Hi, I think that you missed one thing. On the letter that you read out it said that the digital hygrometer does not have a calibration button. So I assume that even if it is incorrect you are not able to change the reading. My only suggestion would be to put a tiny sticker on the back with a note of the correction e.g. Add 5%.
@@JS-te4gz we r not talking aboit that one man. We r talking about the one mentioned in the letter. The one without calibration button. The video presenter gives us the belief that "that one" can be calibrated too. Got it?
I have two Caliber hygrometers - 4R and IV . One reads 66 F and the other reads 72F. Anyway to calibrate the temp value? I believe the 66 F is about correct.
Thank you all I needed. Just a quick one: Can I put a digital and an analog hygrometer in the sandwich bag at the same time while doing the salt test? Or would you recommend to do it separately? I bought a basic humidor as I’m just starting and I have 2 hygrometers. The digital marks 69 and the analog 55. The analog was fine for a couple of days but then started dropping. Thank you!
Thanks for watching. I would feel more confident with the digital hygrometer. You put put them in the same bag without an issue. Let us know how it turns out.
The idea is to do the salt test to get the relative humidity of 75% and then adjust your hygrometer to 75% if the hygrometer doesn't have an adjustment put a label that says +2% or whatever it may be to equal 75%. For example if the hygrometer shows 73% humidity after 24hrs of the salt test adjust it so it does read 75% or put a label on it that says +or- the number of % it is off by so you can accurately know what the humidity is. is this example it would be +2%
Your video was certainly helpful. Unfortunately for me the 3 hygrometers I have (1 that came with humidor, 2 electronic bought elsewhere) cannot be calibrated :( I pulled out all of the screws but there's nothing there for me to adjust. Back to square one and searching for a new one :'(
I know this is a year old. But what I did was just put a label on it that says +2 because 1 of my 4 pack came out off by 2% 73% with the salt test. Which i then tested with the Boveda 75% test and it was off by 2 % @73% so My previous salt test was accurate.
Gary, I have a 100 count humidor with a top tray. I've seen the video on where to place you humidifier packs but I would like to ask where is the best place to put a digital hygrometer in your humidifier? On the top lid above the humidity pack, on the side wall, below the pack? I know many humidors have a place for the analog hygrometers but where is the best place to put a digital hygrometer to get the most accurate reading? Thanks, Steve Engelhorn, Bucyrus, OH
Here's Gary's reply - You can place the hygrometer a few inches above the humidifier/pack in the middle of the lid. If you have packs placed inside the body of the humidor among your cigars, you can place it dead center. But if you have a humidifier or pack holder under the lid, you might want to place the hygrometer near one of the upper corners of the lid. Be sure to give yourself enough room to close the lid. You may get a better reading if it's not so close to the humidifier. Hope that helps, g~
How fast do you have to calibrate it after removing it from the bag bc won’t it drop lower fast? So if you recalibrate it to 75 but it’s really lower, I assume that it wouldn’t be accurate..
I have completed this test using my digital hygrometer and it is reading 67% RH...is it possible that it could be that far off the 75% that we are looking for or is it more likely that I am doing something wrong?
@@CigarAdvisorMagazine ok well I made a 6% adjustment (the most it would let me make) to the hygrometer and put it back in the bag so it should get up to 74% RH now if that’s the case. Thanks
I have a small analog hygrometer that came with a humidor. It has a small screw in the middle in the back however the slot for the score driver is half filled in so you can only fit a flat head screw driver in on a slant. Also after calibration I tried to spin it up to 75 and it sprang back to where it was. Is this adjustable? Also I noticed if it’s tapped hard the needle will change readings? I just want to use my humidor already.
Haha boveda is really acurrate at 75%. This made me laugh. Any saturated salt solution will be 75%. It varies.with temperature but stays mostly within.74-75%
@@jaapleenstra2678 those are also acurate but using different salt molecules, what I meant is specifically a sodium chloride solution from boveda cannot be more accurate than some I can make at home.
@@DeepSouthernTX yes, I've been experimenting with various salt, pg , distilled water combos. I saw a video of a guy cutting open a Boveda and the solution looked like a salty paste, a little slimy. I'm trying using some baking soda as well, seems to bring the mixture more closely resembling Boveda.
I know this is an old posting but can anyone tell me if it’s really necessary to leave in the bag 6-8 hours if the hygrometer reaches 75% much quicker than that? -thanks
How critical is using distilled? I put the digital hygrometer in my humidor with 69% Bovida packets and it's not even CLOSE! It's readying like 53%. So I tried to sealed salt packet, and THAT wasn't even close! Brand new hygrometer.
Distilled water is very important, though sounds like you might be loosing humidity through your humidor. I've heard they can be resealed, but you'll have to investigate.
Thanks for watching. If it's a digital hygrometer there should be a button, if it's not, you can take the cover off and adjust the hands on most models.
@@sand.590 From google - The temperature and humidity readings can be calibrated on the display to improve accuracy. Calibration can improve accuracy when product placement or environmental factors impact your data accuracy. 1. To access calibration mode, press AND HOLD the “ “, “ “and “ “ buttons simultaneously for at least 5 seconds.
2 questions. 1. I got a diamond crown 90 count Wesley humidor and they give u one of their digital hygrometers. I bought the boveeda one step and put it in their and after about a day in a half it's been at a steady 71RH amd around 66 degrees. Should I leave it in the bag longer? It's says on the bag minumum 24hrs. 2 .The humidity in my room went down cause we r in Winter season so I bought the boveeda 75RH 60 gram packs. I was told because I have a 90 count humidor to throw in 4 bags but now I only have 40 cigars in there so would two 60 gram packs be good enougb?
This video doesn't really touch on Hygrometers that don't have a re calibrate or adjustment for Humidity. All you have to do is put the Hygrometer in the 75% boveda bag for 24 hrs. Whatever it comes out at just add or subtract % number and put a label on it. Example would be if the hygrometer says 73% put a label that says +2% so you know to add +2% to whatever the hygrometer reads in the humidor to get an accurate reading. To answer your second question I would say that the Boveeda packs give and take humidity so having more in it will not harm anything. If you would like to preserve your packs you cant put in lets say 2 packs and if the humidity can keep at 75% it is enough if it can't then add more packs. You can never have to many packs as it wont give off to much humidity but you can have to little of packs.
What I did was just put a label that says +2% as mine came out 73% with the salt test which I then got a boveda test and it was 73% as well so the salt test is accurate.
"more accurate by design" no, just no. I'm not here for cigars just was looking at a different model of hygrometer so checked this one out. An analog hygrometer is the only truly accurate hygrometer and is able to be used from sea level and up in the clouds. But anyway people who don't understand science are funny, anyway I can't believe people would buy that kit though lol I'm astounded and confused, and disappointed in the human race. "Are you too lazy to mix some salt and water and put your hygrometer in a bag with them ? Well buy our product and open it up and place your hygrometer inside and you don't even have to mix a bit of salt with a bit of water. I wonder how much they cost because that is one awesome scam
While I agree that generally it seems people are inherently becoming lazier and less handy, I don't see Boveda as being a part of that marketing campaign. A product of convenience and trusted quality does not necessarily pander to the crowd of 'too lazy to do it yourself' individuals. Western Humidor makes some of the most accurate hygrometers in the cigar industry. What if the sensor is identical to one used in an analog unit, but is simply displaying the readings digitally? Most comparisons find this to be accurate within 1%. And the Caliber 4R unit is only about $25. Not a bad deal. More accurate by design in terms of Boveda products refers to in addition to managing moisture, the permeable packs also absorb oxygen and control mold, among other features. Boveda holds 31 US patents (and also foreign equivalents in 20 other countries) on their products and are widely used not only by cigar fans, but art collectors, museums, food manufacturers, musicians for properly storing instruments, gun storage, electronics, etc. There are some other subtleties in their products you may not have been aware of, which separates them from a quick DIY method. There's nothing wrong with doing a calibration that way, but remember you can't get a patent on a plastic bag of water and salt, so there's obviously some differences. Proper storage is a massive industry, and reliable products to maintain those levels are crucial. For many, having an employee mixing table salt and water in zip lock baggies to tend to the care of millions of dollars of product is not the most ideal way to manage their time and assets. Naturally, this industry standard product is also used for cigars. This awesome scam is available for under $5 in over 2,500 retailers around the world.
CigarAdvisorMagazine I just found it crazy that people would pay for that but I'm a DIY sort of guy so I have to look at things differently lol I like to make and toy with anything that I can. There are great hygrometers sold that are tailored to growing orchids with very fine readings on them. A large analog though is the most accurate but on a smaller device definitely digital
I'm the same way, I like making things myself. I prefer analog units but don't mind a quality digital one as long as it is just as reliable. If its well made, all that matters is that you are happy with it. Cheers buddy, thanks for checking out our channel!
Hi Brian, you're right about the analog hygrometer. It is accurate and reliable. You just can't fix stupid. These guys telling you to stick a screwdriver into the back and adjust are nuts and incapable of communicating. They don't explain you have to 'fix' the needle in place, move the screw/shaft to allow for slight re-positioning of the needle on the shaft.
Yep. Boveda makes good humidification packs but their marketing hype is edging on snake oil..."Our salt is REALLY scientifically salty!" They sell a kit for this simple test! But if this new generation has money to burn I guess they are gonna burn it....Boveda might as well rake it in.
Your description of the analogue hygrometer was absolutely perfect
analog hygrometer: a hygrometer thats analog
Hi, I think that you missed one thing.
On the letter that you read out it said that the digital hygrometer does not have a calibration button. So I assume that even if it is incorrect you are not able to change the reading.
My only suggestion would be to put a tiny sticker on the back with a note of the correction e.g. Add 5%.
The digital one can be calibrated...
I was thinking the same thing at the end of video. Like "how about the one that doesn't come with calibration buttons?"
@@robbienroll The 4r round has calibration too
@@JS-te4gz we r not talking aboit that one man. We r talking about the one mentioned in the letter. The one without calibration button. The video presenter gives us the belief that "that one" can be calibrated too. Got it?
@@robbienroll i'd assume with the cheaper ones that don't have a calibration method you just notice the difference and keep it in mind
I have two Caliber hygrometers - 4R and IV . One reads 66 F and the other reads 72F. Anyway to calibrate the temp value? I believe the 66 F is about correct.
Not that we know of, but we will look into it.
If my digital hygrometer reads 75 can I just go ahead and set the analog the same?
can you put 2 hygrometers can u put both in one bag with the cap of salt and distilled water
Thank you all I needed. Just a quick one: Can I put a digital and an analog hygrometer in the sandwich bag at the same time while doing the salt test? Or would you recommend to do it separately? I bought a basic humidor as I’m just starting and I have 2 hygrometers. The digital marks 69 and the analog 55. The analog was fine for a couple of days but then started dropping. Thank you!
Thanks for watching. I would feel more confident with the digital hygrometer. You put put them in the same bag without an issue. Let us know how it turns out.
so can I just adjust the hygrometer to 75 percent without doing a salt test? I'm confused
We always recommend a salt test if you can.
The idea is to do the salt test to get the relative humidity of 75% and then adjust your hygrometer to 75% if the hygrometer doesn't have an adjustment put a label that says +2% or whatever it may be to equal 75%.
For example if the hygrometer shows 73% humidity after 24hrs of the salt test adjust it so it does read 75% or put a label on it that says +or- the number of % it is off by so you can accurately know what the humidity is. is this example it would be +2%
Your video was certainly helpful. Unfortunately for me the 3 hygrometers I have (1 that came with humidor, 2 electronic bought elsewhere) cannot be calibrated :( I pulled out all of the screws but there's nothing there for me to adjust.
Back to square one and searching for a new one :'(
Sorry to hear that.
I know this is a year old. But what I did was just put a label on it that says +2 because 1 of my 4 pack came out off by 2% 73% with the salt test. Which i then tested with the Boveda 75% test and it was off by 2 % @73% so My previous salt test was accurate.
Gary, I have a 100 count humidor with a top tray. I've seen the video on where to place you humidifier packs but I would like to ask where is the best place to put a digital hygrometer in your humidifier? On the top lid above the humidity pack, on the side wall, below the pack? I know many humidors have a place for the analog hygrometers but where is the best place to put a digital hygrometer to get the most accurate reading? Thanks, Steve Engelhorn, Bucyrus, OH
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. We will check with Gary and get an answer from him.
Here's Gary's reply - You can place the hygrometer a few inches above the humidifier/pack in the middle of the lid.
If you have packs placed inside the body of the humidor among your cigars, you can place it dead center.
But if you have a humidifier or pack holder under the lid, you might want to place the hygrometer near one of the upper corners of the lid. Be sure to give yourself enough room to close the lid. You may get a better reading if it's not so close to the humidifier.
Hope that helps,
g~
How fast do you have to calibrate it after removing it from the bag bc won’t it drop lower fast? So if you recalibrate it to 75 but it’s really lower, I assume that it wouldn’t be accurate..
I have completed this test using my digital hygrometer and it is reading 67% RH...is it possible that it could be that far off the 75% that we are looking for or is it more likely that I am doing something wrong?
It could be that off. We have seen that before, not too often, but we have seen that.
@@CigarAdvisorMagazine ok well I made a 6% adjustment (the most it would let me make) to the hygrometer and put it back in the bag so it should get up to 74% RH now if that’s the case. Thanks
I have a small analog hygrometer that came with a humidor. It has a small screw in the middle in the back however the slot for the score driver is half filled in so you can only fit a flat head screw driver in on a slant. Also after calibration I tried to spin it up to 75 and it sprang back to where it was. Is this adjustable? Also I noticed if it’s tapped hard the needle will change readings? I just want to use my humidor already.
We would recommend a digital hygrometer for best results. I think they are under $10, and it will give you peace of mind regarding your humidor.
What should be the volume of the zip bag?
i did the test on a tupperware, its now 48hs and still around 50%-55% could it be that bad calibrated ? is there another type of test ?
Thanks for watching. Yes it could be that bad. Hygrometers are not the most reliable if they have not been calibrated.
Try with less water and see if it stays the same
Haha boveda is really acurrate at 75%. This made me laugh. Any saturated salt solution will be 75%. It varies.with temperature but stays mostly within.74-75%
Here the same… What about the 65/69/72 bags…? Those are not accurate? Why would we buy these than? 😉
@@jaapleenstra2678 those are also acurate but using different salt molecules, what I meant is specifically a sodium chloride solution from boveda cannot be more accurate than some I can make at home.
@@DeepSouthernTX yes, I've been experimenting with various salt, pg , distilled water combos. I saw a video of a guy cutting open a Boveda and the solution looked like a salty paste, a little slimy. I'm trying using some baking soda as well, seems to bring the mixture more closely resembling Boveda.
I know this is an old posting but can anyone tell me if it’s really necessary to leave in the bag 6-8 hours if the hygrometer reaches 75% much quicker than that? -thanks
I'd leave it longer than that, I saw changes in my Tupperware after 8 hrs so did 12
How critical is using distilled? I put the digital hygrometer in my humidor with 69% Bovida packets and it's not even CLOSE! It's readying like 53%. So I tried to sealed salt packet, and THAT wasn't even close! Brand new hygrometer.
Distilled water is very important, though sounds like you might be loosing humidity through your humidor. I've heard they can be resealed, but you'll have to investigate.
What if there’s no button to calibrate?
Thanks for watching. If it's a digital hygrometer there should be a button, if it's not, you can take the cover off and adjust the hands on most models.
@@CigarAdvisorMagazine it’s digital and do not have button. It’s Acurite brand. Thanks
@@sand.590 From google - The temperature and humidity readings can be calibrated on the display to improve accuracy. Calibration can improve accuracy when product placement or environmental factors impact your data accuracy. 1. To access calibration mode, press AND HOLD the “ “, “ “and “ “ buttons simultaneously for at least 5 seconds.
@@CigarAdvisorMagazine it doesn’t have button. Thx
6 hours is no way near long enough for a lot of hygrometers. It took 26hrs for my digital hydrometer to reach 75%
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
Great, but the initial comment said he had a DIGITAL hygrometer WITHOUT a calibration button.
2 questions.
1. I got a diamond crown 90 count Wesley humidor and they give u one of their digital hygrometers. I bought the boveeda one step and put it in their and after about a day in a half it's been at a steady 71RH amd around 66 degrees. Should I leave it in the bag longer? It's says on the bag minumum 24hrs.
2 .The humidity in my room went down cause we r in Winter season so I bought the boveeda 75RH 60 gram packs. I was told because I have a 90 count humidor to throw in 4 bags but now I only have 40 cigars in there so would two 60 gram packs be good enougb?
This video doesn't really touch on Hygrometers that don't have a re calibrate or adjustment for Humidity. All you have to do is put the Hygrometer in the 75% boveda bag for 24 hrs. Whatever it comes out at just add or subtract % number and put a label on it. Example would be if the hygrometer says 73% put a label that says +2% so you know to add +2% to whatever the hygrometer reads in the humidor to get an accurate reading.
To answer your second question I would say that the Boveeda packs give and take humidity so having more in it will not harm anything. If you would like to preserve your packs you cant put in lets say 2 packs and if the humidity can keep at 75% it is enough if it can't then add more packs. You can never have to many packs as it wont give off to much humidity but you can have to little of packs.
@@chrisl2090 thank you
Thank you.
Good information. I usually do it for 12 hours.
You never touched on how to calibrate a hygrometer without an adjustment. You focused on just ones that can be adjusted.
Total bomb. Try again !!!
What I did was just put a label that says +2% as mine came out 73% with the salt test which I then got a boveda test and it was 73% as well so the salt test is accurate.
You annotate it rather than calibrate it
Is there a scientific base for this experiment?
Gives some info...
www.engineeringtoolbox.com/salt-humidity-d_1887.html
@@jeremybelcher6681 Layman's terms please
@@SavageCy A saturated solution of table salt and water creates an environment of 75% relative humidity.
How off will the reading be if I used tap water instead of distilled water?
"more accurate by design" no, just no. I'm not here for cigars just was looking at a different model of hygrometer so checked this one out. An analog hygrometer is the only truly accurate hygrometer and is able to be used from sea level and up in the clouds. But anyway people who don't understand science are funny, anyway I can't believe people would buy that kit though lol I'm astounded and confused, and disappointed in the human race. "Are you too lazy to mix some salt and water and put your hygrometer in a bag with them ? Well buy our product and open it up and place your hygrometer inside and you don't even have to mix a bit of salt with a bit of water. I wonder how much they cost because that is one awesome scam
While I agree that generally it seems people are inherently becoming lazier and less handy, I don't see Boveda as being a part of that marketing campaign. A product of convenience and trusted quality does not necessarily pander to the crowd of 'too lazy to do it yourself' individuals.
Western Humidor makes some of the most accurate hygrometers in the cigar industry. What if the sensor is identical to one used in an analog unit, but is simply displaying the readings digitally? Most comparisons find this to be accurate within 1%. And the Caliber 4R unit is only about $25. Not a bad deal.
More accurate by design in terms of Boveda products refers to in addition to managing moisture, the permeable packs also absorb oxygen and control mold, among other features. Boveda holds 31 US patents (and also foreign equivalents in 20 other countries) on their products and are widely used not only by cigar fans, but art collectors, museums, food manufacturers, musicians for properly storing instruments, gun storage, electronics, etc. There are some other subtleties in their products you may not have been aware of, which separates them from a quick DIY method. There's nothing wrong with doing a calibration that way, but remember you can't get a patent on a plastic bag of water and salt, so there's obviously some differences.
Proper storage is a massive industry, and reliable products to maintain those levels are crucial. For many, having an employee mixing table salt and water in zip lock baggies to tend to the care of millions of dollars of product is not the most ideal way to manage their time and assets. Naturally, this industry standard product is also used for cigars.
This awesome scam is available for under $5 in over 2,500 retailers around the world.
CigarAdvisorMagazine I just found it crazy that people would pay for that but I'm a DIY sort of guy so I have to look at things differently lol I like to make and toy with anything that I can. There are great hygrometers sold that are tailored to growing orchids with very fine readings on them. A large analog though is the most accurate but on a smaller device definitely digital
I'm the same way, I like making things myself. I prefer analog units but don't mind a quality digital one as long as it is just as reliable. If its well made, all that matters is that you are happy with it. Cheers buddy, thanks for checking out our channel!
Hi Brian, you're right about the analog hygrometer. It is accurate and reliable. You just can't fix stupid. These guys telling you to stick a screwdriver into the back and adjust are nuts and incapable of communicating. They don't explain you have to 'fix' the needle in place, move the screw/shaft to allow for slight re-positioning of the needle on the shaft.
Yep. Boveda makes good humidification packs but their marketing hype is edging on snake oil..."Our salt is REALLY scientifically salty!" They sell a kit for this simple test! But if this new generation has money to burn I guess they are gonna burn it....Boveda might as well rake it in.