Dangerous Unfused UK Plug and Undersized Flex

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  • A dangerous unfused plug intended for UK socket outlets.
    This is far too small, has no fuse of any kind, the pins are too short, the earth pin is sleeved and it has a pointless fake CE mark.
    The flex claims to be 0.5mm² which is far too small for a 10A rated item, and the flex resistance is well over 1 ohm for each conductor so is either smaller than 0.5mm², not made of copper, or both.
    Plugs like this are dangerous and if you have any like this they need to be destroyed.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 327

  • @brianclemensen3313
    @brianclemensen3313 5 років тому +41

    The small hole is probably for venting gasses when it begins to violently combust.

    • @DomWPC
      @DomWPC 5 років тому

      hahaahahahahha

    • @williamsquires3070
      @williamsquires3070 5 років тому +1

      Not if you ask BoomBoxDeluxe - he’d say it’s for adding the salt water! 😆 Sorry, couldn’t resist the plug.

    • @TCSC47
      @TCSC47 3 роки тому

      I wonder if you are closer to the truth than some may think here!

    • @grassytramtracks
      @grassytramtracks 2 роки тому

      Yep, to let all the smoke out

  • @Mark1024MAK
    @Mark1024MAK 5 років тому +37

    So, to sum up, the only thing that was correct was the L, N and E markings. *EVERYTHING ELSE* is wrong or substandard...

  • @RedBearAK
    @RedBearAK 5 років тому +20

    On the plus side, you have to admire the dedication and effort it takes to get literally every possible aspect wrong.

  • @Graham-ce2yk
    @Graham-ce2yk 5 років тому +7

    Someone on the EEV Blog forum caught an Amazon seller (Based in the UK.) offering these with the claim that they had a unreplaceable fuse inside the plug. They took screenshots and then bought one. When it arrived they tore down the plug and surprise, there was no fuse. Photographs of the tear down and the screenshots were sent to the right people and seller got in a lot of trouble. It's a real pity that Amazon does not take more care about what people sell.

    • @extrastuff9463
      @extrastuff9463 5 років тому +2

      Maybe the seller will claim that "the entire plug and insulation around the wires catching fire under gross overload and eventually failing" is the built in unreplaceable fuse.

  • @sarkybugger5009
    @sarkybugger5009 5 років тому +15

    Not so much a power lead, but more of a slow blow fuse / heating element / fire starter.

    • @WaynesElectrical
      @WaynesElectrical 5 років тому +1

      I would go
      with the latter
      of those things.
      I have tested similar and......
      ........It had trouble conducting the 10A going through it and the sockets on it let loose shortly after. UTTER TAT.
      Soon, that lead is off to Mr. Photon's and we're going to bust it in badly. :D
      -Wayne's Electrical.
      _19th March 2019, 16.30_

  • @simontay4851
    @simontay4851 5 років тому +39

    The flex will act as the fuse in this.

    • @jusb1066
      @jusb1066 5 років тому +3

      precisely what you dont want to happen, the flex will burn, and expose live wires and probably set fire to the house, is why we put fuses in the plugs to begin with

    • @wisteela
      @wisteela 5 років тому

      @@kowalski8 Apart from the cable is still sub standard

    • @nowafers
      @nowafers 5 років тому +2

      @Hawk Cuckoo It's because in the UK there is a ring circuit around to the sockets with a 32A breaker, the plug fuse is firstly to protect the appliance supply cable

    • @darrenjones3784
      @darrenjones3784 5 років тому +1

      @Hawk Cuckoo safety.

    • @BrianG61UK
      @BrianG61UK 5 років тому

      @@kowalski8 You don't wire multiple sockets back to a single 30A fuse though. Wastes a lot more wire running all the way back to the fuse box.

  • @bostedtap8399
    @bostedtap8399 5 років тому +8

    Had the same plug on a Nikon camera battery charger, other end was a figure of eight, cable felt okay weight wise, replaced with 3 amp fused jobber.
    Another Chinese incendiary device we deliberately bring in to our homes.
    Thanks for sharing JW.

  • @crimsonhalo13
    @crimsonhalo13 5 років тому +11

    No fuse = never use!
    Except as a campfire starter.
    They work great for that purpose.
    I also figured out the 'XD' mark ...
    Look at it sideways,
    it's a cringey-face.

    • @patrickwigmore3462
      @patrickwigmore3462 5 років тому

      The XD is the manufacturer laughing at us for buying their unsafe product.

    • @markwanklyn4195
      @markwanklyn4195 5 років тому

      XD = eXtra Dangerous

    • @WaynesElectrical
      @WaynesElectrical 5 років тому +1

      You're right in every
      way, including the XD
      marking. Did you mention
      FLAAAAAAMES? In that case then......
      .....Some time back, I tested something similar on my channel, and it had trouble carrying the 10A I was putting into it.
      That lead is to be tested at Mr. Photon's poppage facility and we're going to bust it in badly.
      EXPECT FLAAAAAMES. :D
      -Wayne's Electrical.
      _19th March 2019, 16.35_

    • @Gameboygenius
      @Gameboygenius 5 років тому +2

      I disagree. While they would certainly be able to start the fire, I don't want PVC fumes on my marshmallows.

    • @Xclub40X
      @Xclub40X 5 років тому

      Frowny face

  • @tonydarby9096
    @tonydarby9096 5 років тому +5

    We had some equipment supplied with these a few years ago. The wire inside the molding actually showed slightly at the edges so you could get a shock just by plugging in. We X-rayed the rest and all showed appallingly similar wire faults inside. Yet these items are still showing up.

  • @loucipher7782
    @loucipher7782 2 роки тому +2

    i just plug them into a surge protector or anything that had a fuse, seems fine for years now
    these are not meant to be plug directly into the wall with full power flowing in before any protection
    no need to throw away lol

  • @SnabbKassa
    @SnabbKassa 3 роки тому +2

    Big Clive has a vid about Chinese "firebomb breakers": Inside a fake un-trippable circuit breaker.

  • @stuartmcconnachie
    @stuartmcconnachie 5 років тому +5

    XD = eXtra Dangerous?
    Oh sorry, you say right at the end = eXtremely Dubious!

  • @spudhead169
    @spudhead169 3 роки тому +2

    These leads are great during the winter. Put them on everything and voila, no need for your central heating to be on anymore. They occasionally catch fire as well, so even more winter heat.

  • @SeanBZA
    @SeanBZA 5 років тому +5

    XD stands for eXtremely Dangerous. CE mark stands for Chuck Everything away. Looks like somebody decided to take the UK pin pattern mould and use it with the South Africa/India standard plug moulding instead. Bet the cable inside is that mystery metal 5 strand "copper colour" wire as well, and probably is not the correct colour scheme as well, though it will have very robust and thick recycled PVC insulation on it.

  •  5 років тому +6

    House fires on the rise, no wonder with cables such as this.

    • @jusb1066
      @jusb1066 5 років тому +2

      yep along with people wanting a second or so phone charger and too cheap to buy a decent one, but that £1 from a market stall is hard to pass up...

  • @steamhammer2k
    @steamhammer2k 5 років тому +9

    I had one of these leads with an external drive enclosure from a well known, highly respectable computer supplier (when they were trading) here in the UK.. you "simply" cannot trust anyone can you.

    • @uktoker71
      @uktoker71 5 років тому

      Maplin?

    • @benbaselet2026
      @benbaselet2026 5 років тому +2

      HP had to recall a bunch of cables for laptops etc. because the fake chinesium cables were this poor and a fire hazard. Even they get screwed occasionally by the manufacturers of this garbage.

    • @christastic100
      @christastic100 5 років тому

      I think the load of truth and the smoke of reality awaits this premium death lead. Socket to it John

    • @p166mx
      @p166mx 5 років тому

      A customer had one that actually started to melt. Luckily they noticed in time. The plug looked legal but the conductors in the cores were none existent. The current going through the cable must have been a lot less than 2 amps yet it still melted.
      My one big gripe about IT equipment is why do they often come with 13 amps fuses? I have seen this from major brands, 90w laptop chargers coming with 13 amp fuses in the plug, it is madness.

    • @steamhammer2k
      @steamhammer2k 5 років тому

      "Simply Computers". it looks like a number of main stream dealers sold these by the look of it.

  • @toysareforboys1
    @toysareforboys1 5 років тому +13

    7:15 "now as we've done in the past..." I was hoping you were going to say "we're going to run 10 amps through it and see how hot the wires get..." :)

    • @bdf2718
      @bdf2718 5 років тому +2

      Part 2. I hope.

    • @WaynesElectrical
      @WaynesElectrical 5 років тому +2

      You know.... I
      have a feeling
      that you want
      flaaaaames! Some time back.......
      ....... I bought a lead which had a similar plug on it, got it out in the back garden and not too long after getting it going..... it gave out and that was the end of it!
      VERY DISAPPOINTED. But that video proved a point though!
      So, given my disappointment (and the lack of flaaaaames) I am left with no other option other than to take it to Mr. Photon's poppage facility, and let's see what shenanigans we can get up to with it there! :D
      Let's see how hard it can REALLY be pushed and whether-or-not Mr. Photon can get it up in flames!
      I WANNA POP IT!!!!!!!
      -Wayne's Electrical.
      _19th March 2019, 16.53_

    • @bdf2718
      @bdf2718 5 років тому +1

      @@WaynesElectrical
      I bet Photonic Induction could have improved on Big Clive's latest video and passed a *lot* more than 15mA hand-to-hand. And in his dying gasp, he'd say of his heart "I popped it!"

    • @toysareforboys1
      @toysareforboys1 5 років тому

      I'm always down for flames. Always :)

    • @WaynesElectrical
      @WaynesElectrical 5 років тому

      Aaaaah, thanxx for
      letting me know on
      that. In that case
      then, feel free to.....
      (1) Come on over to Wayne's Electrical
      (2) BAAAANG that subscribe button
      And when there's going to be flaaaaames....
      (3) Slap that video on widescreen
      (4) Pull out your favourite snack
      (5) Sit back
      (6) Enjoy! :D
      All vids are in *_FULL HD 1920 x 1080p_* for the optimum Sssatisfaction of course. :D
      Not too long to go now until Mr. Photon is back in the playroom, cranking things up..... Uuuuntil they pop! :D
      -Wayne's Electrical.
      _20th March 2019, 00.48_

  • @petermichaelgreen
    @petermichaelgreen 5 років тому +4

    Note: even on legit cords the rating stamped on the connectors is only the rating of the connectors. Most IEC cords (at least the ones I have seen with UK plugs or schuko plugs) are built with 0.75mm flex which is conventionally rated for 6A though this can be increased to 10A under some circumstances. IEC cords built with 1.0mm cable (rated at 10A) are available but you have to explicitly search for them.

    • @taunteratwill1787
      @taunteratwill1787 5 років тому

      I've been professionally 'explicitly' searching all my life.

  • @grantrennie
    @grantrennie 5 років тому +4

    I have seen these leads before, chopped them up and put them in the recycling.
    They seem to come with ebay items at times

  • @tommuller817
    @tommuller817 5 років тому +4

    This plug is for sure unsave, but we here in Germany also use 230 Volts AC with up to 16 A at one plug and none of gernan plugs have any fuse.

    • @simontay4851
      @simontay4851 5 років тому +2

      But your socket circuits are not on a 32A breaker. Usually 20A radial circuits, aren't they?

    • @gammaleader96
      @gammaleader96 5 років тому +2

      More like 16A for a modern circuit. Old houses often still use 10A breakers.
      Greetings from Germany

  • @soupalex
    @soupalex 3 роки тому +1

    in this case, "ce" stands for "causes explosions".
    really wish customs would pull their fingers out of their arses and drop the hammer on companies that continue to import dangerous kit like this... likewise online retailers who provide vendors with a platform (i would reserve the better part of my irritation for the people who manufacture and sell this garbage, but they're beyond the immediate reach of uk law)

  • @paullee5573
    @paullee5573 3 роки тому +1

    Was that lead bought from Poundland? I purchase a 4 gang extension lead from them about ten years ago. The first and only time I used it was to power a perfectly good table lamp with a 40 watt bulb fitted. It overheated within a couple of minutes of plugging in and set fire to the room.
    The fire brigade too the remains away, together with the receipt for the lead. Poundland were subsequently prosecuted by Trading standards. But I see that they are back on sale again in Poundland.
    So unless you are an arsonist do not buy one if these.

  • @cujbaion1
    @cujbaion1 2 роки тому +1

    that's the China Export symbol, European one it's having the letters further apart.

  • @factsdontcareaboutyourfeel7568
    @factsdontcareaboutyourfeel7568 5 років тому +3

    Markings on the cable:
    XD
    ... that just about says it all really.

  • @siegeism
    @siegeism 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent thanks. Just came here after seeing the BBC report about these plugs appearing on the Wish online site.

  • @max79444
    @max79444 5 років тому +2

    I cut up one of these and the conductors appeared to be copper plated steel.......

    • @benbaselet2026
      @benbaselet2026 5 років тому

      Aluminimum is the typical stuff they are made from.

  • @hoggif
    @hoggif 5 років тому +1

    I have couple pretty similar eu cords. Marked 0.5mm^2, measured about 2ohm resistance on both L lead and N lead. At 4 ohms total resistance it would make a nice heater even with relatively low load. (and about 400W of heat on short cable with marked 10A )
    Mine has no continuity on earth, even though cutting in half revealed three wires in it. There was a reason to cut those cords before they get mixed with good cords.
    Always check power cords that come with cheap chinese products.

  • @horatiopugwash9183
    @horatiopugwash9183 5 років тому +2

    If anything needs testing to destruction, that cable ticks all the boxes. Get 10 amps shoved through it. ⚡🔥

  • @dimitriderop8822
    @dimitriderop8822 5 років тому +1

    I believe the manufacturer used the housing intended for the BS 546 plugs (with round pins; the old standard for UK plugs and nowadays used in India) now for BS 1363 plugs. They just replaced round prongs by rectangular prongs. And 3 x 0.5 mm² is even not allowed even if a C7 IEC (appliance couplers) connector is used (max. 2.5 A). The min. cross section is 0.75 mm² (for mechanical strength).

    • @dimitriderop8822
      @dimitriderop8822 5 років тому

      As example; look to PE-364 on w3.linetek.com.tw/html/ac_product.aspx?t_fid=f0012

  • @Flat-White
    @Flat-White 5 років тому +1

    I knew someone who had this cable connected to a kettle. The kettle boiled over and took off like a rocket hitting the ceiling.

  • @hamjazz
    @hamjazz 5 років тому +1

    I find that if you run a 13amp plug/socket of any make (cheap or not) at the limit of 13 amps or even less they get warm regardless. Try running a 3kw immersion heater through one and you will see what I mean. I think they should be rated at 10 amps. A lot of the trouble is caused by the small weak contact of the fuse with it's holder.

  • @twocvbloke
    @twocvbloke 5 років тому +6

    I remember 12 or so years back working at the computer shop, we received a shipment of ATX power supplies with a bagful of these cables, I pointed out they were dangerous & offered to rewire them with new UK plugs, so I took one & lopped off the dodgy plug, found the wire colours were all brown, yeah, they all went into the bin after that... :P

    • @WaynesElectrical
      @WaynesElectrical 5 років тому +2

      These aren't
      even worth
      the time to fit
      a new plug. You see......
      ......things like this most likely have ALUMINIUM conductors in them, so even if you did fit a new plug, they would still be dangerous!
      I have tested something similar on my channel and that had trouble conducting 10A before the sockets on it sparked and lost contact!
      Soon, that lead is off to Mr. Photon's poppage facility and let's see how hard we can push it until there's flaaaaames. :D
      -Wayne's Electrical.
      _19th March 2019, 16.22_

    • @twocvbloke
      @twocvbloke 5 років тому

      I've had my (un)fair share of CCA conductor cables in recent years, it is indeed terrible stuff, but back when I was at the computer shop I didn't know about CCA wire anyway, it was the conductor colours that rang alarm bells to show that it was bad stuff... :)
      I generally throw away china-sourced mains cables in favour of something designed for use on rest-of-the-world electricity... :)

    • @lztx
      @lztx 5 років тому

      @@WaynesElectrical I'm sure JW has passed about 6A through one of these before and got it to catch fire

  • @cypher686
    @cypher686 3 роки тому +1

    You should have opened the plug

  • @christopherhulse8385
    @christopherhulse8385 5 років тому +1

    I hate moulded plugs full stop. Always cut them off and fit a normal rewireable type, this after I saw a house burn down after a moulded plug failed, and after I had one melt on a washing machine.

  • @muzikman2008
    @muzikman2008 5 років тому +1

    I bought some Chinese LED disco lights, these are the cables that came with them, chop them up and bin them. No fuse, undersized copper coated aluminium 0.5mm cable, and just crap! The lights themselves are actually well made, apart from zero earth bonding to the metal case hmmm..which I corrected, and replaced the cables with UK made IEC cables and 3A fused moulded 1mm2 cables. Like someone else said, Ebay imported crap usually has these supplied as standard. BIN THEM.Great video JW

  • @bobbymcjunior
    @bobbymcjunior 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you very much for this video, I'm glad I stumbled across it as I received an LED strip kit as a Christmas gift and was very wary of these IEC leads to begin with, as I too noticed there wasn't a fuse and as you said the dimensions are all wrong. Very shocking and scary to realise such a thing as my sister has the exact same kit with the exact same lead and she complains that the LEDs themselves aren't bright nor do they work properly. Thank you for helping me understand the problems behind these leads, I shall be buying two correct IEC leads to the UK standard soon!

  • @SimonJobson
    @SimonJobson 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this. just bought a light off eBay with this exact plug end on it. Never seen one like it before but instantly knew it looked so dangerous! Thanks for clarifying.

  • @markyd2633
    @markyd2633 5 років тому +1

    Thanks.....another great vid showing some of the crap people are buying without a clue of how dangerous they are.....appreciated

  • @alankingvideo
    @alankingvideo 5 років тому +1

    I make it approx. 200W dissipated by a 2 ohm cable at 10A 250V That’s a bit scary!

  • @Petertronic
    @Petertronic 5 років тому +1

    The manufacturing tolerances of the cable must be terrible for the conductors to differ like that over such a short length. I'd be interested to see the thickness of them and whether or not it is copper!

    • @simontay4851
      @simontay4851 5 років тому +2

      Probably 0.1mm copper coated aluminium.

    • @WaynesElectrical
      @WaynesElectrical 5 років тому

      Very possibly,
      the conductors
      in this are ALUMINIUM.
      What I done some time back........
      ........was to buy a similar multi-socket lead, solely for the purposes of making a video on it and putting it on my channel.
      I gave the thing a nicely measured TEN AMPS.
      Not long after that..... the sockets let loose! Couldn't handle it!
      BUT I WANT SOME PROPER POPPAGE!!!!!!!!!
      So, there is only one thing I can do.....
      It has to go to Mr. Photon's poppage facility, and we're going to give it a total and ABSOLUTE CANING and we're going to BUST IT RIGHT IN!!!!!
      I am expecting flaaaaaaames!!!
      -Wayne's Electrical.
      _19th March 2019, 17.00_

  • @rogerbeck3018
    @rogerbeck3018 5 років тому +1

    A very big issue [that JW has begun addressing] is the widespread (worldwide) use of copper clad aluminium [CCA] conductors and the uninformed expectation that they work equivalently to copper conductors - talking amps not milliamps.

    • @98dizzard
      @98dizzard 5 років тому

      Aluminium is a great conductor, when used correctly. CCA is never a good idea for flex cables or even house wiring. About the only thing it should be used for in a home is speaker cable, but even then it won’t last if the cable is regularly moved.

  • @qviewq2071
    @qviewq2071 5 років тому +1

    I have seen these plugs on site with PAT testing stickers on them. You would think part of PAT testing would be to route these out?

  • @puckcat22679
    @puckcat22679 5 років тому +1

    Interesting point, by the way, about the CE mark. I've seen that on electrical devices here in the US- ones that are not dual voltage, so are only able to be sold in countries that use 120V/ 60Hz power. But it has the CE mark! Even though, by definition, it doesn't meet European standards since it can't be used on European mains power.

    • @johncoops6897
      @johncoops6897 5 років тому

      You are confusing the CE compliance marking with the CE mark that means "Chinese Export". i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/051/769/e25.jpg

  • @Dog-whisperer7494
    @Dog-whisperer7494 2 роки тому

    That thing is made for the Middle East , places like Iraq Afghanistan India were the use UK BS1363 socket outlets. Not really dangerous for them but in the Uk the are highly dangerous. As are the sealed Moulded plugs the manufacturers put on most if not all domestic appliances in the UK .
    Just cut them off and fit a standard rewireble BS1363 plug .

  • @YeahNoTellTheTruth
    @YeahNoTellTheTruth Рік тому

    Arrogance of Chinese manufacturers... sellers should take the responsibility.

  • @forevercomputing
    @forevercomputing 5 років тому +2

    Can I remind you that it is not just the UK that uses Type G plugs. Singapore, is one of them.

    • @StrathpefferJunction
      @StrathpefferJunction 5 років тому

      And Ireland.

    • @forevercomputing
      @forevercomputing 5 років тому

      @@StrathpefferJunction Northern Ireland (part of the UK) or Republic of Ireland? I band them with having much of the same.

    • @StrathpefferJunction
      @StrathpefferJunction 5 років тому

      @@forevercomputing Ireland. Which is why I said Ireland. Northern Ireland is part of the UK.

    • @lztx
      @lztx 5 років тому

      Do they all have the same requirements around fusing, etc? Or are they just using the pin spacing part of the standard?

    • @BrianG61UK
      @BrianG61UK 5 років тому

      And Poland if I remember correctly.

  • @jonathanb6647
    @jonathanb6647 2 роки тому

    Hi I bought a new microscope from a week known company in the uk it is branded with their logo.
    It has the same type of plug but attached to a transformer the microscope has a metal body with no sticker or safety label not even the class 2 markings (square in a square)
    Would you consider this to be safe if I change the power adapter?
    Thanks.

  • @TCSC47
    @TCSC47 3 роки тому

    The strange thing about this plug is that somebody took time and effort to design and put the thing into production. What on Earth were they trying to do? For the effort involved, surely they could have produced something that was much closer to the spec for UK plugs? If they wanted to cheat on costs, whilst of course I'm not recommending it (!), they could have just put it on the market without going through the proper acceptance tests. I would have suggested that somewhere in the world there is a nation that uses plugs like this, but the CE marking gives away the game that they are trying to fob this off as some sort of UK plug.

  • @tuffty203
    @tuffty203 2 роки тому

    Amazon are still selling electric goods with these sort of plugs. When you report it they don't care. Had 5 items in the last 2 years with these plugs. I refuse to use them.

  • @kingsman428
    @kingsman428 5 років тому +1

    CE=Chinese Export. Very sneaky.

  • @danisaac
    @danisaac 5 років тому +1

    Can’t wait to see the 10amps go though it

  • @garyslatter9854
    @garyslatter9854 5 років тому +2

    Love the #sleeved #earth #pin

    • @BrianG61UK
      @BrianG61UK 5 років тому

      Plastic is cheaper than any kind of metal :)

  • @chriswhitehead6095
    @chriswhitehead6095 5 років тому

    Found one in my toolbox, fake 0.75MM2 flex also, bastards.

  • @alunroberts1439
    @alunroberts1439 Рік тому

    Toys from eBay have came with them even from the UK I chop them to bits an drop in bin

  • @ursodermatt8809
    @ursodermatt8809 5 років тому +1

    UK must be the only country that has fuses in the plug

    • @cjmillsnun
      @cjmillsnun 5 років тому +1

      That is because we use ring circuits. Eire also uses the same plugs and sockets, also uses ring circuits and also uses fuses in the plug.

    • @ursodermatt8809
      @ursodermatt8809 5 років тому

      @@cjmillsnun there you go! you are not on your own. two countries.

    • @puckcat22679
      @puckcat22679 5 років тому +1

      The US requires fuses in the plugs of certain devices. Christmas tree lights (fairy lights) have to have 2 amp fuses in them, one on each pin, because they only have 2-prong unpolarized plugs that can be inserted either way. I've started seeing fused plugs on electric fans and space heaters as well- not sure if it's a requirement, but they're there. As has been said, the reason UK plugs are fused is because of the 32 amp ring circuits that are common there. Here in the US, most outlets are on 15 amp circuit breakers, with the exception of outlets in kitchens, garages, workshops, and (sometimes) bathrooms, which have 20 amp circuits (and SHOULD have 20 amp outlets, which can be identified by the T-shaped neutral hole, but standard 15 amp outlets are all too often fitted.) In addition, cords aren't allowed to have conductors any smaller than 18 awg, which is roughly .8 mm^2. And usually, they'll be at least 16 awg. And as far as I know, cords have to be copper or plated copper (which I assume is the same in the UK) So in the event of a short circuit, the circuit breaker will trip well before the cord will catch fire. Incidentally, Christmas lights are the only exception that I know of to the minimum of 18 awg- which is why they have fused plugs.

  • @darrylbarry1
    @darrylbarry1 5 років тому +1

    bring on the overload video :-)

  • @officer_baitlyn
    @officer_baitlyn 5 років тому +2

    *_XD_*

  • @md.muradhussainkhan592
    @md.muradhussainkhan592 2 роки тому

    Should i not use this for computer too? Then which one to use!?

  • @fijielectrical8323
    @fijielectrical8323 4 роки тому

    This looks like Chinese people have made it like Indian plug

  • @tedex8100
    @tedex8100 5 років тому +1

    I liked and subbed this channel ages ago.
    Not because it interested me professionally,but because one instinctively knows that JW knows what he's on about.
    I find that I feel much safer,knowing that trades people like him are doing their thing.

    • @taunteratwill1787
      @taunteratwill1787 5 років тому

      All trades people doing 'their thing' and sometimes they do other things.

    • @tedex8100
      @tedex8100 5 років тому

      The emphasis being on " knowing that trades people like him " @@taunteratwill1787

  • @katana1460
    @katana1460 2 роки тому

    Mine is same but has a 13 amp not 10 is it still unsafe?

  • @bobgrainger9080
    @bobgrainger9080 5 років тому

    What is you opinion about twin core cables (for Class II appliances such as portable hi-fi systems) fitted with three-pin plugs that have the earth pin PART-sleeved (half covered) (and a figure of eight on the other end of the cable) ? I've just seen a few of these on Ebay. Obviously, the earth pin is simply performing the job of opening the socket's shutters, and won't be in contact with earth. But my suspicion is that, because the earth pin has a PART-sleeve, it's an indication that there are probably other issues with the plug/cable.

    • @jwflame
      @jwflame  5 років тому +1

      Anything with a part sleeved earth pin does not comply with the standard - the only options are solid metal or solid plastic depending on whether an earth connection is required. Class II can either have a metal pin not connected to anything, or a solid plastic pin.
      Any plug with a part sleeved earth pin should be cut off and destroyed.

  • @LAnonHubbard
    @LAnonHubbard 5 років тому

    Probably a silly question but I'm going to risk looking stoopid and ask it anyway... Why is there two leads attached to each "probe" of your resistance tester?

    • @jwflame
      @jwflame  5 років тому

      One is for current, the other voltage. That way, the resistance of the leads is not measured. Explained in detail here: www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/direct-current/chpt-8/kelvin-resistance-measurement/

  • @davidcoghill8612
    @davidcoghill8612 3 роки тому

    XD is shorthand for ROFL

  • @JimGriffOne
    @JimGriffOne 5 років тому +1

    I'm glad to see the Earth pin has plastic insulation to prevent accidental Earth shocks.

    • @taunteratwill1787
      @taunteratwill1787 5 років тому +1

      So you call them 'earth' shocks? :-)

    • @JimGriffOne
      @JimGriffOne 5 років тому

      @@taunteratwill1787
      Well, I've had many shocks from Earth, usually while holding a Live wire.

    • @Dog-whisperer7494
      @Dog-whisperer7494 2 роки тому

      @@JimGriffOne if you had a shock from the earth conductor wile holding the line conductor you would be dead and not posting stupid comments on social media.

    • @JimGriffOne
      @JimGriffOne 2 роки тому

      @@Dog-whisperer7494 Indeed.

  • @ABESuperKiteDay
    @ABESuperKiteDay 3 роки тому

    Brilliant channel. Learning so much. Just came from your armoured cable and glad fitting tutorial.

  • @cryo_life
    @cryo_life 5 років тому

    UK has poor wiring... it shouldn't depend on the fuse to blow because when it blows, most people don't have extra fuses to replace. It's the breakers job to blow if it shorts or overloads!! WHY are UK houses designed that way? Why fuse and not breakers?

    • @jwflame
      @jwflame  5 років тому

      Fuse in plugs are left over from the 1940s when a particular system of wiring was designed.
      Modern homes have consumer units with circuit breakers, but all plugs still have fuses as changing that design would be excessively expensive for no real benefit.
      Fuses for plugs can be obtained in any UK supermarket, hardware stores and many other places.

    • @cryo_life
      @cryo_life 5 років тому

      @@jwflame Ok, thanks for replying

  • @Ed-fp9rx
    @Ed-fp9rx 3 роки тому

    What a great video, thanks

  • @LittleRichard1988
    @LittleRichard1988 Рік тому

    Unfortunately not only did I once nearly get into an argument with a charity shop that was selling a hair dryer with one of those unfused plugs that had
    "passed a test" but I have seen a couple of them in use in commercial buildings. If somebody sent me one from EBay ( and occasionally I have had
    instances of items differ from the photo ) I would cut it up into pieces and throw it in the bin. When I bought a replacement power pack for my old
    laptop it came with a lead that had a shrouded Earth pin so I just used the original mains lead and the plug with a shrouded Earth pin was disposed of.
    The only reason I let it slip in the charity shop is because I would have really lost my temper in disbelief that anyone can be stupid enough to pass
    something like this as "safe" when it's obvious it's downright dangerous although I did think of buying the hair dryer and destroying it but it wasn't worth
    wasting money on nor did I want to be seen buying something that is lethal. Everyone should know a legit UK moulded plug has a fuse compartment
    and you would think people who do pat tests would know better.

  • @kkpdk
    @kkpdk 5 років тому

    0,5 mm^2, 1-2 meter length, should be 0.032-0.064 ohm. My guess is 0.1 mm^2 iron wire, atrocious termination, or probably both. In which case it won't even trip the 32A breaker.

  • @gasgiant7122
    @gasgiant7122 5 років тому

    Great video, crap I’ve got one of those! ----“had” one of those, it’s getting weighed in with the rest of my scrap wire, you should’ve taken it apart to show just how bad it’s made. Ha ha I’ve just thought of a tv show for the Chinese market, it’s called how BAD it’s made. Thanks.

  • @MalagasOnFire
    @MalagasOnFire 5 років тому

    another fusible extension . it should be 0.75mm2 . Funny thing i have a similar cable with that marking in the socket F version and section is inferior to another cable that is highly marked on the plugs. Also the F plug looks more ovalized than the normal. Thanks for the video .

  • @footloose6382
    @footloose6382 5 років тому

    This plug is in common use in parts of world that have UK style sockets but not UK style plug and socket regulations. It is dangerous and it doesn’t comply at all with the British standard. If you come across one of these, bend the pins so that it can’t be plugged in and cut the cable up in short lengths or better still burn it.

  • @TheEulerID
    @TheEulerID 5 років тому

    10A through that cable means it will dissipate 240 watts. So we have a test to look forwards too? I just love the smell of burning rubber in the morning...

  • @ehsnils
    @ehsnils 5 років тому

    The only safe way is to ensure that the outlets are having a max fuse rating with a ground fault protector and not depend on the plugs being fused. This because the average person won't know anything at all about that the plug isn't OK.

  • @vibingwithvinyl
    @vibingwithvinyl 5 років тому

    The plug looks like the one on that Astra piece of garbage you destroyed years ago.

  • @grassytramtracks
    @grassytramtracks 2 роки тому

    XD is for Xtra Deadly

  • @DGphotography123
    @DGphotography123 4 роки тому

    John. Does a PSU for a device like a phone charger have a fuse?

    • @jwflame
      @jwflame  4 роки тому

      Some do, either an actual fuse or the cheapo method of a resistor which is designed to fail if excess current flows. Others do not.

  • @tonymartin9516
    @tonymartin9516 4 роки тому

    Just found some on some chargers purchased from amazon, hadn't noticed till I saw your video. Thank you.

  • @MandoMan1999
    @MandoMan1999 5 років тому

    Actually Apple USB plugs have ce markings on them

    • @jwflame
      @jwflame  5 років тому

      They would, because they are USB chargers, and covered by several EU directives.

  • @jazbell7
    @jazbell7 5 років тому

    In the US we have people that run thin extension cords across the room underneath a carpet and plug in a window air conditioner. Why did my house burn down???

  • @bjornroesbeke
    @bjornroesbeke 5 років тому

    No need for varistors, just use this cabel for inrush current limiting... Or just current limiting.

  • @clivekennedy6616
    @clivekennedy6616 5 років тому

    These plugs are on everything I buy from china which is sold as having a "uk plug lead", the metal cap on the earth pin stayed in my socket when I pulled one out the other day. I usually change the plug for a real one and hadn't given too much thought to the quality of the lead wire itself so thanks for the heads up.

  • @nicholaswolstenholme4739
    @nicholaswolstenholme4739 5 років тому

    I had a similar one of these with a figure 8 cable. The cable inside was not copper but aluminium and was much smaller than the stated 0.75mm^2. Also the plug contacts break of the plastic pieces very easily and are not brass and are only connected to the plug through a thin piece of powdered metal (including the earth prong).

  • @paul756uk2
    @paul756uk2 4 роки тому

    I understand what you're saying about the cable being too small for a 10 amp item but surely the biggest issue is that the cable can potentially have up to 32 amps before it takes out the cu breaker.

  • @Capt.Marco-Hawk-L.L.A.P
    @Capt.Marco-Hawk-L.L.A.P 5 років тому

    the wire also tends to be aluminum with a thin layer of copper, and the plastic coating of the wire tends to be low grade to

  • @kayleighbradley8708
    @kayleighbradley8708 4 роки тому

    I got some wall lights today, stepdad put them up luckily he done a pac test thing, I don’t know what I would do without him haha

  • @EpicWinz
    @EpicWinz 3 роки тому

    Had one of these leads delivered with a Chinese charger. Lol'd when I saw it. To the bin it goes!!!

  • @ArcanePath360
    @ArcanePath360 5 років тому

    Wow. Never thought of half of those things being a problem before. I'll be looking out for each of these things now. Thanks for potentially life saving or house burning down advice!
    I just now checked some twin and earth wire that I'm adding to a ring main that has been sat in my shed for a number of years and decided to check the ohms on the cores before installing in the wall. Each check showed zero ohms on my auto ranger so that's good, since I want to run a high current AC unit off it.

  • @Gameboygenius
    @Gameboygenius 5 років тому

    They were probably asked to make a lead-free product and responded "We can't do that. But at least we'll make sure there are barely any leads in the cable."

  • @mzimasprings3217
    @mzimasprings3217 4 роки тому

    3:31 hole is to put a pin in to test if power is coming through!! 😁 Or maybe to pour cold water if plug gets too hot 😁

  • @docbrown.
    @docbrown. 4 роки тому

    Thanks for this video i would have never known I just took a plug apart and couldn’t find a fuse.

  • @snurhewa7524
    @snurhewa7524 3 роки тому

    I think the PLUG will BE on for MORE THEN 1 hour 🤔 fire

  • @ProckerDark
    @ProckerDark 5 років тому

    why the N symbol is on the right and the L on the left? the L should always be on the right... or is the video is opposite because of the camera?

    • @jwflame
      @jwflame  5 років тому +1

      Depends which side of the plug or socket you are looking at.
      The socket has N on the left, so the plug pins will have N on the right when viewed from the pin side.

    • @ProckerDark
      @ProckerDark 5 років тому

      @@jwflame oh ok, thanks

  • @mauriceupton1474
    @mauriceupton1474 3 роки тому

    Made in China!

  • @helltanner3722
    @helltanner3722 5 років тому

    i think they moulded a hidden fuse and stuck it in the neutral ..not really..lol

  • @Jamal_Tyrone
    @Jamal_Tyrone 5 років тому

    i have one that came with an ata hdd to usb item on fleabay, always seems to werk ok.

  • @davidpar2
    @davidpar2 5 років тому

    Looks like the plug was designed to be South African but they put British prongs on it instead

  • @peterw4910
    @peterw4910 5 років тому

    Alwahs amazes me how these manage to get past any kind of regulations or customs checks.

    • @underwaterdick
      @underwaterdick 4 роки тому

      They don't get past regulations, they completely ignore them.
      Regarding customs, if items fitted with these plugs are inspected by customs, they will be rejected. The issue is that when the label on the box states it is a certain piece of electrical equipment, and an x-ray shows as much, they have little reason to open the consignment and look at them.
      With container after container load of legitimate goods entering the country, certain fakes or sub standard products will enter in many of the other containers.
      Customs actually do whatever they can to intercept dangerous, fake or sub standard goods in general.
      But seeing as we are an island that imports everything, it's practically impossible to check most of it thoroughly.

  • @DjResR
    @DjResR 5 років тому

    Strange that all the UK stuff I have seen in Estonia has proper fused plug, even the extension cables from Aliexpress were good.