If You put a few drops of gasoline through the sparkplug port and the engines fires but only runs for a second the problem is fuel starvation....95% of the time it is the pickup jet inside the carburetor bowl, flip the genny so it stands on the 2 rubber feet at the rear and unscrew the carburetor bowl with a 10mm socket or wrench....Once the bowl is off You will see a tiny brass jet....carefully unscrew the jet and clean it out with a thin wire....these jets builds up scale and a rubbery residue over night......Put it back and You will be in business....Don't muck about with sparkplugs ( gap is .020) and coils and so on , just fix the jet and You will be OK!
Think I may need to do that with mine. I use it only a few times a year when we go camping. I accidentally left fuel in it and haven't started it since the summer. Tried starting it recently, wouldn't fire up. Fuel probably gummed up the jet.
I agree with your analysis that the cold and altitude were the likely causes of the start / run problems for several reasons involving fuel flow, combustion, and air density. I think spark plug is least likely issue. Years ago I read that spark plugs on magneto systems rarely wear out. Most of my engines have their original plugs; some are 40 years old.
I have the red and black one that was sold a couple of years ago. Mine is difficult to start if the engine is cold. The real problem is a two cycle engine doesn't create a whole lot of vacuum and it has an updraft carburetor. After pulling it 8 to 15 times on choke, mine starts up and runs great. It starts on the first or second pull the rest of the day. I've heard people changing the spark plug first thing. I've done nothing to mine except look and see if the choke was working properly. I'm really considering a primer of some sort for the carburetor.
I took off my pull cover. I use a socket on a drill and start it that way. A year ago mine kept dying. I changed the coil and lead spark plug wire. Apparently, they go bad probably due to heat on top of the engine. I wrapped my spark plug wire in foil insulating mating before reassembly. I've had mine for years and still runs after that wire changeout.
I wore out my little Genny too- I didn't keep her clean & lubricated, so I kicked her to the curb. A strange old man with white hair & an Ahab beard came in the middle of the night and took her away. I heard he likes to fix stuff on that UA-cam thing.
#1 I keep a pair of extra plugs. New Plugs #2 I had a problem with the coil. (Cheep chines coil) Swapping to a "v" power coil. Worked verry good. #3 autolite plugs work well for me. #4 I set mine near the heat stove. (Not too close) . And she's ready to go.
What is a V power coil? My coil just died today after running it for 20 minutes.... Tried starting fluid and new gas and so forth. Not even a sputter...
My dad gave me one a while back. I tried once and couldn't get it to start. I don't think it has a lot of run time. I guess I'll go out and fool with it since the snow is stopping everything else.
I just bought one used. Started right up. I put in clean fuel. I checked the voltage and it was 139. I'm trying to bring that down. I wouldn't use it on any electronics.
wow that is some good advice, i would have used a impact but now i will use a drill, if the string breaks, Thanks! my tailgator generator wont start when i pull start it, when i spray starting fluid in the carb it starts up for 2 seconds then dies, what do you think is the problem?
Fuel filter could be dirty its in the gas tank, carburetor and jets could need cleaned and blown out. The fuel filter in the gas tank. You access it by draining the tank. Take it off the unit, remove the fuel shut off valve. The filter is attached to the top of the valve. Its easy to clean with carburetor cleaner. I would check this first. Mine was filthy...Good luck !
Got it loose and now when you crank it and plug a grinder up to it won't open the govener up,can open Governor with my fingers and it works, when you plug up something grinder runs slow and governor don't see what is plugged up ....
I just bought one of these today. Went to the auto parts store immediately to get an NGK plug. Crazy thing is the plug that's in it is a Torch F7TC and the manual says it takes an F5TC. NGK BP7ES and BP5ES respectively. So...what the heck do I put in it? 5 or 7? Any suggestions?
I have a tailgator generator to it did work great at one point in time but I've had it for about almost 2yrs. Now the plugin outlet stopped working does anyone know how to fix that oh n its hella louder now then it was when I got it how do I make it quite
Mine did the no power thing once. I was able to reset the red button and it started working. You probably already tried that, but if not it's worth a try. IDK about the loudness, maybe someone else will chime in. Good luck!
Have a stormcat 63 cc plug in angle grinder govener won't pick up grinder runs slow can take my finger and push governor open runs fine just won't open by itself, any clues ???????
I’m put mine in the junk pile, if it is that hard to start, needs that much maintenance it’s not worth it to me if it’s something you rely on in a pinch. Get what you pay for. Great video
I purchased the same unit in July 2019. Used it for one summer event to run two box fans. The generator started right up, no issues the next day and it ran 6 to 8 hours with no problems. I turned the fuel off and let it run till it ran out of fuel. Left it sit a couple of months and then wanted ot start it again due to the "start every three months" warning sticker. Attempted to start and nothing. Removed the plug, poured a little fuel in ontop of the piston, reinstalled plug and it started right up and had no issues. Turned fuel off to let it run out and shut down. Left is sit another month, tried to start again and nothing. Purchased an NGK plug as others suggested, attempted to start, and nothing. Remived plug, it was wet, had spark, but no start. Again, primed the top of the piston with fuel and it started up and ran with no issues. What am I missing here? I wish I didn't have to remve the plug to add fuel and as mentioned to get it running. Many thanks in advance.
Just to make sure I'm not overlooking anything, did you remember to flip the choke lever? If so it sounds like it could be air/fuel related problem. You might have a pinched fuel line or restriction in the carb jets.
@@kkrankie So, in an effort to try all that I could, I purchased a can of pre-mix 50:1 from Lowes. I poured that in the tank and it started right up! Retested a few days later, and it started up without issues. I have used the same fuel that I mixed in my trimmer and it worked fine, no start up issues, so it's quite the puzzle since the generator does not like it.
Run Echo Red Armor two cycle oil at 50:1 to get rid of dirty spark plugs. I used to run Stihl Ultra at 40:1 but I have switched over to Red Armor. That Ultra is filthy - to much ash component. I will never run a two cycle oil that is not JASO FD rated, again. None of my two cycle engines smoke like a coal fired locomotive, any more.
Those torch plugs are absolute junk literally every chinese engine that has one will quit running because the failed ive seen them fail in under 5 minutes (thats no exaggeration ) ive seen them last about 80 hours as well in 4 stroke engines the 80 hour plug was in a pressure washer since this happened I immediately change the plugs when i buy an engine the last chinese plug that failed on me was actually in a minibike i had to push it home after getting the bike home and changing the plug there was no visble signs of running rich or lean no ecessive oil or anything to alert me to other problems leading to the failure so i determined that the plug failed due to low quality materials used in manufacturing
thank you for taking the time to put up a informative and well explained video
If You put a few drops of gasoline through the sparkplug port and the engines fires but only runs for a second the problem is fuel starvation....95% of the time it is the pickup jet inside the carburetor bowl, flip the genny so it stands on the 2 rubber feet at the rear and unscrew the carburetor bowl with a 10mm socket or wrench....Once the bowl is off You will see a tiny brass jet....carefully unscrew the jet and clean it out with a thin wire....these jets builds up scale and a rubbery residue over night......Put it back and You will be in business....Don't muck about with sparkplugs ( gap is .020) and coils and so on , just fix the jet and You will be OK!
Think I may need to do that with mine. I use it only a few times a year when we go camping. I accidentally left fuel in it and haven't started it since the summer. Tried starting it recently, wouldn't fire up. Fuel probably gummed up the jet.
It's more than likely that the new foam you used in the air filter has caused the fuel mixture to be over rich and foul the spark plug.
I agree with your analysis that the cold and altitude were the likely causes of the start / run problems for several reasons involving fuel flow, combustion, and air density. I think spark plug is least likely issue. Years ago I read that spark plugs on magneto systems rarely wear out. Most of my engines have their original plugs; some are 40 years old.
I always bring along a can of starting fluid it makes it alot easier to start. Especially when its cold out.
Thanks for making this so easy!
I have the red and black one that was sold a couple of years ago. Mine is difficult to start if the engine is cold. The real problem is a two cycle engine doesn't create a whole lot of vacuum and it has an updraft carburetor. After pulling it 8 to 15 times on choke, mine starts up and runs great. It starts on the first or second pull the rest of the day. I've heard people changing the spark plug first thing. I've done nothing to mine except look and see if the choke was working properly. I'm really considering a primer of some sort for the carburetor.
I took off my pull cover. I use a socket on a drill and start it that way. A year ago mine kept dying. I changed the coil and lead spark plug wire. Apparently, they go bad probably due to heat on top of the engine. I wrapped my spark plug wire in foil insulating mating before reassembly. I've had mine for years and still runs after that wire changeout.
Great tips, thanks!
I removed my card as soon as I brought it home. Drilled the hole and use a drill to start it whenever I need it. I love it that way.
I've had mine for 5 yrs and it's run perfectly have never had a issue with it other than change the plug very happy with it . Tailgator
I wore out my little Genny too-
I didn't keep her clean & lubricated,
so I kicked her to the curb.
A strange old man with white hair & an Ahab beard
came in the middle of the night and took her away.
I heard he likes to fix stuff on that UA-cam thing.
LOL
#1 I keep a pair of extra plugs. New Plugs #2 I had a problem with the coil. (Cheep chines coil) Swapping to a "v" power coil. Worked verry good. #3 autolite plugs work well for me. #4 I set mine near the heat stove. (Not too close) . And she's ready to go.
Great advise, thanks!
What is a V power coil? My coil just died today after running it for 20 minutes.... Tried starting fluid and new gas and so forth. Not even a sputter...
These are decent units provided one does maintenance. Not the highest quality, but they are only $90. Good value.
Yes indeed. Mine is great for small loads and it's so much quieter than my big genny.
Just store it was some fuel stabilizer as you should do with any engine. Pour in, run for a minute and store.
What should I do? Where you plug in the extension cord is giving me issue's..
Mine was brand new and I kept it in a secluded area but it will not start used to run good but not now mixed the fuel right change plug
Maybe put a gasket on the air box cover to prevent some of the dust you are seeing near the carb?
Mines brand new, never got it to run. Put it on a shelf for about 4 years. Now im considering breaking it out.
My dad gave me one a while back. I tried once and couldn't get it to start. I don't think it has a lot of run time. I guess I'll go out and fool with it since the snow is stopping everything else.
I just bought one used. Started right up. I put in clean fuel. I checked the voltage and it was 139. I'm trying to bring that down. I wouldn't use it on any electronics.
First or second time using i left the engine switch on and i fell asleep, is this a problem??
wow that is some good advice, i would have used a impact but now i will use a drill, if the string breaks, Thanks! my tailgator generator wont start when i pull start it, when i spray starting fluid in the carb it starts up for 2 seconds then dies, what do you think is the problem?
Could be a fuel problem. Maybe old fuel or carb blockage.
Fuel filter could be dirty its in the gas tank, carburetor and jets could need cleaned and blown out. The fuel filter in the gas tank. You access it by draining the tank. Take it off the unit, remove the fuel shut off valve. The filter is attached to the top of the valve. Its easy to clean with carburetor cleaner. I would check this first. Mine was filthy...Good luck !
Got it loose and now when you crank it and plug a grinder up to it won't open the govener up,can open Governor with my fingers and it works, when you plug up something grinder runs slow and governor don't see what is plugged up ....
I have a tailgater and it does too on me I can't start it so what do I do
I just bought one of these today. Went to the auto parts store
immediately to get an NGK plug. Crazy thing is the plug that's in it is a
Torch F7TC and the manual says it takes an F5TC. NGK BP7ES and BP5ES
respectively. So...what the heck do I put in it? 5 or 7? Any
suggestions?
I'd go with the 7 since that's what you pulled out. These were made in 2 different factories, that's probably what's going on there. Good luck!
I have a tailgator generator to it did work great at one point in time but I've had it for about almost 2yrs. Now the plugin outlet stopped working does anyone know how to fix that oh n its hella louder now then it was when I got it how do I make it quite
Mine did the no power thing once. I was able to reset the red button and it started working. You probably already tried that, but if not it's worth a try. IDK about the loudness, maybe someone else will chime in. Good luck!
Have a stormcat 63 cc plug in angle grinder govener won't pick up grinder runs slow can take my finger and push governor open runs fine just won't open by itself, any clues ???????
Hmm is there a missing spring for the gov linkage?
Sir is it possible that you can show a video on how to change the motor oil on this unit? Thank you.
Biosintech67😂
No sump mate just petrol 2 stroke oil mix directly in the fuel tank!
There's no motor oil in it
SOLD!
I’m put mine in the junk pile, if it is that hard to start, needs that much maintenance it’s not worth it to me if it’s something you rely on in a pinch. Get what you pay for. Great video
Hey, got it started. It’s back in garage.
I desperately need one! Hell don't toss it send it to me!! I'll put in the work!! But I do get what ur saying here!!
GREAT
what do you do when you have no spark. tried changing the spark plug and still no spark?
Next check the plug wire as they are known to be a weak link. If that doesn't fix it try the coil.
Thanks
I purchased the same unit in July 2019. Used it for one summer event to run two box fans. The generator started right up, no issues the next day and it ran 6 to 8 hours with no problems. I turned the fuel off and let it run till it ran out of fuel. Left it sit a couple of months and then wanted ot start it again due to the "start every three months" warning sticker. Attempted to start and nothing. Removed the plug, poured a little fuel in ontop of the piston, reinstalled plug and it started right up and had no issues. Turned fuel off to let it run out and shut down. Left is sit another month, tried to start again and nothing. Purchased an NGK plug as others suggested, attempted to start, and nothing. Remived plug, it was wet, had spark, but no start. Again, primed the top of the piston with fuel and it started up and ran with no issues. What am I missing here? I wish I didn't have to remve the plug to add fuel and as mentioned to get it running. Many thanks in advance.
Just to make sure I'm not overlooking anything, did you remember to flip the choke lever? If so it sounds like it could be air/fuel related problem. You might have a pinched fuel line or restriction in the carb jets.
@@TheHandsOnChannel , Yes, the choke was activated. I'll check the fuel line issue. Thank you.
Dont run the generator with the fuel off. The only lubrication the crank and piston get is the oil in the gas. You're causing premature wear.
Doug Lingenfelter get a small can of starting fluid (ether). A blast into the intake shell fire right up and stay running
@@kkrankie So, in an effort to try all that I could, I purchased a can of pre-mix 50:1 from Lowes. I poured that in the tank and it started right up! Retested a few days later, and it started up without issues. I have used the same fuel that I mixed in my trimmer and it worked fine, no start up issues, so it's quite the puzzle since the generator does not like it.
Were is the primer at 11:48
Hello Friend! I'm trying to figure out how to change the motor oil on this Generator. If you know please make a video on it. Thanks
This doesn't have oil to change like a four stroke. With two stroke engines you mix the oil into the gas and that's all you have to do.
Its 2 cycle. You mix 2 cycle oil in the gas. 50:1 racial.
“I’m not gonna show how to clean the air filter but I’ll spend 20 mins showing you how to lube a pull string”
😆 do you need to be shown how to clean a foam air filter?
Short and sweet, generator is junk
Mine still works fine but thanks.
They are good. Cheap and simple to fix
Got one pure JUNK
I have probably 500 hours on mine, are you letting your fuel set too long. The only troubles I've had were old fuel related.
youll crack the flywheel doing that..........DONT
Doing what, using a drill to start?
No you won't, using an impact will but the drill will not.
@@glenwagaman9103 you're right, I found out the hard way. Used an impact and broke the flywheel in two pieces
Run Echo Red Armor two cycle oil at 50:1 to get rid of dirty spark plugs. I used to run Stihl Ultra at 40:1 but I have switched over to Red Armor. That Ultra is filthy - to much ash component. I will never run a two cycle oil that is not JASO FD rated, again. None of my two cycle engines smoke like a coal fired locomotive, any more.
What the fuck
Those torch plugs are absolute junk literally every chinese engine that has one will quit running because the failed ive seen them fail in under 5 minutes (thats no exaggeration ) ive seen them last about 80 hours as well in 4 stroke engines the 80 hour plug was in a pressure washer since this happened
I immediately change the plugs when i buy an engine the last chinese plug that failed on me was actually in a minibike i had to push it home after getting the bike home and changing the plug there was no visble signs of running rich or lean no ecessive oil or anything to alert me to other problems leading to the failure so i determined that the plug failed due to low quality materials used in manufacturing
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