Monster Canister Filter - SunSun's 704-B, Full Cleaning plus Tips to Improve Performance
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SunSun's beast of a canister filter, the 704-B, gets cleaned and set up for maximum performance. It's rated at 525 gallons per hour (without media) and includes a UV light option.
Check it out and let me know what you think, including comments and suggestions on the set up. I'm always learning.
For those of you alarmed by my blue balls, rest assured that they have since been replaced (it was the only media I had on hand when I filmed this video).
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Thanks Ben you and the Cichlid family have been a tremendous help in the hobby.
Just got a 704b and found this video. Thanks for the thorough explanation. I learned quite a few things
Thanks Charlie, I hope it helped.
Thank you for your videos, I just purchased one 704 after your video gave me important info about the sunsun canister. Regards from Slovenia
Mario
I glad that you found it helpful Mario.
Love your videos! So relaxing. Thanks for the step by step instructions. I’ll definitely use it.
You are welcome and I hope it helps.
Using the log is a great idea Ben! Thank You
Rick's Aquatics Yes, I find it very helpful, especially with several tanks.
Thanks for watching!
I set my sunsun top into 5 gal bucket, wings out to hold it. That way I can not break the quartz uv tube no matter how much I bang around doing the cleaning. Thanks for sharing!
I just purchased 2 of the 704 filters can't wait to get them going, I may add another set to my tanks, I'm going to run these with my UG filters and see how they work. Thank you for a good lesson in tbe disassemble and reassemble of the filter.
They are proven workhorses that I’m sure you will be happy with.
Hello Ben,
Thanks for your video on the SunSun 704B. I'm setting up a 150g African Cichlids (AC) tank in the next couple months. After watching your 704B video I've decided to give this filter a try. As you've pointed out, good care, attention to details on the filter cleaning and maintenance should yeild years of good performance.
I'll put 2 filters on the tank, this should be excellent filtration. I was looking at the (Rena) API FILSTAR XP-XL filter. I used to have a 135G AC tank and they worked great for years with no problems but at $200 each that hurts.
Your fish and tank look great 😃 healthy, beautiful colors.
Thanks again Ben.
I believe that you will be happy. I have removed the Fluval FX-6 from my 135 and only run two SunSun 704-Bs. They are doing a good job and have a intake that isn't so huge as the Fluval. The Fluval was moved to a new 100 gal that has a black background, so the massive intake is hidden.
Thanks for stopping by and please let me know how it goes with those SunSuns.
I’m gonna get two of these Sunsun filters for my 414 liter/110 gallon community tank. I think they look amazing and worth every penny.
I’ve had great luck with them. Service them two weeks apart and you’ll avoid shocking the tank.
Ben: Thanks for re-highlighted these older videos. I'm a relatively new subscriber and appreciate it. I love filter-themed videos. I now feel like I'm "in the know" with regard to jokes in your other videos about your black and blue balls.
It was a terrible joke, LOL, thanks for watching LL.
Thanks for the video. I bought two 302's after I watched one of your videos. I'm going to run them in series with a CO2 reactor on a planted tank.
That sounds pretty epic. Be sure to share and post a video on the set up. I'm thinking of adding pre-filters to my 302s on the 60 gal and have them be the sponges, making the 302s all bio media. What do you think?
I have a sunsun 304b on a 40gallon breeder tank and really like it so I purchased a 704b for a 90gallon that I’m in the process of building. Can’t beat their performance for the price
Found this very informant.Thank you very much for sharing this for people who are just beginning and don't know how to start up their Sun sun filtering system.I just started at 75 gallon aquarium and trying to get it up.And going so I can get fish in the near future.Hopefully, thank you very much.Have an awesome day
Glad it was helpful!
wow thanks again I'm going to use some of that pinky filter also. thank you👌
You're welcome George. I hope you find the tips helpful.
great job I learned a lot for my sun sun canister
Jairo Rodriguez That's great! Thanks for watching.
I used your approach and also have a backup to my fx6’ in both my tanks.
It just bugs me the sunsun is from China lol.
Another great video, with much more great knowledge love it!!!
Thank you Jay, I appreciate the kind words.
Very welcome!!!
I got blue balls a little while ago but had a hard time appreciating them the way you do. Took me a week to get rid of them.... ;)
Bad dog! LOL!
Thanks for the info.
You're welcome!
This is the first video I watched tht I can say I'm gonna do my sevice on the sun sun and I think it will be positive. I've been in the dark wit the trays. I think I found my water issues. Aaaand I did not know tht valve will close off the tubes. I've flooded my place twice
I’m glad you found it helpful
I currently run two of these and a fluval FX6 for a 240 with 2 Oscars and 7 fully grown green terrors, and 6 redhead severums, the sunsun works phenomenal, they may be Chinese but frankly you can put more media in there than in the FX6
aren't these monsters!!! I know a lot of people who don't approve of sunsun but I can't say anything bad about them.... awesome filters , I wish I could afford a 350$ canister filter, but 75$ im down with sunsun!
I hear you. The 704B is a beast. Moves a lot of water and has been problem free for me.
another great video ben! at first I saw your trays and was surprised to see how empty they are compared to mine, on my top trey I run some poly fil and pinky foam as a last stand for particulate matter and I don't use any chemical in any of my tanks. I have noticed when I put it all back together and clip the hoses in I can flip the switch/lock and it will siphon and vent automatically before I plug it in, so i don't fill it anymore I just snap the top on and go. while it fills it likes to "burp" out a lot of crap so on the outlet in the tank I attach a hose and while it fills and for the first few minutes after I plug it in "about 10 gallons" is drained off so I'm not putting all of that debris back into the water.
I love all of your tanks and many of your videos were the inspiration when I first got my african cichlids.
Great tip on the canister. I sometimes put a net over the output to catch some of the detritus. It's a lot less when I include cleaning the tubes but I only do that every other servicing.
Thank you for the kind words. I'm glad I helped get you more into this great hobby!
If you are getting brown slimy stuff out of your hoses that is your beneficial bacteria coming loose from the hoses. You want that stuff back in your filter so you should just let the filter run and recapture it. Anything that is on your filters and is brown and slimy you want to save unless it is impeding the filter like in the impeller.
Just ordered this for my marineland C-500
tank looking great 👌
Thanks Ruben.
That filter is indeed a monster and could hold loads of good filter media.
It could be the same as one sold over here (UK) called the APS 2000 which is a great one for heavily stocked tanks due to it holding around 5kg of media. There is a small media space in the FX6 considering it's total size compared to the SunSun or similar traditional square filter so I'd say go for the SunSun over the FX6 any day.
Hello Pondguru, I appreciate you stopping by my channel. A year or two ago I gave you a shout-out in my most popular video ("African Cichlids: 10 Tips" here: ua-cam.com/video/eKC0AFQvNBY/v-deo.html ).
You're right, the SunSun's massive baskets can hold a large amount of media. The large wall sponges inside the Fluval take up a lot of the inside space of the canister. The materials of the Fluval are superior, but is it worth 3 times the cost of a 704-B? That's the debate.
Thanks for watching!
Yes fluvals definitely have good quality foam and media but the space devoted to foam is often at the expense of media space so I'd say go for the cheaper filter and upgrade it with decent foams and good media as it will work out cheaper and you'll get more media in there which will ultimately result in healthier water as clear water is not always healthy.
However saying that in the video you reference the water looks like air - awesomely clear and definitely healthy too as the color of the clown loaches will bear testament to. It's strange seeing clown loaches in with malawis but the color of the fish told me that they were doing very well.
That's been my response to folks that mention how Clowns will not do well in the high pH needed for ACs. I always say, "Look at them and tell me if you think that they are not thriving." It is very refreshing to have someone that actually observes the condition before criticizing. Thank you sir.
No worries, clown loaches are definitely the best indicator of water health as their stripes range from charcoal grey to jet black.
If wild clown loaches were plucked from their natural home and put in a malawi tank I reckon they wouldn't look too happy but the vast majority of fish are bred and raised in water conditions which are nothing like natural conditions so they tend to be more adaptable than many years ago when they were nearer to the wild strains.
I'm going to get the prefilter for this canister and fill the whole canister with biohome, okay maybe one polish pad :)
Hi Ben, I really enjoyed your video ! It was very informative and reminded me of some of your older videos on canister maintenance. You actually surprised me by using the floating bio balls as media. It's not that they won't work but that type of media is often used in certain sump applications like mine. If you decide to change it, I would recommend a product that IFG and I use called Growstone which is nothing more than Pumice Stone and is very porous and inexpensive. You can get it From Amazon or eBay. I also noticed you were not using any ceramic rings in the very bottom of the canister like you do on your smaller units. Otherwise I really enjoyed this video and look forward to your next one.
Hello Dennis! I might throw a few rings in the bottom and pumice is sounding real good to me. Hope the move went well and that all your babies are doing well.
That Tramitichromis Intermedius is gorgeous!! One of my favorite Africans. Very elegant fish. Also! Very informative video. I just purchased a 180 gallon aquarium, and instead of purchasing an FX6, I thought I would give the sunsun 704 a chance. If I like it, I'll buy another for the 180, and another for my 55 as well.
John McIntyre how are you liking them now after a little bit a time?
I use Bio-Home Ultimate in all my canister filters. for the natural beneficial bacteria, but it also will lower the Nitrates as. well over time. I have used every form of media over the years and nothing comes close...good video as always
I'm using biohome in my 60. I heard that for nitrate reduction in a cichild tank one needs a kilo of biohome for every 15 gallons. That's a lot of biohome.
it's a lot , but is worth it. you do less water changes , you have better water quality and you don't waste money every 6 months in chemicals like chemi-pure or similar stuff.
Thanks Ben got it lol your channel is great😎
Thank you Alfred, much appreciated!
Omg... “the balls.... the balls”!!!!! Sorry Ben.. couldn’t resist! Thx for the vid! Helpful!
The blue balls were a gift. I'm currently using them to dampen noise in my sump. Never underestimate the many uses for blue balls. (LOL)
Ben Ochart definitely!!! They do come in handy 😂
If you add pre filters on the intake, it actually increases bacteria growth, reduces detritus, and keeps the canister cleaner longer.
Yes! Check this out: ua-cam.com/video/jSTP4SHwgaA/v-deo.html
Great video Ben👍🏻 I'm sure it was a pain & took twice as long only having one hand!😂 Thanks for the vid. Very helpful as usual
Thank you CS, I'm just passing it forward. I got so much help from YT videos when I got things going, so I'm just keeping it going. I appreciate your visit to the channel!
Keeping a record is a good idea
thanks for the video this is going to help me out I have to of them and they're set up the way they normally come going to add some purigen and chemi pure blue Pinkie filter. thanks
Yes, you gottan "Pimp that Filter" to really get the most out of it. I usually order without media because I like to get creative with the set up. But the fundamentals remain the same: sponges/floss in the bottom tray so the cleanest water possible passes over the living bacteria, then, last, chemical, last so that you're not dosing the beneficial bacteria with chem.
Good luck with your set up and certainly reach out if you need some advice.
I know this video is old now, but I have a hack you can use for bioballs. I used fishing line to string bunches of bioballs together to make it easy for me to use and service on my HOBs. Grab one and the rest come with it kinda like grapes on a vine. You're welcome! :)
cool video just set my sunsun up
Thanks for watching Jordan, much appreciated and good luck with your SunSun.
I have this filter as a spare now.
Me too 😀
Betcha that was slightly difficult to do one handed for the sake of the video. Wow, I just saw the date of this video, LOL..three years behind. I guess it caught my attention because I will be adding purigen to my canister filter this week. I run Penn plax canisters and they work the same way.
Still holds today (but I got rid of the blue balls)
Thanks Mr. Ben so inspirational. Just got my sun sun 304b in yesterday and this video walked me thru how and where which media goes where. Once again ty and keep the info and beautiful fish videos coming iur way... You are also appreciated
Thank you neil for the kind words of inspiration 😀
neil cole just make sure you don’t leave your UV light on with the 304. It WILL melt your plastic trays. I learned the hard way
@@timsgarage1861 ty sir ill definitely keep that in mind
Thank you Ben for your video. I've got my 704b ordered and just watched how you clean and reload it and it will help me immensely. I've got a 75 gallon Community tank and am looking forward to getting mine up and running. I noticed you didn't use charcoal and I'm assuming the chemical filtration components you added will take care of that. Thank you for your time and efforts to help other aquarist.
Hello John, How did that filter work out for you? Purigen and activated charcoal provide similar functions. Once my tanks get established I stop using all chemical filtration.
Hey Ben we have the same filtration, fx6 and 704B, great video, u said 3 months, i clean mine every month, maybe i will try every other month
Efrain's Cichlids Hello Efrain! My filter was in pretty good shape so I'll probably go to 4 months.
Thanks for your support of the channel!
Ben, is the 704b good for a 20 gallon tank?
a floating blue balls.. im so late but the blue balls part is too hilarious
Gotta have a sense of humor
I can see this is not your first time rinsing your blue balls. Just a great technique you’ve mastered. And yes those blue balls look great. Dont you just love being gifted blue balls...
LOL!
Hey Ben this is off topic from the video but recently I've had an issue with one of my Ornate Rainbows. Now I have a 125 gallon planted discus community tank, and I know you're not exactly a specialist in the fish I keep but I figured asking because nobody has been able to give me an answer. The video was first intended for IFG hence the video title, but he couldn't figure out what caused this bacterial infection either or even what it is. So basically 3 days ago after feeding I noticed 1 of the 5 of my Ornate Rainbows was bloated and figured it was due to over eating. The next day same bloat is there, but now on one side of the fish's body there is a red rash type of marking. Today the fish passed. I feed 7 different types of frozen food along with a dry pellet/ flake, water conditions are as usual perfect, and I've had the school of 5 of them for about 3 months now. Here's the video: ua-cam.com/video/1vqWot7-sxc/v-deo.html
Ben as always thanks for reading this, appreciate the help.
I've heard that some frozen foods, like bloodworms, can introduce illness or provide too much protein, more than they can handle, but I'm only guessing here. How are they doing now?
the fish passed but they've been eating the same diet ive been feeding for months. unfortuantely i have to give lots of frozen cause of the discus. I also started with 5 of this fish now im down to 4, and of course they dont show any ilness
I have three 704s UV with E F 2 pre filters on my 150 gallon cichlid tank. I have nothing bad to say about sun sun /all pond solutions filter. Plus I’ve got two emperor 400s for polishing and water turn over for high oxygen transfer. I’ve already had to replace both impellers on both 400s. No problem with the cans three years running. All three can are full of lave Rock wish I could fill them with better media. Like bio home.
If the fish are healthy, don't bother with the lava rock swap. It's doing the job.
Yes tank is in great condition fish are awesome. Thanks for advice. God bless
Hi Ben. Great videos! Do you think a 704-B would be sufficient in tandem with a Penguin 350B for a heavily overstocked 40 or 55 Gallon mbuna tank?
Come back to this video every time I clean my 704b 😂
i have seachem matrix in mine pro tip make sure you put any rings extruded noodles or matrix in bags do yourselves a favor never run rock type free...
The black balls are actually what i would recommend as long as they dont float floating media is best saved for a wet dry or fluidized style...
I have a idea that you could potentially remove the trays and let it run as a fluidized filter.
I like that fluidized filter idea ... except that the trays provide the tube that push the incoming water to the bottom. You could cut the bottoms out of the trays, leaving the outside and tubing in tact. This would allow media to float around in there ... very interesting idea.
Regarding the mesh bags for media, I've done that and found that the bag would get clogged and block water flow from reaching the media. Maybe I was just going too long between cleanings. It was certainly easier to pull out and rinse one mesh ban rather than pulling out a bunch of loose media.
Thanks for watching and commenting. Very appreciated.
My filter media goes in the bottom tray, one blue and one white, the other baskets are filled with scrubbies. (Discus tank)
Hey, if that's working and your fish are healthy, don't change a thing!
Thanks for stopping by.
You can keep a lot of bio media in that sun sun wow! Lol
You should throw all the dirty water on any plants you keep. Helps them grow like crazy.
Yes, I've been doing that. Very nutrient rich. Plants love nitrates and fish waste.
Using Purigen actually kills the beneficial bacteria. Every time you recharge it will kill the entire bacteria colony in the filter.
The bio-balls can be put at the very bottom of the canister under the first tray. Being there they help catch the heavy muck thus keeping your filter pads/sponges cleaner longer. All your mechanical filtration can be done in the first tray and all the other trays can be filled with white pumice or the media of your choice.
24:25 my canister filter always has air inside it. I can burp it all day long and bubbled will always come out. I've checked all the hoses and made sure they are clamped properly. Checked all gaskets and made sure everything is seated properly. Nothing works. By the way i have the marineland c 360
Thanks for the video, where did you get your background?
Hello luvmywetpets, I've been a fan for several years of your channel and tank. My 3-D background is from Universal Rocks in Texas. It's called "Rocky - thin". I wanted something around or under 1/2" thick because my tank is only 18" deep so I didn't want to cut too much into their turn around space. If you go to Universal Rocks be sure to use the Jay Wilson code at check-out and you'll get a nice discount. Thanks for watching and commenting. A pleasure to have you stop by.
Great video, thanks Ben! So whenever I service my canisters and turn them back on hundreds of white particles fly out into the tank. I noticed the same happening to yours. Ideas on what those are? Also how to you service the tubing, when you do? Many thanks! Damon
Damon Ghanayem Hello Damon, that's gunk that has settled in the tubes. I have long flexible tube cleaners, with stiff bristles that I push through the length of the tubes. A few passes, then a clean water rinse and you're good to go. When you clean the tubes and reattach them you'll probably need to push down that priming button. Just hold it down for a few seconds let the tubes fill up with the pump running.
Thanks for watching.
I lost it when you said blue balls rofl
A sense of humor, I like it!!!
Thanks for taking the time to watch, much appreciated.
Hi Ben, subbed your channel . I'm new to cichlids so watching lots of videos. also watch Adam C,IFG,Jay Wilson. Some great info you guys given me. Thank you. Anyways great videos keep em coming..
Thank you Adam. I'm just playing it forward since I got so much help from youtubers when I first got going. Thanks for stopping by and commenting.
Ben please tell me where the switch is for the uv light? I dont want to leave it running all the time. Plus my power switch dont seem to be working. Wont shut off, i have to unplug it. Is there a trick to it?. Its a brand new 704 b that im trying to put together now.
I prefer the biohome media far more than plastic balls. Great looking tank. What is in your FX6? I run the FX4 and Aquatop CF4009 on my 75.
Biohome is great stuff. I have a couple kilos in my two SunSun 302s on the grow-out tank. In the Fluval I have the fluval ceramic rings, sponges, pinky floss, purigen and chemipure green. Pretty simple set up.
Great video! I'm always trying to impove my filtration. Do you have any tips for filter media on the fx6? If so, please inform me. Thanks
Well, the outside, of course, is composed of the fluval sponges. Then the water travels up through the unit and gets sucked down the middle. So, water is traveling down the middle, through the trays, on its way back to the tank.
So, in the top tray I put sponges (from top to bottom: coarse "egg crate", then medium, then pinky floss), all set up to really clean the water before it hits the biological media. My bio media, in the middle tray, is a couple bags of the Fluval ceramic rings that came with the FX-6. Then in the bottom tray (bottom tray, the last thing the water touches before returning to the tank) I have my chemical media, which currently is ChemiPure Green and a couple bags of Seachem Purigen.
I hope that helps
704b just a few weeks ago and it would work for 2 are 3 days then the inlet would stop sucking water but I can her the pump still working and I checked if anything was stuck in the pipes but they were OK and it keeps be full whit air has well
Very strange. Did you unscrew the impeller housing and make sure that the impeller isn't broken?
Ben - How do you get your action shots? Do you just hold the camera in one hand? or do you have some sort of mount?
When I speak into the camera the phone is on a tripod. Action shots are usually handheld. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the info
I'm running two HW 302 Sunsun filters on my 60-gallon tank. Would like to upgrade to the 704B but not sure if it will fit under my cabinet. I have about 20 1/2 ". Plenty of room for the 302. You think it will fit? The 302's are running great but need them else where. Thanks.
mine came with the skimmer but in my 90gallon with 1 adult oscar fish. It seems like I still need the longer intake tube...can I attach another intake and still use the skimmer?
My uv light not work so changed bulb still not work. The socket is not rusty but little loose. Is the socket repairable? Both bulbs test good.
for a 150 gal CA/SA cichlid tank (not too heavily stocked. thinking about a jd, raphael catfish, and 3-4 similiar sized fish. maybe some silver dollars) would you suggest 2 of these vs a sump?
Hey Ben .... What Model of Sun Sun Powerhead is that ?
I thank you for the video but I wish you had shown if the sunsun came with any media or not.
Think it depends on where u order it. I got mine from Amazon. Came w everything.
Do you need the filter light? I bought a used canister filter and the only thing missing was that light.
Great vid. I have sunsun 304 on 55 gallon. How often should I clean and is it ok to have 304 for 55 gallon tank
Lots of factors to consider. How much bio-load (how many fish) and what will you be putting in the canister for media? After cracking open this 704-B I'm thinking that I could have gone 4 months and been okay. As my fish get bigger and I add a few fish, that could go to every three or every two months. But also keep in mind that I have a Fluval FX-6 helping with the load.
One 304 on a 55 with, let's say 15 or less fish, might need a once a month servicing. I would suggest two filters, even if one of them is a HOB and you can alternate servicing.
Thanks for the vide Ben, appreciate it. I have a Aquatop (basically the same as your canister in the video) and it has the UV light as well. I was told to really not use the UV light in my setup. Should I use it, how often? Do you use yours at all? I am just trying to figure out the por's and con's of the UV so I can determine if I should be using it at all.
Thanks Ben, have a great day.
Gary G Hello Gary, yes, the Aquatop is made by the same company.
Currently I'm using the UV each weekend. I've noticed better water clarity when I use it.
Which side is the intake?! The one next to the sunsun or the one n the other side of the tank ?!
Hi Ben
Only a question...
Do you remember how many quantitie of Biohome Ultimate can you put in one of the Baskets of your SunSun HW-704B???
(kilos, ounces or pounds ... It does not matter in which of them you give me the data, I will convert it into kilos with a calculator)
Thanks for avance
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Hi ben. Can you turn off the uv while running just the filter??? I heard so many stories about the plastic melting.
Yes you can
What are the differences between this 704-b and a 304-b?
What’s the color of sand in your tank? What’s it called and also what brand is it? Tia.
Oh man. My filter came “pre-set up” but now I’m worried bc it has the soft white filter under the course black one. It took me forever to get all the air out of my new filter so the thought of taking it apart makes me want to cry. Am I going to mess everything up by not having them in the right order til my 1st cleaning?
It’s how it came so I didn’t think twice about it.
This canister looks very similar to the marineland c360
Do you still have and recommend 704b ?
Great video Ben. Is there a reason why you don't use carbon in your filter?
Hello, I replaced carbon with Purigen, then noticed when I pulled the purigen that the tank still looked great, so I now use neither. I will use carbon after medicating to remove residual meds, then I throw it out after a few weeks.
Where would be the best place to put a couple of bags of purigen in? The very top?
Yes. IMO because purigen is technically "chemical" filtration you want the water to hit it last on it's way back to the tank (and not have it running over the biological filtration and possibly inhibiting the growth of BB). That just MHO. When I contacted Seachem they told me it didn't matter, go figure.
Hey there, im newbie at this hubby. I noticed that you rinsed you chemicals filtration and then filled up your tank with regular tap water. Aren’t we supposed to used water that stood out for at least few hours before adding to aquarium?
Good question. I don't do that, especially with what they use in city water (chloramine ) it really doesn't matter how long it sits, it doesn't gas off. So, I treat with Seachem Safe or Prime and add it right in. Never have a problem.
My uv socket need replacing on my 704b, can it be replaced?
I am just getting started with a 55 gallon tank, I want to stick with smaller cichlids because I don't have the space for a larger tank. I would like to know if I am selecting the correct filter for my tank if I get SunSun HW-302 3-Stage External Canister Filter, 264 GPH? thank you.
I run two 302's on my 60 gal grow-out tank and have had up to 18 - 20 fish in there from time to time (you can see the different combinations in my older video). I like have a back-up some one is running during cleaning and I like getting up between 5 - 10 times total tank volume, for example, a 55 gal should have 275 - 550 gph. Now, figure in that canisters are rated without media. So the adjusted gph for the 302 is probably more like 200 gph, so, two would get you right in range. You can also use a combination of canister and HOB, something inexpensive like a whisper or you can go high end with an aquaclear or fluval HOB.
10 - 15 peacocks and maybe a few smaller haps, like Z Rock's, can live quite well in those circumstances. Good luck and certainly feel free to ask for advice or visit the FB group ("Ben O'Cichlid") where you can get a lot of advice from some nice fish keepers.
Do you have a US link for 603?
Hi Ben,
I'm interested to purchase SunSun 704B, It's been more than 3 years . Is filter still running good now ?
Thank you
hope your enjoying with a cold beer after all that cleaning. how long does it take to clean the filter?
Under an hour (3 hours if you're trying to make a video 😀)
Great videos, Ben! Just found my old sunsun in the back of storage. After some deep cleaning, it works like my eheim and fluval. Only thing is, it's incredibly LOUD! Any problems with sunsuns ever in this regard?
You probably just need to replace the impeller.
@@eruk0331 very possible. Although when I take the motor and impeller out, I click everything back into place correctly. Nothing is broken and there is hardly any crazy sludge buildup. Strange. I also found out my siphon/priming button doesn't work, so I place the filter in an empty 5 gallon bucket, have to fill my canister with water to the very top, have both intake and outtake tubes in the tank water, place the lid of the filter attached with the hose OPENED UP and onto the canister, so that water overflows into the bucket and water shoots into and up the tubes, creating a siphon
@@FootyHerper10 I had a old fx4 that got noisy after some time but still work great as soon as I replaced the impeller the noise went away. As for the primer im not sure whats wrong with that. I've never had a issue with my sunsun in the year I've had it. Did you take your primer apart to see if something might have came disconnected?
Ben...I just picked up a used 704B but it doesn’t have the lid which fits on the top basket. Do you think the filter will still work OK? Thanks for your reply.
John Bravo
My concern John would be that a piece of media might block the exit hole that pumps back to the tank. Check on eBay, someone has to have replacements!
Awesome vid, currently got an all pond solutions canister 2000ef version, very good filter how ever makes a slight humming noise, I’ve watched his other vids or how to solve this but the issue still persists? Any help?
My checklist for a humming SunSun is:
Are baskets over-filled so that they done sit snug on each other?
Is the impellor seated correctly and the cap screwed all the way down over it?
Is the filter perfectly flat, not resting on it's cord or some other object?
Is all air out of the system (did I rock the can back and forth a few time and slap the side of the canister until no more bubbles excaped the output)?
If you've checkd all these and it's still humming, it might that it's touching the side of something like the cabinet. Even a hose can cause a vibration sound laying against the wood cabinet. I hope this helps.
Hi Ben, thanks for such a detailed response, will be going through the points 1 by 1 to hopefully eliminate the issue.
Hi, where you buy cause I really want one of these but they are hard to find online to ship to Canada? Thanks
Silent Killa I’ve purchased mine on eBay. They are marketed under the name SunSun and also Aquatop.
Nice tank, very clean and your fish look healthy. I just recently purchased a Sunsun 304b. I am running it with the previous HOB filter. How long should I wait to be sure the canister has cycled, before removing the HOB? I've heard some people say a month or two. I have a 55 gal. tank by the way. I notice you're not running air bubbles in this tank, does the canister and water flow provide oxygen? Thanks.
Hello Flyin777, after two or three weeks why not take some media out of the HOB and put it into the canister? It would be the best way to go. Don't clean the media no matter how nasty it looks, just drop it into the canister. You'll have a cloudy tank for around an hour, then things will clear up and you'll be good to go. Keep doing your water testing and routine water changes. Just my advice, certainly ask around.
That makes perfect sense. I have plenty of room in one of the trays to do that. I bought my 55 at Walmart, I got a killer deal because it was an open box item. The HOB that came with it does the job, but the filter cartridges don't last long before they get loaded up, and I don't don't even overfeed my fish. I think it's a consumer scam really. But I will do that, I will pull the filters and lay them in one of the trays. By the way, in the two days I've been running the Sunsun, my tank is crystal clear. Thanks for the advice!
I believe he has a wavemaker instead. Top left of tank. That pushes the surface of the water around also mimicking natural habitat. Correct me if Im wrong Ben.
What filter holds the most bio Media. aquamanta EFX
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Hello. Where can I find those egg crate foam and man I started with 10 gallon tank then one day I saw jay,s tank then yours so I bought set off 55 gallon tanks and now I just bought 125 gallon .can you please tell me what type of haps I can keep in 125 and how many of them. I have 2 sunsun 304b and 2 marine land 400e.thanks
cichlid guru You got the Cichlid fever, LOL!
I'd go with around 15 fish. But that's just my opinion. Others will say more, some less and some will say you need a 180 or 220 gal.
The egg create some filters are available on eBay. I buy large pieces of "pond sponge filters" and cut them to fit.
Thanks for watching and good luck with that 125.
Ben Ochart thanks for reply and you are right abut fever lol
Hello, this might be dump question but do you keep the uv sterilizer on all the time?
Not a dumb question and no, I only run it on weekends.
My brand new 704b doesnt put out much out of the outake and i dont know why... like the pressure when i put my hand in front of it i can barely feel it
Is there any way to get the flow rate stronger?
I just picked up a 55 gal Marineland tank, with the penguin 350 bio wheel filter. I’d like to get a SunSun canister. What would you recommend? Thanks in advance. I love your videos.
A 400 series should be fine working along with that 350 bio wheel. If you're getting into African cichlids, then I recommend that you get the 704-B which is a beast and you'll be able to keep it when you upgrade to a 125 gal.
Something in the 400 series would work well. However, if you're getting into African cichlids I suggest a 704-B for two reasons: 1) ACs produce a lot of waste, and 2) the 704-B will work well in the 125 gal that you will eventually move into. (and thank you for loving the videos and supporting the cannel!)
Ben Ochart thanks sooo much for your time. My wife and I really enjoy your videos.
hi ben this is jonathan I love your videos I was going to ask you how do you get read of swim bladder disease
jonathan worthy hot tank water and use prazi pro