Failed Hexagon USB Socket Extension Lead
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- An extension lead with 4 outlets and 4 USB sockets. A total failure straight out of the box. Inside - more fail.
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Geez I'm sick of people being able to peddle this dangerous garbage without being charged as criminals.
No Earth and undersized Schuko pins. How the heck does this rubbish gets into the UK electric market. Amazon should be ashamed selling this device.
a good device to kill your wasps though :)
while also starting a wildfire in the process
amazon is not ashed at all to sell it, what makes you think they are?
If they were ashamed, they would check the products that they sell, but they never do and never will
It was bought in Germany (although, looking at the UK Amazon site, some chancer is selling these at £36.60). The retailer is called Radiancy Inc on the UK Amazon site, and it's a US, not American company. A job for trading standards I think, and Amazon need to be held accountable for gross violations of safety standards by the companies they provide services for. It's not sold with a UK plug, so I've no idea what the legal position is though. It's effectively an adapter for foreign electrical systems.
Amazon should be ashamed. When I buy from eBay I know it is just a market place and expect basically nothing but Amazon is a major store. Why do they ruin their brand by competing with eBay with the same brand and even web page.
Imagine a department store that allowed scam artists sell stuff inside their premises.
Amazon should be penalized for allowing such a horrendous safety abomination anywhere near the market.
yes this isnt a personal import from ebay, where you take your own chances, this is fulfilled by amazon warehouse, thus they are legally on the hook for selling no compliant goods, they should be siezed and fined
Agreed, the authorities need to start raiding Amazon every time something like this reaches *their* warehouses. Zero tolerance for huge American law-dodgers.
Amazon was recently fined 1.3million US (a mere drop in the bucket), for fulfilling banned pesticide orders. The Chinese pesticides hospitalized several children.
"American law dodgers ?" - This is probably illegal in any country that has strict electrical regulations... certainly will be in Germany, and certainly is here in the UK
They need to start to yes. I would say they should get fined at least 100,000 per device sold! It would also help if they still taught kids how to wire a plug and how it works so idiots don't buy them.
love you could actually see where it arced over near the led.
That seller also sent me one of these for review and I made them stop selling it in the italian Amazon
"Retardance Engineering" sums it up perfectly.
Going by the location of the spark which appears on each flash test, it looks like it flashed over between the LED and that 1.5 Ohm resistor. I wonder if an actual slot would have saved it.
Ironically, I think the breakdown voltage on those 'slots' may have actually been reduced by the removal of the soldermask there...
Why they even felt the need to design it like that I have no idea, with better component placement they could have avoided having those tracks so close together!
Love your dry witty sense of humour, great channel John, keep the videos coming 👍🏻
That is ridiculously illegal device. You can convert earthed socket to unearthed socket with that even if the earth was connected.
I can't wait for you put this under test outside. I love it when you crank up the Amps John.
Go to the boomboxdeluxe channel and look for the SAFETY ALERT video to see one of these being tested in multiple ways and even be plugged into mains power and have sparks inside. Be sure to choose the FULL VIDEO version, as there is a full vid and quickie-edit version.
-Wayne's Electrical.
_11th August 2018, 21.24_
surely Amazon has a responsibility here to not be selling non-compliant and dangerous consumer goods?
Dave Mitchell I bought an unfused laptop power supply from them before, the type with a realllllly small plug. That part went straight in the bin!
yep correct, its not like a personal import when you buy direct via ebay, we know there you take your chances, but amazon have a legal duty not to sell these non compliant, they need trading standards to fine them
Yes, correct. Amazon was recently fined 1.3 million, for fulfilling banned pesticide products within USA. Pesticides of course, came from China sellers.
Shocking product... Literally
That USB supply boggles the mind. They had adequate space on that board to have proper clearance between the line side and the low voltage side - but they just simply didnt bother. Disgusting. I agree, Amazon should be on the hook for this.
I will be looking forward to you testing this abomination. Good one John.
Go to the boomboxdeluxe channel and look for the SAFETY ALERT video to see one of these being tested in multiple ways and even be plugged into mains power and have sparks inside. Be sure to choose the FULL VIDEO version, as there is a full vid and quickie-edit version.
-Wayne's Electrical.
_11th August 2018, 21.23_
Polarisation does matter. The reason is that a lot of equipment has internal fuses, especially if they are low rated. If there's an internal fault, and that fuse blows, there's a 50:50 chance it will be on the neutral and the internal circuitry will remain live. Also, an internal fuse like that provides not protection for earth faults should the fuse be on the neutral sides.
In addition, any device connected with a single pole switch will remain live if that single pole switch happens to be on the neutral side.
Maybe in these days of residual current protection devices it's not as important, but polarisation is always a good idea in principle.
Polarization does not matter. We have survived 100 years without it.
Hi John I don’t know if you watched it but I done a video on this product also a few months ago. Exactly the same as the one I reviewed. I did contact trading standards and nothing came about that sadly.
Shame these are still being sold! Great video John. As always. :)
Link here: ua-cam.com/video/QZSAFKftsZM/v-deo.html and in the video description for anyone wanting to see that one.
Thanks John! :D
I reported a shower with a 3 pin plug to them, they replied that they are swamped with dangerous eBay electrical appliances and can only deal with some of them.
Thank you John for showing this
The Cross Head on those screws are likely to be JIS. (Japanese Industry Standard.) These are used extensively throughout Asia and possibly China.
What? That EU/Schuko plug is sized incorrectly (except the pin width)! It should be a tight fit in both of your (UK to) "European sockets"! There is clearly a few mm space in there! Unacceptable!
Chineasium crap! :-D
That schuko plug is a disaster, just like the rest of the product. There are supposed to be actual spring contacts in that earth connection hole in the plug, but I can't see them here.Looks just like a folded metal piece with a hole in it.
Had another look - it's just a hole in a very thin piece of sheet metal, nothing inside at all.
John Ward Hehe, thanks for checking, John! :)
It is also too small.
Also it looks to small. Those usually fit really tight in the sockets, often hard to pull out. This one doesn't.
Thought the same - that Schuko plug should not be that loose in the socket. But I guess that is the least of the problems with this product.
"Bugger All" LOL that comment made me chuckle because your so straight forward and when you say something a bit harsh it's so funny. I can't imagine you swear but I'm sure you do at times :)
I love the Chinglish on the back of the box.
Pins on the plug is not supposed to be sleaved on european plugs. The reses in the socket is there to prevent contact with the pins, before they make electric connection.
"european plugs"... That can be many different plugs. The bulky ones don't need to be sleeved, but europlugs do.
True, however, many old ungrounded sockets are not recessed. Grounded ones are by design, you cannot make a non-recesses schuko socket.
I seriously agree with you mate amazon should not be selling any faulty products which could cause damage or fire
This product was very common in Malaysia because they use the same UK sockets. There are no shutters. Most wiring that was made in some commercial lot that uses 3 phase was poorly wired and if one of the MCB tripped, they would unscrew the wire from the MCB, then move it to another MCB.
The Schuko-plug doesn't require a sleeving on the pins because the socket is recessed to prevent that someone come in contact with live parts, if the plug is only partially inserted. The plug itself is too small for a standard Schuko-plug. Even if the earth would be connected, you can't use it with these plugs. Actually the french plug is not polarized because there's no regulation demanding on which side L and N should be.
Being recessed is also why there is no universal fits everything adapter for it. There is no way to connect it with earth.
This isn't true. A four socket outlet with an extension lead without saved earth have only a 2-pin-design at *in* and *out*! It is not standard in Germany, Greece, or Thailand but allowed till 1200 Watt over all with 220/240V.
Polarized plugs and outlets do you found only in UK standards - no other country did it for extension things. Normally all outlets on walls in Germany, Greece and Thailand are polarized with (view from out side) left = N / right = L. But the standard in Germany till the sixties/seventies was opposite of this :-((
+OldLordSpeedy
There is no standard for the wiring here in Germany on which side you should install L and N on the outlet. There's only an unwritten rule if you replace or add a new outlet: Wire it the same way as the other outlets are, at least in that room. The thing with left, and in the 60s with right was Occams Razor. It's named L, so the L must be Left, most electricians think here in Germany today. In the 60s the three lines in a three-phase system were named R, S and T (today L1, L2 and L3), so they thought R must be installed on the Right side.
There's no regulation about this, because you can put a plug one way or the other into the outlet, so this system is NOT polarized. Polarized means there's only one possible way to put the plug into the outlet. CEE outlets (blue or red), Terko or Perilex are polarized in Germany, but not Schuko!
Extension leads without PE are banned here in Germany btw. And the small Europlugs, which you can find on several appliances like chargers for smartphones, tablets and so on are only rated for 2.5A. For appliances with more than 2.5A you must use a contour plug (contour of Schuko but without PE) which is rated for 16A. This is mostly found on class II appliances with a higher demand like vacuum cleaners, drilling machines, other power tools like angle grinders and so on.
@@OldLordSpeedy Australian and New Zealand plugs are polarised (and not based on a UK standard), the current US plugs are polarised (one wider pin), Indian plugs are polarised (admittedly based on an old UK standard). There are lots of countries in the world with polarise sockets.
@@gabest4 True, it is impossible to crate an outlet that accepts schuko and BS1363 and grounds them. Some travel adapters have solved this with a two piece design: first piece converts to schuko and second from schuko.
Since an average user has only devices of a single plug type he does not benefit from an adapter or extension cord that accepts many different types.
You would think this is why we have trading standards.
This is how it will go, FIRE, DEATH, FINE. life go's on for those company’s, not for the family’s effected. We should NOT let them get away with this crap anymore !! Great work JW!
that piece of loose solder on that earth jack is yet another dangerous thing. It might start roaming loosely through the whole device possibly shorting out things.
Missing sparks China fusing possibility ;-)
Shorted data puns tells the decice, "I am a dumb charger and cannot negotiate current with you."
Those "instructions" made me laugh. It talks of a "switch" but I didn't see a switch... did I miss some of the video?
There is no switch. Some other versions do have a switch where the USB sockets are, so they presumably use the same text for all of the products.
Has anyone reported this product to Amazon?
The circuit uses those extra thin transformers which I mark as a big "no no" in my dictionary. I would guess that the maximum current those USB outlets can provide is around 300mA to 500mA at best.
You had me at no Earth Continuity, then it just got more crazy! Looking forward to see how it 'performs' under a real world, JW test..
Go to the boomboxdeluxe channel and look for the SAFETY ALERT video to see one of these being tested in multiple ways and even be plugged into mains power and have sparks inside. Be sure to choose the FULL VIDEO version, as there is a full vid and quickie-edit version.
-Wayne's Electrical.
_12th August 2018, 01.55_
The end is comedy ....thanks for the laugh🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I do like the black MK plug. That MK style I have only ever seen in white, white and sometimes in white.
Product code 646CHA , still made and available to buy from most electrical suppliers.
The polarised socket at 5:40 is a French style socket. It is also used in countries like Belgium, Poland, Slovakia and the Czech Republic. The non polarised one is a German style, and it appears to be used throughout most of Europe. The French style socket might have live and neutral wires swapped, so live is on the left and neutral is on the right
This device is also very questionable. It has the connections to earth, but no continuty. There is nothing to stop you from plugging in earthed appliances
4:45 The socket on the left is polarized but it is polarized differently in different countries. In France the line is on the right while in Czechia it is on the left. There is funny thing in the continental Europe that of the eight countries that do not use the German Schuko six are neighbors of Germany. The two others are Italy and Slovakia which used to be part of Czechoslovakia (a neighbor of Germany).
12:56 Big zap in the neighborhood of R3 on the other side of the board. Has that killed the entire thing? Quite likely :)
Love the sardonic humour, thanks John! Hey, did anybody else see that although the capacitor at 22:13 is missing, there is solder at the back (22:15) where it should have been! Lol! What a piece of crap! Great video!
I would have liked to see the usb output voltage and current tested before adding the high voltage.
10A extensions with 1.0mm2 x3 are usually 2400 watts rated, take 2500w through it... it's gonna get rather warm!
gazyounglive prob aluminium copper coated cable too in that flex. Even lower CCC than pure copper. It's just crap.
Where do they get this wire. I want some of that shit.
Like the weird lose rubber aluminum jobies
Anything that breaks the ground is highly illegal in Finland. I think in extension cords and power strips one should stay in as basic design as possible. Anything that tries to separate itself is suspicious.
That’s scary, how many people have had their devices destroyed by this kind of shoddy crap.
So glad I did my research instead of buying this.
X2 I was about to convince my mom to buy one but before I did I had to do a thorough research on this product until I came across this video... Without a doubt, a very deep investigation that very few know including the comments, hurts me the people who start buying this without knowing the consequences that this can cause
I wonder about your high voltage test, you said 3000V.
If that is AC you will get problems due to the capacitor and that is not a product fail!
For DC you need 4242V (3000*sqrt(2)) and that is the correct way to test this type of power supply.
Anyway I would not rate this one badly in my USB power supply tests (Getting close to 200 tested supplies), safety is non-existent and I doubt it can deliver much power.
"Anyway I would not rate this one badly" Sorry, the "not" do not belong there
I have just purchased a multiplug - USB & 3 UK/EU/AU sockets that has the problem of dodgy shutters is there a UK BS regulation that should protect against such rubbish being sold especially from a major online retailer?
BS1363 is the standard for sockets and plugs, and the law which requires it is this: www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1994/1768/contents/made
Hi John . Why not go through "The Plugs and Sockets etc. (Safety) Regulations 1994". I have received goods from wholesalers that I have sent back due to the plugs being lethal.
I look forward to this blue hexagon being turned into a blackened lump.
Follow up 18/08/18, this item has been reported to Amazon via online chat, and they are reviewing it.
i've come across things that could be in a way far worse, usb charger plugs with no fuse or fusible resistors in the mains side at all, multivoltage 5v and 12v 'laptop' like power supplies, with switching mosfets that could fry eggs even with minimal load on their outputs all with definitely not class y or y2 capacitors between live rectified mains and their outputs, with those multivoltage things having iec chassis plugs having aluminium pins which snag/bind on the leads you insert, and of course being soft aluminium, loose connections to the pcb terminal internally 😱😱
SMPS has a filter cap between input and output so I wouldn't call that test valid. Every single wall plug for phones would fail that test :)
How do you feel about the visible sparks, unrelated to the cap?
What gets me is the Chinese approach to earthing, as is shown by every piece of dodgy Chinese kit you've ever examined. In this one there was no earth at all (was there even an earth wire in the flex?). In others the flex has an earth wire, but it's not connected in the plug - at best the wire has been stripped and the bare copper placed in proximity to the earth pin so that if you waggle the pin you might get a brief connection.
Do the Chinese not understand the concept of earthing? Do they think earthing is unnecessary and just include an earth wire in the flex so it passes cursory inspection? Do they think earthing is some strange delusional belief we hold and they make a vague attempt at keeping us happy? Do they think earthing is like a good luck charm and they just make a token attempt at it for good luck?
With all the Chinese stuff I've seen you an Big Clive do teardowns of, I get the impression some dodgy geezer in China decided to go into business and got some wet-behind-the-ears graduate to do the design. Somebody who has been taught how the components work, but hasn't yet been exposed in real life to the practical engineering side of tolerances, ratings and electrical clearances (pretty much how I was straight out of university many, many decades ago). Maybe not even a graduate but a hobbyist with some back-issues of the Chinese equivalent of _Practical Electronics_ or _Elektor._
Yeah, I wonder if that's why the flex seems unusually loose and crushable.
Some points:
- This SchuKo extension lead with four outlets are forbidden in this kind of form in Germany (and Greece, or Thailand). Do you need 3 lines (phase, neutral, saved earth) with 1.5 qmm copper cable as minimum.
- For the import into the EU do you need the (CE) sign. Normally the border custom police should it check.
- No check signs from TÜV or other electronic engineer test centers.
Do you earn what you buy ... don't buy shit from the People Republic of China - buy own products from your local reseller!
That looks safe
They should not be sleeved as the the fact that the socket is depressed is for the safety. If one uses them with old style ungrounded sockets there is a potential for a risk. This would be illegal here as it breaks the earth. On schuko that is by design. The Finnish system is based on idea that if it fits it is OK to use so it is illegal to remove the earth unless one allows only double insulated devices.
Legal way to break the earth:
www.stark-suomi.fi/kuvat/starkki/tuotekuvat/2/24/24AL/24AL_1.jpg/400_400
An illegal way to break the earth:
www.mattikaki.fi/sahkoturvallisuus/pistoke.jpg
An unearthed plug has been modified to fit into schuko. These were very common in the 70s either as modifications of the plug or as extension cords. We had one on out TV. There was a tile floor that was conductive so the socket has to be earthed. The extension cords were more dangerous as when people got new TVs with flat plugs they saw the extension cord was not needed so they put it in a closet. Later when they needed an extension cord they went to the closet and took it back into use not knowing that it was dangerous. There are plenty of such cords still in use. There has been several documented fatalities because of such cords. Before mid 80s it was here illegal for an end user to do any wiring. There has been 158 documented electricity related fatalities (excluding fires) since 1980. 34 of the reports mention extension cords.
is would be legal if it had an old round plug but then it would be useless on any new installation that has only earthed sockets. It should have one of these:
productimages.biltema.com/v1/Image/product/xlarge/2000018342/3
The old Finnish system was based on idea that on wet rooms everything was earthed and on dry rooms nothing was earthed.
Looking at the price...what do yiu expect to get.
Products should be safe, even if they are cheap.
Your statement lets these people/company's get away with. Would you buy one, and be happy to leave it on all night?
(10:42) - I think That little blue thing is a metal oxide varistor, not a capacitor.
The "little blue thing" is a class Y capacitor (or masquerades as class Y) and need to be there for interference suppression.. It would be non-compliant* without it. It is also why the high voltage test was completely meaningless -- any SMPS would fail that.
.Of course in all other ways the unit was perfectly compliant. :-O
Yup, a capacitor. But the high-voltage test caused *visible sparks*, unrelated to the capacitor.
Meaningless. 3000v in the low voltage side of a power supply is very liable to cause breakdowns. And it got there because of the required class Y capacitor. It is a totally invalid test.
The Y cap should go to the ground side of the 5V supply and hence the shell of the USB connector (i.e., the metal to which JW directly touched the probe).
So there's no sense in which 3kV was put into or across the 5V supply, except insofar as there's apparently a too-small gap between HV and LV components (LED and electrolytic?) which should be better separated.
The Y cap will leak a few milliamps at AC, but there definitely shouldn't be sparks between components; corona discharge, just possibly.
Happily, there's an easy way to be sure; we just ask JW to cut one of the leads on the blue cap, and then re-test. JW, are you up for that, please? :-)
It would still not be testing what you think it is. Remember he tested from the plug, and his test voltage would therefore have been routed by the rectifier (via the transformer primary and the class Y cap to his probe). This would have induced a large voltage in the low voltage side.
I don't want to be in the position of trying to defend this piece of junk but that test was completely invalid and produced meaningless results.
As an aside, the "visible sparks". Iḿ not at all sure that that is what they were. I think it may have been the LED briefly lighting. Don't quote me on that though ;-).
The most frightening thing about these crap electrical products are their good reviews. Good people, who don't know any better, buy them and everything seems okay to them at first. Then they leave the room or they go to sleep, unaware of the danger.
A substantial number of reviews are those that people have been paid to write. Entirely fake and useless, just like the products.
*Inserts the wrap:*
Love your work
What a wonderful death-trap , I think the solder joints would melt if you had enough connected items to it. and ppl that charge their phones by the usb ports and the phone has a metal casein is prob in for a shocking surprise of flying across the room.
Odd they fuss around with all that surface mount crap but can't throw an "earth" connection in there.
In these days, SMD is cheaper.
The assembly craftmanship is awful on that!
It is so funny to read the chinglish on the box of badly translated chinese stuff
4:34 Hey, at least it isn't one of those death adapters included with lots of stuff I end up receiving in China, well, besides the mini CDs that only seem to work in my tray load laptop CD drives, and makes a loud noise in some of my desktop drives, of which I have a video of, on my channel.
The sockets on the device are identical to the deathdaptor type things, so I imagine are every bit as dangerous!
Combined with a complete lack of earthing and a loose plug.
Just what would anyone expect for €7.
There are plenty of decent power strips for that price and even cheaper.
Nice colour.
JW, A short on the middle pins (D+ & D-) on a USB socket let devices know it is a very basic charger. More info available at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_(Physical)#PD
I used one of these.
Now I'm hexa gone
White residue on the board, could be flux or worse..
That thing was put together with love
Please test that from xiaomi please 🤔
Anywhere where this product goes on sale it needs to be referred to government safety departments toot sweet.
It should be the case that these products are check by the seller for basic electrical compliance at least.
Horrendous product.
Goody......next video has flames and smoke :D
Go to the boomboxdeluxe channel and look for the SAFETY ALERT video to see one of these being tested in multiple ways and even be plugged into mains power and have sparks inside. Be sure to choose the FULL VIDEO version, as there is a full vid and quickie-edit version.
-Wayne's Electrical.
_11th August 2018, 21.26_
Watched it - think I'd rather wait for Johns smoke and flames video.
Is it possible (or worth the effort) to complain to trading standards.??
Possible. Worth it - maybe not.
The last time I reported something like this it took weeks before they replied, sending them the video was useless as they couldn't view UA-cam items on their work computers, and even after they managed to view it the impression was that they had virtually no resources or time to really investigate such things.
what a nasty thing
Such garbage. It irks me when things are so poorly constructed that it is useless or dangerous, when it doesn't have to be.
What has Brexit got to do with this?
Nothing at all. However some people like to blame anything on irrelevant things. If it's not Brexit causing something, then it was the Internet's fault. Or television, game consoles, 1980s arcades, pop music and the rest.
To quote the 4 plug sockets in a fitting way, as bigclive.com would say "deathdapter" ...
Not the sort of product I'd buy... most multi socket leads I have are masterplug (british general), or duraplug...
That dangerous contraption... you could imaging having the tv, PS4 & sky Q plugged into that, along comes the 2 year old and in goes the pinky... zapp!
It's amazing the amount of cheap chinese crap that gets in, the EU are to blame mainly for letting it in, maybe this time next year CE won't be valid anymore ans everything will have to conform to British standards and bear a kite mark.
gazyounglive - do you really think that any U.K. government is actually going to spend large sums of money checking that rubbish like this is not being imported? I don't think leaving BREXIT will make any difference whatsoever.
Jack of all trades, master of none...
Disgusting! Reminds me of the time machine from napoleon dynamite 🤕😹
Do the Chinese not have operate company google translatebut have paying humans to have think the
translate the directives. for.product
I wrote my comment in typical broken English does anyone get it
Luckily while we're in the EU we are protected against this kind of sub standard product.
After Brexit how can we continue to protect ourselves from dodgy gear?
Twig
Please explain how being part of the EU offers any kind of protection against "Dodgy Gear"? I'm confused...
The point is this is being sold in the EU ( in this case Germany ) via Amazon. So much for border and customs checks already in place.
Because to import anything into the EU it needs to comply with EU standards, which is one of the main reasons Mrs May is trying to cancel Brexit.
Twig thanks, I just didn't get it but I do now!
Twig We use British Standards (BS). Eu stuff is generally shit anyway e.g. BS RCDs have a trip requirement of 1 * In at 200ms and BS (Euronorm) EN rcds require 300ms trip time.
#Epicfail
Arrrggg! Those cheap sellers make our Shucko plugs look embarrassing... disappointin' --- I aint avin' it! >:)
No seriously, what gives them the right to sell this shite' (pardon) for us here in the EU? This is an abomination! I'd rather pay a bit more and get a quality product and not something so horrid as them Chinese makes. Looking at this actually, makes me wonder how "ow they (Chinese and some other Asian countries) make this, they make that - ow the economy is blooming" - its all rubbish! Most things were INVENTED by us proper-white folk... Sure, they make the bulk - but they're just pure copycats. They never invented anything - except the crap we see (as in today's) video. ... Sorry for the woffle-woffle, but that quality needs to be banned, before some person zaps his own a$$. :D