And I think this is what all the world needs right now: "Make energy harvesting as easy as gardening" . Also train people so that there will be as many energy harvesters as gardeners, if not more.
Actually you can harvest energy from the growth of garden in a variety of ways with highest effecient way reported as methane from decompersition. More than twice as much btu than when biomass is dryed and burnt which I think is amazing rather than all that methane contributing to green House emissions which is said to be over 30 % just from cows breathing. Most people think its from the nasty end!
@@theideasman6018 It depends on the size. For smaller devices flat or curved would be almost the same with negligible difference. But if you go big then it's a good idea to get help from aviation people who spend a lifetime trying to find the best wing shape for airplanes.
Thank you!!! Absolutely pump out incredible content. I realized after messing around looking at old videos, that I watched some of your very first videos when they were still new. I was trying to make my own ink for electroplating. Here you are almost a decade later responsible for inspiring me into working myself into quite the amazing position. I appreciate you more than you could know.
@@ThinkingandTinkering sorry for getting too defensive on the other video. I shoulda taken a good breath before that. I've never been in the position, but can feel that it can make you forget all the positive comments and pollute your mind. it quite angered me someone did that to you. I have faith you are strong enough to not let it affect you but a lot of content creators aren't.
I'm excited to see this come together. A 1kW wind turbine that takes very little tooling to make is brilliant and there's no reason almost anyone couldn't have one. Well done, chap.
@@ThinkingandTinkering Are selling its blue. print or easy to understand diagram/ technical wordings?... Hence,any interested viewers can actualized your designs?.. If yes, whats the price and system of payment and your delivery method?... Can you downloaded such design, blueprint via internet?...
Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. To see these ideas coming together into this creation. Fascinating. I'm almost certain this design, concept, and idea you've put together as a wind turbine, will be one I'll be using as my new favorite "very efficient wind turbines design". I think this is amazing. And will be QUITE effective and efficient. The only other thing I'm hoping, is that you use that magnet arrangement that greatly reduced the cogging, while dramatically increasing the flux frequency. I truly think this is amazing Rob.
thank you mate and thank you for posting - tbh I am not sure at the moment what magnet arrangement I am going to use - but I will be thinking about that soon
I love the project/experiment! Curious how many amps x volts (total watts) you were able to get out of that. And whether it wouldn’t have produced more using a standard car alternator?
@@brianevolved2849 he did show it working, twice in fact. The first on top of a car where it put out about 24 volts and again at night lighting a light board. For a out of square warped wooden throw together it shows proof of concept for sure
Excellent, thank you for such a great insight. Only thing I would add - safety glasses/googles when using tools. Tried the chop saw and it works well but small fragments fly off at speed. Other than that I'm nearly complete on my build.
I did something similar with a washer machine barrel by cutting [ shape into the side then folding it inward about 45d. It was intended to be a water wheel but as I was making i had i standing upright outside and saw it being pushed by wind. Also nice that it came attached to a moter and and was perfectly centered already
@ivan schafeldt There is CoSm Cobalt Samarium which are strong like neos, but have higher temps like 250C, unlike normal neos at around 80C. Edit: Its actually Samarium Cobalt. SMCO. My bad😂
Fascinating! One thing about chop saws: the blade can throw a carbide tip; I've had it happen to me. ALWAYS wear safety glasses to protect your eyes. I say this out of total selfishness, because I want you to keep making these videos 🤓
Outstanding! Beautiful design and construction. Also hyper-interesting as all your stuff is. I especially love the use of the rain gutter instead of similar pipe. I was thinking of doing the same thing with 29-inch / .74 meters bicycle wheel. That's the largest "Standard" size wheel or I would have gone bigger, but I am not much of a handyman, so the idea of integrated bearings is attractive for me. All good wishes! I'm going to see the other parts right now!
Do you think the combined centrifugal force and wind loading, will cause the blades to bow and pull the outer discs inwards. maybe a few cross braces will be needed to keep the magnet clearances.
Curve the in coming air in the collector to improve torque. To speed up the air dimple all the wind guiding surfaces like a golf ball and lacquer the surfaces glass smooth. Awesome content. Check out the design of a torque converter for inspiration. Fluid dynamics!
You know, I'd been wondering about what use one could possibly find for the base of a swivel chair ... You see these chairs dumped all the time and it's a shame as the base (and usually the lifting mechanism too) is always perfectly functional (with the exception of a few castor wheels missing). Using it like this is a brilliant idea and will possibly open the way to generating multiple others for their re-use.
I liked the idea, but his plan relies on two almost identical ones, or you get wobble. If you made a more traditional horizontal fan style, you would only need one, and that would be fine. I would suggest using bicycle wheels, as they more are universally found, for this drum style. And for the blades use duct tape (or sheets of linen cut to size) coated in a Resin, moulded over a pipe (protected by cling wrap)... That way you have a reliable and cheaper source of blades.
@@ThinkingandTinkering my brother inlaw has said I can have drums. I have lots and lots of dishwasher motors and drain pumps. Lots of things you could play with mate. They seem to be an abundant supply of freebies
Very nice Robert and impressive. Big improvement in your sound quality too, Love it! Also want to thank you for your book on conductive inks that I got a while back and many videos on the same subject. I finally put your info into practice and made some conductive ink for shielding purposes inside electric guitars using mathylated spirit as carrier and shellac as a binder with graphite powder. Still working on the proportions, got decent results so far. Next, have to build myself the square probe. Thank you very much good Sir. Oh and I love your attitude towards things, great curiosity and excellent understanding of some fundamental electronic principle. I wish my understanding of chemistry was half as good as yours. Cheers from AU and stay well.
mate, that is bloody awesome ! can't wait to see it working, and you didn't accidentally cut your head off once LOL. this is the sort of stuff that inspires people, I don't know why you haven't got over a million subscribers.
@@ThinkingandTinkering .... or you could just fit it to ride on a single ball, bearing the full weight. A dab of grease to hold it in position whilst assembling. KISS!
I thought it was a nice build too when you get it out into real wind I think it's going to surprise you and do better than you thought it would and if you had Neil Demi on there it would really put out some juice can't hardly wait until you get some readings on there looking forward to the next video
Why would it need a thrust bearing? There is only it's weight bearing down, and that isn't much and would be well withing the rating of a standard ball race I'd have thought. Bearings are often tightened to a slight pre-load anyway.
That does look very solid. If there was any consistent kind of wind here in Durban I'd probably be building myself one of those eventually. If your drum is out of square slightly (Which you say it isn't, at 1mm), you might consider putting the magnets in a perpendicular arrangement around the circumference and have your transformer core vertically at the bottom. That way you could use your pen trick to get an exact mounting ring, and it'd probably be more resistant to flexing if that's a problem. One difficulty with that is you'd need to be exact in your mounting instead of relying on the thickness of the magnets. Either way, I really like where this is going.
@drop stix Great idea. Are you talking about making the face flat, or the circumference round? As J W is concerned, I'd worry about flex pulling the circumference inward as the blades bow outwards at speed, increasing the gap to the magnets if they were mounted onto the flat face. If they were mounted around the outside you'd get more consistent, but you'd probably have to modify the transformer core to be concave to take the magnets as close as possible. @@paulmaydaynight9925 Yeah, we hardly get any extreme weather (apart from a bit of heat sometimes). I think it's because we have a pretty consistently hot ocean temperature flowing from up north. Further south there's a lot more wind, where there are two ocean currents nearby of rather different temperatures.
You’re endlessly inventive and I have no idea how you’re so prolific with your videos and ideas! I’m really looking forward to seeing how this one comes together, to see if it’s something I could attempt 👍👍
@@PVflying This Brian Evolved seems to be using some sort of bot. Lots of comments, all same, in this video alone. Try checking some comments with more than two replys if you have time, I did and not sure to report or not with this guy.
Since you want a good, stable, solid system, MY suggestion is to face them where one can drive a piece of all-thread through all 5 spokes of the office chair legs and with a couple of extra nuts, be able to ensure a very strong, rigid, flat, parallel, uniform pair of disks. ADMITTEDLY, since all-thread DOES cost bit of money, if it is going to make the project cost too much, then I can see one leaving it out for that reason, however, just knowing wind the way I do, it seems to me a pretty near-to-being-necessary component. If at some point you find the disks are for some reason failing to maintain their shape in strong wind, you can just take them out, make new pieces, and go on in with the all-thread, but I suppose that until it is clear that you will need it, may as well leave it off. ~( 'w')/ I was GOING to make a comment about weather sealing, but then I saw that you had gone ahead and done so.
I like your threaded bar suggestion - basically we do what we do and it doesn't matter what we do someone somewhere will say something different - some ideas I like some I just ignore - I like this one - cheers
Hey there Robert, amazing work as usual! I would like to add in my 2 cents on VAWT's for this community, it is not meant to be critical of your fantastic work, just to add some more information. So if you go for a vertical axis design, magnetic bearing levitation can reduce the friction losses. Also if a tail and a wind blocker is added, the friction from wind on the return side can be minimized, more energy can be harvested from the same wind space. Also less magnets and coils are needed if gearing or belt drives are used to spin up a smaller disc much faster, rather then placing them around the outside of this large disc. I love your channel and love your making things from garbage approach! Very inspiring! Keep up the good work
the large wheels from an old wheelchair would be a good source for something to attach your blades to that have fairly good sealed ball bearings in the hubs. and since most have plastic rims, you should be able to glue the plastic blades directly to the rims. plus the remainder of the chair has many other parts that are useful like the large caster wheels, the vinyl or cloth seat and back, and tube frame. i got over thirty of them for free from a nursing home that was disposing of chairs that previously belonged to deceased patients that i have made many things from. one of them are folding camp/work stools i made for myself and my friends from the part of the frame the seat is attached to on folding wheelchairs. it has an x joint where it folds together already. i cut feet from the vertical tubing that the back is fastened to with a cut off disk on an angle grinder, and attach them to the u shaped bottom pivots(a source of thin sheet brass for shim stock) with hardware that i removed from the chair. presto! a free and really strong folding stool.
I'm collecting the parts now. Just a bit annoyed one of my last customers throw out some of those swivel chairs. Its looking like a really great project. Thanks for sharing the update.
Hello Robert, er, Rob? Mr. Murray-Smith? New subscriber, first time posting here :). Three things, two of which are too late. 1) I would have placed the chair bases on the outside to help ensure clean airflow through the turbine. (Assuming the attachments were just as easy). 2) I think I would have slotted the little pipe pieces to hold each blade on both sides at the proper angle. 3) Obviously, mounting the magnets at the greatest diameter is the best - but there are several other possibilities that might be interesting. For example, you could use the edge of the disc, either instead, or in addition. But a second, or n more rows of magnets inside the greatest diameter could still be useful. Also, if you get enough magnets and coils in play to cause significant drag, then you could consider a mechanism to change the distance of the coil to the magnet, to keep the speed constant, which may get you the most power out in the long run. Keep up the great work! Thanks!
Rob and cheers mate - nice tips - I did think about the position of the supports quite a bit - I went with inside - but I just guessed it really - cheers
I always wondered what would be a good use for those office chairs. Great idea and great use of what would otherwise be junk. I also like the challenge of a limited budget. I can see how you would have to get creative. Thanks for another great video.
9:05 Smartboard (I don't even know what it is? Is it a kind of electronic paperboard) or paperboard? Can you link the video abot it, please, so I may search for this scrapping material too? Thanks a lot.
Greatly enjoyed. Will look forward to its progress and operation. Blade flex will be interesting to see, hopefully theirs little or nothing. You greatly inspire Robert thank you.
Hey Robert, I have just watched a hydroponic video about a an American guy called Larry Johnson, who is using this style of moving magnets, fixed coil wind generation tech to power his hydroponics system,company name of ezgrow. He's even invented a pcb coil board, just thought you may be interested. 👍
This topic is interesting to a lot of people, but what's needed is to show how to couple this free energy to a household supply and whether meters have to be changed, or perhaps some other alternative of how to use this power. All suggestions welcome.
Dumb question time - IF you could block off the side of the blades that offer counter-force to the blades, would the rotor turn more efficiently? I was thinking of curved shield that rotated with the wind, like a wind vane, that would cover half the blades.
How smal, could that be made and still generate enough power to assist in recharging a 72 volt 32 AH ebike battery? Thinking sort of a radiator type thing put just behind the front forks. What sort of controller/ inverter would be necessary to work with the BMS so as to recharge the battery…might want to add a capacitor to recharge quicker and then route it to the battery. Advice is welcome.
Got one for ya ,if I spin backwards my ac 800watt 48 volt wind turbine it puts out 27 volts on a 24 volt bank of Lifepo4 on a DC hybrid charge controller. Should I put the blades on backwards...Right now I'm using on my sail boat tied off not facing the breeze...Only down fall is you can hear it now...Kinda like a breeze in pine trees... bless won't hurt it right?
Good point, There’s actually a new glue on the market now, well its not new just new to the general public it’s super strength dentists glue that uses uv light to harden so maybe that could be an option for this?
Excellent work! Forgive me for stating the obvious, and for testing its fine, and probably is why you are using it as time is short. But to anyone following this recipe I'd advise against super glue as a permanent solution. It most likely wont hold up well to the elements. Epoxy would be better, but buying cheap, flat, little angle brackets which can be bolted or self tapping screws to the base and the fins would be much more reliable, also giving them a coat of paint so they won't rust👍. If anyone dare calls this a "Toy" I will slap them 🤣👍👍. No doubt in my mind it will have a good, useful output and with a few tweaks here and there truly make it a serious, reliable, affordable, robust piece of tech which will last many many years. Truly well done Sir👍
thank you mate - a quick note about superglue - it is used here in the UK to fix building plastics - has been for the last 30 years or so - so if used on uPVC - which is what I am using here - it will last 25 years or more - epoxy resin won't stick to the plastic but I did like the angles idea - I am glad you like it mate
don't know how old this video is there's no date but i thought i'd throw in a suggestion for mounting the blades and that is rather then just gluing the the blades to the outside of your round pvc mountings cut a slot through each one so you can slide the blades in then glue and pin them, super glue alone can be kind of persnickety especially over time exposed to the elements, the added strength of a mechanical fastener on a large outdoor spinning mass could be advantageous in the long run. i don't know how much a quid is but the even the entry level evolution saw is well over $300 when it's on sale here in the states......
Sorry I'm a bit dumb, I'm not following what exactly I need for the magnets / transformers. Does any have links to examples of things I could buy for the actual energy generation part. The structural part is easy for me. Just the energy size is confusing.
You could also use bicycle wheels, recycled ones, for the two ends. Even for holding the magnets. Saves a lot of work. For the generator part two different size wheels can be used.
In India every bicycle shop, and there are many around, has the facilities to balance the rims, replace broken spokes etc. Finding an abandoned bicycle here is the task! 🙂
Grown up version of Art Attack, quite similar characteristics to Neil Buchanan - love the video, will be watching the series and hopefully following suit on my own one :)
Those smart boards are running around $250.00 each on ebay used. I must say mate, it looks nice and big enough to really make a nice power wind wheel for sure. This should make quite a bit power and if belt driven, you could even mess around with the pulley size to get it even faster. Very nice so far. I'd love to have something this size on some magnetic bearings so that the shaft floats and no friction lost at all. Then it would take very , very little wind to move it.
Hi, thanks this is great. I'm using 200w solar panels on top of my cars roof rack. Though please tell me how I can connect this to my set up to store power. Cheers. 👌
I would suggest using bicycle wheels, as they more are universally found. And for the blades use duct tape (or sheets of linen cut to size) coated in a Resin, moulded over a pipe (protected by cling wrap)... That way you have a reliable and cheaper source of blades.
Don't forget when glueing polymers to first degrease both surfaces and key them with 320 grit, the grit breakers the van der waals polymer bonds and allows the glue to react and cure better, some polymers de-activate glue if this is not done as they have negative surface energy.
I saw the video you made are you admitted that someone said they stopped watching your station because all you made was toys. I'm glad to see you're doing something more substantial. But I really like the other stuff too. What your building now is based off of what you learn from a toy. That is too cool
Now I know you’re the chemist professor, but I was an aeromodeler in my younger years. To my knowledge superglue was good for dry conditions, but it becomes milky and loosens when wet. That’s why we used 2 component epoxy glue when it had to be extremely strong and weather and fuelproof. With glasfiber there were extreme strong bonds possible. Perhaps superglue evolved into weatherproof applications?
Hi Robert, I was going to ask a really dumb question,,, then realised water and electric don’t mix, ie use your type of build, but using it as a water wheel,,, but guess the business end could be extended on a axle way from the water ,,,, couldn’t it ? Keep up the interesting vids , great stuff 👍
You could have used bicycle wheels. Kid's bicycles are often discarded as kids grow (cheaper than fancy chair parts - though I guess if you really had them lying around...). Bearings, rings, already fitted together and prepared to take an axle. Just stick the blades between spokes. Done. Can even attach to a chain to improve the spin. I'm going to make it and see if that works in a few months, when I have my own space.
Again I believe if u add 2 large disks same as the ones u just made that r going to be fixed where u install as many generators on the edges as possible will achieve the maximum we are looking for Great work mr rob
Don't feel bad about "advertising" tools - if they do a great job, by all means let us know!! 😊 If any other viewers here are like me, I take forever to decide on a tool before I even get started on a project, and could use the advice/nudge. I really, really like this theme of setting yourself parameters of a challenge and seeing if you can meet it, i.e. "wind turbine for under £100, can it be done?" It's so valuable to see the process, including (especially?) if things end up not working out - there's so much more to be learned from that than someone just summarizing the perfect steps to be duplicated without thinking. "It's the journey, not the destination." Besides... it's all the more thrilling when we don't know how it will turn out and it DOES work out in the end, there's a euphoria of triumph!! 😄
Awesome video. However, while you were making this I was thinking of something that is very similar to this, which is in every day use. Could you not use one of those spinning shop boards that shops use? Which is similar to those spinning air holes on some vehicles, mostly vans. Just saves time making those out of bottom of chairs and pipes.
hi, when it comes to wind turbines the design turns around the speed of wind available and so the rpm you want to work with, there're charts with different rpms and voltages for the same washing machine motor by changing the wiring of the coils. I think your work as experimental is pretty much needed but to help you carry the weight a feedback from the public to build things or working with other youtubers could do the trick. This wind turbine looks pretty good, the choice of materials is pretty good and I want to see the results, you also could try making molds with 3d printers to pour melted recycled plastics, and so you can make any object of any shape you want for the cheap, you can use an easy design software as sketchup. greetings, ayoze
Bicycle wheels could be used for end sides, they usually well balanced, light weight, have bearings, and could be relatively easy adjusted to run true. Also more common.
Great videos of so many projects However since you actually get so many parts for your projects for free It would be nice if you add information on how much they cost for the rest of us regular people Thanks 👍 Like this project for you costing £100, would possibly cost us £500-£1000
Hello Robert, thank you for so many hugely interesting videos! Can you tell me what happened to all the episodes about the wind turbine (I forget the name, I watched them once or twice last year but now they appear to have been removed from your site, so I will try to describe it) which began as two plywood discs, about 1.5-2m in diameter, sandwiched together with 3 curved air guides in between? There is a hole in the centre for air intake (increased the swept area to beyond the area of the disc) and the air passing through the system exits at the perimeter. You got lots of feedback around improvements which you then applied, eventually doing away with the front disc altogether and shaping the 3 'blades' into the mathematically ideal shape. Are these episodes still available and, if so, where can I find them?
So, more awesome stuff because one jerk's comment. Takes a great man to turn such a negative critic into something so good . You are in for a great challenge but definately creating something usable. Makes one to think about forgetting heavy oil drum savoniuses in mind. Can't wait for more on this project!
And I think this is what all the world needs right now: "Make energy harvesting as easy as gardening" . Also train people so that there will be as many energy harvesters as gardeners, if not more.
100% agree with that mate
Autonomy at first of course....
Actually you can harvest energy from the growth of garden in a variety of ways with highest effecient way reported as methane from decompersition. More than twice as much btu than when biomass is dryed and burnt which I think is amazing rather than all that methane contributing to green House emissions which is said to be over 30 % just from cows breathing. Most people think its from the nasty end!
Do the blades need to be curved. Or is flat ok
@@theideasman6018 It depends on the size. For smaller devices flat or curved would be almost the same with negligible difference. But if you go big then it's a good idea to get help from aviation people who spend a lifetime trying to find the best wing shape for airplanes.
Thank you!!! Absolutely pump out incredible content. I realized after messing around looking at old videos, that I watched some of your very first videos when they were still new. I was trying to make my own ink for electroplating. Here you are almost a decade later responsible for inspiring me into working myself into quite the amazing position. I appreciate you more than you could know.
bless your heart mate and thanks for posting that I enjoyed reading it
@@ThinkingandTinkering sorry for getting too defensive on the other video. I shoulda taken a good breath before that. I've never been in the position, but can feel that it can make you forget all the positive comments and pollute your mind. it quite angered me someone did that to you. I have faith you are strong enough to not let it affect you but a lot of content creators aren't.
I'm excited to see this come together. A 1kW wind turbine that takes very little tooling to make is brilliant and there's no reason almost anyone couldn't have one. Well done, chap.
it's what I am aiming for mate
@@ThinkingandTinkering Are selling its blue. print or easy to understand diagram/ technical wordings?... Hence,any interested viewers can actualized your designs?.. If yes, whats the price and system of payment and your delivery method?... Can you downloaded such design, blueprint via internet?...
I just wanted to say that, I really appreciate what you do. I've learned a lot from you.
Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful.
To see these ideas coming together into this creation.
Fascinating. I'm almost certain this design, concept, and idea you've put together as a wind turbine, will be one I'll be using as my new favorite "very efficient wind turbines design".
I think this is amazing. And will be QUITE effective and efficient.
The only other thing I'm hoping, is that you use that magnet arrangement that greatly reduced the cogging, while dramatically increasing the flux frequency.
I truly think this is amazing Rob.
thank you mate and thank you for posting - tbh I am not sure at the moment what magnet arrangement I am going to use - but I will be thinking about that soon
It would not work .......why did he not show it working ?
I love the project/experiment! Curious how many amps x volts (total watts) you were able to get out of that. And whether it wouldn’t have produced more using a standard car alternator?
That is bloody awesome, the wood version gave you proof of concept so you already know that this will give tremendous results. Well done Rob ☺️
exactly mate - it's why I built the wood one - 2 hours it took and I told me it was worth spending time over this more robust build
It would not work .......why did he not show it working ?
@@brianevolved2849 he did show it working, twice in fact. The first on top of a car where it put out about 24 volts and again at night lighting a light board. For a out of square warped wooden throw together it shows proof of concept for sure
Excellent, thank you for such a great insight. Only thing I would add - safety glasses/googles when using tools. Tried the chop saw and it works well but small fragments fly off at speed. Other than that I'm nearly complete on my build.
I did something similar with a washer machine barrel by cutting [ shape into the side then folding it inward about 45d. It was intended to be a water wheel but as I was making i had i standing upright outside and saw it being pushed by wind. Also nice that it came attached to a moter and and was perfectly centered already
awesome mate
It’d be interesting to put neodymium magnets on one side and ceramic on the other to see the different power outputs, this is a great project!
You don't need neodynium magnets...But, It's up to you...
cheers mate - I am not likely to use neos - they will raise the cost and my earlier experiments tell me they aren't needed - plus they rust!
spot on mate
@@ThinkingandTinkering Yes, I can confirm...Best Regards
@ivan schafeldt There is CoSm Cobalt Samarium which are strong like neos, but have higher temps like 250C, unlike normal neos at around 80C.
Edit: Its actually Samarium Cobalt. SMCO. My bad😂
Genius sir, love the creativity, and great use of the chair base!!
Fascinating! One thing about chop saws: the blade can throw a carbide tip; I've had it happen to me. ALWAYS wear safety glasses to protect your eyes. I say this out of total selfishness, because I want you to keep making these videos 🤓
Outstanding! Beautiful design and construction. Also hyper-interesting as all your stuff is. I especially love the use of the rain gutter instead of similar pipe. I was thinking of doing the same thing with 29-inch / .74 meters bicycle wheel. That's the largest "Standard" size wheel or I would have gone bigger, but I am not much of a handyman, so the idea of integrated bearings is attractive for me. All good wishes! I'm going to see the other parts right now!
Do you think the combined centrifugal force and wind loading, will cause the blades to bow and pull the outer discs inwards. maybe a few cross braces will be needed to keep the magnet clearances.
the chair legs and pipe in the centre are pretty strong mate - I doubt they will pull inwards - it's why I overbuilt that section - but we will see
It would not work .......why did he not show it working ?
dipping into your archive is so rewarding and inspiring!
Just awesome. The world needs this. Lucky with the perfect bearings
for sure mate - I have them laying around for ages now - just luck lol
What an intelligent man, going to watch all 8 parts of this, very inspiring 👍
Robert - you're a legend - I love it and I'm absolutely going to have a go. Keep up the great videos and I love you're style!
Curve the in coming air in the collector to improve torque.
To speed up the air dimple all the wind guiding surfaces like a golf ball and lacquer the surfaces glass smooth.
Awesome content.
Check out the design of a torque converter for inspiration.
Fluid dynamics!
You know, I'd been wondering about what use one could possibly find for the base of a swivel chair ... You see these chairs dumped all the time and it's a shame as the base (and usually the lifting mechanism too) is always perfectly functional (with the exception of a few castor wheels missing). Using it like this is a brilliant idea and will possibly open the way to generating multiple others for their re-use.
I liked the idea, but his plan relies on two almost identical ones, or you get wobble.
If you made a more traditional horizontal fan style, you would only need one, and that would be fine.
I would suggest using bicycle wheels, as they more are universally found, for this drum style.
And for the blades use duct tape (or sheets of linen cut to size) coated in a Resin, moulded over a pipe (protected by cling wrap)... That way you have a reliable and cheaper source of blades.
I've been making and designing wind turbines for 20 years, and that my friend is fricken cool! can't wait to see the volt & amp results in part 2.
oh wow mate - that is a really nice thing to say - thanks for the vote of confidence I am looking forward to it too - cheers
Yeh if you can get 1kw from it. It's going to be awesome. Might have to try powering my summer house with one if it work's
Simply fabulous. Thank you for putting this video together!
What an awesome project. Savonius is my favorite and that thing turns pretty slick.
cheers mate
It would not work .......why did he not show it working ?
I did not know Hanibel Lector had a youtube channel. Great stuff
Thats a bloody awesome build mate. I'm thinking I might build one from cutting down two tumble dryer or washing machine tubs!
I think that would be awesome mate - if I had a couple I would have used them for sure
It would not work .......why did he not show it working ?
@@brianevolved2849 Maybe because its Part 1 of a series 🤔
@@ThinkingandTinkering my brother inlaw has said I can have drums. I have lots and lots of dishwasher motors and drain pumps. Lots of things you could play with mate. They seem to be an abundant supply of freebies
I love this!!! Just great for windy old Newfoundland!
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Very nice Robert and impressive.
Big improvement in your sound quality too, Love it!
Also want to thank you for your book on conductive inks that I got a while back and many videos on the same subject.
I finally put your info into practice and made some conductive ink for shielding purposes inside electric guitars using mathylated spirit as carrier and shellac as a binder with graphite powder. Still working on the proportions, got decent results so far. Next, have to build myself the square probe. Thank you very much good Sir. Oh and I love your attitude towards things, great curiosity and excellent understanding of some fundamental electronic principle. I wish my understanding of chemistry was half as good as yours.
Cheers from AU and stay well.
mate, that is bloody awesome ! can't wait to see it working, and you didn't accidentally cut your head off once LOL. this is the sort of stuff that inspires people, I don't know why you haven't got over a million subscribers.
lol - cheers. mate - and maybe one day lol
When installed with the axes vertically a thrust bearing could be needed. Very nice build Robert.
it will definitely need at least thrust washers mate and thrust bearing would be much better - I have those bearing so I am going with thrust washers
@@ThinkingandTinkering .... or you could just fit it to ride on a single ball, bearing the full weight. A dab of grease to hold it in position whilst assembling. KISS!
I thought it was a nice build too when you get it out into real wind I think it's going to surprise you and do better than you thought it would and if you had Neil Demi on there it would really put out some juice can't hardly wait until you get some readings on there looking forward to the next video
Why would it need a thrust bearing? There is only it's weight bearing down, and that isn't much and would be well withing the rating of a standard ball race I'd have thought. Bearings are often tightened to a slight pre-load anyway.
That does look very solid. If there was any consistent kind of wind here in Durban I'd probably be building myself one of those eventually.
If your drum is out of square slightly (Which you say it isn't, at 1mm), you might consider putting the magnets in a perpendicular arrangement around the circumference and have your transformer core vertically at the bottom. That way you could use your pen trick to get an exact mounting ring, and it'd probably be more resistant to flexing if that's a problem. One difficulty with that is you'd need to be exact in your mounting instead of relying on the thickness of the magnets.
Either way, I really like where this is going.
im surprised that you dont get a lot of wind being the "blackpool' of South Africa ^_~
@drop stix Great idea. Are you talking about making the face flat, or the circumference round? As J W is concerned, I'd worry about flex pulling the circumference inward as the blades bow outwards at speed, increasing the gap to the magnets if they were mounted onto the flat face. If they were mounted around the outside you'd get more consistent, but you'd probably have to modify the transformer core to be concave to take the magnets as close as possible.
@@paulmaydaynight9925 Yeah, we hardly get any extreme weather (apart from a bit of heat sometimes). I think it's because we have a pretty consistently hot ocean temperature flowing from up north. Further south there's a lot more wind, where there are two ocean currents nearby of rather different temperatures.
nice tips mate - cheers
nice one mate - cheers
You’re endlessly inventive and I have no idea how you’re so prolific with your videos and ideas! I’m really looking forward to seeing how this one comes together, to see if it’s something I could attempt 👍👍
cheers mate and it is a pretty easy build!
It would not work .......why did he not show it working ?
@@brianevolved2849 you have to wait till he’s finished building it!
@@PVflying This Brian Evolved seems to be using some sort of bot. Lots of comments, all same, in this video alone. Try checking some comments with more than two replys if you have time, I did and not sure to report or not with this guy.
@@Teknopottu ok thanks. Not that highly evolved then....
Something all of us would love to see how to build.
Now we have to sit and wait for part two.
lol - I do it like serial mate - just to keep you hooked on the channel lol
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Well we are all here and not going anywhere.
It would not work .......why did he not show it working ?
Since you want a good, stable, solid system, MY suggestion is to face them where one can drive a piece of all-thread through all 5 spokes of the office chair legs and with a couple of extra nuts, be able to ensure a very strong, rigid, flat, parallel, uniform pair of disks.
ADMITTEDLY, since all-thread DOES cost bit of money, if it is going to make the project cost too much, then I can see one leaving it out for that reason, however, just knowing wind the way I do, it seems to me a pretty near-to-being-necessary component.
If at some point you find the disks are for some reason failing to maintain their shape in strong wind, you can just take them out, make new pieces, and go on in with the all-thread, but I suppose that until it is clear that you will need it, may as well leave it off. ~( 'w')/
I was GOING to make a comment about weather sealing, but then I saw that you had gone ahead and done so.
I like your threaded bar suggestion - basically we do what we do and it doesn't matter what we do someone somewhere will say something different - some ideas I like some I just ignore - I like this one - cheers
Nice idea!
Hey there Robert, amazing work as usual!
I would like to add in my 2 cents on VAWT's for this community, it is not meant to be critical of your fantastic work, just to add some more information. So if you go for a vertical axis design, magnetic bearing levitation can reduce the friction losses. Also if a tail and a wind blocker is added, the friction from wind on the return side can be minimized, more energy can be harvested from the same wind space. Also less magnets and coils are needed if gearing or belt drives are used to spin up a smaller disc much faster, rather then placing them around the outside of this large disc.
I love your channel and love your making things from garbage approach! Very inspiring! Keep up the good work
nice tips mate - thanks for taking the time to post
It would not work .......why did he not show it working ?
the large wheels from an old wheelchair would be a good source for something to attach your blades to that have fairly good sealed ball bearings in the hubs. and since most have plastic rims, you should be able to glue the plastic blades directly to the rims. plus the remainder of the chair has many other parts that are useful like the large caster wheels, the vinyl or cloth seat and back, and tube frame. i got over thirty of them for free from a nursing home that was disposing of chairs that previously belonged to deceased patients that i have made many things from. one of them are folding camp/work stools i made for myself and my friends from the part of the frame the seat is attached to on folding wheelchairs. it has an x joint where it folds together already. i cut feet from the vertical tubing that the back is fastened to with a cut off disk on an angle grinder, and attach them to the u shaped bottom pivots(a source of thin sheet brass for shim stock) with hardware that i removed from the chair. presto! a free and really strong folding stool.
I'm collecting the parts now. Just a bit annoyed one of my last customers throw out some of those swivel chairs. Its looking like a really great project. Thanks for sharing the update.
Now then! Just brilliant, I can't wait for the next video!!!' I'm so going to use your method!!
Awesome! Thank you!
Hello Robert, er, Rob? Mr. Murray-Smith? New subscriber, first time posting here :). Three things, two of which are too late.
1) I would have placed the chair bases on the outside to help ensure clean airflow through the turbine. (Assuming the attachments were just as easy).
2) I think I would have slotted the little pipe pieces to hold each blade on both sides at the proper angle.
3) Obviously, mounting the magnets at the greatest diameter is the best - but there are several other possibilities that might be interesting. For example, you could use the edge of the disc, either instead, or in addition. But a second, or n more rows of magnets inside the greatest diameter could still be useful. Also, if you get enough magnets and coils in play to cause significant drag, then you could consider a mechanism to change the distance of the coil to the magnet, to keep the speed constant, which may get you the most power out in the long run.
Keep up the great work! Thanks!
Good ideas!
Rob and cheers mate - nice tips - I did think about the position of the supports quite a bit - I went with inside - but I just guessed it really - cheers
It would not work .......why did he not show it working ?
I was thinking of using my roof turbine vent. I got 2 up there to vent the addict. To get more uses out of them > LIKE A WIND GENERATOR
Whirlybirds areI like pinwheels I think it's a far more effective way of capturing wind
@@amalgamie I agree. Any thing can Capture wind.
You are a absolutely genius Sir… i wanted ta offgrid solution for home…..
I always wondered what would be a good use for those office chairs. Great idea and great use of what would otherwise be junk. I also like the challenge of a limited budget. I can see how you would have to get creative. Thanks for another great video.
it's all about creativity lol
9:05 Smartboard (I don't even know what it is? Is it a kind of electronic paperboard) or paperboard?
Can you link the video abot it, please, so I may search for this scrapping material too?
Thanks a lot.
Greatly enjoyed. Will look forward to its progress and operation.
Blade flex will be interesting to see, hopefully theirs little or nothing.
You greatly inspire Robert thank you.
I am looking forward to it too mate lol
Had a go on myself, few problems but going through a testing phase, thanks for videos
Hey Robert, I have just watched a hydroponic video about a an American guy called Larry Johnson, who is using this style of moving magnets, fixed coil wind generation tech to power his hydroponics system,company name of ezgrow. He's even invented a pcb coil board, just thought you may be interested. 👍
This topic is interesting to a lot of people, but what's needed is to show how to couple this free energy to a household supply and whether meters have to be changed, or perhaps some other alternative of how to use this power. All suggestions welcome.
Were did you get the 36 degree requirement for the blades from? Would like to read some papers about the right blade angle.
Dumb question time - IF you could block off the side of the blades that offer counter-force to the blades, would the rotor turn more efficiently? I was thinking of curved shield that rotated with the wind, like a wind vane, that would cover half the blades.
How smal, could that be made and still generate enough power to assist in recharging a 72 volt 32 AH ebike battery? Thinking sort of a radiator type thing put just behind the front forks. What sort of controller/ inverter would be necessary to work with the BMS so as to recharge the battery…might want to add a capacitor to recharge quicker and then route it to the battery. Advice is welcome.
You're a youtube gem Robert! Awesome Video!
Wow, thanks mate
Got one for ya ,if I spin backwards my ac 800watt 48 volt wind turbine it puts out 27 volts on a 24 volt bank of Lifepo4 on a DC hybrid charge controller. Should I put the blades on backwards...Right now I'm using on my sail boat tied off not facing the breeze...Only down fall is you can hear it now...Kinda like a breeze in pine trees... bless won't hurt it right?
Brilliant, looks magnificent...cant wait to see it in action....plenty of wind around now...
for sure mate - cheers
if you know your glues, you can glue everything, most glues don´t take well to temperature and uv however
Good point, There’s actually a new glue on the market now, well its not new just new to the general public it’s super strength dentists glue that uses uv light to harden so maybe that could be an option for this?
Excellent work!
Forgive me for stating the obvious, and for testing its fine, and probably is why you are using it as time is short. But to anyone following this recipe I'd advise against super glue as a permanent solution. It most likely wont hold up well to the elements. Epoxy would be better, but buying cheap, flat, little angle brackets which can be bolted or self tapping screws to the base and the fins would be much more reliable, also giving them a coat of paint so they won't rust👍.
If anyone dare calls this a "Toy" I will slap them 🤣👍👍.
No doubt in my mind it will have a good, useful output and with a few tweaks here and there truly make it a serious, reliable, affordable, robust piece of tech which will last many many years.
Truly well done Sir👍
thank you mate - a quick note about superglue - it is used here in the UK to fix building plastics - has been for the last 30 years or so - so if used on uPVC - which is what I am using here - it will last 25 years or more - epoxy resin won't stick to the plastic but I did like the angles idea - I am glad you like it mate
@@ThinkingandTinkering hmmmm very interesting. In that case I stand corrected. Thankyou for your input!
Is this producing 220volt and 1kw power?
Superb....I'm definitely going to try and attempt this build myself. Cant wait for part 2!
it will probably,ly run to 3 or 4 parts mate
It would not work .......why did he not show it working ?
Excellent, looking forward to see it finished. Hopefully you can put magnets and coils on both sides of the drum.
I won't mate - there is a point of diminishing return and tbh my earlier experiments suggest they aren't needed
Can't wait to see that thing in action. 1KW, now that is worth generating, tea anyone?
lol for sure mate
don't know how old this video is there's no date but i thought i'd throw in a suggestion for mounting the blades and that is rather then just gluing the the blades to the outside of your round pvc mountings cut a slot through each one so you can slide the blades in then glue and pin them, super glue alone can be kind of persnickety especially over time exposed to the elements, the added strength of a mechanical fastener on a large outdoor spinning mass could be advantageous in the long run. i don't know how much a quid is but the even the entry level evolution saw is well over $300 when it's on sale here in the states......
How do you make a hub for a wind turbine? I have everything built but can't seem to get the hub made so the blades are evenly spaced.
Sorry I'm a bit dumb, I'm not following what exactly I need for the magnets / transformers. Does any have links to examples of things I could buy for the actual energy generation part. The structural part is easy for me. Just the energy size is confusing.
Wow that is brilliantly made!
What an amazing job
Great work and great inspiration and information a BIG THANK YOU.
You could also use bicycle wheels, recycled ones, for the two ends. Even for holding the magnets. Saves a lot of work. For the generator part two different size wheels can be used.
it's a nice idea mate but you will have quite a job getting them true
In India every bicycle shop, and there are many around, has the facilities to balance the rims, replace broken spokes etc. Finding an abandoned bicycle here is the task! 🙂
Grown up version of Art Attack, quite similar characteristics to Neil Buchanan - love the video, will be watching the series and hopefully following suit on my own one :)
Those smart boards are running around $250.00 each on ebay used. I must say mate, it looks nice and big enough to really make a nice power wind wheel for sure. This should make quite a bit power and if belt driven, you could even mess around with the pulley size to get it even faster. Very nice so far. I'd love to have something this size on some magnetic bearings so that the shaft floats and no friction lost at all. Then it would take very , very little wind to move it.
very true mate - for this I am likely to be conventional about the bearings - there will be enough that is unconventional lol
Hi, thanks this is great. I'm using 200w solar panels on top of my cars roof rack. Though please tell me how I can connect this to my set up to store power. Cheers. 👌
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I would suggest using bicycle wheels, as they more are universally found.
And for the blades use duct tape (or sheets of linen cut to size) coated in a Resin, moulded over a pipe (protected by cling wrap)... That way you have a reliable and cheaper source of blades.
Don't forget when glueing polymers to first degrease both surfaces and key them with 320 grit, the grit breakers the van der waals polymer bonds and allows the glue to react and cure better, some polymers de-activate glue if this is not done as they have negative surface energy.
How to accurately determine the correct blade angle and blade width in relation to the rotor radius?
That's tremendous bring .5 mm off center!!!! It looks fantastic! Onto video #2 !!!! 🖐🤠👍
I saw the video you made are you admitted that someone said they stopped watching your station because all you made was toys. I'm glad to see you're doing something more substantial. But I really like the other stuff too. What your building now is based off of what you learn from a toy. That is too cool
pretty much mate - which is why I make toys to learn without spending a fortune
Now I know you’re the chemist professor, but I was an aeromodeler in my younger years. To my knowledge superglue was good for dry conditions, but it becomes milky and loosens when wet. That’s why we used 2 component epoxy glue when it had to be extremely strong and weather and fuelproof. With glasfiber there were extreme strong bonds possible. Perhaps superglue evolved into weatherproof applications?
it's used here in the uk for fixing roofline and window frame with a 25-40 year guarantee - so I suppose it must have
Hi Robert, I was going to ask a really dumb question,,, then realised water and electric don’t mix, ie use your type of build, but using it as a water wheel,,, but guess the business end could be extended on a axle way from the water ,,,, couldn’t it ? Keep up the interesting vids , great stuff 👍
You could have used bicycle wheels. Kid's bicycles are often discarded as kids grow (cheaper than fancy chair parts - though I guess if you really had them lying around...). Bearings, rings, already fitted together and prepared to take an axle. Just stick the blades between spokes. Done. Can even attach to a chain to improve the spin. I'm going to make it and see if that works in a few months, when I have my own space.
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I believe if u add 2 large disks same as the ones u just made that r going to be fixed where u install as many generators on the edges as possible will achieve the maximum we are looking for
Great work mr rob
nice one mate
Don't feel bad about "advertising" tools - if they do a great job, by all means let us know!! 😊 If any other viewers here are like me, I take forever to decide on a tool before I even get started on a project, and could use the advice/nudge. I really, really like this theme of setting yourself parameters of a challenge and seeing if you can meet it, i.e. "wind turbine for under £100, can it be done?" It's so valuable to see the process, including (especially?) if things end up not working out - there's so much more to be learned from that than someone just summarizing the perfect steps to be duplicated without thinking. "It's the journey, not the destination." Besides... it's all the more thrilling when we don't know how it will turn out and it DOES work out in the end, there's a euphoria of triumph!! 😄
I have no idea if it will work - so a bit of a commit and if it doesn't - oops lol
If you put the microwave coils on all four sides of the pallet would you get 4x the power?
Kenny Everett diy sketch immediately sprung to mind!!! Lol laughing is hazardous with broken ribs!:)
lol - the man was a genius
Ingenious idea of the chair legs
cheers mate
Awesome video. However, while you were making this I was thinking of something that is very similar to this, which is in every day use. Could you not use one of those spinning shop boards that shops use? Which is similar to those spinning air holes on some vehicles, mostly vans. Just saves time making those out of bottom of chairs and pipes.
I like your descriptions of the talking ,which is not available in other you tube videos .
hi, when it comes to wind turbines the design turns around the speed of wind available and so the rpm you want to work with, there're charts with different rpms and voltages for the same washing machine motor by changing the wiring of the coils. I think your work as experimental is pretty much needed but to help you carry the weight a feedback from the public to build things or working with other youtubers could do the trick. This wind turbine looks pretty good, the choice of materials is pretty good and I want to see the results, you also could try making molds with 3d printers to pour melted recycled plastics, and so you can make any object of any shape you want for the cheap, you can use an easy design software as sketchup.
greetings, ayoze
thanks for the tips mate
Bicycle wheels could be used for end sides, they usually well balanced, light weight, have bearings, and could be relatively easy adjusted to run true. Also more common.
to be honest mate - I didn't find them that easy to true up - or even to join into one unite - I mean not difficult but certainly not as easy as this
Smooth rotation. Nice work Doc. Thanks.
cheers mate
Robert You are genious smart man thanck you for idea and toturial .Great !
How do I take off front grill of a Fiat to Catto van?
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Oh botha... I’ve cut me head off again. This is Monday after all
a bit of superglue and all will be well mate - lol - nothing I can do about Mondays lol
'Tis mearly a flesh wound ;0)
Well done. I saw your Twizy in the background. :-)
Loving this video ... I’m definitely going to copy this 👍
awesome mate - post some videos too? I'd love to see
It would not work .......why did he not show it working ?
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yea alright I shall make a video although I’ve not made many videos but could be fun lol 👍
1/2 mm ! That is pretty awesome. Give yourself a pat on the back.
This knocks the stuffing out of Blue Peter....
I think indeed to do a video on that as it really wasn't my workmanship - just good use of materials really
Now I have to wait for the next part ;-)
A great project so far. I am pretty sure that this will win you a lot of subscribers. Good luck.
Thank you very much mate - and I do it in parts just to keep you hooked lol
I'm a new subscriber due to this very video. Excellent content and presentation!
How many milliamps output from the squirrel cage with cylindrical blades?
sorry mate - no idea
Great videos of so many projects
However since you actually get so many parts for your projects for free
It would be nice if you add information on how much they cost for the rest of us regular people
Thanks 👍
Like this project for you costing £100, would possibly cost us £500-£1000
Hello Robert, thank you for so many hugely interesting videos! Can you tell me what happened to all the episodes about the wind turbine (I forget the name, I watched them once or twice last year but now they appear to have been removed from your site, so I will try to describe it) which began as two plywood discs, about 1.5-2m in diameter, sandwiched together with 3 curved air guides in between? There is a hole in the centre for air intake (increased the swept area to beyond the area of the disc) and the air passing through the system exits at the perimeter. You got lots of feedback around improvements which you then applied, eventually doing away with the front disc altogether and shaping the 3 'blades' into the mathematically ideal shape. Are these episodes still available and, if so, where can I find them?
big evaporation air-conditioner would have something like that i like it very cool rob
So it looks like you could have several coils picking up the energy as it turns. This is a great project!
exactly mate
11:46, looks like the emperor has outgrown his tie fighter
So, more awesome stuff because one jerk's comment. Takes a great man to turn such a negative critic into something so good . You are in for a great challenge but definately creating something usable. Makes one to think about forgetting heavy oil drum savoniuses in mind. Can't wait for more on this project!
I love turning things around lol