This journalist is amazing. So much personality. Love the way he talks with character. Where has he been all my life lol. I love this dude. Fantastic. Brilliant journalism.
Ordered my C450 and after that review am even more pumped. This is exactly what I want in a sports sedan. All the comfort and luxury that I've worked so hard all my life for with that kick ass performance that says, yeah, I can still drive like a 20 year old looking to race at a stop light
I just bought this car two weeks ago and couldn't be happier. Perfect combination of sport and luxury. The interior is flawless and the exhaust is pure awesomeness.
Good choice. My fam drives all benz. I’m China, US, Canada. My brother has the C63, luxury interior, but when you lightly tap the pedal, it doesn’t just jump, it FLIES! So all I’m saying is, I agree! At the end of the day, they did invent cars...
I have had my C450 for about 4 weeks now and just went over 1,000 miles. Your review is right on. I drive around town in Sport and on the highway in Eco (31 mpg). The car has a luxury interior that makes you feel good every time you get into it. I have the all season tires because I wanted to drive it in the winter. Great luxury driver with great performance when you want it.
I love it. This is exactly what I have been looking for. I am coming off of a highly modified Mustang and wanted my next vehicle to be luxurious and still have some teeth. Great review, thank you very much!
This review helped me make up my mind to buy this car and I love it. It certainly has personality, its fast and the road holding with the AWD set up is awesome. If you travel to the mountains or live in snowy place the AWD and all season tires mean you don't need to buy a separate set of winter wheels or, under most circumstances, use chains. The fold down back seats enables you to carry all your ski equipment inside the car. I've owned many BMWs and Mercedes, this C450 AMG Sport is an astonishing combination of fun, practicality and yes, value.... it looks good too. Thanks for the review.
The C450 AMG is beautiful, mine is almost 4 weeks old, Black exterior with Cranberry Red Leather. It goes like the wind, is fun to drive and an amazing car,,,EXCEPT. On January 19th we were driving to an appointment playing music on an SD card, driving in "Sport Plus" and all of a sudden the Command Screen went blank and the car was placed back into Comfort Mode. We pushed the button to get the screen back on but it didn't work. 2 or 3 minutes later the screen came on by it's self with the "AMG" welcome picture. Put the car back into "Sport Plus" and in a few minutes it happened again. This happened several times. We got to our destination shut down the car, got out, tried to lock the doors with the KeyFob, it wouldn't work. We locked the doors by touching the door handle. By the time we got back to the car it was fine. The Car has been at the Dealership since then, they have not been able to replicate the problem. I'm picking it up today and hoping for the best!! Seems to me this could be dangerous, who knows what else might shut down when going 80 on the Interstate.
That I cannot help you with. All I can say, is if it happens again, bring it back to the dealership and have them hook it up to the STS. If they can find anything the can create a PTSS case with MB to have it resolved.
+ljostarter I followed your advise. Since then we have had a "Check Engine" light, the Service Manager said it wasn't serious but I decided to have it towed into the Dealership. The first call from them said they couldn't find the problem and also they said they did see that I had driven it at 135 mph, like that was a problem? I never have driven it that fast, 85, is probably the fastest but hey, this is a C450 AMG, shouldn't it be able to go 135? Anyway, they called back and said the 135 was kph not mph and that they had found a loose hose going to some canister dealing with emissions. We have had a few error messages on the in yellow indicating something was wrong with the "Stopping Assist"?? and after the car is shut down and restarted it goes away. Now several weeks later I'm hearing a grinding in the rear end, only occasionally but a grinding just the same. This dealership won't find anything when I take it in, they will probably accuse me of driving in reverse at 50 mpg, who knows. I'm so sorry I bought this car, it's my 4th Benz and by far the worst. I'm very disappointed. It's a beautiful car, it does move like the wind, it sounds amazing, but I can't depend on it to go anywhere but to the grocery store or out to lunch. I have been in contact with MB in New Jersey but they are, at least at this point, not able to help!
Thanks for the review, thorough and engaging! Yes, this is exactly what I want to see from MB. Luxury shouldn't have to be bland, and sporty shouldn't have to be unrefined. An AWD luxury sport sedan that can do 0-60 in 4.x sec and also get 30mpg hwy is a winner! So now it's 335 M sport or C450...
i love my Mercedes c-350, 4M, it is the most amazing car I have ever driven, or owned. I like the c-63 but it's impractical for me as we are in a winter climate a lot ,and I need the 4M. I plan on getting a good used c-450 in a couple of years, as they are still untouchable for my budget . I hope my c-350 retains its value as I expect it to. thanks.
Great review as always! To your question, I think the C450 is a good balance between performance, style and value for money. It makes sense for those who want a C-Class that drives and looks sporty but don't want to go all the way or can't afford an C63. But I tend to believe that there is a place for a mid-level C-Class but without all the "sportiness" - and it was the C400. Not everyone who wants more performance in a C-Class would appreciate an exhaust burble or a red seatbelt. If Mercedes were to keep the C400 in its lineup while adding the C450, everyone would have her flavor. But I wouldn't fault Mercedes to ditch the C400 in favor of the C450 if only 1 can survive.
I love this, the W205 chassis is beautiful. I will say though, after owning a c300 for just over 6 months now.. I really long for a bigger engine :( So this c450/c43 is really where its at I think.
As A current BM owner, I am happy to see this type of sporty personality come into the Merc fold. The C450 AMG is definitely on my shopping list. Love the diamond grill, and I will have it in an Estate please.
This guy is everything that Seinfeld wants to be. top notch review! this car is amazing just on practicality alone ....it pretty much is a huge EFF You to everything else.
Very nice review. As to your questions, yes I think this is the personalty I want in my Mercedes. More to the point, I like having the option of this being my Mercedes. You never want your brand to pigeon hole your customers into a certain style. The more options you have the more potential customers you have. You said that in the past you had Mercedes (luxury), Audi (middle), and BMW (sporty). I am so glad this is not the case anymore. I want a sporty fast car but BMW has never done it for me. I can honestly say I have never done a double take to a BMW and said "wow". Of course this is personal preference but having the option to get the brand/look you want combined with type (sport/luxury) says great things about the market between these three companies. Likes: Pretty much everything. Specifically the exhaust note is fantastic. Love the fact that it holds your driver settings for four hours at a time. Dislikes: Not sure about the negative camber. Does it really add that much to performance? Tires are not cheap.. It looked like your tester did not have the AMG Sport seats but the standard sports seats. Were they nice? Did you get a chance to sit in one with the AMG Sport seats? I saw at 12:01 the ambient lighting on the center console. Was it nice? Probably not noticeable during the day. I can't say if I would change anything about the car since I have not driven one yet. A few cosmetic things I'd like to change (the back end of the whole C class lineup could use a tweak) but so far it looks like a great addition to the lineup.
+wsboxer1 So good timing of this . . . at the same time I drove that C450 AMG, I had a C63 s back in California so literally went from 'normal' Sport Seat - C450 - to the full on Sport Seat - C63s. Of course, I am going to say I prefer the full sport seat, but then again I am broken in that I like Lotus and cars with racing seats . . . Really depends on what you are doing with the car.
+MotoManTV Good to know. This would be a daily driver (for me anyway). I love a good sport seat as well but also would like it not to bounce my spine all over the place. Also it was really nice to hear you going in thinking that it would just be a little tuned up normal car so they could move AMG's. I was thinking the same thing and I am very glad you seem to think it is better then that.
+wsboxer1 Both style of seats are very nice. If you'll never consider a trackday than I'd save the extra money as the standard seats are more comfortable. The AMG seats are pretty darn comfortable given how they look; daily driver yes, long trip maybe. Ventilation has never been an option for the AMG seats, it was* for the sport seats, but they may have changed that. There's no way Mercedes puts a ton of camber in this car. It's a double-a-arm so it'll have dynamic camber gain through articulation. Even so, I'd imagine tire wear won't be an issue. More camber if you end up on the track, it'll probably suffer from copious amounts of understeer. I'm with you though, BMW is falling (or leveling out at least) while everyone else is improving their products in one way or another. Maybe BMW brought their new design a little early (2012-ish) and now the competition is new and fresh. My Lexus has better steering feel than the newer BMW's and Mercedes now has nicer interior styling. That's why MB, Audi, and Lexus will continue to be on my radar moving forward. The C450 sedan/coupe will absolutely be on the list come 2016 when I return my lease. Best of luck to you as well!
The personality is exactly why after 9 years, and 3 different Audis (D3 A8, D3 A8, C7 S6), we're switching to the C450 AMG Sport. Not only were we looking to downsize, but this thing is just bonkers good in terms of fun, function, and looks. The interior is still not as good as Audi in terms of design (and especially the MMI), but it makes up for that in pure charisma. The last week of January cannot come sooner.
It has been nothing but a joy thus far. I haven't experienced a hiccup in the driving, media interface, nor overall operation of the car. I still think that the Audi MMI is markedly better in terms of looks and operation, and I still think Audi offers a better interior in the B9 A/S4, but the C450 (now C43 AMG) is still a fine place to be.
Drove it last week, i was heading to an audi s4 or a bmw 435, beacuse i am more on the luxury sport side of cars.. but now I can tell since on top of sportiness, there is a refined touch in the interior, a suberbe motor (silky but performant as well), they got me,.. i think guys like me, professionnals in their 40's etc... migth be the mercedes the target audience. there is everything i like in a care, style, quality, performance, and a high quality sound system.. yahoo!
Yes yes yes. Looks great, sounds great and I want it! My lease is almost up on my current 2013 C so I'm excited to start looking again and now I know where I'm going to start!
Would you still buy it, if it was called C43 AMG ? I might sound stupid, but while C450 AMG 4Matic sounds like a nice compromise between C400 and C63, C43 AMG is pretty much the poor man's C63. Even if it is the exact same car.
Kaisuke971 i would still buy it. this is my first car. i am not looking for sth with 500 hp. and mine costs 76k cad. its not a poor man's car by any means
Yes I like it very much! First, IT'S A MERCEDES!! So beautiful, so well designed and built. But the idea of getting "personality" from a car is very enticing. Thank's for your great work.
YES! Neutrality in the suspension is something I've missed since my 97 c280. Was better handler then 04 clk500 or 13 c250. I can't wait to give it a drive.
I've driven this car for 3 months coming from an S4. It's fast but buttoned down to the point that it doesn't drive with the urgency and excitement of the Audi. Interior is great but the glove box is almost inaccessible from the driver's seat due to the angle of the box door. The wipers are cheap. Otherwise it's been great overall.
I love the quilted leather and the wood trim on the Designio model. So many of these 'sport line' cars have carbon fibre interior trim, which is not to my liking.
I like that personality of Mercedes because they still made cars like the sls amg, black series and the amg gt s. So it's not like they can't be sporty and luxurious because they have held them both in their heritage.
I owned a 2008 BMW 335i for 7 years before buying this car. 300HP/300FT-LB torque - good! Replaced the fuel pump, water pump and ignition coils all before 70K miles - bad! Switched to Mercedes hoping for better reliability. Bought the C450 since it is a perfect blend of performance, luxury and price within the $50k-$60k price range. (I negotiated price down to $50.5K from $56.5 list which included leather seats, LED Xenon lights and 19" wheels). Comparable cars considered were BMW 340i (less power, 2WD), Audi S4/S5 (less power), BMW M2 (less torque, too small), Mercedes CLA45 (4-banger noise), BMW M3/M4 and Mercedes C63 or even Lexus RC F (more expensive). Thank you Mercedes for stepping out of your comfort zone and finally creating car that can lead the sub $60K performance luxury car market.
So far so good. Not a single complaint after7 months of ownership. The most difficult part was waiting for the break in period before letting the car show its full power. The CLA45 is nice but still a 4 banger.
Certainly unusual car from a Mercedes (V6 twin-turbo AWD with a negative camber... sounds more like a rally car to me). I know it's not a full blown AMG (like most car enthusiasts would say), but still packs a punch... and those burbles and pops are addictive.
Absolutely love this car! I have a 2009 C300, which is the second Mercedes I've owned. Looking to buy my third very soon. The only reason I dislike this vid is because I can't afford it! I think I'm gonna have to stay within my budget and get the C400 :(
Do I remember? ssssssshhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiitttttttttt, my first memory of an interior trim was that particular wood from my father's Mercedes SE!Love the interior configuration! however, I'd go with something else for the exterior.Don't we all love the "Controlled MisFire!" Especially with big AMGs!yea I think there's a place for a mid-level thing ... luxurious yet packs a quite punch! it would be most welcomed in countries that taxes engine displacement or Emissions. a Full-AMG C63 might be a too expensive as a result while a Half-AMG C450 can pass without hefty taxes.plus, Mercedes could use a contender for the XE S, S4 & upcoming ATS Vsport & M340i segment.As always, Excellent episode M!
I’d just bought a c63s after I have had Porsche for last two decades. Carrera, Carerra S and GT3RS. Just need a break from Porsche. I really like the new Mercedes AMG line. I picked the C series due to its size. Not keen on driving a boat. As my brother gave me his 300SD a decade ago. I drove the diesel for five years time. It was a solid car family sedan. Although a bit big for me. Like the new Mercedes line. 🦅🦅🇺🇸
video from 3 days ago? ha! what a fluke I decided to look up the 450 again just now after waiting months. good video. Yes this car seems great! I like that there is a performance offering before having to spend a ton on the V8, (nvm gas for the beast). I mean, I would love a c63, but realistically this car is one I would actually buy.
I agree with what Mercedes is doing by making their cars more sporty and giving them more driving character / dynamics yet still keep the luxury and solidity that Mercedes is known for. To be unique with the luxury character, Mercedes should bring back the recirculating ball (RB) steering. Back in 1997, I purchased a C class and it had that steering and boy was it luxurious feeling...very distinctive buttery smooth steering. No one else had that--it made me feel uppercrust the minute I grab that steering wheel (eventhough I only drove the cheapest Mercedes!) Mercedes is about luxury first so bring that back!
I would agree with previous posters that this is the personality that I would like in a Mercedes. In fact, realistically you have to say that this car has 'multiple personalities', as you so well showed with your witty dialects. As I have posted here in the past, I really like the idea of adaptive dampers, as, with the adjustments to steering, throttle mapping, and e-nannys, you get whatever driving dynamic you want. This particular M-B seems to be a real sweet spot in their line-up, one that should have broader appeal than many of their models. The only thing I don't really like about the car is pure personal preference, and has nothing to do w/ the quality of the car, and that is I would prefer a slightly larger vehicle. I wonder, does the E-class have a model analagous to the C450?
thanks! Since 2011 I've been driving a 2011 c300, I just made up my mind to get this one plus keep my car as well - l love my fully loaded blk/blk c but I will like more sport. The new 4 cylinder C300 it's underpowered while the 4 cyl acts too much like a 4 cyl Toyota. I want more speed while keeping the lux (BMW interiors are dated and boring) but I don't think there is a need for the c63 for everyday driving. This has the sound, 6 cyl, interior, speed, gadgets, good price & looks. I'm getting one in few weeks. :)
Is this the personality I'd like to see in a Mercedes, you ask? What I like is the fact that the car can take on different personalities (i.e. different driving modes) based on what suits one's preference at any given moment. It's also sporty enough looking, but not too Fast & Furious. I think MB could have gone further, though. I wish the car could be given a "quietly" assertive personality rather than a loudly aggressive one. Like an athlete that is quick and agile, but doesn't feel the need to talk trash. Specifically, a car that let's its performance do the talking without the need to have artificial engine/exhaust notes pumped though the speakers, or calculated misfires injected into the engine. That's like a kid putting playing cards or balloons between the fork and spokes of this bicycle to make it sound like a loud engine. Tricks are for kids. MB should allow owners to just keep it real (and quiet), if/when they so choose. Other than that, I'd like to see MB do a few other things for this car... 1) Add the vented and cooled seats that were offered on the C300 (and I believe come with the C450 when optioned in Europe) 2) Incorporate Car Play, already, instead of just talking about it forever 3) Offer some real AMG caliber wheels as options. The current offering is lame when compared to that real AMGs. Other than that, it seems like a great car from what I've seen and experienced so far.
+Miguel Rodriguez How is it a poser car? It's solidly built, has a great powertrain, great features, nice materials inside and like any MB it will have that solid and heavy feel. The top notch model isn't really necessary and I'd spring for something like this because I will actually use it to it's max versus the AMG which is so OTT I might not get my money's worth.
+moritsuna And heck, I wouldn't even call anything but the base-model CLA a poser car. The CLA 45 AMG is a solid car as well, if a bit cheap for a Merc, and I'm honestly impressed with how much power AMG was able to get out of that inline 4.
I love the car!!! And yes I do want that kind of personality in a Mercedes actually Merc's had never been into my options since they were a bit too old fashioned and grandpa styled for me. But with this C class all that changes and At last you can have the Luxury of a Mercedes with with the driving and modernism or BMW and Audi. The only think I would change is making the screen retractible or embedded it looks a like if it was and iPad glued to the dash. Thanks!!
There is nothing i would not like, that car is beautiful as is driving dynamics of it are a real shocker for me cause we usually associate such dynamics with Bmw M cars. so really Merc has upped their game well done!!!!
@motomantv What I don't like is the lack of the standing 3 point arrow on the bonnet. When you look down the length of it and the star is missing it just doesn't feel right.
Yes I would love the optional personality of the sport+, I would love to being able to disengage the +popping when visiting my customers but when going home with a good order I would celebrate in + mode on the twisties ;) Anyway I so much agree on the designo interior in this car, soooooo nice, and yes please use that can opener and add a panorama - I have one in my C250 and I would be sad to miss that. Thank you for a very good review, it just made me wanting one even more
+Strfry Have not driven the Jag so really can't comment from a driving dynamics stand point. That said, have gone over the details of both and can say the interior of the Jag is lightyears behind the C Class and most other cars in the class. Same goes for the XF. From an exterior design perspective - which is admittedly subjective - I much prefer the Benz.
+MotoManTV Same thing I was thinking...the Benz, or Benz in General, just has so much more refinement for the interior. I've seen some other UA-cam Vids doing test runs of the XE S, but I think Jag should put you in one...like yesterday! Good stuff MotoMan!
The Jag is better than the 340i too. 340i is too soft and cushy. I dont like how the Jag looks from behind, and yes, the interior is somewhat behind, but there's no denying its got one hell of a suspension setup and a great chassis. Best car in its class for driving dynamics by a margin
Yes I would love the optional personality of the sport+, I would love to being able to disengage the +popping when visiting my customers but when going home with a good order I would celebrate in + mode on the twisties ;) Anyway I so much agree on the designo interior in this car, soooooo nice, and yes please use that can opener and add a panorama - I have one in my C250 and I would be sad to miss that. Thank you for a very good review, it just made me wanting one even more. Oh, BTW - I would go for the estate, so cool.
Of course Mercedes is going towards right direction. They used to be boring but now. Merdeces got on top of the game. 1: top luxury 2: sport as hell 3: stylish 4: quality 5: now its all affordable even AMG models for everyone almost. Mercedes achieved their goal which was looking for younger costumers. Also i bought c450 amg because its like having all kind of personality in 1. Even my friend was amazed with the performance, quality, looks and sound of the exhaust which he has maserati lol. No one can put mercedes on the hot seat not even you. Thats why the logo is star ( sky, ocean, ground)
@motomantv at 9:45 you state the car will stay in the specific dynamic select mode if you turn off the car and come back to it later. It does not do that. I have tried it in my C300, and at the dealership in a C450. I have read the manual and it says every time the engine is shut off, the next time the engine starts up, the Dynamic Select will go back to the Comfort Mode.
+ljostarter Played around with this with the head of Product for MBUSA before we drove the car. Only works in a C450 from what I was told and holds up to specific amount of time . . .
+MotoManTV First off I love your videos, very very helpful!! I'm driving a 2016 C450 AMG and have the same issue as ljostarter reported, each time the car is shut down the "Dynamic Select" returns to "Comfort". I wish I could look at the actual manual, they shorted me on the manual and MBrace sent me a PDF of a C Class Manual and it says it will return to "Comfort Mode" each time the car is shut off. I've had the car almost four weeks and still no manual, they are checking today to see if the C450 has a seperate manual or if the C Class Manual covers it. The Dealership is going to do their best to get me a manual today.
+utbronco I just followed up with Mercedes Benz Customer Support and they told me point blank that the "Dynamic Select" does not stay in the most recent setting for up to 4 hours. They had the answer fast and with clarity!! I'll stop worring about it!
+utbronco I just contacted some of my trainers with AMG; only European model C450s have that feature. The C450's emission standards in the US require the dynamic select to always revert back to comfort mode.
+ljostarter Thank you very much!! Now if you could figure out the problem I wrote about a while ago here on this page, I would buy you dinner!! Thank you again!!
Lease Audi A6 Quattro or C300 4 matic with similar equipment? If both were same price per month and money down with similar equipment. Which would you suggest?
This journalist is amazing. So much personality. Love the way he talks with character. Where has he been all my life lol. I love this dude. Fantastic. Brilliant journalism.
Flat, boring journalists suck. He reminds me of top gear and why they were so successful which was their personalities.
You mean annoying?
Ordered my C450 and after that review am even more pumped. This is exactly what I want in a sports sedan. All the comfort and luxury that I've worked so hard all my life for with that kick ass performance that says, yeah, I can still drive like a 20 year old looking to race at a stop light
+Michael Snyder
what color & list your options on the 450
+Michael Snyder In that case congratulations - I wish...... ;) Enjoy enjoy
$62k hard loaded sport 450 at my dealer, black met with sport seats, pano roof
waiting for c63 coupe in spring
+Michael Snyder Hope it is better than mine, see my posts above!
Michael Snyder how's the reliability?
I just bought this car two weeks ago and couldn't be happier. Perfect combination of sport and luxury. The interior is flawless and the exhaust is pure awesomeness.
how was the reliability
This is definitely what I'm looking for in mercedez. the combo of luxury and sport.
Good choice. My fam drives all benz. I’m China, US, Canada. My brother has the C63, luxury interior, but when you lightly tap the pedal, it doesn’t just jump, it FLIES! So all I’m saying is, I agree! At the end of the day, they did invent cars...
I have had my C450 for about 4 weeks now and just went over 1,000 miles. Your review is right on. I drive around town in Sport and on the highway in Eco (31 mpg). The car has a luxury interior that makes you feel good every time you get into it. I have the all season tires because I wanted to drive it in the winter. Great luxury driver with great performance when you want it.
I drove one of these here in Bellevue, WA a few days ago. This car was everything I would want in a sports sedan. I need this car!!!
I love it. This is exactly what I have been looking for. I am coming off of a highly modified Mustang and wanted my next vehicle to be luxurious and still have some teeth. Great review, thank you very much!
This review helped me make up my mind to buy this car and I love it. It certainly has personality, its fast and the road holding with the AWD set up is awesome. If you travel to the mountains or live in snowy place the AWD and all season tires mean you don't need to buy a separate set of winter wheels or, under most circumstances, use chains. The fold down back seats enables you to carry all your ski equipment inside the car. I've owned many BMWs and Mercedes, this C450 AMG Sport is an astonishing combination of fun, practicality and yes, value.... it looks good too. Thanks for the review.
Roderick Macdonald how's the reliability?
Superb SoSa. I've driven over 12,000 miles so far in all conditions without a single problem.
Roderick Macdonald do you still own this car? Maintenance wise is it expensive, and how’s the reliability?
The C450 AMG is beautiful, mine is almost 4 weeks old, Black exterior with Cranberry Red Leather. It goes like the wind, is fun to drive and an amazing car,,,EXCEPT. On January 19th we were driving to an appointment playing music on an SD card, driving in "Sport Plus" and all of a sudden the Command Screen went blank and the car was placed back into Comfort Mode. We pushed the button to get the screen back on but it didn't work. 2 or 3 minutes later the screen came on by it's self with the "AMG" welcome picture. Put the car back into "Sport Plus" and in a few minutes it happened again. This happened several times. We got to our destination shut down the car, got out, tried to lock the doors with the KeyFob, it wouldn't work. We locked the doors by touching the door handle. By the time we got back to the car it was fine. The Car has been at the Dealership since then, they have not been able to replicate the problem. I'm picking it up today and hoping for the best!! Seems to me this could be dangerous, who knows what else might shut down when going 80 on the Interstate.
That I cannot help you with. All I can say, is if it happens again, bring it back to the dealership and have them hook it up to the STS. If they can find anything the can create a PTSS case with MB to have it resolved.
+ljostarter I followed your advise. Since then we have had a "Check Engine" light, the Service Manager said it wasn't serious but I decided to have it towed into the Dealership. The first call from them said they couldn't find the problem and also they said they did see that I had driven it at 135 mph, like that was a problem? I never have driven it that fast, 85, is probably the fastest but hey, this is a C450 AMG, shouldn't it be able to go 135? Anyway, they called back and said the 135 was kph not mph and that they had found a loose hose going to some canister dealing with emissions. We have had a few error messages on the in yellow indicating something was wrong with the "Stopping Assist"?? and after the car is shut down and restarted it goes away. Now several weeks later I'm hearing a grinding in the rear end, only occasionally but a grinding just the same. This dealership won't find anything when I take it in, they will probably accuse me of driving in reverse at 50 mpg, who knows. I'm so sorry I bought this car, it's my 4th Benz and by far the worst. I'm very disappointed. It's a beautiful car, it does move like the wind, it sounds amazing, but I can't depend on it to go anywhere but to the grocery store or out to lunch. I have been in contact with MB in New Jersey but they are, at least at this point, not able to help!
Thanks for the review, thorough and engaging! Yes, this is exactly what I want to see from MB. Luxury shouldn't have to be bland, and sporty shouldn't have to be unrefined. An AWD luxury sport sedan that can do 0-60 in 4.x sec and also get 30mpg hwy is a winner! So now it's 335 M sport or C450...
i love my Mercedes c-350, 4M, it is the most amazing car I have ever driven, or owned. I like the c-63 but it's impractical for me as we are in a winter climate a lot ,and I need the 4M. I plan on getting a good used c-450 in a couple of years, as they are still untouchable for my budget . I hope my c-350 retains its value as I expect it to. thanks.
Great review as always! To your question, I think the C450 is a good balance between performance, style and value for money. It makes sense for those who want a C-Class that drives and looks sporty but don't want to go all the way or can't afford an C63. But I tend to believe that there is a place for a mid-level C-Class but without all the "sportiness" - and it was the C400. Not everyone who wants more performance in a C-Class would appreciate an exhaust burble or a red seatbelt. If Mercedes were to keep the C400 in its lineup while adding the C450, everyone would have her flavor. But I wouldn't fault Mercedes to ditch the C400 in favor of the C450 if only 1 can survive.
best reviewer I've seen
Best car review I’ve seen, love your personality
I love this, the W205 chassis is beautiful. I will say though, after owning a c300 for just over 6 months now.. I really long for a bigger engine :( So this c450/c43 is really where its at I think.
Same 😓😓
awesome reviewer. this guy should be #1 worldwide.
As A current BM owner, I am happy to see this type of sporty personality come into the Merc fold. The C450 AMG is definitely on my shopping list. Love the diamond grill, and I will have it in an Estate please.
12:42 I was literally thinking about that the entire video, SO close to a PERFECT spec lol
This guy is everything that Seinfeld wants to be. top notch review! this car is amazing just on practicality alone ....it pretty much is a huge EFF You to everything else.
Been watching reviews on this car all month by far the best most informative video I have seen so far great job! Def buying this car
This reviewer is fantastic!!! Him and CNETs Brian Cooley need to get together and make a channel, it would be epic
Very nice review. As to your questions, yes I think this is the personalty I want in my Mercedes. More to the point, I like having the option of this being my Mercedes. You never want your brand to pigeon hole your customers into a certain style. The more options you have the more potential customers you have. You said that in the past you had Mercedes (luxury), Audi (middle), and BMW (sporty). I am so glad this is not the case anymore. I want a sporty fast car but BMW has never done it for me. I can honestly say I have never done a double take to a BMW and said "wow". Of course this is personal preference but having the option to get the brand/look you want combined with type (sport/luxury) says great things about the market between these three companies.
Likes: Pretty much everything. Specifically the exhaust note is fantastic. Love the fact that it holds your driver settings for four hours at a time.
Dislikes: Not sure about the negative camber. Does it really add that much to performance? Tires are not cheap..
It looked like your tester did not have the AMG Sport seats but the standard sports seats. Were they nice? Did you get a chance to sit in one with the AMG Sport seats? I saw at 12:01 the ambient lighting on the center console. Was it nice? Probably not noticeable during the day.
I can't say if I would change anything about the car since I have not driven one yet. A few cosmetic things I'd like to change (the back end of the whole C class lineup could use a tweak) but so far it looks like a great addition to the lineup.
+wsboxer1 So good timing of this . . . at the same time I drove that C450 AMG, I had a C63 s back in California so literally went from 'normal' Sport Seat - C450 - to the full on Sport Seat - C63s. Of course, I am going to say I prefer the full sport seat, but then again I am broken in that I like Lotus and cars with racing seats . . . Really depends on what you are doing with the car.
+MotoManTV Good to know. This would be a daily driver (for me anyway). I love a good sport seat as well but also would like it not to bounce my spine all over the place.
Also it was really nice to hear you going in thinking that it would just be a little tuned up normal car so they could move AMG's. I was thinking the same thing and I am very glad you seem to think it is better then that.
+wsboxer1 Both style of seats are very nice. If you'll never consider a trackday than I'd save the extra money as the standard seats are more comfortable. The AMG seats are pretty darn comfortable given how they look; daily driver yes, long trip maybe. Ventilation has never been an option for the AMG seats, it was* for the sport seats, but they may have changed that.
There's no way Mercedes puts a ton of camber in this car. It's a double-a-arm so it'll have dynamic camber gain through articulation. Even so, I'd imagine tire wear won't be an issue. More camber if you end up on the track, it'll probably suffer from copious amounts of understeer.
I'm with you though, BMW is falling (or leveling out at least) while everyone else is improving their products in one way or another. Maybe BMW brought their new design a little early (2012-ish) and now the competition is new and fresh. My Lexus has better steering feel than the newer BMW's and Mercedes now has nicer interior styling. That's why MB, Audi, and Lexus will continue to be on my radar moving forward. The C450 sedan/coupe will absolutely be on the list come 2016 when I return my lease. Best of luck to you as well!
The personality is exactly why after 9 years, and 3 different Audis (D3 A8, D3 A8, C7 S6), we're switching to the C450 AMG Sport. Not only were we looking to downsize, but this thing is just bonkers good in terms of fun, function, and looks. The interior is still not as good as Audi in terms of design (and especially the MMI), but it makes up for that in pure charisma. The last week of January cannot come sooner.
Harrison Bade how's the reliability?
It has been nothing but a joy thus far. I haven't experienced a hiccup in the driving, media interface, nor overall operation of the car. I still think that the Audi MMI is markedly better in terms of looks and operation, and I still think Audi offers a better interior in the B9 A/S4, but the C450 (now C43 AMG) is still a fine place to be.
Drove it last week, i was heading to an audi s4 or a bmw 435, beacuse i am more on the luxury sport side of cars.. but now I can tell since on top of sportiness, there is a refined touch in the interior, a suberbe motor (silky but performant as well), they got me,.. i think guys like me, professionnals in their 40's etc... migth be the mercedes the target audience. there is everything i like in a care, style, quality, performance, and a high quality sound system.. yahoo!
Best of both worlds i believe, not too aggressive and not too shabby. A sunroof would be great!!!
Love the diamond radiator grille and the Designo quilted seats on the C450 AMG!
Best narration ever
Yes yes yes. Looks great, sounds great and I want it! My lease is almost up on my current 2013 C so I'm excited to start looking again and now I know where I'm going to start!
I feel sorry for ur lease
Why?
Huge money waste
+Mathieu Bouvier that makes no sense. But ok. I guess you don't know how a lease works
oh boy
I love this dude, good review
I really like the personality and I think I will be getting one ! Thank you men
Dude you deserve much more subscribers than what you have
Just saw this review. This is on highway 276 in Brevard NC. I learned to drive on this road. Very cool to see this in the video :)
This man is good. One more subscriber 👍🏼
that interior colour is gorgeous!
i just bought this car. i think i made the right decision
Good luck... very good chice
Would you still buy it, if it was called C43 AMG ? I might sound stupid, but while C450 AMG 4Matic sounds like a nice compromise between C400 and C63, C43 AMG is pretty much the poor man's C63. Even if it is the exact same car.
+Kaisuke971 I would. Some people dont want only sport cars.
+Taras Buljba But normalno fast cars.... Like mi
Kaisuke971 i would still buy it. this is my first car. i am not looking for sth with 500 hp. and mine costs 76k cad. its not a poor man's car by any means
Yes I like it very much! First, IT'S A MERCEDES!! So beautiful, so well designed and built. But the idea of getting "personality" from a car is very enticing. Thank's for your great work.
Motoman ,I agree this is the way to go👍
Yeah, more personality for all cars is good! There are plenty of "boring/unidentifiable" cars out there these days :)
YES! Neutrality in the suspension is something I've missed since my 97 c280. Was better handler then 04 clk500 or 13 c250. I can't wait to give it a drive.
great review! I usually go to motortrend's channel, but this was very informative and entertaining
I've driven this car for 3 months coming from an S4. It's fast but buttoned down to the point that it doesn't drive with the urgency and excitement of the Audi. Interior is great but the glove box is almost inaccessible from the driver's seat due to the angle of the box door. The wipers are cheap. Otherwise it's been great overall.
rbassdo could you be more specifixc and give additional details comparing this merc to an S4? In what spec did you have it? With sports diff? Thanks
Great review and spot on. Just purchased mine a week ago and love it.
I love the quilted leather and the wood trim on the Designio model. So many of these 'sport line' cars have carbon fibre interior trim, which is not to my liking.
And "alcantara' too, I'd rather have leather in most places....
+Lovejazz01 You can get leather in the Designo or just pay for the option. I have black leather in mine - it's absolutely stunning.
nice job, I want one of these next
I think they can pull it off. I don't want to speculate on what to change or not change. This car is interesting, a real reasonable daily driver.
I like that personality of Mercedes because they still made cars like the sls amg, black series and the amg gt s. So it's not like they can't be sporty and luxurious because they have held them both in their heritage.
Awesome review! Motoman will you be reviewing the new GLC? I know you did the preview in the MB event already.
I owned a 2008 BMW 335i for 7 years before buying this car. 300HP/300FT-LB torque - good! Replaced the fuel pump, water pump and ignition coils all before 70K miles - bad! Switched to Mercedes hoping for better reliability. Bought the C450 since it is a perfect blend of performance, luxury and price within the $50k-$60k price range. (I negotiated price down to $50.5K from $56.5 list which included leather seats, LED Xenon lights and 19" wheels). Comparable cars considered were BMW 340i (less power, 2WD), Audi S4/S5 (less power), BMW M2 (less torque, too small), Mercedes CLA45 (4-banger noise), BMW M3/M4 and Mercedes C63 or even Lexus RC F (more expensive). Thank you Mercedes for stepping out of your comfort zone and finally creating car that can lead the sub $60K performance luxury car market.
Any issues so far? I heard they were having problems with the transmission. I will get this or the CLA45. Decisions...
So far so good. Not a single complaint after7 months of ownership. The most difficult part was waiting for the break in period before letting the car show its full power. The CLA45 is nice but still a 4 banger.
Great to hear, I think the 450 is a more balance car all around. Thanks for the feedback and enjoy the experience.
Certainly unusual car from a Mercedes (V6 twin-turbo AWD with a negative camber... sounds more like a rally car to me). I know it's not a full blown AMG (like most car enthusiasts would say), but still packs a punch... and those burbles and pops are addictive.
Absolutely love this car! I have a 2009 C300, which is the second Mercedes I've owned. Looking to buy my third very soon. The only reason I dislike this vid is because I can't afford it! I think I'm gonna have to stay within my budget and get the C400 :(
Upgrading to this next to replace my old 2002 C32. It’s awesome but I think the 4matic will help in the flaws the rear wheel drive has.
Do I remember? ssssssshhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiitttttttttt, my first memory of an interior trim was that particular wood from my father's Mercedes SE!Love the interior configuration! however, I'd go with something else for the exterior.Don't we all love the "Controlled MisFire!" Especially with big AMGs!yea I think there's a place for a mid-level thing ... luxurious yet packs a quite punch! it would be most welcomed in countries that taxes engine displacement or Emissions. a Full-AMG C63 might be a too expensive as a result while a Half-AMG C450 can pass without hefty taxes.plus, Mercedes could use a contender for the XE S, S4 & upcoming ATS Vsport & M340i segment.As always, Excellent episode M!
Yes, love this car. The mid sized Mercedes I've been waiting for
the 450 AMG certainly has personality; I love it, the panaramic roof is the only short coming....
Best interior! Beautiful floating screen!!
I’d just bought a c63s after I have had Porsche for last two decades. Carrera, Carerra S and GT3RS. Just need a break from Porsche. I really like the new Mercedes AMG line. I picked the C series due to its size. Not keen on driving a boat. As my brother gave me his 300SD a decade ago. I drove the diesel for five years time. It was a solid car family sedan. Although a bit big for me.
Like the new Mercedes line.
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As always you define the indifinable. love it.
video from 3 days ago? ha! what a fluke I decided to look up the 450 again just now after waiting months. good video.
Yes this car seems great! I like that there is a performance offering before having to spend a ton on the V8, (nvm gas for the beast). I mean, I would love a c63, but realistically this car is one I would actually buy.
This car is a winner! I want one.
+MotoManTV I think it is great. I would prefer the c63 s but this car would certainly be fun to have.
this guy gets paid by the word
hahaha
Great video
You’re good. Hope you get more successful in this line of work
Thank you, sir!
@MotoMan, I will absolutely like if you talk also about electronic driving systems !
I agree with what Mercedes is doing by making their cars more sporty and giving them more driving character / dynamics yet still keep the luxury and solidity that Mercedes is known for.
To be unique with the luxury character, Mercedes should bring back the recirculating ball (RB) steering.
Back in 1997, I purchased a C class and it had that steering and boy was it luxurious feeling...very distinctive buttery smooth steering.
No one else had that--it made me feel uppercrust the minute I grab that steering wheel (eventhough I only drove the cheapest Mercedes!)
Mercedes is about luxury first so bring that back!
Dee-zyn-yo I think is the correct pronunciation. Awesome review!
Yeah. I'm getting one. Love this car .
bueatiful car I'm leasing one of these amg rides by next year
+cali kali I would seriously consider it, please look at my postings above!
I would agree with previous posters that this is the personality that I would like in a Mercedes. In fact, realistically you have to say that this car has 'multiple personalities', as you so well showed with your witty dialects. As I have posted here in the past, I really like the idea of adaptive dampers, as, with the adjustments to steering, throttle mapping, and e-nannys, you get whatever driving dynamic you want. This particular M-B seems to be a real sweet spot in their line-up, one that should have broader appeal than many of their models. The only thing I don't really like about the car is pure personal preference, and has nothing to do w/ the quality of the car, and that is I would prefer a slightly larger vehicle. I wonder, does the E-class have a model analagous to the C450?
thanks! Since 2011 I've been driving a 2011 c300, I just made up my mind to get this one plus keep my car as well - l love my fully loaded blk/blk c but I will like more sport. The new 4 cylinder C300 it's underpowered while the 4 cyl acts too much like a 4 cyl Toyota. I want more speed while keeping the lux (BMW interiors are dated and boring) but I don't think there is a need for the c63 for everyday driving. This has the sound, 6 cyl, interior, speed, gadgets, good price & looks. I'm getting one in few weeks. :)
great video man i will be looking at this car!
Is this the personality I'd like to see in a Mercedes, you ask? What I like is the fact that the car can take on different personalities (i.e. different driving modes) based on what suits one's preference at any given moment. It's also sporty enough looking, but not too Fast & Furious. I think MB could have gone further, though. I wish the car could be given a "quietly" assertive personality rather than a loudly aggressive one. Like an athlete that is quick and agile, but doesn't feel the need to talk trash. Specifically, a car that let's its performance do the talking without the need to have artificial engine/exhaust notes pumped though the speakers, or calculated misfires injected into the engine. That's like a kid putting playing cards or balloons between the fork and spokes of this bicycle to make it sound like a loud engine. Tricks are for kids. MB should allow owners to just keep it real (and quiet), if/when they so choose.
Other than that, I'd like to see MB do a few other things for this car...
1) Add the vented and cooled seats that were offered on the C300 (and I believe come with the C450 when optioned in Europe)
2) Incorporate Car Play, already, instead of just talking about it forever
3) Offer some real AMG caliber wheels as options. The current offering is lame when compared to that real AMGs.
Other than that, it seems like a great car from what I've seen and experienced so far.
yes , it is exactly what I want, ideal car
The power creep is real....this thing would demolish the old C32 and C55 AMGs from just 7 years ago.
+Miguel Rodriguez How is it a poser car? It's solidly built, has a great powertrain, great features, nice materials inside and like any MB it will have that solid and heavy feel. The top notch model isn't really necessary and I'd spring for something like this because I will actually use it to it's max versus the AMG which is so OTT I might not get my money's worth.
+Miguel Rodriguez let me guess you drive a manual skyline GT-R. How is it a poser's car? The CLA is a poser's car.
+moritsuna
And heck, I wouldn't even call anything but the base-model CLA a poser car. The CLA 45 AMG is a solid car as well, if a bit cheap for a Merc, and I'm honestly impressed with how much power AMG was able to get out of that inline 4.
+Miguel Rodriguez: what a idiotic comment. Have you driven one?
I love the car!!! And yes I do want that kind of personality in a Mercedes actually Merc's had never been into my options since they were a bit too old fashioned and grandpa styled for me. But with this C class all that changes and At last you can have the Luxury of a Mercedes with with the driving and modernism or BMW and Audi. The only think I would change is making the screen retractible or embedded it looks a like if it was and iPad glued to the dash.
Thanks!!
Yes! the exhaust crackles I mean come on if thats not what defines charater than i dont know what does
Solid review. Love your energy!
There is nothing i would not like, that car is beautiful as is driving dynamics of it are a real shocker for me cause we usually associate such dynamics with Bmw M cars. so really Merc has upped their game well done!!!!
@motomantv What I don't like is the lack of the standing 3 point arrow on the bonnet. When you look down the length of it and the star is missing it just doesn't feel right.
Yes I would love the optional personality of the sport+, I would love to being able to disengage the +popping when visiting my customers but when going home with a good order I would celebrate in + mode on the twisties ;)
Anyway I so much agree on the designo interior in this car, soooooo nice, and yes please use that can opener and add a panorama - I have one in my C250 and I would be sad to miss that.
Thank you for a very good review, it just made me wanting one even more
This VS Jaguar XE S...Go!
+Strfry Have not driven the Jag so really can't comment from a driving dynamics stand point. That said, have gone over the details of both and can say the interior of the Jag is lightyears behind the C Class and most other cars in the class. Same goes for the XF. From an exterior design perspective - which is admittedly subjective - I much prefer the Benz.
+MotoManTV Same thing I was thinking...the Benz, or Benz in General, just has so much more refinement for the interior. I've seen some other UA-cam Vids doing test runs of the XE S, but I think Jag should put you in one...like yesterday! Good stuff MotoMan!
+Strfry Jag XES knocks Merc out of the ballpark in terms of driving - its very very good and sounds better too!
+Strfry BMW 340i :P
The Jag is better than the 340i too. 340i is too soft and cushy. I dont like how the Jag looks from behind, and yes, the interior is somewhat behind, but there's no denying its got one hell of a suspension setup and a great chassis. Best car in its class for driving dynamics by a margin
This is perfection
I just got one I'm in love with it.
Very good review. Where is this particular model made- US or Germany?
As a 335 owner I'm blown away how much nicer the new c interior is - it looks like such a nicer place to be in compared to the f30 BMW
Herakles BMW interiors has always been the weakest points or the steering
Great review I enjoy your presentations
Dude. You are funny. Love it. Great review.
Just saying I got mine to do 4.4 stock planning to do stage one bumps it up to 480 hp and 520 t witch is crazy
Yes I would love the optional personality of the sport+, I would love to being able to disengage the +popping when visiting my customers but when going home with a good order I would celebrate in + mode on the twisties ;)
Anyway I so much agree on the designo interior in this car, soooooo nice, and yes please use that can opener and add a panorama - I have one in my C250 and I would be sad to miss that.
Thank you for a very good review, it just made me wanting one even more.
Oh, BTW - I would go for the estate, so cool.
That’s such a gorgeous interior ❤️
looool "God help us a ford cmax" love this guy
very nice and informative review
cheers!
Of course Mercedes is going towards right direction. They used to be boring but now. Merdeces got on top of the game. 1: top luxury 2: sport as hell 3: stylish 4: quality 5: now its all affordable even AMG models for everyone almost. Mercedes achieved their goal which was looking for younger costumers. Also i bought c450 amg because its like having all kind of personality in 1. Even my friend was amazed with the performance, quality, looks and sound of the exhaust which he has maserati lol. No one can put mercedes on the hot seat not even you. Thats why the logo is star ( sky, ocean, ground)
i can answer the question, this is the first time I would buy a mercedes. just went to montreal auto show. it blew me away
Your previous mode maxes out in 4 hours? Why not stay like that until you change it? It's a hassle changing it every morning
Hi. I need your advice. I love the Mercedes Benz C43 but I like the 2016 Volvo S90 inscription. What's your opinion. Thanks
Think I'm buying this car also . Wow
@motomantv at 9:45 you state the car will stay in the specific dynamic select mode if you turn off the car and come back to it later. It does not do that. I have tried it in my C300, and at the dealership in a C450. I have read the manual and it says every time the engine is shut off, the next time the engine starts up, the Dynamic Select will go back to the Comfort Mode.
+ljostarter Played around with this with the head of Product for MBUSA before we drove the car. Only works in a C450 from what I was told and holds up to specific amount of time . . .
+MotoManTV First off I love your videos, very very helpful!! I'm driving a 2016 C450 AMG and have the same issue as ljostarter reported, each time the car is shut down the "Dynamic Select" returns to "Comfort". I wish I could look at the actual manual, they shorted me on the manual and MBrace sent me a PDF of a C Class Manual and it says it will return to "Comfort Mode" each time the car is shut off. I've had the car almost four weeks and still no manual, they are checking today to see if the C450 has a seperate manual or if the C Class Manual covers it. The Dealership is going to do their best to get me a manual today.
+utbronco I just followed up with Mercedes Benz Customer Support and they told me point blank that the "Dynamic Select" does not stay in the most recent setting for up to 4 hours. They had the answer fast and with clarity!! I'll stop worring about it!
+utbronco I just contacted some of my trainers with AMG; only European model C450s have that feature. The C450's emission standards in the US require the dynamic select to always revert back to comfort mode.
+ljostarter Thank you very much!! Now if you could figure out the problem I wrote about a while ago here on this page, I would buy you dinner!! Thank you again!!
Lease Audi A6 Quattro or C300 4 matic with similar equipment? If both were same price per month and money down with similar equipment. Which would you suggest?
Interesting that the exterior mirrors are not body-colored.
Great car. Blends sport and luxury beautifully.
Well-equipped for about $60k