Good to hear you're doing well Patrick. I relate to much of this video. I had a great mentor and now that I try to pass on knowledge I question the place of those "secondary resources". At some point I was trying to learn everything online, excessively consuming UA-cam and the like. That being said. You put out valuable content and I enjoyed reading the Bible of treework thanks to you. I applaud your contributions to our online community
Hey Patrick, Unfortunately, there are tree guys out there who shouldn't be doing tree work, and some of those have employees. Something you didn't comment on in the video, is there most likely are people who DON'T have good mentors in person. You have been an excellent mentor to them with your videos. You show them a calm, thoughtful, address the details mindset that is necessary to do tree work safely. And I, for one, found that validating while working for someone who was "GOGOGOGOGO" almost all the time and didn't often break things down the way you do. While the individual techniques vary for various reasons, that mindset is universally valuable.
Tree work is a lifestyle for me. I live and breathe trees daily! Only a practicing arborist ( not certified but been reading the books and watching the videos and doing the work for 6 years now ) Still a novice.. Pruned my first Norway Maple today and I am quite certain it’ll now die. Who would’ve known a Norway Maple doesn’t compartmentalize a proper pruning cut like other maple species do and that they are prone to girdling roots.. I mean, how in the heck does one learn all there is to know in order to perform tree work ?! It’ll take a lifetime. One day at a time.
hey Patrick..I last climbed over 40 years ago and still feel the attraction to climbing.. I can't believe the evolution..and it's folk like you that have helped me build the confidence to recreationally climb again .. I don't have the option of working with gun climbers to learn..too old so it's secondary sources for folk like me .. And it's explanations like yours of the evolution of MRS or comparison of hitches that I find is a great resource Mick should be proud of you Chun up young fella Until next time I'm sorry for the trolls ..
You're not giving yourself enough credit. You've made a valuable and positive impact on thousands, myself included. I'd not be where I am in this trade without you, and I use daily what you've taught me. Thank you for sharing your work and skill set, and as always, Helluva Job. --Dave from Indiana.
Patrick, just because the trolls make more noise doesn't mean they outnumber the people that are here to learn a thing or two. Keep your head up, and we'll look forward to your next video.
appreciate it. I deserve all the criticism that I get, I'm a cowboy in so many ways. It's always easier to focus on the 1 negative comment and disregard the 40 positive ones eh... - Patrick
You have always been one of my go-to channels for advice and tips. Keep your head up brother, nobody thought you were a cocky climber, we could tell with your demeanor.
Exactly. Never got a sense of ego from Patrick. Just someone sharing something in case someone else could benefit from it. And, not only that, i'm sure he also saved a lot of people from injuries because they didn't have a good mentor at the time. Some people should not be doing tree work, and unfortunately, some of these people have employees.
"A group of like minded people dedicated to education and improvement" -- absolutely buddy. It's certainly a resistant group within the larger community, but I think that network exists. And you've succeeded in fostering so much via your media content, the reprinted book, and your entire perspective. At the same time I appreciate your skepticism about this online medium for meaningful and robust education.
I want to say Patrick I've truly enjoyed watching your videos and believe it or not I've learned a lot from you! I appreciate everything you have shared w all of us. Please keep the videos going your an excellent teacher dont let the trolls tell you otherwise.
LOTS of FACTS HERE! Dispite whatever your end-game was originally, you help tons of us & found a way to simplify very technical aspects of this job. I enjoy explaining & demonstrating the strenuous tasks that we perform, but have decided to share my knowledge solely because I have noone to pass it onto. My daughter is far to smart to do this, & I would feel selfish taking it all to the grave. I really appreciate you brother & would like to thank you for all you have done🙏 STAY SAFE
Bro I learned a fair bit from you in the last few years. Now I'm contracting full time. The different knots, especially the friction hitches, I still use today. Learned them from your channel. Self-doubt is usually a sign of knowledge. There are plenty of channels out there putting out bad advice who lack self-doubt.
You and August have been the stapelpoints to becoming a humble tree guy. I use your videos to help new guys learn on off times and appreciate everything you guys that care about the industry grow. Thank you for everything. It's helped at home and on the field.
Hi TreeMuggs. First of all thanks for the update. Back in 2016 I had my first tree related job working with a very old school climber who didn't even use a climbing rope... I knew that wasn't the only way and I wanted to learn the basics so I went back to school at 27yo to learn tree work. I was thirsty for knowledge when I found out about the Educated Climber. The videos, the podcasts, I drank it all. Always did I think of you as a very dedicated humble man. Inspiring was that journey. Now reading the comment section and again see how some of us are simply not paying attention to the possibility of even considering learning a tiny little thing or maybe highlight any positive points but rather can't keep from bashing, trolling, prooving others wrong... All right folks.... Thank you Patrick, it's been a pleasure to consider your knowledge and welcome it into my own experience as "trying to be a better climber". Be well my friend. Work smart, Climb high, Read more. Obviously Ive watched the whole video.
You do yourself a great dis-service. You have been an inspiration and source of information for many over the years so please keep up the great work. You never stop learning and videos like yours are a way of sharing that learning with the rest of the tree cutting community.
Excellent dissertation, I've learned a lot from You Patrick and I've been climbing so the early 80's , soon to be 72 and still learning and climbing! Thanks 🙏
I've always appreciated your technique for sharing skills. I've combined careful real-world work experience with watching a wide range of tree work videos to build up. It's pretty easy to identify the hacks & cowboys stroking their egos over sharing skills and steer clear of them (names withheld!). I think the online community of tree workers is a good place to fast track seeing skills from a variety of workers and getting better. Thanks for taking the time to offer this explanation. Keep making videos.
A huge thanks to you, for all of your contribution, team work commitment, getting Fundamentals of General Tree Work (G.F. Beranek), back into available publications.
I can only say that I subscribed to your channel exactly because of your attitude. I always took "EducatedClimber" exactly as you intended it and was inspired by your attitude towards your work. I'm personally not a tree work guy, just a knot enthusiast, but you honestly gave me so much more understanding and respect for tree work. I never thought I could just go out and do things on my own without practical in-person instruction. I think your perspective is very valuable and your voice is needed.
This was a very humble and honest take on your platform. The diversity of tree types are something I’ve experienced first hand. Moving from NC where the trees are mostly straight spar types to the Midwest which the sprawling trees showed this climber he doesn’t know it all at all. The rare successful climber is the one who indeed educates himself whether it’s books, colleagues, and yes some YT channels. Honorable mentions are your channel, Tree Life (Stihl Born), Zacheus, Really Tall Tree Guy, and Meta. These are not “commercialized” and cover most of the situations encountered and with the diversity of trees throughout. Thanks for the vid Patrick.
Think I watched one of your very first videos when you and your three kids were out passing out flyer for your tree service. And your oldest one footlocking so impressive learned all my knots from you too Patrick. Wish I was off the grid I'm so envious. Wish you and your family well.
I’ve learned so much from your UA-cam channel! I’ve been watching your videos for a few years now, and you have such great content! As arborists and as humans, we’re always learning! I know putting yourself out there on UA-cam can be tough because of some comments, but remember that the Lord has a purpose for us, and don’t let negative people get in your way! I’m sure there are thousands of people who’ve learned from you, and you know that! You’re doing an amazing job, and I truly believe God is using you to bless us. So keep your head up and keep going-there’s so much more ahead for you than you can imagine! Stay strong! 💪🏻 I loved the UA-cam channel Educated Climber! Remember, the true foundation of everything is Jesus Christ!
I miss “Educated Climber”. There are plenty of idiots out there filming themselves blowing big tops out of a tree and have ground guys with no PPE. But you were different. You actually showed stuff that makes a difference in real life situations. I enjoy the knot tying videos. You take everything slow and explain it so it’s understandable. Thank you for your content. Take care and God bless.
Over the last 20 yrs of being in this industry, one thing I've learnt is to always stay humble, every day is a school day and you need to be proud of what you have contributed to this industry. You have helped more people than you could ever imagine, to better themselves and to practice safe conduct in this extremely dangerous work environment. Hold your head high and don't let the egotistical f..kwits get you down. Stay true to yourself and never give up on your dreams. 💚🤙 Your a legend
I have always loved your channel dude. You’ve went above and beyond to put this stuff out there to help everyone level up and maintain a sharp mind in this crazy/amazing trade. I guarantee there more of us out here that appreciate you than otherwise.
Very moving, your openess to where and who you are at this moment in time in your life. How professional/egos and assholes and personal experiences/tie in points from what you’ve learned about yourself through your craft have come together for a re-evaluation about what’s deeply valuable. Whether on the job or in your skin you desire to learn, grow and improve, (Please let me add that you share that commitment to us on UA-cam, and the knowledge about the secondary skill sets are helpful). Im going to walk out in a limb to say that your crossroad with being “broken” by asking “ what do I know and what can I teach?” and then also to be humbled by its weight is very hard. But you didn’t walk away from its wounding blessing. Last, I choked up and couldn’t breathe when you mentioned your nine year old son because whatever he does with his hands, mind and heart you give him now by your example how to be a steadfast man of quality, outwardly by work inwardly by love.
If I watch you Patrick,august,reg cotes,and bucking Billy ray that all I need in life.these people are really genuine and mentors in tree industry.thanks again for your knowledge and advise.
@@TreeMuggs_PatrickM I would put your videos and content above a few of them without hesitation. I love your knot videos, clear, concise, just whats needed, rigging vids, and take downs, always learning something worthwhile from you, and much respect for republishing The Fundamentals of General Tree work too.
Listen Brother… I hear your point. Although from a perspective what you say may be true… you can’t change other people’s perspective and… there entitled to it until they learn better. Who cares who’s the best? You know what you’ve done for me? I’m a novice who tries to feed his family doing this work. No one will teach me, but I love doing the work. And… it’s hard for me to find honest work elsewhere where. If I didn’t have people like you sharing what you know, I’d probably already be dead from trying on my own. I’ve learned so much from all of you guys online who have taken the time. I’m greatful and your time was not waisted with me. I’m am so greatful for your efforts and sharing your skill. Thank you thank you thank you. God bless you and your family. You know in this life, if you can help out one stranger in this life you’ve done something with yourself that’s more than cutting down a tree. Consider youself having helped me. Thanks again Champ! Don’t let them stop you from providing for those of us who don’t have.
Channels like yours opened my eyes to how much there was to learn. I always felt like I needed to see things in person to really pick it up and learn. Make no mistake the educational stuff can not only teach but inspire. I think it’s great to share even tho some have the hubris to grab a saw and just go
I think , all the advice and efforts you put into your channel are greatly appreciated by the vast majority of your viewers , I know I certainly do , but more importantly your son has a Father he can be proud of. Wishing you and your family a long ,happy and fulfilling life.
Whatever happens Pat, just keep the old content up on UA-cam. Videos like your knot tutorials and "the Half-Hitch Keeper" are such great references for me and my guys. As long as people practice the "Slow and Low" principal, they'll be ok in trying out UA-cam techniques in the canopy. Let's also not forget all your hard work with bringing back The Fundamentals. Without you there would be no way to get access to that book, that BIBLE. I really like your podcast too. Not so much the conversations with other arborists, but the topical episodes (like the one about running a small tree service) are amazing. I'd encourage you to get back into that buddy. Thanks for all you share man!
Patrick, I appreciate your humble approach to sharing your experience and knowledge. Great points made throughout this video. I know you don’t need me to say this, but your content has only helped our industry. I’m truly appreciative for the additional work you continually do to make your content available for others. Thanks Muggs!
I’m also one of the idiots who learned from UA-cam and started a business. I would have done it with or without your content…but your content helped me do things better and potentially saved my life. Btw, I also played the game of guess what the tree guy will do before he does it. I got pretty good. I think a lot of success in this business is having a mind for it. You have to be able to ‘see’ what the situation needs and then know how to do it.
Hey Patrick. Well said. And I greatly appreciate the resource that you provide. When I'm training new guys, or discussing a technique with someone with experience, you and Climbing Arborist are my go to places for examples and explanations. As you said, not a primary resource. An excellent secondary resource.
Patrick Like everyone else, I’ve learned a great deal of things from you. One of which, is when to walk away from something. I’m not a pro, but your content has been invaluable to all of us. Thank you for what you’ve done.
Patrick you are spot on I love your teaching techniques and your love of the trade. Professional is a tall order but it simply means always learning every thing you can about your craft. Please keep doing it!
Patrick, I want to thank you for all that you have shared with our community thus far. Your content has always been spot on when I have needed to challenge myself or remember basics while trying to grow a tree service and grow as a climber. Anyone worth their salt will strive to become a proffessional. Like any trade the learing curve is steep. Find out or be found out. I also want to encourage you to continue with making your videos. Non of us know everything. Their is always someone better out there, but your content has mattered. Continue to just do you, and share whatever you feel is important. Those who are worth while will appreciate it more than you know. Cheers my Canook friend:) JC
Dude I loved your channel. You have a great mind, a diligent work ethic, and prowess in your pursuit of knowledge and useful skills. I learned so many useful things that I use all the time from your channel.
You can tell which yt channels are teaching authentic transferable skills and imho you, Dan, Taylor ( treemagineers? ) and Richard Mumford’s are the channels that always resonated with my direction. Thanks for a lot of really excellent skill based content. All the throw line vids were ace. All of the back in the day knots vids for James were super clear. I would still be tying a damn bowline if it wasn’t for the daisy chain hitch vid. The resource base was getting big enough that it was actually becoming hard to find something that was posted 3-4 years prior. The one video I miss quite a lot is your SRT methodology. It was hands down the best interpretation for me. Hats off to Mick and be well seńor! Thanks again as always.
Hay brother, Keep doing what you’re doing. I have learned a lot from you and others on UA-cam. I also read books and watch webinars on line about tree biology to help me understand different species of trees better. Don’t be so hard on yourself. We need people like you to understand the importance of what can , and will happen out there. Love your honesty. I have a full time job , but love tree work. In a way I’m made for this , like August Heinicke says. I have worked with contract climbers that have been in the field for 10 years. You are an educated and experienced climber. You are right, one can not learn just from UA-cam, but can use it as a tool to learn from when lacking and hands-on experience. Thank for your time and knowledge! Cheers brother!
Brother.. I learned almost everything I know from you….. you’re the only guy who talks in depth about techniques used on Deciduous trees… spreading loads between multiple spars… etc All other UA-cam trees guys are great for very basic techniques used on conifers… You actually provided a lot of new ideas that applied to the trees I have in my area… almost entirely Live Oak here….
I always thought you were the most philosophical tree guy, and for good reason. One thing I will add is that you deserve more credit than you are giving yourself. Sure, you can't learn to rig down a tree on UA-cam, but you can still learn a ton of helpful information that can accelerate the on-the-job instruction. I only worked in the tree business for about six months, mostly as a groundie. I did some light climbing and pruning (I still to to rec climb if I can). But, as a groundie, I would go home and watch so many of your videos, on knot-tying and other foundation concepts. It paid off, to say the least.
Thank you Patrick - what an honest and thoughtful video. Your videos have very much followed those mantras and have certainly provided an opportunity for us all to learn. Your apprentices are fortunate to have such a knowledgeable and caring mentor. I am sure your son will really value the archive of resources and memories you have created. Keep up the good work and live long and healthy !
Judging from the comments I'd say you educated a bunch of climbers, myself included. UA-cam University is all about watching video from many different creators, never taking a single person at face value. I apply everything I learn from that pool of people taking it slow and cautious. Too many experienced people don't keep learning when things change. I learn from at least a dozen UA-camrs and try different things. I don't think I've seen a single thing you've shown that was out of line. Keep in mind that many people that are learning are never going to work in the industry, they have enough trees that need to be maintained that they will never pay for or work with an experienced tree guy. Keep up the good work, it is truly appreciated.
Pat- you are too humble. A good thing! A tree man or woman should consider and apply all the knowledge one can possibly accumulate. In such a highly objective and unpredictable work environment, the goal should be to reduce and eliminate risk. Pray and do your best. It’s of the chart generous for you to share your skills and knowledge. Consistently! Thank you so much for everything.
I appreciate you showing your humility and your efforts were not a waste of your time. I have learned quite a bit from your knot and rigging series. I have coworkers who are great at doing but not teaching so thank you for reinforcing.
Sending love from The States Thanks for everything you have contributed towards showing the industry & customer alike that exemplary arborists are among us. Wishing you all the best, you badass Snow Mexican
It's an interesting topic on one hand working with your peers will help you establish a solid foundation as well as a good reference point for the trees you are dealing with so I think you are right that it's absolutely essential. Like someone might see August climb something with woodpecker holes in it and think it's safe to do the same on a totally different species or be afraid to climb anything in decline because they don't have a mentor to help them gouge what is sound and what is questionable. On the other hand it wasn't until youtube became a thing that more knowledge has really been brought to light and with so many climbers these days consuming this additional knowledge I am finding the next generation to be really knowledgeable and more keen to try different things than most of the old school climbers I have worked with. I definitely don't try and "teach" through my channel but maybe documenting my mix of old school and new school will help people to think outside the box and realize that there is a time and place for everything.
As we get older it becomes more natural that we want to share what we've learned over the years. That is good. UA-cam and similar can be a powerful tool to share experiences and information. Sure, a disclaimer is always fine to caution would-be arborists. I always appreciate a professional who isn't afraid to show real work and real methods used. That leaves ME to decide what I can or can't do safely. In my case, I'm no arborist, but I am a person willing to learn how to do things "correctly". So many oppinions on what is correct...in every other aspect of life as well. Tree work is not the most dangerous thing I do, but I do have to be disciplined on how I gain experience. No different than going through college where it's hard to get practical experience at the same time. Anyway, I appreciate your videos whether they are meant to teach or not. I have multiple sources of learning, and your vids have been one of them.
Enjoyed the video. Appreciate your perspective. Watching tree work on UA-cam is both entertaining and educational. Most videos contribute in one way or another....or both. Some show you a good way to do it.....others show you a bad way to do it. It's up to the viewer to glean the positive elements that may help improve their tree work. A positive element may be someone doing something very dangerous and the viewer learning "not the way to go". Positive elements can be easier, safer ways to do something that the viewer can adapt to their tree work "modus operandi". Your videos have always been of real positive value. Showing the right and wrong ways of doing tree work. Very valuable. Your contribution to tree climbing, rigging, etc. have enlightened thousands....I'm sure. So, keep on keeping on. Please.
Patrick, no matter what the trolls say, you sir are simply one of the best people in the game and I hope that you can pat yourself on your back for it! I personally have learned soo much from your videos and augusts, and just a few more! that gave me enough confidence to try to take down a huge old oak tree over 80’ high and 4.5 feet around over my house and then I little by little took it all down by climbing and roping everything down and safely too. I especially liked the daisy chain hitch that I learned from you to! Also I’m 64 and never ever had been in a tree climbing situation before so I’m definitely done with that, but It was definitely a Great adventure and I also never have worked in the tree service industry before. So Thank you for everything and you got me out of it safely!😉😊 God bless you and your family, sorry about your loss of your Dad 🥺
For me, you are one of the UA-camrs who are identical. I'm often happy when new videos from you come out. We often work in small teams and don't always have the opportunity to learn from better climber and travel around the world is difficult. That's why social media is an extremely good basis for sharing, deepening and expanding our knowledge. thx for sharing your thoughts and knowledge 🙏
Your interviews with different arborists helped open my eyes to the broader world of arboriculture, and helped me to seek out good information. Otherwise I would have been stuck in a very limited circle for learning. Thanks for the work you put in to creating good content.
Humility is a good thing, but you are right. On the job training is by far the best way to learn. The biggest reason for working with someone who is experienced is to understand what you don’t know. In climbing as well as many other industries that can kill you.
Hey Patrick, I found your channel and started watching your content and listening to your podcast roughly 6 years ago. Before that I was trained by a rough crew of guys who only knew what they knew, as you put it. I just want to encourage you and say that your videos gave me confidence and courage to apply critical thinking to my climbing and rigging. I pass on a lot of what I've learned from you to people who I've trained. In this industry it's hard to find people passionate about bettering themselves and learning all they can, thank you all of your content. I'm still keeping an eye out for future videos!
Patrick, I'm sure that you are expecting this, so I'm just going to state it: I (speaking on behalf of me alone) have learned to do tree work at the University of UA-cam. I have learned much from you. I will state that, as in EVERYTHING else, sensible people will always be sensible people. I am happy for you and your social media presence.
Hi Patrick. I went through some formal training in 2020 and 2021 and found your videos really helpful and supported what I had been formally taught (in the UK). I'm only a part-timer and your videos are great reminders and really helpful. Tree work is so varied that you'll never know it all. Even when you get to the stage where you see so much which is a repeat of previous jobs, there is always the potential for something to appear which will catch you out. A minority of different opinion may come from people who use different equipment. However, I think you are right, most of the good guys aren't on UA-cam but you are an exception! A humble, open, sharing, good guy wanting to do a good job and help others do the same. Keep up the good work, stay professional and don't let the whinging party-poopers frustrate you. Small jobs are indeed a frustration!
I must be one of the exceptions, I tried to get a job with several tree companies and no one hired me, I learned everything from online, from you and several others on UA-cam, and since I have worked for 5 different tree companies as a contract climber, which 2 weeks were spent at the White House. I refuse to quit learning and being humble about it, so many Thanks for all you have shared, because whenever I go and climb for people, many don’t even know a running bowline. God bless Treemugs.
getting better at what your doing is realizing how little you know about what your doing, your son will have the pleasure to always being able to see his dad in action. something i envy him.
Wow what an incredible humbling experience to share . You’re an exceptional inspiration to many of us whom use this platform as a source of reference.. Thanks for being an amazing human being Joe
Hey Patrick, I have a great deal of respect for you, you’re a great teacher. I’ve watched your videos for 3 or 4 years now and I’ve learned so much. I work full time as a mechanic and tree work for me is a hobby, I just removed an elm on my property, my first real tree job. Your care and dedication to this channel has taught me and so many others so much. Thank you for taking the time to create your channel and for sharing your knowledge, keep doing it your way Pat, all the best. - Clayton
Patrick - keep the content coming! You are one of my favorite Secondary Sources! What you say makes a lot of sense, but make no mistake you have positively educated thousands of people. Sure they need to go work in the real world as their primary source, but you and others make great off hours study material.
I started climbing trees about two years ago, everything I learned was online or repelling with a swat team in my younger days because I had no other way of learning, it gave me the basics which I depended on to stay safe and alive , I’m always learning or relearning what n how to do it, I never ever take anything for granted nor do I cut corners, I only except small to medium size jobs here locally to not only make a little money but to help out my elderly neighbors who on fixed incomes really can’t afford the big companies, I would have never attempted this without yours or other guys information on this trade , totally respect and appreciate you and others out there giving guidance or info on the trade
Bro you helped me alot transitioning into newer climbing styles. I've cut timber for over 20 years straight 3rd generation climber and logger on different sides. So just know you did helo someone
I leaned the trade through watching hundreds of hours of many Pro Arborists on UA-cam for the first 3 years, taking on small projects and progressively working my way up. Then was able to get my aboriculture qualification which finished at year 5, and now I'm at 7 years, and I'm in no way the best climber or the most knowledgeable, but I am a competent climber. I did not have the blessing of having a real life mentor, however, I did have God leading me and protecting me in this venture. I found that being a climber is a calling, not a job, and I will continue to do the work until the Lord tells me otherwise. May God bless all those who have been given this calling. Climb safe, and be humble, tree work is very dangerous
Patrick, I’ve thoroughly enjoyed the content you have created. It has helped me to learn new methods and techniques that have saved me and my company time, money and effort. For that I am forever grateful. Others may have similar or the same content and yet the way you deliver it is what keeps me showing up. “Tree work is full of egos and assholes.” …part of the reason this method makes good sense. The “idiots” are also people who think since I saw someone do it on UA-cam I can copy and paste that method anywhere. I appreciate what you do what you have done and what you will continue to do for folks like me who want to learn from folks like you. I’m sorry that you’ve been through such a difficult time and I’m glad to see you in better spirits It seems.
I liked your manner; and I learned a lot from your videos. I am retired, and never worked in tree climbing for anyone. I watched videos, read, and learned on my own. I have greatly enjoyed climbing and working on trees on my property. I am also very careful and use all reasonable safety measures. I started nearly three years ago, and have learned a lot. My main problem is my age; but I do the best I can. I am now 74. I know, it sounds crazy. My wife has faith in my safe practices, and has just learned to accept that I enjoy the climbing. So thanks for your info and example, and all of the others that I have learned from. I could not have gotten through the equipment selection and use so quickly if I had not had this resource.
I’ve learned most of what I know from your UA-cam videos(and August and Reg) and from the books you’ve recommended from Jeff Jepson to Gerry Beranek. I’ve made a decent living so far and lived to tell the tale. My brother and I started a tree service later in life (mid 30’s). With six kids I couldn’t afford to work for someone else. By God’s grace and your videos and book recommendations we have figured it out so far. We’ve gone from knowing nothing and topping trees from a 30’ bucket truck to actually pruning trees and using modern climbing techniques and constantly striving to learn more and do better for our customers and their trees. I agree that learning first hand from a master would be ideal but oftentimes in this world it doesn’t work out and I’m thankful for resources such as your videos for those us with less than ideal situations. Don’t sell yourself or what you’ve been doing the last few years short. I’m a believer in educated climbers. Even self educated ones.
I don’t normally comment on UA-cam videos, but MY reasons for watching, are for inspiration, and getting exited, about something new. No one expects to be proficient at a new endeavor, by watching a screen. Inspired, yes, capable, no. Ok, unless you really can’t get that plastic trim, off of your Mazda. That, UA-cam can can make you feel like a hero!
Every person has a contribution to the industry. Sharing our knowledge and perspective to others in any form is what we all strive for. Keep putting out the quality content. No need to be an expert to share knowledge.
Patrick, I want to say that I have a lot of respect for you and have learned a ton from your content. But I tend to disagree with some of what you said in this video for a few reasons. Pretty much everything that I have learned about tree work has been from UA-cam and I am a solo business owner/operator. In many ways UA-cam is a better way to learn tree work than working for a local tree company - if you treat it as an educational tool rather than entertainment. Between you, Climbing Arborist, August Hunicke and the like I have been able to synthesize so many different perspectives and techniques, whereas if I worked for a local company for 20 years I would only be able to obtain as much information as the owner of the company had - and as his employee I would assume he is doing the work correctly and safely, when in fact it may not be. UA-cam allows you to readily see things like tree fails, barber chairs or other rare but potentially catastrophic events happen, when it may take years if ever to see in real life while working for a local tree company. I think for the right person, someone who is dedicated to perfecting their craft and a self starter UA-cam can be an extremely valuable resource. But for many it is used as purely entertainment. But I am also biased in this opinion because I know no other option - I never really worked for a tree company other than my own. But anyways thank you for your great content I really enjoy learning from you!
I went on a mission trip some years ago to help build a church. While there, I met a guy and we talked in depth about what we did. I had been doing tree work for 24 years at the time. He was intrigued by the idea. When he got back home, he bought some gear and set out to try it. He wound up hurt very badly. I no longer discuss tree work with folks who don’t already have some familiarity with it.
I learned tree work from youtube and books. I used multiple sources. I studied and learned for 2 years before actually trying to do anything in a tree. But when I was ready, it was basically second nature for me. I still have alot to learn. But I've got the basics down. Your channel was one of the ones that helped me immensely. And I appreciate the time and dedication you put into your videos.
That was a very heartfelt message. A little about myself: I am an old time climber, starting in the days of hemp climbing rope, Homelite and Maculoch saws, and tautlne hitches. We had an expression back then - tree work attracts the best and worst of them. Still holds today. Don’t beat yourself up about the trolls, idiots, and naysayers. You are a good teacher, and rarely let ego enter into your videos. I agree about learning by actually doing, but my mentors, maybe like yours, were not the most open minded and cutting edge. My advice would be to from here on out, create content for yourself, your crew, and your son. You will know if it is “true” and worthwhile. Save all these videos in a format that your son will have access to. Create a legacy. I had a partner, in another business, who was Jewish. I asked him once, “why do Jews place so much emphasis on education”. His response was - “ because it’s the one thing you can take with you in the motor the night”. Skills endure, everything else is fleeting. Thanks for everything you’ve shared.
Man, your channel inspired me to get back into tree climbing. I don't have a desire to get into tree work, but I love watching content about it. In summary, ignore the trolls.
I can tell by your comment whether or not you bothered to watch to the end. Thanks for being here. - Patrick
Good to hear you're doing well Patrick. I relate to much of this video. I had a great mentor and now that I try to pass on knowledge I question the place of those "secondary resources". At some point I was trying to learn everything online, excessively consuming UA-cam and the like. That being said. You put out valuable content and I enjoyed reading the Bible of treework thanks to you. I applaud your contributions to our online community
@@jarnoztux welll said.
Hey Patrick,
Unfortunately, there are tree guys out there who shouldn't be doing tree work, and some of those have employees.
Something you didn't comment on in the video, is there most likely are people who DON'T have good mentors in person. You have been an excellent mentor to them with your videos. You show them a calm, thoughtful, address the details mindset that is necessary to do tree work safely.
And I, for one, found that validating while working for someone who was "GOGOGOGOGO" almost all the time and didn't often break things down the way you do.
While the individual techniques vary for various reasons, that mindset is universally valuable.
Tree work is a lifestyle for me. I live and breathe trees daily! Only a practicing arborist ( not certified but been reading the books and watching the videos and doing the work for 6 years now ) Still a novice.. Pruned my first Norway Maple today and I am quite certain it’ll now die. Who would’ve known a Norway Maple doesn’t compartmentalize a proper pruning cut like other maple species do and that they are prone to girdling roots.. I mean, how in the heck does one learn all there is to know in order to perform tree work ?! It’ll take a lifetime. One day at a time.
hey Patrick..I last climbed over 40 years ago and still feel the attraction to climbing.. I can't believe the evolution..and it's folk like you that have helped me build the confidence to recreationally climb again .. I don't have the option of working with gun climbers to learn..too old
so it's secondary sources for folk like me ..
And it's explanations like yours of the evolution of MRS or comparison of hitches that I find is a great resource
Mick should be proud of you
Chun up young fella
Until next time
I'm sorry for the trolls ..
You're not giving yourself enough credit. You've made a valuable and positive impact on thousands, myself included. I'd not be where I am in this trade without you, and I use daily what you've taught me. Thank you for sharing your work and skill set, and as always, Helluva Job. --Dave from Indiana.
appreciate it Dave, thank you - Patrick
Patrick, just because the trolls make more noise doesn't mean they outnumber the people that are here to learn a thing or two. Keep your head up, and we'll look forward to your next video.
appreciate it. I deserve all the criticism that I get, I'm a cowboy in so many ways. It's always easier to focus on the 1 negative comment and disregard the 40 positive ones eh... - Patrick
You have always been one of my go-to channels for advice and tips. Keep your head up brother, nobody thought you were a cocky climber, we could tell with your demeanor.
Exactly. Never got a sense of ego from Patrick. Just someone sharing something in case someone else could benefit from it. And, not only that, i'm sure he also saved a lot of people from injuries because they didn't have a good mentor at the time. Some people should not be doing tree work, and unfortunately, some of these people have employees.
appreciate it - Patrick
"A group of like minded people dedicated to education and improvement" -- absolutely buddy. It's certainly a resistant group within the larger community, but I think that network exists. And you've succeeded in fostering so much via your media content, the reprinted book, and your entire perspective. At the same time I appreciate your skepticism about this online medium for meaningful and robust education.
appreciate it Spencer, I really do... - Patrick
I want to say Patrick I've truly enjoyed watching your videos and believe it or not I've learned a lot from you! I appreciate everything you have shared w all of us. Please keep the videos going your an excellent teacher dont let the trolls tell you otherwise.
appreciate it, videos will continue, thanks for being here... - Patrick
LOTS of FACTS HERE! Dispite whatever your end-game was originally, you help tons of us & found a way to simplify very technical aspects of this job.
I enjoy explaining & demonstrating the strenuous tasks that we perform, but have decided to share my knowledge solely because I have noone to pass it onto. My daughter is far to smart to do this, & I would feel selfish taking it all to the grave. I really appreciate you brother & would like to thank you for all you have done🙏
STAY SAFE
Bro I learned a fair bit from you in the last few years. Now I'm contracting full time. The different knots, especially the friction hitches, I still use today. Learned them from your channel. Self-doubt is usually a sign of knowledge. There are plenty of channels out there putting out bad advice who lack self-doubt.
the more you learn, the more you see how much more there still is to learn...
You and August have been the stapelpoints to becoming a humble tree guy. I use your videos to help new guys learn on off times and appreciate everything you guys that care about the industry grow. Thank you for everything. It's helped at home and on the field.
Hi TreeMuggs. First of all thanks for the update.
Back in 2016 I had my first tree related job working with a very old school climber who didn't even use a climbing rope... I knew that wasn't the only way and I wanted to learn the basics so I went back to school at 27yo to learn tree work.
I was thirsty for knowledge when I found out about the Educated Climber. The videos, the podcasts, I drank it all.
Always did I think of you as a very dedicated humble man. Inspiring was that journey.
Now reading the comment section and again see how some of us are simply not paying attention to the possibility of even considering learning a tiny little thing or maybe highlight any positive points but rather can't keep from bashing, trolling, prooving others wrong...
All right folks....
Thank you Patrick, it's been a pleasure to consider your knowledge and welcome it into my own experience as "trying to be a better climber".
Be well my friend.
Work smart, Climb high, Read more.
Obviously Ive watched the whole video.
really appreciate it, thanks for being here - Patrick
You and August Hunicke have always been my go to for the past 5 years. Love you guys.
You do yourself a great dis-service. You have been an inspiration and source of information for many over the years so please keep up the great work. You never stop learning and videos like yours are a way of sharing that learning with the rest of the tree cutting community.
Excellent dissertation, I've learned a lot from You Patrick and I've been climbing so the early 80's , soon to be 72 and still learning and climbing! Thanks 🙏
I sure hope to still be climbing into my 70's, good for you, thanks for being here - Patrick
You have helped me out personally a lot. Thanks for all the work you have done here sir.
I've always appreciated your technique for sharing skills. I've combined careful real-world work experience with watching a wide range of tree work videos to build up. It's pretty easy to identify the hacks & cowboys stroking their egos over sharing skills and steer clear of them (names withheld!). I think the online community of tree workers is a good place to fast track seeing skills from a variety of workers and getting better. Thanks for taking the time to offer this explanation. Keep making videos.
A huge thanks to you, for all of your contribution, team work commitment, getting Fundamentals of General Tree Work (G.F. Beranek), back into available publications.
I can only say that I subscribed to your channel exactly because of your attitude. I always took "EducatedClimber" exactly as you intended it and was inspired by your attitude towards your work.
I'm personally not a tree work guy, just a knot enthusiast, but you honestly gave me so much more understanding and respect for tree work. I never thought I could just go out and do things on my own without practical in-person instruction.
I think your perspective is very valuable and your voice is needed.
This was a very humble and honest take on your platform. The diversity of tree types are something I’ve experienced first hand. Moving from NC where the trees are mostly straight spar types to the Midwest which the sprawling trees showed this climber he doesn’t know it all at all. The rare successful climber is the one who indeed educates himself whether it’s books, colleagues, and yes some YT channels. Honorable mentions are your channel, Tree Life (Stihl Born), Zacheus, Really Tall Tree Guy, and Meta. These are not “commercialized” and cover most of the situations encountered and with the diversity of trees throughout. Thanks for the vid Patrick.
Think I watched one of your very first videos when you and your three kids were out passing out flyer for your tree service. And your oldest one footlocking so impressive learned all my knots from you too Patrick. Wish I was off the grid I'm so envious. Wish you and your family well.
I’ve learned so much from your UA-cam channel! I’ve been watching your videos for a few years now, and you have such great content! As arborists and as humans, we’re always learning! I know putting yourself out there on UA-cam can be tough because of some comments, but remember that the Lord has a purpose for us, and don’t let negative people get in your way! I’m sure there are thousands of people who’ve learned from you, and you know that! You’re doing an amazing job, and I truly believe God is using you to bless us. So keep your head up and keep going-there’s so much more ahead for you than you can imagine! Stay strong! 💪🏻 I loved the UA-cam channel Educated Climber! Remember, the true foundation of everything is Jesus Christ!
I miss “Educated Climber”. There are plenty of idiots out there filming themselves blowing big tops out of a tree and have ground guys with no PPE. But you were different. You actually showed stuff that makes a difference in real life situations. I enjoy the knot tying videos. You take everything slow and explain it so it’s understandable. Thank you for your content. Take care and God bless.
I'll keep putting out videos, appreciate the comment... - Patrick
Over the last 20 yrs of being in this industry, one thing I've learnt is to always stay humble, every day is a school day and you need to be proud of what you have contributed to this industry. You have helped more people than you could ever imagine, to better themselves and to practice safe conduct in this extremely dangerous work environment.
Hold your head high and don't let the egotistical f..kwits get you down. Stay true to yourself and never give up on your dreams. 💚🤙 Your a legend
I have always loved your channel dude. You’ve went above and beyond to put this stuff out there to help everyone level up and maintain a sharp mind in this crazy/amazing trade. I guarantee there more of us out here that appreciate you than otherwise.
Very moving, your openess to where and who you are at this moment in time in your life. How professional/egos and assholes and personal experiences/tie in points from what you’ve learned about yourself through your craft have come together for a re-evaluation about what’s deeply valuable. Whether on the job or in your skin you desire to learn, grow and improve, (Please let me add that you share that commitment to us on UA-cam, and the knowledge about the secondary skill sets are helpful). Im going to walk out in a limb to say that your crossroad with being “broken” by asking “ what do I know and what can I teach?” and then also to be humbled by its weight is very hard. But you didn’t walk away from its wounding blessing.
Last, I choked up and couldn’t breathe when you mentioned your nine year old son because whatever he does with his hands, mind and heart you give him now by your example how to be a steadfast man of quality, outwardly by work inwardly by love.
Thanks for the resources Patrick. You're doing a good material in line. Don't let it down. Big hug from Spain
I've definitely learned a few things from you. Thank you.
If I watch you Patrick,august,reg cotes,and bucking Billy ray that all I need in life.these people are really genuine and mentors in tree industry.thanks again for your knowledge and advise.
I'm not in their league, but I appreciate the support. thanks for being here... - Patrick
you are definitely in their league @@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@@TreeMuggs_PatrickM I would put your videos and content above a few of them without hesitation. I love your knot videos, clear, concise, just whats needed, rigging vids, and take downs, always learning something worthwhile from you, and much respect for republishing The Fundamentals of General Tree work too.
Listen Brother… I hear your point. Although from a perspective what you say may be true… you can’t change other people’s perspective and… there entitled to it until they learn better. Who cares who’s the best? You know what you’ve done for me? I’m a novice who tries to feed his family doing this work. No one will teach me, but I love doing the work. And… it’s hard for me to find honest work elsewhere where. If I didn’t have people like you sharing what you know, I’d probably already be dead from trying on my own. I’ve learned so much from all of you guys online who have taken the time. I’m greatful and your time was not waisted with me. I’m am so greatful for your efforts and sharing your skill. Thank you thank you thank you. God bless you and your family. You know in this life, if you can help out one stranger in this life you’ve done something with yourself that’s more than cutting down a tree. Consider youself having helped me. Thanks again Champ! Don’t let them stop you from providing for those of us who don’t have.
Channels like yours opened my eyes to how much there was to learn. I always felt like I needed to see things in person to really pick it up and learn. Make no mistake the educational stuff can not only teach but inspire. I think it’s great to share even tho some have the hubris to grab a saw and just go
I think , all the advice and efforts you put into your channel are greatly appreciated by the vast majority of your viewers , I know I certainly do , but more importantly your son has a Father he can be proud of. Wishing you and your family a long ,happy and fulfilling life.
What you say makes perfect sense. We can't learn to swim without getting in the water. And hopefully with an experienced teacher.
Please keep your head up Patrick .
Don’t give up on hater’s people.
I've learned a lot from you! Thank you. keep on keeping on
Whatever happens Pat, just keep the old content up on UA-cam. Videos like your knot tutorials and "the Half-Hitch Keeper" are such great references for me and my guys. As long as people practice the "Slow and Low" principal, they'll be ok in trying out UA-cam techniques in the canopy. Let's also not forget all your hard work with bringing back The Fundamentals. Without you there would be no way to get access to that book, that BIBLE. I really like your podcast too. Not so much the conversations with other arborists, but the topical episodes (like the one about running a small tree service) are amazing. I'd encourage you to get back into that buddy.
Thanks for all you share man!
Patrick, I appreciate your humble approach to sharing your experience and knowledge. Great points made throughout this video. I know you don’t need me to say this, but your content has only helped our industry. I’m truly appreciative for the additional work you continually do to make your content available for others. Thanks Muggs!
First and foremost, I think you did create that movement Patrick. Certainly was beneficial to so so many. 🤟👍👌
I’m also one of the idiots who learned from UA-cam and started a business. I would have done it with or without your content…but your content helped me do things better and potentially saved my life.
Btw, I also played the game of guess what the tree guy will do before he does it. I got pretty good.
I think a lot of success in this business is having a mind for it. You have to be able to ‘see’ what the situation needs and then know how to do it.
same
Hey Patrick. Well said. And I greatly appreciate the resource that you provide. When I'm training new guys, or discussing a technique with someone with experience, you and Climbing Arborist are my go to places for examples and explanations.
As you said, not a primary resource. An excellent secondary resource.
Patrick
Like everyone else, I’ve learned a great deal of things from you. One of which, is when to walk away from something. I’m not a pro, but your content has been invaluable to all of us. Thank you for what you’ve done.
I did. Turned out just fine. Rename it to "learning from youtube is fine when you're safe and logical"
Patrick you are spot on I love your teaching techniques and your love of the trade. Professional is a tall order but it simply means always learning every thing you can about your craft. Please keep doing it!
Patrick, I want to thank you for all that you have shared with our community thus far. Your content has always been spot on when I have needed to challenge myself or remember basics while trying to grow a tree service and grow as a climber. Anyone worth their salt will strive to become a proffessional. Like any trade the learing curve is steep. Find out or be found out.
I also want to encourage you to continue with making your videos. Non of us know everything. Their is always someone better out there, but your content has mattered. Continue to just do you, and share whatever you feel is important. Those who are worth while will appreciate it more than you know.
Cheers my Canook friend:)
JC
Dude I loved your channel. You have a great mind, a diligent work ethic, and prowess in your pursuit of knowledge and useful skills. I learned so many useful things that I use all the time from your channel.
You can tell which yt channels are teaching authentic transferable skills and imho you, Dan, Taylor ( treemagineers? ) and Richard Mumford’s are the channels that always resonated with my direction. Thanks for a lot of really excellent skill based content. All the throw line vids were ace. All of the back in the day knots vids for James were super clear. I would still be tying a damn bowline if it wasn’t for the daisy chain hitch vid. The resource base was getting big enough that it was actually becoming hard to find something that was posted 3-4 years prior. The one video I miss quite a lot is your SRT methodology. It was hands down the best interpretation for me. Hats off to Mick and be well seńor! Thanks again as always.
I’ve learned a lot from you Patrick and I appreciate the videos you do put out! Keep your head up your a great teacher.
Hay brother,
Keep doing what you’re doing. I have learned a lot from you and others on UA-cam. I also read books and watch webinars on line about tree biology to help me understand different species of trees better.
Don’t be so hard on yourself. We need people like you to understand the importance of what can , and will happen out there.
Love your honesty. I have a full time job , but love tree work. In a way I’m made for this , like August Heinicke says. I have worked with contract climbers that have been in the field for 10 years. You are an educated and experienced climber. You are right, one can not learn just from UA-cam, but can use it as a tool to learn from when lacking and hands-on experience.
Thank for your time and knowledge!
Cheers brother!
Brother.. I learned almost everything I know from you…..
you’re the only guy who talks in depth about techniques used on Deciduous trees… spreading loads between multiple spars… etc
All other UA-cam trees guys are great for very basic techniques used on conifers…
You actually provided a lot of new ideas that applied to the trees I have in my area… almost entirely Live Oak here….
I'll remember this, appreciate the comment brother... - Patrick
I always thought you were the most philosophical tree guy, and for good reason. One thing I will add is that you deserve more credit than you are giving yourself. Sure, you can't learn to rig down a tree on UA-cam, but you can still learn a ton of helpful information that can accelerate the on-the-job instruction. I only worked in the tree business for about six months, mostly as a groundie. I did some light climbing and pruning (I still to to rec climb if I can). But, as a groundie, I would go home and watch so many of your videos, on knot-tying and other foundation concepts. It paid off, to say the least.
Thank you Patrick - what an honest and thoughtful video. Your videos have very much followed those mantras and have certainly provided an opportunity for us all to learn. Your apprentices are fortunate to have such a knowledgeable and caring mentor. I am sure your son will really value the archive of resources and memories you have created. Keep up the good work and live long and healthy !
Judging from the comments I'd say you educated a bunch of climbers, myself included. UA-cam University is all about watching video from many different creators, never taking a single person at face value. I apply everything I learn from that pool of people taking it slow and cautious. Too many experienced people don't keep learning when things change. I learn from at least a dozen UA-camrs and try different things. I don't think I've seen a single thing you've shown that was out of line. Keep in mind that many people that are learning are never going to work in the industry, they have enough trees that need to be maintained that they will never pay for or work with an experienced tree guy. Keep up the good work, it is truly appreciated.
Pat- you are too humble. A good thing! A tree man or woman should consider and apply all the knowledge one can possibly accumulate. In such a highly objective and unpredictable work environment, the goal should be to reduce and eliminate risk. Pray and do your best. It’s of the chart generous for you to share your skills and knowledge. Consistently! Thank you so much for everything.
I appreciate you showing your humility and your efforts were not a waste of your time. I have learned quite a bit from your knot and rigging series. I have coworkers who are great at doing but not teaching so thank you for reinforcing.
Sending love from The States
Thanks for everything you have contributed towards showing the industry & customer alike that exemplary arborists are among us.
Wishing you all the best, you badass Snow Mexican
It's an interesting topic on one hand working with your peers will help you establish a solid foundation as well as a good reference point for the trees you are dealing with so I think you are right that it's absolutely essential. Like someone might see August climb something with woodpecker holes in it and think it's safe to do the same on a totally different species or be afraid to climb anything in decline because they don't have a mentor to help them gouge what is sound and what is questionable. On the other hand it wasn't until youtube became a thing that more knowledge has really been brought to light and with so many climbers these days consuming this additional knowledge I am finding the next generation to be really knowledgeable and more keen to try different things than most of the old school climbers I have worked with. I definitely don't try and "teach" through my channel but maybe documenting my mix of old school and new school will help people to think outside the box and realize that there is a time and place for everything.
As we get older it becomes more natural that we want to share what we've learned over the years. That is good. UA-cam and similar can be a powerful tool to share experiences and information. Sure, a disclaimer is always fine to caution would-be arborists. I always appreciate a professional who isn't afraid to show real work and real methods used. That leaves ME to decide what I can or can't do safely. In my case, I'm no arborist, but I am a person willing to learn how to do things "correctly". So many oppinions on what is correct...in every other aspect of life as well. Tree work is not the most dangerous thing I do, but I do have to be disciplined on how I gain experience. No different than going through college where it's hard to get practical experience at the same time. Anyway, I appreciate your videos whether they are meant to teach or not. I have multiple sources of learning, and your vids have been one of them.
Enjoyed the video. Appreciate your perspective. Watching tree work on UA-cam is both entertaining and educational. Most videos contribute in one way or another....or both. Some show you a good way to do it.....others show you a bad way to do it. It's up to the viewer to glean the positive elements that may help improve their tree work. A positive element may be someone doing something very dangerous and the viewer learning "not the way to go". Positive elements can be easier, safer ways to do something that the viewer can adapt to their tree work "modus operandi". Your videos have always been of real positive value. Showing the right and wrong ways of doing tree work. Very valuable. Your contribution to tree climbing, rigging, etc. have enlightened thousands....I'm sure. So, keep on keeping on. Please.
You’re the man, Patrick and you have been for years
I’ve learned a ton from your channel, thank you!
Patrick, no matter what the trolls say, you sir are simply one of the best people in the game and I hope that you can pat yourself on your back for it! I personally have learned soo much from your videos and augusts, and just a few more! that gave me enough confidence to try to take down a huge old oak tree over 80’ high and 4.5 feet around over my house and then I little by little took it all down by climbing and roping everything down and safely too. I especially liked the daisy chain hitch that I learned from you to! Also I’m 64 and never ever had been in a tree climbing situation before so I’m definitely done with that, but It was definitely a Great adventure and I also never have worked in the tree service industry before. So Thank you for everything and you got me out of it safely!😉😊 God bless you and your family, sorry about your loss of your Dad 🥺
For me, you are one of the UA-camrs who are identical. I'm often happy when new videos from you come out. We often work in small teams and don't always have the opportunity to learn from better climber and travel around the world is difficult. That's why social media is an extremely good basis for sharing, deepening and expanding our knowledge.
thx for sharing your thoughts and knowledge 🙏
I learned more here than working for a tree company.
I have always enjoyed watching and learning from your channel.
You helped me out a lot. I’m very thankful.
Your interviews with different arborists helped open my eyes to the broader world of arboriculture, and helped me to seek out good information. Otherwise I would have been stuck in a very limited circle for learning. Thanks for the work you put in to creating good content.
You just summed it up how important your videos are in most cases it's easier to learn when somebody shows you how to do something
Thanks for everything Sensei.
Humility is a good thing, but you are right. On the job training is by far the best way to learn.
The biggest reason for working with someone who is experienced is to understand what you don’t know. In climbing as well as many other industries that can kill you.
Hey Patrick, I found your channel and started watching your content and listening to your podcast roughly 6 years ago. Before that I was trained by a rough crew of guys who only knew what they knew, as you put it. I just want to encourage you and say that your videos gave me confidence and courage to apply critical thinking to my climbing and rigging. I pass on a lot of what I've learned from you to people who I've trained. In this industry it's hard to find people passionate about bettering themselves and learning all they can, thank you all of your content. I'm still keeping an eye out for future videos!
Patrick, I'm sure that you are expecting this, so I'm just going to state it:
I (speaking on behalf of me alone) have learned to do tree work at the University of UA-cam. I have learned much from you. I will state that, as in EVERYTHING else, sensible people will always be sensible people.
I am happy for you and your social media presence.
Hi Patrick.
I went through some formal training in 2020 and 2021 and found your videos really helpful and supported what I had been formally taught (in the UK). I'm only a part-timer and your videos are great reminders and really helpful.
Tree work is so varied that you'll never know it all. Even when you get to the stage where you see so much which is a repeat of previous jobs, there is always the potential for something to appear which will catch you out.
A minority of different opinion may come from people who use different equipment. However, I think you are right, most of the good guys aren't on UA-cam but you are an exception! A humble, open, sharing, good guy wanting to do a good job and help others do the same. Keep up the good work, stay professional and don't let the whinging party-poopers frustrate you.
Small jobs are indeed a frustration!
Your videos advanced my career so much, I’m truly grateful for your UA-cam channel ! Long live the bone 💪🏻
I must be one of the exceptions, I tried to get a job with several tree companies and no one hired me, I learned everything from online, from you and several others on UA-cam, and since I have worked for 5 different tree companies as a contract climber, which 2 weeks were spent at the White House. I refuse to quit learning and being humble about it, so many Thanks for all you have shared, because whenever I go and climb for people, many don’t even know a running bowline. God bless Treemugs.
getting better at what your doing is realizing how little you know about what your doing, your son will have the pleasure to always being able to see his dad in action. something i envy him.
Wow what an incredible humbling experience to share . You’re an exceptional inspiration to many of us whom use this platform as a source of reference.. Thanks for being an amazing human being
Joe
I’ve learned a lot from your Videos especially your knot videos thank you
Hey Patrick, I have a great deal of respect for you, you’re a great teacher. I’ve watched your videos for 3 or 4 years now and I’ve learned so much. I work full time as a mechanic and tree work for me is a hobby, I just removed an elm on my property, my first real tree job. Your care and dedication to this channel has taught me and so many others so much. Thank you for taking the time to create your channel and for sharing your knowledge, keep doing it your way Pat, all the best.
- Clayton
Patrick - keep the content coming! You are one of my favorite Secondary Sources! What you say makes a lot of sense, but make no mistake you have positively educated thousands of people.
Sure they need to go work in the real world as their primary source, but you and others make great off hours study material.
I started climbing trees about two years ago, everything I learned was online or repelling with a swat team in my younger days because I had no other way of learning, it gave me the basics which I depended on to stay safe and alive , I’m always learning or relearning what n how to do it, I never ever take anything for granted nor do I cut corners, I only except small to medium size jobs here locally to not only make a little money but to help out my elderly neighbors who on fixed incomes really can’t afford the big companies, I would have never attempted this without yours or other guys information on this trade , totally respect and appreciate you and others out there giving guidance or info on the trade
Bro you helped me alot transitioning into newer climbing styles. I've cut timber for over 20 years straight 3rd generation climber and logger on different sides. So just know you did helo someone
Jokingly, i tell my friends im "UA-cam Certified"
( i now know enough to be dangerous ).
Love your video Pat.
Look forward to many more.
-Randy
Thanks for the content.🙌 I have learned much from others in person as well as from social media, both through a judicious eye. 😜
I leaned the trade through watching hundreds of hours of many Pro Arborists on UA-cam for the first 3 years, taking on small projects and progressively working my way up. Then was able to get my aboriculture qualification which finished at year 5, and now I'm at 7 years, and I'm in no way the best climber or the most knowledgeable, but I am a competent climber. I did not have the blessing of having a real life mentor, however, I did have God leading me and protecting me in this venture. I found that being a climber is a calling, not a job, and I will continue to do the work until the Lord tells me otherwise.
May God bless all those who have been given this calling. Climb safe, and be humble, tree work is very dangerous
Patrick, I’ve thoroughly enjoyed the content you have created. It has helped me to learn new methods and techniques that have saved me and my company time, money and effort. For that I am forever grateful. Others may have similar or the same content and yet the way you deliver it is what keeps me showing up. “Tree work is full of egos and assholes.” …part of the reason this method makes good sense. The “idiots” are also people who think since I saw someone do it on UA-cam I can copy and paste that method anywhere. I appreciate what you do what you have done and what you will continue to do for folks like me who want to learn from folks like you. I’m sorry that you’ve been through such a difficult time and I’m glad to see you in better spirits It seems.
Would love to see more trimming/preservation video's. Not enough of it on YT.
I liked your manner; and I learned a lot from your videos. I am retired, and never worked in tree climbing for anyone. I watched videos, read, and learned on my own. I have greatly enjoyed climbing and working on trees on my property. I am also very careful and use all reasonable safety measures. I started nearly three years ago, and have learned a lot. My main problem is my age; but I do the best I can. I am now 74. I know, it sounds crazy. My wife has faith in my safe practices, and has just learned to accept that I enjoy the climbing. So thanks for your info and example, and all of the others that I have learned from. I could not have gotten through the equipment selection and use so quickly if I had not had this resource.
Sometimes it helps to say you're not doing fine bud. We appreciate you. Hang in there, things will work out, we promise.
I’ve learned most of what I know from your UA-cam videos(and August and Reg) and from the books you’ve recommended from Jeff Jepson to Gerry Beranek. I’ve made a decent living so far and lived to tell the tale. My brother and I started a tree service later in life (mid 30’s). With six kids I couldn’t afford to work for someone else. By God’s grace and your videos and book recommendations we have figured it out so far. We’ve gone from knowing nothing and topping trees from a 30’ bucket truck to actually pruning trees and using modern climbing techniques and constantly striving to learn more and do better for our customers and their trees. I agree that learning first hand from a master would be ideal but oftentimes in this world it doesn’t work out and I’m thankful for resources such as your videos for those us with less than ideal situations. Don’t sell yourself or what you’ve been doing the last few years short. I’m a believer in educated climbers. Even self educated ones.
I don’t normally comment on UA-cam videos, but MY reasons for watching, are for inspiration, and getting exited, about something new. No one expects to be proficient at a new endeavor, by watching a screen. Inspired, yes, capable, no.
Ok, unless you really can’t get that plastic trim, off of your Mazda. That, UA-cam can can make you feel like a hero!
Every single thing you expressed here, is exactly how I've always understood you to feel, right from the beginning.
Every person has a contribution to the industry. Sharing our knowledge and perspective to others in any form is what we all strive for. Keep putting out the quality content. No need to be an expert to share knowledge.
Patrick, I want to say that I have a lot of respect for you and have learned a ton from your content. But I tend to disagree with some of what you said in this video for a few reasons. Pretty much everything that I have learned about tree work has been from UA-cam and I am a solo business owner/operator. In many ways UA-cam is a better way to learn tree work than working for a local tree company - if you treat it as an educational tool rather than entertainment. Between you, Climbing Arborist, August Hunicke and the like I have been able to synthesize so many different perspectives and techniques, whereas if I worked for a local company for 20 years I would only be able to obtain as much information as the owner of the company had - and as his employee I would assume he is doing the work correctly and safely, when in fact it may not be. UA-cam allows you to readily see things like tree fails, barber chairs or other rare but potentially catastrophic events happen, when it may take years if ever to see in real life while working for a local tree company. I think for the right person, someone who is dedicated to perfecting their craft and a self starter UA-cam can be an extremely valuable resource. But for many it is used as purely entertainment. But I am also biased in this opinion because I know no other option - I never really worked for a tree company other than my own. But anyways thank you for your great content I really enjoy learning from you!
I went on a mission trip some years ago to help build a church. While there, I met a guy and we talked in depth about what we did. I had been doing tree work for 24 years at the time. He was intrigued by the idea. When he got back home, he bought some gear and set out to try it. He wound up hurt very badly. I no longer discuss tree work with folks who don’t already have some familiarity with it.
Thank you I have always enjoyed the insight you’ve provided
I respect what you do and your demeanor and have learned many things from you.
Always keep pushing and moving forward.👊👊👊
I learned tree work from youtube and books. I used multiple sources. I studied and learned for 2 years before actually trying to do anything in a tree. But when I was ready, it was basically second nature for me. I still have alot to learn. But I've got the basics down. Your channel was one of the ones that helped me immensely. And I appreciate the time and dedication you put into your videos.
I live in Japan and have learned a lot from your channel over the past few years.
Thanks for the knowledge and information.
That was a very heartfelt message. A little about myself: I am an old time climber, starting in the days of hemp climbing rope, Homelite and Maculoch saws, and tautlne hitches. We had an expression back then - tree work attracts the best and worst of them. Still holds today. Don’t beat yourself up about the trolls, idiots, and naysayers. You are a good teacher, and rarely let ego enter into your videos. I agree about learning by actually doing, but my mentors, maybe like yours, were not the most open minded and cutting edge. My advice would be to from here on out, create content for yourself, your crew, and your son. You will know if it is “true” and worthwhile. Save all these videos in a format that your son will have access to. Create a legacy. I had a partner, in another business, who was Jewish. I asked him once, “why do Jews place so much emphasis on education”. His response was - “ because it’s the one thing you can take with you in the motor the night”. Skills endure, everything else is fleeting. Thanks for everything you’ve shared.
Well , I liked your channel's old name, it was great.
I like to learn from you some skills though I am much older than you, keep it up❤
I freaking love you Patrick! Thanks for everything!
Man, your channel inspired me to get back into tree climbing. I don't have a desire to get into tree work, but I love watching content about it. In summary, ignore the trolls.