Transition: Heated debate breaks out about Bears' lack of bold decisions

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  • @mikeDw7
    @mikeDw7 9 місяців тому +71

    Dan is 100% right that Matt Eberflus is responsible for hiring and coaching his set of coordinators and coaches. That is his number one job if he cannot do that and Ryan Poles has to do it for him then why is Eberflus there

    • @jeffreystebel
      @jeffreystebel 9 місяців тому +1

      He should be given credit for making changes immediately that didn’t work too. That’s good leadership and management.

    • @marioguti9887
      @marioguti9887 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@Michael-CharlesAust-ee5oo Tyson Bagent? 😂 He has a weak arm, that's why when Fields was out, all the Bears did was dink and dunk, you can't be a starting NFL QB with his arm, ain't no teams trying to snatch him away from us lol

    • @captain1jones354
      @captain1jones354 9 місяців тому

      Eberflus is responsible for the coaches but he isn’t responsible for what they do at home or during their free time or how they interact with other people. These are grown men not children.

  • @JackHawk78
    @JackHawk78 9 місяців тому +89

    Absolutely agree with Dan. Im not exactly sure what Bears team the rest of the goons are watching for the last 15 years.

  • @dietcokepapi
    @dietcokepapi 9 місяців тому +96

    When you’ve been accustomed to mediocrity for so long that you’re justifying mediocrity without knowing it.

    • @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd
      @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd 9 місяців тому +2

      My thoughts exactly.

    • @midwestkrazy83turner50
      @midwestkrazy83turner50 9 місяців тому +2

      Thought I was the only one that caught that

    • @FormedVoid
      @FormedVoid 9 місяців тому +4

      It’s horrendous, the sad part is the GM and president are doing the same thing so we will probably yet again pass on a QB while they ball out elsewhere and we have a lame duck coach waiting to be fired.

    • @KevoUptownChicago
      @KevoUptownChicago 9 місяців тому +4

      Its exactly how these 3 dudes sound

    • @NPC8474
      @NPC8474 9 місяців тому +2

      Kind of applies to Chicago in general. A once great city now just accustomed to mediocrity.

  • @mikchayyisrael6015
    @mikchayyisrael6015 9 місяців тому +68

    Now, that was a conversation. 4 points of view, voiced intelligently and with confidence. 670 the score!!

  • @luisklein2006
    @luisklein2006 9 місяців тому +173

    Two of Eberflus’s assistants (one being the DC) were fired midseason for misconduct in the office. His OC was fired for being terrible at play calling. Why should we be ok with him being given an opportunity to hire a new staff? Why should we be ok with this? I’m with Bernstein on this one.

    • @gilbertlloyd8691
      @gilbertlloyd8691 9 місяців тому +11

      Because he being defense focused ran a defense that was top 5 by the end of the season. Guess that counts for nothing.

    • @luisklein2006
      @luisklein2006 9 місяців тому +21

      @@gilbertlloyd8691 that would be a great argument if he were the defensive coordinator. Sadly, he’s the head coach and his responsibilities extend beyond just “how good was the defense?”

    • @elvangulley3210
      @elvangulley3210 9 місяців тому

      they played bad team with terrible qbs or back up qbs got blasted by any team with a pulse@@gilbertlloyd8691

    • @ofthemetro79
      @ofthemetro79 9 місяців тому +25

      @@gilbertlloyd8691the packers still destroyed them at the end. Defense looked like garbage

    • @gilbertlloyd8691
      @gilbertlloyd8691 9 місяців тому +1

      @ofthemetro79 that's 1 game. We don't deny Peyton manning greatness for never taking down Brady in the playoffs do we?

  • @UseThatGreyMatter
    @UseThatGreyMatter 9 місяців тому +58

    One guy in pain, 3 guys defending an inept franchise. Ive been a Bears fan for 58 years. I feel the pain...

    • @salaparo2975
      @salaparo2975 9 місяців тому +4

      I was on the field at Wrigley in 1965 at the age of twelve, my father was a fireman across the street at engine 78. I was on the field when the Bears lost the last game, had they won they would have been in the championship game. I have seen one world championship since, Thank you 85 bears

    • @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd
      @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd 9 місяців тому +1

      @@salaparo2975 Dude, how are you still a fan after that many decades of relentless failure??
      If I grew up during your time and witnessed countless decades of ineptitude, I would’ve bailed by the end of 2013..

    • @salaparo2975
      @salaparo2975 9 місяців тому

      @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd It's called loyalty,something the McCaskey family knows nothing about.

    • @irishbearsfan12
      @irishbearsfan12 9 місяців тому +3

      Agree 💯 sadness and pain all there is for another 4-8 years for us Bears fans

    • @cameltoeinspector6015
      @cameltoeinspector6015 9 місяців тому +1

      same

  • @thomasfrench2012
    @thomasfrench2012 9 місяців тому +70

    What Dan needs to say is the following: "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

    • @deanhanan
      @deanhanan 9 місяців тому +12

      That is EXACTLY his sentiment!

    • @thomasfrench2012
      @thomasfrench2012 9 місяців тому +7

      @@deanhanan He needs to say it!

    • @wupapi39
      @wupapi39 9 місяців тому +2

      Dan needs to follow Nick Saban’s lead and retire. Nobody would miss him

    • @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd
      @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd 9 місяців тому +4

      @@wupapi39 Actually many would, because he’s the only one whose not nose deep up the team’s asscrack!

    • @dylanmoore8638
      @dylanmoore8638 9 місяців тому

      That's the most cliche quote on earth

  • @Toglander
    @Toglander 9 місяців тому +56

    The issue with not having an offensive head coach is that if you find a great offensive coordinator, he will leave to be someone else’s head coach. If you have a great offensive head coach, he is going nowhere. It’s why Andy Reid and Kyle Shanahan can lose offensive coordinators, and still have an effective offensive scheme. As it is, the goal for Eberflus is to find an awesome offensive coordinator. However, if he is successful in doing so, that coordinator will immediately leave to be a head coach and then Eberflus has to start the search all over again next year.

    • @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd
      @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd 9 місяців тому +1

      Bingo!

    • @robdaniel3211
      @robdaniel3211 9 місяців тому +4

      Who cares because 1 successful year under the right OC could set up Fields/draft pick for success every year after.

    • @Darkrezta
      @Darkrezta 9 місяців тому +8

      @@robdaniel3211 every year after? look at the eagles did they looked successful to you? how about atlanta falcon after shanahan gone? idk man you are talking nonsense to me.

    • @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd
      @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd 9 місяців тому

      @@robdaniel3211 Russel Wilson under Nathaniel Hackett’s system would like a word with you.

    • @robdaniel3211
      @robdaniel3211 9 місяців тому

      Atlanta’s QB got old and Hurts has been banged up all year.

  • @tmk128
    @tmk128 9 місяців тому +55

    I'm with Dan 100% , the Bears are always wrong in the way they go about things , Flus should have been gone with Getsy and everyone else !

    • @midwestkrazy83turner50
      @midwestkrazy83turner50 9 місяців тому +4

      💯💯💯

    • @JH-ht9nt
      @JH-ht9nt 9 місяців тому +1

      Great plan. Keep changing every two years because the next crew is guaranteed to be the answer

    • @mdsmith1019
      @mdsmith1019 9 місяців тому +5

      ​@JH-ht9nt or keep drafting a QB in the 1st round, then fire the coaches, and then make the new coach work around the QB you just drafted and hope it works out. It's the timing that is an issue and keeps the Bears in mediocrity, IMO. This year, Vrabel, Belichek, Ben Johnson, Bienemy, Reich, and others are all available. Many eould challenge LaFleur. Eberflus will not.

    • @midwestkrazy83turner50
      @midwestkrazy83turner50 9 місяців тому

      @@mdsmith1019 💯

    • @declanbrown5056
      @declanbrown5056 9 місяців тому +2

      ​​@@JH-ht9ntwell how long should a shitty coach get? Just out of curiosity, do you think trestman should have gotten more than two years? He had more wins then eberflus currently has, and is maybe the only bears coach I've seen with a functional modern offense (2013). Here's my question to anyone who honestly believes eberflus deserves to come back: Do you truly believe that eberflus can lead the bears to a Superbowl win? If the answer is anything but a confident yes, get rid of him. The bears have been so mediocre for so long that I think alot of fans are just conditioned to it. I can't predict the future and would love to be wrong, but keeping eberflus imo will ruin this rebuild, and the bears will have to start all over again in a few years but by then I'll probably find another hobby

  • @inorite4553
    @inorite4553 9 місяців тому +22

    The Bears are really good at justifying losing.

  • @MisterMxyzptlk1972
    @MisterMxyzptlk1972 9 місяців тому +15

    I swear this team can make a grown man cry.

  • @ernestmyers4914
    @ernestmyers4914 9 місяців тому +46

    Dan is so right about this .Dan feels just like I feel

  • @tjhopkins8663
    @tjhopkins8663 9 місяців тому +5

    DeMeco Ryans did the one thing the coaching here didn’t do: they took the gloves off Stroud immediately and let the chips fell where they did. Getsy clearly was still limiting Fields. 38 games is big enough sample size for Getsy to be like “this is what works, this is what doesn’t” but instead he wanted to bubble screen defenses to death

  • @WillyGrippo
    @WillyGrippo 9 місяців тому +28

    They're trusting the same guy who hired two assistants who got fired for misconduct

  • @Craig-in1un
    @Craig-in1un 9 місяців тому +3

    Grown men having emotional meltdowns over a sport is hard to watch.

  • @brothab740
    @brothab740 9 місяців тому +14

    After listening to today’s Press Conferences especially Kevin Warren.
    I’ve never agreed more strongly with Dan Bernstein and that rarely happens! Meet the new boss same as the old boss. This organization is a lost cause under the McCaskey family

    • @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd
      @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd 9 місяців тому +1

      I’d highly advise taking a LONG hiatus from this shitshow. I know I am when Poles is inevitably fired.

  • @plantex625
    @plantex625 9 місяців тому +11

    This guy at 16:01 is 10000000000% right. How can you not commit everything possible to putting the new QB in a position to succeed

  • @toddlevetzow9519
    @toddlevetzow9519 9 місяців тому +10

    I'm going to trust that Ryan Poles knows more than Dan Bernstein. Bernstein should tell Belichick, John Harbaugh, and Mike Tomlin they're not good enough because they aren't offensive minded coaches.

    • @ryanfraley7113
      @ryanfraley7113 9 місяців тому +1

      That sort of misses the point those guys were all able to hire great offensive coordinators at some point. Now Belichick might lose his job, Harbaugh went through a very lean stretch last few years before winning the division this year, and Tomlin hasn’t really hired a good offensive coordinator in a while. He had Matt Canada on his staff.

    • @michaeloneill3797
      @michaeloneill3797 9 місяців тому

      I want to trade for Tomlin!

    • @toddlevetzow9519
      @toddlevetzow9519 9 місяців тому +1

      @ryanfraley7113 I just believe the offensive minded vs defensive minded coaches is overblown. Good defensive coaches are successful because they understand offenses and good offensive coaches are successful because they understand how they'll be defended. Belichick went to Superbowls with 3 different OCs. Good coaches adapt systems to their players and win. I also would love Jim Harbaugh as HC because he's won everywhere he's been, but it doesn't mean Eberflus won't be good once the roster improves.

  • @davisdurand
    @davisdurand 9 місяців тому +8

    What a fantastic transition. Great conversation guys.

  • @jayskrill7427
    @jayskrill7427 9 місяців тому +5

    Sounds like AK and the Bulls with that continuity and cohesiveness BS!! Look at how far that has gotten them!! Fans want to see winning not continuity and cohesiveness!! I get the logic but wtf!! Its not working!!

  • @otiscleetus
    @otiscleetus 9 місяців тому +10

    I’m with Dan in the beginning - 100

  • @mrlaw711
    @mrlaw711 9 місяців тому +16

    Bear appear to be making the same mistakes over and over again. FLus is a good defensive coach but he's not a head coach. Many upgrades available to have let Flus go as well.

  • @SuperFanBrad
    @SuperFanBrad 9 місяців тому +7

    ah ha ha ha ha when Bernstein is upset that means good things are happening

  • @cc89183
    @cc89183 9 місяців тому +8

    Either way, I love listening to this group

  • @cornergroovy2156
    @cornergroovy2156 9 місяців тому +10

    Dan is absolutely correct. If Poles needs to be more involved with the hiring process of the offensive staff, then why is Eberflus still here? It just sounds like complacency to me, and ultimately, mediocrity. It's just another half-measure in a long line of them in Chicago Bears history. How the others justify it is beyond me. We've been here before. No offensive coordinator has survived for more than 2 years in Chicago in the past 2 decades. No quarterback has succeeded enough in that time frame. With this coach, what is the difference now?

  • @kamilrak3503
    @kamilrak3503 9 місяців тому +6

    most of the radio guys are against what went down at Halas both on radio or over social media. They feel they are the only ones who know how to do it the correct way.

    • @edgarlechuga2392
      @edgarlechuga2392 9 місяців тому +1

      Yes they are genius professionals Gms and professional coaches but they only do radio work but they should be hired

  • @obeddiaz-cortes3053
    @obeddiaz-cortes3053 9 місяців тому +13

    I agree with Dan. We saw this with Nagy/Pace. This is from the same playbook! This is the Collaboration 2.0 era again. Smh half ass way of building a winning team. The presser was identical to Nagy and Pace selling us the culture bs. Yet we're here talking about the same topic points that were made from the previous regime.

  • @jlive4u2
    @jlive4u2 9 місяців тому +35

    Bears have been one of the worst organizations in the NFL for the past 35 plus years. This is another example. The next generation are not becoming bears fans. Most fans are 40 and older and fading

    • @gilbertlloyd8691
      @gilbertlloyd8691 9 місяців тому

      🤣🤣 not even true. You don't pay attention to other teams I see.

    • @skipjohnson7255
      @skipjohnson7255 9 місяців тому +10

      I'm 76 , 60 years a fan and I've finally had enough of the McCaskeys always screwing things up !

    • @chuckface06
      @chuckface06 9 місяців тому +7

      This is true, and not talked about enough. My family are huge Bears fans, but the youngest among them are me and peer cousins (early 30s and older). The younger family either don't care, or they root for more talented teams and players. Same with my co-workers and their kids. My teenage daughter doesn't even follow football really, but when I'm watching redzone she likes Josh Allen and Diggs. The Bears need to win over the youth, or they're going to be like the White Sox in 15-20 years. A lot of people don't understand the significance of the 85 Bears, nor do they care.

    • @FormedVoid
      @FormedVoid 9 місяців тому +4

      @@skipjohnson7255I’m only 23 and been a fan since day 1. I’ve watched this happen for 20 or so years and it’s unbearable at this point. I can’t even begin to imagine a world in which the Bears come anywhere close to the franchise they once were.
      I can’t fathom how awful it’s been for you putting up with this for even longer. Kudos to you, and loyal fans within this fanbase deserve so much better than what we get every year!

    • @qaxcgyujm
      @qaxcgyujm 9 місяців тому +2

      ​​​@@gilbertlloyd8691Bears are 15-50 against their biggest 'rivals" since 1992 and 8 of those were during the Lovey Smith era. The Bears haven't had an All-Pro QB since the early 50s. The only thing they have to fallback on is a Super Bowl 40 yrs ago. They have been an organization with constant turnover and instability.

  • @mmarsaw1
    @mmarsaw1 9 місяців тому +6

    This is awesome. It's sounds like we all want the same thing. Success and the bar raised.

  • @thecmpunkchant
    @thecmpunkchant 9 місяців тому +15

    Dan is absolutely right. This is the same halfassed wishy washy Bears way nonsense, and the same results will continue. The Bears will continue to flounder because they refuse to join the big boy club, and would rather stay at the kiddie table.

  • @dennisp362
    @dennisp362 9 місяців тому +9

    Bears gonna be bears. We always mess up the coaching jobs.

  • @PEN-N-PAL
    @PEN-N-PAL 9 місяців тому +7

    *Matt Eberflus staying is the equivalent of George Halas keeping Buddy Ryan as the Bears DC while hiring Mike Ditka as the Head Coach and to manage the offense. Eberflus stays as Head Coach while managing the defense keeping it top 5-10 while the new OC begins directing the offense into a standout unit. Either way, Justin Fields learning a new offense will only bring back his "One Read" tendency into vogue again and the excuse of him learning a new offense will take center stage and becomes the built in excuse and reason why he hasn't grown in year 4 while the Bears have to make real financial decision commitment on him is unacceptable. Missing out on a better QB than Fields for more excuses is not an ideal situation. Justin Fields Needs To Go For His Own Sake.*

  • @32212Steve
    @32212Steve 9 місяців тому +3

    I can't believe we are scared about taking risks. They've actually dumbed us down to just be ok. You have the top pick with a QB prospect that we might not see in 5 years. Act accordingly and just go

  • @rrmond
    @rrmond 9 місяців тому +3

    I get it. The Bears have have put themselves in position to be better many times. They just can't ever get out of their own way long enough to get it right. Draft picks, free agents and coaching changes have come and gone.

  • @MichaelC_22
    @MichaelC_22 9 місяців тому +3

    Poor Dan. I think the Bears are driving him straight into Shady Acres with Ray Finkle.

  • @Mjg-kc6xd
    @Mjg-kc6xd 9 місяців тому +4

    I have never looked at the Bears sideline at halftime of a losing effort and thought - Don't worry, Eberflus will make the necessary adjustments to get a win. He isn't a head coach period.

  • @Swayzee33
    @Swayzee33 9 місяців тому +19

    I'm feeling every feeling that dan is feeling right now lol. I am sick of this infatuation with mediocrity that the Chicago Bears seem to have. They don't have the stones to make the big move and it's pathetic. You literally have Jim Harbaugh and Mike Vrabel available and you don't even reach out to those guys? I mean, the bears are an abomination of a franchise and frankly don't deserve to win a damn thing. I'm pissed just like Dan and I'm tired.

    • @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd
      @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd 9 місяців тому

      Yep, our fanbase is plagued with delusional masochists that will tear you apart for having the nerve to expect greatness…

    • @fidanasimpson5465
      @fidanasimpson5465 9 місяців тому +7

      Ownership is only concerned about money. Boycott the Bears.✊

    • @Swayzee33
      @Swayzee33 9 місяців тому

      @@fidanasimpson5465 ✊️

    • @mdsmith1019
      @mdsmith1019 9 місяців тому +1

      ​​@@fidanasimpson5465my son JUST started loving football. And the Bears are who they are. He asked for a Jaylen Hurts jersey for Christmas. And it pisses me off so much that I cancelled DirecTV and didn't order the NFL Sunday Ticket because why? The Bears don't care about winning so why do I want to give them my money? I'll go to a game in KC before I take the trip to Chicago to watch this abomination. I'm just one guy. It doesn't matter. But keep doing what they're doing and the Bears will be a poverty franchise like Cleveland or Detroit (before Campbell) or any other irrelevant team.

  • @wrongturn5089
    @wrongturn5089 9 місяців тому +12

    Bernstein's right

  • @mattbrennan9675
    @mattbrennan9675 9 місяців тому +4

    Danny is f'n spot on! We haven't had a solid coach since Ditka, SMH

  • @chrisfrantzis4351
    @chrisfrantzis4351 9 місяців тому +4

    Dan Bernstein on Matt Nagy, "See?! This is what a modern NFL offense looks like!"

    • @jaredsilvers2782
      @jaredsilvers2782 9 місяців тому

      It was true for about 8 weeks, then the NFL adjusted and Nagy never could, or didn't have the QB he needed to do it.

  • @michaelboldyga6239
    @michaelboldyga6239 9 місяців тому +6

    How can anyone say that the Bears were an improved team ? Here are four of the teams they beat this year, Carolina, Arizona, Washington , Atlanta. Those are four of the most horrible teams in all of football. Beating them is not a great feat . After that they had three other wins , same as last year ! They also had the softest schedule in the conference. Remember really good QBs excel in the fourth quarter, and that's where we were lacking !

    • @FromLasVegasU
      @FromLasVegasU 9 місяців тому

      The Bears have 7 wins, not 4. They beat Vikes, Raiders and Detroit. They should have beat Detroit and the Browns as well. Also Detroit has only beaten one winning team except for KC week 1 without Kelce. I believe Detroit's schedule was much softer than the Bears.

    • @kant5696
      @kant5696 9 місяців тому

      @@FromLasVegasUshoulda woulda coulda but they didn’t at the end of the day. They beat teams at the bottom of the barrel when there was talk of them being a possible playoff team this year. Thats celebrating mediocrity which bears fans have been doing since 85. Every year its “well they gotta get chemistry together, the oline, etc” same old tired lines.

    • @michaelboldyga6239
      @michaelboldyga6239 9 місяців тому

      @@FromLasVegasU I mentioned 4 teams they beat with worse records, I know they had 7 wins , also 2 of them were with Tyson Bagent , so Bagent has a better winning percentage. Just sayin !

  • @bearfan311
    @bearfan311 9 місяців тому +8

    What is all the talk about the team is trending better? Did I miss a win against the Packers or even a game they were competitive in?

  • @willieneal4543
    @willieneal4543 9 місяців тому +3

    Politics over performance is the Chicago bears legacy!

  • @MVPincorporated
    @MVPincorporated 9 місяців тому +2

    Love this type of conversation guys!

  • @josephstrouse6369
    @josephstrouse6369 9 місяців тому +2

    The easy thing is to draft a new QB Dan... the risk and being bold as you are asking them to be is to go against that, to once again trade down and get a haul and use those pieces to build up this team, much like Poles preaches on doing. Building a team to take the North. He is way more disciplined then the toddlers on the air waves who want instant gratification.

  • @anthonydavis3339
    @anthonydavis3339 9 місяців тому +5

    I’m done with the bears just done we always mess it up 🤦🏾‍♂️ IM DONE WITH THEM

  • @SIDEKILL3R
    @SIDEKILL3R 9 місяців тому +1

    Good content 670 The score!!! Enjoyed this debate keep it coming!!!

  • @johninphx9360
    @johninphx9360 9 місяців тому +1

    Winning will never happen with Uberloss as HC. He coaches scared and loses the 4th qtr and the game over and over. Coaching is the problem. Draft is irrelevant!

  • @robertbyington7715
    @robertbyington7715 9 місяців тому +1

    Dude is a 100 percent correct this is the Bears just gaslighting the fans we are here to win championships we can’t even best the Packers in a down year let alone win a division.

  • @stayslapped1568
    @stayslapped1568 9 місяців тому +1

    Laurence has been kind of a condescending jerk lately, Dan is right to be wanting more

  • @jwhite514
    @jwhite514 9 місяців тому +3

    WHY DOES EVERYONE THINK BRINGING IN A NEW QUARTERBACK WILL FIX THIS SORRY OFFENSIVE LINE YOU GOTTA BE CRAZY IF YOU CANT SEE THEY ARE ABOUT TO TRADE THE FIRST PICK GRAB MHJ AND PICK UP A LT OR PASS RUSHER

  • @jermainebrown3242
    @jermainebrown3242 9 місяців тому +10

    Lawrence is making a lot of sense. Here’s what I would’ve added if I was Lawrence. If you’re keeping JF (which this move increases the likelihood of happening) then going and getting a Greg Roman (who would take the job) makes sense. He’s worked and taken these QB’s to the playoffs and had success (Tyrod Taylor, Colin Kaepernick and Lamar Jackson who won unanimous MVP in 2019). He understands Justin Fields and therefore the learning curve will be less

    • @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd
      @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd 9 місяців тому +3

      No he’s not, most of those candidates would be awful! Kliff Kingsbury is inconsistent and a choke artist, Frank Reich hasn’t been good since 2019, Eric Bienemy was exposed as a fraud this year when he failed to show anything substantial with an underrated Washington offense, Tampa didn’t hesitate to can Byron Leftwitch, and if Greg Roman was as great as his resume would convince others to believe; why isn’t he still coordinating for the best team in the NFL, right now?

    • @jermainebrown3242
      @jermainebrown3242 9 місяців тому +2

      @@Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd you just showed your ignorance. Eric B has taken a mediocre QB in Sam Howell and made him look like a respectable QB. Oh with the SAME personnel from their Super Bowl year last year how is Kansas City’s offense looking this year? As far as your Greg Roman question I’m willing to bet you that if he was your OC this year instead of Luke Getzy the Bears is a playoff team THIS SEASON. Notice that every season when LJ was healthy for the entire season he helped lead them to the playoffs with limited weapons. He’s the right OC for a person like JF.

    • @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd
      @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd 9 місяців тому +4

      @@jermainebrown3242I’m showing my ignorance when San Howell actually got benched towards the end of the year, alongside their offensive ineptitude displayed throughout the majority of the season, and when Baltimore is the BEST TEAM IN THE LEAGUE the season after they replaced Roman??
      “Cocaine’s a hell of a drug”

    • @midwestkrazy83turner50
      @midwestkrazy83turner50 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@Elij💯💯💯ah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd

    • @tonymontiel3274
      @tonymontiel3274 9 місяців тому

      But why keep Justin Fields when you got a number one pick for a new QB? When are we going to have that chance again?

  • @jeffreystebel
    @jeffreystebel 9 місяців тому +10

    The Bears handled the issues this season appropriately, not easy. Made a great trade for Sweat then improved. They made a great decision today. 21 people who did their jobs well stayed, 5 who did their job poorly were let go. No need to completely overhaul. Now, add talent 10-12 pieces to the O and the final 2-3 pieces to the D. Fields is H1M.

    • @Trumpetjoe40
      @Trumpetjoe40 9 місяців тому +2

      I’m not sure Eberflus did his job well. The team was not prepared to start the season, both of his chosen coordinators are gone (one by HR??), three games where double digit leads were blown in the 4th quarter and one win against a team with a winning record. Not impressed.

    • @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd
      @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd 9 місяців тому +2

      @@Trumpetjoe40 And you’ll continue not to be, if his track record with slow starts in Indianapolis continues to haunt him; and yes I’m aware that he wasn’t the head coach in Indianapolis, but he was integrated into that complacent culture for at least a few seasons.
      So, I certainly won’t hold my breath nor faith in Eberflus, because more often than not, the apple doesn’t fall too far from the tree.

  • @coryworld11
    @coryworld11 9 місяців тому +5

    Raiders Brian Hoyer
    Washington Sam Howell
    Vikings Joshua Dobbs
    Atlanta Taylor Heinicke
    Arizona Kyler Murray
    Panthers Bryce Young
    Lions Jared Goff
    The defense got better look at the the suckie quarterbacks we beat....

  • @jaredsilvers2782
    @jaredsilvers2782 9 місяців тому +1

    This was amazing, I love a good heated Chicago sports debate.

  • @a.barker7792
    @a.barker7792 9 місяців тому +3

    Starts at the top and that part will never change.

  • @Killersam776
    @Killersam776 9 місяців тому +6

    I think most fans feel the way dan feels on this. We want them to do something different. They’re either trying to find the next it boy in an offensive guy who doesn’t call the plays like nagy or who was one of aaron rodgers’ guru in getsy. Or they’re picking the milk toast guy in eberflus, fox, trestman and so on. Then they finally fire them but only after they’ve drafted a new qb and get a new group of guys to deal with the previous people’s garbage. Rinse and repeat over and over. So to laurence, it isn’t that this way is wrong. It’s that we’ve definitely seen this song before and actually want something different. They even mention slowik in houston but completely fail to mention the entire staff was new with demeco ryans. THAT is what we want. Bring in a new HC, who will bring in a whole new staff and you end up with what the texans got this year. Shocking how that works

  • @tjspanos4257
    @tjspanos4257 9 місяців тому +3

    Bernstein is Spot On ….. Bears Never Bold.
    History in the NFL with World Champions is Bold ! Start reviewing
    Rams leave St. Louis trade for Stafford
    Cowboys hire Jimmy Johnson
    Draft Aikman / Irving / Emmitt with a ton
    Of Draft capital cuz of the Herschel Walker trade.

  • @edwardtatum9930
    @edwardtatum9930 9 місяців тому +2

    The Bears need to start with a foundation. No players, that where it starts. How many veterans do they have? They are starting the right way.

  • @AngelMartinez-uv7bc
    @AngelMartinez-uv7bc 9 місяців тому +3

    “Generational talent” yet still worried about not the best offensive minded HC being there for him. Thought this player is transcendent and would overcome something like that. Bears put QBs in bad spots, so if they rock with Justin and put him in the ideal spot with an O line and weapons that would be wrong to do apparently 🤔.

    • @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd
      @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd 9 місяців тому

      I guess when you endorse mediocrity for so long, it consumes you whole and you become defensive towards anyone who dares to point out, the obvious red flags..

  • @WoodyRYW
    @WoodyRYW 9 місяців тому +4

    Holmes' stance in this debate annoys me so much. Having zero conviction in anyway while being there to basically say "there are many possibilities" and being so bland is just exhausting. At least Dan, Danny and Spiegs have an actual stance.

  • @foodpowerreviews7032
    @foodpowerreviews7032 9 місяців тому +4

    He's right, the Bears doing the same old same old and it's going to result in the same old same old results.

  • @ExcitedFishWaffle-ud6kd
    @ExcitedFishWaffle-ud6kd 9 місяців тому +1

    Kevin told you clowns, he's not quick to pull the trigger and break up. Everything you can't just keep doing that every year. Stay the course

  • @foreverfree3953
    @foreverfree3953 9 місяців тому +1

    Love the banter and passion from this home grown station..

  • @KevoUptownChicago
    @KevoUptownChicago 9 місяців тому +2

    I dont know the Guy thats saying the Bears had the opportunity to go Big is absolutely correct, its the same ol story, the Bears had the opportunity to get rid of Getsy after week 3 but wasnt bold enough to make a move. Then come season end we get the same ol script about direction and philosophy when we've seen the lack of both.

  • @GoBearsFTP
    @GoBearsFTP 9 місяців тому +1

    I hardly tune in to the Score these days. However, I was so infuriated by the Bears' choice to stick with Eberflus without even acknowledging other candidates that I craved some rants on the Score. Even though I can't stand Berstein, he nailed it on this topic!

  • @mastert2990
    @mastert2990 9 місяців тому

    One thing I cant agree with is the whole "The Defense will be a top 5 Defense no matter who is coaching" arguement. Have we really forgotten what the vic fangio > sean desai transition was like already... coahing matters on both sides of the ball.

  • @Candesious
    @Candesious 9 місяців тому +2

    @Danny Parkins The 2 Qbs coming in Browning on Cincy and Love Green Bay Show what Bears issue has been and why Fields here and not Gone Browning came to Cincy in 2021 so was in system for 2 1/2 yrs had time to learn it and it was already successful and Love has been Rogers back up for like 4 or 5 yrs also able to study and be in a successful system Bears hopefully get successful OC on place and Move forward tbh could be a few pieces from having playoff team again

  • @Dubberzz
    @Dubberzz 9 місяців тому +3

    Analysts are going overboard on first years staffs and QBs without addressing that in many cases, it blows up in a team's face. Nagy is a perfect example. He comes in, league doesn't have any tape or any indication of what the team is going to do, so the team has success. Then after weaknesses are revealed and adjustments are made, the team regresses and the inexperience of the coaches gets exposed.
    So why is everyone so convinced that Stroud and the Texans aren't a product of this trend?

    • @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd
      @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd 9 місяців тому +3

      You could be right, but their offense looks leagues above Nagy’s 2018 offense.

    • @Dubberzz
      @Dubberzz 9 місяців тому

      How do you figure? 2018 Bears were ranked significantly higher both offensively and defensively than the Texans and only lost 4 games. Stroud as a QB was better than Trubisky that season, but overall, the Bears were the better team.
      Nagy and the 2018 Bears is just one example though. It occurs quite a bit. I only looked at 6 teams histories over the past decade and came up with 4 examples, so it's fairly common. Nagy and the Bears, Caldwell in Detroit. Gase in Miami. Bowles and the Jets (I just don't want to spend a bunch of time looking through every team.)
      Point is, take all this hype around Stroud and the Texans with a grain of salt. They could be great, but they could regress too. One season just isn't enough of a sample size to be so confident in what they are. And it's not proven that Texan hit big with Stroud yet.
      @@Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd

    • @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd
      @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd 9 місяців тому +2

      @@DubberzzI agree with the uncertainty of the Texans, but trust me, I remember when that 2018 team played actual defenses; it was usually ugly.

    • @Texasman66
      @Texasman66 9 місяців тому +1

      I'm a Texans fan and they have a lot of good players on that team and are only going to get better!!!

    • @ashleythomas1001
      @ashleythomas1001 9 місяців тому

      They don’t. But they also ignore that CJ Stroud is so successful is because he has a coach that plays to his strengths.

  • @RaviComeUp
    @RaviComeUp 9 місяців тому +1

    Lawrence stanning for Fields is funny. 140 passing against the pack and never beating them. LoHo Loho Loho. Not to mention 162 career avg from the air. Imagine passing up top QBs for this. Park actually has a point here.

    • @antmyrick2063
      @antmyrick2063 9 місяців тому

      History as shown different with top QBs

  • @aturner3246
    @aturner3246 9 місяців тому

    Great debate! Incredible passion! Sadly, debates don't win championships! I hear a lot of "stating the issue," and that too, does not win anything. It's like getting a flat tire, and you spend time talking about, "I must have run over a nail,"or "I did not see that pothole," when what you should be doing is just fixing the flat!! Discuss solutions, it's much more productive. If you think your patience has run out, I've been a Bears fan since 1959! Go Bears!

  • @Mjg-kc6xd
    @Mjg-kc6xd 9 місяців тому +2

    Never thought I would say this, but I agree with Bernstein

  • @Keithjhall
    @Keithjhall 9 місяців тому +1

    WHY wouldn't you want multiple people involved to hire the BEST OC?!

  • @devinletcher1693
    @devinletcher1693 9 місяців тому +2

    Firing Luke Getsy is a start! Go Bears

  • @maashmedia8958
    @maashmedia8958 9 місяців тому +1

    18:35 Dan B is just frustrated cause he wants them to win. However he wants the team to win. I just don't agree completely with this blowup. Expect this off season to be offense heavy with a couple big swings at edge rush. I don't think this is same cause I think Poles is a pretty smart GM.

  • @alessandroaguas7515
    @alessandroaguas7515 9 місяців тому +1

    Lawrence is a tool. Dan isn't overreacting, the Bears are underreacting.

  • @chicity222
    @chicity222 9 місяців тому +2

    All 4 on one show is pretty good

  • @skipjohnson7255
    @skipjohnson7255 9 місяців тому +4

    The Bears never will get it right with the McCaskeys as owners !!

  • @Jviotr
    @Jviotr 9 місяців тому +1

    Especially with Jim Harbaugh and Vrabel on the market.. they keep Eberflus?

  • @UKBornin1971
    @UKBornin1971 9 місяців тому +1

    Dan is such a whiner, good grief.

  • @paulhester489
    @paulhester489 9 місяців тому +1

    Dan crazy. Poles first Bears GM to put Bears in position to draft number back to back.

  • @WormChi312
    @WormChi312 9 місяців тому +1

    Couldn’t agree more. The fact that they didn’t even reach out to Harbaugh is insulting as a die hard.

  • @tomrockhill8634
    @tomrockhill8634 9 місяців тому +1

    They can always just kick the can down the road and try it all one more time. Keep Fields, trade down and get another first for next year. Pick up the Wideout and D lineman with the first two picks. That gives the team another shot at getting it right with the new talent. If it's still not right, you'll have two firsts next year.

    • @gregskeebo
      @gregskeebo 9 місяців тому

      EXACTLY! EVERY ONE IS SO IMPATIENT! SHADEUR SANDERS COULD BE AVAILABLE IF JUSTIN DOES NOT WORK OUT. I BELIEVE HIS NUMBER WOULD BE ABOUT $25M TO TRY TO TRADE. ANY TEAM WHO THINKS THEY CAN “FIX H1M” WOULD BE CLIMBING OVER EACH OTHER FOR SUCH A CHEAP PRICE IN THE QB MARKET!!

  • @asmgem
    @asmgem 9 місяців тому +1

    Not often we get this great debate on the show ( imo). I don't often agree with Bernstein, usually like what Holmes brings. Today though- Bernstein is right and Holmes is emblematic of what the Bears approach always seems to be, and the Bears results aren't good. Holmes makes valid points , but Bernstein is right here:
    take a crap or get off the pot. Bears have never aligned the offensive side of the ball from HC, OC to QB at the same time and level. There is so much going there in Chicago scenario. To me its hard to imagine trading away yet another top overall pick and potentially skipping out on 2-3 potential even probable all pros.
    To wit , Bears have passed on Mahomes, Stroud and seem likely to pass on the next one, whether it be Williams, Maye ,Daniels or other. Its mind boggling. Yet they should at least keep trying for QB, if they don't want to try might as well stay home. To not take a QB 1 overall is to say they have THE answer. When have the Bears EVER had THE answer LOL

  • @desed4578
    @desed4578 9 місяців тому +3

    Actually on Bernsteins side on this one...lol

  • @hasanshaikh4463
    @hasanshaikh4463 9 місяців тому +1

    Dan is right

  • @brianbrady-youthengage5269
    @brianbrady-youthengage5269 9 місяців тому +2

    Per usual going overboard...yes, yes, yes, thank you Lawrence.

  • @gabrielruiz822
    @gabrielruiz822 9 місяців тому +2

    Bernstein ranting on the ledge!😂 Holmes the voice of reason

  • @rtarde5384
    @rtarde5384 9 місяців тому +6

    Dan is the only one who sees the emperor has no clothes. Laurence, Matt, and. Danny P. are firmly ensconced in the reality distortion field spun up by Bears brass year after year where mediocrity in the organization is rewarded as long as you’re a nice guy. The emphasis is always on improvement but never enough to where you actually win. Just look at the record for the last 30 years.

  • @chicagojim7540
    @chicagojim7540 9 місяців тому +5

    What top OC would take a job with this situation? You have one year to make the playoffs, or you are out with the head coach.

    • @robdaniel3211
      @robdaniel3211 9 місяців тому

      One that doesn’t call plays currently or one that if he unlocks Fields or does well with a draft pick would instantly become a HC somewhere while not getting consideration now.

    • @Texasman66
      @Texasman66 9 місяців тому

      Or he is good and leaves for a head coaching job!!!

  • @angeloruccia2895
    @angeloruccia2895 9 місяців тому +4

    Wow Iam never lock step with Bernsie but wow I totally agree with him here

  • @brianstollings6416
    @brianstollings6416 9 місяців тому

    As a Packer fan who lives in Chicago, I really wish you guys would figure it out. This conversation is getting old even for me.

  • @MrSwade009
    @MrSwade009 9 місяців тому +1

    This is the best coaching offseason in NFL history and you don’t fire your coach…

  • @puddlepirate2610
    @puddlepirate2610 9 місяців тому +1

    The new age “Golden Girls” for Chicago sports!!!

  • @MikeStetzer
    @MikeStetzer 9 місяців тому +2

    The Bears never learn. Keep Fox, draft Trubisky, fire Fox. Keep Nagy, draft Fields, fire Nagy. Keep Flus, draft….How is there nobody in that building saying “let’s not make this mistake 3 times in a row”?

    • @Mattn495
      @Mattn495 9 місяців тому +2

      It’s been more than that. You forgot keep Jauron, draft Grossman, fire Jauron. Keep Lovie, trade for Cutler, fire Lovie and Trestman inherits Cutler. This is they way they do business unfortunately.

    • @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd
      @Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd 9 місяців тому

      @@Mattn495 If the world was based on logic, the McCrapskeys would’ve gone bankrupt by 2015..

  • @scarface1961
    @scarface1961 9 місяців тому +3

    The Bears schedule is very weak next year; not many teams on there with winning records. Those are the types of teams the Bears beat this year. They beat only one team with a winning record this year. The majority of those wins were against back-up qb’s. A monkey at HC could win 10-12 games next year. Flus will do so next year and will get an extension regardless of who is at qb. And, if Fields is still here, he will get an extension for this perceived improvement (measured by team wins). The following year when they have a tougher schedule, they will sink back to where they are now or worse and mediocrity will continue for several years to come. They will be a rudderless team without a quarterback 3 years from now. Since the '86 Super Bowl team, we have never had a HC or quarterback leave the Bears and become extremely successful somewhere else. That is because they settle for mediocre all the time and have done it once again!

  • @d.j.8059
    @d.j.8059 9 місяців тому

    How does Spiegel get away with pointing out that the Texans changed their QB and OC without mentioning that they ALSO changed the head coach?

  • @user-xu1bi1jq4x
    @user-xu1bi1jq4x 9 місяців тому +1

    Not a fields fan but if you pick Caleb, youre giving up a 1st 2nd and a starter for him. Thats insane. Trade down, get picks and a player. Draft MHJ. Pay awful fields 6 million but maybe gat penix or nix or....?????

  • @michaeloneill3797
    @michaeloneill3797 9 місяців тому +1

    DAN IS CORRECT!! The Bears needed to make EberFLUSTERED the D Coordinator and they needed to HIRE The Best Head Coach possible!
    Dan is correct, this is more
    Of the same!
    Now pray that Poles is able to draft amazingly well again; so amazingly well that average coaching is still able to get us a Super Bowl. The
    Roster MUST be sooo strong that the average coaching staff cannot f them up

  • @benkiie5348
    @benkiie5348 9 місяців тому +1

    I`m a ravens fan but the decision to keep eberflus is crazy. the man is a bozo and will be fired next season.