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It might be the actress' choice. She is top tier talent in Japan (they all are) and is very unique. Vegan, very much guided by her own inner set of rules, and I feel like if she decides she wants to be resting instead of doing promo, she would get her way
@@george90186 I thought so too. I think the reason there are so few interview videos is because she is one of the top actresses in Japan and her schedule didn't match up with hers because she was busy with other work. She has great acting skills and in some movies she is like a completely different person. I think she is a really wonderful actress.
The real Ishida Mitsunari's family was servant of Azai clan and Mitsunari and his father was recruited by Hideyoshi (and therefore saved from the destruction of Azai by the Oda). This explain how loyal Mitsunari to Lady Chacha Dono
Under less than 5 minutes, Lady Ochiba demonstrates that she is not the same sort of lady as Mariko and Fuji. Unlike those two, Ochiba is not only in charge of her own life, she is also in charge of men around despite having no official authority.
Well she's not the same with mariko and fuji she's the consort of taiko and the mother of the heir to the shogunate at this point. That authority alone makes her far more powerful than those 2. Mariko and Fuji doesn't have authority to the council so this is a bad comparison.
The model for Ochiba is Yodo-dono, one of the three most evil women in Japan. She later becomes an enemy of Toranaga (Ieyasu) over the dominance of Japan.
@@Viva-la-de-hs4ub Toranaga is not a nice guy and as this series had shown, is locked in on becoming Shogun no matter what it took. She was right to fear him.
After that, Ochiba（Yodo-dono ）confronted Ieyasu in the Osaka camp in 1615〜1615, and the Toyotomi family was destroyed . Hideyori was still young, so it was Yodo-dono who had real power
It’s not really shown in this clip but near the end when she stands up and walks towards Ishida, you can see him physically recoil a bit as she towers over him lol. You can immediately feel the power dynamic in the room is very much in her favour.
It might be because many Asian courts at the time consisted of harems. So in order to survive, those who ended up on top stayed there by being ruthless and cunning in their ways.
@@raphandant it's also a good insight into the Asian woman mindset, being asian myself I know that we were and are considered more submissive generally because of outward appearances but the inner workings are just as ferocious when something as important as a child's life and legacy is threatened.
We were deceived. Lady Ochiba was right. Toranaga, who makes the villagers search for the non-existent culprit who destroyed Anjin's ship, is a villain who always dreams of becoming a SHOGUN.
He did that to test the Anjin's loyalty to the people and country, I think. He's a villain with a genuine desire to end all wars, due to his childhood experiences as a hostage during the endless wars.
More like where cersei was based. Shogun was released 16 years before Game of Thrones and Martin derived many of the political plot elements from the book and medieval England history but with dragons and ice zombies.
@@wjm8353 Yes, in the sense that in order to have a heir to the throne. At that time the Empror and his wife can't bare a child. And looked for option to have Lady Ochiba conceived a child with the Emperor. This also happened on Joseon Dynasty too, where cortesans or concubines conceive a child with the king or emperor to continue the lineage as heir to the throne.
Might as well call it She-gun. Lets ruin a great story by making a bunch of girl bosses and destroy such great characters in the book. Yeah it makes sense a person with no armies and no politica infuence takes control of council of regents. Watch the original 80s mini series. This show has gotten stupid.
Tell me you are ignorant about Japanese history without telling me. I'm Japanese, and we grew up with history about great figures some of whom were very powerful women. Stick to Andrew Tate if you want a fantasy world with only men
If you learned your history, then you would know that it's actually the complete opposite. Many women ruled in the shadows back in the day, especially in Japan. Ochiba is based on Yodo-dono, who held a lot of power and great influence over state affairs. Fix your ignorance.
japan has 8 empress regnant .... and you say a woman has no power? Ochiba ( Yodo dono ) is one of Sandai akujo 三大悪女 ( 3 evil woman ) 1.Hojo masako ( 1157 - 1225 ) 2.Hino Tomiko ( 1440 - 1496 ) 3.Yodo dono ( 1569 - 1615 ) all of them are Midaidogoro and they interfere with politics and gain power above men
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that sweet voice and calm face with her character gives her that intimidating ruthless queen vibes.
She gives me demonic vibes.
In a show full of hard mfs, she was the hardest
Yodohime was pretty hardcore in history, even if she lost at the siege of Osaka castle
翔んで埼玉とは別人w
そしてここまで
時代劇喋りができる
若手女優がまだ存在していたことに感謝だわ
The definition of when the smile doesn’t reach the eyes 👹
二階堂ふみやっぱ演技上手いよなぁ！
これ見せた後に翔んで埼玉見せてあげたいww
Lord Ishido: Knowledge is power.
Lady Ochiba: Power is power.
Cerses Vibes
@@dailygrind1620 Lady Ochiba is 1000% better than Cersei
@@VS257nah
She scared the s*** out of me without enacting physical violence😂😂😂. I love her
0:36 the way her smile fades 😮
She is seductive, terrifying, polite and authoritative all at the same time. Great villain.
Shouldn't confuse 'antagonist' with 'villain'.
Ochiba is the epitome of the manipulator ❤❤
why there are no interviews with her. everyone was included in the cast interviews except fumi. her character is so interesting
It might be the actress' choice. She is top tier talent in Japan (they all are) and is very unique. Vegan, very much guided by her own inner set of rules, and I feel like if she decides she wants to be resting instead of doing promo, she would get her way
@@george90186
I thought so too. I think the reason there are so few interview videos is because she is one of the top actresses in Japan and her schedule didn't match up with hers because she was busy with other work. She has great acting skills and in some movies she is like a completely different person. I think she is a really wonderful actress.
二階堂ふみさん上手だよね
「Eye love you」のときと同一人物に思えないくらい
さすが女優
20代でこの演技ができる女優さんがいるとは…。
前から上手いとは思ってたけど、今回は語彙力を失うほど素晴らしい。
あの美しい貌から発する優しい言葉と強い意志を感じさせる目線には不気味な迫力が込められており、まさに淀の方もそうだったのだろうと感じさせるものがありますね。
I like how she delivers her lines. Her voice would probably be just as cheerful while talking to a person being eviscerated.
OH my, that was quite the entrance!!!
That was a villain entrance!! She is evil with a soft and seductive voice. And the soundtrack is soo dark!!!
彼女は息子の為に戦っています
イメージ悪いけど別に淀さまは邪悪じゃないんだけどな😅
she is an antagonist but i wouldn't say she's a villain at heart.
Here, voice is scary but seductive at the same time 😅 like wtf woman
I love it
1:20 - *me trying and failing to impress my tinder date*
Wow she is the perfect cast. Nice job.
I love the way this woman speaks
All the grace and courtesy of a mature court lady, laced with venomous intent.
It's an old way of speaking that we don't use anymore.
@@ももみかん-s3tcould you explain this? Is it similar to how we spoke in Victorian times in England - more posh and articulate?
@@GoodKingMortyeah it’s old Japanese, something like that.
What an incredible performance! She is a gem!
やっぱり二階堂ふみは上手い！！
視線の運び方から顔や身体の動きや角度。
最小限なのに完璧だね。
常に作り笑いを浮かべてる人が真顔になる瞬間は特に恐い。
The real Ishida Mitsunari's family was servant of Azai clan and Mitsunari and his father was recruited by Hideyoshi (and therefore saved from the destruction of Azai by the Oda). This explain how loyal Mitsunari to Lady Chacha Dono
She is gorgeous and a such a great actress, love her so much 💜 💜 💜
Fumi is such a versatile actress
The woman Cersei wanted to be.
THIS!!!
Enough with GoT references.
Shogun is 5x better than the cgi game of crap thrones
@@AidanaTrachtenbergfacts
@@byranwitherspoon5369 It's about time. GoT and Shōgun are two different shows .
Lady Ochiba is 1000% better than Cersei
The girl channeling the dark force energy at the end scene......
Under less than 5 minutes, Lady Ochiba demonstrates that she is not the same sort of lady as Mariko and Fuji. Unlike those two, Ochiba is not only in charge of her own life, she is also in charge of men around despite having no official authority.
She’s literally in charge of the whole country, to be fair.
In lieu of her husband she acts as regent
Hey she’s the mother of Taiko’s boy that’s the ultimate authority you can ask for in this day and age
Should be interesting to see what she is trying to pull
Well she's not the same with mariko and fuji she's the consort of taiko and the mother of the heir to the shogunate at this point. That authority alone makes her far more powerful than those 2. Mariko and Fuji doesn't have authority to the council so this is a bad comparison.
The model for Ochiba is Yodo-dono, one of the three most evil women in Japan. She later becomes an enemy of Toranaga (Ieyasu) over the dominance of Japan.
She helped toranaga kill of ishido and then later becomes his enemy again?
@@Viva-la-de-hs4ub Toranaga is not a nice guy and as this series had shown, is locked in on becoming Shogun no matter what it took. She was right to fear him.
@@kevinganchero2104 ohh , but he did bring centuries of peace in japan , so why isn't he a nice guy?
@@Viva-la-de-hs4ub not nice doesn’t mean his intentions were bad. It just means he’s not a goody two shoes. He plays dirty if needed.
@@kevinganchero2104 ah okay
After that, Ochiba（Yodo-dono ）confronted Ieyasu in the Osaka camp in 1615〜1615, and the Toyotomi family was destroyed .
Hideyori was still young, so it was Yodo-dono who had real power
Amazing how terrifying she seems and betrays the real life charm and beauty of the actress...from Eye Love You. Great acting
二階堂ふみさんのこの演技。NHKの「テンペスト」で既に片鱗が見られます。
この落葉を見るとSHOGUNがseason1で終わるのはもったいない ぜひ関ヶ原の後の大阪の戦いも同じキャストでseason2として作ってほしい
もう6歳で今川家の人質になるところから始めてほしい
今川焼。
淀殿(落葉の方)の人生は藤に負けないぐらいの波乱万丈の人生です。
Love Lady Ochiba.
It’s not really shown in this clip but near the end when she stands up and walks towards Ishida, you can see him physically recoil a bit as she towers over him lol. You can immediately feel the power dynamic in the room is very much in her favour.
This part was scary for some reason. 😂
Lady Ochiba is giving off yōkai vibes.
Nioh confirmed canon?
the lighting is so legit in this scene
what is it with evil Asian queens? Lady Ochiba and Queen Cho (from Kingdom) are both scarier than their European counterparts.
For any woman to rise and survive in that period… they have to be the sharpest blade.
It might be because many Asian courts at the time consisted of harems. So in order to survive, those who ended up on top stayed there by being ruthless and cunning in their ways.
Far more dangerous than Cersei ever was
@@raphandant it's also a good insight into the Asian woman mindset, being asian myself I know that we were and are considered more submissive generally because of outward appearances but the inner workings are just as ferocious when something as important as a child's life and legacy is threatened.
True. Even here in the Philipipines we have Imelda Marcos
a pleasant surprise to find out lady ochiba is the same actress in eye love you.
Ikr.. What an actress. She even changed her voice
Focused intensity is the best way to describe Fumi's portrayal of Lady Ochiba.
Her eyes are soooo huge jesus, freaks me out even more
Yodo-Dono IRL 🔥🔥
最近見た大河の北川景子の淀殿も狂気的で魅力的だったけど二階堂ふみの淀殿も蠱惑的で魅力的だ
綺麗すぎる
why there hasn't been any interviews with her talking about her character in shogun? fumi nikaido always stealing the spotlight!
So scary
畏怖を体現しているような雰囲気…
As she stares at herself with mirror it reminds me of the film "Ring"
Creepy. It's like her eyes turned black at the end of the scene, revealing that she is in fact the devil.
We were deceived. Lady Ochiba was right. Toranaga, who makes the villagers search for the non-existent culprit who destroyed Anjin's ship, is a villain who always dreams of becoming a SHOGUN.
He did that to test the Anjin's loyalty to the people and country, I think. He's a villain with a genuine desire to end all wars, due to his childhood experiences as a hostage during the endless wars.
is it me or her voice and the way she talk gives you an uneasy vibe, really good acting
its true. same me
Ara ara...
What a intro!
Lady Ochiba reminds me of Lady Kaede from the Akira Kurosawa movie "Ran".
It is almost like watching Game of Thrones in Japanese,impeccable screenwriting indeed.
CHACHA!
Cersei has Ochiba’s photo in her bedroom
おふみちゃん❤
We got our new Japanese Cersei 😮.
Please. With what we've seen thus far, Cersei WISHES she had that kind of pull. It's the eyes. They say it all. This is NOT someone to be 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 with.
More like where cersei was based. Shogun was released 16 years before Game of Thrones and Martin derived many of the political plot elements from the book and medieval England history but with dragons and ice zombies.
@@inigobantok1579 This is something I wasn't aware of.
Yea it's a reasonable comparison but she is much smarter than Cersei. She's more like what Cersei imagines herself to be.
She’s more of a Cersei + Margaery mix.
音楽も照明も建物の高さも何か違う。
この子は美少女図鑑出身なんだよな。。。
if one read history, they realised Ochiba and Ishido are less dangerous, devious and cunning than The "Tanuki" Toranaga.
沖縄の誇り✨
She is the boss alright.
@@halisonlheman6299
That's a scary performance. Nice✨
やっぱ沖縄の顔やなー綺麗。
“The council will answer to me.” POWERFUL WOMAN! 🔥
落ち葉の方（淀の方）のオーラはもう完全に憑依していますな。
石田光成のイシダは発音はイシドーでいい。
サブイボが出るほど落ち葉の方は淀君がノリうつったやうに様に妖しい・・・。
They way she talks sort of reminds me of Satan in the Passion of the Christ
I can totally hear it!
怖すぎっ！ホラー映画かな？w
Lady Hardcore
「翔んで埼玉」の萌美さんとは大違い。
さっさとやれ！ってか😅
Yay - we got her back!!!! :)
Ummm, can Toranaga take her back? :(
やばい😰どうしても埼玉のメイクが頭に浮かぶ😂
怖い！！！！
シーズン2の主要人物はレディ落葉にすべき。
虎長と落葉の心理戦が見たい！
怖えぇぇぇぇぇぇぇ
Ochibabygurl
淀君は悪女だから、日本シチズンには
嫌われてます。
しなし、二階堂ふみさんは、コメディも
こなす実力派の人気女優です。
コメディも最高にぶっ飛んでいて面白い。
Who else thinks she talks like a CGI character?
She speaks like a female anime villain with prominent status. I'm not alone, am I?
who is she?
Fumi nikaidou
@@ももみよ-d9y I mean in her role
@@wjm8353Lady Ochiba of Shogun. Courtesan of the former Emperor.
@@fredrickabundo740 so she’s a nobody until she gave birth to the emperor son?
@@wjm8353 Yes, in the sense that in order to have a heir to the throne. At that time the Empror and his wife can't bare a child. And looked for option to have Lady Ochiba conceived a child with the Emperor. This also happened on Joseon Dynasty too, where cortesans or concubines conceive a child with the king or emperor to continue the lineage as heir to the throne.
fancy intonations from both participants of this conversation
It makes me wonder how she could rise? Blackmail and affairs, surely?
魔性の女キャラは西洋にはなかったと言う訳はなかろう。
Oda Nobunaga's daughter
The real-life person this character was based on was actually Oda Nobunaga’s niece.
@@LittleMissV Yes, it was changed for the show for more dramatic effect.
邦画の方も照明もっと頑張ろ
You call this cringe acting good? Try hard to be dangerous but ... meh
Might as well call it She-gun. Lets ruin a great story by making a bunch of girl bosses and destroy such great characters in the book. Yeah it makes sense a person with no armies and no politica infuence takes control of council of regents. Watch the original 80s mini series. This show has gotten stupid.
Ochiba is based on a real woman... Yodo-dono. Stop being this ignorant. LOL....
@@genremags8317 "But I don't like it when stories are woke!....even if it is historically accurate..."
この物語に醒めたりしないよ。二階堂ふみや穂志もえかの演技はこの物語をさらに奥深く素晴らしくしている。
家は女性が守るという決まりは日本の母系社会的な一面でもあるのだ。
そして日の本の臣民は天皇陛下の赤子たちでもあるのだ。
You know nothing of Asian culture.
Tell me you are ignorant about Japanese history without telling me. I'm Japanese, and we grew up with history about great figures some of whom were very powerful women. Stick to Andrew Tate if you want a fantasy world with only men
A women during that time 1600s never came in power, only in tv shows, stupidly ridiculous
If you learned your history, then you would know that it's actually the complete opposite. Many women ruled in the shadows back in the day, especially in Japan. Ochiba is based on Yodo-dono, who held a lot of power and great influence over state affairs. Fix your ignorance.
Read a history book please, you have no idea the power empress dowagers and queen mothers held
@@raphandantYes, even Ishido(Ishida Mitsunari) could not ignore her.
japan has 8 empress regnant .... and you say a woman has no power?
Ochiba ( Yodo dono ) is one of Sandai akujo 三大悪女 ( 3 evil woman )
1.Hojo masako ( 1157 - 1225 )
2.Hino Tomiko ( 1440 - 1496 )
3.Yodo dono ( 1569 - 1615 )
all of them are Midaidogoro and they interfere with politics and gain power above men
@@baanaabeeabout Hojo Masako. Was she official shogun or just (ö)midaidokoro and regent?
No this is not realistic.
Men should rule in samurai era and that's what happened in past Japan
You should educate yourself so you don't have to exhibit ignorance.
Ochiba is based on a real woman... Yodo-dono. So you really couldn't be more wrong
Ever heard about the Nun Shogun? :))))
that demonstrates your ignorance about japanese history ...
Did you like forget queens ruled in different parts of the world as well
01:42 - Me, when someone brings up politics during dinner with family.
Semen demon.
これを気に、元ネタの淀さまの女傑っぷりを世界に発信出来たらなーと
絶対好きになるはず