Thank you, I would really like to try and express how grateful I am to everyone involved in putting this video(s) out for free on UA-cam. Very helpful, very informative, explains it great. I have a little bit of knowledge as a glorified labor for general contractors. So I'm basically a novice. I was able to understand and follow. Thank you again, information has been fantastic. This is the first place I go to check if I have a question about something to do with home repair or alteration.
Density of the mortar is always the question. Would like to have seen you put the trowel in the mix so I can see how thick the mortar is when it is ready.
@@chrisg0001 Manufacturers direction are usually for a whole bag and are deliberately vague. If you are not mixing up a whole bag (this would be most amateurs), trying to figure out how thick the thinset should be takes a lot of guess work when you have never tiled before. My determining factor is if you put the thinset down and run your notched trowel through it and it holds the shape, it should be ok, unless its too dry. Of course, this also depends on the kind of thinset and type of tile you are using. What he did in this video would be way too wet for the floor tiles I'm putting in.
Thank you, Shannon! I have watched this & another of ur tiling videos prior to doing every tiling project I have ever done. I really appreciate u sharing ur wisdom which gives me the confidence and details I need.
It’s terrible instruction; go see Sal’s for a proper explanation. He’s mixing Mapsi unmodified (likely Kerdibond T). You have to follow proportions and instructions. If you want a half bag of mortar mixed up, buy two 2 gallon pails to split the bag and measure properly (I put a sharpie line on one of the small small pails so next time I can always just pour out an exact half bag); this guy just dumped a random amount out of the bag. Measure the exact amount of water (3.2 litres for 1/2 bag) and use cold water; add all water to mixing bucket first. Pour measured mix into cold water. Wear a friggin mask; concrete dust will destroy your lungs. Mix for FIVE minutes; do not skimp on time as you’re triggering a chemical reaction. Do not randomly add more water; you will weaken the mortar. Let it slake (stand) for TEN minutes, not the ‘couple’ mentioned. Remix for a full two minutes; now ready to go. Do not ‘eyeball’ consistency and randomly add water, additives or mix; each mortar type and application can be slightly different. In short, read and follow the instructions; they are simple and there for a reason.
I am sure you are a very capable guy, with great skill and you give a lot of good info on your channel, I have seen many of them over time. You did however really miss the mark on this one.
@@shannond2707 If you read the bag of mortar, you will see that it has very specific instructions on how it should be mixed. It is very important to follow the ratio of water, or additive to the amount of powder to achieve the properties that were designed into that specific thinset. They can vary greatly, most will have an initial mixing time and a slake time and a final mix. these times are not all the same, some will not require slaking. If partial bags are to be mixed, it is best to measure the quantity of powder and then add the proper ratio of water, usually half bag with half the water, some mortars will give the ratio of water to powder on the bag to facilitate mixing small quantities to properly. The kind of paddle will also make a big difference to the final strength of the mortar. Yours was just whipping a ton of air into the mortar something you don't want. Mixing it correctly will give you the pot life, open time and properties that were designed into the mortar. Look up ANSI A118.1, A118.4, A118.11, and A118.15 for the basic types of Dry Set Mortar. Some will have a T appended, which stands for Thixotropic, these are no sag mortars, E for extended open time, and F fro fast setting. The ratio of water on many of these mortar will have a range for achieving certain properties that the mortar was designed to have. There is a lot of Chemistry in modern mortars, they need to be mixed properly to have the benefits.
@@SalDiBlasi according to this guy I have to go to University of Canada (sic) and earn a Masters Degree in Chemistry to freaking mix a gallon of thin set mortar hahaha what a balongy. Great job Shannon-keep up the vids.
Shannon can you make a video on parging an exterior foundation wall.? There are no good videos on this subject. Many homes have cracked parging that falls off. There must be the right way.
Hi there, I mixed my thinset the same way you described here, but after 48 hours some of the tiles were coming off and the thinset was still a bit moist. Do you think I should have given it more time to cure considering it was in the basement room where the temperatures are around 67 degrees? Thanks!
Did you follow the directions on the package? Was this for a wall or a floor? Were you using the right type of thinset for the size and type of tile you were using? Did you back butter the tiles? A lot of pros say you don't need to do this, but if you are not a pro, you probably should.It's not going to hurt and it doesn't take that much time.
So I’m working on tiling my laundry room. The subfloor is plywood. The installation instructions for the hardie backer board says I was supposed to use a polymer additive to mix the mortar for the supporting bed of the Hardie Backer board and I accidentally used unmodified (just mixed it with water) how big of a problem will this present in the future? The space I’m working on is 6’x6’.
IMO you will be fine as long as you did not have a real dry mix or if you wiped the wood and cement with a sponge before adding mortar. Most good quality unmodified products will do the job.
Fyi, use a taller bucket and a drywall mud paddle, it's about 4 in diameter, way less messy, and you have to mix, let sit 10 minutes(slake), then remix to avoid lock up in the bucket.
Love this video. I started laughing and could not stop when he said he was going to get some thin set on his shoes...and he did!. Then the paddle came loose from the drill chuck and I was fully expecting Moe Larry or Curly to walk into the room. Now this man's intention in making this video was honorable no doubt but there comes a time when instructions should, well, be better left to instructors. How much thin set was in the bucket???????????? and how much water?????????? was introduced to attain the required and desired viscosity for proper adhesion. Now it is not necessary to be perfect but measuring the water content to the approx. product will give you a gauge for your next and succeeding batches. I am going to give this a thumbs up because for the effort and time this man invested when he could have been sleeping on his sofa helping no one. I made the joke because there is not much to laugh about in our nation anymore not to demean this gentleman.
I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong but every time I mix thinset I fallow the instructions but it always hardens in my bucket within maybe 5 or 6 minutes after mixing it. The same thing happened to me the last time I mixed grout as well.
Well it will start to set up after a while but its usually at least an hour working time for mixed products. Maybe you used hot water? not sure how much difference that would make but you want cold clean water. Are you using drinking water or well water? Please come to the forum and we can try and figure this out. www.house-improvements.com/forums/
HouseImprovements thank you for your reply. I’m using cold drinking water from my tap. I usually add the recommended amount of water then I mix with a hand drill and a paddle because I don’t have a large mixing drill. I’ll wait about 5 minutes then mix a little more. Then usually before I can get situated in my work space the mortar is hard as a rock in my bucket 😂 I’m not sure what’s happening.
@@dronthetrack4835 you are waiting 5 min before adding a little bit of water each time. add the water, mix three seconds later. you are taking 45 min to mix a bucket of mud.
Yep, just watched the video and my morter looks like soup in comparison. This is why research is important b4 tackling DIY projects *face palm* at least I know what not to do.
I believe we were told that the manufacturer gives the ratio on the package. So, figure out how much mortar you need, thus how much water you will need, and then put 3/4 of THAT amount into the bucket.
It seems as if you totally disregarded the manufacturers mixing instructions. There is no way you could have got the water to mortar ratio correct because you don't know how much of each one you even used. Then you only mixed it a minute and a half instead of 5 minutes like it requires and then you said to let it slake for a couple minutes. The slaking process is very important and it requires ten minutes. A couple minutes would be sufficient for the final mix but you gave it about 15 seconds. If you are going to take on the role of a teacher in a tutorial video you should probably put some effort into getting it right.
He literally explained it in the video. Obviously he's not going to show you him standing around doing nothing for 10 minutes. Its called editing and brevity. If you still can't understand that then you're a moron.
Thank you, I would really like to try and express how grateful I am to everyone involved in putting this video(s) out for free on UA-cam. Very helpful, very informative, explains it great. I have a little bit of knowledge as a glorified labor for general contractors. So I'm basically a novice. I was able to understand and follow. Thank you again, information has been fantastic. This is the first place I go to check if I have a question about something to do with home repair or alteration.
Most grateful for your tutorial ! You learn something new everyday 👍
That's exactly how I figured out! Thank you, good to know Im in the right direction
Some how you keep making videos about projects I am about to start doing. Thanks for the knowledge, Shannon. I appreciate the thorough breakdowns.
I appreciate how you are comfortable with making mistakes, just like every DIYer has. Thank you.
Density of the mortar is always the question. Would like to have seen you put the trowel in the mix so I can see how thick the mortar is when it is ready.
Yea, it helps trying the mortar with something else to see how thin it is
Or you could just read the manufacturers' directions and you'll get it right every time
@@chrisg0001 Manufacturers direction are usually for a whole bag and are deliberately vague. If you are not mixing up a whole bag (this would be most amateurs), trying to figure out how thick the thinset should be takes a lot of guess work when you have never tiled before. My determining factor is if you put the thinset down and run your notched trowel through it and it holds the shape, it should be ok, unless its too dry. Of course, this also depends on the kind of thinset and type of tile you are using. What he did in this video would be way too wet for the floor tiles I'm putting in.
Perfect Mix. I will always use this video as a reference...
Maybe for what he was doing with it, but way too wet for the large format tiles I've been putting in.
Thanks for the video, helpful for the first time mixing
Thank you for your time and consideration 🙏
Good video question is do you rinse your bucket out or clean it before mixing another batch of thin-set thank you for your reply
I just scrape out the excess left behind and mix new batch .
Thank you, Shannon! I have watched this & another of ur tiling videos prior to doing every tiling project I have ever done. I really appreciate u sharing ur wisdom which gives me the confidence and details I need.
You are so welcome!
This guy is simply the best explaining things, and does the best job always. No one comes close.
It’s terrible instruction; go see Sal’s for a proper explanation.
He’s mixing Mapsi unmodified (likely Kerdibond T).
You have to follow proportions and instructions.
If you want a half bag of mortar mixed up, buy two 2 gallon pails to split the bag and measure properly (I put a sharpie line on one of the small small pails so next time I can always just pour out an exact half bag); this guy just dumped a random amount out of the bag.
Measure the exact amount of water (3.2 litres for 1/2 bag) and use cold water; add all water to mixing bucket first.
Pour measured mix into cold water.
Wear a friggin mask; concrete dust will destroy your lungs.
Mix for FIVE minutes; do not skimp on time as you’re triggering a chemical reaction.
Do not randomly add more water; you will weaken the mortar.
Let it slake (stand) for TEN minutes, not the ‘couple’ mentioned.
Remix for a full two minutes; now ready to go.
Do not ‘eyeball’ consistency and randomly add water, additives or mix; each mortar type and application can be slightly different.
In short, read and follow the instructions; they are simple and there for a reason.
Great video and great information
Let's support this channel in return to their effort. Please don't skip the ads. Thank you for the video.
Yes, thank you
Why shouldn't we skip adds? Honest question, how does this help who?
Thanks for this valuable info!
Always good instruction!
Best video aboat mixing, thanks.
Glad you think so!
Thank you for the video.
I am sure you are a very capable guy, with great skill and you give a lot of good info on your channel, I have seen many of them over time. You did however really miss the mark on this one.
It doesn't help if you don't explain how he missed the mark.
@@shannond2707 If you read the bag of mortar, you will see that it has very specific instructions on how it should be mixed. It is very important to follow the ratio of water, or additive to the amount of powder to achieve the properties that were designed into that specific thinset. They can vary greatly, most will have an initial mixing time and a slake time and a final mix. these times are not all the same, some will not require slaking. If partial bags are to be mixed, it is best to measure the quantity of powder and then add the proper ratio of water, usually half bag with half the water, some mortars will give the ratio of water to powder on the bag to facilitate mixing small quantities to properly. The kind of paddle will also make a big difference to the final strength of the mortar. Yours was just whipping a ton of air into the mortar something you don't want. Mixing it correctly will give you the pot life, open time and properties that were designed into the mortar. Look up ANSI A118.1, A118.4, A118.11, and A118.15 for the basic types of Dry Set Mortar. Some will have a T appended, which stands for Thixotropic, these are no sag mortars, E for extended open time, and F fro fast setting. The ratio of water on many of these mortar will have a range for achieving certain properties that the mortar was designed to have. There is a lot of Chemistry in modern mortars, they need to be mixed properly to have the benefits.
@@SalDiBlasi Ah, that's more helpful.
@@SalDiBlasi according to this guy I have to go to University of Canada (sic) and earn a Masters Degree in Chemistry to freaking mix a gallon of thin set mortar hahaha what a balongy. Great job Shannon-keep up the vids.
@@JohnDoe-jq3qf Or just read the directions on every bag of mortar. no degree required.
Very good honest video
You are amazing thank you
Great video, helps a lot. THANKS.
Can thinset be used on a ceramic fireplace hearth?
Good video thank you.
Shannon can you make a video on parging an exterior foundation wall.? There are no good videos on this subject. Many homes have cracked parging that falls off. There must be the right way.
i have that isssue
I have that around the perimeter of my house where it meets the slab.
Hi there, I mixed my thinset the same way you described here, but after 48 hours some of the tiles were coming off and the thinset was still a bit moist. Do you think I should have given it more time to cure considering it was in the basement room where the temperatures are around 67 degrees? Thanks!
Did you follow the directions on the package? Was this for a wall or a floor? Were you using the right type of thinset for the size and type of tile you were using? Did you back butter the tiles? A lot of pros say you don't need to do this, but if you are not a pro, you probably should.It's not going to hurt and it doesn't take that much time.
So I’m working on tiling my laundry room. The subfloor is plywood. The installation instructions for the hardie backer board says I was supposed to use a polymer additive to mix the mortar for the supporting bed of the Hardie Backer board and I accidentally used unmodified (just mixed it with water) how big of a problem will this present in the future? The space I’m working on is 6’x6’.
IMO you will be fine as long as you did not have a real dry mix or if you wiped the wood and cement with a sponge before adding mortar. Most good quality unmodified products will do the job.
HouseImprovements thank you Shannon I greatly appreciate you quick response. And we really appreciate what you do for the DIY community.
Fyi, use a taller bucket and a drywall mud paddle, it's about 4 in diameter, way less messy, and you have to mix, let sit 10 minutes(slake), then remix to avoid lock up in the bucket.
Ukuran besar pengaduknya apakah disesuaikan dengan daya pada bor listriknya. Terima kasih sudah berbagi pengetahuan. Semoga selalu sukses.
Do mortar thinset expires? And how long
if kept dry and properly stored you should be ok. If in doubt check with the manufacture.
Check to see if your drill has a little knob on the trigger. That makes it much more easier to control the speed of the drill.
Love this video. I started laughing and could not stop when he said he was going to get some thin set on his shoes...and he did!. Then the paddle came loose from the drill chuck and I was fully expecting Moe Larry or Curly to walk into the room. Now this man's intention in making this video was honorable no doubt but there comes a time when instructions should, well, be better left to instructors. How much thin set was in the bucket???????????? and how much water?????????? was introduced to attain the required and desired viscosity for proper adhesion. Now it is not necessary to be perfect but measuring the water content to the approx. product will give you a gauge for your next and succeeding batches.
I am going to give this a thumbs up because for the effort and time this man invested when he could have been sleeping on his sofa helping no one. I made the joke because there is not much to laugh about in our nation anymore not to demean this gentleman.
How do you store mixed tile cement overnight? In case you mixed too much and you want to use next day.
it wont last that long, toss it .
Only mix up what you need or can use.
Treat mortar like milk
@@TheBanjoShowOfficialI’m not dipping my cookies in mortar- idc WHAT you say!!
I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong but every time I mix thinset I fallow the instructions but it always hardens in my bucket within maybe 5 or 6 minutes after mixing it. The same thing happened to me the last time I mixed grout as well.
Well it will start to set up after a while but its usually at least an hour working time for mixed products. Maybe you used hot water? not sure how much difference that would make but you want cold clean water. Are you using drinking water or well water? Please come to the forum and we can try and figure this out. www.house-improvements.com/forums/
HouseImprovements thank you for your reply. I’m using cold drinking water from my tap. I usually add the recommended amount of water then I mix with a hand drill and a paddle because I don’t have a large mixing drill. I’ll wait about 5 minutes then mix a little more. Then usually before I can get situated in my work space the mortar is hard as a rock in my bucket 😂 I’m not sure what’s happening.
@@dronthetrack4835 you are waiting 5 min before adding a little bit of water each time. add the water, mix three seconds later. you are taking 45 min to mix a bucket of mud.
Somethings in your water
Thank you!
Can you mix mortar with cement?
Yep, just watched the video and my morter looks like soup in comparison. This is why research is important b4 tackling DIY projects *face palm* at least I know what not to do.
Lol mr Fixit nuh.
Oops
Oh that's not enough
Got some on my shoes.
Lol hahaha
Gavachos man.
which is best modified or non modified thin set
the type really depends on what you are going over. and what you are sticking down.go with what is recommended by the manufacture of those two things.
HouseImprovements can you place thin set on top of concrete mortar if your needing to even out shower pan?
Thanks again
How do i mix by hand
A lot longer
Thankyou.
More confuse than before... 3/4 of how much?
I believe we were told that the manufacturer gives the ratio on the package. So, figure out how much mortar you need, thus how much water you will need, and then put 3/4 of THAT amount into the bucket.
Thinset needs shoes too sometimes :)
I don't understand how to clean thinset up. You can't rinse anything in any sink or shower. I ruined my kitchen sink pipes that way.
scrape off excess into garbage and then use garden hose outside or car wash
Do i have to do it with an untightened paddle first?.......jk..
It seems as if you totally disregarded the manufacturers mixing instructions. There is no way you could have got the water to mortar ratio correct because you don't know how much of each one you even used. Then you only mixed it a minute and a half instead of 5 minutes like it requires and then you said to let it slake for a couple minutes. The slaking process is very important and it requires ten minutes. A couple minutes would be sufficient for the final mix but you gave it about 15 seconds. If you are going to take on the role of a teacher in a tutorial video you should probably put some effort into getting it right.
He literally explained it in the video. Obviously he's not going to show you him standing around doing nothing for 10 minutes. Its called editing and brevity. If you still can't understand that then you're a moron.
slapstick
how to fuck up your shoes
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U need some help?