W.A.Mozart : Sonata n°8 (NMA) in D Major, KV 311 on Clavichord - Historical Tempo Reconstruction

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  • Опубліковано 6 січ 2025

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  • @AuthenticSound
    @AuthenticSound  4 роки тому +16

    There seems to be a little confusion whether the D major sonata (this one) or the famous A Minor sonata is N°8. I've taken the order of the Neue Mozart Ausgabe (NMA) who gives this sonata as n°8 before the A minor (as does Henle). But don't worry n°9 (or 8...) will come soon in a complete new version!

  • @cfdbyrne
    @cfdbyrne 4 роки тому +15

    This music, stripped of pretentious virtuosity, has an endearing purity. It's like modern pianists, unfortunately, are saying "look at me", drawing attention to themselves instead of the music, but Wim is here telling us a story with music, drawing us into an adventure.

  • @kaybrown4010
    @kaybrown4010 4 роки тому +2

    Here it is, late in the day, and I stumbled onto this performance, having somehow missed its premiere back almost two months ago. I’m struck anew at the amazing sonority of your clavichord, its sympathetic vibrations, the intimacy of its sound. It seems the perfect instrument for Mozart. Bravo, Wim. And thank you. 🙏🏻

  • @EdmundoPFN
    @EdmundoPFN 4 роки тому +4

    I missed this premiere, but I'm happily listening this after a hard day of work. The tempo is absolutely amazing. Thanks, Wim.

  • @alvarito45
    @alvarito45 4 роки тому +3

    Pure, clean and original Mozart!! Great!!

  • @Rollinglenn
    @Rollinglenn 4 роки тому +2

    This is one I will return to often. I heard it during the premiere and decided it will be up on top of my favorites list. It is now near 11 pm here and it is wonderful as an end of day "go to" piece. Thank you for recording it!

  • @williamhuband7913
    @williamhuband7913 4 роки тому +2

    What I had meant to say, but put in the wrong place! was this:- Bravo Maestro ! - I confess I have sometimes harboured doubts about where your loyalty lay over the last year or so, but now here you are Wim demonstrating your expertise and, dare I say, Love for the most sensitive of keyboard instruments - the clavichord , as superbly and insightfully as ever. You are surely on of the greatest exponents and ambassadors for the Queen of keyboard instruments, and its music, ever ! Thank you, and may you long continue !

  • @susankinney5193
    @susankinney5193 4 роки тому +3

    This has provided the much-needed relaxation to my stressful day today! ❤

  • @Clavichordist
    @Clavichordist 4 роки тому +2

    Very nice. It's as if you've gone home and Ms. Clavichord has welcomed you with open arms. I worked on this sonata many years ago but at a faster tempo of course now I need to look at revisit it again someday. The Rondo reminds me of a flute concerto.

  • @marcomarialacasella9941
    @marcomarialacasella9941 4 роки тому +1

    Grazie....bravo , riesco a gustare con gioia la BELLEZZA DI MOZART

  • @879korn
    @879korn 4 роки тому +1

    That trill at 19 minutes though. Beautiful.

  • @DavidSdeLis
    @DavidSdeLis 4 роки тому

    Amazing, simply amazing... What manner of expression! The clavichord is, indeed, the Alpha and Omega of the keyboards. An Ouroboros that shines like a golden torc. Sometimes, listening to it, I even get the feeling of the Spanish guitar, so dear to me and so familiar! It's just beauty, naked in its apparent simplicity, but rich in nuances and tones and with so many ways to smile, and frown and pout! Yes, the Fritz has an amazing sound, but I am #TeamClavichord forever! Keep it up, it's unglaublich!

  • @mariusvanhandel2876
    @mariusvanhandel2876 4 роки тому +3

    The clavichord (I should say, Joris Potvlieghe's clavichord with Wim playing) is an amazing instrument. Its very clean tones and clarity of line give insights into music like no other. It is as if you can see deeper into the music, because the clavichord does not have all kinds of deviations from pure tones, like a pianoforte. At the same time, it supports complete separation of lines, because ten fingers have more degrees of freedom than the four fretting and four plucking fingers of the guitar, which are always limited by their dependencies on each other. Add Wim's tempos that are calculated for maximum musical impact, and voilà: you have a combination that is hard to beat for music from this period (including early Beethoven) and back. [As a guitarist, I am so used to slight sympathetic vibrations from strings that were not played and incomplete damping, that they do not bother me at all].

  • @ronkatz507
    @ronkatz507 4 роки тому

    Wim, this is so wornderful.
    Especially the Rondo Alegro which sounds in your performance like I never thought it can be sound. Thank you!

  • @jorgeurzuaurzua4011
    @jorgeurzuaurzua4011 4 роки тому +2

    I fell in love with clavichord as an adolescent. Three sonatas by Domenico Scarlatti played by Kabi Loretei in Ingmar Bergman movie "The Magician" ("Ansiktet") and my forays in ancient music fixed my enduring love. When I could I bought myself a good Canadian made clavichord that I treasure until today. The dry, austere sound reminds me of the lute and the teorba. Johan Sebastian Bach played the harpsichord, a more complex and flexible instrument. I cannot imagine the preludes and fugues of the WTC on a clavichord, it lacks, chromatic and timbrical complexity. In Mozart time the pianoforte was the prevailing voice, with pedal and more responsive voleume and expression on the hands of the player (sometimes the executioner). I apologize for my limitless ignorance but I feel that Mozart and Haydn had already left behind the harpsichord, no to mentipn the clavichord that I love precisely because its limitations. Thanks for posting.

    • @VRnamek
      @VRnamek 4 роки тому

      yet here is Mozart sounding great on clavichord

    • @jorgeurzuaurzua4011
      @jorgeurzuaurzua4011 4 роки тому +1

      @@VRnamek Please do not imply that I did not appreciate and like your interpretation of Mozart in a clavichord. It is a tour de force that sounds beautiful. I admire your effort and your enthusiasm. Thanks for letting us share this music.

  • @MrBatraaf
    @MrBatraaf 4 роки тому +3

    Beautiful performance. Just the fact of using the clavichord as a reference already seems to point in the direction of another range of tempi, because the notes need space to breathe; almost like with a stringed instrument. And since modern pianos still did not exist when the piece was written, it' s a credible interpretation.
    It gives the piece a different character from what I'm used to, but I like it. The sound is much more like earlier classical music.
    Hope you keep posting more works from Mozart.

  • @musicalintentions
    @musicalintentions 4 роки тому

    I always enjoy hearing you and your clavichord. 💕🎵💕

  • @anthonymccarthy4164
    @anthonymccarthy4164 4 роки тому +3

    Is there an index of the Czerny MM numbers for these sonatas anywhere? If we can't find the editions it would be nice to at least have the MM numbers so we can try them with other editions. Maybe something someone could do at their leisure and publish online? I agree that this one takes on greater depth at these tempos. I've never been the hugest fan of Mozart played as a speed playing stunt, though I was guilty of that once, myself.

    • @AuthenticSound
      @AuthenticSound  4 роки тому +1

      I'll share the numbers on patreon, Czerny is -strange enough- not very much available online

  • @879korn
    @879korn 4 роки тому +1

    So glad to have another mozart sonata recorded on the clavichord. Now that the channel has many pianoforte videos i find myself wondering if there will ever be an authentic sounds harpsichord? It seems like there was a harpsichord or two in the development of Bach to Beethoven! Also, I hope you and your family are doing well Wim.

  • @fuegouno5789
    @fuegouno5789 4 роки тому

    Marvelous! Thank you so much

  • @CrazyPocky355
    @CrazyPocky355 4 роки тому +1

    Yessss !!!! 🥰🥰🥰

  • @tarikeld11
    @tarikeld11 4 роки тому +1

    20:51 this is where Beethoven got a melody in Sonata no. 3 4th movement from 🤔

  • @lshin80
    @lshin80 4 роки тому

    Nice, don't lose your touch on this instrument! 👍

  • @redaouzizi8215
    @redaouzizi8215 10 місяців тому

    It's the ninth sonata in d major
    The 8th one is a sonata in a minor

  • @brunocanal592
    @brunocanal592 4 роки тому

    Fantastico! Bravo!

  • @blake8625
    @blake8625 4 роки тому

    This should be a fun recording

  • @corry7461
    @corry7461 4 роки тому +2

    Wim where do you find those metronome marks? I’m a patron would you upload them pls 🙏🏻🙏🏻

    • @AuthenticSound
      @AuthenticSound  4 роки тому +4

      I'll share them on Patreon Corry, those Czerny scores (as with almost every Czerny edition...) are hard to find

    • @EdmundoPFN
      @EdmundoPFN 4 роки тому +2

      @@AuthenticSound that will be awesome Wim! I've been trying with no luck to find these scores as well.

    • @corry7461
      @corry7461 4 роки тому

      AuthenticSound wim im pretty sure this is sonata no. 9, no.8 (my favourite) is the a minor one, or is this another numeration?

    • @AuthenticSound
      @AuthenticSound  4 роки тому +1

      @@corry7461 There is certain confusion here it appears
      in several editions, but NMA and Henle give this as n°8, so before the A minor, dme.mozarteum.at/DME/nma/nmapub_srch.php?l=1

  • @Sharlice87
    @Sharlice87 4 роки тому +3

    Wim and Alberto, will we be able to listen to a peace written by you on this channel? :)

  • @clivegoodman16
    @clivegoodman16 4 роки тому +1

    It appears that kv311 is Mozart Sonata No 9 and Sonata No 8 is kv310 in A minor.

    • @AuthenticSound
      @AuthenticSound  4 роки тому

      There is certain confusion here Clive in several editions, but NMA and Henle give this as n°8, so before the A minor, dme.mozarteum.at/DME/nma/nmapub_srch.php?l=1

  • @petertyrrell3391
    @petertyrrell3391 4 роки тому +1

    Wim, in the Rondeau, bar 33 onwards, you seemed to be playing the LH legato, and also the Alberti bass bar 56 onwards. Was there a convention to always play these types of accompaniment legato?

    • @AuthenticSound
      @AuthenticSound  4 роки тому +2

      convention is a big word, but holding notes longer for melodic, harmonic reasons etc was indeed a very normal practice.

    • @petertyrrell3391
      @petertyrrell3391 4 роки тому

      @@AuthenticSound I have seen Alberti basses and other broken cord accompaniments with and without slurs. Is it just as valid to play some non-legato?

  • @thomashughes4859
    @thomashughes4859 4 роки тому +1

    First - post-performance!!! :D

  • @korbilicious
    @korbilicious 4 роки тому

    Wim, can you or Alberto play Piano Sonata No. 30 or 31, the late piano sonatas by Beethoven? I would love to listen to the original tempo, if they have one. Thanks and I hope you see this. :)

    • @AuthenticSound
      @AuthenticSound  4 роки тому +5

      101, 109, 110 and 111 are coming soon! I will take care of them (Alberto)

    • @korbilicious
      @korbilicious 4 роки тому +1

      @@AuthenticSound Thanks for letting me know.

    • @Garrett_Rowland
      @Garrett_Rowland 4 роки тому

      @@AuthenticSound Op.110 cannot come soon enough. Looking forward to it~

  • @williamhuband7913
    @williamhuband7913 4 роки тому

    See my comment erroneously posted on your KV282 performance from 2017, which was intended to be attached to this masterly performance.

  • @Gustavofeanor
    @Gustavofeanor 4 роки тому

    Honey-like switness, thanks WIM.

  • @derby2510
    @derby2510 4 роки тому

    I know you're doing it intentionally to add drama to the cadence, but it's kind of funny that the metronome pops up in the beginning of the piece just as you're pushing the tempo ahead a little bit.

    • @AuthenticSound
      @AuthenticSound  4 роки тому +1

      the metronome is simply there as a reference. No drama, facts! But if you try to say I don't play like a metronome... you're absolutely right

    • @derby2510
      @derby2510 4 роки тому +1

      @@AuthenticSound A better word would maybe be "tension". I don't mean that displaying the metronome is dramatic, just the modest but noticeable little push towards the cadence. And no, you don't play like a metronome at all! :)

  • @123Joack
    @123Joack 4 роки тому

    the andante.... i first came into contact to this piece through the wonderful animation by stephen malinowksi, a great inspiration: /watch?v=CApgL9Plbc8&list=ULPCWCsEa4_eo&index=160
    You play so heartfelt and honest, thank you!