The Easiest Wind Generator You'll Ever Make

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  • @eknott1000
    @eknott1000 3 роки тому +248

    Great video! I worked with small wind generators for a number of years. I noticed a stress point, on the way the blades are mounted to the plastic fan blades, over time the original blades will stress crack and fail. If you ad a blade brace to tie in all four blades on the front side of the blades, you will eliminate much of the stress on the original fan and give your windmill more longevity!
    Ed

    • @robertwoodliff2536
      @robertwoodliff2536 3 роки тому +11

      I was thinking about that, 'cos these things are built to a price. My perception is even a small diameter secondary disc / "washer" the size of the original fan , would help reduce the flex / stress on the fan root..

    • @Nevir202
      @Nevir202 2 роки тому +4

      Ya, I was thinking the same'. Those radiator fan blades always look like they may explode at any moment after a decade on a car under normal use, can't imagine how much worse the stress is when doing something like this lol.

    • @georgesvideos6837
      @georgesvideos6837 2 роки тому +27

      If you actually add a cone to the nose of the blade that covers 20% of the blade surface you reduce the stress on the blades and increase the efficiency of the whole system because it reduces the drag.

    • @Jim-re3sr
      @Jim-re3sr 2 роки тому +6

      Great video the motor should be water resistant since it was subjected to some spray sitting behind the radiator

    • @mikearchibald744
      @mikearchibald744 2 роки тому +9

      I love these videos and love the comments even more. Learning really is a communal experience. For 'free', and if you have some time, you can find online where people carve the blades just out of scrap wood. Some wood blades have been known to outlive some metal ones. I'm going to remember that about the washers and cone. I have a neighbour with quite a junk collection, I mean 'stuff' collection, I'm going to go looking for fans.

  • @GaisaSanktejo
    @GaisaSanktejo 2 роки тому +224

    Small heads up for anyone making these: BROWN soil pipe is prone to deteriorating when exposed to UV light, so if you have to use brown soil pipe, I would suggest painting it or using some kind of UV inhibitor
    Modern black, grey or white soil pipe, on the other hand, is UV resistant 😉

    • @Johny40Se7en
      @Johny40Se7en Рік тому

      Cheers for the tip 👍

    • @montumeroe9593
      @montumeroe9593 Рік тому

      Cheers thanks

    • @johnh9748
      @johnh9748 Рік тому +2

      This depends on the location. White pipe is normally NOT UV resistant in North America.

    • @GaisaSanktejo
      @GaisaSanktejo Рік тому +4

      @@johnh9748 Fair enough, then wherever you hail from, you need to be sure the plastic is UV resistant :P

    • @azizsetyawan3038
      @azizsetyawan3038 5 місяців тому

      Who cares. It's cheap anyway

  • @joshuahall1250
    @joshuahall1250 3 роки тому +356

    2 minutes into it and i knew i could spend an entire 48 hours with you in a shop and it would feel like 4 hours went by. Curiosity, tools, knowledge. Like kids in a toy store. Awesome.

  • @pariaentrada
    @pariaentrada Рік тому +17

    I'm female, older, still working, and am limited in both financial resources and time. I watch a LOT of UA-cam vids on how to make projects simply, inexpensively, and that save me time. Your vids are always spot on and simple. So they are my first go to when I am looking for a solution. I love your shop! I agree with another comment, you need a companion video on how to mount this, and I would add, your simple windmill needs a tail so it can turn with the wind, as well as an easy to use breaking mechanism for when there's too much wind. Would be interested in a vid on these things too. Thanks for your videos! I'm a huge fan, excuse the pun!

  • @leifhietala8074
    @leifhietala8074 4 роки тому +67

    That was actually pretty awesome. I never considered the fact that there are HUNDREDS of inexpensive but robust, long-lived DC motors that can just as easily become stout little generators just hanging out at the Pull-A-Part. And some of them are even kind of big, larger units for cooling larger pickups and SUVs.

    • @batbee7427
      @batbee7427 Рік тому +4

      Good point that some might not even need to be upscaled. Especially in high wind environments.

  • @bingosunnoon9341
    @bingosunnoon9341 3 роки тому +28

    My grandpa had a wind generator this size on his barn. Put a fan on a Model T generator so he could listen to his radio. The farm didn't have electricity. It put out 12 volts at 2 amps on a windy day. He made his own batteries too.

    • @rosskstar
      @rosskstar Рік тому +1

      So rain doesn't hurt them?

    • @devarmont87
      @devarmont87 Рік тому +1

      @@rosskstar cars are designed to get wet, you drive in rain?
      You probably couldn't submerge the motor.
      But downpour of rain could not effect the motor if it's sealed

    • @rosskstar
      @rosskstar Рік тому +3

      @@devarmont87 dat zouns loggeecul - y u so smawt?
      lol thanks

    • @devarmont87
      @devarmont87 Рік тому +1

      @@rosskstar me smort?
      Nah, I is lerming

  • @brittond14
    @brittond14 4 роки тому +23

    One of the things that I like about your videos is the fact that you flat out enjoy what you do! Most of your videos seem to convey that without seeming acted out or scripted. Good show!

  • @RobMacKendrick
    @RobMacKendrick 4 роки тому +34

    Years ago I was teaching in a remote school on a small island in the North Pacific. One of my students built a wind turbine much like this one, except he used a car alternator to generate the power and whittled 4-foot blades out of 2x4s. He mounted it on a 20-foot pole outside the school shop, and when word got round (tiny school) that he was ready to raise it we all turned out to watch.
    The best description I can give is "terrifying". That 8' span instantly took the sea wind and the thing just started wamp-wamp-wamping like it would eat the world. Chris finally managed to stop the blades by turning them out of the wind (which meant he had to get up on a ladder right behind those freakin' whirling broadswords and push on the vane), but the concept was well-proven. I don't remember how much electricity he banked in the battery during that maiden run, but all who witnessed it undoubtedly remain impressed by the sheer power he'd harnessed.

    • @robertwoodliff2536
      @robertwoodliff2536 3 роки тому

      ......the apprentices of BTH built one at the halls that they had outside Rugby, it had thin ply blades, which they perceived to getting close the the sound barrier.......the rain/hale of the storm delaminated it. These were the guys who also broadcast radio down the neutral and earth of the mains..

    • @Jchathe
      @Jchathe 3 роки тому +1

      Beautiful description, thank you for the story!

  • @Elie-J-Saoud
    @Elie-J-Saoud 4 роки тому +82

    Genuine Happiness when laughing,, You are true to YourSelf as to us,,
    Take Care Sir

  • @davidbetts9587
    @davidbetts9587 Рік тому +3

    That was brilliant! Loved the simplicity of the build and the excellence of the presenter. Thank you 😊

  • @waynefilkins8394
    @waynefilkins8394 3 роки тому +38

    An improvement to this would be a dome shape on the end, so you can take advantage of the coanda effect to push some more wind to the widest parts of the blades. Also if you had rounded the ends out so they fit around the middle circle part + the dome on the end this would take the most advantage of coanda effect I think

  • @chrisransome2082
    @chrisransome2082 4 роки тому +2

    I'm looking for ideas on self sustaining DIY things people can build at home and for there communities. Decided I wanted to make a wind turbine and this is the first video I clicked on. Just great! Really enjoyed it. Simple, Effective, Thank You!

  • @Jiggledance
    @Jiggledance 3 роки тому +42

    Make like 10 of them using a Rose blade, various sizes down to a Rose Bud, and mount it on a windward wall. Paint them the color of flowers with different color patterns or different pinwheel patterns and colors. If it is too windy sometimes, add shrouds mounted separately that can automatically pop up in high winds and redirect some of the wind. Shape and paint the pop-up shrouds like giant leaves. The blades will still turn but shrouds will protect it from blowing apart. Just use a simple lever that has tension to hold shrouds down at low winds and high winds pry them up. Once wind goes down the shrouds go back in place. You can even design the shrouds to look like pedals that close and cover up the blade assembly.

    • @SohojBanglaQuranmojid
      @SohojBanglaQuranmojid 3 роки тому +3

      Plz make one & let us see. Thanks

    • @НаНа-у7я
      @НаНа-у7я 3 роки тому +1

      Sounds so beautiful!!!!

    • @uthmandeniz
      @uthmandeniz 2 роки тому +1

      It must be a good idea. Like a break system. However, I am having a hard time picturing it. Like Khondker said please make one.

    • @johndenver5029
      @johndenver5029 2 роки тому

      Don't let aunt Ruth go smelling the flowers tho

    • @franknada8235
      @franknada8235 2 роки тому

      Huh?

  • @burgermaster4u2
    @burgermaster4u2 3 роки тому +5

    Robert....thank you so very.very much for taking the time and sharing this build.....would never in a thousand years have thought of using a fan mother to make a wind turbine....so happy.....now I know how it’s done....thank you so much...Dave 👍

  • @travishanson166
    @travishanson166 4 роки тому +9

    My son and I are learning arduino together, this windmill would be perfect for building and testing many things, like charge controller, wind speed indicator, as well as wireless communications to tell us when certain things are happening with the controller or generator etc.
    I have a number of automotive cooling fans, so I really enjoyed the video and the knowledge shared.

    • @princessgreen726
      @princessgreen726 Рік тому

      Hi Travis would like to know if what you are building can power a house and how many appliances

    • @travishanson166
      @travishanson166 Рік тому

      @@princessgreen726 I haven't built anything yet. Eventually I will have solar and wind, with a battery bank. The batteries will power the high demand appliances, wind and solar will charge the batteries when the major appliances don't run (ac/stove etc)

  • @wolfrickelly5148
    @wolfrickelly5148 2 роки тому

    Each of your videos puts me back in shop class as a young man eagerly listening to the teacher give us lessons on mechanical fixes in daily life.

  • @The1Creston
    @The1Creston 4 роки тому +22

    The simplicity exhibited here is fantastic! Thank you for sharing!

  • @mikewetzel1162
    @mikewetzel1162 3 роки тому +464

    Maybe next video could be how to deal with the power it generates and the storage system; if you can.

    • @dammitanothername
      @dammitanothername 3 роки тому +36

      there's a new zealander that also made hydroelectric from a stream. He uses a washing machine motor. on youtube.

    • @craynerd
      @craynerd 3 роки тому +9

      @@dammitanothername can you post a link?

    • @Kowyn
      @Kowyn 3 роки тому +13

      @@craynerd I believe he is talking about Marty T, you can put that into search and find him that way. I think he will have a video up this year on how one is built as I think he's helping a friend built one.

    • @ghockings
      @ghockings 3 роки тому +26

      If the fan is fused with 40A in the car then the max power will not be greater than 40A x 12V = 480 Watts.

    • @mimiseeyou
      @mimiseeyou 3 роки тому +9

      I agree. I’m pretty sharp but this is not my area and electricity is dangerous. It’s a mistake that nature won’t forgive me for lol.

  • @pauldixon3677
    @pauldixon3677 4 роки тому +65

    Rob, I love the idea, simple but very effective. May I recommend using grey soil pipe, the brown is for in ground use only as it does not like UV light, hence, it will fade and eventually crack if used outdoors. The grey will do the same job and can withstand the UV light. Keep up the great ideas.

    • @MasterFloTechnology
      @MasterFloTechnology 4 роки тому +6

      I was going to say the exact same thing. UV light will kill the blades in a year. I would recommend painting with UV reflective paint. The hub also looks like PVC.

    • @Phodis
      @Phodis 4 роки тому +4

      Maybe a light coat of fiberglass to consolidate the entire "fan" together for strength (worried about the screws loosening) and weather protection.

    • @philandhannahslittlefarm1464
      @philandhannahslittlefarm1464 4 роки тому +1

      The blades would be spinning so the UV Ray wouldn't be able to hit them...

    • @thechumpsbeendumped.7797
      @thechumpsbeendumped.7797 4 роки тому +5

      Millennial Homesteaders - Journey Back to Basics 😂

    • @stevenarnold46
      @stevenarnold46 4 роки тому +5

      @@philandhannahslittlefarm1464 Now that is funny!

  • @Kyee71
    @Kyee71 3 роки тому +1

    Marking the tubing with the cross on a bit of paper was genius, I'm enjoying watching your wind generator playlist on a lazy Sunday, very inspirational.

  • @olsonspeed
    @olsonspeed 4 роки тому +7

    I expect the large blades to fatigue the original blades at the hub in a few hours of use. You also need to balance the prop to reduce induced vibration.

  • @antonnym214
    @antonnym214 4 роки тому +1

    Mr. Murray-Smith, I like the way you think! Very handy! You get much faster rotation than I was expecting. I may in fact have to do this myself to power an LED light on my separate garage. All good wishes!

  • @berserkerusmc7613
    @berserkerusmc7613 2 роки тому +4

    That's great! Now I'm looking at my ceiling fan that I'm about to replace and I'm thinking of turning that into a wind generator.
    Man, I'd love to hang out with you in your shop and just brainstorm and put stuff together.
    Thanks for putting this video together. Very informative and inspirational! Cheers!

    • @eternallearner6026
      @eternallearner6026 2 роки тому +1

      Brilliant. And here I am with a new ceiling fan in a box to replace my old kitchen one. Now more excited to get the job done so I can experiment with the old one!

    • @donbrashsux
      @donbrashsux Рік тому

      @@eternallearner6026 did the ceiling fan work

  • @NotThatBob
    @NotThatBob 3 роки тому

    I have a few sheds and chicken coup that I heat and light now and then. Solar does the trick but this is so much cheaper and I have an almost constant breeze here.
    This will be for my patio and outdoor lights. Love this.

  • @DaleOwens1
    @DaleOwens1 4 роки тому +26

    I did this almost exact same thing when i was younger. using a car fan motor. i used different blades though, yours are way bigger and work better.

  • @j11smith
    @j11smith 2 роки тому

    thank you. I am going to build one this week for my off grid home. I have a parts vehicle with the fan already off! super exciting!

  • @JeremyCarlsten
    @JeremyCarlsten 3 роки тому +25

    I would love to see a comparison of this vs a wind generator built on an alternator. watts, voltage, etc.

  • @jlr3636
    @jlr3636 2 роки тому +2

    At about 2:25 what you are marking the lines along the length of the pipe, a extremely easy way to do that is to use a piece of angle iron or aluminum, lay the angle on the pipe so both open edges touch and scribe the line, perfectly straight. Size of the angle doesn’t matter, 1”x1” or 3/4”x2” they all work.

  • @michaelhamilton2738
    @michaelhamilton2738 3 роки тому +20

    Im so happy to have found your channel, it’s truly a hidden gem.
    I love your content and your enthusiasm towards your work.

  • @matthewkleinmann
    @matthewkleinmann 2 роки тому

    Two hints for drafting the lines out for cutting the pipe up. Got these from years of making high powered rockets. Wrap a strip of paper a few inches wide around the perimeter of the pipe, the exact width is not important. Wrap it around once tightly and cut it so it just overlaps and tape it, so you have a band around the pipe. Hold the pipe up in a door jamb and trace a straight line across the paper and cut it. Fold the paper exactly in half and crease it. Do it a second time. Wrap the paper back around the pipe and tape it. Now line one of the creases up in a door jamb and draft out that line. Do the same with the other three. This is pretty common for spacing rocket fins. How much power were you able to get out of it? I am guessing under 50W. Not bad if you can get the fan for free.

  • @shaunhall6834
    @shaunhall6834 3 роки тому +15

    Thank you Robert! I'm definitely going to use this with my off-grid home.

  • @scopex2749
    @scopex2749 3 роки тому

    utterly BRILLIANT! I had to live in a tiny caravan for 10 years with only a petrol genny I could run to charge my battery a couple of these would have been more environmentally friendly AND quiet I am off to the scrappy!! Need to build some sort of charge controller next otherwise plugging that directly to a battery will just make it a FAN again!

  • @jacksobe
    @jacksobe 3 роки тому +98

    I wish I had friends like this.

  • @bobperry2085
    @bobperry2085 2 роки тому +2

    Been going through all your videos from oldest to newest. this is the tech that got me interested in doing so and this is the video that motivated me to fix my youtube to allow me to join a channel for the first time. And now I'm a member :)

  • @semajekrad6922
    @semajekrad6922 4 роки тому +177

    You just got to work on a pivot , a slip ring and a vain to direct it into the wind along with the relevant diodes and such to make it usable to store energy in a battery .
    Go on do part two please.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 роки тому +109

      will do

    • @Xx-xd3zo
      @Xx-xd3zo 4 роки тому +6

      Semaj - I'm thinking a rectifier and a grid tie. :)

    • @geodeaholicm4889
      @geodeaholicm4889 4 роки тому +17

      and naturally you could build your own custom battery &/or capacitor to store the energy. i'd bet you also have the skills/knowlege to build your own inverter for it too.

    • @Barskor1
      @Barskor1 4 роки тому +8

      @@geodeaholicm4889 IRC he said it was a dc motor so dc output?

    • @allenlong1445
      @allenlong1445 4 роки тому +4

      @@ThinkingandTinkering what a cool idea I'd mount it to a caravan to keep the battery toped out ?

  • @mennogravemaker5181
    @mennogravemaker5181 4 роки тому +23

    Great video, thanks Robert. Would be great to see new video of the energy produced, perhaps measure the voltage over a specific load. Seems to me that the fan is build for high rpm so would expect it to be small amount of energy generated in moderate wind.

  • @mateo98100
    @mateo98100 3 роки тому

    What I love about this video is a real man making a real product. Most wouldn't even be able to hold that thing in the wind and if they did they'd probably lose their head. Cool video man

  • @andersgrassman6583
    @andersgrassman6583 3 роки тому +9

    Nice idea. Now, my concern is, that probably the cheapest way to store the power, is using car batteries. But I put four of them in series, when I was 14, to make an arch welding setup. It operated intermittently successfully for perhaps a minute. However, during the high current discharge, the batteries had created very large quantities of hydrogen gas, which I didn't think of. Also, I had severely underestimated how thick the wiring needed to be. (I musn't ever have seen car jumper cables?!) The wires melted and somehow, some small spark was created, igniting the hydrogen gas outside and inside the the car batteries, causing two of of them to violently explode and hurling shattered batteryparts through the air, and presumably also acid. Perhaps luckily, I had my back turned at the explosion.
    In conclusion, I since then carry great respect and awareness of the dangers associated with car batteries. Indeed any high capacity battery. And I feel hesitant to build a huge powerbank with them. It would have to sit in another shack / building away from my house. And then I would still feel I lived close to a minor bomb.,

    • @Thomas_P_aus_M
      @Thomas_P_aus_M 2 роки тому +1

      Nowadays there are LiFePo4 and LTO type batteries. That's a lot safer. Of course, a BMS is used here. And no, they are not really more expensive when you calculate the number of cycles and the service life. (Not to be confused with Li-Ion!)

    • @Inverted.surfer
      @Inverted.surfer Рік тому +1

      Hi there, just a little something I learned while restoring old batteries. The extent of the battery exploding depends on the how much water is in your battery. The more water, the less cavity, and less gas build up.
      Hope this makes sense.... All the best.

  • @Dan0__
    @Dan0__ 3 роки тому +2

    I've made this style blade before for a school project... a little smaller but it works fantastic!
    Inspiring!

  • @ME-qq3gr
    @ME-qq3gr 4 роки тому +18

    Thanks for the video. Nice to hear you got up to 20 volts. What watts or amps did you get from it?

  • @jaberjaber131
    @jaberjaber131 3 роки тому

    Awesome. I heard about a gentleman who makes windmills that are strictly mechanical, he uses wind up flat springs that release their energy through a series of gears ⚙️ that make the turbine spin, he winds up the springs when there’s no wind

  • @peaps
    @peaps 2 роки тому +28

    With respect, volts quoted without amps is meaningless. I can charge a 1 picofarad capacitor to 400 volts but it's gonna do absolutely nothing of any use.

    • @haxboi5492
      @haxboi5492 4 місяці тому +3

      Yup. You can stick up a pointy object in the air and pick up kilovolts of static. Won't do anything tho

  • @andrewchapman9931
    @andrewchapman9931 2 роки тому +2

    The problem with using drainage pipe is UV. Being used underground it will not have the same UV protection as the polymers used in above ground plastics and will breakdown and become brittle which could shatter. Good project overall. :)

  • @scout4locations
    @scout4locations 4 роки тому +7

    I love the way you hide what you're doing and dont explain what you're doing. Best mystery story ever.

    • @InkedinheLLIcon
      @InkedinheLLIcon 4 роки тому +1

      If you watched the whole video and had basic mechanical engineering knowledge you could easily follow his explanation and figure out anything you needed to do.

    • @TheSpektacle
      @TheSpektacle 3 роки тому

      It must be a brushless DC motor to make any voltage/power !

  • @artistlegends1728
    @artistlegends1728 Рік тому

    This Man has this wonderful bundle of genius, generosity and joy. Just brilliant. Thank you.

  • @funkyfender1
    @funkyfender1 3 роки тому +4

    Robert, I wonder how it might work with a vertical drum style turbine? That would offer an omnidirectional presentation towards the wind without the need of slip rings or re-centring springs, wind vane and the need for counter weights and more critical levelling.... which would work well on a sailing boat... thoughts?

    • @offroadflow
      @offroadflow 2 роки тому

      if you get enough torque AND revolutions then any horizontal or vertical blade design works...

  • @creativelenses
    @creativelenses 4 роки тому +10

    Amazing. most importantly your genuine smile makes others happy. thank you so much Sir.

  • @sydneykv
    @sydneykv Рік тому

    Thank you so much for this! I'm about to start a small research project focusing on small-scale wind turbines using common, available parts and your videos are so wonderfully helpful. Cheers!

    • @kimmogensen5390
      @kimmogensen5390 11 місяців тому

      direct drive washing machine and e bike motors (48v 1000w) are the ones that really produce a decent amount of power it has to be worth mounting the thing , on the other hand if one is just after charging 5v electronic devices this kind of blower motor mounted fairly low works okey , let me know if i can help

  • @kaimcloughlin8981
    @kaimcloughlin8981 4 роки тому +10

    Very cool stuff, just curious what sort of wattage you got or what the current was at 20v? Keep up the good work 😃

  • @gammon1183
    @gammon1183 3 роки тому

    This vid was more enthralling than any pod race.
    Most adults have become unable to express delight because they've forgotten how or consider it beneath them.
    Keep the fire burning, subscribed 😎

  • @jasonlawson8619
    @jasonlawson8619 4 роки тому +3

    Great video as usual. How many of those would it take to run a small refrigerator? A ballpark figure would be plenty good if it's not asking too much.

  • @TheSpektacle
    @TheSpektacle 3 роки тому

    Hi Robert, enjoyed it ! Seems, if you got 20 volts, it must be a brushless DC motor. That would really make a simple wind generator. Which auto manufacturers used those on their cars? Nissan? Most use a brushed DC motor, which won't produce power.

  • @neagoecatalin879
    @neagoecatalin879 4 роки тому +8

    Nice concept, compliments! One mention, tough: the tips of the blades are perpendicular to the fan axis and if I'm right, those regions are not generating torque, instead are generating drag, isn't it? Maybe a bit more inclination on the blades would increase the efficiency and also help withstand better a roughly wind? What do you think? Thanks for the knowledge! Appreciated!

  • @pulaknsu
    @pulaknsu 2 роки тому

    Great work 👍👍👍
    QUESTION: Do I have to place the propeller to the opposite direction to the fan? i.e: wind has to hit the DC Motors clock or anti clock direction if the motor been used for Turbine?

  • @jonanderson4280
    @jonanderson4280 4 роки тому +22

    It was satisfying to see such a simple build working so well!

    • @waynefilkins8394
      @waynefilkins8394 3 роки тому +2

      yeah and there's so much improvement to be made to it...this has a lot of promise for a cheap solution. I think I'm going to try to 3d print the blades because I have this crazy strong crazy light weight carbon fiber filament.

    • @theninjascientist689
      @theninjascientist689 2 роки тому

      @@waynefilkins8394 As a fellow 3D printer I'm curious, how'd it go?

    • @manjichromagnon5480
      @manjichromagnon5480 2 роки тому

      No way they are as strong as the pipe

  • @utetrahemicon
    @utetrahemicon 4 роки тому +1

    I've used a drawer with the face edge corner to mark a straight line.
    For this you could clamp a 4' stick on the bench and put the tube against it to draw the straight line.
    Great video.

  • @vincentrobinette1507
    @vincentrobinette1507 4 роки тому +28

    It would be interesting, to see how many short-circuit amps the generator could have produced, by setting the meter to amps, and connecting that across the terminals of the fan motor.(That would give some idea of the available torque of the new blades)

    • @esperago
      @esperago Рік тому +1

      Any idea how many of these would be needed to build a charge station for a Tesla?

    • @poldoford
      @poldoford Рік тому +1

      @@esperago I think at least 100

  • @KevinEllis-Anderson
    @KevinEllis-Anderson 2 роки тому

    This is 100% the most useful video on this subject and I've scoured UA-cam for years

  • @georgekot6377
    @georgekot6377 4 роки тому +24

    I would love to see a follow up video. I know that results would depend on the motor, wind speed etc. but I think it would still be very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 роки тому +12

      will do mate but might not be tomorrow lol

    • @bombdiggitydave3881
      @bombdiggitydave3881 2 роки тому +5

      It has been a year or so. How is the auto radiator fan turbine mod getting on? Any improvements? Longevity? Did you make or store power to powerwall or batteries with it? Please make an update follow up video? Thanks for your ingenuity!

  • @jackwody7774
    @jackwody7774 Рік тому

    Great diy video! If I can suggest doing the wind test with a load, then a more useful power output number would be useful. The voltage by itself doesn't mean much without a load. Great idea on using pipe sections for windmill blades.

  • @ozzesty7314
    @ozzesty7314 4 роки тому +7

    That's brilliant, I was thinking use a car alternator. But the fan motor is so simple.👍

    • @Robc509
      @Robc509 4 роки тому +1

      A car alternator needs over 3500 rpm to produce and I believe it needs a 12v input to make it work in the first place. There are ways of adapting one but you may as well buy the real thing if you're going to those lengths. A ceiling fan motor can work tho with magnets glued around the outer coils. There are videos on UA-cam on how to make them work

  • @markfewtrell2198
    @markfewtrell2198 Рік тому +1

    having seen washing machine motors used i wondered about using the drum fixing vertical blades and driving motor that way!

  • @kreynolds1123
    @kreynolds1123 4 роки тому +9

    Great job. Although the speed at the tip probably exceeds the lift, and are thus probably creating drag. That is why blades made from pvc drain pipe are best tapered to a point and a low pitch cut on the leading edge to still create lift and cause less drag.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 роки тому +4

      Thanks for the tips!

    • @raywharton9425
      @raywharton9425 4 роки тому +2

      @@ThinkingandTinkering You gotta cut your own tips I guess. Lol.
      Sincerely though, Robert, I love your stuff, this is a great video. A very nice and accessible project. This and some Zinc Bro batteries and a fella could have some basic juice for pretty simple.

    • @yougeo
      @yougeo 4 роки тому +1

      thats good info! thanks!

    • @TheRainHarvester
      @TheRainHarvester 4 роки тому +1

      Can you suggest the best link/design for pvc blades?

  • @TheSpektacle
    @TheSpektacle 3 роки тому

    Hey Robert, was that DC fan motor a brushless type, or did it have graphite brushes? I think brushless would be preferred for wind machine use. Which manufacturer used brushless fan motors?

  • @williamcooper2415
    @williamcooper2415 3 роки тому +3

    Be sure to coat the white plastic portion to protect it from the elements. It will also aid it from stress cracking.

  • @TheSpektacle
    @TheSpektacle Рік тому

    Robert, not all cars have a fan motor that will produce power. It must be a brushless type I believe. I found one on a VW, and taking it apart found graphite brushes. It can't produce power. Some (expensive?) cars have a DC brushless fan-motor, but which ones?

  • @jamesharris5158
    @jamesharris5158 4 роки тому +5

    BREAKING NEWS: Man dies in freak accident involving soil pipe travelling at 70 miles per hour!
    Keep up the great work Robert.
    It would be interesting to quantify the difference that installation height makes to the efficiency of a wind turbine and that's an experiment I plan to undertake in the near future.

    • @fusiondensity3287
      @fusiondensity3287 4 роки тому +5

      That would be labeled as a c0vid death

    • @derubersoldatx
      @derubersoldatx 4 роки тому

      the higher the better, there is some wind currents at higher elevation.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 роки тому

      that is awesome mate - keep me in touch will you?

    • @jamesharris5158
      @jamesharris5158 4 роки тому

      @@ThinkingandTinkering Yes, will do.
      My application is for wind power at festivals so height is expensive. I want to know where we get into diminishing returns. I read around the subject a bit, but always you the answer to go as high as possible, but with my curiosity, I want to dig deeper.

    • @DFPercush
      @DFPercush 4 роки тому +2

      @@jamesharris5158 I would tend to think as long as you're above any nearby obstructions like buildings or tents that would be good enough. Above the tree line would be best, but for a portable installation that's kind of a ... _tall_ order.

  • @TheJMBon
    @TheJMBon 3 роки тому +7

    20 volts at how many amps though. You need the amp measurements to calculate watts. The a dc to ac converter to step up the voltage at the expense of amps.

    • @pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN
      @pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN 3 роки тому +2

      Or a DC to DC charge controller to charge a leisure battery. No need for an inverter if everything runs off 12 volts. You're 100% right about the amps produced at said voltage for anything really useful, I was hoping he'd have gave us that info at the end of the video too 👍

    • @rogerpeters1630
      @rogerpeters1630 3 роки тому

      Exactly. Any nominal 12 V solar panel can create +20V open circuit too. The power it's able to generate varies with size of course. Put a load on it and watch the voltage drop. If the load is matched to the power rating of the source the voltage should stay stable at around 13-14 V or so. For example, a solar charge controller ensures that it only puts as much current into the batteries as it can while keeping the PV array voltage at around 14 V, enough to keep current flowing in the right direction.

  • @bob2161
    @bob2161 3 роки тому

    Ok, I get it now. It is a wind powered generator. I clicked on expected a machine that generated wind. I was very keen to learn how a wind generator differed from a fan. In the end, not so much.
    It would be quite easy for me to spend a lot of time in your shop. Great stuff!

  • @LNMBEATS
    @LNMBEATS 4 роки тому +17

    I love your energy you are like my electronics teacher back in highschool haha

  • @simonpackham5780
    @simonpackham5780 3 роки тому

    6:00 Cardboard box blown past in the opposite direction to where the generator is pointed. Awesome!

  • @gwheeler233
    @gwheeler233 4 роки тому +8

    That’s quite some wind! The box in the background adds to the effect.

  • @clarky.
    @clarky. 2 роки тому +1

    I love your videos. Never too long and always simply explained. Thanks for talking the time make these

  • @douglaschell1132
    @douglaschell1132 4 роки тому +9

    what amps could it do. in a fast wind . put windmill on a pole and letts see what power you can get out of it .

    • @sneekmatrix
      @sneekmatrix 4 роки тому

      1.6 gigawatts at 88mph

    • @Steven-gv1ke
      @Steven-gv1ke 4 роки тому

      @@sneekmatrix Did Doc tell you that or Marty?

  • @whileysea
    @whileysea 2 роки тому

    I am a Blue Water Sailor and have always not much money to live on. You are a BLESSING MY FRIEND.

  • @philhode5104
    @philhode5104 3 роки тому

    I'm only into this video by about 2 minutes and I already like the way this chap explains things

  • @levi-lukesmith3504
    @levi-lukesmith3504 4 роки тому +15

    Absolutely Excellent! Finnaly something straight forward that is cost effective. I appreciate this content so much!

    • @raiylynmitchell5892
      @raiylynmitchell5892 4 роки тому +2

      Hi, do you know what wirings he did behind the fan and what he connected it to

    • @levi-lukesmith3504
      @levi-lukesmith3504 4 роки тому +2

      @@raiylynmitchell5892 sorry I have no idea, it's been a while since watching this video. Have a nice day 😊

    • @777Slots
      @777Slots 3 роки тому +1

      Connect an Electronic voltmeter to it and it will tell you what is positive and what’s negative

  • @denispoirier5442
    @denispoirier5442 3 роки тому +1

    Great idea ! I think I'll make one & add a voltage Regulator & a deep cycle battery . How many amps does it put out ?

  • @Dailymailnewz
    @Dailymailnewz 4 роки тому +7

    Excellent, well done. This is indeed really good stuff. Now I won't buy any expensive wind generator. Thank you.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 роки тому +1

      Glad you liked it mate

    • @diekoofford
      @diekoofford 4 роки тому

      @bullsballs you need to be able to apply brakes to it somehow, storms come around quite often

    • @alikhan7903
      @alikhan7903 4 роки тому

      @@ThinkingandTinkering what you did here is no small thing. A graduate like me can see that, it can be made more efficient and also it gives people the idea that they can also make their own blades etc. It is not small thing that you did here... Well done.

    • @alikhan7903
      @alikhan7903 4 роки тому

      @saladdogger You are wrong, I can make this thing ten times more efficient plus this is for confidence too to make your own stuff. His one makes 20 volts when the wind blows, I can make it efficient enough to generate 50 volts or more. Even with 20 volts, it can charge how many things overnight? Many.

  • @Dieseljonnyboy
    @Dieseljonnyboy 4 роки тому +1

    Hi, very cool. Should the motor drive around the opposite way to the original intended rotation? Thanks

  • @DanielJohnson-vr9mw
    @DanielJohnson-vr9mw 4 роки тому +5

    Congrats from Argentina Robert. Your videos are great, full of intetesting stuff.

  • @rogerbarton497
    @rogerbarton497 3 роки тому +1

    Use black or grey soil pipe, they're designed for outdoor use and are resistant to ultra violet. I've seen the brown pipe discolour after being left outside and I suspect it will become brittle, like white non UVP pipe.

  • @rocketpoolpki
    @rocketpoolpki 4 роки тому +35

    just brilliant..it really spun up, this is absolutely a project I'm going to experiment with.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 роки тому +5

      i know it - it was awesome lol - keep me in touch mate

    • @tubthump
      @tubthump 4 роки тому +1

      Brilliant idea. Using this to charge up a 12v leisure battery which could then power 5v devices like phones, speakers etc would be awesome.

    • @Jigaboo123456
      @Jigaboo123456 3 роки тому

      @@ThinkingandTinkering You mention the voltage it produces, but NOT the wattage, or even the rated wattage of the DC motor, which would be the max output achievable IF the device worked perfectly. I'm sure that you know that wattage (volts x amps )is power, not just volts.
      Before wasting time and money making one of these, myself and no doubt many others would really like to know what the practical power we could expect, and if you had just measured the amps after you'd done the volts (or given the motor's rating).
      Could you post this please, I'd like one for my off-grid weekend/holiday shack, but if it was only a few watts, it wouldn't be worth the bother.
      Otherwise, good video, thanks for posting.

  • @32yearveteranshopliftervol70
    @32yearveteranshopliftervol70 4 роки тому

    Good for recharging lithiums for the vibrators and such toys. Probably save you $400-$500 yearly in electricity.
    GREAT VIDEO!!! GREAT JOB!!!!!

  • @omaha2pt
    @omaha2pt 3 роки тому +11

    I'd love to know the amperage readings.

    • @Meikle641
      @Meikle641 3 роки тому +3

      Sadly, he almost never gives useful numbers. Volts *and* amps, etc. At least in previous vids and projects.

    • @buddhistsympathizer1136
      @buddhistsympathizer1136 3 роки тому

      Amperage? You mean the current? (In the UK).
      What he really needs to do is to attach a low resistance load across the output and measure the potential (volts) across it and/or the current (amps) going through it.
      Knowing both current through and the potential across the load (R=V / I) you can then calculate the power (in Watts) being generated (P=V x I).

    • @bingosunnoon9341
      @bingosunnoon9341 3 роки тому

      It's a lot lower than you think.

  • @viewsandreviews180
    @viewsandreviews180 3 роки тому +1

    Good presentation. I would like to suggest a modification of your design; do you think if you attached the hub to something that looked like a barrel which has vertical blades you wouldn’t have be concerned about wind direction or movable generator wire connections?

  • @ElizabethGreene
    @ElizabethGreene 4 роки тому +24

    Perfect for your all your post-apocalyptic power needs.

    • @richardcarew4708
      @richardcarew4708 4 роки тому +5

      Actually the only reason for AC is because we can send it long distance without loss of voltage, through transformers every couple of kilometers... Tesla's benefactor and sponsor JP MORGAN wanted to get even richer... and Edison pushed direct current as safer... it's a lot less energy... and doesn't travel well... it requires local production... within a couple square kilometers... at the turn of the century in 1900 it meant coal fired electric plants... each hectare... prox... that's no longer true... locally made DC is absolutely dandy for household use... even air conditioning here in Arizona... where it is currently about 45° C outside... it's a very low temperature for this time of year... solar radiation is at max around the solstice... and it is sometimes as much as 50°... half way to the boiling point of water
      So I am going to install a cooling tower in my garage.... a tapered tube open at the top... I am going to put a wind powered turbine on top to push air into the tube... with a misting system at the top... its cooling causes air to sink.... and, through the existing air conditioning vents, a 12 volt exhaust fan can draw cool air through the entire house... I am starting with a cardboard tube .. and shellac to create a biodegradable bio plastic... I don't use denatured alcohol for the shellac... I use acetone... it's much more polar and creates a very hard, durable, bio plastic... I add AuPt dust... from volcanic ash... or any stream, creek, river or dry wash... it's absolutely ubiquitous, and not hard to find... it's slightly magnetic... and when you collect the sand from wherever water flows naturally... it can be separated out with a good magnet... it's the only gold stuff that sticks to a magnet... ya can't miss it... dry wet sand... and they separate much more readily... the taper creates a vacuum at the top, but whatever velocity it has is reduced by some factor of pi r² as a function of the diameter... so I will draw cool air through smaller tubes... and the greater pressure in the tapered tube is pulled through at a higher velocity... it's a function of the 2 diameters and the ambient air pressure
      Adding a small amount of AuPt to the plastic creates the double covalent bonds, I think only one double covalent bond... and it crystallizes the paper into a semi metallic crystal, which can be baked at a couple hundred degrees C... it's almost, almost like the first plastic called bakelite.... it's 5.5 on the Moh's scale of hardness... the same as stainless steel.... with my homemade paper... it's actually stronger than steel by a wide margin... because I use silk on the surface to create a smooth... incredibly strong bio plastic... and instead of trying to get rich... I give my ideas away as fast as I can.... the Universe gives back exactly what you put in... and a little bit more... I have no shortage of new ideas... mostly using existing technology

    • @richardcarew4708
      @richardcarew4708 4 роки тому +1

      The use of fossil fuel is the only cause of global warming... and it is not our benevolent government's responsibility to ==>> give us ==>> different fuels... and I don't recommend holding your breath waiting for new fuels through government patents... those DO NOT "encourage new invention and technology"... it's exactly the opposite... it's very very expensive... it should not be done without a lawyer or two or three... and... if it looks like a viable technology... the cost of infrastructure to build whatever it is... usually comes from borrowing money. ... or money with strings attached... like old JP Morgan... and Nikola Tesla... and when you start making money.. they foreclose, or buy you out... and your nice invention... and your business then belongs to the money lenders... it's the same gawddamned money lenders mentioned by another teacher... it's not possible to borrow money from the oligarchs... and maintain a viable business... that's why very very few people get rich... quick or otherwise... it's always the offspring of other rich people who have access to funding without strings... it's a very very inbred group of people... they control all the resources of our lovely Planet... including, and especially, information
      Best bet... ==>> turn off the gawddamned television... it's not accurate information.... and they have controlled our Planet since long before the KT extinction event... I have a couple of credit cards... I generally pay the balance each month... compound daily interest is usary... and, basically, highway robbery .. the robbers are not responsible for your decisions... you are

    • @mr.hostility8970
      @mr.hostility8970 4 роки тому

      @@richardcarew4708 sounds like you have some great info to share. Start a channel! Make some vids!

    • @nicolasuribestanko
      @nicolasuribestanko 6 місяців тому

      @@richardcarew4708 Hey! You've gotta be a chemical engineer of some sort. Me, I studied political science... so I guess I'll just have to buy my wind generator online.

  • @bobdobalina838
    @bobdobalina838 2 роки тому

    Great video. 2 questions, firstly the blades look like they are tapered from base to tip. by how much? Secondly, did not get what you meant by the original blades being twisted and having to offset the three bolts.

  • @sirguyfawkes8702
    @sirguyfawkes8702 4 роки тому +51

    I find eating beans to be the most effective way of generating Wind!

  • @jestork1
    @jestork1 3 роки тому

    Fabulous video. Simple and it does the job.
    I am sticking that in the mental tool box for when I get some time to fool around.
    Now to regulate the voltage.
    Thanks

  • @MSUICEMAN
    @MSUICEMAN 4 роки тому +4

    Question... Is there a DIY voltage regulator/charger we can hook up to this for then connecting to a battery array?

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 роки тому

      loads on the net mate

    • @lazyh-online4839
      @lazyh-online4839 4 роки тому +2

      There's tons of buck/boost or switching regulators of various sizes, voltage and current ratings that would resolve this issue, and many of them pretty cheap for this power level. Otherwise I would suggest learning how switching supplies and controllers work and maybe building something with a tl494 or a uc3843a.

    • @richardlanchester249
      @richardlanchester249 4 роки тому

      Would I be right in thinking you could use a charging regulator sold for use between solar panels and a 'leisure-type' battery, with a similar amperage? Many alternative-power enthusiasts have one or two of those lying around.

  • @NoName-ds5uq
    @NoName-ds5uq 2 роки тому +1

    When you were out here and the wind was blowing stuff across the ground, it looked like a normal September spring(or March Autumn) day here in southern Tasmania! 🤣 We haven’t had too much of that in the last few years though. Things are changing…

  • @lubbock2704
    @lubbock2704 4 роки тому +29

    Dear Robert, Great video as always :). Quick question: as an avid fan of your work I would love to assist. I already support you through your membership program, but is there more I or others who feel the same can do to further aid you?

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 роки тому +13

      If you lived near mate you would be welcome to come in and work with me

    • @lubbock2704
      @lubbock2704 4 роки тому +8

      @@ThinkingandTinkering As lovely as that would be, sadly I'm half a world away in Seattle, Wa. United States :(

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 роки тому +4

      shame mate

  • @reefer2917
    @reefer2917 4 роки тому

    20volts is great ! but at what amperage?? will it put out a constant 5 - 10 amps?? if not it's just a experiment/toy,
    Im curious to know why you thinned the blades?? and also where they bolt onto the original blades of the fan,
    to keep a car battery charged the alternator can put out around a 100amps that is if the car battery is low after starting, much less normally
    If I use a 170ah 12volt deep cycle battery in a camper, I could charge it off the car in 15 minutes? in the morning,
    so is there enough current from this unit to charge a battery overnight?
    I'm very interested because my camper is nearly ready, and I need a power supply for the night time, days ok with solar panels.
    I would love to see you make one from a car alternator! much higher amps can be obtained I suspect....
    great vid thanks for sharing 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😁🍺🍺🍺
    p.s I see below they talk of wind vanes and sliprings etc, I've seen here wind generators with Vertical blades and they don't need sliprings or movement of the generator, the vertical blades work from the wind from ANY direction!

  • @antonia4722
    @antonia4722 4 роки тому +6

    Great video as always Robert! I remember reading somewhere that motors from Exercise Treadmills make excellent wind generators.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  4 роки тому +6

      they do indeed - i wonder - i have a starter motor - they are similar - must look at that - thanks for the idea

    • @lazyh-online4839
      @lazyh-online4839 4 роки тому

      The only work great if you can gear it down to a good enough level, the treadmill is like an alternator and only works best at higher rpm. You'll get some output at lower rpm but you won't be reaching anywhere near the potential of the device and will be wasting a lot of potential power.

    • @bingosunnoon9341
      @bingosunnoon9341 3 роки тому

      You need a really big fan to spin something like that. AND a lot of wind.

  • @jeremiahcompton8306
    @jeremiahcompton8306 7 місяців тому

    Thank you for sharing this. Buying a small camping lot and intend to have a marine battery charging for cell charging and lighting.

  • @Jchathe
    @Jchathe 4 роки тому +6

    You looked like you were having fun! Thank you for posting 🙏💖

  • @uthmandeniz
    @uthmandeniz 2 роки тому

    Very good. Whar about long time exposure to strong wind? Could the blades shatter from fatigue after some time?

  • @carlschmiedeke151
    @carlschmiedeke151 4 роки тому +4

    And yes i absolutely loved the video, & I'd a never thought of using an ol car cooling fan motor, brilliant

  • @davidkatuin4527
    @davidkatuin4527 4 роки тому

    Well , simple and it works. That same design repeatedly tested and the results are that it works. Now how to design a more efficient working model. Maybe start with the blades. Thanks for the vid.