Exphixiaa Hey I love your video, especially the tips in the second half concerning mentalism . Another resource I also found helpfull for how do I do levitation was Knewreck Simple Mentalism Guide - if anyone is interested search on google
My math teacher showed and taught me this trick when I was in 6th grade. I'm already 25 now. This was a nostalgic trick for me. I was trying so hard to do it again and then I stumbled on to your video. Thanks man \m/
Yea man just busy getting ready for the new baby. The wife is getting induced on Saturday and we had to build a new room in the house for the girls. So Stressed!
Had 5 people pick 5 different numbers, had one of them write down my 5 numbers and add them up, all were very impressed. I have 3 sets of numbers so I can actually perform this trick 3 separate times for the same audience. Works every time.
I loved this, it's awesome man. I'm a late comer obviously, but I just did this with my wife and watched her brain go into overdrive trying to figure it out.
Great trick. I like your take, but in dumbing it down and KISS, I think I will say pick a number between 100,000 and 200,000. If they pick 10x,xxx I will look at them crazy and say do over. If they say 11x,xxx please refer to previous statement. Other than those 2 outcomes out of hundreds, I am in. This method gives them total free choice.
What if you have the four numbers that add up to 111,111 on a buisness card but not the random number on it. And your signature on the bottom right. To begin put your thumb over your signature hiding it and quickly and casually flash it to the spectator and the audience. then set the numbers aside. Carry on with the trick as normal but at the very end as an afterthought say ''oh wait, don't you want my signature?" pick up the buisness card but instead of writing your signature you write the number that makes all the numbers add up to the spectators number. You can then hand them the buisness card as a souvenir! I love this trick and I hope this makes it better - Miscellaneous
I noticed that she took the small paper with the list on it from you at the end. How did the illusion hold up? Are you just counting on her not reading the middle number?
You could also leave a blank space for the third number, then fill it in later with a swami. Of course you could do a much more convincing effect with a swami, but I feel like this is a really cool effect for someone to practice their showmanship and presentation skills.
Most people seem to be concerned with the number discrepancy. If you want to give this a more professional (and inspectable) presentation, leave the third number blank and use a nail-writer to fill it in while they're doing the addition. The thumb can be used to cover the "missing" number in a casual display while you state "I've written 5 numbers"... etc. You can then cleanly let them compare the numbers you predicted after the performance.
You could use another peace of paper without the dummy Number. And while they're adding everything up write the other Number down and put the first peace of paper aside. ✌🏾️
It's very unlikely that they ask to see the number as they're focusing on writing them down. After they've written them down, you quickly put your numbers away in your pocket and they will forget about it.
I think the dummy number would be a liability just give them 4 , 5 digit numbers and then say I’m going to give you a fifth off the top of my head they will know there’s a trick, but that’s the pint of magic they won’t figure it out tho.
HOLY SH#T!!! When she was writing down the numbers (137497) When she wrote down the 3, i started guessing in my own mind what she can write down, so when she said 7, i thought of 7 a second earlier, basicly if you dont understand this, let me explain further. I basicly guessed the last 4 (damn im good) numbers and i got pretty excited when she actually said those last 4. This is so far one of my Top 50 Guesses of My Lifetime.
Actually , bunch of people are using 734 concept for me .. In my case , when i ask people to pick a number from 1 to 10 in their minds .. atleast 1/3 will pick 7 .. maybe 1/4 xd
Raphael felicio I did not encounter that issue. You can show the first and second number they i say ok i will continue to tell you the rest of the number and drag the sheet towards me so they don't see it anymore, They will think that you are reading from the paper.
2712adi is just you see i know my friends and family will ask me to see the whole list so i just wanted to know if there was anything i could do to avoid
You seem like a really nice guy. I want you to be successful and I wish you the best of luck. If I may offer some constructive criticism. I would say that perhaps you were a bit long-winded. I think it will serve you well if you can be more direct, get straight to the point and be less repetitive. I do mean this with absolute respect. Best wishes.
Correct me if I am wrong, but the cleanest method that I have is any 6 digit number with 2 exceptions: no repeats (only because it is a pattern that will tip off the substitute) and no zeros (because it calls for carrying and makes the calculation tricky). I don't care that my substitute is a 6 digit number and the beauty of the total equaling their chosen number outweighs the small likelihood that someone sees how it is done. This way seems or can be sold as less limited and wider than the only 100,000 range shown here. This is 121,111 to 199,999 whereas mine is 121,111 to 999,999.
I am nearly certain you're wrong, so here is my attempt at correcting you. I am no mathematician, so please feel free to challenge my conclusion. Because the base off of which this trick functions is 111,111, the first digit of their number must be a 1. This is so because technically, when you subtract 1 from each of their numbers, *you are subtracting 1 from their first digit as well*; it just always equals 0 because you always make their first digit a 1. As a result, the first number being anything other than 1 will not work. Example [adopting your exceptions]: They choose 923,456. Your numbers [the first three randomly chosen, the fourth a matter of necessity, as it is the result of subtractions from 111,111]: a. 54,632 b. 42,753 c. 27,839 d. [necessarily] 10,757 e. [irrelevant dummy number] 54,632 + 42,753 + 27,839 + 10,757 + [subtracting 1 from each of their digits] 812,345 = 948,326, not 923,456.
Your numbers are wrong... 54,632+42,753+27,839=125,224+10757=135981 ... His example does work: They choose 923,456 a) 37,098 b)42,901 c)19.234 d)11,878 (necessarily) e) dummy number 37,098+42,901+19,234+11,878+812,345=923,456
Sebastian Sanders I just realized you were agreeing with me. I will delete my response to you and adresss it to sjactress. We agree that you can use any number barring repetitive and have a more clean result.
SJActress HI SJActress. South Jersey? Anyway. A reader agreed that my way works and his response is below. I just made a video which shows that my method works. They must have 6 numbers then you must subtly reduce each of the 6 digits by 1. ua-cam.com/video/vwhpqlozW7g/v-deo.html
Yes Thanks ! He did a completely different presentation : he randomly picked someone in the audience, he hypnotised him, while the spectator was in transe he read out loud his 5 numbers, then he asked him to say 6 digits which was coming to his mind. Then he waked him up and voila ! He says his subconscient added the 5 numbers and the digits which came to his mind was the total. I thought it was an awesome presentation !
Thank you so much for sharing this superb mathematical effect. Love the devious verbal miss-direction with the slipping of the modified 'Dummy Number'. Very inspiring!! I might incorporate this sneaky adding principle into a future card effect creation, if you don't mind. If I ever do a card trick video using this principle in some way, I will definitely mention your channel (with your permission of course) - where I found this awesome principle!! Thanks so much again for sharing! Great detailed video explanation/presentation by the way!
One easy trick to prevent them from choosing 1 as their first number would be to tell them they can't choose the same number twice--but ONLY say that if they choose 1. So...since you chose 1, they would have to choose something else.
Pick a 3 digit number, reverse it and subtract the smaller number from the larger number. Don't use the same number for all 3 digits, and don't have the same number for the first and last digit. EXAMPLE # 1: 742 - 247= 495 ... the 4 and 5 of the answer = 9 ... the middle number will always be 9. However, sometimes the answer is 99 EXAMPLE # 2: 877 - 778 = 99 Regardless, the total of the answer will always equal 18, and there will always be a 9 in the 'ten' spot (second digit from the right).
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This can be used in a trick with a book, maybe using the 18 as the number of the page and the 9 as the number of the word. But I would use something more complicated, maybe I'll use the 9, as the constant for the word number, but for the 18, I would make them multiply it by 4, to make it appear even more random. You can even add depth to the effect by forcing them a card previously in an unrelated trick, just so you can recall it like "Let's multiply that number to... Oh, remember what was your card?, the 4 of spades, let's say 4".. Or 6 or whatever you chose. I think the more layers you can add, the better the effect.
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To elaborate a little more, this would force a word prediction. But you have to see the posibilities to get an interesting word out of the page you want to predict; the more inusual the better.
Toward the end, he almost said "If you don't believe me, just watch" a year before Bruno Mars released his Monster Uptown Funk hit. That would have been real Mental-ism. He said, Don't believe, you'll see or something to that affect.
1st of all, it was incredibly hard to concentrate with such a beautiful helper, some people are just waaaay too beautiful lol... 2nd of all, use this with caution: use number 111 instead. Generate 4 numbers (each one has 2 digits) that totally relates to your life (could be your birthday, special dates, whatever, to build that plot of human connection), then use a Swami Gimmick for the 5th number created out of the 2 digit number the spectator will give you. You adding the number 1 at the beginning shouldn't be an issue if you have the right presentation and pacing. It will melt brains.
Apart from influencing the person by saying "chose a number *between* 1 and 9" instead of *from* 1 to 9, I don't really see how this is mentalism. It's just math / a play with numbers. Or what did I miss?
Dan Friedman I know, but mentalism is about reading or influencing other people's mind (at least according to other mentalists): where is the reading/influence here (apart from what I point out in the OP)?
I have an idea of making ap app for Andoid which generates 4 random numbers that sum up to 111,111 and then you say "But maybe my phone is set to do something" so then you generate 4 more numbers and you show they are different. Alright, you tell them they can press the generate button as many times as they want, that app simply generates 4 random numbers of 5 digits, that they don't know they sum up to 111,111. So they will feel sure about the randomness. Then to choose the 5th number you can make a lot of things, for example you can ask each person of the audience for a number from 1 to 9 meanwhile the person that chose the first number is copying down on paper, and mentally you count the number that you need to complete the 5 digits sequence. For example the last number you need is 29,763, you will go to random spectators asking for a random number from 1 to 9 untill 2,9,7,6,3 have been said by somebody. At that poin you say "Alright, so listening to people I gathered up a random number they chose, the only numbers that I remember they said, I asked a lot of people, and the numbers are 29,763" (Not sure this is a good way of camouflaging it) and the rest is the same. I never did magic to anyone, I'm just fascinating and I'm learning card magic tricks at the moment. Tell me if this seems like a good idea.
You can allow them to pick zeros - just not for the second number of the six, the first number they pick after you've written the one. When you do the subtraction, treat the zero as ten, subtract one, leaving you nine. This was originally a Larry Becker trick, I think, called Some Total. Richard Osterlind modified it and Becker republished it as Some Total Radio. He made further updates which he published in his excellent book "Stunners" which is a collector's item these days. Not sure why Robert Bullock was screaming at you. No courtesy online these days.
I'm curious on this too. But I think that is part of the deception of it, part of the show. You have to make them not pay attention to that. Really, they have no reason not believe what's happening because you had these numbers at the beginning and they basically picked the numbers at random after you already had them written down.
These tricks does not succeed always, these only work with people who hate maths and are already frustated with adding and do not care about anything else.
ajay singh Well, the idea is that it's an illusion. It's complicated enough that, if done right, people can't figure it out, that is why you are burying the dummy number. I have given people my list and they look and they don't even pick up a number is different. Not because they aren't good at math or they are fed up, but because there are a lot of moving parts, a lot of places where something could have happened they have missed. It's also, like all magic, part of the show. You showed them numbers, maybe you even showed them some of the numbers you were reading as you read them. In their mind the numbers are fine.
Its all about success rate. 80-90% wont pick it. But then their will always be those 10% and same is the case with magic\illusion as you rightly pointed out.
You are approaching a magic tutorial as if it were preparation and instruction on a fully-staged theatre piece; it's not. The playwright provides the actor with lines first. Based on those lines, the director instructs the actor on blocking and motivation that will align with what the actor is saying. A magic tutorial works in the opposite direction. A director (tutor) instructs the actor (magician) on blocking and motivation (tricks and arc). It is then up to *you*, the magician (playwright), to examine the blocking and motivation and come up with lines (patter) that will make the movement make sense. In the end, the audience will suspend their disbelief (willingly or unwillingly) only to the extent that the combination of what they are seeing and hearing makes sense and can be followed. Good patter is the key to a trick like this. Intelligent people are as easy to fool as unintelligent people (and in some cases, their confidence in their competence makes them *easier* to fool). If you are unable to fool intelligent people, you probably cannot fool unintelligent people, and you need better patter, simple as that.
Great Trick! Thanks. I tried it and failed.. LOL. I memorized my numbers but I mixed one of them (28412 instead of 24812), and I was off by 4 thousand. I felt tiny embarrassed. On a bright side, I was wrong only by 3% of the target number and tried to present it like a partial success. I will be smarter next time. Thanks again.
I don't wanna know about your facebook page before everything. Impress us with what you have up your sleeves, keep us interested, make the audience want you to tell them about your pages, all of them. Good luck ;)
Sorry to be a bugaboo, but I have great news to report. You DON'T Have to use a 1 for the first digit. I played around with it and the chosen number of 864,428 works fine by just subtracting 1 number from each column. Therefore the 3rd number you give will be 753,317, but I doubt that they will be the wiser when they are marveling at all numbers equaling their randomly chosen number. I hate limitations on tricks and the only true limitation to this seems to be no zeros. I work with a finicky group, but I suspect that they would catch on to the first number always being a one quicker than they would to one of the numbers being 6 digits or a variation on the key number. Just a thought.
the problem is that your third number won't be a 5 digit number. 753,317 has 6 digits. I believe the condition is only 5 digit numbers are on the list.
Weird that you didn't think to fail safe the 1 problem by making your 4 non-dummy numbers add up to 101,111 and then make the first number equal to the one they have instead of subtracting 1 (the other 1s don't matter because X0XXX, X00XX or any other combination with 0s in it are still 5 digit numbers, the first digit is the important one).
I do have a question...since you invited questions. What do we do when our subject yanks the business card away from us and starts comparing the numbers, like she did at 4:03 in this video? Obviously we can not allow that.
dude why so much detail? All you have to do is dance in a symmetrical fashion while you talk to them. get them to match your disposition (energetic, happy, or sad) say something and *snap* they agree with you.
I can tell you, why you haven´t seen this effekt being performed yet. Because every layman will wonder, what is really written on the prediction card and ask the performer to hand it out. I have seen a routine based on this technique performed on stage. The assistind spectator was emediately sent back to his seat, so he had no chance to ask any question and the programm continued. But in a close up situation (espacially with friends) the is no chance to get away with it.
Done this plenty with a rare occasion of curious people. Most dont ask. Get the card out of site after and move on, they will never ask. If they do, you are doing it wrong. Learn crowd control
WhiteArtsMagic love what your doing. I’d appreciate if you email me at thomasbeachnewaza@gmail.com for some chat about magic. I’d really appreciate it as I do magic and always love to learn more about something I simply know little of. Also the magic I do know is so limited when I compare myself to well anyone half decent. Not my strong suit magic but it’s a fun hobbie and maybe it will turn into something more.
I completely agree, fantastic trick and would love to try it but I know the next thing would be to ask for the card WhiteArtsMagic can you explain what you did when she grabbed the card or was it nothing and she figured it out?
When the participant is adding up all of the numbers i bet the whole theater gets pretty quite...so i was wondering if you could tell a story of some sort to keep the tension going, but i am having difficulty thinking if ine...can you give me any suggestions please
The problem is if she sees the dummy number. I'd put it at the 4th or 5th position so she doesn't bother reading after the first 2 or 3 numbers are confirmed.
This is actually a good idea for a variation. However, you'd have to force an Ace as their first "free" selection, because the first number has to be a 1 for the trick to work.
I use this method with Aces - nines being 1-9. After the free choice, turn the cards face down. (This requires that you remember the number so you can do the math in your head.) If the participant chooses a boring number like 2-3-4-5-6, then the first and last while face down, again remembering the face down number in order to do the math. (You can't do that changes with a written number.) Then in the reveal, turn over the cards to show how they are the exact total of the participant's numbers. Also, my patter stresses the notion that I am mentally influencing her choice of numbers. I believe that without some patter about ESP, this is simply a number trick that anyone could discover and learn, not mentalism.
I was thinking...instead of showing them ANY numbers at first, you could write down the four 5-digit numbers on a business card, and just don't write down a dummy number at all...keep the business card in your lap and just tell them "I have some numbers written down in my pocket..." or whatever. if you had a tiny little pen or pencil also in one of your hands, you can quickly do the math in your head after they show you their 6-digit number to get the REAL 5-digit number you need, and maybe even while giving them the whole story behind the trick you can be silently writing down that key 5th 5-digit number you need on your card in your lap out of everybody's sight...the only thing you would need to get good at would be writing in your lap very covertly without actually looking down at what you're writing. doesn't seem like it would be that hard. -then you can just pretend to pull the card out of your pocket,(while reaching into your pocket with the business card and the tiny pencil already in your hand, you can just drop the pencil in your pocket right before you pull the card back out, leaving behind the evidence of the pencil) and you would actually have all 5 exact numbers you need already written down. It would just be that much more amazing then after they actually add up to the person's number. You could pass your card around and let everybody see with their own eyes that you had all the numbers written down before the person even picked their number, instead of just putting the card away quickly. People would fucking freak out and call you a wizard then for sure! hahaha
At the end of the trick... your sister took the paper with the numbers... did she compared them with the summed up ones and discovered the trick and the dummy number?
***** Do you think if the mentalist writes a 5-digit number at the same time when the spectator does, the original 5 numbers (i.e. with the mentalist's "dummy" number) would add up to that 5-digit number the mentalists chose at the same time when the spectator chose his?
After you name the numbers for the spectator to write it down, put your numbers away. Out of sight out of mind. Usually they wont even think about it, since they think they saw the numbers as they wrote them down, because they do see most of them. Get the card out of sight and just refer to the list they wrote down
how do u get the dummy number replaced by the original one cause in ur case ur audiance checked the slip with the numbers out how would i get it done to give that effect
instructions so detailed i became a doctor
Doctorate from the University of WhiteArtsMagic. Use it wisely
Exphixiaa Hey I love your video, especially the tips in the second half concerning mentalism
. Another resource I also found helpfull for how do I do levitation
was Knewreck Simple Mentalism Guide - if anyone is interested search on google
+WhiteArtsMagic lmao im done m8
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i need an examination.
My math teacher showed and taught me this trick when I was in 6th grade. I'm already 25 now. This was a nostalgic trick for me. I was trying so hard to do it again and then I stumbled on to your video. Thanks man \m/
The real mentalism was getting me to watch this video
This fooled the crap out of me. I don't do much mentalism but I will be using this one. Thanks Chase!
It's definitely a fun one to do! Thanks Mike. Hope all is going well for you!
Yea man just busy getting ready for the new baby. The wife is getting induced on Saturday and we had to build a new room in the house for the girls. So Stressed!
***** Congrats Mike!
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Had 5 people pick 5 different numbers, had one of them write down my 5 numbers and add them up, all were very impressed. I have 3 sets of numbers so I can actually perform this trick 3 separate times for the same audience. Works every time.
I was trying to figure out how to do this for my wife's family and that is the key. Awesome idea man.
I loved this, it's awesome man. I'm a late comer obviously, but I just did this with my wife and watched her brain go into overdrive trying to figure it out.
Fell asleep 3 times listening to you explain. Pick it UP a touch!
I fell asleep 3 times making this video. And 3 times editing this video
It wasn't boring, it was well explained! I'm gonna try it on my kid tonight, thanks!
So a very simple idea, but this guy takes 20 minutes of my life to explain it. Kept going over and over the same things. I feel dizzy.
Great trick. I like your take, but in dumbing it down and KISS, I think I will say pick a number between 100,000 and 200,000. If they pick 10x,xxx I will look at them crazy and say do over. If they say 11x,xxx please refer to previous statement. Other than those 2 outcomes out of hundreds, I am in. This method gives them total free choice.
What if you have the four numbers that add up to 111,111 on a buisness card but not the random number on it. And your signature on the bottom right. To begin put your thumb over your signature hiding it and quickly and casually flash it to the spectator and the audience. then set the numbers aside. Carry on with the trick as normal but at the very end as an afterthought say ''oh wait, don't you want my signature?" pick up the buisness card but instead of writing your signature you write the number that makes all the numbers add up to the spectators number. You can then hand them the buisness card as a souvenir!
I love this trick and I hope this makes it better
- Miscellaneous
Good idea
Awesome idea!
Great effect, clear instructions and I will certainly use this, many thanks, kind regards, David from the U.K.
I noticed that she took the small paper with the list on it from you at the end. How did the illusion hold up? Are you just counting on her not reading the middle number?
@Spoiler - Walter Dies Don't think he's going to answer this question, but he might one day.
@@lafingas555 did he die ??
This is great! My 8 year old son loves magic and math. I'm going to use this trick to inspire him. Thank you!!!
You could also leave a blank space for the third number, then fill it in later with a swami. Of course you could do a much more convincing effect with a swami, but I feel like this is a really cool effect for someone to practice their showmanship and presentation skills.
Most people seem to be concerned with the number discrepancy. If you want to give this a more professional (and inspectable) presentation, leave the third number blank and use a nail-writer to fill it in while they're doing the addition. The thumb can be used to cover the "missing" number in a casual display while you state "I've written 5 numbers"... etc. You can then cleanly let them compare the numbers you predicted after the performance.
what happens if they ask to see the number. how do you hide the dummy number
exactly my point... what if they wanna see those numbers?
You could use another peace of paper without the dummy Number. And while they're adding everything up write the other Number down and put the first peace of paper aside. ✌🏾️
It's very unlikely that they ask to see the number as they're focusing on writing them down. After they've written them down, you quickly put your numbers away in your pocket and they will forget about it.
the lady didn't, she looked at them. He should have put the dummy number at the 4th or 5th position so she doesn't both reading all of them.
I think the dummy number would be a liability just give them 4 , 5 digit numbers and then say I’m going to give you a fifth off the top of my head they will know there’s a trick, but that’s the pint of magic they won’t figure it out tho.
HOLY SH#T!!! When she was writing down the numbers (137497) When she wrote down the 3, i started guessing in my own mind what she can write down, so when she said 7, i thought of 7 a second earlier, basicly if you dont understand this, let me explain further. I basicly guessed the last 4 (damn im good) numbers and i got pretty excited when she actually said those last 4. This is so far one of my Top 50 Guesses of My Lifetime.
Actually , bunch of people are using 734 concept for me ..
In my case , when i ask people to pick a number from 1 to 10 in their minds .. atleast 1/3 will pick 7 .. maybe 1/4 xd
3y old comment shit
I figured out eventually. Thanks for the disclosure of this wonderful trick. Truly appreciated. I hope to see more in the future.
Alright, glad you figured it out! Sorry, kinda a long trick to explain! But have fun with it!
***** true. It can be a little tricky and not so easy to learn but the reward will come in time. Can't wait to dazzle some peoples.
+WhiteArtsMagic but what if the person wants to see the list to check if you didn't cheat, that would ruin the whole trick wouldn't it?
Raphael felicio I did not encounter that issue. You can show the first and second number they i say ok i will continue to tell you the rest of the number and drag the sheet towards me so they don't see it anymore, They will think that you are reading from the paper.
2712adi is just you see i know my friends and family will ask me to see the whole list so i just wanted to know if there was anything i could do to avoid
You seem like a really nice guy. I want you to be successful and I wish you the best of luck. If I may offer some constructive criticism. I would say that perhaps you were a bit long-winded. I think it will serve you well if you can be more direct, get straight to the point and be less repetitive. I do mean this with absolute respect. Best wishes.
Very nice!! Thank you for sharing that effect!! im glad that this video is long , you took the time to explain it very good!! thanks a lot!
Every time I watch your vids I think wat a big collection u have got
Thanks for taking the time to show and explain this trick, much appreciated.
This is really cool trick and you revealed this thoroughly. Appreciate this....
It was a wonderful trick.Thanks for teaching us this trick and show us some more.
Great trick; but it could have been described/performed in a 2 minute video. :/
I like magic, but I don't like math, so I was gonna skip over this vid. But I stuck around because your assistant is supes cute!
Correct me if I am wrong, but the cleanest method that I have is any 6 digit number with 2 exceptions: no repeats (only because it is a pattern that will tip off the substitute) and no zeros (because it calls for carrying and makes the calculation tricky). I don't care that my substitute is a 6 digit number and the beauty of the total equaling their chosen number outweighs the small likelihood that someone sees how it is done. This way seems or can be sold as less limited and wider than the only 100,000 range shown here. This is 121,111 to 199,999 whereas mine is 121,111 to 999,999.
I am nearly certain you're wrong, so here is my attempt at correcting you. I am no mathematician, so please feel free to challenge my conclusion.
Because the base off of which this trick functions is 111,111, the first digit of their number must be a 1. This is so because technically, when you subtract 1 from each of their numbers, *you are subtracting 1 from their first digit as well*; it just always equals 0 because you always make their first digit a 1. As a result, the first number being anything other than 1 will not work.
Example [adopting your exceptions]:
They choose 923,456.
Your numbers [the first three randomly chosen, the fourth a matter of necessity, as it is the result of subtractions from 111,111]:
a. 54,632
b. 42,753
c. 27,839
d. [necessarily] 10,757
e. [irrelevant dummy number]
54,632 + 42,753 + 27,839 + 10,757 + [subtracting 1 from each of their digits] 812,345 = 948,326, not 923,456.
Your numbers are wrong...
54,632+42,753+27,839=125,224+10757=135981 ... His example does work:
They choose 923,456
a) 37,098
b)42,901
c)19.234
d)11,878 (necessarily)
e) dummy number
37,098+42,901+19,234+11,878+812,345=923,456
Sebastian Sanders I just realized you were agreeing with me. I will delete my response to you and adresss it to sjactress. We agree that you can use any number barring repetitive and have a more clean result.
SJActress HI SJActress. South Jersey? Anyway. A reader agreed that my way works and his response is below. I just made a video which shows that my method works. They must have 6 numbers then you must subtly reduce each of the 6 digits by 1.
ua-cam.com/video/vwhpqlozW7g/v-deo.html
I often chuckled when watching him explain it.
A french mentalist is doing it on his show, I really didn't know how he did it ! Thanks
A tv show? Or here on youtube?
No, I meant a stage show.
Thats pretty neat! Now you know how he does it!
Yes Thanks ! He did a completely different presentation : he randomly picked someone in the audience, he hypnotised him, while the spectator was in transe he read out loud his 5 numbers, then he asked him to say 6 digits which was coming to his mind. Then he waked him up and voila ! He says his subconscient added the 5 numbers and the digits which came to his mind was the total. I thought it was an awesome presentation !
Thank you so much for sharing this superb mathematical effect. Love the devious verbal miss-direction with the slipping of the modified 'Dummy Number'. Very inspiring!! I might incorporate this sneaky adding principle into a future card effect creation, if you don't mind. If I ever do a card trick video using this principle in some way, I will definitely mention your channel (with your permission of course) - where I found this awesome principle!! Thanks so much again for sharing! Great detailed video explanation/presentation by the way!
Wouldn't the trick work better if you subtract the 4 real numbers from 101111. They can choose 1 then.
One easy trick to prevent them from choosing 1 as their first number would be to tell them they can't choose the same number twice--but ONLY say that if they choose 1. So...since you chose 1, they would have to choose something else.
Um hi what if they want to look at your list at the end to see if you cheated or not??? 😣
+Katie!!! !!! yeah exactly what i thought, that would be the first thing i would do
MOST IMPRESSIVE! Hard work leading to a great mystery! Thanks!! Blessing on your new baby & wising you & your family many happy days ahead!
Pick a 3 digit number, reverse it and subtract the smaller number from the larger number. Don't use the same number for all 3 digits, and don't have the same number for the first and last digit.
EXAMPLE # 1: 742 - 247= 495 ... the 4 and 5 of the answer = 9 ... the middle number will always be 9.
However, sometimes the answer is 99
EXAMPLE # 2: 877 - 778 = 99
Regardless, the total of the answer will always equal 18, and there will always be a 9 in the 'ten' spot (second digit from the right).
This can be used in a trick with a book, maybe using the 18 as the number of the page and the 9 as the number of the word.
But I would use something more complicated, maybe I'll use the 9, as the constant for the word number, but for the 18, I would make them multiply it by 4, to make it appear even more random.
You can even add depth to the effect by forcing them a card previously in an unrelated trick, just so you can recall it like "Let's multiply that number to... Oh, remember what was your card?, the 4 of spades, let's say 4".. Or 6 or whatever you chose.
I think the more layers you can add, the better the effect.
To elaborate a little more, this would force a word prediction.
But you have to see the posibilities to get an interesting word out of the page you want to predict; the more inusual the better.
Toward the end, he almost said "If you don't believe me, just watch" a year before Bruno Mars released his Monster Uptown Funk hit. That would have been real Mental-ism. He said, Don't believe, you'll see or something to that affect.
not Bruno mars song
1st of all, it was incredibly hard to concentrate with such a beautiful helper, some people are just waaaay too beautiful lol... 2nd of all, use this with caution: use number 111 instead. Generate 4 numbers (each one has 2 digits) that totally relates to your life (could be your birthday, special dates, whatever, to build that plot of human connection), then use a Swami Gimmick for the 5th number created out of the 2 digit number the spectator will give you. You adding the number 1 at the beginning shouldn't be an issue if you have the right presentation and pacing. It will melt brains.
Apart from influencing the person by saying "chose a number *between* 1 and 9" instead of *from* 1 to 9, I don't really see how this is mentalism. It's just math / a play with numbers. Or what did I miss?
It's math to the performer, but still a mystery to the audience. Mentalism isn't sorcery.
Dan Friedman I know, but mentalism is about reading or influencing other people's mind (at least according to other mentalists): where is the reading/influence here (apart from what I point out in the OP)?
MetteC5 I believe it's the prediction in and of itself that is considered mentalism.
Finchman123 Hm, I see what you mean, but that's not what I understood mentalism to be (reading or influencing other people's minds).
+MetteC5 mentalism is creating the "illusion" of controlling/influencing ppls mind
4:02 Does she not take a look at his numbers? So I guess you have to avoid that.
This works great! I don't know how, but it does. Thanks!
I'll have to give this a try, and I know just who to try it out on. Thanks!
I have an idea of making ap app for Andoid which generates 4 random numbers that sum up to 111,111 and then you say "But maybe my phone is set to do something" so then you generate 4 more numbers and you show they are different. Alright, you tell them they can press the generate button as many times as they want, that app simply generates 4 random numbers of 5 digits, that they don't know they sum up to 111,111. So they will feel sure about the randomness.
Then to choose the 5th number you can make a lot of things, for example you can ask each person of the audience for a number from 1 to 9 meanwhile the person that chose the first number is copying down on paper, and mentally you count the number that you need to complete the 5 digits sequence. For example the last number you need is 29,763, you will go to random spectators asking for a random number from 1 to 9 untill 2,9,7,6,3 have been said by somebody. At that poin you say "Alright, so listening to people I gathered up a random number they chose, the only numbers that I remember they said, I asked a lot of people, and the numbers are 29,763" (Not sure this is a good way of camouflaging it) and the rest is the same.
I never did magic to anyone, I'm just fascinating and I'm learning card magic tricks at the moment. Tell me if this seems like a good idea.
Overall loved the idea, thank you for sharing.
Did you just try to comment on your own comment? Lmao
No... I meant his idea. His video
I enjoyed that as a maths savvy person.
Can I write the numbers on paper? what about thick paper? Can you explain that for ten more minutes?
You can allow them to pick zeros - just not for the second number of the six, the first number they pick after you've written the one. When you do the subtraction, treat the zero as ten, subtract one, leaving you nine.
This was originally a Larry Becker trick, I think, called Some Total. Richard Osterlind modified it and Becker republished it as Some Total Radio. He made further updates which he published in his excellent book "Stunners" which is a collector's item these days.
Not sure why Robert Bullock was screaming at you. No courtesy online these days.
Lol. I've seen this one before, but I always love to watch it being performed.
What if they ask the 5 digit number we have to cross check it with theirs ?
I'm curious on this too. But I think that is part of the deception of it, part of the show. You have to make them not pay attention to that. Really, they have no reason not believe what's happening because you had these numbers at the beginning and they basically picked the numbers at random after you already had them written down.
These tricks does not succeed always, these only work with people who hate maths and are already frustated with adding and do not care about anything else.
ajay singh Well, the idea is that it's an illusion. It's complicated enough that, if done right, people can't figure it out, that is why you are burying the dummy number. I have given people my list and they look and they don't even pick up a number is different. Not because they aren't good at math or they are fed up, but because there are a lot of moving parts, a lot of places where something could have happened they have missed. It's also, like all magic, part of the show. You showed them numbers, maybe you even showed them some of the numbers you were reading as you read them. In their mind the numbers are fine.
Its all about success rate. 80-90% wont pick it. But then their will always be those 10% and same is the case with magic\illusion as you rightly pointed out.
You are approaching a magic tutorial as if it were preparation and instruction on a fully-staged theatre piece; it's not.
The playwright provides the actor with lines first. Based on those lines, the director instructs the actor on blocking and motivation that will align with what the actor is saying.
A magic tutorial works in the opposite direction. A director (tutor) instructs the actor (magician) on blocking and motivation (tricks and arc). It is then up to *you*, the magician (playwright), to examine the blocking and motivation and come up with lines (patter) that will make the movement make sense.
In the end, the audience will suspend their disbelief (willingly or unwillingly) only to the extent that the combination of what they are seeing and hearing makes sense and can be followed.
Good patter is the key to a trick like this. Intelligent people are as easy to fool as unintelligent people (and in some cases, their confidence in their competence makes them *easier* to fool). If you are unable to fool intelligent people, you probably cannot fool unintelligent people, and you need better patter, simple as that.
2:44 her face.. hahaha. So I am not only one who bothers parents and sister with magic.. haha xD
Great performance and tutorial! :)
what if they have wrote a 1 in there chosen 6 digit number .so do we have to minus 1 from that even or not ?
I will for sure be using this! Awesome!
Great Trick! Thanks.
I tried it and failed.. LOL. I memorized my numbers but I mixed one of them (28412 instead of 24812), and I was off by 4 thousand. I felt tiny embarrassed. On a bright side, I was wrong only by 3% of the target number and tried to present it like a partial success.
I will be smarter next time.
Thanks again.
Cool. Thanks for sharing.
I don't wanna know about your facebook page before everything. Impress us with what you have up your sleeves, keep us interested, make the audience want you to tell them about your pages, all of them. Good luck ;)
Derren Brown is the mentalism master.
Hey Man, love it! Already tried it out in my brother and sister and loved it! Thanks man
Sorry to be a bugaboo, but I have great news to report. You DON'T Have to use a 1 for the first digit. I played around with it and the chosen number of 864,428 works fine by just subtracting 1 number from each column. Therefore the 3rd number you give will be 753,317, but I doubt that they will be the wiser when they are marveling at all numbers equaling their randomly chosen number. I hate limitations on tricks and the only true limitation to this seems to be no zeros. I work with a finicky group, but I suspect that they would catch on to the first number always being a one quicker than they would to one of the numbers being 6 digits or a variation on the key number. Just a thought.
the problem is that your third number won't be a 5 digit number. 753,317 has 6 digits. I believe the condition is only 5 digit numbers are on the list.
I noticed that you weren't reading from your paper right away. But still a good trick!
I liked it. I dig the style of the dude.
I agree; he tried to present this patiently without overwhelming the viewer.
good stuff bro. subbed!
Weird that you didn't think to fail safe the 1 problem by making your 4 non-dummy numbers add up to 101,111 and then make the first number equal to the one they have instead of subtracting 1 (the other 1s don't matter because X0XXX, X00XX or any other combination with 0s in it are still 5 digit numbers, the first digit is the important one).
+valdez87 what
justin carter
See above
Just an all around bad idea. You would end up saying “and the third number I have written here is [their number], which obviously tips the method.”
He is wearing a livestrong wristband. Is this 2005?
+MrBuggab00 So the guy can't show his support for cancer awareness because it's not fashionable any more? Haha.
+Heisenberg
I just did an ice bucket challenge for kony 2012.
Can't believe Nicole Arbour abused this nice guy.
Dan Mitchell lmao!!
+Dan Mitchell --- Huh???
I had to look up who that was. How or where did she abuse me? I’d like to see :)
WhiteArtsMagic He was making a joke because she abused another UA-camd who looked like you lol. But great trick.
@@MetroVideos which UA-camr?
I do have a question...since you invited questions. What do we do when our subject yanks the business card away from us and starts comparing the numbers, like she did at 4:03 in this video? Obviously we can not allow that.
I agree. Could have been much shorter, man. But it is pretty cool and you should totally take that to a classroom LOL.
THNX XD
dude why so much detail?
All you have to do is dance in a symmetrical fashion while you talk to them.
get them to match your disposition (energetic, happy, or sad)
say something and
*snap*
they agree with you.
Its a how to video fucktard. THERES TOO MUCH MATH IN MY MATH
I can tell you, why you haven´t seen this effekt being performed yet.
Because every layman will wonder, what is really written on the prediction card and ask the performer to hand it out.
I have seen a routine based on this technique performed on stage.
The assistind spectator was emediately sent back to his seat, so he had no chance to ask any question and the programm continued.
But in a close up situation (espacially with friends) the is no chance to get away with it.
Done this plenty with a rare occasion of curious people. Most dont ask. Get the card out of site after and move on, they will never ask. If they do, you are doing it wrong. Learn crowd control
wow that was great.. thank you for this tut it is so helpful.. but please help me what if they pick another number 1?
+Alexie Bordes What seems to be the issue?
WhiteArtsMagic love what your doing. I’d appreciate if you email me at thomasbeachnewaza@gmail.com for some chat about magic. I’d really appreciate it as I do magic and always love to learn more about something I simply know little of. Also the magic I do know is so limited when I compare myself to well anyone half decent. Not my strong suit magic but it’s a fun hobbie and maybe it will turn into something more.
THats Very cool 'en awsme buddy!!!!
I like this trick. Thanks for sharing it.
That was awesome..thanks for uploading
Couldn't you use 101,111 instead of 111,111 to eliminate the problem of having the 1 at the start?
My attention lasted until 7 minutes but by that point I realised it was just an exercise in addition.
Ah I used to do a trick similar to this but its slightly different. Im not sure if you know of it but I'd be happy to explain it if you'd like
Very neat, I've subscribed. Thanks for sharing this with us; Jesus Christ Bless! :)
how can you pass the person your note with the numbers on without them noticing the difference?
I completely agree, fantastic trick and would love to try it but I know the next thing would be to ask for the card
WhiteArtsMagic can you explain what you did when she grabbed the card or was it nothing and she figured it out?
Great, thank you. What happens is they say one for the second number
Thanks for the tutorial :)
Like the trick, Only thing the numbers can not be shown to the audience as they may notice the 5 numbers are not the same...otherwise it's good....:)
How do you keep the spectators from trying to re - check all the numbers at the end and make sure they are the same?
we just need 5 digit four nos. with a sum of 111,111. Why do u have to tell us about the subtraction while explaining about choosing the random nos.?
Wouldn't most people want to see the the paper afterwards
I want to do this trick, but what happens if they want to see all the numbers at the end of the trick from your card
When the participant is adding up all of the numbers i bet the whole theater gets pretty quite...so i was wondering if you could tell a story of some sort to keep the tension going, but i am having difficulty thinking if ine...can you give me any suggestions please
This is awesome!
What do you do if they want to check the numbers?
The problem is if she sees the dummy number. I'd put it at the 4th or 5th position so she doesn't bother reading after the first 2 or 3 numbers are confirmed.
You could force 'correct' numbers (ie. not picking 1 or 0) by having them select/rearrange playing cards numbered 2-9
This is actually a good idea for a variation. However, you'd have to force an Ace as their first "free" selection, because the first number has to be a 1 for the trick to work.
I use this method with Aces - nines being 1-9. After the free choice, turn the cards face down. (This requires that you remember the number so you can do the math in your head.) If the participant chooses a boring number like 2-3-4-5-6, then the first and last while face down, again remembering the face down number in order to do the math. (You can't do that changes with a written number.)
Then in the reveal, turn over the cards to show how they are the exact total of the participant's numbers.
Also, my patter stresses the notion that I am mentally influencing her choice of numbers. I believe that without some patter about ESP, this is simply a number trick that anyone could discover and learn, not mentalism.
I was thinking...instead of showing them ANY numbers at first, you could write down the four 5-digit numbers on a business card, and just don't write down a dummy number at all...keep the business card in your lap and just tell them "I have some numbers written down in my pocket..." or whatever. if you had a tiny little pen or pencil also in one of your hands, you can quickly do the math in your head after they show you their 6-digit number to get the REAL 5-digit number you need, and maybe even while giving them the whole story behind the trick you can be silently writing down that key 5th 5-digit number you need on your card in your lap out of everybody's sight...the only thing you would need to get good at would be writing in your lap very covertly without actually looking down at what you're writing. doesn't seem like it would be that hard. -then you can just pretend to pull the card out of your pocket,(while reaching into your pocket with the business card and the tiny pencil already in your hand, you can just drop the pencil in your pocket right before you pull the card back out, leaving behind the evidence of the pencil) and you would actually have all 5 exact numbers you need already written down. It would just be that much more amazing then after they actually add up to the person's number. You could pass your card around and let everybody see with their own eyes that you had all the numbers written down before the person even picked their number, instead of just putting the card away quickly. People would fucking freak out and call you a wizard then for sure! hahaha
You are the fucking wizard.
Why would they pick 0 when you asked between 1 and 9 anyway at the start?
At the end of the trick... your sister took the paper with the numbers... did she compared them with the summed up ones and discovered the trick and the dummy number?
very cool, new subscriber now,,, cheers
***** Do you think if the mentalist writes a 5-digit number at the same time when the spectator does, the original 5 numbers (i.e. with the mentalist's "dummy" number) would add up to that 5-digit number the mentalists chose at the same time when the spectator chose his?
Why don't you get the spectator to choose the 1st number between 1 and 9 too? It'd Still work
Why should the first digit always be 1 (one)?
what if she wants to see the card with the 5 numbers and sees the dummy number doesnt match the 3rd number she wrote down?
After you name the numbers for the spectator to write it down, put your numbers away. Out of sight out of mind. Usually they wont even think about it, since they think they saw the numbers as they wrote them down, because they do see most of them. Get the card out of sight and just refer to the list they wrote down
***** Even after I showed my brother the list twice, (without him noticing the dummy number) he still insisted on seeing the list again
+WhiteArtsMagic I just watched it again and your sister (who is very cute) picks up your card at the very end to look! What happened after that?
Since his sister is probably the most suspicious person on the planet, I'm sure he was busted.
When she grabs the little card to look at it, won't she see you changed the third number?
Awesome!!
how do u get the dummy number replaced by the original one
cause in ur case ur audiance checked the slip with the numbers out
how would i get it done to give that effect