Building a Banshee - 2020 Banshee Paradox V3 Build - Hardtail Party
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- Опубліковано 6 бер 2020
- In this episode I build up a new 2020 Banshee Paradox V3 hardtail frame that I got in for review. A bunch of you contacted me saying you were curious about this bike, so I figured I'd get one in for review. Thank you Banshee for sending us this sweet frame.
Banshee claims "Aggressive geometry, combined with our bespoke hydroformed tubeset and internally ribbed stays, the Paradox V3 delivers a comfortable ride with vertical compliance and incredible power transfer due to best in class lateral stiffness." Let's put it to the test to see if this bike lives up to these claims.
To learn more about the frame, head here: www.bansheebikes.com/paradox-v3
Stay tuned for more videos with this bike, including a full review at the end.
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Great looking bike, and it went together very well. I can't wait to see the review on this bike. It
looks like a real ripper. Time for another party in the mountains. Stay safe.
Love the color. Waiting to here your thoughts on it!
Great looking bike! Can't wait to see the ride review.
Can't believe you got a Banshe hardtail! So stoked for you.
I’m looking forward to your review.
Can't wait for the review Steve!
Just ordered one🤙
OMG! Dude you are killing me! Been watching your review and build videos for the last 3 days and after each one I tell myself "Oh that's the one I want." Guess I'll bite the bullet and see you on Patreon. You don't miss a beat when you review and I love "Family Friendly" channel. Thanks!
Your RSD titanium hard tail frame looks a lot like my Ti HT. Interesting. I can't wait for your review of the Banchee and how it compares to the Middle child Ti.
Love that color. Great looking bike!
nice work! looks good!
The most supple riding alloy ht i have had was the older yelli screamy frames. The round tubes on thre front triangle allowed it to flex at the head tube giving it a little cushion but they also cracked there
I have a Wheels Manufacturing BSA BB with the angular bearings, this is a great BB! I completely agree that it’s not about weight . My Esker Hayduke has a Renthal aluminum FatBar, 34Fox, heavy Hadley hubs with RaceFace ARC 35 alloy rims and Teravail Honcho Durable tires. It’s 28 pounds but smashes the single track!
Yeah, this bottom bracket is amazing. Couldn't be happier. Glad you're loving your heyduke
Can not wait to hear how you Like it on the trail was looking at this frame but not sure I would want to go back to Aluminum... touch up paint is nice to have. my NS Surge came with touch up Paint but it was Smashed open and all dried out..
Looking forward to your impressions Steve, this was on my radar before I ended up with the Fuse. Very cool frame design. Bummer about the paint niggles - I dig the raw Al finish they have. Taking the Fuse on it’s maiden voyage with 29x2.8’s tomorrow BTW!
Which 29x2.8s are you running? I'm surprised they fit.
hardtail party Your favorite tires - Rekons! ;) They actually fit with nice clearance even with the chain stays on the Fuse in the shortest position which is cool. I have them mounted on 35 mm rims so they are a full 2.8. They are light, fast rolling, and have a pretty good amount of grip at this width.
Clamping on the seat tube😲 Sweet frame. Looking forward to ride report.
Not a problem clamping the seat tube. Urban myth.
DANG That looks clean!
Looks good
My fezzari came with a little vial of touch up paint I was surprised. That's a nice touch.
Wow, what a great concept! I wish Cotic had sent me a bit of touch-up paint with my Soul frame, especially since it arrived with a small chip in the paint near the lower edge of the head tube. Probably the paint chipped out when the head tube was faced.
Nice...so jealous right now
Great video! I ordered the clear raw frame, a few weeks out still. Reminds me of a BMX kinda looking MTB.. building mine up 27.5 x 2.8 with that same Pike 150 and ibis wheels. Looking forward to see more on this one!
Nice, congrats! I plan on tossing the plus wheelset on for a bit too. I'll be sure to include that in the review.
Danny H I built one as a mullet too. Dvo diamond at 150mm. My favorite bike It handles like a F1 car
Thanks for the great video, especially useful since i ordered a frame and i'm gathering parts for a nice build. One question for you: What max length would you recommend for a dropper post, on an XL frame? (website says max seatpost insertion is 248mm, my height is 6.3"). Cheers!
My Hardtail uses 853 Reynolds. It’s the IF Steel Deluxe and the ride is very nice.
Hi, Great review, I watched all 3 concerning this frame, I have a chance to buy one on CL , that is what brought me here, and would like to know what is the stand over height on a medium frame? I'm 5''7" and have an inseam of 30" the frame in question is a medium, like the one you have. thanks.
Nice bike😊
Does the frame kit come with a crown race?
Building up a paradox v3 now and trying to order the last few random parts. I know it comes with a 44/56 zero stack headset, I will be using a tapered fork. I just do not know if I need to buy a crown race, and which ones will work with the pre-installed Banshee Paradox V3 lower headset.
Thanks for the channel and all of the detailed reviews!
Very nice, where i can find a frame i've been trying to find one but still dont get any answer from banshee. Thanks
Do i also need to use the spacer on the drive side when im installing the bashguard munt? I have a sram dub bsa.
Thanks:)
Thanks for the review & build - I'm looking to build my first 29'er & have ordered the XL frame - could you help with a list of components? Any advice appreciated.
There are far too many variables for me to make a blanket recommendation, apart from these zipp 3zero Moto wheels (link in description). Budget will play the biggest role. If money is a non-issue, I like sram x01 drivetrain and code rsc brakes. I like the pike ultimate for the fork, it's my favorite.
Thanks for the awesome channel.
I wish Dartmoor Bikes from Poland sends you frames like Hornet and Hornet Pro for review :-)
Me too. I've reached out to them many times.
It would not look as clean, but you could run the rear brake hose along the top tube and seatstay to give it a few inches.
Unfortunately there aren't any cable mounts up there.
Buy yes, that's why my middle child brakes didn't fit in this bike; they were routed differently before.
Look into the Sonder transmitter. I’m sure you’d love it
I'd LOVE to try one! I reached out to get one for review. Fingers crossed they are interested in partnering together for the review.
Bro, nice hardtrail, what handlebars you put it ??
I've been looking for a hardtail and this is high on my list and would be my dream bike so cant wait to hear your review, are you running it on 29" wheels? I saw another review of a guy that made it a mullet bike which I was keen to do as he said it made it more maneuverable/playful. But after your wheel size video i'm not so sure now, so will wait to get your impressions. Keep up the amazing work.
I'm running 29" wheels at the moment, but I'll toss on my 27.5+ wheels too for the review. I like mullet setups if your trails are super steep, but if they're flat and pedally, I prefer non-mullet.
Check out oz cycles, he’s got the best waxing method and recipe for chains, he’s an Aussie guy making things work, he’s even done a comparison to molten speedwax
Hey Steve, what’s your preferred stem length? Is that a 40mm?
Do you think a 29x2.6 would fit on the back?
What rear brake adapter do you use?
Do you have a list of parts you're running on the banshee?
Looks like a really interesting frame!
Love the Onyx hubs. Is it the Vesper?
Yes, this is the vesper rear hub.
I want to demo this and their 115mm 29er. Is this one of the ones that can run boost or non boost depending on the dropouts?
I believe this frame is boost only. You could always run spacers on a non boost hub.
I have a preference for steel hardtails myself, however, after riding a few aluminium ht I've noticed they don't all ride as harsh as I imagined. For instance my old 97 Specialized Rockhopper was a super harsh ride you felt every rock and root as a sharp ping. On the other hand an old GT Richochet I rode, for a while, seemed more muted in the same conditions. It will be interesting to hear how this Alu frame rides vs your Ti frame. I've wanted a Ti frame for, uh, ever! Steel is still cheaper, so my latest is a Cotic Soul. I'm still getting it put together.
I used to ride a cotic soul. I liked that bike.
@@hardtailparty The Soul, with its 835 steel main triangle, is very light weight compared to most 4130 Chromo frames, about a pound lighter. Mine is a 5th gen with a slacker, lower geo, I'm hoping I like the way it rides. I'm switching from a more traditional early 2000's frame geometry, my old Xero Flux, a rebadged KHS True Temper frame. I enjoy that bike, but would like something a bit more capable, and able to run wider, tubeless tires (at lower pressures), for better grip and a slightly more compliant ride. It would be nice to ride my tires with at least 10 lbs less pressure. By the way, I really enjoy your channel. Keep it up!
Hi Steve, what's the widest 29er combo you've fit on the Banshee w/o rubbing? I've run a 2.6" Rekon on a 35i rim and it was super close. I'm looking for new rims and hoping a 40i rim will fit with a 2.6" since a 40i is what I plan to run on my Maniak when it arrives! :) Thanks!
I've never tried anything wider than a 29x2.6 on a 33i, sorry.
Good looking frame. Stand over looks higher on the banshee, Anything noticeable?
Standover is great. Stack is high. (Which I love)
Hello, Im new to your channel and I need to ask your honest opinnion. I will be building an agressive hard tail and will be running Maxxis Assagi 2.6 tires on WTB KOM 27.5 40mm rims and I am torn between the Middle child and this Banshee Paradox v3. Which one did you enjoy more and why. Thanks alot and I really enjoy your channel.
Both are fantastic bikes. You can't go wrong with either. Here's how I'd rank them:
Mc ti tied with paradox
Mc steel I like less than both of those.
ohh.. i love hardtail..
Which versions of the Assegai are you running?
2.5 dual compound exo
I Am Looking to get a trek Stache 8. Any other bikes i should look at before i get it. thanks fro the awesome hardtail vids. they are the best mtb's
I need more info to make a recommendation. The stache is a super fun bike for exploring, bikepacking, and mellow trails. For high speeds and technical riding, i recommend something different.
I would look at the specialized fuse and the vitus sentier.
Hey steve, odd question but are those the 5ten sleuth shoes you’re wearing?
Yes, regular sleuths. Not a fan. The sleuth dekuxes have s1 rubber. The regular sleuths have non sticky rubber. I'll be returning them. They're also super narrow and run a half size too big
Pretty nice 😮😍🤣
how much is the price of the frame ? please
Once you wax you never go back! love molten
I'm having a hard time getting it to last very long here in Arizona. I'm lucky if I get 6-10 rides before it starts making noise.
@@hardtailparty i wax my chain, but i use Squirt wax lube when it gets noisey so i dont have to re wax. works great. Squirt is also great on its on. My fav lube, fully compatible with wax.
What price this frame bro?
Just curious, about how much would this build cost with the components you used? Even a rough estimate would be helpful. Thank you!
If you were to purchase everything brand new at full retail, it would be extremely expensive. $950 for the fork, $2000 for the wheels, $430 for the dropper, and the rest of the components cost at least $900. Fortunately, there are cheaper ways to build this up and still have great performance. There's no need to go all-out like this. And building up a frame piece by piece is always more expensive than buying a complete bike.
@@hardtailparty Thanks for the response! I have been thinking about tearing my current GT apart to reuse some components, but unfortunately there's not much that I can keep and still use the new XT 12-speed drivetrain. Good to know a package deal will always be a better budget-friendly option.
Suggestion: how about some place to see your overall ranking of these bikes for comparison sake. I know, that sounds like a pain in the butt to me too. But I wanted to throw it out there. Bonus for Patreon’s maybe.
That's a great idea. I feel like the rank order would depend on different things, since some aren't clearly "better" than others, just different.
Super nice video! Can you translate weights in kilos for us europeans?😅
This or the chromags?
Will you take a look at the Ritchey Ultra?
I'd like to, but the head tube angle and the reach are still stuck in the past. It's too bad, I'll bet this bike would rip with a 66* hta and a longer reach. The geo makes it look like it will ride like a timberjack or a shorter chameleon.
@@hardtailparty thanks for the fast reply, i guess thats gonna be a No as well to the surly Karate Monkey, numbers are even worse imo
yeah, pretty dated geo. I'd be open to reviewing them sometime on the channel, but I have some more modern and exciting bikes coming in that take precedence. I've ridden a lot of traditional geo bikes, and now that I've ridden more modern bikes, I'm hooked on the longer, slacker bikes.
I'm not normally a fan of yellow, but that looks pretty awesome!
Agreed. It's even cooler in person.
When is the tool box review coming out?
I filmed a whole video about it but accidentally deleted the footage. Super bummed about that.
This frame looks sick. Can I ask how tall you are?
Sure I'm 5'6". I have very short legs and a long torso. So I have the reach/torso of someone 5/10" and the legs of someone 5'4". I like a 440-450mm reach.
@@hardtailparty Nice build review! Do you think the Medium size would fit someone who's 5'4" with average torso and legs? Can you get the seatpost in far enough to get the seat out of the way?
@@prshrzd it would be close. With a 125mm dropper it shouldn't be a problem. I have a 29" inseam. What's your inseam?
@@hardtailparty I'm a 29" inseam also. But you have a long torso. It's the effective top tube that's about an inch longer than I normally ride...
Compare this to the aluminum Chameleon for typical desert trail riding? Fast and flowy, not tech and chunky.
this frame really look like enlarge dj frame
WEND wax is 100X better than the molten brand ive been experimenting for quite sometime with different brands....i can send you some (hit me up)
Thanks, I might have to try that.
@@hardtailparty I prefer squirt lube to wend wax. I'm not completly sure the wend wax gets fully into the rollers because its solid and not liquid.
Aluminum gets a bad reputation and for our wallets sake we should keep it that way
Full suspension bikes are unnecessary
I think they're the right choice a lot of the time, but I see a lot of people with way more bike than they need.
What brakes does your DH bike have?
I don't have a dh bike, just an Enduro bike. I run guide rdc. I'd REALLY like to ride code rscs but they're not in the budget.
@@hardtailparty Thank you. Was thinking about going Guide R/RE to upgrade from my Level TLM, but shop told me going to 200/203mm f/r would be good upgrade & then if I don't like it move to the RE.