Jayson Tatum a TOP-FIVE player in the NBA? + Klay Thompson's ROLE on Mavs 🙌 | First Take

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  • On First Take, Brian Windhorst, Chiney Ogwumike and Chris Carlin join Christine Williamson to react to the Boston Celtics ownership selling a majority of the stake, and debate if Jayson Tatum is a top-five NBA player right now.
    0:00 Celtics ownership selling majority of stake
    2:30 Jayson Tatum a top-five player in the NBA?
    5:00 Better title odds: Mavs or 76ers?
    8:00 Klay Thompson's new role with the Mavericks
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  • @AbelAraya
    @AbelAraya 2 дні тому +115

    For anyone that thinks that Jayson Tatum is not the best player on his team, y’all seriously need help. The amount of gravitational pull that Tatum attracts on defense leaves Brown with so much space to operate and attack the basket. So Brown had benefited off that coverage against Dallas, and played exceptional defense on Luka. However, this team still operates with Tatum as #1. But Brown is clearly the best #2 in basketball.

    • @karmicthunda4481
      @karmicthunda4481 2 дні тому +6

      I love that my favorite team is the litmus test for casuals in this sport lol, JB my favorite player but never once after I’d say 2020 bubble did I ever think Jaylen would be the 1 on the team

    • @Jackson54321
      @Jackson54321 2 дні тому +7

      Exactly. Tatum was constantly doubled this year and gameplan were made against him and he passed the ball, which is part of the reason he had so many assists this postseason. People don’t understand if you are doubled, there’s a 4v3 in your favor if you pass the ball quick enough.

    • @wondering_hand0985
      @wondering_hand0985 2 дні тому +3

      @@Jackson54321first off he was no doubled during the playoffs clearly u didn’t watch the games

    • @Jackson54321
      @Jackson54321 2 дні тому +7

      ⁠@@wondering_hand0985🤣 nice jokes. This nba community is so f*cked 😭

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 2 дні тому +1

      JB>>>>>>LeTatumBRICK
      Cry harder, STAN

  • @LISANDRO67826782
    @LISANDRO67826782 2 дні тому +79

    As long as the Celtics continue to win championships I could care less where Tatum is ranked.

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 2 дні тому +2

      Based on modern history, Celts wont win another title anytime soon
      Their previous two titles came in 1986 and 2008
      No followup titles for the 86/08 Celtics despite having great teams
      Next Celtics title prob wont happen till 2040
      lol

    • @noneofyourbusiness-wo3bd
      @noneofyourbusiness-wo3bd 2 дні тому +21

      ​@@Nostalgia9478Big difference is those two teams you mentioned they had miles on them . These boys are still are young and healthy besides KP .Keep hating though.

    • @chronostv2071
      @chronostv2071 2 дні тому

      ​@@noneofyourbusiness-wo3bdTHIS!!!!

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 2 дні тому +1

      @@noneofyourbusiness-wo3bdKGs injury ruined Celtics chances in 2009
      KP=KG
      Didnt KP just have surgery??
      Holiday is 34 yrs old and KP is crippled
      Celtics wont repeat
      Keep hating the truth

    • @LeisureKingLou-jc2re
      @LeisureKingLou-jc2re 2 дні тому +9

      @@Nostalgia9478people have been saying the Celtics aren’t winning anything for 2-3 years already no one cares what you think LMFAOO

  • @Bars11_
    @Bars11_ 2 дні тому +44

    Just because Tatum now plays like a team player..not going for individual stats people overlook him. Go look what Curry averaged when KD was there. Sometimes stars just sacrifice for the team to thrive.

    • @Pandaman72
      @Pandaman72 2 дні тому +2

      10 points in a finals game is not team basketball

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 2 дні тому +6

      He still doesnt play like a team player though
      He shot 38 pct in the Finals yet took FAR more shots than anyone else on the team despite shooting so poorly
      He played like a selfish empty stat padding ballhog.. Thats why he didnt get Fmvp

    • @chrisneedom3275
      @chrisneedom3275 2 дні тому +3

      He lead the team in points rebounds and assists yet he don’t play team ball 😅😅😅

    • @kjjr3270
      @kjjr3270 2 дні тому +4

      ​@@Nostalgia9478 keep the same energy for Steph then. He played so bad that Kd who was playing like a demon alongside the other players tried to feed him to win FMVP and he still sold. Also don't forget that Steph only has 1 FMVP, meaning that he was only the best player in 1 of his 4 championships, meaning if JT wins one he will already equalized Steph in that. Don't try to make up any excuses now, since you wanted to go there.

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 2 дні тому

      @@kjjr3270When did Steph shoot less than 40 pct in the Finals yet take FAR more shots than anyone else on the team??
      I'll wait
      lol

  • @juliothom2408
    @juliothom2408 2 дні тому +48

    The only 3 definitely ahead of JT are Giannis, Luka, and Joker.
    JT is in the next tier with guys on the come-up (Ant, Brunson and SGA) and guys on the backside of their careers (LBJ, AD, KD, etc…). Embiid would have a case IF he stayed healthy AND IF he could ever get out of the 2nd round. He can’t, and hasn’t, so he’s not ahead of JT.
    JT is the top player on that tier. He’s ahead of SGA because he’s proven to be a guy you can build a title winner around. I THINK you can with SGA, but we KNOW we can with JT.

    • @fringe_minority
      @fringe_minority 2 дні тому +3

      JT is not that relevant on his team as SGA. JT plays his role and he I really good at it, that doesn't make him better than SGA who is pretty much unguardable.

    • @Jackson54321
      @Jackson54321 2 дні тому +4

      @@fringe_minorityunguardable doesn’t mean anything if you’re team doesn’t win. What is the ultimate goal in basketball? To win a championship.
      You’ll make your money by winning.

    • @bless8861
      @bless8861 2 дні тому +3

      @@Jackson54321see you used the word “team” when we categorize a superstar we aren’t taking about team we are talking about individual player reach and talent. Tatum got..mad help. Like a lot.

    • @chasethasack
      @chasethasack 2 дні тому

      @@fringe_minorityso in that aspect why doesnt sga have nearly the amount of accolades as tatum being months apart in age? SGA had one better year than tatum and thats because the ball is going around 2 other all stars and other great players.

    • @Jackson54321
      @Jackson54321 2 дні тому +3

      @@bless8861 that’s pure nitpicking. Every player leads their team 🤣 sure he got help and sure on a team like Boston he might not be as needed as some other players to their team but the ultimate goal is to still win.

  • @SSJRome
    @SSJRome 2 дні тому +34

    What has SGA done to be put ahead of Tatum ?

    • @PutXi_Whipped
      @PutXi_Whipped 2 дні тому +3

      What has Embiid done other than get NBA media members to neg Jokic enough so that he could have some success?

    • @kleatise52
      @kleatise52 2 дні тому +8

      People get wrapped up in accomplishments. Tatum has a super team. Turn on your tv and watch SGA, he is better than Tatum.

    • @SSJRome
      @SSJRome 2 дні тому +5

      @@kleatise52 every really good team isn’t a super team lol

    • @mattsell2361
      @mattsell2361 День тому +3

      The only logical answer is SGA has more aura and people don’t Tatum. 😂 if Tatum choked and lost in the playoffs like SGA he would be ridiculed. Tatum wins and people are pissed making all kinds of weird excuses

    • @SSJRome
      @SSJRome День тому +1

      @@mattsell2361 lol if aura could put the ball in the basket maybe they’d have a case 😂

  • @mjitalia7249
    @mjitalia7249 2 дні тому +33

    Tatum is best SF in the NBA. Definitely top 5..

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 2 дні тому +5

      KD is better than Tatum
      Tatum not even top 10

    • @mjitalia7249
      @mjitalia7249 2 дні тому +10

      @Nostalgia9478 Tatum 🔐 up KD vs Nets with a sweep. Go check the video 📹 tape..

    • @mjitalia7249
      @mjitalia7249 2 дні тому +4

      KD was top SF a couple years ago. Time to update the scouting report.

    • @comradeyellow6781
      @comradeyellow6781 2 дні тому +8

      @@Nostalgia9478 KD ain't better than Tatum stop it please

    • @kelvinlee7351
      @kelvinlee7351 2 дні тому +5

      @@Nostalgia9478 the same KD that got swept by the wolves? haha

  • @darrenboyd8638
    @darrenboyd8638 2 дні тому +19

    Jayson Tatum is coming off of three consecutive seasons of being First Team All NBA, is the best player on a team that just won a championship, and is one of the most versatile players in the league as a two way wing who can also guard the 5 . Talent wise, he’s certainly top 5. With that said though, I think you could slot him anywhere from 5-7 best player in the league today. If you rate him lower than that, you’re probably just a hater. If you put him higher, you’re being a homer.

    • @IQenjoyer
      @IQenjoyer 2 дні тому

      So the all nba voters are homers? You sound dumb

    • @ASpoloballer30
      @ASpoloballer30 День тому +2

      Tatum is not the best player on the Celtics brown is

    • @mattsell2361
      @mattsell2361 День тому +1

      I think that’s the most honest answer. I think jokic, doncic and Giannis are clearly the top 3 then like the next 7-8 guys can all be jumbled up in a bunch of different orders depending on what you value in a player

    • @mattsell2361
      @mattsell2361 День тому

      @@ASpoloballer30troll

    • @Danny-mm4th
      @Danny-mm4th День тому

      That’s a fair take tbh

  • @OtakuMainer
    @OtakuMainer 2 дні тому +14

    I don't put non 2 way players in my top 5. If you're not elite on both ends of the floor, you're not top 5 IMO.

    • @dexter-jy3yk
      @dexter-jy3yk 2 дні тому +1

      So who’s the top 5 for you

    • @Jackson54321
      @Jackson54321 2 дні тому +2

      this is true that both sides matter, but not having Jokic or Luka top 5 would be a disgrace altogether

    • @njmksr8686
      @njmksr8686 2 дні тому

      You're correct. Absolutely.

    • @IBlackSanta
      @IBlackSanta 2 дні тому

      Then you're not making a solid top 5 because plenty don't play "elite" on defense but can still be in the convo

    • @kleatise52
      @kleatise52 2 дні тому

      That’s absurd, you can be so great at one side that your team can’t be beaten (magic, bird, Steph, etc)

  • @johnharrop4027
    @johnharrop4027 День тому +5

    Can someone explain the SGA crowning to me? The dude is nice, no doubt, hasnt won even a little, is only months younger than Tatum. And tatum has proven he can score 30 a game, took a step back for the good of the team

    • @mattsell2361
      @mattsell2361 День тому +1

      It’s all about perception. SGA has been hidden away in OKC while Tatum has been making deep playoff runs his whole career with already tons of iconic moments. SGA has more “aura” and so people like him more and Tatum is easily one of the most disrespected players in the league today. Somehow this season it was Tatum had to win this year or he is the biggest choker ever and will never win, yet for SGA it’s eh ok don’t worry about it your still growing and maturing as a player

    • @kaekae1782
      @kaekae1782 18 годин тому

      @@mattsell2361SGA is better

  • @comradeyellow6781
    @comradeyellow6781 2 дні тому +5

    Whoever puts Crying Choking Joel ahead of Tatum is a fool. There are only 3 people clearly ahead of Tatum, he's on level with the rest.

    • @Miles_305
      @Miles_305 2 дні тому +4

      I am not a fan of Embiid but bruh, this JT glazin has gone too far. Embiid is literally the MVP of the league....you sound wild rn.

    • @Anonymoususer901
      @Anonymoususer901 2 дні тому

      ​@@Miles_305still can't get out of the second round 😂

    • @comradeyellow6781
      @comradeyellow6781 2 дні тому +1

      @@Miles_305 what's the point in being MVP if you choke like a dog in the playoffs, I'll take Tatum over him every day

    • @tmsgamingmane4380
      @tmsgamingmane4380 2 дні тому

      Tatum not better than Jokic, Giannis, Curry, Luka or KD. He like number 6 at best. He was mediocre in the finals.

    • @comradeyellow6781
      @comradeyellow6781 2 дні тому +1

      @@tmsgamingmane4380 Curry and KD are falling off in real time. We can argue Curry, but KD? Dude got a big 3 and got swept in the first round. He ain't better than Tatum.

  • @cashoutabu
    @cashoutabu 2 дні тому +9

    Tatum is better than sga I hate ya letting sga fool ya off of one good season 😂💯 Tatum been doing this

  • @KingG82
    @KingG82 2 дні тому +3

    Different Philly team same results 😂

  • @pg9266
    @pg9266 2 дні тому +5

    the title was an eye sore what BS

  • @k-black2385
    @k-black2385 2 дні тому +6

    Luka not winning one
    Embid not winning one
    Joker and Giannis will never win another one
    SGA is never going to make it to one. Mark my words Celtics Dynasty is amongst us

    • @enrijsvelmunskis7029
      @enrijsvelmunskis7029 День тому

      Yeah... But they have to hate on Tatum. Because there's a hope that it could break up Boston's duo. Or influence his playing. Media doesn't hate on weak players. And the amount of disrespect that has been pushed towards Tatum this year is freaking amazing. So.... Either media is paid off from someone that hopes to get JT's spirits down or he is the best player in NBA

    • @irvingzeistman9828
      @irvingzeistman9828 День тому +1

      If they get to play injured teams every year sure why not , 1 and done champs

    • @enrijsvelmunskis7029
      @enrijsvelmunskis7029 День тому

      @@irvingzeistman9828 if going by your logic it seems that Mr. Leonard should be the MVP.. Or we go only and only talent wise? Injured player can not play. So ot should be an axiom that that individual can not be the best player because he or she os not playing.

    • @jamesmoore9636
      @jamesmoore9636 День тому

      Not if the Knicks have something to say about it 🤔

    • @irvingzeistman9828
      @irvingzeistman9828 16 годин тому

      @enrijsvelmunskis7029 In English please . What the hell did I just read 😒

  • @chasecorbett7564
    @chasecorbett7564 День тому +1

    Can we talk about how SGA has had 2 great seasons and will be great, however he is so easily thrown into be top 4-5 convos and Tatum who has done significantly more in his career for longer hardly makes some peoples top 10? Name 1 thing SGA has done that Tatum hasn’t I’m waiting

  • @Mitch_Feral
    @Mitch_Feral День тому +1

    Three straight all-NBA 1st teams is basically definitionally a top 5 player. This nonsense needs to stop.

  • @okc4747
    @okc4747 2 дні тому +33

    Media calling JT top 5 after having the highest contract is crazy 😂

    • @dionreed7325
      @dionreed7325 2 дні тому +8

      Why not? As a duo they are currently #1

    • @og_mante5138
      @og_mante5138 2 дні тому +5

      @@dionreed7325 As a duo. Individually, he isn’t top 5

    • @benkocur8375
      @benkocur8375 2 дні тому +9

      He was top 5 before that, what are you talking about?

    • @okc4747
      @okc4747 2 дні тому +1

      @@benkocur8375 Top 5 is easily thanasis, tobias harris, dlo, klay thompson and ben simmons

    • @jasonfoster8217
      @jasonfoster8217 2 дні тому

      He been top 5 the salary stamped it

  • @Tone_M0NTANA
    @Tone_M0NTANA 2 дні тому +3

    No way people think SGA, Anthony Edwards, Jalen Brunson, or KD are better than Tatum. How is SGA a top 5 player but Tatum isn't?

    • @Goo_FYLoC
      @Goo_FYLoC День тому +1

      Stats and numbers don’t lie

    • @Lester_Dahyun_TWICE
      @Lester_Dahyun_TWICE День тому

      ​@@Goo_FYLoC
      1💍> Stats & numbers

    • @mattsell2361
      @mattsell2361 День тому +2

      @@Goo_FYLoCmore like aura doesn’t lie 😂 that’s the only argument for sga

    • @Goo_FYLoC
      @Goo_FYLoC День тому +1

      @mattsell2361 SGA averaged more points, assists, blocks and steals than Tatum and also average a higher FG, 3PT and true shooting percentage than Tatum in 2024 playoffs. The only thing that Tatum did better was rebounds and FT percentage. Tatum also had a higher turnover rate. Celtics carried Tatum when he shot horribly and played badly in some playoffs game this year.

    • @Yoofen
      @Yoofen 22 години тому

      @@Goo_FYLoC boxscore watcher lmao

  • @andrewharmon4209
    @andrewharmon4209 2 дні тому +1

    When was the last time Embiid AND George were both healthy in April, May, and June? If either of them go down this team has no shot which is why it is so hard to build around injury prone players.

  • @4Fam
    @4Fam 2 дні тому +3

    Luka’s not a top 5 player he’s a top 5 offensive player. He scores 30 and gives up 35, that’s not good at all.

    • @keeganandersson4281
      @keeganandersson4281 2 дні тому +1

      Let’s be honest though, Mavs don’t get to the finals without him. You put Tatum or SGA in his place and they don’t get there

    • @4Fam
      @4Fam 2 дні тому +2

      @@keeganandersson4281 if they had Tatum there winning that chip, Tatum can average 30 and play defense Luka can’t.

    • @kaekae1782
      @kaekae1782 17 годин тому +1

      @@4Fam mam shut up

  • @zmyGe
    @zmyGe 2 дні тому +1

    Tatum is top 5 players with rings. In the past 7 years

  • @carringtonglasgow6694
    @carringtonglasgow6694 2 дні тому +2

    Who cares, my man is a champion! Top 5 in my book (right now)

  • @nelxson2000
    @nelxson2000 2 дні тому +27

    I will never understand how anyone can pick Shai Gilgeous-Alexander over Jayson Tatum....But hey let the others fight over being the best regular-season player cause Tatum outgrew that early on. He knows it's about WINNING!

    • @thuanchau7042
      @thuanchau7042 2 дні тому +8

      stats don't lie and game tape don't lie. sga is better and is way more consistent every game than tatum jacking up 3s. sga all day.

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 2 дні тому +5

      Tatum is a poor mans version of Paul George, with less skill
      SGA is wayyyy better than Tatum

    • @JonathanEvans1977
      @JonathanEvans1977 2 дні тому +3

      Because he's literally better than Tatum. Tatum plays on a better team so yeah he won a chip but that doesn't make him a better individual player than SGA. SGA is clearly a superior player. Tatum isn't even the best player on his own team lol. It was Jaylen who won playoffs and finals mvp. It was Jaylen who was the best player on the celtics the entire playoffs.

    • @nelxson2000
      @nelxson2000 2 дні тому +2

      @@thuanchau7042 Stats lie if 1) you view them through a biased view and are not actually broken down properly and 2) you do not take time to watch games too cause a lot of actions do not show up on the stat sheet.

    • @anshkaushik7920
      @anshkaushik7920 2 дні тому +3

      @@JonathanEvans1977Tatum led in points rebounds assissts. Also you prolly think Iggy > Steph and Cedric Maxwell > Larry bird

  • @seanisabel
    @seanisabel 2 дні тому +3

    Yes he is a top 5 player!

  • @immortalfit
    @immortalfit 2 дні тому +12

    Tatum doesn’t have a weakness, he’s top 4. Giannis, embid, jokic, Tatum

    • @AlveyLiwanag
      @AlveyLiwanag 2 дні тому +6

      Lukas ahead of him

    • @immortalfit
      @immortalfit 2 дні тому +1

      @@AlveyLiwanag in popularity, not as as an all around basketball player

    • @kleatise52
      @kleatise52 2 дні тому +2

      He has plenty of weakness. He shoot’s too much. He doesn’t finish well enough. His shooting splits these playoffs were atrocious. He’s no dynamic play maker. He’s a great player, but he certainly only won the title because the Celtics had by far the best team in the league around his all nba talent.

    • @LLSRT
      @LLSRT 2 дні тому +1

      @@kleatise52luka is a terrible defender, cries to the refs on a constant basis, he’s a very average free throw shooter about 73% which is crazy cause he foul baits, he chucks up crazy step back 3s when unnecessary, and he tends to go into 1 on 1 mode way to often💯

    • @Legiey
      @Legiey День тому +1

      Clutch gene?

  • @G_Martin
    @G_Martin День тому +3

    Shai is not better than Tatum.

  • @user-vy2co6kk1x
    @user-vy2co6kk1x 2 дні тому +1

    Boa tarde congrats vai amén bom trabalho

  • @josephgarcia4475
    @josephgarcia4475 2 дні тому +1

    Jokic, luka, giannis, tatum, and sga.

  • @davidjones5547
    @davidjones5547 2 дні тому +2

    I would take Tatum over Luca because Luca plays NO defense. He probably gives up almost as much as he scores

    • @Goo_FYLoC
      @Goo_FYLoC День тому

      Hmm Tatum is better defensively and Luka is better offensively

    • @irvingzeistman9828
      @irvingzeistman9828 День тому +1

      Stop this nonsense. Luka is an average defender but defence is more of a team thing than an individual thing. Argument could also be made that Luka is tired from carrying his team all night on the offensive end while Tatum can do noting and they can still win because the rest of his roster is so stacked. Luka > Tatum and it ain’t really close

    • @bmcfonzie
      @bmcfonzie День тому

      @@irvingzeistman9828 The Mavs "team defense" consists of the three other guys trying to make up for Luka and Kyrie getting blown by.

  • @Suge8263
    @Suge8263 2 дні тому +1

    He been top five he got the game and the chip now yall gonna stop acting like the celtics would be the same without him

    • @mattsell2361
      @mattsell2361 День тому

      I like how the Celtics are simultaneously so stacked this ring is too and shouldn’t and they are full of chokers and trash overrated players 😂

  • @Nostalgia9478
    @Nostalgia9478 2 дні тому +6

    I can name 10 players who are better than Tatum, in no particular order
    Jokic, Luka, SGA, ANT, AD, Bron, Jaylen Brown, Kawhii, KD, Giannis, Curry
    Thats 11 right there

    • @hoopslegends2900
      @hoopslegends2900 2 дні тому +4

      Take out over half of those players and you would be correct

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 2 дні тому

      @@hoopslegends2900Too bad reality vehemently disagrees with you

    • @alexanderdemella6228
      @alexanderdemella6228 2 дні тому

      No Jalen Brunson??

    • @Nostalgia9478
      @Nostalgia9478 2 дні тому

      @@alexanderdemella6228Brunson is better than Tatum too

    • @comradeyellow6781
      @comradeyellow6781 2 дні тому +5

      @@Nostalgia9478 what reality, the one in your head? lmao half the names you got up there are washed

  • @bmcfonzie
    @bmcfonzie День тому

    Everyone anointed Luka as "MVP adjacent" before he was ready for it. He's otherworldly on offense, but the Celtics went at him on defense over and over again with great success. On the other hand, Tatum guards 1-5 and does it well. That's a huge discrepancy, which is why I have Tatum top five and Luka outside it.

  • @bossp6624
    @bossp6624 2 дні тому +2

    Wasn't Drummond the backup C in Philly before? Didn't help then. Won't help now

    • @knowmekingsquad9898
      @knowmekingsquad9898 2 дні тому +1

      They ain’t have pg before tf😂😂

    • @bossp6624
      @bossp6624 2 дні тому +1

      @@knowmekingsquad9898 bro you can't read 😂. I clearly said Drummond

    • @noneofyourbusiness-wo3bd
      @noneofyourbusiness-wo3bd День тому

      They'll run Drummond into the ground on offense. And Paul George he'll miss half the season it's not a contract year.

  • @asantesimmons4077
    @asantesimmons4077 2 дні тому

    This is how tech works, Everyone is adopting the tech start up enterprise growth approach. Stake and equity but not immediate power.

  • @terrencerobinson
    @terrencerobinson 2 дні тому +15

    Tha last 2 seasons he's been first team all NBA sounds like top five to me

    • @karmicthunda4481
      @karmicthunda4481 2 дні тому +3

      Make that 3 seasons in a row first team all nba, two of those years positional so he was voted best at his position unlike how it is now. But your comment won’t get as much exposure cuz it makes too much sense

    • @jeremiahsmith7706
      @jeremiahsmith7706 2 дні тому +1

      @@terrencerobinson that means you believe Randle was a top 15 player last year lol. Terrible way to rank

    • @karmicthunda4481
      @karmicthunda4481 2 дні тому +3

      @@jeremiahsmith7706 he averaged 25 10 and 4. He was.

    • @scruffd0g193
      @scruffd0g193 2 дні тому

      So has sga on a far younger team.

    • @Amillionfamily
      @Amillionfamily 2 дні тому

      @@scruffd0g193he averaged over 30 two years in a row no first team

  • @turzyn40
    @turzyn40 День тому

    You got Embid ahead of Tatum if he's healthy, but Tatum just won a Championship and has played way better in the playoffs than Embid. While Embid hasn't even reached the conference finals. Even if he's healthy, so what if he sucks in the playoffs.

  • @giffondhall9214
    @giffondhall9214 День тому

    Off course

  • @Anonymoususer901
    @Anonymoususer901 2 дні тому +1

    If yall think embiid better than tatum you're funny. He cant even get out of the second round.
    Tatim can do everything shai can + better defense. The only players i epuld put over Tatum is Giannis, Jokic and Luka

    • @Goo_FYLoC
      @Goo_FYLoC День тому

      Healthy Embiid is better but he’s injury prone, dude get injured every playoffs . Tatum is better now because he’s more durable

  • @Makeaocbartendagain2
    @Makeaocbartendagain2 17 годин тому

    I wish NBA talk was about who is going to win not who is the best player. You can rank Tatum 50th in the league but if he brings Boston 3 more chips I will be happy.

  • @africadondada6555
    @africadondada6555 2 дні тому +1

    No. He was asked to do LESS with MORE

    • @Goo_FYLoC
      @Goo_FYLoC День тому

      How? He still took 20 shots per game and shot 38% FG

  • @Ant25396
    @Ant25396 День тому

    At least he getting compared to actual stars now & not Kyle kuzma😂

  • @adonis.k3282
    @adonis.k3282 2 дні тому +1

    Jaylen Brown winning MVP saved us from the LUKA & TATUM STANS/ ESPN forcing us to believe that their the best 😭🙅🏾‍♂️

    • @irvingzeistman9828
      @irvingzeistman9828 День тому +2

      Browns maybe the 15th best player in the league I dunno

    • @adonis.k3282
      @adonis.k3282 День тому

      @@irvingzeistman9828 which is far from the point 😭 #1 still up for grabs & still Debatable

    • @irvingzeistman9828
      @irvingzeistman9828 День тому

      #1 as in the league ? Jokic hands down .

    • @adonis.k3282
      @adonis.k3282 День тому

      @@irvingzeistman9828 gotta be good on BOTH SIDES of the court to the the Best

    • @irvingzeistman9828
      @irvingzeistman9828 День тому

      He is good on both sides of the ball. 3 mvps a championship a finals mvp all time historic stats 1st player to lead the playoffs in points rebounds and assists all in 4 years . YUP he’s the best and it drives you nuts . LoL

  • @philliphart6327
    @philliphart6327 День тому

    Celtics has an ownership group, not a single owner. It is not 100% for sale because the ownership group plans to buy Wyc out over the next 4 years. Then it is up to them if they want to sell the majority share, which they probably won’t.
    Steve Pagliuca, the other face of the ownership group and lifelong Celtics fan will likely become majority owner and governor of the group. He has said he wants to stay.

  • @kennethadams8460
    @kennethadams8460 2 дні тому

    now are the Celtics a top 5. Ok sure. ‘ALL THEIR PLAYERS”

  • @Ausnapify
    @Ausnapify 2 дні тому +1

    Guess you need something to talk about. Why not take a break?

  • @alvarochan1829
    @alvarochan1829 2 дні тому

    >>.Why all the talk about Tatum?, Who was the MVP both finals and conference?

  • @jemonecochran7367
    @jemonecochran7367 День тому

    Thing is, I got Tatum on top 5 but I can see certain ppl replacing his position (ppl like Anthony Davis) what I don’t understand, is how is Giannis not number 1 on most ppl lists? How is he below Luka? Y is SGA even on a top five list?

    • @irvingzeistman9828
      @irvingzeistman9828 День тому

      Giannis to limited offensively , no jumper , great player tho

  • @MemesOfProduction69
    @MemesOfProduction69 2 дні тому +5

    not even the best player on his own team and ESPNM has the audacity to claim he is top 5?

    • @dexter-jy3yk
      @dexter-jy3yk 2 дні тому +3

      How is he not the best player of his team

    • @MemesOfProduction69
      @MemesOfProduction69 2 дні тому +2

      @@dexter-jy3yk because JB is a better player

    • @anshkaushik7920
      @anshkaushik7920 2 дні тому +6

      @@MemesOfProduction69who lead in points rebounds assist?

    • @mambasplash2423
      @mambasplash2423 2 дні тому +1

      @@anshkaushik7920 and also turnovers

    • @anshkaushik7920
      @anshkaushik7920 2 дні тому +3

      @@mambasplash2423 lebron is the all time leader in turnovers is he a fraud?

  • @MambaSSG
    @MambaSSG 2 дні тому

    jokic,luca,giannis,shai and wemby

  • @enrijsvelmunskis7029
    @enrijsvelmunskis7029 День тому

    Who won the chip? Soooo. Their starting 5 are the best player's in the league. I'm guessing he is top 5.

  • @seanisabel
    @seanisabel 2 дні тому

    Please don't sell to John Henry! Look what he did to the Red Sox. He shuld have never let Mookie go.

  • @johnbledsoe8490
    @johnbledsoe8490 2 дні тому

    Is he even the beat player on his team

  • @will7929
    @will7929 2 дні тому

    Can we relax about top 5 and whatever, he’s a great player and deserves the money he just gave them a chip

  • @troybender1936
    @troybender1936 2 дні тому

    DO this girls sentences ever end?

  • @charlessims409
    @charlessims409 День тому

    Greek Jokic Luka Embiid Tatum. .. Best 5. Jaylen might feel he needs a bump in pay after this playoff run though.

  • @kn0itso0903
    @kn0itso0903 День тому

    Put tatum in charlotte and theyre gonna crown him the best player in the Nba

  • @JS96919
    @JS96919 2 дні тому

    Tatum and brown are actually both top 5-8

  • @JBouch33
    @JBouch33 День тому

    Thumbnail says dbeates. C'mon man, get it together, ESPN. An extra two seconds to proofread will not affect things.

  • @JoseLopez-kv1lr
    @JoseLopez-kv1lr 2 дні тому +1

    Top eight ..
    *jokic
    *Giannis
    *jimmy
    *kawhi(when healthy)
    *SGA
    *steph
    *AD
    *Lebron

    • @kaysheye7784
      @kaysheye7784 2 дні тому

      SGA, Kawhi, AD but no Embiid, alright

    • @accordgolfer
      @accordgolfer 2 дні тому

      Definitely not Jimmy

    • @jamesjefferson3809
      @jamesjefferson3809 2 дні тому +2

      Jimmy and Kawhi? Hell no

    • @Jackson54321
      @Jackson54321 2 дні тому +1

      this is a joke. Feels like everybody just forgot Tatum won a ring as the number one on his team. Stats back it up, usage wise backs it up, Jaylen is only better at defense. Come on

    • @JoseLopez-kv1lr
      @JoseLopez-kv1lr 2 дні тому

      ​@@kaysheye7784 Can't. he's great in the regular season but doesn't show up in playoffs.. his PER drops down 8 number that isn't really a good sign.. consistence is key, he don't got it

  • @miketavars4201
    @miketavars4201 2 дні тому

    Sga over Jason is SICK, please give me a break. Jason is better than Luka and sga

  • @Henry_Smith_862
    @Henry_Smith_862 2 дні тому +3

    He's a Champ. Nuff said.

    • @jamesmoore9636
      @jamesmoore9636 2 дні тому

      Last player on the bench who didn't get no run is a Champ so what does that mean LOL 😂

  • @ZackS099
    @ZackS099 День тому

    Andre Drummond really?

  • @BAMAMADEMG
    @BAMAMADEMG 2 дні тому

    I’m not mad at it, wen jokic won they put him in top 5 and before that they wasn’t talking about him like that

    • @wilhelm4321
      @wilhelm4321 2 дні тому +2

      Jokic had an mvp and was mvp of the finals

    • @BAMAMADEMG
      @BAMAMADEMG 2 дні тому

      @@wilhelm4321 I said before all of that

    • @Goo_FYLoC
      @Goo_FYLoC День тому

      Jokic has more accolades and he put up way better stats in the finals

  • @grandturismo1381
    @grandturismo1381 2 дні тому +1

    ESPN sinking... lol who still watches ?

  • @Nostalgia9478
    @Nostalgia9478 2 дні тому

    Paul George>>>>LeTatumBRICK
    Not sayin Sixers will win a series vs Celts, but Pg13 will def outplay Tatum

  • @sportsguy25
    @sportsguy25 День тому

    I’m sick of this. No way in hell is SGA top 5

  • @JMBM44
    @JMBM44 2 дні тому

    He s number 3 on his team alone

  • @k-black2385
    @k-black2385 2 дні тому

    It doesn't matter if JT Money is top 5. He is #1 when it comes to being the highest paid player in NBA HISTORY stick that in your pipe and smoke it

  • @mattsell2361
    @mattsell2361 День тому

    I like how the Celtics are simultaneously so stacked this ring is too and shouldn’t and they are full of chokers and trash overrated players 😂

  • @mtadams2009
    @mtadams2009 День тому

    So what am I supposed to feel bad for some rich owner because Tatum is making bank. Without the players there is no team and no winning.

  • @jamesmoore9636
    @jamesmoore9636 2 дні тому

    If you could pick your starting 5 out of all the players in the league, you mean to tell me (in my Judge Joe Brown voice) one of them would be Tatum 🤔

    • @chemicalhap
      @chemicalhap 2 дні тому +2

      Yes. Consistently impactful, consistent and highly adaptable in whatever you ask of him. 2 way at the highest level. Guards on ball and off ball from 1 to 5. Sets screens, great court vision, elite rebounder. Made the ECF almost every year with varying skiled teams and systems. Improved every year. Hell yes.

    • @jamesmoore9636
      @jamesmoore9636 2 дні тому

      @chemicalhap Tatum is a big time choker, tried to steal finals MVP, but it didn't work, how can you be top 5 and you not even playoffs or finals MVP of your team, make that make sense 🤔

    • @keeganandersson4281
      @keeganandersson4281 2 дні тому +1

      @@jamesmoore9636 Tatum led in every statistical category in both ECF and finals, but Brown got both because of some iconic plays. Tatum didn’t play bad to not get the MVP, Brown just played exceptional. Makes sense to me 🤷🏼‍♂️ and ftr, Brown is also a top 10 player in the NBA

    • @bmcfonzie
      @bmcfonzie День тому

      He plays point forward, can score, rebound, and distribute and play high level defense on all positions. Uhhh...yeah. You're telling me he wouldn't be one of your starting five? By the way, this is not some controversial take, because he is literally first team All-NBA the last three years.

  • @philliphart6327
    @philliphart6327 День тому

    Windy, learn how to say the man’s name

  • @antant908
    @antant908 2 дні тому

    Top ten asset in the world nah that’s just nostalgia

  • @tymireaster9429
    @tymireaster9429 2 дні тому

    Master chef oh nah lol we need Shannon & Molly etc back

  • @avatardom7120
    @avatardom7120 2 дні тому

    So if taytum isn’t top 5 then they won’t a championship without a top 5 player ? In the modern nba when was this last done. ?

    • @drippystyles8295
      @drippystyles8295 2 дні тому +2

      Define modern cuz my suggestion would be the pistons or the spurs with old man Tim Duncan

    • @avatardom7120
      @avatardom7120 2 дні тому

      @@drippystyles8295 I’d agree both of them but when I say modern I’m talking the 3 ball cheese era

    • @drippystyles8295
      @drippystyles8295 2 дні тому +1

      @avatardom7120 ohhh. Yea that hasn't happened before this. Curry, Bron, Jokic, Giannis. Only thing you could somewhat argue is Toronto. Prior to that run, I don't recall how highly regarded Kawhi was with those injuries.

    • @avatardom7120
      @avatardom7120 2 дні тому

      @@drippystyles8295 that raptors season was kinda fluke golden state was all injured otherwise they prolly lose that in 5 but yea i don’t remember if was considered top 5 at the time but that season he was ballin

    • @drippystyles8295
      @drippystyles8295 2 дні тому +1

      @@avatardom7120 I don't disagree at all. I think Dubs would've still won with a healthy Klay. They couldn't check him one on one and weren't going to double him.

  • @DRMZ37
    @DRMZ37 2 дні тому

    I cant put Embiid top 5 especially if he cant stay healthy

  • @martinstaton7229
    @martinstaton7229 2 дні тому

    That's crazy as hell. You still got ownership but yet imma pay for the team plus the debt owed and you still have control of the franchise for X amount of years. You can keep it all, you gotta be desperate

  • @junebuggybugg420
    @junebuggybugg420 День тому

    I would take Tatum over sga. Sga is Alot older than y'all think. And I'll take Tatum over Luka. Basketball is played two ways. I would rather have a guy like Tatum who can score like best in league and also play top tier defense. Giannis is a freak of nature but he's got to add to his bag of tricks. And jokic is great but he's not getting any better than he is now. He's reached his peak. Jayson Tatum 26 years old. Just now entering his prime.

  • @zmyGe
    @zmyGe 2 дні тому

    Isn't that the same deal as Cuban? Sell and still control the team? Lol

  • @PutXi_Whipped
    @PutXi_Whipped 2 дні тому +1

    Bashing Tatum just to glaze that fraud Embiid is pathetic

  • @IQenjoyer
    @IQenjoyer 2 дні тому

    I’m going to listen to the all nba voters (people who know ball) over all you random idiots saying he’s not. Consecutive 1st team all nba says he is.

  • @thuanchau7042
    @thuanchau7042 2 дні тому

    jb is better than jt and he is getting better while jt is regressing.

  • @picki7726
    @picki7726 2 дні тому

    Celtics are doing what the dodgers are doing but tatum and the chumps arent no ohtani

  • @brandonmaryland
    @brandonmaryland 2 дні тому

    2:15 who cares remember when Mike Connolly Junior was the highest paid player in the NBA 😂 he never even made a All-Star😂

  • @moralesjose1200
    @moralesjose1200 2 дні тому

    I feel like klay should've went to Lakers better because he would've fit well with them plus Lakers desperately need a 3rd player and klay could've fit that piece now there is no way Lakers are winning a championship next season

  • @alexgalarza6908
    @alexgalarza6908 2 дні тому

    SGA is not yet a top 5 player yet cmon. 1 great season and he already in peoples top 5????

    • @mattsell2361
      @mattsell2361 День тому

      I like how this whole year it’s been if Tatum doesn’t win he’s a trash choker yet guys like ant, SGA, embiid are all better then Tatum for underperforming in the playoffs 😂

  • @pantelisliakos2481
    @pantelisliakos2481 2 дні тому

    No. He is barely top10. He is fighting for that spot with Jimmy and D-Book. I am not even sure if he is better than Jamal & Donovan

  • @SeanBell-gg7xv
    @SeanBell-gg7xv 2 дні тому

    IDGAF about injury nothing to do with skill when embid is on the floor easy top 3

  • @jalynjones9136
    @jalynjones9136 2 дні тому

    Saying sga before embiid get her off the show please

    • @keeganandersson4281
      @keeganandersson4281 2 дні тому

      Honestly I think it’s a valid opinion. Embiid is never healthy for long enough to actually win and help his team. SGA is just now entering his prime and was in the top 3 for MVP this past season.

  • @OGteamm2246
    @OGteamm2246 2 дні тому +2

    *Sees Title
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    Comment "No"
    *Leave Video

  • @EdwardWilliams-gv2qv
    @EdwardWilliams-gv2qv 2 дні тому

    I think jaylen brown little better than tatum

  • @xxflamegamingxx1498
    @xxflamegamingxx1498 2 дні тому

    Daryl morey a master chef lmaooo espn is a joke

  • @ADM-nx8gn
    @ADM-nx8gn 2 дні тому

    Lazy segment you did 50 times

  • @scorch1624
    @scorch1624 2 дні тому +2

    Jokic-Luka-Shai-Giannis-Embiid(🤢), Tatum is barely top 10

    • @yousufkh_
      @yousufkh_ 2 дні тому

      Explain please

    • @karmicthunda4481
      @karmicthunda4481 2 дні тому +1

      Embiid has never beaten Tatum in the playoffs in like 4 tries and SGA just now made it to the second round and is only 4 months younger than Tatum…u don’t understand basketball

    • @boblully5053
      @boblully5053 2 дні тому +2

      @@karmicthunda4481embid isn’t a whole team lol tatum has the best team that’s like saying in baseball shohei ohtani is bad because his team loses

    • @OtakuMainer
      @OtakuMainer 2 дні тому +1

      Luka doesn't play defense...

    • @boblully5053
      @boblully5053 2 дні тому

      @@OtakuMainer luka shot 66% guarded by tatum lol tatum isn’t good at defense either

  • @overkill666100
    @overkill666100 2 дні тому

    Tatum isn’t even the best player on the Celtics, why else would the Mavs double him?

    • @Goo_FYLoC
      @Goo_FYLoC День тому

      True but he shot 38% FG

  • @Dundealmusic
    @Dundealmusic 2 дні тому +12

    He wasn't top 5 in The 2024 Playoffs...What we talmbout???
    Brunson, Jokic, Edwards, Luka, SGA, then Jalen Brown.

    • @LeisureKingLou-jc2re
      @LeisureKingLou-jc2re 2 дні тому +5

      Clown 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @dexter-jy3yk
      @dexter-jy3yk 2 дні тому +4

      😂🤡

    • @iMixMaSteR1
      @iMixMaSteR1 2 дні тому +1

      Sga is overrated

    • @benkocur8375
      @benkocur8375 2 дні тому +2

      You are cooked bro lmao, Jokic is the one player on that list better than Tatum

    • @Goo_FYLoC
      @Goo_FYLoC День тому

      @@LeisureKingLou-jc2re it’s fact. Tatum stats ain’t that good compared to those guys

  • @jonathansykes4986
    @jonathansykes4986 День тому

    lol imagine thinking jaylen brown is top 10. clueless.

  • @SmartPsychopat1
    @SmartPsychopat1 2 дні тому

    SGA is not a certified top 5 player, I am tired of hearing this.
    Base on the last 4 seasons, there are certified 4 names, Jokic, Giannis, doncic & Embid...Tatum, Curry ,LeBron, Booker & KD will battle for the last spot.

  • @__-fn7nx
    @__-fn7nx 2 дні тому

    It was more like 26 10 7 and only 6 players have averaged that stat line or more in the playoffs stop rounding down
    The year before Tatum lead the league in total points, sure you can average 34ppg but means f*** all if you can only play 50 games and are a no show in the post season fit or not

  • @Sc19869
    @Sc19869 2 дні тому

    How is the economy so bad for us regular folks. These athletes and owners are swimming in money

    • @Jackson54321
      @Jackson54321 2 дні тому +1

      the disparity is very very very large

    • @Sc19869
      @Sc19869 2 дні тому

      @@Jackson54321 different worlds it seems