yet and weren’t high. In the darkness something moved just out of eye sight, the temperature plummeted, and you could feel the evil in the air. We both saw and felt the same thing and without saying a word I started the car and we peeled out of there. I don’t go smoke up in baldy anymore.
There’s also a grave site off one of the turn offs up a ways off the road. It looks like a crypt underground that has been filled in with concrete. There’s also a really bad feeling there at night that you just can’t explain.
I appreciate your response!! Missing backpack? Autopsy not done yet or complete? Something is mysterious
@@robertwasinger8193 exactly! There’s several items that should be there’s for decades if not centuries like leather items. It’s wild watching this today because the Canam missing person project just talked about this case yesterday too. If you’re from
The area of my baldy you also know that it’s a very common knowledge that there is cult activity in those hills
I believe you. You listened to that 6th sense. GO !...Probably, what saved you, was that there were TWO of you. These wilderness demons specialise in the Art of ONE....and they are very good at what they do.
Perhaps take a break from 🪔
@@user-eh3zv1ex5o I definitely won’t go up there alone anymore and I’m hesitant to ever go at night again even with company. Again, I’m really reserved about things that are extraterrestrial but when we got home my partner pulled out her tarot cards and all the cards that came up were about evil and trickery
I love that you dare be honest and not just say what people wants to hear! And you do it respectfully ! 👍🏻
From day 1 of him missing I literally read everything, watched everything, and prayed. Idk why but Julian sands made a big impression on me. Maybe it was his beautiful long blond hair back in the day or just that he seemed like he would be a down to earth guy. When I heard someone was missing and they said the name I knew exactly who it was. (Sometimes I forget names). My heart broke each day they didn’t find him. It’s so sad here we are comfortable on the couch watching a video about him, while he was freezing, scared and alone. The people on these videos go through real pain, real fear many of us will never experience (thank goodness) a real feeling of complete aloneness, real regret they would do anything to change there predicament they are in at the moment they slowly die alone!! 😢 R.I.P. Julian sands
My family and I always liked his acting, especially in "Arachnophobia," it was filmed in one of our favorite little vacation towns, "Cambria" CA. WE were so saddened when the news said he was lost in the mountains. 2023 was the worst Winter weather I have ever seen, rain, flooding and snow!! really deep snow! Julian, I believe, was caught off guard.. WE all know that hiking in any Winter climate is different each Winter..RIP Julian and to the family,, WE are so sorry you lost him! WE feel WE lost him too!
He likely wasn't expecting the amount of snow and ice encountered, most years in the recent past Mt. Baldy does not received a large amount of snow but last winter here in Southern California we received the most extreme winter conditions in the past 100 years or so I believe so he was likely not expecting the kind of conditions that he ran into having hike the trail in the previous years
One thing I've seen over and over with competent experienced climbers and hikers is a kind of complacency. They've done the climb a dozen times or more, and they didn't need those crampons last time, or they never used that ice axe and since this was going to be a quick day hike, they don't want them weighing them down. I don't think anyone was expecting the storm to be that severe that day, and it's easy to see how Julian might think he'd be fine just this once. It's also possible that he dumped gear to lighten load. We've all been surprised by weather shifts, and we've all thought "I was fine last time, it's fine this time, too." Even the most prepared hiker can make a deadly mistake.
Well said !!!!
It's the same human problem with most driving accidents being within a mile of the drivers home. Familiarity breeds contempt.
Thank you for insight.
I live in Salt Lake City, with loads of challenging ski/hiking off piste areas. It amazes me that every skiing or hiking season, a ‘seasoned’ ‘veteran’ back country skier of hiker who loves challenging hikes loses their life. A few years ago, a veteran backcountry skiing couple left their toddler with a carer, and set off to ski off piste. They left without beacons, basic avalanche gear, or GPS and SOS devices. They had basically their skis and granola bars. They were swept under an avalanche and lost their lives. This was an experienced couple who led others on backcountry skiing adventures. So sad.
Hello.
I have seen your video and you certainly give a fairly detailed description of the event.
We live in the heart of the Swiss Alps, with direct views of the Eiger and other nearby mountains.
I can tell you that every year, whatever the season, misfortunes like these happen.
Situations that are taken for granted completely become a great risk to your survival.
I have encountered many people in extreme situations, whether due to lack of preparation, inappropriate clothing, no route plan or emergency plan, no checking of the weather, etc.
As in all sports and even more so in mountaineering, confidence and experience are a double-edged sword.
The Mountain rarely forgives and a small mistake can be paid dearly.
Very good coverage of this incident, factual, respectful, and a warning to others.
Well said.
I wonder if the phrase "familiarity breeds contempt" is applicable here. You climb the same mountain 200 times, maybe it starts to feel a little too safe and familiar. I'm sure we've all had the experience of stumbling on some unexpected hazard on a path we're highly accustomed to. Or thinking, "oh I won't take that, I'm only going local and it'll just be extra weight to carry".
I am shocked as I didn't know that Julian Sands had died doing what he loved. Kyle I agree with what you have said about Julian death, it makes sense. RIP and my Condolences to Julian Sands family and friends. 😔💔
Hiking alone regardless of experience, age, body condition, location, or number of times hicked is never a good idea to hike alone. Yes, your odds are better if experienced Etc... but all it takes is one or a combination of things that end in catastrophe. I myself came close to my end during just a day hike by myself in the Verdugo mountains in So Cal where I had hiked some times before. I am a few years younger than Sands and probably not quite as good a shape. I was very fortunate to have worked my way out of what could have been my end. Hiking alone is a wonderful experience, while I don't recommend it, Be prepared for the worst-case scenario possible, and try to take a route easier than what you may want to if alone, yes I know some of us like to push the limits and challenge are selves and that is sadly why some never make it back. R.I.P., Julian.
I'm very saddened for his family he passed away but he was where he loved and they found him so it's the best outcome of a tragic situation. Personally it's where I would want to have my final hours if I could choose. Thank you to the reluctant hikers who found him.
This reminds me of Hua Davis, an experienced backcountry hiker who died of hypothermia in the Adirondacks in 2016. She wore draw-string fleece sweatpants and sneakers to summit MacNaughton one of the high peaks in the winter. Inexplicable.
I can't even say how much it sucks that Julian Sands died. Only the good die young.
He was 65. I guess that’s still young to some people…or you are saying he wasn’t good.
"Only the good die young". Where the hell did you pull that out of? Go watch Active Self Protection or Donut Operator if you think bad people live long rosy lives.
@@bcamplite621 It's a damn Billy Joel song, lol.
@@bcamplite621it’s a saying as old as the hills, and so is saying “as old as the hills” for that matter😅 I grew up with it, saying it plenty of times myself…perhaps it’s not used much anymore?💁🏻♀️
@@augustsnowfall5189 lol I must be too young to know it
I don't know what it was about Julian but I remember being 10 watching him on Arachnophobia and some 30 years later he still stuck with me as a memorable person and I had only seen him in one or two films. When I heard he had gone missing it really hit home. Baldy was a life changer for me. Where Julian met his end is where symbolicly I met my beginning as an adult. This mountain represented strength to me. I set out to climb it and fully expected to bail out at some point but I found it manageable, took it one small bite at a time and actually accomplished my goal. For a first time summit this was incredibly motivating for me as I went the same trail as Julian and it was extremely difficult. Since I have climbed it no less than 15 times. I live in Orange County and Baldy is visible from everywhere in the county. At any moment when I feel like I am struggling at some task, I can look up and remember the summit. Since then I went with UA-camr Jeven Dovey a few months before Julian went missing, we went up there to document and observe the war planes that have crashed into the mountain. I also went back and taught snowboarding here for 4 years. The mountain is incredible but it is steep, and if there's snow it can be deadly as it turns to ice quite frequently and most of the steep inclines of this mountain lead to some sort of cliff or canyon where you can fall to your death and there is little to hang onto if you slide because of the winds and dry weather the mountain is called baldy becuase even below the tree line the trees are fairly sparse. Trees literally grow sideways on this mountain from the high winds.
I think it was reasonable that he was not prepared here. This is a dry mountain and if he went 200 times he was likely not expecting much ice and might have been too comfortable with the terrain, too familiar with the trail and let his guard down. I have a friend who I hiked with more than once here and by the 5 or 6th time he was hiking in vans and brought a bottle of wine and cheese for the summit, but this was during the summer.
I met a New Zealander on the mountain who loved summiting the mountain. He loved it so much I ran into him twice at the summit. The second time he borrowed my camera to snap a shot of some Ravens hanging out at the top of the mountain. We hiked down together, had a nice chat and he lent me his forest adventure pass when we discovered mine had just expired and I got a ticket. This was probably 15 + years ago and I only mention it because he is likely to watch this video if he is on UA-cam.
I know someone that was on site and he said J. Sands was not prepared for the weather, like the spikes he had were non sufficient and the clothes weren't appropriate either. He probably realized that but tried to push on. When they sent search parties out, they searched from the bottom and from uphill down but because the weather was really bad they never got to the middle of the trail he was found later on.
The other guy that went missing at the same time and got rescued got lucky because he turned around in time and didn't went as far as Sands did. He was unprepared for the weather as well.
200 times?! Damn, I haven't hiked to the river near my house 200 times.
😂 right?!!
So sad to hear this news. Julian Sands was an incredible actor and a good person.
In my experience familiarity breeds contempt which is to say that I've seldom been injured doing something new or dangerous. It's always doing something I've done over & over again for years without issue that puts me in the ER. We become complacent at our own peril.
Very very good point!!!!
I’m a diehard Julian Sands fan. Thank you for the video you were very respectful 👍
Hikers /climbers that are experienced and well schooled. Usually have a good idea what went wrong
It’s never easy news to deliver
From remembering the report on how he left for the hike, Sands was expecting to spend just a day/few days on an already familiar trail. But I have to agree with those who assume he got caught in a sudden storm, with insufficient gear for such harsh conditions. As Kyle said, I don't want to victim blame, but it would seem he was overconfident in his abilities and relied on his previous trail experience (not considered his advancing age, as he was 65), and that was what got the better of him. A cautionary tale to all solo hikers for sure. Thank you for covering this. Rest in peace, Mr. Sands. You were one of the greatest actors of your generation, and you will be missed.
It’s been clearly stated the weather was not anticipated. Why would you plan for weather that never gets that bad? Did you find the backpack and confirm there weren’t additional items in it beaus you should really tell the police if you know more than them. I get the impression you don’t realise how rude this comment actually reads. Climate change is really happening and by your logic every-time you leave to go anywhere you need to prepare for a heatwave and a blizzard. May as well add in a tsunami so someone who picks and chooses what words in a story they want to find relevant won’t blame you for your own death. 🙃 Seems more like you wanted to repeat the kind warning sentiment in the video, which didn’t need to be done, it’s in the video that people watched, but didn’t do it in the kind way they did. You haven’t even added any new information, just worded everything he said in a judgey manner and outright removed relevant information.
Rest in peace Julian 🙏✝️♥️
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What an awful result after months of his fans holding on to the hope that he would be ok. RIP Julian. Thank you for sharing your wonderful talent and gift with us.
One issue to be aware of is over-familiarity. In 2017 a climber with 700 ascents of Baldy was found dead on the mountain after a fall. Julian Sands had 200 ascents. The trick is to approach each ascent with the same care as the first - and never cut corners with gear and preparation.
No he didn't deserve to pass away. I think Mr sands is an example of someone with experience,and that we shouldn't become complacent .safety first always
I had no idea he died, let alone in such a sad and mysterious way.
I loved him in Warlock. I remember when he went missing I hoped he would be found. I would look at Mt. Baldy in the distance and think of him, knowing he was gone. Glad he was finally put to rest.
I feel so bad for that trail leader. I used to live right on a beach where bodies were found on a pretty regular basis, always by dog walkers or surfers. Every time someone went missing it would be at the top of mind when I’d walk my dog or paddle out.
Congrats on your rising success with your channel Kyle... It's well deserved! Ps this guy was in the movie "Arachnophobia" and I just watched it last night!!! Weird
That was an excellent film!
@@layersoftheonion8168 so much better than I remember
Brilliant film. Its probably the only film I ever known him in
@@TheConorsmithusa same lol
Southern California was having very rare and severe weather events during that time. We were having massive flooding and record snow fall. Snow at that elevation could have fell not in inches but feet in a very short period of time. If caught in a blinding snow storm it’s easy to get disoriented and lost even in a familiar area. If you get caught to far away from shelter your in big trouble quickly. Many people think Southern California is just palm trees and beaches, I lived in the mountains close to Mt Baldy and I encountered the heaviest snow falls I’ve ever seen.
He was a very experienced hiker, went for an afternoon hike, the weather was reasonable. He was expected to return for dinner. Completely unexpectedly an incredible storm hit so fast he may not have had time to do anything other than seek shelter. It was a freak storm. It appears he did not find any, was quickly covered in ice and snow, the end.
Ive watched a lot of wilderness survival/mishap content and so appreciate the heart and empathy you bring to the stories you tell. 🙌🏻
Definitely an under rated actor . R.i.P Mr sands
I used to work up at Mt. Baldy for a winter season. Awesome job and awesome co-workers, but I recall the weather being particularly nasty due to the saddle the resort sat on. The high winds from the Mojave to the north treated the Devil's Backbone like a fucking wind tunnel, so the "snow" was more like angular ice, often frozen on trees sideways. We had hardcore French guys who were experienced Alps skiiers that would fly to Baldy just because the ice conditions were so unique and hardcore to ski, and told us these conditions were sought after globally for their type. This meant a lot of the steep edges of the saddle were practially death slides, and during that season we unforunatly had a seemingly prepared person with mountaineering and hiking experience, pass on the mountain in 2018. I recall it being a slip at one of the sketchiest parts near the bowl. It kind of kills me that I likely sold them the ticket for the chair lift and had no idea of their intentions to summit. Which is why when people asked for the first time "how do we get to the summit?" while wearing a t-shirt, we never advise or told them anything, and told them why - it was agreed upon by the employees to never give trail advice for people who did zero planning prior as it would make us liable, but also told them not to make the ascent if they have done no planning, and stressed the freakish nature of the uper ascent. Do some prep work before arriving at a trailhead please! After volunteering in for Oregon State Parks, I can say with certainty that the average person who showed up to Baldy versus Hood or Adams was highly unprepared due to the contrast between the weather up top verses in the nearby cities, and had no idea how harsh it was up top, although not to say Julian was no prepared, and seems to have just met a similarly tragic slip as the one in 2018 in the bowl area.
Since it was so close to Los Angeles and it's arid/desert climate, we often had people come up in shorts, flip flops, and no lights "trying to reach the summit" *way* too often. There is also no cell service up there in most places. I heard the NPS UH-1 flying over a few times looking for people who got stuck up there with their phone lights a few times. Anyway, goofy place with great stories, like when we found a handgun laying in the parkinglot. We immedietly put a traffic cone over it and called the sherrif. As soon as he came up, a woman sped up the mountain asking "where is my gun?!", and told us she placed it on her back tire when putting her ski-pants on, and forgot about it, and drove away. She asked for it back, but the Sherrif was pretty much like "I don't think so, you can pick it up at the Sherrif's office along with some paperwork". We also had boneheads from Claremont who would show up just to do burnouts in the parking lot dangerously close to the line of people waiting for tickets, where the owner of the resort would come out and tell them to "fuck right off and never come back." He was pretty cool and ran a tight ship.
All in all, the seasonal work was awesome, and nothing beat the convoy of employees making their way to the Baldy Lodge for a game of billards and a few pints after a long day out in the cold.
I remember hearing that he was missing that first week. I had kept up to date on the search too. But these things hit the point where you know it's become a "recovery" issue. Very sad, I am a big fan and so very sad to learn of his passing. Thanks for the story as always.
❤️🌎💚
No matter what gear you have, going up Mt. Baldy in a blizzard, alone & without a gps doesn’t seem…prudent.
I climbe baldy like 4 weeks before him. There was snow and ice around thanksgiving
In the Killing Fields, Julian Sands acted alongside Cambodian actor Haing S. Ngor, who was shot to death in 1996 under mysterious circumstances. It was either a robbery in which he had refused to give up a locket that contained a photo of his wife who had died during the Khmer Rouge regime, during the real life events that the movie portrayed. It could have also been an assassination, which was claimed by one former Khmer Rouge member years later.
With the death of Sands, it just reminds me of the passing of time, and the tragedy of life. I don't want Ngor's name to be forgotten either
Only skied there, never hiked. While sitting in the parking lot eating lunch we watched a boulder fall onto the hood of a small car. It was totaled!!
To be fair, when hiking the baldy bowl trail (not mountaineering route), micros and trekking poles are quite sufficient. The trail gets a bit icey in some sections but micros are plenty fine. There are a couple of sections of trail where it’s possible to slide a far distance down into goode canyon, but with micros you’d be fine. Given the weather on that day however, a slide down into the canyon would be likely especially with a misstep due to poor visibility. I saw someone one winter almost slide down into the canyon but that was because they were descending the trail with no micros or trekking poles (never do this). But yea, super unfortunate.
One of my favorite actors. Terrible tragedy but glad that there is an answer and a ending of finding his remains to return him home. Rest in peace.
I miss him so much, he was a truly beautiful soul. And I can’t understand why this tragedy isn’t talked about more. Rest in peace dear dear Julian🙏❤️
I grew up on the desert side of Mt. Baldy, and hiked there a lot as a kid. My dad had a few absolute rules: never hike alone, never go without a signaling device (back in the day, before GPS and cell phones, this meant a large plastic mirror about 4”x6”) and a knife, waterproof matches, and a compass, and a space blanket. Canteen of course. We got into some slightly hairy situations, but never really life or death. Better to be safer over sorry. Sad case!
Sometimes people that are experts in a certain field, can be careless because they feel so confident.
Yup and sometimes u can every single thing correctly and still get hurt or killed.
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@@meredithgrubb4497exactly!!!!!!
You do these hiking episodes with kindness and love to all involved. If it helps just one hiker, so worth the time and effort 👣🌻
I'm continually amazed that people who are lost & alone, continue to hike Uphill-- when they could go downhill & get out of the bad weather...
Even when someone is a professional, no matter what it is, mistakes and accidents do happen. RIP Julian😭
Man I tell ya, winter hiking is tough. Every error is exacerbated 10x.
Don't do it.
Too many fit, experienced trail runners and hikers are going missing lately. We've lost a few this year in SW Colorado. I know they move fast and carry minimal gear, but a PLB seems worth the weight. Since they're only out for the day, they could leave the device on and transmitting the whole time. Search and Rescue volunteers are spending thousands of hours looking and, in many cases, finding nothing.
I'm glad you're covering this. I wanted to find something about it.
I almost perished during a winter hike on Mt Baldy, back in 72. It is treacherous during a snow storm, no matter what your experience is. That’s a gnarly mountain..
I heard the reason they thought he might be there is because his last cell phone ping was on a steep incline above that trail. It was specualted that he had fallen, so the reason they found everything scattered would be due to the tumble down the mountain.
Julian was his own victim. He took a gamble one too many times and lost the bet. In fact one might wonder if he secretly hoped to go out that way, considering he had already been in similar situations and witnessed others deaths from similar conditions. He knew what he was getting into. Either that or he failed to check weather warnings. I can imagine that being in sunny, brown southern California, he wanted to see the snow. Either way he went out doing what he clearly loved after living a brilliant life.
I'm glad you said that because that's the feeling I get. That he took himself out. He's a demographic that is most likely to do that. It's more common than people think.
That was my feeling. He aged suddenly and looked really thin and unwell. He may have had health issues and chose the mountain as a way out. Who knows? RIP beautiful Julian 😢
I’ve been watching for awhile now and I just really really enjoy your story telling, and respectful way of telling these tough stories.
Also, buddy those eyes are pretty amazing! 😅