One of my favorite Brezhnev jokes goes something like this: Brezhnev's mother is visiting the Kremlin. He shows her his fancy cars, his exquisite furniture, and his mistresses His mother says: "This is all nice, leonid, but what will you do when the bolsheviks come back?"
On a cold winter morning people are lining up to buy bread. The baker comes out and says: "Comrades! We will not have enough bread for everyone today! All the Jews go home!" So the Jews leave. An hour later people are still waiting in the freezing cold. The baker comes out again: "Comrades! "The truck bringing the flour broke down. Be patient!" Two hours go by. It is snowing and the people are shivering. The baker comes out again: "Comrades! The truck cannot be repaired! There will be no bread today! Go home!" On their way home Ivan turns to his friend and says: "You know Sasha....if we think about it....Those fcking Jews got lucky again!"
Brezhnev's cars were kept in the Kremlin Garage but did not belong to him - similar to dachas, etc. Compared to even a mid-level official today Brezhnev-era officials lived very, very modestly. That's one of the things that terrified Soviet bureaucrats and why some wanted the restoration of capitalism - to be able to accumulate wealth and property, and to own, rather than manage, enterprises.
Well, it is true however that especially relative to the world the USSR was much wealthier than Russia is now. Comparisons like "watching champeons league" don't make much sense as those things weren't as widely available then. Same with internet and so on. I'm confident that if thee USSR had continued it'd not look like it did in 1990, China doesn't, nor does Cuba.
Don't forget when WW2 was over the Soviet Union was decimated by war and the US had acquired a huge amount of gold and money from basically being a arms dealer....what would have happened if the situation had been reversed????.....The Soviet Union also housed huge amounts of their citizens....they may have not been luxury penthouses but was the first time for a lot of people to have a proper roof over their head ..also literacy and medical care was a priority....
Well I can't comment as I did not live in the Soviet Union but I thought universal health care was offered and available...and during most of its time people might have complained about lack of consumer products etc but not medical care
Given these turbulant times where it's easy t oslide back into 'RUSSIA BAYUD' strawmanning on one side and on the other you have dipsticks outright worshipping the Oligarchs? It is a breath of fresh air.
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You're wrong. The ethnic Russians here (in central Ukraine) very much miss the USSR, because they have heard from their parents and grandparents about the glory days when they were in charge and we Ukrainians were their subjects. Also, being young, they have the good stories but not the dull experience of daily life to weaken the wishful thinking.
It’s a mixed bag from what I’ve seen. Some older Russians are nostalgic for it, some are don’t miss the authoritarianism. Some younger Russians like the idea of reuniting and becoming a rival super power again, some younger Russians wish their country would further democratize.
I think its more of a human issue. People focus on more recent negatives and remember the past with nostalgia. As a westerner born after the fall of the USSR, even I view it with a sort of romantic mysticism. The C&C Red Alert games, and others like Metro and Atomic Heart distill that feeling into something consumable. A good analogy might be the advent of synthwave/retrowave (and actually one called Sovietwave) No music from the 80's actually sounded like that, in reality it was mostly cringy. But the genre is a representation of the memory, and nostalgia for the 80's.
@daemon.running Good insights! Our fond memories of certain things that may not really have existed. Current 80's inspired music sounds "better" - has a more vibrant, cleaner sound than actual 80's music. I think my warm, fuzzy feelings of the USSR came from seeing the huge apartment complexes & how they were cozily decorated inside. It reminds me of life in the 90's when I was growing up, even though that wasn't my specific experience.
@@danb638Eh AH being Z propaganda seems silly, more like a game trying to do retro-futurism with Soviet iconography but failing to say anything about the state or economic and political ideology of the time. Maybe add in a bit of sexual objectification of women into the mix.
Gonna be hilarious in 50 years time seeing people say how amazing this time was and how the present sucks now, seeing the same shit repeated that people repeat now... Nobody actually cares about the real past and all it's specific positives and negatives, they only care about the past as a concept, the "good old days"
I consider myself fortunate. I live with a Russian who passed her youth in the USSR---something extraordinary remains in the people of that society. She will speak fondly of being a soviet pioneer and even working in the farmers' fields during the summer---Something Americans were told was akin to slave labor...Travelling to other republics for near nothing and participating in cultural programs---this was real and accessible to all; the much greater solidarity & generosity amongst peoples you will hear all the time from those who lived in the USSR. We in the West have no idea of the collective trauma of the Yeltsin Era when "democracy", "free markets" & "Bush lowest quality chicken" were brought in to save the "backward Soviet Peoples"'. That abuse, I have to call it that, has led directly to the very tragic situation we are living today...
BS. Of course she would say that, she was a Russian. Here there was no such solidarity. I wasn't born then but my family always hated the Russians. Our people always resisted them and never felt like brothers. This is a lie Russians tell themselves to pretend their imperialism is somehow better than western imperialism. I don't see manmade famines, secret police, mass executions of patriots, gulags for disobedient intellectuals and suppression of language and culture of the native people as "solidarity" and it sure as hell wasn't generosity. And we Ukrainians did see the collective farms like slave labor. Unlike Russians, we had family farms and don't feel happier under autocratic collectivism.
The economic gap between Russia and the USA has narrowed under capitalism much faster than it was doing under socialism (the narrowing stagnated around the 60s).
It is ironic, most people I know keep complaining about how bad it was when the USSR was on the verge of collapse, constant shortage of everything, poor economics, and this completely overshadows any ideological concerns or real economics. What people care for is stability, they don't really care under what flag or what economic system
My parents are from the GSSR (Georgia when it was socialist). And they told me how Russians tried to erase our culture and history and language. Trying to replace our population with Russians While i feel empathy for the unfortunate Russian civilians I'll never forgive them for the 1989 April 9th massacre, for the 2008 Russo Georgian war and so on
Exactly I talked to many people who are dissatisfied with current late stage capitalism or whatever it's called but i always get idea people don't want some socialism or communism but good old days' of 50s to 80 or even pre 2008 so they can enjoy when capitalism suited them . Basically most wanna enjoy every hedonism of capitalism without any drawback . I really wanna talk to some post Soviet nations to know to know what they actually want maybe someday
Wow, big percentage of people want it back. But I do understand why. As an American growing up in the 1970's and 80's, we were taught life in the USSR was horrible. But being older and watching amazing videos like yours has given me a very interesting introspect into the Soviet life. Boils down to some good some bad. It's true, grass is only greener.
As an older American who remembers the 1970s very well, I kind of miss that time-even though I think that, if anything, people as individuals are mostly nicer and smarter now. But there is also more division, homelessness, mental illness, drug addiction- and personal debt. More guns and mass shootings than ever-even though the overall crime rate is actually lower. The rise of computers and the internet has (in my opinion) done more harm than good. It is more apparent than ever that the system is rigged, and meaningful change for most people seems impossibly difficult. I think much of the problem is innate qualities within humans- as well as these humans struggling to adapt to civilizations which are changing so quickly, and those on top find it all too easy to simply dismiss the problems (and often very existence) of those less fortunate.
I miss USSR. I miss good organic food most of all. Yes , we stood in a line to buy it, there no many shops as now, but it was absolutely organic. The Soviet Union had control and good Soviet state food requirements. For example shelf life of lemonade Buratino ( Pinocchio) was 7 days. Beer 7 days. Milk 3 days. No plastic. Only glass bottles. Or paper. Plastic bags were deficit. I washed them and used again and again. 😂
I am 47 but I remember that time. We didn't have gas and water meters, only electric one. Utility bills were cheap. 2- 3 rubles for a month for all. Minimum salary was 60 rubles. Pension was from 55 for women. Men- 60. Coal minors, pilots, policemen from 45 because their professions were dangerous and hard. My elder brother is on pension from 45. Some Soviet laws still work.
It was horrible for most of the subject peoples. It was pretty good for the Russians, especially in the subject republics, where they were the bosses (often deliberately moved in by Moscow to run the secret police apparatus, the army facilities, and scientific and technical aspects, after qualified locals were all murdered or sent to the gulag). So, there's many people in Lithuania who miss the USSR but they aren't Lithuanians, many in Latvia but they aren't Latvians, and, in the town where I currently live, in central Ukraine, but they aren't Ukrainians. I presume they don't go back to where they belong because they still fantasize about their modern Czar, Putin, coming and giving them back their privileges. Some will literally say this in conversation, even if not publicly online. The grass is not greener in Soviet times for us.
Have Russian friend and Belarusian friend used to say this everytime someone said to them USSR was evil "what did capitalism did in a year that communism failed for 70 years ?" "make communism look good." i mean i don't really blame russian people wanting ussr back considering they went through the dark times of 90s and early 2000s
Yes, some are just nostalgic. But rather, people really lack certain important advantages, which were then and which are not now for many reasons. In the USA, too, every new president promises to find a philosopher's stone called "Make America Great Again."
something interesting i heard some time ago is that most people in the USSR didnt want the union to collapse, but rather boris toghter with the ukrainian and belarusian leader went behind gorbachevs back and declared independece, so it was a power grab by a very small amount of greedy people
@@ShubhamMishrabroLatvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Moldova and Georgia didn't wote, in other republics the majority said "no" to the dissolution of the USSR.
@@ShubhamMishrabro Baltics only began pushing for independence after Gorbachev's advisor Alexander Yakovlev went there in 1987-88 and told them to make a push for it. Before that even the most passionate nationalists only wanted autonomy as a maximum. As for Central Asia, they were the last to actually want to leave the USSR. If you look at the results of the 1991 referendum, like 90%+ of people in all those republics were opposed to separation. Anyway what small republics say doesn't matter. It was the decision of Yeltsin of the Russian republic to declare sovereignty in June 1990 that was the fatal blow for the USSR. Ironically in Russia this is still celebrated every year as independence day. What a silly holiday, to declare independence from yourself.
@@kanestalin7246 Lukashenko wasn't the leader of the Belarusian republic at the time, but only a deputy in the local legislature. Lukashenko is probably the most pro-Soviet leader in the ex-USSR, and was one of the few who voted against ratifying the treaty to destroy the country in December 1991. You are thinking of Shushkevich. Lukashenko hated him and gave him a pension of one Belarusian ruble for what he did in 1991.
00:50 🌍 Russians' desire for the Soviet Union stems from nostalgia, associating it with childhood and positive aspects like free housing, healthcare, education, and job security. 02:12 📊 Polls indicate significant Russian sentiment for the USSR's return, with 48% expressing the desire for its restoration in 2022, particularly idealizing the Brezhnev era. 03:07 👴 Generational differences are evident; older Russians (46-60 years old) show the highest regret for the USSR's collapse at 82%, while only 28% of young people (18-30 years old) share this sentiment. 05:53 🌐 Reasons for wanting the USSR back are practical: a better life, simpler relationships, stability, and social security, rather than ideological motives like communism. 07:19 💰 The perception of unfairness in modern Russia, especially in economic distribution, contributes to nostalgia for the perceived justice of the Soviet era. 10:31 🔄 Despite positive sentiments about the Soviet era, the majority of Russians prefer a unique path or European development over a return to the USSR, highlighting a nuanced perspective. 11:31 🎞 Nostalgia for the Soviet Union is rooted in childhood memories, stories, and movies, often overlooking darker aspects of history, like famine and repressions. 12:28 🚀 While longing for certain aspects of the Soviet era, Russians recognize the imaginary nature of the idealized past and seek social changes rather than a full restoration of the USSR.
@@bomjahed I think this may be a video analysis AI bot. Essentially bots that are trained to recognize imagery and text, and then figure out inflection points (key moments), and then create a summary.
There is one really strong point in this. It's called "internationalism" - I bet you Westerners don't understand this. But essentially it's very simple and in the US it's called "the melting pot". It declares there is of absolutely no importance who you are: a Russian, a Ukrainian and so on - you all have equal rights and opportunities, you could live and work everywhere in your country. Safely. Of course, it wasn't ideal but generally it worked. By the way, the Soviet Union in fact was ruled after Stalin by ethnic Ukrainians! And few cared about this. Very unfortunately, the transfer to capitalism immediately gave rise to nationalism in its worst forms and created numerous ethnic conflicts. And this is despicable.
As for Soviet society, it was not even aware of the main stakes: the level of political consciousness can rightly be described as tragic, hence it was unable to mount a serious, worthwhile resistance to the demolition of all the social and other achievements of the Revolution and the Soviet era, in the breakup of the country and its plundering by an alliance with the West of the part of the bureaucracy and the underworld that they saw in their transformation into a propertied class. At the end of the life of the USSR, in December 1991, hundreds of demonstrators gathered to protest in Red Square. The Soviet Union was defeated long before it fell, and it was its own leadership that defeated it. Then it was time for Yeltsin (also a former member of the Politburo of the CPSU) to complete the destruction. Russia's role was leading in the dissolution of the USSR, more serious than regional nationalisms. But the hostility of the so-called "Democrats" to the USSR also resonated with their supposed opponents, the hard-line Russian nationalists of Sovietskaya Russia and Den, who protested that Russia was paying for the regional democracies. The latter's opposition to the pro-Western orientation of the Democrats contained less and less of a social element, relying mainly, if not exclusively, on Russian nationalism. Except that the USSR and Russia through the USSR, existed and flourished, because they connected the social element (socialism) with the national one, with the upgraded position of the entire Soviet space in the global division of labor, at least compared to the periphery of humanity, which it also constitutes the great majority of it. In these circumstances, and although the vast majority of the population opposed, in the referendum of March 1991, the dissolution of the USSR, it was finally carried out in December of that year, approximately with a coup by the Presidents of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus and, I have no doubt, under the general supervision of Western intelligence.
The polls for indeoendence actually showed overwhelming support after an attempted coup. Also modern Russia is actually pretty close to the USSR in terms of QoL. The gap between them and America narrowed significantly in the decades after the collapse
I'm just in the first 5 minutes of the video and am really enjoying it. My mother grew up in communist East Germany and had a very mixed experience. I've been fascinated by the socialist history of Eastern Europe for many years and have quite a collection of East German books and artifacts, and I even had the opportunity to visit East Germany after the fall of the Berlin Wall but before it became part of Germany as a whole. There is definitely something comforting about ppl not having to worry about paying the rent each month, having a tougher stance on crime and homelessness, better mental health laws, being able to put plenty of (basic) food on the table, and having the means and ability to enjoy theater, music, and culture. But it's a trade off. I saw the poor construction quality of homes, cars, and furniture, the antiquated products and stores, etc., and the desire of people to have more than just the very basics. I can't complain about capitalism bc we live in a beautiful home in California, but it only happened by a combination of risk taking and fortunate timing. We might not be able to afford that today. So I see the pros and cons of both, and i think ultimately, there is no single system that works for everyone. There are only so many resources to go around, and either everyone has to share and have very very little, or 80 percent of people have a much better average standard of living while the other 20 are either in poverty or homelessness. Then again, wasn't there rural poverty in the USSR as well, and if so, why? Ok i will continue to watch now
You are right, - there was a huge rural poverty in USSR, which many people preferred not to notice. From the time of forced "collectivization" at the end of 1920s - beginning 1930, when most of the farmers lost both their freedom & their property, until the end of 1960s, farmers were working almost for free. Almost, because there was another sort of compensation, however miserable, - "pay for workday", or simply "workday", in Russian "Трудоде́нь".
"Workday" is a measure of assessment and a form of accounting for the quantity and quality of labor on collective farms in the period from 1930 to 1966. In the USSR, there was a mandatory minimum of workdays per year for an able-bodied collective farmer. In April 1942, during the war, the mandatory minimum workday was increased and criminal liability was established for failure to comply. Collective farm members were not paid wages. Accounting for work performed was carried out in workdays. At the same time, for the same work, accruals in workdays could differ greatly not only in different regions, but even in neighboring farms. After fulfilling obligations to the state (mandatory deliveries, payment in kind for the services of machine and tractor stations, repayment of seed loans, formation of seed and fodder funds, sale of part of the products to the state or on the collective farm market), the remainder of the harvest was distributed among collective farmers. As a rule, its distribution occurred once a year. For his annual work, the collective farmer received a share of the collective farm's annual income in proportion to the workdays accrued to him (mainly in the form of grain, less often other agricultural products). There were no uniform standards for issuing per workday. The amount received per workday depended on the property remaining at the disposal of the collective farm, which differentiated the “value” of workdays on different farms. From a hundred grams to several kilograms of grain could be distributed per workday. In lean years, grain procurements were not canceled, which is why the distribution of grain for workdays could be scanty or even not made at all (for example, this happened en masse in 1946 on most collective farms).
Thanks to it, farming quickly became very unpopular, and people from countryside started fleeing to the cities. In order to stop farmers from leaving, officials made it very difficult for a farmer to get a passport. Without passport people were not allowed to live in the cities. Most of Russian farmers were denied passports from 1930s till 1974. In order to get the passport at least for one or two of their adult children, farmers tried to work day & night, sell their veggies on the market, and, if they were very lucky, after many years of hard work save enough money to bribe the officials and get a passport, for, lets say, eldest son. Later he was supposed to "pay back" to the family, when he has found a work at the factory, saved his salary for years, and was slowly "buying out" his brothers & sisters in the same way, as his parents once managed to buy him out of the collective farming slavery.
Generally speaking, 40% of Soviet population, living in the cities, could buy cheap food, - however basic, only due to the fact, that the labor of the 60% of the population - collective farmers, who produced these products: milk, eggs, roots, - was unpaid.
I can relate to this somewhat and here is why. I miss the old US of my childhood. Back then there was a living wage, more open mindedness, folks could afford hobbies and simple recreation was within the means of the bottom 40%. I miss the wide variety of available fabrics to buy for sewing clothes. Back then sewing machines were made of all metal and had strong motors. If one didn't sew, they could obtain high quality clothes at the mid tier stores. Water bills were reasonable so gardening could be done. There was a wide variety of each kind of veggies. The things about the current times I do like. Far less sexism in the workplace and independent women aren't ridiculed. More information available about subjects.
@@caim3465 my childhood was mostly in the 70s. I became a teenager in the 80s. When I was 18, one could have a part-time job of 20-30 hours a week, go to vocational school, college or university and live in a studio apartment. Not possible these days. The propaganda was that the USSR was pure evil on every level and that at any moment the Russians would invade America. The proxy wars such as Vietnam were in my childhood. I was one of the few that didn't believe all the propaganda. Back then we had restrained capitalism that kept greed at bay. Once the USSR fell, then social assistance started going away. Wages became very low. I get $753 a month in disability and my rent in a low income government apartment is $1150 a month. I would be homeless if my two adult sons didn't live with me. At least I don't have to pay for water, so I often grow veggies in the complex's flower beds.
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 reasonable water allowed for gardening, which meant a good diet. I used to home can fruits and vegetables, so I could eat well all year long. I've never taken water for granted. High water bills now means only beans, rice and ramen diet.
As an American, I love discovering USSR❤ I am currently in Uzbekistan ex soviet country , I film Walking video tours for UA-cam just for free. It is my passion!
From what ive seen Obviously the older population miss the USSR while the younger population (especially after feb 26) saw a massive drop in appreciation and interest in western culture Along with putin basically saying if you want the ussr back you're stupid I think Russia is following stalins idea of having buffer states to protect it but while keeping the form of government they have now and change it depending on the situation (do note im only a few minutes in the video)
Putin dont want back USSR as a socialistic state. He wants only the empire, big Russia with USSR territory. Russia was always colonial empire where colonies were annexed regions and Russia is still not able to decolonized itself.
Setarko - gotta pause you for a moment right here: Soviet ice cream (AND Doctorskaya) WAS better. There's no question of it and that is my Stalingrad - not one step back!. It was superior to anything made then OR since. I know, I know, call me a Sovok. In MY experience with my family and friends still in Russia, the older ones most definitely DO miss the USSR. Even ones who couldn't wait to tear off the "red noose" of the Pioneers as kids and until recently would mock everything Soviet. As one ages, one sees things differently, and the USSR took care of older people FAR better than what is happening now. But... the vast choices of EVERYTHING available now, the still - to us - jaw-dropping availability and variety of foods - those are amazing, and who in their right minds would trade that away? (Don't get me ranting on American "Socialists" - Suburbrezhnevs - who'd last 3.8 minutes living the Soviet lives WE led in the 1970s lol). The funny part is the older ones think none of the younger generation want the USSR back - even if it were to be an organic Russian-Path USSR tailored to the modern world... yet a lot of the younger generation would seem to disagree and want it. I was home in 2017 and at a party where I was the only over 20s person Oleg Gazmanov's amazing song came on, and the kids were singing it LOUDLY: "Я рождён в Советском Союзе, Сделан я в СССР!" (hilariously, not one of them HAD been) - and this was in St. Petersburg (had it been in Khabarowsk or Vladivostok I wouldn't have been surprised, but Piter?). For me... of course I couldn't go back to the way things were. It was harsh and stultifyingly dull. I like variety. I like availability.
Russians will miss it. The ethnic Russians who want Putin to come give them back their privileges here (in Ukraine) miss it. We Ukrainians do not miss it. And by Ukrainians, I don't mean the children of Stalin's thugs and robbers who happened to fail to return to where they belong after 1991. As for food, as part of Austria and Poland our food was better and much more plentiful than under Soviet rule , and it is good now, without any Soviet Union to meddle.
@@michaelwarenycia7588 какие привилегии русских? Обычно наоборот, кадры местные, когда попытка продвинуть из центра - будет как с Колбиным в Казахстане, только на местном уровне. Какие привилегии русских, если Союзом 20 лет правили Днепропетровские и довели его, между прочим, до банкротства
Ive always said i think russians view the soviet union posotively the same way that british people see the british empire positively: it doesnt mean they want to bring it back and take all the countries over, it means that its an important part of their history and identity when they were among the greatest powers in the world.
@@c.edgerton так всё ж наоборот, лол. Правят Россией настоящие сертифицированные советские люди и потому реальный социализм не любят. Фантомные боли для них - лишаться поместий на берегу озера Комо, приглашений в G7 да взятие на бюджетный баланс вообще чего угодно, хоть промышленного развития, хоть территорий. Если б правящие Западом психопаты думали не о сегодняшней мелкой выгоде, а о завтрашней крупной, не превращали б любовь и преданность к себе российских властей в токсичный абьюз. Жаль, всё-таки жадны и туповаты оказались.
@@alaskamark4562 war support is growing, relocants re-relocate back after facing the attitude not like to dissidents for freedom, but akin to negroes during US Aparteheid-era or jews in 1938. Not a good way to raise or even retain capitulation support
We Americans that haven't had our minds destroyed by nostalgia crave the same future. To find a balance that our world so clearly needs. A world where everyone can look forward to a future that is not only secure, but bright as well. We want to live in a world that doesn't feel like it is melting away.
Yes, it will not be an easy task considering the conditions. But humanity has always strived for survival. Truly, new guidelines are needed, the old ones are either not approved, or no longer work.
This video leads one to recall Ronald Regan's USSR jokes, many told to him by Russians. "Only four things are wrong with Soviet agriculture: Winter, Spring, Summer, and Fall."
I'm paraphrasing by my favorite was the one where a American talks to a Russian as asks "Why in America I walk up to the President and tell him 'Mr. Reagan, I think you're doing a terrible job' and nothing bad will happen to me but I can't do that in Russia?" The Russian seemed unimpressed "You can do that here, " says the Russian "I can go into the Kremlin right now, slam my fist on the desk and shout 'Mr. Gorbachev, I think President Reagan is doing a terrible job!' and nothing bad will happen to me."
You’re the same type of person who’d say “just ask the people who lived under socialism, they’ll say it was bad.” Then as soon as they say they missed it or times were better you say it’s just nostalgia. Changing to fit your narrative to fit your own argument.
@@SanctusPaulus1962 what are you talking about? How is this a dad joke? He’s saying that what Russians remember isn’t what happened and it’s just nostalgia that’s making them miss the USSR. If there is a joke then I must have missed it or it just didn’t make any sense, so please, explain whatever joke you’re talking about
People saying that the 70's were good in the USSR seem to be logical. On the surface. It seemed things were on s right path, communism could be achieved and nothing could change. And nothing changed. Which was good and bad too. Development was needed. Development and innovation like in the late 50's and 60's. Not like in the 80's which was just simply stupid.
Why not? They'd still remain oligarchs under a socialist system, just like there were the rich communist party elites in the USSR. The only thing that would change for them is the window dressing
I hope that younger people are able to develop an objective view of both the ussr and the russian empire. Try to judge them both for their positives and negative sides, learn to appreciate what they have because in the end of the day we all just want to live normal, peaceful lives.
Quite many, but also quite few. Mostly whitebandit immigrants, forced to downshift from a respected officer to a cab driver🙂 First you support the February Revolution, officially fight for The Constituent Assembly, and after losing it all you will start to think that anime was a mistake
The dissolution of the USSR does not reflect how its people felt about the Union. The people overwhelmingly voted to keep the Soviet Union in the 1991 referendum. That it later collapsed into many republics was against the will of most Soviet people.
@@alaskamark4562 the referendum is not disputed, so no need to put the word in scare quotes. The USSR dissolved from the top as Gorbachev slowly lost control. After a hardliner coup and declarations of independence from Yeltsin and a few other soviet republic leaders, confidence in Gorbachev plummeted and public opinion accepted the de facto dissolution. But they were asked in a valid referendum and the majority wanted to keep the union.
ondine217. So... they voted for the Soviet Union but didn't fight for it? Sounds like pretty lukewarm support to me. More likely the whole Union was so horribly corrupt from the bottom to the top that the common man couldn't even be bothered to actually stick up for it. BTW, the "referendum" was to create a new USSR and not to preserve the old one, one third of the republics boycotting it and fighting for independence makes the "against the will of the Soviet people" claim pretty empty. ua-cam.com/video/SXfvo34Ubpc/v-deo.html People are scared of freaking quotation marks now?
@@xsc1000There was a great difference. Flats were for free. No that horrible mortgage slavery. 13% for 20 years. Good medicine was for free. I want to go home, to my Motherland 😢 it was stolen from us.
This nostalgia and wanting reminds me of an old English word where one longs for something they cannot return to. It is either gone or destroyed or never existed at all.
I'm a relatively young Russian (30s) and I want the USSR back because 1) there were no wars between brotherly peoples 2) the country was a technological, cultural, sporting and economic superpower, even if people lived modestly 3) the natural resources and industries belonged to the state, and through the state to the whole people, not a handful of criminals who privatized them and sold them off for a pittance or continue to sit on them today 4) you would get an apartment from work "for free" after waiting some time (maximum 10 years in big cities like Moscow, fewer in smaller towns; today nothing of the sort exists). It's not really something you really think about until you want to have a family. 5) health care and education were genuinely free, not the mixed system like we have today where a lot of top quality professionals are drawn toward the private sector. 6) Soviet-era silver-spoon-in-mouth types existed but were laughable and quaint compared to the мажоры we have today who even in a time of war continue to decadently live it up, often in foreign countries, as their daddies tell ordinary Ivans to go fight and die for the motherland. 7) The USSR (until Gorbachev) didn't subscribe to the glоbalist agenda on a wide range of issues. 8) The peoples of the USSR and Eastern Europe as a whole weren't dying out demographically. 9) I guess I'm a bit jingoist, but I like products made in the country I live in. In modern Russia it's mostly a clown show in that regard, perhaps the brightest example being the revived Moskvich car brand, which is literally a rebadged Chinese car that costs double as much.
"there were no brotherly wars". I guess you never heard of what you Ivans have done to us Georgians. Especially with the April 9 1989 Tbilisi massacre which was basically your own Tiananmen massacre on us. And even after the end of the USSR, you Russians made fun of us or mocked on your news in the 2008 Russo Georgian war So I don't know about you, but I'm glad the USSR is gone Btw speaking of "free healthcare", it seems like you never heard of universal healthcare. Not that I hate Russians but definitely a vatnik
I am an american that was born in the early 80's. I remember being happy to see The Wall come down because to child me 'these people do not want to be apart.' I knew nothing of the complex everything going on. I only saw one after another all the 'soviet countries' leaving so it must have been terrible right? That's what the history books said even unto the ninties. Look hos misirable communist life is. Rarely are things so simple! I wish the vultures hadn't picked the eastenr bloc apart like they did. Russia has great miniral wealth, great potential that was, in my opinion, stolen by oligarchs when things were too unstable for anyone to stop them. It shouldn't have been this. THe micro-district concept appeals to me on a deeply personal level given my inability to drive. Ditto getting more direct assistance in finding work. There are GOOD things even when one peels back the nostalgia and sifts through the lies for nuggets of truth that remain. Having the eastern bloc nations form inter-connected trade partnerships while retaining autonomy is what i thought was going ot happen, much like how the EU happened. Russia going 'OK we are transitioning away from totalitarianism, but let us learn from the failures of other capitalist nations and do BETTER.' That's what I wanted to happen, because the worst thing possible for any country, company, or person, is to have no peer or challenger. It is my opinion the crumbling of the USR and fall of the soviets signaled to companies here in my country that they didn't have to stop pretending to care. The alternitives have been killed. Exploit away. Also i can't blame or fault nostalgia over the heady days of the space race. You guys landed on Venus. VENUS.... a place that is LITERALLY hotter than hell (brimstone is burning sulfer is 444.6°C. Venus on average is 464 °C.) The international space station is largely a product of what russians learned from their space stations. Didn't have the manufacturing needed to make the giant nozzels and engiens nasa made? Fuckit be audatious monkies and strap a ton of smaller ones together... and y'know what? It could've worked! Or instead of a single straight to the moon shot. Assemble the moon craft in orbit. I'm honestly surprised russia didn't do that. here build a station. fly it to the moon. use it as a mothership so stuff could get done over a month, then fly it back. Tell the world to suck your giant fat slavic dong. Russia and her people deserve better. I hope after the current troubles past the itnernational community remembers that it is the oligarchs and hateful old men who are currently dying are the criminalshere and not the young men and women sent to die. Thank you for giving us perspective Something we very much need.
I feel like your opinions are heavily biased for the Russians. While I can't speak for what you were taught in America, life under the Soviet union was not good by any means. I come from Latvia and while there were some benefits to communism they were far outweighed by the negatives and overall quality of life has greatly improved after independence and under capitalism. As for you thinking that many of the post Soviet countries trying to form a new union similar to the EU, there's a reason that didn't happen. Many just didn't want anything to do with Russia. I can't speak for the whole eastern block but here in the Baltics most people have bitter feelings against the russians because these countries were quite prosperous before the Soviet occupation but much of their agricultural and industrial production collapsed after the Soviets took over. Then there was also the Russification where they tried to wipe out the Baltics culture and language, I won't go into too much detail but you can look it up if interested. There were letters that were smuggled out of Latvia explaining the situation at the time. And overall I think it's cool with all the scientific achievements done by the Soviet union, but I don't think landing a space shuttle on Venus means much when half your country is starving.
@@jonatanolsson4322 ладно-ладно. Мы поняли что богатые латвийцы, литовцы и эстонцы стоят на передовой экономик и культуры мира. Молодцы! И дальнейших успехов вам! 😉
TO say it shortly romantization of soviet union comes cuz in none of 15 republics working class doing good now. Youth fleeing, future dull, opportunities scarce.
old generation miss it, but do not wish to go back to it as they know it won't be the same. The new generation doesn't miss the USSR as it has no memories of it, but it wishes for a better future, for a democracy and to learn from the mistakes of the soviet union to make Russia prosperous, without repeating the mistakes of the USSR.
Unfortunately such "mistakes" will still happen. From the 1932-1933 Ukraine Holodomor all the way to the 1989 Georgian april 9th massacre. It's inexcusable I'm half Georgian and i think the world could do better without ruining the nation with marxism. Why ? How many "mistakes" do you think communists made ?
Losing the USSR meant losing the only alternative we had to neoliberal capitalism. However, because the people who are now in charge in modern Russia, such as president Putin, became exceedingly rich (many would say Putin is likely a billionaire) as a result of said neoliberal capitalism, I could never imagine them being willing to give all of that up for any lofty sort of ideology. In many ways, instead of being the end of history as some predicted, the fall of the USSR was the end of any ideology that isn’t just self enrichment by way of capitalism.
Capitalism isn't the issue, America pre 2008 and Canada until very recently were both places where life was good. You simply need to break up monopolies, not let the bankers create pyramid schemes to scam each other and not embrace globalism. It's that simple
I think everybody can relate to a feeling when back in the old days we experience a sort of unique memories that we wish would accompany us till our last days. Russians as I can see is definitely pragmatic. Soviet collapse was definitely shitty for everyone but returning to the Soviet system would probably be equally shitty for everyone. Even older generations would say that Soviet Union always be a good memory for them, but memories should stay memories.
I think those who want it back also ignore the crimes and human rights violations the soviets for what they did to the eastern bloc, and Asia. Here’s something interesting though, after the Soviet fall many ignorant former soviets were somehow dumbfounded that Baltics want nothing to do with them. There’s some obnoxious Russian rock bands that play their Ruski Mir message songs to convince the Baltics to come back under Russian Sovereignty. Right by their borders. even after their independence was well established. There was one particular rock musician who had Soviet awards that I can’t remember off the top of my head who was notorious for that My own country the USA isn’t perfect, but we never had an era where we’d get publicly shot because of differing opinions by government officials.
In my country no democracy, no freedom. Only corruption. I want to live like my parents. I remember that time. I remember summer pioneer camps, Soviet good education for free. Flats for free. My dad didn't still sell that flat . Medicine for free. I was badly ill at 7 and we flied to Zheleznovodsk. My mom paid only for flight.
@@TheKing-uu7jnthis isn't true at all. If you were in a union at many points in US history from the late 1800's to as late as the 70's and 80's. You were at risk from state and capitalist violence. People were murdered for capitalist ideological reasons all the time. The miner war from the 1920's is the easiest example. The scale doesn't seem massive but conflicts like these happened in America literally ALL the time. As a person of native American heritage I can't help but feel like most genocide perpetrated by the West was a healthy mix of imperialism and capitalism
Soviets paid only for kids who was older 7 at airports . Complete medicine examination for both of us for free. Teeth, heart, stomach and others. It is not insane to miss your Motherland. My motherland was USSR not Kazakhstan and it was stolen from me.
Its even more problematic for us in Yugoslavia for we barely had any oppression, especially on the Gulag level except for directly after WW2 against collaborators. But at the same time our country split up in the most violent way. Both that and the nostalgia makes even less sense. But overall I think people just realise the civil war was very, very bad and that the system wasn't too bad.
i think its not pure nostalgia. because they have a fact that they give free education, free housing, free healthcare, all have a job, all have money. vs would you trade it with barely have sausage or meat on weekly basis? or long queue to get one? like on black friday?. not to mention higher education standar, supposely you can study in USSR and then after graduate go out from USSR, looking more good pay job in capitalist country. bet german need more specialist people there
I think if you re organize your table of “popular rating of heads of state” by the “dislike” metric, beginning with Gorbachev, you will find a completely different way or viewing things. Do we view people by how much they are “liked” or do we view them by how much they are “disliked”? I think the answer is the latter. Or perhaps we all just “don’t care”
Everyone sane person should consider that if you made a mistake it's better for you to return back. If collapse was the reason of wars and death of millions of people, then it was mistake.
I’d say living standard in Soviet Union was worse than in western countries but was a lot better than most of the world. Russia in 2023 is just average, many countries have reached or overcome its living standards.
It was also not evenly distributed. It was better for Russians, not so much for us (Ukrainians), especially in terms of human rights and our culture and autonomy. Materially...well, they sent up space ships, but I don't really care about vanity projects in space when there's millions starving to death and millions in gulags on earth.
Also, living on a pension in a more expensive situation is not ideal. One can remember being able to afford the essentials, but with a pension not adjusted to the new cost of living, things are worse.
It's not just nostalgia for youth. I grew up in the 90s and 2000s and have no nostalgia for those times. It's about a different system with absolutely different values and outlook.
@@ilyatsukanov8707 yes, these were terribly times, and Soviet period seems better, but it wasn’t good either! I went to school in 60s. Army and university in 70s! I remember good times mostly, but remember also constant “rat race” for every simple everyday item, not good! What happened with country when, and what is happing now for deeper reasons than who sites in Kremlin!
I don't think that it's a catastrophe that the Ussr collapsed, it's more the way how it collapsed. If it would have been planned carefully we wouldn't have this many problems, now in the former soviet countries. Maybe like Britain left the EU. Sure it wasn't perfect and they have their problems, but it was planned over many years and they are still doing pretty good.
Yeah, but you're talking about a centrally planned economy that failed planning for decades. In the end, there was no "better" way for it to collapse that is realistic, unfortunately
@@br8745 of course there was a better way. Putting more thoughts into the borders would have stopped many conflicts, also not creating oligarchs by not giving everything away mindlessly
It depends tbh. USSR was wery interconected and reforms could never work individually on every republic on their own. So shock therapy was quite reasonable. Every state needed their own new production lines, factories and relationships(even tho I do not justify the immense corruption of some states). But I do believe for example that 500 days campaign could have worked. It underpinned a lot of problems correctly and solutions seemed reasonable. Not saying that it is bad or good thing that USSR collapsed, just that everything was possible and is possible even today. By that I mean that any country can become rich and stable, just we need to believe in it again :)@@br8745
@@br8745 This is just historical determinism speaking, there were many, much better scenarios in what ways the USSR could have been disbanded, but vultures within and outside of Russia essentially decided to crash the whole thing for their own short term gain, some countries benefited in the long term, the ones who immediately got access to European markets, but even there the 90s were a bad time that isn't fondly remembered. A slower giving up of powers would have been possible, the USSR was very much on the road towards a more liberal policy that got shot in the foot by the fact that the 90s and 2000s were so bad in a lot of places that people were willing to accept oligarchs for a stable life, because stability outweighs ideology for humans
@@alaskamark4562 this device only interprets data. Data that is sent through the internet, the internet was invented by the Soviets. The only thing we invented were different ways of interpreting this data though different devices. Other than this maybe solar technology is another innovation of ours, blockchain technology as well and maybe AI… other than that there is nothing objectively new in the west
Juan De La Rosa. New devices that interpret data in new ways is a clear indication of innovation. And the claim that the Soviets invented the internet is false, the earliest form of the internet was ARPANET which was made by the USDOD in the 1960's; the Soviets never actually completed their own version. ua-cam.com/video/cLOD5f-q0as/v-deo.html You're also ignoring countless other things we've come up with since then. From Starlink to F-35's to the Human Genome project to household 3-D printers to store-bought drones. The claim that we've stopped innovating since the Soviets fell is nonsense.
"My ex was better than this relationship" "You mean the one that beat you and couldn't stay out of prison?" "Yeah but at least he had a Camaro" "They stole that Camaro and that's why they are in prison now."
Thank you for calling out the truth! People in the U.S.A. feel the same way. We all look back with rose colored glasses and remember nothing but good. Today, all people seem to have fear about the future. We remember the past as a wonderful time simply because we already lived through it. We don't think about the problems that we faced at the time. We look back with 20/20 vision. Today, we look forward and everything looks fuzzy and unclear. The future promises nothing but the past gives us comfort.
I saw old America of 50s. Omg. So many beautiful and elegant people... In my Soviet Union the best period was 60- 70s XX century. People miss their Motherland. It was stolen from us. Youth wants to see that paradise for workers. 😂 They listen to stories of their parents and grandparents... they watch Soviet movies... They also want to get flats for free . My dad got it for free. They are tired of mortgage slavery. 13% for 20 years. 😢
I'm not sure we look back with 20/20 vision. I think we look back with rose colored glasses. People forget that in the 1950s we had a 90% tax rate, higher poverty, higher discrimination.
USSR wasn't a paradise. But it cared more about its people, life was easier and better in many ways and they were confident in the future. And I guess it is something that clearly states that it was better. And what was better should be returned. Yes, life back the had its difficulties but more minor ones during the good old days (late 50's, 60's, 70's early 80'). And the bad days (late 80's, 90's) are remembered badly for a good reason.
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 no homelessness. I think that is something I call caring. And someone had to do the farming too. It provided them with the necessary materials to farm quickly and efficiently. They had food too, excluding war and the famine of 32-33 because of kulaks. Yes, no passport, but why needed Other than that, no problem and caring.
@@xsc1000 Okay, let's take USSR in 1937, the hight of the great purge. Population of USSR in '37 was 160 million. In total, (during the time of the gulag system was alive) 18 million went through the gulag system. This includes prisoners ow war, convicts, criminals and real enemies of the state. Yes, it is possible that people without serious crimes also went to the gulag, but only 1.6 million od them died. 1.6 million, including those who killed 14 million civilians and left the country in a ruined state. Most of whom who went to gulag were actual criminals and not everyone went to gulag.
Personally, I always viewed the desire to rejoin the USSR as depending on how old you were when it was still around and what level of society you were in at the time: Youngsters these days might want it back because they view it as the "good ol' days" when they had a happy life and Russia was a strong country on the world stage. People from Eastern Europe are more likely to view the USSR as a dark time in their nation's history due to the resource harvesting by Moscow and the poor quality of life on the outskirts of the USSR far from the capital. Meanwhile, people in Moscow (particularly people who were high up in the Soviet hierarchy) remember it much more fondly, when their word carried much more weight around the world.
58% Russians want a special path? What does it mean? Does that mean they want a democratic government with strong government like Erdoğan's Turkey? Or a benevolent dictatorship like Singapore's Lee Kuan Yew will be accepted as long as it can deliver them prosperity?
Thank you brother. It's almost impossible to find objective political analyses today, especially about topics like the Ussr, it seems like everyone just wants to believe one thing. And I get it, because it's simpler this way. Overall, I mostly agree with you. I think however you are centering it way too much on Russia, as in most republics it was also pretty similar. Personally am nostalgic for the Ussr but wouldn't want to go back to those times. But I still think that a soviet-like system would be the best solution to the problems of today, and that with the knowledge we have aquired from the different socialist experiments, we can build a better system.
On the surface it would be easy No. But if you dig a bit deeper it starts to be not so clear anymore. I mainly don't like how exposed we are to the West and globalism in general - lgbt, feminism, western lifestyle, game/porn addictions, infantilism inability to take responsibility, no desire to have kids, expensive housing, sugar everywhere, junk food, gig economy, bad ecology, hormonal imbalance in kids their wrong development (gender dysphoria), cultural/digital subordination to the West, hookup culture, etc. etc. etc. I wouldn't mind having more decoupling, not to the iron curtain level of separation, but we need more autonomy, this Western sinking ship will take us underwater as well if we don't separate ourselves from it sufficiently.
Where the heck does Russia do to breed some of the most beautiful woman in the world? Way better than the USA! Ukraine is number 1 Russia 2 I can’t come up with any other countries that have any pretty women you would want to marry? Don Los Angeles California
Another one - but one who should know better - saying housing was "free" in Soviet times. Sure, it was rent controlled and very affordable even for those on their regular factory wage (although of course very few if any did not have a side hustle) - but free it was not. Why do people keep saying that?🤔😏😎
> Free housing No. No lol. > Free education This is correct, yes, the indoctrination service was free, and at least in germany was used as an excuse to prevent you emmigrating (but you received free schooling! you can't just walk away and not pay it back for the rest of your life!). It was also free in most other countries too though so this isn't a huge benefit.
Is it possible to have a basically capitalist economy with strong government intervention to ensure a basic standard of living and to minimize market externalities, while maintaining traditional cultural and religious values/identity and respecting a basic minimum of constitutionally protected civil rights? Kind of a best of left, right, and center set up? I'm not Russian, am American, but I converted to Russian Orthodoxy some 5 years ago, and have had conversations with the Russian immigrant population in my city. They echo a lot of the sentiments in this video. Not so much a return to the communist system completely as it was practiced, but finding that which was most desirable and discarding the rest. Perhaps America could use something like that these days as well.
@@williammollyvanronzelen8241 честно говоря, к этому движутся нынче все страны в мире в той или иной степени. Исключениями будут возможно Сомали и КНДР. Короче, всем миром будем строить Империум Человечества!
So no homelessness, full employment, awesome achievements, free and quality education and healthcare and other awesome social services are just imaginery... Would not have thought. Sorry I can't agree with this one. Ussr was simply better in many ways and what is better should be returned. Challenges were there but more minor ones that we have today. Challenges, mostly in the late 80's. Not in late 50's, 60's, 70's and early 80's.
1932-1933 Holodomor 1933 Nazino Island 1940 Katyn Massacre 1930-1952 deportations 1979-1989 invasion of Afghanistan 1989 Georgian April 9th massacre I'm sorry but i prefer food over starvation and freedom over being hunted by secret police and put in gulags
>full employment, free and quality education and healthcare and other awesome social services You can get that in Canada too, and most of western Europe > awesome achievements too nebulous to be compared to anything > no homelessness because you would be beaten and chucked at some random job to live in a crappy shared apartment. If you're not a drug addict you get better accommodations in America or western Europe in social housing.
@@My_Old_YT_Account @Mica-bh7dm Canada and western Europe have so good stuff because they actively exploit their workforce and the workers of poor countries like in Africa and the port socialist world. Achievements, despite you want to deny it were there, a lot of them they were big. Nebulous my ass And don't get me started on housing in the western world... It is everything but ideal. Just look at the prices and the homelessness in the westen world. i would rather share a house with another family rather than to live on a street in a tent. In every weather condition.
@@martonpapp269 Canada had better quality of life before NAFTA and globalisation (when we did pretty much everything on our own). Canada's workers were paid fairly back then too. >Achievements, despite you want to deny it were there, a lot of them they were big. Nebulous my ass list them then >And don't get me started on housing in the western world... It is everything but ideal. Just look at the prices and the homelessness in the westen world. Again, in Canada this wasn't an issue 20+ years ago. > i would rather share a house with another family rather than to live on a street in a tent. In every weather condition. Assuming you're not a drug addict, you would be eligible for social housing in most if not all western countries, which means you get a crap apartment but you don't have to share it with anyone.
why would they? current Russia is much more manageable. the military and security services have a tighter grip on everyday life than it did during communist rule.
people missing USSR not because life back then was better, it’s because the country was stronger and more respected/feared, most importantly they were younger back then
I was born under the "Iron Curtain", in Socialist Romania. The only ones who have a sort of "nostalgia" for those times are the Russians, and there are many of them; the problem is that their beliefs are based on lies: first of all, Russia was considered a "superpower" precisely because the Soviet Union was a collection of many states, there was not only Russia (which would never have been capable of alone). And the "well-being" of Russians during the socialist period was not well-being at all: they still had to queue in the cold outside shops for hours for bread, milk, potatoes... and the (few) economic benefits they had then rather than now they are due to the fact that the Russians took many resources for free (or almost free) from all the other socialist countries (sometimes it was outright theft). Those under 32 cannot know: they are not taught certain historical "subtleties" at school, nor obviously can books on the subject be published. But those over 40 are just poor disillusioned people if they really believe it
Поймали заяц и медведь джина. И загадывают каждый по 3 желания . Медведь загадывает первое желание. Я хочу что бы в нашем лесу все медведи были медведицами. Джин исполнил. Заяц. А я хочу себе самый быстрый мотоцикл. Джин исполнил. Медведь загадывает второе желание. Я хочу что бы во всех лесах России все медведи были медведицами. Джин исполнил. Заяц. А я хочу себе самый модный шлем. Джин исполнил. Медведь загадывает последнее желание. Я хочу что бы во всем мире все медведи были медведицами. Джин исполнил. Заяц садиться на мотоцикл, заводит его, газует и загадывает последнее желание. Я хочу что бы медведь стал голубым
This is also true for Venezuelans who remember the fantastical 4th Republic (1958-1999) vs Venezuela today. Vzla was a regional power with first-world luxuries like good healthcare, education, etc, but most don’t remember the racism, classism, etc.
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Some East Germans I talked about the changes since communism fell told me that under communism, they had stability and that everyone was equal. But they did like the freedom since.
One of my favorite Brezhnev jokes goes something like this:
Brezhnev's mother is visiting the Kremlin. He shows her his fancy cars, his exquisite furniture, and his mistresses
His mother says: "This is all nice, leonid, but what will you do when the bolsheviks come back?"
On a cold winter morning people are lining up to buy bread.
The baker comes out and says:
"Comrades! We will not have enough bread for everyone today! All the Jews go home!"
So the Jews leave.
An hour later people are still waiting in the freezing cold. The baker comes out again:
"Comrades! "The truck bringing the flour broke down. Be patient!"
Two hours go by. It is snowing and the people are shivering. The baker comes out again:
"Comrades! The truck cannot be repaired! There will be no bread today! Go home!"
On their way home Ivan turns to his friend and says:
"You know Sasha....if we think about it....Those fcking Jews got lucky again!"
Brezhnev's cars were kept in the Kremlin Garage but did not belong to him - similar to dachas, etc. Compared to even a mid-level official today Brezhnev-era officials lived very, very modestly. That's one of the things that terrified Soviet bureaucrats and why some wanted the restoration of capitalism - to be able to accumulate wealth and property, and to own, rather than manage, enterprises.
Well, it is true however that especially relative to the world the USSR was much wealthier than Russia is now. Comparisons like "watching champeons league" don't make much sense as those things weren't as widely available then. Same with internet and so on. I'm confident that if thee USSR had continued it'd not look like it did in 1990, China doesn't, nor does Cuba.
Neither China nor Cuba are socialist states anymore. They turned capitalist a long time ago. That's how they were able to survive to the present day
Don't forget when WW2 was over the Soviet Union was decimated by war and the US had acquired a huge amount of gold and money from basically being a arms dealer....what would have happened if the situation had been reversed????.....The Soviet Union also housed huge amounts of their citizens....they may have not been luxury penthouses but was the first time for a lot of people to have a proper roof over their head ..also literacy and medical care was a priority....
On paper, yes, it was a priority. But only on paper 😂
Well I can't comment as I did not live in the Soviet Union but I thought universal health care was offered and available...and during most of its time people might have complained about lack of consumer products etc but not medical care
@@mariusd8649 nah, for real. If something is only on paper, it is always obvious to the people.
I don’t see how providing the weapons the Allies needed to defend themselves from the Nazis is “basically being an arms dealer”
Cuba is a good example of that.
I really appreciate how holistic your analyses are. Recognizing the good and the bad parts of anything. That nostalgia can cloud judgement.
Given these turbulant times where it's easy t oslide back into 'RUSSIA BAYUD' strawmanning on one side and on the other you have dipsticks outright worshipping the Oligarchs? It is a breath of fresh air.
No hope in going to the past come to the loving savior today
Seek his Holy Spirit in prayer today he can give you peace confort and guidance today
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Come to Jesus Christ today
Jesus Christ is only way to heaven
Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void
Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today
Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today
John 3:16-21
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Mark 1.15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Hebrews 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Jesus
I think the older Russians miss it. The younger ones have been exposed to Western culture & have no memory of Soviet life.
You're wrong. The ethnic Russians here (in central Ukraine) very much miss the USSR, because they have heard from their parents and grandparents about the glory days when they were in charge and we Ukrainians were their subjects. Also, being young, they have the good stories but not the dull experience of daily life to weaken the wishful thinking.
That's kind of unfortunate.
@@michaelwarenycia7588The Ukrainians were their subjects? Ahaha like how Texans are subjects of the Californians I suppose
It’s a mixed bag from what I’ve seen. Some older Russians are nostalgic for it, some are don’t miss the authoritarianism. Some younger Russians like the idea of reuniting and becoming a rival super power again, some younger Russians wish their country would further democratize.
@@White_Recluse Good points! The views will always be mixed between various age groups; but in general assumptions can be made.
I think its more of a human issue. People focus on more recent negatives and remember the past with nostalgia. As a westerner born after the fall of the USSR, even I view it with a sort of romantic mysticism. The C&C Red Alert games, and others like Metro and Atomic Heart distill that feeling into something consumable.
A good analogy might be the advent of synthwave/retrowave (and actually one called Sovietwave) No music from the 80's actually sounded like that, in reality it was mostly cringy. But the genre is a representation of the memory, and nostalgia for the 80's.
What about soviet rock bands? Besides the one who the ministry of culture had under it's strangling grip.
@daemon.running Good insights! Our fond memories of certain things that may not really have existed. Current 80's inspired music sounds "better" - has a more vibrant, cleaner sound than actual 80's music. I think my warm, fuzzy feelings of the USSR came from seeing the huge apartment complexes & how they were cozily decorated inside. It reminds me of life in the 90's when I was growing up, even though that wasn't my specific experience.
I would not put both Metro and Atomic Heart on the same level. Metro is a masterpiece that stands on it's own merit. AH is just Z propaganda.
@@danb638Eh AH being Z propaganda seems silly, more like a game trying to do retro-futurism with Soviet iconography but failing to say anything about the state or economic and political ideology of the time. Maybe add in a bit of sexual objectification of women into the mix.
Gonna be hilarious in 50 years time seeing people say how amazing this time was and how the present sucks now, seeing the same shit repeated that people repeat now... Nobody actually cares about the real past and all it's specific positives and negatives, they only care about the past as a concept, the "good old days"
I consider myself fortunate. I live with a Russian who passed her youth in the USSR---something extraordinary remains in the people of that society. She will speak fondly of being a soviet pioneer and even working in the farmers' fields during the summer---Something Americans were told was akin to slave labor...Travelling to other republics for near nothing and participating in cultural programs---this was real and accessible to all; the much greater solidarity & generosity amongst peoples you will hear all the time from those who lived in the USSR. We in the West have no idea of the collective trauma of the Yeltsin Era when "democracy", "free markets" & "Bush lowest quality chicken" were brought in to save the "backward Soviet Peoples"'. That abuse, I have to call it that, has led directly to the very tragic situation we are living today...
BS. Of course she would say that, she was a Russian. Here there was no such solidarity. I wasn't born then but my family always hated the Russians. Our people always resisted them and never felt like brothers. This is a lie Russians tell themselves to pretend their imperialism is somehow better than western imperialism. I don't see manmade famines, secret police, mass executions of patriots, gulags for disobedient intellectuals and suppression of language and culture of the native people as "solidarity" and it sure as hell wasn't generosity. And we Ukrainians did see the collective farms like slave labor. Unlike Russians, we had family farms and don't feel happier under autocratic collectivism.
The economic gap between Russia and the USA has narrowed under capitalism much faster than it was doing under socialism (the narrowing stagnated around the 60s).
It is ironic, most people I know keep complaining about how bad it was when the USSR was on the verge of collapse, constant shortage of everything, poor economics, and this completely overshadows any ideological concerns or real economics. What people care for is stability, they don't really care under what flag or what economic system
My parents are from the GSSR (Georgia when it was socialist). And they told me how Russians tried to erase our culture and history and language. Trying to replace our population with Russians
While i feel empathy for the unfortunate Russian civilians I'll never forgive them for the 1989 April 9th massacre, for the 2008 Russo Georgian war and so on
Exactly I talked to many people who are dissatisfied with current late stage capitalism or whatever it's called but i always get idea people don't want some socialism or communism but good old days' of 50s to 80 or even pre 2008 so they can enjoy when capitalism suited them . Basically most wanna enjoy every hedonism of capitalism without any drawback . I really wanna talk to some post Soviet nations to know to know what they actually want maybe someday
@@OperatorMax1993 and what happened in 2008? Weren't it georgians who started the war and attacked russian peacemakers?
@@АндрейПашук-ь1фuhu and you think Ukraine also attacked Russia in 2014 and 2021
Maybe that is why the US is constantly trying to create a democratic regime where devastation and disorder prevail.
Wow, big percentage of people want it back. But I do understand why. As an American growing up in the 1970's and 80's, we were taught life in the USSR was horrible. But being older and watching amazing videos like yours has given me a very interesting introspect into the Soviet life. Boils down to some good some bad. It's true, grass is only greener.
As an older American who remembers the 1970s very well, I kind of miss that time-even though I think that, if anything, people as individuals are mostly nicer and smarter now. But there is also more division, homelessness, mental illness, drug addiction- and personal debt. More guns and mass shootings than ever-even though the overall crime rate is actually lower. The rise of computers and the internet has (in my opinion) done more harm than good. It is more apparent than ever that the system is rigged, and meaningful change for most people seems impossibly difficult. I think much of the problem is innate qualities within humans- as well as these humans struggling to adapt to civilizations which are changing so quickly, and those on top find it all too easy to simply dismiss the problems (and often very existence) of those less fortunate.
I miss USSR. I miss good organic food most of all. Yes , we stood in a line to buy it, there no many shops as now, but it was absolutely organic. The Soviet Union had control and good Soviet state food requirements. For example shelf life of lemonade Buratino ( Pinocchio) was 7 days. Beer 7 days. Milk 3 days.
No plastic. Only glass bottles. Or paper.
Plastic bags were deficit. I washed them and used again and again. 😂
I am 47 but I remember that time. We didn't have gas and water meters, only electric one. Utility bills were cheap. 2- 3 rubles for a month for all. Minimum salary was 60 rubles.
Pension was from 55 for women. Men- 60.
Coal minors, pilots, policemen from 45 because their professions were dangerous and hard.
My elder brother is on pension from 45. Some Soviet laws still work.
What was bad ? I wanted to taste bananas. 😂 It was my dream. I have never seen bananas. Only in the picture.
Lines. There were lines everywhere.
It was horrible for most of the subject peoples. It was pretty good for the Russians, especially in the subject republics, where they were the bosses (often deliberately moved in by Moscow to run the secret police apparatus, the army facilities, and scientific and technical aspects, after qualified locals were all murdered or sent to the gulag). So, there's many people in Lithuania who miss the USSR but they aren't Lithuanians, many in Latvia but they aren't Latvians, and, in the town where I currently live, in central Ukraine, but they aren't Ukrainians. I presume they don't go back to where they belong because they still fantasize about their modern Czar, Putin, coming and giving them back their privileges. Some will literally say this in conversation, even if not publicly online. The grass is not greener in Soviet times for us.
Have Russian friend and Belarusian friend used to say this everytime someone said to them USSR was evil
"what did capitalism did in a year that communism failed for 70 years ?"
"make communism look good."
i mean i don't really blame russian people wanting ussr back considering they went through the dark times of 90s and early 2000s
Yes, some are just nostalgic. But rather, people really lack certain important advantages, which were then and which are not now for many reasons.
In the USA, too, every new president promises to find a philosopher's stone called "Make America Great Again."
something interesting i heard some time ago is that most people in the USSR didnt want the union to collapse, but rather boris toghter with the ukrainian and belarusian leader went behind gorbachevs back and declared independece, so it was a power grab by a very small amount of greedy people
Baltics definitely wanted independence. So did all Central Asia
@@ShubhamMishrabroLatvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Moldova and Georgia didn't wote, in other republics the majority said "no" to the dissolution of the USSR.
@@ShubhamMishrabro Baltics only began pushing for independence after Gorbachev's advisor Alexander Yakovlev went there in 1987-88 and told them to make a push for it. Before that even the most passionate nationalists only wanted autonomy as a maximum. As for Central Asia, they were the last to actually want to leave the USSR. If you look at the results of the 1991 referendum, like 90%+ of people in all those republics were opposed to separation. Anyway what small republics say doesn't matter. It was the decision of Yeltsin of the Russian republic to declare sovereignty in June 1990 that was the fatal blow for the USSR. Ironically in Russia this is still celebrated every year as independence day. What a silly holiday, to declare independence from yourself.
It was Boris Yeltsin, Alexander Lukashenko(current leader of belarus) and some Ukrainian
@@kanestalin7246 Lukashenko wasn't the leader of the Belarusian republic at the time, but only a deputy in the local legislature. Lukashenko is probably the most pro-Soviet leader in the ex-USSR, and was one of the few who voted against ratifying the treaty to destroy the country in December 1991. You are thinking of Shushkevich. Lukashenko hated him and gave him a pension of one Belarusian ruble for what he did in 1991.
00:50 🌍 Russians' desire for the Soviet Union stems from nostalgia, associating it with childhood and positive aspects like free housing, healthcare, education, and job security.
02:12 📊 Polls indicate significant Russian sentiment for the USSR's return, with 48% expressing the desire for its restoration in 2022, particularly idealizing the Brezhnev era.
03:07 👴 Generational differences are evident; older Russians (46-60 years old) show the highest regret for the USSR's collapse at 82%, while only 28% of young people (18-30 years old) share this sentiment.
05:53 🌐 Reasons for wanting the USSR back are practical: a better life, simpler relationships, stability, and social security, rather than ideological motives like communism.
07:19 💰 The perception of unfairness in modern Russia, especially in economic distribution, contributes to nostalgia for the perceived justice of the Soviet era.
10:31 🔄 Despite positive sentiments about the Soviet era, the majority of Russians prefer a unique path or European development over a return to the USSR, highlighting a nuanced perspective.
11:31 🎞 Nostalgia for the Soviet Union is rooted in childhood memories, stories, and movies, often overlooking darker aspects of history, like famine and repressions.
12:28 🚀 While longing for certain aspects of the Soviet era, Russians recognize the imaginary nature of the idealized past and seek social changes rather than a full restoration of the USSR.
Ok but who asked 😅
@@bomjahed I think this may be a video analysis AI bot. Essentially bots that are trained to recognize imagery and text, and then figure out inflection points (key moments), and then create a summary.
Literally the same in Spain with Franco's dictatorship, here people also like to bring up about those times being more secure and with less taxes
Everyone i know with memory of ussr wishes it was back.
There is one really strong point in this. It's called "internationalism" - I bet you Westerners don't understand this. But essentially it's very simple and in the US it's called "the melting pot". It declares there is of absolutely no importance who you are: a Russian, a Ukrainian and so on - you all have equal rights and opportunities, you could live and work everywhere in your country. Safely. Of course, it wasn't ideal but generally it worked. By the way, the Soviet Union in fact was ruled after Stalin by ethnic Ukrainians! And few cared about this. Very unfortunately, the transfer to capitalism immediately gave rise to nationalism in its worst forms and created numerous ethnic conflicts. And this is despicable.
As for Soviet society, it was not even aware of the main stakes: the level of political consciousness can rightly be described as tragic, hence it was unable to mount a serious, worthwhile resistance to the demolition of all the social and other achievements of the Revolution and the Soviet era, in the breakup of the country and its plundering by an alliance with the West of the part of the bureaucracy and the underworld that they saw in their transformation into a propertied class. At the end of the life of the USSR, in December 1991, hundreds of demonstrators gathered to protest in Red Square. The Soviet Union was defeated long before it fell, and it was its own leadership that defeated it.
Then it was time for Yeltsin (also a former member of the Politburo of the CPSU) to complete the destruction. Russia's role was leading in the dissolution of the USSR, more serious than regional nationalisms. But the hostility of the so-called "Democrats" to the USSR also resonated with their supposed opponents, the hard-line Russian nationalists of Sovietskaya Russia and Den, who protested that Russia was paying for the regional democracies.
The latter's opposition to the pro-Western orientation of the Democrats contained less and less of a social element, relying mainly, if not exclusively, on Russian nationalism. Except that the USSR and Russia through the USSR, existed and flourished, because they connected the social element (socialism) with the national one, with the upgraded position of the entire Soviet space in the global division of labor, at least compared to the periphery of humanity, which it also constitutes the great majority of it.
In these circumstances, and although the vast majority of the population opposed, in the referendum of March 1991, the dissolution of the USSR, it was finally carried out in December of that year, approximately with a coup by the Presidents of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus and, I have no doubt, under the general supervision of Western intelligence.
The polls for indeoendence actually showed overwhelming support after an attempted coup.
Also modern Russia is actually pretty close to the USSR in terms of QoL. The gap between them and America narrowed significantly in the decades after the collapse
I'm just in the first 5 minutes of the video and am really enjoying it. My mother grew up in communist East Germany and had a very mixed experience. I've been fascinated by the socialist history of Eastern Europe for many years and have quite a collection of East German books and artifacts, and I even had the opportunity to visit East Germany after the fall of the Berlin Wall but before it became part of Germany as a whole. There is definitely something comforting about ppl not having to worry about paying the rent each month, having a tougher stance on crime and homelessness, better mental health laws, being able to put plenty of (basic) food on the table, and having the means and ability to enjoy theater, music, and culture. But it's a trade off. I saw the poor construction quality of homes, cars, and furniture, the antiquated products and stores, etc., and the desire of people to have more than just the very basics. I can't complain about capitalism bc we live in a beautiful home in California, but it only happened by a combination of risk taking and fortunate timing. We might not be able to afford that today. So I see the pros and cons of both, and i think ultimately, there is no single system that works for everyone. There are only so many resources to go around, and either everyone has to share and have very very little, or 80 percent of people have a much better average standard of living while the other 20 are either in poverty or homelessness. Then again, wasn't there rural poverty in the USSR as well, and if so, why?
Ok i will continue to watch now
You are right, - there was a huge rural poverty in USSR, which many people preferred not to notice. From the time of forced "collectivization" at the end of 1920s - beginning 1930, when most of the farmers lost both their freedom & their property, until the end of 1960s, farmers were working almost for free. Almost, because there was another sort of compensation, however miserable, - "pay for workday", or simply "workday", in Russian "Трудоде́нь".
"Workday" is a measure of assessment and a form of accounting for the quantity and quality of labor on collective farms in the period from 1930 to 1966.
In the USSR, there was a mandatory minimum of workdays per year for an able-bodied collective farmer. In April 1942, during the war, the mandatory minimum workday was increased and criminal liability was established for failure to comply.
Collective farm members were not paid wages. Accounting for work performed was carried out in workdays. At the same time, for the same work, accruals in workdays could differ greatly not only in different regions, but even in neighboring farms. After fulfilling obligations to the state (mandatory deliveries, payment in kind for the services of machine and tractor stations, repayment of seed loans, formation of seed and fodder funds, sale of part of the products to the state or on the collective farm market), the remainder of the harvest was distributed among collective farmers. As a rule, its distribution occurred once a year. For his annual work, the collective farmer received a share of the collective farm's annual income in proportion to the workdays accrued to him (mainly in the form of grain, less often other agricultural products). There were no uniform standards for issuing per workday. The amount received per workday depended on the property remaining at the disposal of the collective farm, which differentiated the “value” of workdays on different farms. From a hundred grams to several kilograms of grain could be distributed per workday. In lean years, grain procurements were not canceled, which is why the distribution of grain for workdays could be scanty or even not made at all (for example, this happened en masse in 1946 on most collective farms).
Thanks to it, farming quickly became very unpopular, and people from countryside started fleeing to the cities. In order to stop farmers from leaving, officials made it very difficult for a farmer to get a passport. Without passport people were not allowed to live in the cities. Most of Russian farmers were denied passports from 1930s till 1974. In order to get the passport at least for one or two of their adult children, farmers tried to work day & night, sell their veggies on the market, and, if they were very lucky, after many years of hard work save enough money to bribe the officials and get a passport, for, lets say, eldest son. Later he was supposed to "pay back" to the family, when he has found a work at the factory, saved his salary for years, and was slowly "buying out" his brothers & sisters in the same way, as his parents once managed to buy him out of the collective farming slavery.
Generally speaking, 40% of Soviet population, living in the cities, could buy cheap food, - however basic, only due to the fact, that the labor of the 60% of the population - collective farmers, who produced these products: milk, eggs, roots, - was unpaid.
@@user-oj5bw7sl8p so, pretty much indentured servants?
I can relate to this somewhat and here is why.
I miss the old US of my childhood. Back then there was a living wage, more open mindedness, folks could afford hobbies and simple recreation was within the means of the bottom 40%.
I miss the wide variety of available fabrics to buy for sewing clothes. Back then sewing machines were made of all metal and had strong motors. If one didn't sew, they could obtain high quality clothes at the mid tier stores.
Water bills were reasonable so gardening could be done. There was a wide variety of each kind of veggies.
The things about the current times I do like.
Far less sexism in the workplace and independent women aren't ridiculed. More information available about subjects.
Ty. When was your childhood? Mine was ussr 2000s. I am not from USA though.
I am not so sure about the water bill being reasonable is a good thing. Water isn't something to be taken for granted...
@@caim3465 my childhood was mostly in the 70s. I became a teenager in the 80s. When I was 18, one could have a part-time job of 20-30 hours a week, go to vocational school, college or university and live in a studio apartment. Not possible these days.
The propaganda was that the USSR was pure evil on every level and that at any moment the Russians would invade America. The proxy wars such as Vietnam were in my childhood. I was one of the few that didn't believe all the propaganda. Back then we had restrained capitalism that kept greed at bay. Once the USSR fell, then social assistance started going away. Wages became very low. I get $753 a month in disability and my rent in a low income government apartment is $1150 a month. I would be homeless if my two adult sons didn't live with me. At least I don't have to pay for water, so I often grow veggies in the complex's flower beds.
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 reasonable water allowed for gardening, which meant a good diet. I used to home can fruits and vegetables, so I could eat well all year long. I've never taken water for granted.
High water bills now means only beans, rice and ramen diet.
@@bohemiansusan2897 Its not because of USSR fel, but because every big company moved their production lines to China, India, Mexico.
As an American, I love discovering USSR❤ I am currently in Uzbekistan ex soviet country , I film Walking video tours for UA-cam just for free. It is my passion!
Uzbekistan was paradise in the USSR. My husband is from Tashkent region. Fruit paradise. ❤
From what ive seen
Obviously the older population miss the USSR while the younger population (especially after feb 26) saw a massive drop in appreciation and interest in western culture
Along with putin basically saying if you want the ussr back you're stupid
I think Russia is following stalins idea of having buffer states to protect it but while keeping the form of government they have now and change it depending on the situation (do note im only a few minutes in the video)
Putin dont want back USSR as a socialistic state. He wants only the empire, big Russia with USSR territory. Russia was always colonial empire where colonies were annexed regions and Russia is still not able to decolonized itself.
скажем так. Очень много факторов влияет на отношение людей к той или иной стороне.
Setarko - gotta pause you for a moment right here: Soviet ice cream (AND Doctorskaya) WAS better. There's no question of it and that is my Stalingrad - not one step back!. It was superior to anything made then OR since. I know, I know, call me a Sovok. In MY experience with my family and friends still in Russia, the older ones most definitely DO miss the USSR. Even ones who couldn't wait to tear off the "red noose" of the Pioneers as kids and until recently would mock everything Soviet. As one ages, one sees things differently, and the USSR took care of older people FAR better than what is happening now. But... the vast choices of EVERYTHING available now, the still - to us - jaw-dropping availability and variety of foods - those are amazing, and who in their right minds would trade that away? (Don't get me ranting on American "Socialists" - Suburbrezhnevs - who'd last 3.8 minutes living the Soviet lives WE led in the 1970s lol). The funny part is the older ones think none of the younger generation want the USSR back - even if it were to be an organic Russian-Path USSR tailored to the modern world... yet a lot of the younger generation would seem to disagree and want it. I was home in 2017 and at a party where I was the only over 20s person Oleg Gazmanov's amazing song came on, and the kids were singing it LOUDLY: "Я рождён в Советском Союзе, Сделан я в СССР!" (hilariously, not one of them HAD been) - and this was in St. Petersburg (had it been in Khabarowsk or Vladivostok I wouldn't have been surprised, but Piter?). For me... of course I couldn't go back to the way things were. It was harsh and stultifyingly dull. I like variety. I like availability.
Russians will miss it. The ethnic Russians who want Putin to come give them back their privileges here (in Ukraine) miss it. We Ukrainians do not miss it. And by Ukrainians, I don't mean the children of Stalin's thugs and robbers who happened to fail to return to where they belong after 1991. As for food, as part of Austria and Poland our food was better and much more plentiful than under Soviet rule , and it is good now, without any Soviet Union to meddle.
@@michaelwarenycia7588 какие привилегии русских? Обычно наоборот, кадры местные, когда попытка продвинуть из центра - будет как с Колбиным в Казахстане, только на местном уровне. Какие привилегии русских, если Союзом 20 лет правили Днепропетровские и довели его, между прочим, до банкротства
Ive always said i think russians view the soviet union posotively the same way that british people see the british empire positively: it doesnt mean they want to bring it back and take all the countries over, it means that its an important part of their history and identity when they were among the greatest powers in the world.
Nuuull. If may ask, what're some of the outdated views that're being imposed on Russians? Also, what're your thoughts on the war?
@@c.edgerton так всё ж наоборот, лол. Правят Россией настоящие сертифицированные советские люди и потому реальный социализм не любят. Фантомные боли для них - лишаться поместий на берегу озера Комо, приглашений в G7 да взятие на бюджетный баланс вообще чего угодно, хоть промышленного развития, хоть территорий. Если б правящие Западом психопаты думали не о сегодняшней мелкой выгоде, а о завтрашней крупной, не превращали б любовь и преданность к себе российских властей в токсичный абьюз. Жаль, всё-таки жадны и туповаты оказались.
@@alaskamark4562 war support is growing, relocants re-relocate back after facing the attitude not like to dissidents for freedom, but akin to negroes during US Aparteheid-era or jews in 1938. Not a good way to raise or even retain capitulation support
We Americans that haven't had our minds destroyed by nostalgia crave the same future. To find a balance that our world so clearly needs. A world where everyone can look forward to a future that is not only secure, but bright as well. We want to live in a world that doesn't feel like it is melting away.
Yes, it will not be an easy task considering the conditions. But humanity has always strived for survival. Truly, new guidelines are needed, the old ones are either not approved, or no longer work.
This video leads one to recall Ronald Regan's USSR jokes, many told to him by Russians.
"Only four things are wrong with Soviet agriculture: Winter, Spring, Summer, and Fall."
So truth!
I know it little different: The greatest enemies of socialism are spring, summer, autumn and winter.
Most of those jokes are fake btw lol
@@Admin-gm3lc No, that were real jokes from socialistic countries.
I'm paraphrasing by my favorite was the one where a American talks to a Russian as asks "Why in America I walk up to the President and tell him 'Mr. Reagan, I think you're doing a terrible job' and nothing bad will happen to me but I can't do that in Russia?" The Russian seemed unimpressed "You can do that here, " says the Russian "I can go into the Kremlin right now, slam my fist on the desk and shout 'Mr. Gorbachev, I think President Reagan is doing a terrible job!' and nothing bad will happen to me."
Soviet Union is a paradise compared to today's Russia
Nostalgia is still good, but it isn't what it used to be.
😂 gold comment
You’re the same type of person who’d say “just ask the people who lived under socialism, they’ll say it was bad.” Then as soon as they say they missed it or times were better you say it’s just nostalgia. Changing to fit your narrative to fit your own argument.
@@cozmoknot Wtf does that have to do with OP's dad joke? Did you reply under the wrong comment?
@@SanctusPaulus1962 what are you talking about? How is this a dad joke? He’s saying that what Russians remember isn’t what happened and it’s just nostalgia that’s making them miss the USSR.
If there is a joke then I must have missed it or it just didn’t make any sense, so please, explain whatever joke you’re talking about
@@cozmoknotcommie copium that was dad joke about nostalgia not any ideology loser like always
People saying that the 70's were good in the USSR seem to be logical. On the surface. It seemed things were on s right path, communism could be achieved and nothing could change. And nothing changed. Which was good and bad too. Development was needed. Development and innovation like in the late 50's and 60's. Not like in the 80's which was just simply stupid.
The oligarchs won't allow it
Why not? They'd still remain oligarchs under a socialist system, just like there were the rich communist party elites in the USSR. The only thing that would change for them is the window dressing
The Soviet 2.0 is gonna return to the future
I hope that younger people are able to develop an objective view of both the ussr and the russian empire. Try to judge them both for their positives and negative sides, learn to appreciate what they have because in the end of the day we all just want to live normal, peaceful lives.
What positive were there for the Russian empire the people lived like slaves
It would be interesting to know how many Russians in the 1920's regretted the fall of the Tsarist regime.
You must think they joined the Red Army because they wanted the Tsar back.
A lot. Google first russian migration wave. It was giant at the time
Quite many, but also quite few. Mostly whitebandit immigrants, forced to downshift from a respected officer to a cab driver🙂 First you support the February Revolution, officially fight for The Constituent Assembly, and after losing it all you will start to think that anime was a mistake
Here in Sweden it’s similar. Most people like the 70s and 80s when people were more equal and more services were socialised.
The best option is to take the good parts and leave the bad. Doing thinks exactly like they were done in the Soviet Union is not the way.
thank you for telling the truth
The dissolution of the USSR does not reflect how its people felt about the Union. The people overwhelmingly voted to keep the Soviet Union in the 1991 referendum. That it later collapsed into many republics was against the will of most Soviet people.
Yes. My parents voted for the USSR in Kazakhstan.
If that was true then the USSR wouldn't have collapsed. The fact that it did shows what the "referendum" was really worth.
@@alaskamark4562 the referendum is not disputed, so no need to put the word in scare quotes. The USSR dissolved from the top as Gorbachev slowly lost control. After a hardliner coup and declarations of independence from Yeltsin and a few other soviet republic leaders, confidence in Gorbachev plummeted and public opinion accepted the de facto dissolution. But they were asked in a valid referendum and the majority wanted to keep the union.
ondine217. So... they voted for the Soviet Union but didn't fight for it? Sounds like pretty lukewarm support to me. More likely the whole Union was so horribly corrupt from the bottom to the top that the common man couldn't even be bothered to actually stick up for it. BTW, the "referendum" was to create a new USSR and not to preserve the old one, one third of the republics boycotting it and fighting for independence makes the "against the will of the Soviet people" claim pretty empty. ua-cam.com/video/SXfvo34Ubpc/v-deo.html People are scared of freaking quotation marks now?
On your "The USSR was a paradise land" section, I wall say the supply shortages happened frequently after mixed-market reforms.
It started way before, more like during Brezhnev times. When the mixed market reforms were introduced, the state of the country was already very bad.
It'd be better than what they have now.
There is no big difference between todays Russia and USSR - Russia is back in totality.
@@xsc1000There was a great difference. Flats were for free. No that horrible mortgage slavery. 13% for 20 years. Good medicine was for free.
I want to go home, to my Motherland 😢 it was stolen from us.
This nostalgia and wanting reminds me of an old English word where one longs for something they cannot return to. It is either gone or destroyed or never existed at all.
I'm a relatively young Russian (30s) and I want the USSR back because 1) there were no wars between brotherly peoples 2) the country was a technological, cultural, sporting and economic superpower, even if people lived modestly 3) the natural resources and industries belonged to the state, and through the state to the whole people, not a handful of criminals who privatized them and sold them off for a pittance or continue to sit on them today 4) you would get an apartment from work "for free" after waiting some time (maximum 10 years in big cities like Moscow, fewer in smaller towns; today nothing of the sort exists). It's not really something you really think about until you want to have a family. 5) health care and education were genuinely free, not the mixed system like we have today where a lot of top quality professionals are drawn toward the private sector. 6) Soviet-era silver-spoon-in-mouth types existed but were laughable and quaint compared to the мажоры we have today who even in a time of war continue to decadently live it up, often in foreign countries, as their daddies tell ordinary Ivans to go fight and die for the motherland. 7) The USSR (until Gorbachev) didn't subscribe to the glоbalist agenda on a wide range of issues. 8) The peoples of the USSR and Eastern Europe as a whole weren't dying out demographically. 9) I guess I'm a bit jingoist, but I like products made in the country I live in. In modern Russia it's mostly a clown show in that regard, perhaps the brightest example being the revived Moskvich car brand, which is literally a rebadged Chinese car that costs double as much.
"there were no brotherly wars". I guess you never heard of what you Ivans have done to us Georgians. Especially with the April 9 1989 Tbilisi massacre which was basically your own Tiananmen massacre on us. And even after the end of the USSR, you Russians made fun of us or mocked on your news in the 2008 Russo Georgian war
So I don't know about you, but I'm glad the USSR is gone
Btw speaking of "free healthcare", it seems like you never heard of universal healthcare. Not that I hate Russians but definitely a vatnik
@@OperatorMax1993That's on Gorbachev.
People will go back to anything, as long as it offers stability
👍👍👍 Yes. We were sure of our future.
The Soviet Union was the first time in Russia history that they were governed in a Slavic manner
I am an american that was born in the early 80's. I remember being happy to see The Wall come down because to child me 'these people do not want to be apart.' I knew nothing of the complex everything going on. I only saw one after another all the 'soviet countries' leaving so it must have been terrible right? That's what the history books said even unto the ninties. Look hos misirable communist life is.
Rarely are things so simple!
I wish the vultures hadn't picked the eastenr bloc apart like they did. Russia has great miniral wealth, great potential that was, in my opinion, stolen by oligarchs when things were too unstable for anyone to stop them. It shouldn't have been this.
THe micro-district concept appeals to me on a deeply personal level given my inability to drive. Ditto getting more direct assistance in finding work. There are GOOD things even when one peels back the nostalgia and sifts through the lies for nuggets of truth that remain.
Having the eastern bloc nations form inter-connected trade partnerships while retaining autonomy is what i thought was going ot happen, much like how the EU happened. Russia going 'OK we are transitioning away from totalitarianism, but let us learn from the failures of other capitalist nations and do BETTER.'
That's what I wanted to happen, because the worst thing possible for any country, company, or person, is to have no peer or challenger. It is my opinion the crumbling of the USR and fall of the soviets signaled to companies here in my country that they didn't have to stop pretending to care. The alternitives have been killed. Exploit away.
Also i can't blame or fault nostalgia over the heady days of the space race. You guys landed on Venus. VENUS.... a place that is LITERALLY hotter than hell (brimstone is burning sulfer is 444.6°C. Venus on average is 464 °C.) The international space station is largely a product of what russians learned from their space stations. Didn't have the manufacturing needed to make the giant nozzels and engiens nasa made? Fuckit be audatious monkies and strap a ton of smaller ones together... and y'know what? It could've worked! Or instead of a single straight to the moon shot. Assemble the moon craft in orbit. I'm honestly surprised russia didn't do that. here build a station. fly it to the moon. use it as a mothership so stuff could get done over a month, then fly it back. Tell the world to suck your giant fat slavic dong.
Russia and her people deserve better. I hope after the current troubles past the itnernational community remembers that it is the oligarchs and hateful old men who are currently dying are the criminalshere and not the young men and women sent to die.
Thank you for giving us perspective Something we very much need.
I feel like your opinions are heavily biased for the Russians. While I can't speak for what you were taught in America, life under the Soviet union was not good by any means.
I come from Latvia and while there were some benefits to communism they were far outweighed by the negatives and overall quality of life has greatly improved after independence and under capitalism.
As for you thinking that many of the post Soviet countries trying to form a new union similar to the EU, there's a reason that didn't happen. Many just didn't want anything to do with Russia.
I can't speak for the whole eastern block but here in the Baltics most people have bitter feelings against the russians because these countries were quite prosperous before the Soviet occupation but much of their agricultural and industrial production collapsed after the Soviets took over.
Then there was also the Russification where they tried to wipe out the Baltics culture and language, I won't go into too much detail but you can look it up if interested. There were letters that were smuggled out of Latvia explaining the situation at the time.
And overall I think it's cool with all the scientific achievements done by the Soviet union, but I don't think landing a space shuttle on Venus means much when half your country is starving.
@@jonatanolsson4322Thank you.
It does not feel good to realize just how little i know, but I am glad that civil discussion isn't dead.
@@jonatanolsson4322 ладно-ладно. Мы поняли что богатые латвийцы, литовцы и эстонцы стоят на передовой экономик и культуры мира. Молодцы! И дальнейших успехов вам! 😉
TO say it shortly romantization of soviet union comes cuz in none of 15 republics working class doing good now. Youth fleeing, future dull, opportunities scarce.
Yes. Besides we voted for the existence of the USSR. 70 %. Yeltsin ignored that. Damn him.
Young people lost their hope.
@@helloworld-ti5zs I`m zoomer. You are 100% right dissolution of union was insanely undemocratic.
I was waiting for this video! Fastest notifications in the west! 🤠
old generation miss it, but do not wish to go back to it as they know it won't be the same. The new generation doesn't miss the USSR as it has no memories of it, but it wishes for a better future, for a democracy and to learn from the mistakes of the soviet union to make Russia prosperous, without repeating the mistakes of the USSR.
Unfortunately such "mistakes" will still happen. From the 1932-1933 Ukraine Holodomor all the way to the 1989 Georgian april 9th massacre. It's inexcusable
I'm half Georgian and i think the world could do better without ruining the nation with marxism. Why ? How many "mistakes" do you think communists made ?
@@OperatorMax1993 I think a socialist model like in Sweden would work well in Russia but take the American style federal system
@@bredoom Sweden isn't socialist
@@My_Old_YT_Account it's a social democracy. So it's socialist
@@bredoom no, socialism isn't when social programs
Losing the USSR meant losing the only alternative we had to neoliberal capitalism. However, because the people who are now in charge in modern Russia, such as president Putin, became exceedingly rich (many would say Putin is likely a billionaire) as a result of said neoliberal capitalism, I could never imagine them being willing to give all of that up for any lofty sort of ideology. In many ways, instead of being the end of history as some predicted, the fall of the USSR was the end of any ideology that isn’t just self enrichment by way of capitalism.
There are also theocracies with command economies, although that is not a great alternative either
i hate this liberal video because there are clear benefits of socialism in comparison to neoliberal capitalism
I'm a liberal, yet apparently i deserve to be punished ?
@@OperatorMax1993you aren’t advancing their dogmatic vision of utopia so yes. Nevermind that the only moral they have is power
Capitalism isn't the issue, America pre 2008 and Canada until very recently were both places where life was good. You simply need to break up monopolies, not let the bankers create pyramid schemes to scam each other and not embrace globalism. It's that simple
I think everybody can relate to a feeling when back in the old days we experience a sort of unique memories that we wish would accompany us till our last days.
Russians as I can see is definitely pragmatic. Soviet collapse was definitely shitty for everyone but returning to the Soviet system would probably be equally shitty for everyone. Even older generations would say that Soviet Union always be a good memory for them, but memories should stay memories.
Wanting to bring back USSR is the equivelant of wanting a war. None of the former republics want to go back to those times aside from Belarus, maybe.
I am ex-Soviet Asian. There are many people in Kazakhstan who miss the USSR. 😢
I think those who want it back also ignore the crimes and human rights violations the soviets for what they did to the eastern bloc, and Asia.
Here’s something interesting though, after the Soviet fall many ignorant former soviets were somehow dumbfounded that Baltics want nothing to do with them. There’s some obnoxious Russian rock bands that play their Ruski Mir message songs to convince the Baltics to come back under Russian Sovereignty. Right by their borders. even after their independence was well established. There was one particular rock musician who had Soviet awards that I can’t remember off the top of my head who was notorious for that
My own country the USA isn’t perfect, but we never had an era where we’d get publicly shot because of differing opinions by government officials.
In my country no democracy, no freedom. Only corruption.
I want to live like my parents. I remember that time. I remember summer pioneer camps, Soviet good education for free. Flats for free. My dad didn't still sell that flat .
Medicine for free. I was badly ill at 7 and we flied to Zheleznovodsk. My mom paid only for flight.
@@TheKing-uu7jnthis isn't true at all. If you were in a union at many points in US history from the late 1800's to as late as the 70's and 80's. You were at risk from state and capitalist violence. People were murdered for capitalist ideological reasons all the time. The miner war from the 1920's is the easiest example. The scale doesn't seem massive but conflicts like these happened in America literally ALL the time. As a person of native American heritage I can't help but feel like most genocide perpetrated by the West was a healthy mix of imperialism and capitalism
Soviets paid only for kids who was older 7 at airports .
Complete medicine examination for both of us for free. Teeth, heart, stomach and others.
It is not insane to miss your Motherland. My motherland was USSR not Kazakhstan and it was stolen from me.
Take a shot of Russian vodka every time he mentions ice cream
Its even more problematic for us in Yugoslavia for we barely had any oppression, especially on the Gulag level except for directly after WW2 against collaborators. But at the same time our country split up in the most violent way. Both that and the nostalgia makes even less sense. But overall I think people just realise the civil war was very, very bad and that the system wasn't too bad.
They miss free apartments, security in job that’s about it probably!
9:41 A high opinion of Nicholas II, Stalin and Brezhnev? Man notalgia in Russia is evne more stupid than the west's nostalgia.
i think its not pure nostalgia. because they have a fact that they give free education, free housing, free healthcare, all have a job, all have money. vs would you trade it with barely have sausage or meat on weekly basis? or long queue to get one? like on black friday?. not to mention higher education standar, supposely you can study in USSR and then after graduate go out from USSR, looking more good pay job in capitalist country. bet german need more specialist people there
I think if you re organize your table of “popular rating of heads of state” by the “dislike” metric, beginning with Gorbachev, you will find a completely different way or viewing things.
Do we view people by how much they are “liked” or do we view them by how much they are “disliked”?
I think the answer is the latter.
Or perhaps we all just “don’t care”
USSR 2.0 was launched a year after USSR 1.0 Its called the EU
Not false
Everyone sane person should consider that if you made a mistake it's better for you to return back. If collapse was the reason of wars and death of millions of people, then it was mistake.
I’d say living standard in Soviet Union was worse than in western countries but was a lot better than most of the world. Russia in 2023 is just average, many countries have reached or overcome its living standards.
It was also not evenly distributed. It was better for Russians, not so much for us (Ukrainians), especially in terms of human rights and our culture and autonomy. Materially...well, they sent up space ships, but I don't really care about vanity projects in space when there's millions starving to death and millions in gulags on earth.
I have a parent who lived in those days and he really miss and have a great nostalgic feeling about Soviet Union
We Ukrainians don't miss it. Though the Russians sent here by Stalin and kruschev to rule over us sure do.
Interesting video about politics of memory and political psychology. Really liked it.
It’s nostalgia for simple times for some and just youth years for other.
Это тоска по родине. Люди не так глупы как вы думаете.
@@helloworld-ti5zs I don’t think that all people are stupid, just some of them!
Also, living on a pension in a more expensive situation is not ideal. One can remember being able to afford the essentials, but with a pension not adjusted to the new cost of living, things are worse.
It's not just nostalgia for youth. I grew up in the 90s and 2000s and have no nostalgia for those times. It's about a different system with absolutely different values and outlook.
@@ilyatsukanov8707 yes, these were terribly times, and Soviet period seems better, but it wasn’t good either! I went to school in 60s. Army and university in 70s! I remember good times mostly, but remember also constant “rat race” for every simple everyday item, not good! What happened with country when, and what is happing now for deeper reasons than who sites in Kremlin!
Many do, especially the older ones and the poor ones. The ones who go shopping in Milan or Paris - not so much.
I don't think that it's a catastrophe that the Ussr collapsed, it's more the way how it collapsed. If it would have been planned carefully we wouldn't have this many problems, now in the former soviet countries. Maybe like Britain left the EU. Sure it wasn't perfect and they have their problems, but it was planned over many years and they are still doing pretty good.
Yeah, but you're talking about a centrally planned economy that failed planning for decades. In the end, there was no "better" way for it to collapse that is realistic, unfortunately
@@br8745Soviet union had NEP at some point, i thought it worked well, not sure why they got rid of it.
@@br8745 of course there was a better way. Putting more thoughts into the borders would have stopped many conflicts, also not creating oligarchs by not giving everything away mindlessly
It depends tbh. USSR was wery interconected and reforms could never work individually on every republic on their own. So shock therapy was quite reasonable. Every state needed their own new production lines, factories and relationships(even tho I do not justify the immense corruption of some states). But I do believe for example that 500 days campaign could have worked. It underpinned a lot of problems correctly and solutions seemed reasonable. Not saying that it is bad or good thing that USSR collapsed, just that everything was possible and is possible even today. By that I mean that any country can become rich and stable, just we need to believe in it again :)@@br8745
@@br8745 This is just historical determinism speaking, there were many, much better scenarios in what ways the USSR could have been disbanded, but vultures within and outside of Russia essentially decided to crash the whole thing for their own short term gain, some countries benefited in the long term, the ones who immediately got access to European markets, but even there the 90s were a bad time that isn't fondly remembered.
A slower giving up of powers would have been possible, the USSR was very much on the road towards a more liberal policy that got shot in the foot by the fact that the 90s and 2000s were so bad in a lot of places that people were willing to accept oligarchs for a stable life, because stability outweighs ideology for humans
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Many westerners argue the same thing. Once they collapsed we stopped innovating
We stopped innovating? When did this machine you're writing your comment with get put on store shelves? Before or after they collapsed?
@@alaskamark4562 this device only interprets data. Data that is sent through the internet, the internet was invented by the Soviets. The only thing we invented were different ways of interpreting this data though different devices. Other than this maybe solar technology is another innovation of ours, blockchain technology as well and maybe AI… other than that there is nothing objectively new in the west
Juan De La Rosa. New devices that interpret data in new ways is a clear indication of innovation. And the claim that the Soviets invented the internet is false, the earliest form of the internet was ARPANET which was made by the USDOD in the 1960's; the Soviets never actually completed their own version. ua-cam.com/video/cLOD5f-q0as/v-deo.html
You're also ignoring countless other things we've come up with since then. From Starlink to F-35's to the Human Genome project to household 3-D printers to store-bought drones. The claim that we've stopped innovating since the Soviets fell is nonsense.
"My ex was better than this relationship"
"You mean the one that beat you and couldn't stay out of prison?"
"Yeah but at least he had a Camaro"
"They stole that Camaro and that's why they are in prison now."
Thank you for calling out the truth! People in the U.S.A. feel the same way. We all look back with rose colored glasses and remember nothing but good. Today, all people seem to have fear about the future. We remember the past as a wonderful time simply because we already lived through it. We don't think about the problems that we faced at the time. We look back with 20/20 vision. Today, we look forward and everything looks fuzzy and unclear. The future promises nothing but the past gives us comfort.
I saw old America of 50s. Omg. So many beautiful and elegant people...
In my Soviet Union the best period was 60- 70s XX century.
People miss their Motherland. It was stolen from us.
Youth wants to see that paradise for workers. 😂 They listen to stories of their parents and grandparents... they watch Soviet movies...
They also want to get flats for free . My dad got it for free. They are tired of mortgage slavery. 13% for 20 years. 😢
I'm not sure we look back with 20/20 vision. I think we look back with rose colored glasses. People forget that in the 1950s we had a 90% tax rate, higher poverty, higher discrimination.
russians may miss it, but not the baltic states
Union of Soviet Socialist Republic✊✊✊
In the words of Hawkeye- “don’t give me hope”
USSR wasn't a paradise. But it cared more about its people, life was easier and better in many ways and they were confident in the future. And I guess it is something that clearly states that it was better. And what was better should be returned. Yes, life back the had its difficulties but more minor ones during the good old days (late 50's, 60's, 70's early 80'). And the bad days (late 80's, 90's) are remembered badly for a good reason.
"But it care more about its people". If only you knew how the Soviets deal with homeless people and farmers...
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 no homelessness. I think that is something I call caring. And someone had to do the farming too. It provided them with the necessary materials to farm quickly and efficiently. They had food too, excluding war and the famine of 32-33 because of kulaks. Yes, no passport, but why needed Other than that, no problem and caring.
@@martonpapp269 Yes, no homelesness, because everyone was sent out of the city, than directly to gulag ... It is the "care" you admire...
@@xsc1000 Okay, let's take USSR in 1937, the hight of the great purge. Population of USSR in '37 was 160 million. In total, (during the time of the gulag system was alive) 18 million went through the gulag system. This includes prisoners ow war, convicts, criminals and real enemies of the state. Yes, it is possible that people without serious crimes also went to the gulag, but only 1.6 million od them died. 1.6 million, including those who killed 14 million civilians and left the country in a ruined state. Most of whom who went to gulag were actual criminals and not everyone went to gulag.
@@martonpapp269 Its funny propaganda lie. Btw where they always find so much of the state enemies?
Personally, I always viewed the desire to rejoin the USSR as depending on how old you were when it was still around and what level of society you were in at the time:
Youngsters these days might want it back because they view it as the "good ol' days" when they had a happy life and Russia was a strong country on the world stage.
People from Eastern Europe are more likely to view the USSR as a dark time in their nation's history due to the resource harvesting by Moscow and the poor quality of life on the outskirts of the USSR far from the capital.
Meanwhile, people in Moscow (particularly people who were high up in the Soviet hierarchy) remember it much more fondly, when their word carried much more weight around the world.
According to your hypothesis, Soviet citizens should have been nostalgic for the Tsar
We need the soviet union
58% Russians want a special path? What does it mean? Does that mean they want a democratic government with strong government like Erdoğan's Turkey? Or a benevolent dictatorship like Singapore's Lee Kuan Yew will be accepted as long as it can deliver them prosperity?
God this guy makes top tier stuff.
Thank you brother. It's almost impossible to find objective political analyses today, especially about topics like the Ussr, it seems like everyone just wants to believe one thing. And I get it, because it's simpler this way. Overall, I mostly agree with you. I think however you are centering it way too much on Russia, as in most republics it was also pretty similar.
Personally am nostalgic for the Ussr but wouldn't want to go back to those times. But I still think that a soviet-like system would be the best solution to the problems of today, and that with the knowledge we have aquired from the different socialist experiments, we can build a better system.
On the surface it would be easy No.
But if you dig a bit deeper it starts to be not so clear anymore. I mainly don't like how exposed we are to the West and globalism in general - lgbt, feminism, western lifestyle, game/porn addictions, infantilism inability to take responsibility, no desire to have kids, expensive housing, sugar everywhere, junk food, gig economy, bad ecology, hormonal imbalance in kids their wrong development (gender dysphoria), cultural/digital subordination to the West, hookup culture, etc. etc. etc.
I wouldn't mind having more decoupling, not to the iron curtain level of separation, but we need more autonomy, this Western sinking ship will take us underwater as well if we don't separate ourselves from it sufficiently.
Where the heck does Russia do to breed some of the most beautiful woman in the world? Way better than the USA! Ukraine is number 1 Russia 2 I can’t come up with any other countries that have any pretty women you would want to marry? Don Los Angeles California
Another one - but one who should know better - saying housing was "free" in Soviet times. Sure, it was rent controlled and very affordable even for those on their regular factory wage (although of course very few if any did not have a side hustle) - but free it was not. Why do people keep saying that?🤔😏😎
> Free housing
No. No lol.
> Free education
This is correct, yes, the indoctrination service was free, and at least in germany was used as an excuse to prevent you emmigrating (but you received free schooling! you can't just walk away and not pay it back for the rest of your life!). It was also free in most other countries too though so this isn't a huge benefit.
Is it possible to have a basically capitalist economy with strong government intervention to ensure a basic standard of living and to minimize market externalities, while maintaining traditional cultural and religious values/identity and respecting a basic minimum of constitutionally protected civil rights? Kind of a best of left, right, and center set up? I'm not Russian, am American, but I converted to Russian Orthodoxy some 5 years ago, and have had conversations with the Russian immigrant population in my city. They echo a lot of the sentiments in this video. Not so much a return to the communist system completely as it was practiced, but finding that which was most desirable and discarding the rest. Perhaps America could use something like that these days as well.
Это называется "Третий Путь", то что хотели построить Муссолини, Франко и т.д.
@@urarti7049 Is this the direction Russia is going in today?
@@williammollyvanronzelen8241 честно говоря, к этому движутся нынче все страны в мире в той или иной степени. Исключениями будут возможно Сомали и КНДР. Короче, всем миром будем строить Империум Человечества!
So no homelessness, full employment, awesome achievements, free and quality education and healthcare and other awesome social services are just imaginery... Would not have thought. Sorry I can't agree with this one. Ussr was simply better in many ways and what is better should be returned. Challenges were there but more minor ones that we have today. Challenges, mostly in the late 80's. Not in late 50's, 60's, 70's and early 80's.
I agree. I love Setarko but this time he put up a pretty flashy contradiction
1932-1933 Holodomor
1933 Nazino Island
1940 Katyn Massacre
1930-1952 deportations
1979-1989 invasion of Afghanistan
1989 Georgian April 9th massacre
I'm sorry but i prefer food over starvation and freedom over being hunted by secret police and put in gulags
>full employment, free and quality education and healthcare and other awesome social services
You can get that in Canada too, and most of western Europe
> awesome achievements
too nebulous to be compared to anything
> no homelessness
because you would be beaten and chucked at some random job to live in a crappy shared apartment. If you're not a drug addict you get better accommodations in America or western Europe in social housing.
@@My_Old_YT_Account @Mica-bh7dm Canada and western Europe have so good stuff because they actively exploit their workforce and the workers of poor countries like in Africa and the port socialist world.
Achievements, despite you want to deny it were there, a lot of them they were big. Nebulous my ass
And don't get me started on housing in the western world... It is everything but ideal. Just look at the prices and the homelessness in the westen world. i would rather share a house with another family rather than to live on a street in a tent. In every weather condition.
@@martonpapp269 Canada had better quality of life before NAFTA and globalisation (when we did pretty much everything on our own). Canada's workers were paid fairly back then too.
>Achievements, despite you want to deny it were there, a lot of them they were big. Nebulous my ass
list them then
>And don't get me started on housing in the western world... It is everything but ideal. Just look at the prices and the homelessness in the westen world.
Again, in Canada this wasn't an issue 20+ years ago.
> i would rather share a house with another family rather than to live on a street in a tent. In every weather condition.
Assuming you're not a drug addict, you would be eligible for social housing in most if not all western countries, which means you get a crap apartment but you don't have to share it with anyone.
Russia got cronyism instead of free market economy. It's even worse than late socialism. Don't forget about free and cheap staff. People love it.
USSR 2❤❤❤
why would they? current Russia is much more manageable. the military and security services have a tighter grip on everyday life than it did during communist rule.
If by Russians you mean Putin, then yes.
For average Russian civilians, who knows? Maybe some.
people missing USSR not because life back then was better, it’s because the country was stronger and more respected/feared, most importantly they were younger back then
Life back then was better
Going back to good ol' times of soviet union? Why stop there? Let's bring tsar back!
I was born under the "Iron Curtain", in Socialist Romania. The only ones who have a sort of "nostalgia" for those times are the Russians, and there are many of them; the problem is that their beliefs are based on lies: first of all, Russia was considered a "superpower" precisely because the Soviet Union was a collection of many states, there was not only Russia (which would never have been capable of alone). And the "well-being" of Russians during the socialist period was not well-being at all: they still had to queue in the cold outside shops for hours for bread, milk, potatoes... and the (few) economic benefits they had then rather than now they are due to the fact that the Russians took many resources for free (or almost free) from all the other socialist countries (sometimes it was outright theft). Those under 32 cannot know: they are not taught certain historical "subtleties" at school, nor obviously can books on the subject be published. But those over 40 are just poor disillusioned people if they really believe it
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медведи были медведицами. Джин исполнил.
Заяц. А я хочу себе самый быстрый мотоцикл. Джин исполнил.
Медведь загадывает второе желание. Я хочу что бы во всех лесах России все
медведи были медведицами. Джин исполнил.
Заяц. А я хочу себе самый модный шлем. Джин исполнил.
Медведь загадывает последнее желание. Я хочу что бы во всем мире все
медведи были медведицами. Джин исполнил.
Заяц садиться на мотоцикл, заводит его, газует и загадывает последнее
желание. Я хочу что бы медведь стал голубым
Неплохо, но как это связано с видео?
This is also true for Venezuelans who remember the fantastical 4th Republic (1958-1999) vs Venezuela today.
Vzla was a regional power with first-world luxuries like good healthcare, education, etc, but most don’t remember the racism, classism, etc.
No hope in going to the past come to the loving savior today
Seek his Holy Spirit in prayer today he can give you peace confort and guidance today
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Come to Jesus Christ today
Jesus Christ is only way to heaven
Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void
Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today
Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today
John 3:16-21
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Mark 1.15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Hebrews 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Jesus
Yea but Venezuela was actually rich back then and got much worse this is like people in the future missing current Venezuela.
😂
Lol, Soviet Union 2.0 is the United States 20 years later.
Like who want USSR back
🤮 communism sucks
EQUALITY IN THE SOCIETY THAT WAS THE GOOD IDEA OF SOCIALISM
Short answer: yes
Long answer: YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
daily life in the USSR doens't look bad if you ask me.
So you never lived in socialistic state...
Tell me you know nothing about the horrors of the USSR without telling (I'm half georgian and i was terrified by what my grandmother and mother said)
@@xsc1000 I want to.
@@lolexplosions4214 You can. Cuba or North Korea will welcome you :-)
And it wasn't. 😂 I was happy there.
USA fails to shrink back without bloodshed... USSR did disintegrate without it... take their example
nah, it definitely wasn't bloodless
@@nuffsaid0 yes.. that was my second thought.. Russia was too week and lost much historical territorries and now they seem to want to correct it...
Chechnya, Georgia and Ukraine disagree
Я первый
no way!
Брат
I feel like if the Soviet union had lasted another 20 years it could have fixed quite a few of it's problems with technology
Some East Germans I talked about the changes since communism fell told me that under communism, they had stability and that everyone was equal. But they did like the freedom since.
Maybe do a video on how the old countries associated with the Soviet Union how they just started their own governments? Don’t know how that happened?