500 subscribers! Not much compared to some of the big channels out there, but we couldn't be more grateful for the support! Thank you! 🥳 Next stop 1000? 🤞
Keep on ploughing away mate, the sky is the limit when Your cars and Your videos are this well sorted. Cheers for the Legnum, You don't see many around and this one is a jem 🍻
I purchased and imported a VR-4 into Australia in 2006 (purchased before compliance was available in Australia, that cleared when it was on the ship). I paid 355,000 Yen at auction with no idea what I was buying (a mate in the scene convinced me to do it). Still to this day it was the best car I have ever owned!
@@fallingwatersnz It was extremely reliable, but it was low Kms when I got it (under 100k) and I serviced it at regular intervals with with mechanics who understood JDM cars (big factor). For major service’s I researched and sourced parts direct from contacts in Japan and New Zealand. Wish I still had it!
Bought my Evo 6 brand new in 1999 here in the UK. Still have it, and it changed my life both automotively and philosophicaly. I immediately joined the most prolific Evo club at the time, the MLR, and became heavily involved in the scene. Meets were frequent and heavily attended. What was brilliant about that time was ALL, the performance Mitsubishis were present at the meets, so I remember the Legnums, Gallant VR4s, 3000s, FTOs, Pajero Evos (one of my favourites) and of course, the now Ultra rare, Lancer 2000 Turbo, the car that started it all. Have driven most of them, been in all of them and now, looking back, it's apparent that is was a special and glorious time, never to be equalled or repeated. I'll never part with my Evo, it's actually difficult to grasp that it's 25 years old this year! It's not radically modified, I've deliberately limited tuning to 500 bhp at the wheels, any more and it starts to get expensive with tranny upgrades. It has suspension and brake upgrades, strut braces, aero undertrays and a myriad of minor improvements. The most recent mod is a cooler worx short precision shifter, short of a sequential box that is the most effective mod for the trans, superb quality, looks works and feels fantastic. So yes, the 90s was Mitsubishis golden era with such a proliferation of performance cars, and I feel so lucky to have been around and active in that scene. Shame it's all gone so wrong for the diamond star.
I went from an Evo 3 to a VR4. I miss the Evo dearly but I adore my Legnum. In my advancing age I just love how daily drivable it is lol. Boulder County Colorado
@St.PatricksTrades2 no, a friend from back when I autocrossed out there is an importer and I was planning to bring one over as prices landed are around 11k.
@St.PatricksTrades2 I wanted to learn more about what living with one is like and what the driving experience is, to make the final call on whether it's the car for me. I am selling my mr2 spyder in a couple weeks and that will cover it. I daily an 8th Gen Si and have a 996 turbo as a fun/track car. I want this as a cruiser and cars and coffee car.
I'm a VR-4 man, Ive owned a Evo 0 monte carlo (VR-4) and a ZR-4 in New Zealand. LOVED the 4G63T boosting all over town, tracks and drag strips . I have to admit that when my friends dad bought a Galant VR-4 with the V6 twin turbo motor, I laughed (big 4G63 FAN boy here lol. BUT OMG his dad took it down to the melling lights (wellington) on Thursday night.... with his boost up and was cleaning up with the tiptronic gearbox. When I went for a ride in it OMG it was so smooth with that v6 and torquey especially compared to my then ZR-4 Really loved these years of mitsubishi!!
New video for the new year! We had some audio challenges with this one, apologies if the sound quality isn't quite up to standard! Hope you enjoy (and love the random FJ40 Land Cruiser that shows up at 18:14!)
The reason they're a bit thin on the ground these days is 1: They got ran on 91 and run hard, which melted the engine and 2: they got ran hard and into a tree because they wouldn't pull up on the stock brakes
When I first saw that auto dash cluster I was thinking "probably not the best car to be reviewing", but I saw a manual conversion there and breathed a sigh of relief. The autos aren't much cop in these, although there are a couple of DSM guys in the states that have built them for drag racing, although there's not much left that's OEM Mitsi inside. My mrs has one and I've done a little bit of work to it myself, mainly cosmetics and a full panel and paint job on it. Similar sort of setup, instead its using TD04s out of a Subaru Forester on custom manifolds. We got lucky that a crowd in Hampton Downs got hold of a set of jigs to make VR4 manifolds. The power curve sounds pretty similar to the TME turbos, which are a stock TD03 housing machined out to take a TD04 wheel. We thought about going this road but at that stage the TME turbos were very fresh on the market. Plus the Subaru flange opens up a few upgrade options if ever we wanted to go that way. We tuned to 260kw to the tyres, it made 280kw with a badly heat soaking intercooler. I know there's 300kw in it but at that stage you're knocking on the limits of the stock rods. Sadly it hasn't run in a couple of years and it might not run for a while longer yet as we can't get Gull 98 up here anymore. The brakes on these are, well, appalling, we even went FTO twin pot front brakes and its still not enough to haul these things up. I'm used to cars with monster big brakes on them (had my share of Lexus V8s and european Fords and Audis) so flying into the first corner of the Hampton Downs club circuit with the brakes doing not much was a bit disconcerting. Also, yes, they all rattle the lifters, even on rebuilt engines with quality aftermarket lifters (like the one in the Mrs' VR4), they'll still chatter a lifter or two. A bottle of Pro-Ma MBL8 does shut them up for a while, but at $70 a bottle per oil change, it gets pricey
ive owned 2 galant vr4 and 1 legnum vr4 they are such great cars, if you want family, comfort and fast this is the way! bit of a dog to work on but there worst cars around still! and the AYC diff is something else makes it drive so well for the size/weight, i remember taking same corners to test all my cars and see what speed, the galant consistantly went 20kph fast than my gc8 wrx (both had decent coilovers) , i actgually had to reteach my brain because it feels like it shouldnt be possible, but it really works, if youve never seen the 3 AYC bars light up youve never fully used it whacky feeling at first because it start pulling you round the corner, but allows so much grip at high speed turns as it splits toqrue to outside wheel once you use it and trust it, best AWD system imo by far, id say they absolutely need good coilovers to feel responsive, as they came as a touring sport car rather than gtr full sport suspension. I also had a mirage very recently with a 6a12mivec v6 from the fto gpx, also a very very underatted motor would beat out a type r civic ek4 all day in the mirage (only weighed 900kg)
Great video, I am about to complete an OEM motor rebuild and am currently at the stage of umm and ahhing about turbos. Thankfully an OEM rebuild isn't that expensive but if you go built motor etc it gets expensive fast. Issues like having to order 2x sets of something from another car coz it's a V6 etc... This video hit about every nail on the head and Adam is an absolute wizard when it comes to these things. He has helped me a lot with my own build from across the pond.
Perfect combination on this car - facelift, Trigger Mauve, arch extension pieces and Evo V wheels. Back when I was obsessed with the Galant/Legnum this was my dream combo (okay, maybe Pyrenees black but close).
I absolutely love these cars, I think they are a very attractive car too. They have a great mix of aggression and style. They remind me a bit of my Vrx Magna and Ralliart Magna here in Australia. (Diamante in NZ) The Vrx has a 3.8 from the 380, it’s been cammed and turned to 195kw 476nm torque at the wheels, LSD manual too. Its a very fast and capable car, and surprises everyone that comes in contact with it
When I first moved to Japan I got one for about $200 USD (I didn't forget a zero). Was a blast to drive until the motor blew about 1.5 years into owning it.
Eh, seeing how these are used in nipponland I'm betting you had a bit to do with it blowing... But yeah, these and some other JP rocketships are cool, lots of things there I've never seen elsewhere, good and bad. I'll never forget that weird egg inspired car-cum-nokiaphone thing they had tons of 10yrs ago. I can't think of the name of it, it doesn't quite come close to anything else...
It passed inspection. And had no issues at the time. Previous owner admitted it needed head gaskets and was getting to that age when he was contacted afterwards (hence $200). It could have been saved for sure had I known. A few years later I got a SG9 6 Speed... it got rear-ended and totaled 4 years after owning it. I think I am not meant to own fast beastly wagons. As for the odd car, Cappuccino?
@@LamontGilkey No, not the Cappuccino although that's an odd one too, but the Cappuccino still looks like a real car, just smaller. The thing I'm thinking of doesn't look like a real car, it looks like an egg timer, and a nokia 3110 phone had a lovechild with 4 wheels, I can't explain it better. They said it's not even a Keicar, it's taxed etc as a full size car. It is small, but a bit wider than keicars, and very 'rounded' in design. It wasn't that common, but I did see like 5-6 of them in about a month, all light muted pastel colors with a silver midline stripe if I remember correctly. If you'd take a nokia 3110 and a Mini, and morph 50% between them, you'd have it pretty much...
@@LamontGilkey No, the Honda beat looks more like a car, the thing I'm on about is far more rounded and appliance like, sort of like a rice cooker design language, but in a car. I've been trying to remember what brand it even was and I can't. The weirdest thing with it was that from a distance it didn't look that odd, but the closer you got the more weird it got. I saw it around 2013-2014 or so and it for sure wasn't brand new then, my guess would be that it's maybe 2008-2010ish give or take a couple of years. Hard to estimate because of how it's designed, it's different enough not to fit an era in terms of design. I'll try to search for it and comment back if I find it, but in terms of look it looks low, short and sort of wide, it's the width that makes it not a keicar according to my ex-father-in-law.
Exellent channel, I just found You and the first car I see is a Legnum. Good on You mate, thanks for the effort You put in to showing Us the treasure. Best hopes for the channels success, You've got My sub right away 🍻
I've wanted one of these since highschool in 2017! I'm in the US, and have had 2 3000gt vr4/Stealth/GTO. A 93 montero /pajero and an 09 lancer. I hope to own all the cool 90's mitsus qt one point in my life. But Legnum is next! Cool channel!
I just stumbled across your channel and subscribed bro. Chur for the great content! Especially covering what is a rather unique JDM model. A bit of constructive criticism (opinion). Whilst the quality and presentation is top notch, the runtime could be cut down and condensed a little, maybe by five to ten minutes, to suit the attention spans of your average youtuber. Keep up the great work!
Cheers bro! Thanks for the kind words and constructive feedback. To be honest - totally agree about the length. We filmed a LOT of raw material on this one (first cut was ~35 minutes). Plan is for future videos to be tighter - likely in the teens like our GR Yaris vid 👍
Got a 1996 for real cheap a couple weeks back, and it may not LEGALLY be roadworthy quite yet, but it's an insanely powerful car for my 18yo self, and a huge upgrade from my first and only other car, an 02 bone stock lancer 😂. I've got bigger td04 turbos, big intercooler, all the rabbit hole mods as you called them lmao, adjustable suspension, manual, facelift, same wing as the one in this vid, big bore exhaust, subs and an amp in the boot, the list goes on really. Go find one like mine, with all the bells and whistles but with a scruffy exterior, and a few odd leaks and missing bumpstocks to repair 😅. Mean ASF car, 10/10
Lusting after these around 2005, I decided the Magna AWD might be a safer option. Which it probably was. Magna AWD was the best car I've had. 10 years later an inatentive ..... Ran up the back and finished it. I was fine after major accident. Would buy another if new!
I didn't realise but back home it's "Regnum". I have a Galant estate, same colour and body kit as this Legnum only I have a 2.4 GDI. I'm not disappointed because I get to drive around in a car like that at a realistically affordable rate, ofc I would love a VR-4. The suspension on these is spot on I just love how they drive. Back from a time when Mitsubishi Motors meant something!
We only got the previous body style vr4 here in the states. It was a 4cyl single turbo and only sedan [saloon]. They were considered a fast car at the time. We did have a vrx sport sedan in the next body. 24v 3l v6. Was a nice car. Gallants were really overlooked and under rated here.
heck yeah i love these. I hope you come across a Mitsubishi 380, they're a bit of an anomaly in their own way. glad to see a kiwi jdm channel. we have so much janky JDM goodness !
Makes me wish i kept my 85 Supra that i myself swapped out and rebuilt a turbo motor for . And resprayed it myself . It was fun and wow , it was fast . Go jdm 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I only recently found out about this car, and love this version too over the later one. Both cool tho. Its like the bigger V6 version of the Evo Wagon lol. But imo looks way better and more seamless.
Beautiful car I have a pfl legnum that's currently getting all that work done! It's A71 silver with a sunroof and I love it. You're right about the steering it's very long ratio but hoping it can be changed with a steering rack replacement from a lancer.
I love Legnums but really don't like the community. They trash talk anyone who builds their own car and hasn't taken their car to a "reputable shop" any question u have is answered with "take it to reputable workshop" like a paid sponsor ad or a cheerleading squad. The main issue with these cars is because there is no aftermarket support and 90% of community don't work on their own cars they have an opinion on everything. my mate and i have heavily modified single turbo converted legnums here in Australia. we both aren't active in the community because they drive us crazy
I miss my Legnum vr4, even it was pain in arse to keep on road, i borke water pump / clutch / line in stearing rack in a bit less than 2 years. Only mods i had BC coilovers, wheels and tires and boost raised to 1bar. Nobody had removed Limiter so its top speed was 184km/h at 4th gear and 180km/h on 5th. It might been good because it got to top speed fast ennuf to get in trouble.
had one of the fairly rare Super Legnum VR4 as a near new car back in the day - imported it privately from JPN myself - mainly because they were so much better than the equivalent similar 4wd turbo wagon from Subaru
Such a super cool car! I`d seen the very occasional one of these of the road here in the UK and seeing the badge saying VR4 i assumed they were a Cosworth/Evo/Impreza type 2.0ltr 4 pot turbo? I never released they were more of a Skyline GTR type thing?
This car was a hero car for me, back in 2000/2001, or be it I only had the brochure 😂. I was driving a 1.6 Carisma at the time, but was obsessed with Galants, I prefered the Saloon version of the VR-4. This car was well known over here in Ireland/UK (I live on the border) among petrol heads, I guess it depends what age group your audience is. I'm 49 🤭 and remember the motorway police using them. I would love a one with a manual transmission and leather interior now. 👌
Imported my 97 legnum vr4 car of the year edition last year to North Carolina. It's been so awesome. Great fun and it's nice to get asked everyday what is it?! Lol
I´m from Austria, not Australia. I have an EVO 6 RS2, an EVO 9 Wagon Manual and a Legnum VR4 Manual AYC as a Wintercar and i simply love the VR4. Yes, it´s not an EVO in terms of steering and suspension, but it´s the perfect snowdrift machine. I also updated the reardiff to SAYC from the EVO 9 and did some toe in in the front and toe out in the rear, so it´s turning in quite nicely. The engine has not that much topend power, but it´s much more responsive than the 4g63 in an EVO. I don´t know what has been done to the turbos in this car and why the Legy is lagy, cause with stock turbos it´s absolutely not. Wonder why the owner didn´t change the steering wheel to the smaller EVO 6 version, as it´s p&p. This car is so much fun to drive, if you know how to set it up, it has so much space and i still love the stands of this 28 year old Wagon.
I always liked these cars, but no matter what I saw them when trying them out they always felt really heavy, ended up going for a legacy gtb instead. Now this one in particular looks pretty damn cool, not gonna deny that
This is in the same category as Subaru Legacy B4 twin turbos. A sick car in theory, but always owned by someone who can't quite afford to take care of them. In snowy Western Canada, a lot of both of them get imported and passed around. In the right hands, they can be fantastic snow cars, but they almost never end up in the right hands.
First time i saw this car i think this is bmw superwagon 😅😅😅 - Funfact : Let me tell you the truth, the shape of the Galant VR-4 is based on BMW because Mitsubishi likes BMW so much that they want to have their own BMW. That's why it's so BMW-like inside and out.
Had a galant vr4 for 10 years. One of AMS early customers. My 1.6 turbo Kia Forte GT blows it totally out of the water! I can be in 6th gear at 35 and tip in and beat you in third! Go see for yourself. Fell in love with the 1.6 in 04. My aveo was so badass I ditched the Evo!
as someone who owns a galant irl, just wanted to mention that ever since the 6th generation galant lost its rally participation to evos, I think mitsubishi didnt want the galant series to die just yet since it was a recognizable series so in the mid 90s basically mitsu didn't have cars dedicated on the "LUXURY SEDAN MARKET" as advertised in asian market (dunno if western market is the same) but they had the galant compete with other brands with the almost same dimensions and engines which usually is a V6 (ex. HONDA ACCORD, NISSAN CEFIRO, TOYOTA CAMRY) After the 6th Generation Galant, all the following generations 7th 8th 9th gen were luxury sedans and had a Wagon version namely the "Sports GT Wagon" for 7G and "Legnum" for 8G As for 9G, Well we dont talk about the 9G hahaha
It's called the 'GALANT' in UK and other places. I remember them well. Saloon versions as well.. We had more of the Saloon version in the UK. The GALANT was a Lombard RAC Rally Winner... So not Forgotten by everyone.
If you have had a lot of R33 GTR experience. Id love to see your review of a Nissan Stagea 260rs. I think they have fantastic steering and handling plus the RB26. The RS Four S is the Rb25 version in manual. I found the 26 cars drive very differently to the Rb25 cars. Curious how they came to the Legnum. I comsidered buying 1 but wanted an Rb engine for the aftermarket support. I do like the styling of the Legnum.
@@gav240z I would LOVE a chance to drive a 260RS (wink wink nudge nudge to anyone out there who owns one...) And I think I agree... The purple is iconic.
Nearly anyone who speaks fast Mitsubishi AWD will mention Lancer EVO before the Galant/Legnum VR-4 because the EVO was much more popular. The 4G63 also had a lot more aftermarket support and it stayed in the Lancer until 2010, far past the Galant when it was replaced with the V6 in the 1992 model year. I do have a love for JDM Wagons, but not the complexity of Mitsubishi's 6A/6G engines.
I valeted a white Legnum VR4 when i started working in 2004 in the UK and said to myself id love one in the future... i have not seen one since.. where did the UK ones go?
A friend of mine in the states imported one from UK. It's plagued with rust. I wonder what the numbers are with how many landed in UK vs how many of those may have been claimed by rust
Im currenty restoring a '96 legnum. Does anyone know a) how much power the autobox can handle? And b) how much power the standard crankshaft can take? Thanks
Those years, the bonnet and head lights, lamp cluster, look good. The engines are rough and unrefined. The magna of Australian ?design-manufacture? is a smoother ride. There are cars like e-class estate and mark-x zio and saab with pretty good looks. Petrol engines are, sounding smooth but if you take out the sound, or tune for sound, a diesel may be a much better-flexible option for quiet-people. Wagon-estate are for car people refusing to admit a van is a smarter choice. Short changed height.
The vr4 in my opinion is just as good as a gtr even better because the v6 is smoother the chassis is amazing also. Plus when you single turbo it it's a beast
There is a fabricating shop in upstate N.Y prototyping parts from the Evo 9,X and 3000GT/stealth. He had a Twin scroll turbo upgrade. A Radium engineering fuel system an A.E.M ecu. I had a class With one of the fabricators, and he explained was purposely trying to break s..t. To check for week points.
Would love to! I've never driven a K20 engined car and would love to change that. Reach out if you know of any in NZ (preferably lower North Island) with a willing owner!
Manual purists complaining in the comments xD Jokes aside, Legnums are nice, a friend of mine has a Legnum VR4 (automatic of course and he isn't going to swap it to manual) and it is a comfortable-ish car to sit in and be a passenger in, probably because the leather seats are quite comfortable (Compared to my Evo V's recaros lol). I would probably have one as well but I'm sticking to my Evo for now :P Also the other thing I noticed in my friend's Legnum VR4 is that the turning radius is a lot better than in Evo, despite both being AWD.
Fun fact: Mitsubishi and Subaru battle accross all of their model lineup Galant vr4 VS Legacy RS Lancer evo VS Impreza STI Legnum vr4 VS Legacy Wagon specB Airtrek turbo VS Forester XT
@@jdmclassicsnz that’s sick! I’m in love with the car! I’m not familiar with that V6 so I have to ask how much power can you put down before you need to go into the block?
500 subscribers! Not much compared to some of the big channels out there, but we couldn't be more grateful for the support! Thank you! 🥳
Next stop 1000? 🤞
Keep on ploughing away mate, the sky is the limit when Your cars and Your videos are this well sorted. Cheers for the Legnum, You don't see many around and this one is a jem 🍻
501 I'm pretty sure.
922 now
I purchased and imported a VR-4 into Australia in 2006 (purchased before compliance was available in Australia, that cleared when it was on the ship). I paid 355,000 Yen at auction with no idea what I was buying (a mate in the scene convinced me to do it). Still to this day it was the best car I have ever owned!
You scored bro
Yooo sick value
Good to know. I’m currently looking at importing a VR4 To Melbourne.
How was the reliability?
@@fallingwatersnz It was extremely reliable, but it was low Kms when I got it (under 100k) and I serviced it at regular intervals with with mechanics who understood JDM cars (big factor). For major service’s I researched and sourced parts direct from contacts in Japan and New Zealand. Wish I still had it!
this face of the galant/legnum for me is one of the best looking car ever made.
Bought my Evo 6 brand new in 1999 here in the UK. Still have it, and it changed my life both automotively and philosophicaly. I immediately joined the most prolific Evo club at the time, the MLR, and became heavily involved in the scene. Meets were frequent and heavily attended. What was brilliant about that time was ALL, the performance Mitsubishis were present at the meets, so I remember the Legnums, Gallant VR4s, 3000s, FTOs, Pajero Evos (one of my favourites) and of course, the now Ultra rare, Lancer 2000 Turbo, the car that started it all. Have driven most of them, been in all of them and now, looking back, it's apparent that is was a special and glorious time, never to be equalled or repeated. I'll never part with my Evo, it's actually difficult to grasp that it's 25 years old this year! It's not radically modified, I've deliberately limited tuning to 500 bhp at the wheels, any more and it starts to get expensive with tranny upgrades. It has suspension and brake upgrades, strut braces, aero undertrays and a myriad of minor improvements. The most recent mod is a cooler worx short precision shifter, short of a sequential box that is the most effective mod for the trans, superb quality, looks works and feels fantastic. So yes, the 90s was Mitsubishis golden era with such a proliferation of performance cars, and I feel so lucky to have been around and active in that scene. Shame it's all gone so wrong for the diamond star.
Cool story bro. I like Mitsubishi a lot myself. My whole 22 years on here.
I went from an Evo 3 to a VR4. I miss the Evo dearly but I adore my Legnum. In my advancing age I just love how daily drivable it is lol. Boulder County Colorado
Looking at buying one and a Colorado native. Would love to pick your brain about your experiences with the car if you're willing.
@@silverbullitt850 are you on discord?
do you have one picked out already? I'm looking to get back into a 4x4 and Im willing to move mine, it needs a paint job
@St.PatricksTrades2 no, a friend from back when I autocrossed out there is an importer and I was planning to bring one over as prices landed are around 11k.
@St.PatricksTrades2 I wanted to learn more about what living with one is like and what the driving experience is, to make the final call on whether it's the car for me. I am selling my mr2 spyder in a couple weeks and that will cover it.
I daily an 8th Gen Si and have a 996 turbo as a fun/track car. I want this as a cruiser and cars and coffee car.
Having been a passenger in this wagon, I can confirm it's a damn nice ride.
Also good timing at 24:54 with the FTO and Legnum in the same shot.
I'm a VR-4 man, Ive owned a Evo 0 monte carlo (VR-4) and a ZR-4 in New Zealand. LOVED the 4G63T boosting all over town, tracks and drag strips . I have to admit that when my friends dad bought a Galant VR-4 with the V6 twin turbo motor, I laughed (big 4G63 FAN boy here lol. BUT OMG his dad took it down to the melling lights (wellington) on Thursday night.... with his boost up and was cleaning up with the tiptronic gearbox.
When I went for a ride in it OMG it was so smooth with that v6 and torquey especially compared to my then ZR-4
Really loved these years of mitsubishi!!
Best looking wagon period.
New video for the new year! We had some audio challenges with this one, apologies if the sound quality isn't quite up to standard!
Hope you enjoy (and love the random FJ40 Land Cruiser that shows up at 18:14!)
I imported one a few months ago here in the states, I love it. Best looking wagon IMO. Great video.
USA VR4 gang!
The reason they're a bit thin on the ground these days is 1: They got ran on 91 and run hard, which melted the engine and 2: they got ran hard and into a tree because they wouldn't pull up on the stock brakes
I LOVE my legnum, its my first jdm car and i absolutely love everything about it
Its the same purple too
When I first saw that auto dash cluster I was thinking "probably not the best car to be reviewing", but I saw a manual conversion there and breathed a sigh of relief. The autos aren't much cop in these, although there are a couple of DSM guys in the states that have built them for drag racing, although there's not much left that's OEM Mitsi inside.
My mrs has one and I've done a little bit of work to it myself, mainly cosmetics and a full panel and paint job on it. Similar sort of setup, instead its using TD04s out of a Subaru Forester on custom manifolds. We got lucky that a crowd in Hampton Downs got hold of a set of jigs to make VR4 manifolds. The power curve sounds pretty similar to the TME turbos, which are a stock TD03 housing machined out to take a TD04 wheel. We thought about going this road but at that stage the TME turbos were very fresh on the market. Plus the Subaru flange opens up a few upgrade options if ever we wanted to go that way. We tuned to 260kw to the tyres, it made 280kw with a badly heat soaking intercooler. I know there's 300kw in it but at that stage you're knocking on the limits of the stock rods. Sadly it hasn't run in a couple of years and it might not run for a while longer yet as we can't get Gull 98 up here anymore.
The brakes on these are, well, appalling, we even went FTO twin pot front brakes and its still not enough to haul these things up. I'm used to cars with monster big brakes on them (had my share of Lexus V8s and european Fords and Audis) so flying into the first corner of the Hampton Downs club circuit with the brakes doing not much was a bit disconcerting.
Also, yes, they all rattle the lifters, even on rebuilt engines with quality aftermarket lifters (like the one in the Mrs' VR4), they'll still chatter a lifter or two. A bottle of Pro-Ma MBL8 does shut them up for a while, but at $70 a bottle per oil change, it gets pricey
ive owned 2 galant vr4 and 1 legnum vr4 they are such great cars, if you want family, comfort and fast this is the way! bit of a dog to work on but there worst cars around still! and the AYC diff is something else makes it drive so well for the size/weight, i remember taking same corners to test all my cars and see what speed, the galant consistantly went 20kph fast than my gc8 wrx (both had decent coilovers) , i actgually had to reteach my brain because it feels like it shouldnt be possible, but it really works, if youve never seen the 3 AYC bars light up youve never fully used it whacky feeling at first because it start pulling you round the corner, but allows so much grip at high speed turns as it splits toqrue to outside wheel once you use it and trust it, best AWD system imo by far, id say they absolutely need good coilovers to feel responsive, as they came as a touring sport car rather than gtr full sport suspension.
I also had a mirage very recently with a 6a12mivec v6 from the fto gpx, also a very very underatted motor would beat out a type r civic ek4 all day in the mirage (only weighed 900kg)
VR-4 wow 😊 thanks for this video 😊
Great video, I am about to complete an OEM motor rebuild and am currently at the stage of umm and ahhing about turbos. Thankfully an OEM rebuild isn't that expensive but if you go built motor etc it gets expensive fast. Issues like having to order 2x sets of something from another car coz it's a V6 etc...
This video hit about every nail on the head and Adam is an absolute wizard when it comes to these things. He has helped me a lot with my own build from across the pond.
Yes, yes he is
He's helped with both my VR-4 builds, absolute legend
Perfect combination on this car - facelift, Trigger Mauve, arch extension pieces and Evo V wheels.
Back when I was obsessed with the Galant/Legnum this was my dream combo (okay, maybe Pyrenees black but close).
I absolutely love these cars, I think they are a very attractive car too.
They have a great mix of aggression and style.
They remind me a bit of my Vrx Magna and Ralliart Magna here in Australia. (Diamante in NZ)
The Vrx has a 3.8 from the 380, it’s been cammed and turned to 195kw 476nm torque at the wheels, LSD manual too.
Its a very fast and capable car, and surprises everyone that comes in contact with it
this are cars once you own, you never want to sell
When I first moved to Japan I got one for about $200 USD (I didn't forget a zero). Was a blast to drive until the motor blew about 1.5 years into owning it.
Eh, seeing how these are used in nipponland I'm betting you had a bit to do with it blowing... But yeah, these and some other JP rocketships are cool, lots of things there I've never seen elsewhere, good and bad. I'll never forget that weird egg inspired car-cum-nokiaphone thing they had tons of 10yrs ago. I can't think of the name of it, it doesn't quite come close to anything else...
It passed inspection. And had no issues at the time. Previous owner admitted it needed head gaskets and was getting to that age when he was contacted afterwards (hence $200). It could have been saved for sure had I known.
A few years later I got a SG9 6 Speed... it got rear-ended and totaled 4 years after owning it.
I think I am not meant to own fast beastly wagons.
As for the odd car, Cappuccino?
@@LamontGilkey No, not the Cappuccino although that's an odd one too, but the Cappuccino still looks like a real car, just smaller. The thing I'm thinking of doesn't look like a real car, it looks like an egg timer, and a nokia 3110 phone had a lovechild with 4 wheels, I can't explain it better. They said it's not even a Keicar, it's taxed etc as a full size car. It is small, but a bit wider than keicars, and very 'rounded' in design. It wasn't that common, but I did see like 5-6 of them in about a month, all light muted pastel colors with a silver midline stripe if I remember correctly. If you'd take a nokia 3110 and a Mini, and morph 50% between them, you'd have it pretty much...
About what year do you think it is? I am way curious now. Honda Beat?
@@LamontGilkey No, the Honda beat looks more like a car, the thing I'm on about is far more rounded and appliance like, sort of like a rice cooker design language, but in a car. I've been trying to remember what brand it even was and I can't. The weirdest thing with it was that from a distance it didn't look that odd, but the closer you got the more weird it got. I saw it around 2013-2014 or so and it for sure wasn't brand new then, my guess would be that it's maybe 2008-2010ish give or take a couple of years. Hard to estimate because of how it's designed, it's different enough not to fit an era in terms of design.
I'll try to search for it and comment back if I find it, but in terms of look it looks low, short and sort of wide, it's the width that makes it not a keicar according to my ex-father-in-law.
Exellent channel, I just found You and the first car I see is a Legnum.
Good on You mate, thanks for the effort You put in to showing Us the treasure.
Best hopes for the channels success, You've got My sub right away 🍻
great vid ! surprised to see a high quality vid from nz
Saw this parking in one of the house in malaysia. Very rare sight to see.
And its beautiful. Im sure the owner wouldnt want to let it go.
I've wanted one of these since highschool in 2017! I'm in the US, and have had 2 3000gt vr4/Stealth/GTO. A 93 montero /pajero and an 09 lancer. I hope to own all the cool 90's mitsus qt one point in my life. But Legnum is next! Cool channel!
I just stumbled across your channel and subscribed bro. Chur for the great content! Especially covering what is a rather unique JDM model. A bit of constructive criticism (opinion). Whilst the quality and presentation is top notch, the runtime could be cut down and condensed a little, maybe by five to ten minutes, to suit the attention spans of your average youtuber. Keep up the great work!
Cheers bro! Thanks for the kind words and constructive feedback.
To be honest - totally agree about the length. We filmed a LOT of raw material on this one (first cut was ~35 minutes). Plan is for future videos to be tighter - likely in the teens like our GR Yaris vid 👍
Awesome Video man! Wishing more success to the channel in the new year!
I loved mine, they were very rare in the UK. I hope in the future I'll garb one for sunday drives and restore it.
Got a 1996 for real cheap a couple weeks back, and it may not LEGALLY be roadworthy quite yet, but it's an insanely powerful car for my 18yo self, and a huge upgrade from my first and only other car, an 02 bone stock lancer 😂. I've got bigger td04 turbos, big intercooler, all the rabbit hole mods as you called them lmao, adjustable suspension, manual, facelift, same wing as the one in this vid, big bore exhaust, subs and an amp in the boot, the list goes on really. Go find one like mine, with all the bells and whistles but with a scruffy exterior, and a few odd leaks and missing bumpstocks to repair 😅. Mean ASF car, 10/10
I have the 4G63 sedan version of that called the Galant :D best car ive ever had :D love it till this day after all the years its been with me
Subscribed , great channel, great machine!! Wish you many subscribers 🎉
Lusting after these around 2005, I decided the Magna AWD might be a safer option.
Which it probably was.
Magna AWD was the best car I've had. 10 years later an inatentive ..... Ran up the back and finished it. I was fine after major accident.
Would buy another if new!
I didn't realise but back home it's "Regnum". I have a Galant estate, same colour and body kit as this Legnum only I have a 2.4 GDI. I'm not disappointed because I get to drive around in a car like that at a realistically affordable rate, ofc I would love a VR-4. The suspension on these is spot on I just love how they drive. Back from a time when Mitsubishi Motors meant something!
My Galant Vr4 loves its BorgWarner turbo
Let's go, Dale!
We only got the previous body style vr4 here in the states. It was a 4cyl single turbo and only sedan [saloon]. They were considered a fast car at the time. We did have a vrx sport sedan in the next body. 24v 3l v6. Was a nice car. Gallants were really overlooked and under rated here.
Got the opportunity to get one of these for 4k AUD with a vacuum leak. Worth it? I adore the look and sound of these.
heck yeah i love these. I hope you come across a Mitsubishi 380, they're a bit of an anomaly in their own way. glad to see a kiwi jdm channel. we have so much janky JDM goodness !
Makes me wish i kept my 85 Supra that i myself swapped out and rebuilt a turbo motor for . And resprayed it myself .
It was fun and wow , it was fast . Go jdm 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Nice review.
I still have a fully built motor for these!
What have you used internally? I’ve got to rebuild my one.
What country are you in lol
@@St.PatricksTrades2 New Zealand.
I only recently found out about this car, and love this version too over the later one. Both cool tho. Its like the bigger V6 version of the Evo Wagon lol. But imo looks way better and more seamless.
Beautiful car I have a pfl legnum that's currently getting all that work done! It's A71 silver with a sunroof and I love it. You're right about the steering it's very long ratio but hoping it can be changed with a steering rack replacement from a lancer.
I love Legnums but really don't like the community. They trash talk anyone who builds their own car and hasn't taken their car to a "reputable shop" any question u have is answered with "take it to reputable workshop" like a paid sponsor ad or a cheerleading squad. The main issue with these cars is because there is no aftermarket support and 90% of community don't work on their own cars they have an opinion on everything. my mate and i have heavily modified single turbo converted legnums here in Australia. we both aren't active in the community because they drive us crazy
Awesome review, just wish Dale didn't debadge it 😂
Had mine 12 years steve from tme even had his hands on it will hand it down to my son.
Great review 👏
I miss my Legnum vr4, even it was pain in arse to keep on road, i borke water pump / clutch / line in stearing rack in a bit less than 2 years. Only mods i had BC coilovers, wheels and tires and boost raised to 1bar. Nobody had removed Limiter so its top speed was 184km/h at 4th gear and 180km/h on 5th. It might been good because it got to top speed fast ennuf to get in trouble.
had one of the fairly rare Super Legnum VR4 as a near new car back in the day - imported it privately from JPN myself - mainly because they were so much better than the equivalent similar 4wd turbo wagon from Subaru
Such a super cool car! I`d seen the very occasional one of these of the road here in the UK and seeing the badge saying VR4 i assumed they were a Cosworth/Evo/Impreza type 2.0ltr 4 pot turbo? I never released they were more of a Skyline GTR type thing?
Front end has allways reminded me of a mustang. So a muscle estate with 4 wheel drive. Nice.
This car was a hero car for me, back in 2000/2001, or be it I only had the brochure 😂. I was driving a 1.6 Carisma at the time, but was obsessed with Galants, I prefered the Saloon version of the VR-4.
This car was well known over here in Ireland/UK (I live on the border) among petrol heads, I guess it depends what age group your audience is. I'm 49 🤭 and remember the motorway police using them. I would love a one with a manual transmission and leather interior now. 👌
Imported my 97 legnum vr4 car of the year edition last year to North Carolina. It's been so awesome. Great fun and it's nice to get asked everyday what is it?! Lol
USA VR4 gang!
I'm keen to know what roads you were driving on, they look worthy of a roadtrip in themselves. Great review on the car too
I own a96 2.5 Gallant vr4 ayc manual.
Am happy with what i got
I´m from Austria, not Australia. I have an EVO 6 RS2, an EVO 9 Wagon Manual and a Legnum VR4 Manual AYC as a Wintercar and i simply love the VR4. Yes, it´s not an EVO in terms of steering and suspension, but it´s the perfect snowdrift machine. I also updated the reardiff to SAYC from the EVO 9 and did some toe in in the front and toe out in the rear, so it´s turning in quite nicely. The engine has not that much topend power, but it´s much more responsive than the 4g63 in an EVO. I don´t know what has been done to the turbos in this car and why the Legy is lagy, cause with stock turbos it´s absolutely not. Wonder why the owner didn´t change the steering wheel to the smaller EVO 6 version, as it´s p&p. This car is so much fun to drive, if you know how to set it up, it has so much space and i still love the stands of this 28 year old Wagon.
The turbos are a TD04 hybrid with the TD03 exhaust housing bored out
Your Evo 6 RS2 must be incredible to drive! I used to own a TME with a built motor. So agile, nimble and brutal to drive on the streets.
I just like this steering wheel. Works good enough for my purposes. I'm considering a evo steering wheel with audio controls though
a little bit of blue smoke never killed anybody :D
I always liked these cars, but no matter what I saw them when trying them out they always felt really heavy, ended up going for a legacy gtb instead. Now this one in particular looks pretty damn cool, not gonna deny that
Should do one on the 7G VR-4, that is the most forgotten generation of the VR-4 stable
Would love to - very rare to see these days!
@jdmclassicsnz Yeah, they are
I have one in my garage, it's a bit modified tho
00:47 Those who played Gran Turismo 4 certainly know this game, I know this car from GT PSP
What about swapping an auto one to manual? Any ideas that a 3000GT/GTO 6speed would fit?
it's a common mod, but just using manual vr4 parts
This is essentially a Mitsubishi Galant Wagon (which i never knew these exist) taken to the extreme lol
Sick and underrated wagon, i took a Subaru B4 rsk with a twin turbo instead for 3000 €
This is in the same category as Subaru Legacy B4 twin turbos. A sick car in theory, but always owned by someone who can't quite afford to take care of them. In snowy Western Canada, a lot of both of them get imported and passed around. In the right hands, they can be fantastic snow cars, but they almost never end up in the right hands.
The car burning off oil in the exhaust as it drives in the start hahahaha classic evo
First time i saw this car i think this is bmw superwagon 😅😅😅
- Funfact : Let me tell you the truth, the shape of the Galant VR-4 is based on BMW because Mitsubishi likes BMW so much that they want to have their own BMW. That's why it's so BMW-like inside and out.
Had a galant vr4 for 10 years. One of AMS early customers. My 1.6 turbo Kia Forte GT blows it totally out of the water! I can be in 6th gear at 35 and tip in and beat you in third! Go see for yourself. Fell in love with the 1.6 in 04. My aveo was so badass I ditched the Evo!
as someone who owns a galant irl, just wanted to mention that ever since the 6th generation galant lost its rally participation to evos, I think mitsubishi didnt want the galant series to die just yet since it was a recognizable series
so in the mid 90s basically mitsu didn't have cars dedicated on the "LUXURY SEDAN MARKET" as advertised in asian market (dunno if western market is the same) but they had the galant compete with other brands with the almost same dimensions and engines which usually is a V6 (ex. HONDA ACCORD, NISSAN CEFIRO, TOYOTA CAMRY)
After the 6th Generation Galant, all the following generations 7th 8th 9th gen were luxury sedans and had a Wagon version namely the "Sports GT Wagon" for 7G and "Legnum" for 8G
As for 9G, Well we dont talk about the 9G hahaha
I love the stock wheels but a set of te37's on a legnum would look mint
Always thought one of these would be cool with a facelift GTO drivetrain - 3.0L twin turbo/6 speed.
讚~漂亮！
It's called the 'GALANT' in UK and other places. I remember them well. Saloon versions as well.. We had more of the Saloon version in the UK.
The GALANT was a Lombard RAC Rally Winner... So not Forgotten by everyone.
in Aus, Galant was the sedan version, Legnum was Wagon
Awesome :)
Interesting vehicle, thank you.
If this video blows up their prices explode more than they have.
If you have had a lot of R33 GTR experience. Id love to see your review of a Nissan Stagea 260rs. I think they have fantastic steering and handling plus the RB26.
The RS Four S is the Rb25 version in manual. I found the 26 cars drive very differently to the Rb25 cars. Curious how they came to the Legnum. I comsidered buying 1 but wanted an Rb engine for the aftermarket support.
I do like the styling of the Legnum.
Oh and I wouldn't swap cars for the sunroof... I'd keep Grimmace. It's a nicer colour.
@@gav240z I would LOVE a chance to drive a 260RS (wink wink nudge nudge to anyone out there who owns one...)
And I think I agree... The purple is iconic.
Do a Mitsubishi airtrek next
Unironically keen
Nearly anyone who speaks fast Mitsubishi AWD will mention Lancer EVO before the Galant/Legnum VR-4 because the EVO was much more popular. The 4G63 also had a lot more aftermarket support and it stayed in the Lancer until 2010, far past the Galant when it was replaced with the V6 in the 1992 model year. I do have a love for JDM Wagons, but not the complexity of Mitsubishi's 6A/6G engines.
I valeted a white Legnum VR4 when i started working in 2004 in the UK and said to myself id love one in the future... i have not seen one since.. where did the UK ones go?
A friend of mine in the states imported one from UK. It's plagued with rust. I wonder what the numbers are with how many landed in UK vs how many of those may have been claimed by rust
Im currenty restoring a '96 legnum.
Does anyone know a) how much power the autobox can handle?
And b) how much power the standard crankshaft can take?
Thanks
Those years, the bonnet and head lights, lamp cluster, look good. The engines are rough and unrefined. The magna of Australian ?design-manufacture? is a smoother ride. There are cars like e-class estate and mark-x zio and saab with pretty good looks. Petrol engines are, sounding smooth but if you take out the sound, or tune for sound, a diesel may be a much better-flexible option for quiet-people. Wagon-estate are for car people refusing to admit a van is a smarter choice. Short changed height.
The vr4 in my opinion is just as good as a gtr even better because the v6 is smoother the chassis is amazing also. Plus when you single turbo it it's a beast
There is a fabricating shop in upstate N.Y prototyping parts from the Evo 9,X and 3000GT/stealth. He had a Twin scroll turbo upgrade. A Radium engineering fuel system an A.E.M ecu. I had a class With one of the fabricators, and he explained was purposely trying to break s..t. To check for week points.
those are my favorite, now after your video they are gonna become expensive😭
Whats the fuel economy of these looking like? Now that they're available in the US, I'm thinking of doing the samething.
If you're in Auckland i have a tme for you to try.
For a TME, I can find a reason to be in Auckland! Shoot us a message on insta or FB if you're keen
My VR4 has been off the road since 2015 and has 300,000km on the body. it's just sitting in my shed
Please do a review for Honda Accord Euro R (CL7R), very underrated JDM Classic!
Would love to! I've never driven a K20 engined car and would love to change that. Reach out if you know of any in NZ (preferably lower North Island) with a willing owner!
Imho the Legnum VR4 could be seen as a rival to the Stagea rs260.
Cool cars.
Surely the comparison would be to the Stagea RS-FourS/260RS, not the R33 GT-R?
Is it possible to swap a 4g63 in if the engine blows?
Yes
I own one in Chicago!
Manual purists complaining in the comments xD Jokes aside, Legnums are nice, a friend of mine has a Legnum VR4 (automatic of course and he isn't going to swap it to manual) and it is a comfortable-ish car to sit in and be a passenger in, probably because the leather seats are quite comfortable (Compared to my Evo V's recaros lol). I would probably have one as well but I'm sticking to my Evo for now :P
Also the other thing I noticed in my friend's Legnum VR4 is that the turning radius is a lot better than in Evo, despite both being AWD.
Fun fact:
Mitsubishi and Subaru battle accross all of their model lineup
Galant vr4 VS Legacy RS
Lancer evo VS Impreza STI
Legnum vr4 VS Legacy Wagon specB
Airtrek turbo VS Forester XT
Gallant
Miss my legnum😔
What about the 4 cylinder Legnum? They never get any love.
They didn't sell them in the USA did they?
No sir we're just as of 2 years ago able to access them from foreign marketplaces
That’s a sweet car. The only thing I would change is to a manual transmission
It's manual swapped!
@@jdmclassicsnz that’s sick! I’m in love with the car! I’m not familiar with that V6 so I have to ask how much power can you put down before you need to go into the block?
@@Graver81-69 No one really knows. There's quite a few of us at about 300kw at the wheels though, after that, who knows :)
10:00 $1 poo🤩
#newzealand
We called it a Mitsubishi Legroom