Cool video. One of my coworkers at Illinois Central School Bus informed me the electronic parking brakes on the Internationals malfunctioned and were nothing but trouble for mechanics, so they did away with them altogether. We got a handful of 2018 CE units this year, and they are absolute garbage. They sent out all but one of our 1st generation Blue Bird Visions to make room for the things. Hate International; they're junk, no offence.
I found it nice that this bus has three wheelchair spots. Our Arizona-speced buses have three wheelchair spots. In the Scottsdale Unified School District #48, we use type-C buses for wheelchair buses since 2002. I mostly rode on a type-D rear engine bus until summer 2010. I graduated from the district in 2014.
Interesting specs for sure. We have sort of an "inverted accessories" style spec on our CEs. All the air brake buses had electric doors/stop arms and didn't have air suspension or seat and our Hydro brake buses have all air accessories. Maybe I'm just not familiar with grey rims and the whole extra reflective tape and stuff but where I'm from this bus would definitely turn some heads lol.
My favorite IC CE is the old 2005 ce200 series that had no IC logo above the door and the real short brown seats. It also has a bendix parking brake, and an Allison automatic transmission 2500pts. It also had the black lines that go along side the bus below the brake lights and blinkers and above the lights in the back. It had front blinkers on the body not the hood too
The Wabco"full power " electronic brake system they used with the push button parking brake was an expensive nightmare to keep working. Every single part of it had multiple issues that were never made reliable . They just gave up and went back to the old 1990's system. But at least its a pedal brake instead of a hand brake.
The wabco system used a axle mounted drum brake with a cable going to a frame mounted hydraulic cyllinder which was powered by the wabco unit . It was a rube goldberg disaster but was great for the driver when they worked . We generally had to replace every thing on average about every 3rd year( the rust belt) to the tune of many thousands per vehicle and half the time was a tow bill as well because it would lock up the brakes when one of the pump motors seized up and the system lost pressure.
wistech Wow. Hope IC designs their CE replacement better. Or, just go back to air brakes because there are fewer issues with air brakes compared to hydraulic brakes.
@@BusMaster99 don't be. I was half awake when i wrote that and it didn't click in my head that an electronic brake is different from an air brake lmfao
The electronic parking brakes ALWAYS got stuck when I worked for the school district... usually at the absolute WORST times as well cause our district required the parking brake at every stop...we used the GMC bluebirds until they stopped allowing them to make gassers (which had the manual hand brakes)then we switched to the IC CE's.... always had issues with the parking brakes and a few defects with a no-start symptom
BusMaster99 totally!! Great videos man!! I stumbled across your page because I used to have a 3.0 X-type sport.. mine was also the same color as your XJ8, platinum...absolutley LOVED my Jag..(yours is way better though) until the transfer case started whining which I knew would cost an arm and a leg so, unforutnently had to say goodbye :( thought it was super ironic though that we look roughly the same age, both drove school buses and both had platinum Jaguar's😂😂😂. Plus, I use to work for D303.. Saint Charles!
BusMaster99 it must be mandatory in your district to have hydraulic brakes unlike mine. My bus driver told me that this year they're supposed to be getting bluebird vision buses.
Another thing I've noticed about these buses is with the turn signals in the front the circular ones not all of ic buses have those not sure if its because of the schools or not I'm unsure though
My district has been getting IC CEs for the past 5 years now, and because of the braking change, they switched to Blue Bird Visions for this year. We have always had air brakes and our district wants to continue that trend.
Hydraulic brakes? Isn't that a bit outdated in the world of air brakes? They still have the yellow parking break, but you got hydraulic brakes, not air brakes.
Well one of the school dist i went to well they just got brand new 2021 Blue Bird buses. You the shocking part is. That they are going with propane buses as they new school buses. Yep looks like Propane buses are starting to take over. I have mix feeling about it because i love the sound of the diesel buses. Like the 2005 IC Ce that i rode in for 3 years. That will always be my baby bus i even named her Bessie. And i was just told that they don't know how much longer then Bessie would be around for.
I love your videos mr Bus master 99 I noticed that you like the video tape newer cars and I like the video tape older cars. I like to take videos of older buses and older cars And bus master 99 Likes to take videos of newer cars and new buses
IDK it just does. I am in New Mexico and not Illinois. I will be uploading Bus Ride Videos soon on My Channel known as Bitzer Dog. You will see My. 2019 CE with electronic Parking brake there. Although I'm not sure if it has a Cummins ISB or a B6.7, but I think a B6.7. I will have to ask My Driver.
Yea I feel that way to, For scholastic Co. I got one of the news buses has 4,500 Plus miles on it and it has no AIRBRAKES. Internaltion I am shocked that they now use electronic parking brake, It make me upset that they are now ditching Air brakes, I have A good feeling they removed it for money as airbrakes are harder to install and cost way more money. Come On Ic you know better...
I did a pre trip inspection on my 2005 Ford John Deere T444E lovely engine btw but it sounds amazing i am only in 5th grade and i love diesel engines for some reason why
true the main reason most people tow buses from the rear so that they don't have to pull the driveshaft or axle shafts the only time that they would tow from the front is if it broke down on a freeway or a divided highway or the front tires are flat or blown or if the front axles are broken mini buses non cdl can fit on rollbacks
Marcos Antonio Roman Almanza Not sure I can be of much help. I just film buses. I have no affiliation with the bus barn whatsoever. Sorry for the inconvenience.
![Driving a 2020 IC CE w/Exhaust Brake [Cummins]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/gBluu1C1u1w/mqdefault.jpg)
Cool video. One of my coworkers at Illinois Central School Bus informed me the electronic parking brakes on the Internationals malfunctioned and were nothing but trouble for mechanics, so they did away with them altogether. We got a handful of 2018 CE units this year, and they are absolute garbage. They sent out all but one of our 1st generation Blue Bird Visions to make room for the things. Hate International; they're junk, no offence.
I'm not offended. I even said IC no future.
BusMaster99 true and that next stop thing that they are doing is gonna be renamed the next failure
Did anyone else here HEY!!!!As he got on the bus
ICCE580 Lmfao.
then she yells HANG ON!
I found it nice that this bus has three wheelchair spots. Our Arizona-speced buses have three wheelchair spots. In the Scottsdale Unified School District #48, we use type-C buses for wheelchair buses since 2002. I mostly rode on a type-D rear engine bus until summer 2010. I graduated from the district in 2014.
Interesting specs for sure. We have sort of an "inverted accessories" style spec on our CEs. All the air brake buses had electric doors/stop arms and didn't have air suspension or seat and our Hydro brake buses have all air accessories. Maybe I'm just not familiar with grey rims and the whole extra reflective tape and stuff but where I'm from this bus would definitely turn some heads lol.
My favorite IC CE is the old 2005 ce200 series that had no IC logo above the door and the real short brown seats. It also has a bendix parking brake, and an Allison automatic transmission 2500pts. It also had the black lines that go along side the bus below the brake lights and blinkers and above the lights in the back. It had front blinkers on the body not the hood too
Thomas buses will always be my favorite...
My school district in Mississippi purchased 13 new CE300s last year, plus my school district is with Ecco Ride.
I really like the T444E and the DT360
They just don't make things like they used to.
@@BusMaster99 you can say that again
The Wabco"full power " electronic brake system they used with the push button parking brake was an expensive nightmare to keep working. Every single part of it had multiple issues that were never made reliable . They just gave up and went back to the old 1990's system. But at least its a pedal brake instead of a hand brake.
wistech So that's why the electronic parking brake was ditched?
The wabco system used a axle mounted drum brake with a cable going to a frame mounted hydraulic cyllinder which was powered by the wabco unit . It was a rube goldberg disaster but was great for the driver when they worked . We generally had to replace every thing on average about every 3rd year( the rust belt) to the tune of many thousands per vehicle and half the time was a tow bill as well because it would lock up the brakes when one of the pump motors seized up and the system lost pressure.
wistech Wow. Hope IC designs their CE replacement better. Or, just go back to air brakes because there are fewer issues with air brakes compared to hydraulic brakes.
C2's will always be my favorite!
Weird because I ride on a 2018 CE and it still has the yellow parking brake switch
I am in disbelief.
@@BusMaster99 don't be. I was half awake when i wrote that and it didn't click in my head that an electronic brake is different from an air brake lmfao
The electronic parking brakes ALWAYS got stuck when I worked for the school district... usually at the absolute WORST times as well cause our district required the parking brake at every stop...we used the GMC bluebirds until they stopped allowing them to make gassers (which had the manual hand brakes)then we switched to the IC CE's.... always had issues with the parking brakes and a few defects with a no-start symptom
Matt Szurko Shit! Sounds like a recall should have been made.
BusMaster99 totally!! Great videos man!! I stumbled across your page because I used to have a 3.0 X-type sport.. mine was also the same color as your XJ8, platinum...absolutley LOVED my Jag..(yours is way better though) until the transfer case started whining which I knew would cost an arm and a leg so, unforutnently had to say goodbye :( thought it was super ironic though that we look roughly the same age, both drove school buses and both had platinum Jaguar's😂😂😂. Plus, I use to work for D303.. Saint Charles!
Nice it's a wheelchair bus! It reminds me of the one that I was on in my last year of high school that I did a video of for you.
No air brakes though.
BusMaster99 it must be mandatory in your district to have hydraulic brakes unlike mine.
My bus driver told me that this year they're supposed to be getting bluebird vision buses.
Another thing I've noticed about these buses is with the turn signals in the front the circular ones not all of ic buses have those not sure if its because of the schools or not I'm unsure though
Some states require them while others don't
I've seen a ic ce in Florida with a propane 8.8l v8, air brakes, and yellow rims. I live in Florida
My district has been getting IC CEs for the past 5 years now, and because of the braking change, they switched to Blue Bird Visions for this year. We have always had air brakes and our district wants to continue that trend.
Ryan Raimondo Don't the CEs still have an air brake option? I just checked icbus.com and it still says air brakes are optional.
I was told that our dealer didn’t offer air brakes...crazy, right?
Ryan Raimondo They clearly do not know what they are talking about.
Nice DOT how we use to do it till they got the Zonar crap
Can you do a 2020 ic ce start up and lamp check
Hey, I got a quick question about the 2 way radio.
Okay, fire away.
So I know that school bus 2 way radios are synched to a certain band? Right? Is thanks band still on a channel that can be changed or no?
@@alvinmccranie6978 Not sure.
Our district uses 2012-2016 IC RE's 2005's as spares and we only use the electronic parking brake
You have REs with Electronic parking brakes? Also we have 1 spare left, an 05 CE that's got one of those brakes.
This video was 3 years ago, but I feel that foot parking brake is a step back. The electronic yellow parking brake should come back.
Yeah. Not really sure why they did away with the SAHR system.
Hello my Name is samuel Caine I need you help my BuS
When I was in kindergarten my bus driver did the same thing WHILE DRIVING! :904
Hydraulic brakes? Isn't that a bit outdated in the world of air brakes? They still have the yellow parking break, but you got hydraulic brakes, not air brakes.
Crisp Cuts Landscaping Yes.
Same as my bus ic 2018 and it's from Tulsa Oklahoma
Does this bus have a fire suppression unit since it is a wheelchair bus?
rmatt24 Nope.
BusMaster99 Oh ok. It's not required in your State? I work on school buses in GA.
rmatt24 Nice!
Do they go to First Midwest transit?
What was this recorded on???
Kyron Poullard Samsung Galaxy S8 Plus.
Does this bus use a Cummins engine?
The title says so.
N14.
Our 2018 IC CE's have Electronic parking brakes
You sure about that?
@@BusMaster99 yes they only allow them for the CE's
What state is this in? Do your buses have A/C?
Illinois. Only the shorty and wheelchair CEs have A/C.
IC no future. Get it?
I don't get it.
IC: I see.
BusMaster99 Haha
I know about this. I've been into buses for almost 6 years.
I have a lot of different interests. That is my secret.
Well one of the school dist i went to well they just got brand new 2021 Blue Bird buses. You the shocking part is. That they are going with propane buses as they new school buses. Yep looks like Propane buses are starting to take over. I have mix feeling about it because i love the sound of the diesel buses. Like the 2005 IC Ce that i rode in for 3 years. That will always be my baby bus i even named her Bessie. And i was just told that they don't know how much longer then Bessie would be around for.
What spec is this bus?
IL spec.
I like the DT better but this is also a great engine.
I like the N14.
My IC CE Buses Have Air Brakes And Air Ride But It Has The Electric Door And Side Emergency Doors But The CE’s Are 2017 And 2018 With Propane
GN MR BUSMASTER99 , I LIKED THE NEW IC 2018 , how much.
Um... what?
Not for sale until the get new ones in 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025, 2026, 2027, 2028, or 2029
Is this bus hydraulic brakes
Yes.
Cool I love it
KING C JR I'm glad you do. I don't like this as much as I like the older ones with the electronically controlled park brake.
I love your videos mr Bus master 99 I noticed that you like the video tape newer cars and I like the video tape older cars.
I like to take videos of older buses and older cars And bus master 99 Likes to take videos of newer cars and new buses
What kind of car do you have?
2004 Jaguar XJ8.
BusMaster99 make that a 2014 civic SI now. That’s the right kind of car, what are the odds a Honda beat the Jaguar
My CE is a 2029 and it has electronic Parking Brake.
I mean 2019 sorry.
Proof?
IDK it just does. I am in New Mexico and not Illinois. I will be uploading Bus Ride Videos soon on My Channel known as Bitzer Dog. You will see My. 2019 CE with electronic Parking brake there. Although I'm not sure if it has a Cummins ISB or a B6.7, but I think a B6.7. I will have to ask My Driver.
Does your school district have a bus number 266?
Landon Vaner Nope.
@Landon Varner he rides on #25
@@raychoncla1175 Not anymore he doesn't.
For a second I was gonna say it was a IC BE lol.
Skyironminecraft RBLX Those aren't made anymore since they couldn't find an engine for it.
Yeah and it cant be a BE cause they stopped building them in 2015 but this is a 2018.
@@BusMaster99 they could have fit the cummins v5.0
@@uAKING2006 or a duramax 6.6 v8…
Yea I feel that way to, For scholastic Co. I got one of the news buses has 4,500 Plus miles on it and it has no AIRBRAKES. Internaltion I am shocked that they now use electronic parking brake, It make me upset that they are now ditching Air brakes, I have A good feeling they removed it for money as airbrakes are harder to install and cost way more money.
Come On Ic you know better...
Bus 43 has 1 midship 2 rear
I did a pre trip inspection on my 2005 Ford John Deere T444E lovely engine btw but it sounds amazing i am only in 5th grade and i love diesel engines for some reason why
rest in pepperonis electronic parking brake...
Lmao.
No electronic parking brake. Hmm... Our new 18' CEs have the electronic parking brake.
Edit: I mean air parking brake.
Then you're lucky...
I tell you though, I'd prefer IC buses than bluebird I really don't like their buses.
100% agreed
Electronic parking brakes suck because it makes buses hard to tow because you have to fiddle with it I prefer mechanical parking brakes or air brakes
That is why you tow with the back end up.
I would tow buses from the rear unless it is a rear engine if I was a tow truck driver
true the main reason most people tow buses from the rear so that they don't have to pull the driveshaft or axle shafts the only time that they would tow from the front is if it broke down on a freeway or a divided highway or the front tires are flat or blown or if the front axles are broken mini buses non cdl can fit on rollbacks
@@GLOATINGMAPLE01 You replied to yourself???
ACT is the best
+BusMaster99 the bus that i ride to and from school everyday just got upgraded to a 2018 IC CE
Awesome!
That was a sarcastic comment wasnt it
No.
9:04
I used to ride a bus in 2 grade bureau valley in wyanet illonas
I rather ic buses than blue bird buses because blue birds are really ugly
Those new round orange lights on the front look so stupid
Why are you so negative?
I don't oWn Scholastic but I am on the new bus route
Aaaand it’s probably retired by now
Hello my name is marcos Roman i'm looking for work thank you
Marcos Antonio Roman Almanza Not sure I can be of much help. I just film buses. I have no affiliation with the bus barn whatsoever. Sorry for the inconvenience.
BusMaster99 thank you
SORRY BRO , MY ENGLISH IS VERY BAD , TALK SPANISH SORRY LOL.
All good. 👍