Ioniq 5/6 TSB Released for Faulty Motor Oil Pumps | This Explains Turtle Mode
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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So my 2023 ran roughly the equivalent RPM request as it reported rotation but never went over 1A draw. That could have just been the oil viscosity (65°) that had yours show approximately double or it could be a slight rounding difference versus what you showed. Thanks for the heads up as I added it to my CarScanner view for future reference. 👍🏼
I decided I need to start Posting my Insite into your Videos. Me I'm a Master Kia/Hyundai Technician I also hold a Masters Deg in Applied Science from ASU. When you see these TSBs, it will normally mean, a very tiny Percentage of these cases have occurred, and Hyundai has released this info to help the Technicians to make the correct fix. This is not a Recall. As for your anecdotal reasoning: Definition is an adjective (of an account) not necessarily true or reliable, because based on personal accounts rather than facts or research: That can put things in people's minds. That can make them create unreasonable Assumptions. At my current Dealership we have not seen any of these failures with us having a large population of these Vehicles in are area.
At your dealership...so no incentive to be biased right (just checking)? What do you think about teslas?
@@doomnipple9846 I'm not Biased at all I work for an Auto Group that has 18 dealerships on the west coast. Different Brands of vehicles. I'm the head of Diagnostics for the Auto group. I simply look for the truth. As for Tesla I feel they make a great vehicle. The Tesla Battery Managment system Is in my Opinion the best of the best. My only disappoint with Tesla is the lack of Quality in there Fit and Finish to their vehicles.
I do not wish to interrupt his channel in any way. But if you wish for the actual science behind certain issues that are brought up, I would be glad to Place my Scientific input into whatever discussion is at hand. Just non bias Factual Input.
Thankfully, I have only had turtle mode displayed on my dash when my big battery was very very, very, very low.
But I don’t think it ever entered real turtle mode until I got to -5 miles range.
Thanks Corbin
I've once had the turtle mode pop up once because I severely underestimated the impact that below freezing temperatures and incline had on the range and it popped up a couple times going uphill on a highway at like 3 miles remaining and went away once it leveled out or went downhill. It came back on once I hit zero miles remaining on flat ground going 35 three miles away from the charging station and got there at negative three miles remaining. Would not recommend.
The only other time I came close to the same issue was when I went to a charging station that turned out to be closed while they rebuilt a Sheetz, but in that case I waited at a slow charger for 25 minutes just to make sure I didn't run into the same situation getting to the closest fast charger.
I do love your Channel and think you do a good job to help inform people. I just want to make sure people are informed with the best actual Facts that are known at the present time. Not Gut Feelings or Anecdotal reasoning
MY EOP didn't work from day one in my car. It took me self-diagnosing the problem with help from the FB forum to get them to look into it. Then it took 8 weeks and a "hyundai master tech" to fly out and confirm what I had told them. Finally got my car back and haven't had any issues with it since last summer. Glad to see hyundai is learning, even if it's at a turtle mode pace
I had the same thing happen (dead from day 1) with the PTC heater on my EV6. Self-diagnosed with OBD Link and Car Scanner app, and it was finally fixed under warranty. Problem is that the Kia "technicians" are largely incompetent; some will not work on EV at all because they are afraid of getting zapped (electricity!). I like my EV6, but if Kia does not get their shit together, I may sell it and never look at a Hyundai/Kia/Genesis product again.
Same here 2023 AWD and after about 50 min of driving the rear motor would reach 200 degrees and quit, only front motor working. No trouble codes. Took way too long for me to convince Hyundai to replace the EOP. It was OBVIOUS that the EOP was dead. (We are on the bleeding edge.) All is well now, just got 3.8 miles/kW on a 200 mile run through the Blue Ridge Mts. Great car.
Corbin, when I look at your specialized tool to diagnose this problem or hunting down the ICCU charging issue like you did in a previous video, it would appear to me that Ioniq drivers needs a tool box to enjoy a Hyundai… The more I think about it, the more I like my Acura ICE car. No need to any tool. Never breaks.
Your Acura ICE car uses the exact same tool to diagnose its problems as well. Industry standard. My IONIQ 5 never needed any such tool either. Commentaire nono.
@@fleecystheking Fact: There is a problem or a recall every month or so on a Ioniq car… Not on my Acura…
It may be an EV, but it is still a Hyundai. If you want an EV, get a Tesla.
I’ve had mine since 2022. There hasn’t been any issues and I have almost 60k miles
I just left the dealership and they said my ICCU wasn’t affected. No codes popped up. They just gave me an update and I went home. 🤷🏾♂️
I love your videos - but the way there are constant updates of recalls etc makes people think Ioniqs are super unreliable. But most are precautionary recalls / minor issues...
Great video; fortunately I have not had any problem but now I know what to watch out for!
Question about your OBD scanner - what phone software do you use with it? Thanks.
Carscanner
So ninja turtle kept popping up a few times, drove for about another 1mile down the road to find a safe spot to pull over. Car went pretty much dead by that time just rolling. Popped the hood absolutely no pink fluid, if I'm correct pink is anti freeze then about a few minutes later the refill coolant decides to pop up on the dash, alittle too late for the warning. As you can see only 800 miles! Has anyone had this problem? Or is this a common issue among these Ioniq5? I know of the ICCU issue with these vehicle but not sure of this problem. Was not expecting this at all. Left me and my family of 5 stranded on a busy highway in 93°weahter for 3hrs. So any help or advice would be greatly appreciated and what action would you suggest for hyundai to take care of.
The metal chip thing sounds eerily like the ICE problems Hyundai/Kia has experienced in the past.
If you plug in that obd: do you see that it is malfunctioning right away with wrong rpm or do you need to drive far and hard for it to show?
Is there a way to check and change this oil?
Hi Corbin,
I have a 2023 Ionic 6 Limited. I also have a Veepeak OBD2 Scanner that you had recommended. The latest TSB regarding the EOP has
me really concerned. I tried using the scanner to monitor the EOP but was not very successful. Could you help me narrow down the area on the
data screens where I should look for the EOP data? Thank you.
Best regards,
Jerry K
From the car scanner Home Screen click the “all sensors” button and then at the top use the filter button to search for “eop” and you’ll see the multiple parameters pop up
@@TheIoniqGuy Thank you Corbyn. Much appreciated.
Im looking to buy an Ioniq 5, but with all these issues with 12v drain, defective radars, oil pumps, rusty bolts, ICCUs. I mean, is anyone worried about these cars when waranty runs out?
You should really go look at how many warranty extensions and TSB's are out there for basically every car ever.
This is nothing special, and pretty normal stuff honestly, across both EVs and ICE cars. You're watching a UA-cam channel dedicated to these cars. They aren't talking about all the TSB's for a Ford focus for example. My 2013 focus has a tsb that, if ignored, can result in an exploding gas tank. Just some perspective for you.
@@CarlWiles there are properbly many. Maybe i should just wait 10 years and get a 2028 model, then most of the issues should have been adressed.
My 2023 plug in hybrid ford escape had a recall for fire hazard and then the 240 plug would not work. The dealer said just use 110 volt charging.
Our 2022 Lincoln SUV had the engine fail at 49000 miles. Then fail again after a Warentee engine replacement . . No solution offered.
Some perspective on the ioniq 5. . Our 2023 ioniq 5 sel works wonderfully. Range under ideal temps 374 miles this week.
I own a 2023 Ioniq 6. I have had it for less than a year. My Ioniq now has 2 NTSB safety recalls and 3 Technical Service Bulletins as well as an unresolved tapping sound from the rear brakes and the safety cameras intermittently go dead. All of these issues have occurred in just the first few months of ownership. With the exception of one TSB pertaining to the remote door key proximity lock/unlock not functioning, the recalls and TSBs are all serious situations. The two NTSB recalls pose the risk of the vehicle suddenly becoming inoperable. Further, my dealer says they have not received training yet to repair the rear driveshaft recall. It is irresponsible of Hyundai to have these sort of factory defects and not properly developing and testing the Ioniq 6 before putting it on the market. Despite the Ioniq’s great looks and good handling, I can no longer recommend anyone buy it. Hyundai is a great disappointment.
How do the floor mats in the ad compare to tuxmat?
Tuxmats are more of an upscale look but they don’t hold their shape super well and require pins them down with clips in certain areas. Because Tuxmats are also a laminated mat with multiple layers, they’ll wear out way sooner than LinerX
Isn’t this EOP a part of the drive train and there warranted for 10 years? How can they be out of warranty?
10 years or 100k miles. There's Ioniq 5 owners already close to 100k
I would never buy a Telsa because of musk and because all the accessories are on the monitor. I want a Hyundai Ioniq 5 next but seems like they are having quite a few problems. What do you think Corbin?
How do you feel about Hyundai's owner?
Or Toyota?
Or the guy who owns your smart phones company?
Just curious.
Definitely agree on Tesla's bad U.I.
Everything on a screen is frustrating and terrible.
I really like the Regen paddles in the HI5 and adore the aesthetics but the reliability and costs are just not there :(
I would wait for the 2025 refresh of the Ioniq 5 that has the NACS port and as long as you are okay with the small chance of being one of the unlucky people to discover some of the issues that have cropped up. For most people the major inconvenience is going to the dealership more often than originally expected to get whatever update or part is needed that will be fixed for free. I'd personally still recommend it if you've done all of your research on the pros and cons of EVs, are able to charge overnight at home (by far the biggest benefit of any EV), and are okay with going to the dealership every 9 months to fix something that was found and also get your tires rotated which is needed more often than an ICE car.
The refresh will have fixed all of the current issues, and presumably the issues will get fewer and fewer each year. Every new car can have issues and it's just really luck whether you happen to be the one that gets one with some of the worst issues and have to wait a long time for them to come up with a fix. I've never had issues and absolutely love the way it drives as long as you rarely have to make a U-turn.
I feel the same way about Musk… but given all the issues I’ve had with my 2022 Ioniq 5 I am just sure I can trust any HKG EV
Musk is the only one saying stupid shit everyday making a fool of himself and giving the worst people of society a platform to spew their proud racism. @@simeonellinger2064
You might look into leasing if you're unsure about waiting for the '25 updates.
I think the Toyota bz4x is more reliable, but unfortunately, it has a very poor range
I don't know man, people love these cars but they are starting to seem like the Hyundai of old with their EV issues.
Hard to say. We’d need to know failure rate and compare it to the rest of the industry. Most people, myself included, have had zero issues (knock on wood).
Yup
@StephenByersJ I'm amazed there aren't published stats. 2 years should be enough time to gather data yeah?
Hello. I have a 2022 Ioniq 5 and I bought the dongle that you use in this video but I don’t know how to access the page in the dongle that you use to check if my vehicle is working properly. Can you tell me how to check? Thanks.
Hmmm. Sounds like another recall might be forthcoming. I wonder how many of these oil pumps have failed…? I deem it admirable and proactive that the TSB states: "If the EOP is out of warranty and requires replacement, submit a Prior Approval request for goodwill consideration prior to perfoming the work." Yay!
You say in the video that you can filter the parameters by EOP but I’m not sure how to do that?
On the carscanner Home Screen press the all sensors button and use the search bar/filter function at the top of that page and search for EOP
@@TheIoniqGuy ok great I will try that. Thanks! 👍🏻
Thanks again Corbin for being the goto guy for everything Ioniq! My wife and I are now the Ioniq duo. lol She just got a 24 I6 to park next to my I5. Very cool, me thinks!!😅
Today I brought my 2022 Ioniq 5 Limited in for the Recall on the ICCU and asked if the tech would look at the Electric Oil Pump diag code. I was informed NO as this is not an active recall. Is this correct or shall I go to another service center? Love the channel and thanks!
I would be grateful if someone could tell me what additional maintenance I should do as a semi-monthly use of towing capability of my i5.
Not only does it explain Turtle Mode, it explains that massive price drop in Ioniqs. Folks don't want to risk it and will wait until Hyundai sorts the problem out. They are ruining the Ioniq-brand name.
Samsung, another Korean company, was well known in the last two or three decades that they used the first round of customers as their beta testers. Recall the flaming batteries? I think they learned their lesson, but it makes me wonder if this isn't a Korean manufacturer strategy. Here we are with a Korean technology only a few years old, and it seems like we are becoming the beta testers for Korean EVs. I wonder when this beta testing period for Korean EVs will be over. We have other Korean products/appliances that are problem free-we bought after the customer-beta-testing period ended.
Great and helpful content. I have a OBD2 and and couple apps. Which app do you use and have you ever explained how to set up the scan categorys that you like to use, and which measurement area is for the pump speed. Thanks
I simply want people to be given the factual true information that is known at the time so they can make Objective informed decisions.
Thanks for keeping us updated Corbyn!
Say what? Our EVs use oil ?!?!?!?!
Does this include Kia?
So the I6 2024 owners do not need to worry about this, correct?
Doesn’t sound like it
I dont like the dealer has to drive the car
How would you like them to troubleshoot it then?
Does this TSB apply to RWD as well as AWD?
It does
@@TheIoniqGuy Ugg.
Just wanted to thank you for helping in making my decision to buy an Ioniq 5.
I brought it yesterday and from my very limited time with the vehicle I think this could be the best car I ever owned.
I do have a concern and I would be interested to know what you think about it.
The car was bought as a certified pre-owned vehicle from Hyundai, and it was "put in service", according to the dealership, in 4/2023. The car is a Premium model and it had only 56 miles on it at the time of the purchase, which included my 10 mile test drive (they claim it was a loaner). The looks and feels brand new, in and out. I was able to negotiate a very good price for it (nearly $20,000 off the original MSRP)
My concern is that no one was able to tell when the vehicle was charged (when I took it for a test drive its battery was at 91%, and it was set up for 90% DC charging and 100% AC charging). I am not sure if there any long term effects on health of the battery staying fully or nearly fully charged for nearly a year. The car does come with the full factory warranty starting 4/23, just don't want to deal with any possible battery issues in the future.
Thanks again.
No issue with staying charged like that. It's a good sign
@@dingleyfarm Thank you for your response. I had a PHEV before and always tried not to keep the battery fully charged when not driving the car for more than a few days.
Recalls are pilling up with this car...
This isn’t a recall. It’s just Hyundai acknowledging that some number of cars may experience this issue
Low reliability, high maintenance costs, high insurance, lack of charging. More likely to be totaled which completely destroys the environmental purpose. Those are more than enough for people to turn away from EVs.
All your videos, you are always trying to sell something.
If you have a problem with that then I welcome you to not watch my videos. This is my business.
I've been hearing a lot about these EVs killing Tesla. You can talk all you want about panel gaps, Tesla doesn't have this shit happen..
You'd be a fool to buy any other EV right right now, or rich; in which case I could see buying a rivian.