I have been trying to propagate Blueberries by this method. However, I had no idea how long it would take. Only started last Spring and had been wondering why there were no roots yet. So it takes 2 years - that's why! Glad I did right in not giving up and left the soil piled up around the plants. Accidentally, I discovered that my prized young blackcurrants propagate really easily if deeply mulched with moss. (I use moss as a mulch because I love a 'living green mulch' rather than dead-looking woodchip. Moss still does a pretty good job smothering weeds, keeps in the moisture a treat, and breaks down to make an absolutely top class, rich black compost). I only mulched these blackcurrants about 8 months ago, and it was only when I was adding a little more moss around one bush before Christmas that I spotted all these lovely strong white roots growing out of the main stem and into the moss. Checking other blackcurrants, I could see they'd all done the same, all the stems sprouting roots. By the Autumn I should have dozens of new plants to detach and plant in the new border I'm now digging for them.
Mulching with moss sounds super dream! No wonder they happily rooted. I suspect the blueberries will root nicely with this method, just taking a bit longer for sure.
Thanks for the info on the blackcurrents. I was wondering how to propagate them. I have one plant each of red, white and black currents. And the black are almost ripe. (mid-Missouri)
Your videos are always so inspiring and get me more excited for garden work. The hardest part is remembering that we're two to three weeks behind you and the shovels are still bouncing off the ground.
I remember that original video! It’s so cool to see the results years later, and I hope you’ll continue to provide updates as you propagate them further.
I don't mind seeing a technique every year or two, either. Each plant will grow or "behave" a little differently from the previous one and the minor differences help me to retain information.
Thanks Stefan! Yes, Honeyberry is a treat with stool layering. They will root readily in year one if you use very very high quality compost/mulch and repeat once or twice, but 2-3 years is fine with me in exchange for a very informal style as shown in this video. Highly recommended!
@@edibleacres Two of my three absolute favourite UA-camrs talking to each other! Along with David Trood (The Weedy Garden) you always inspire me in my garden and life in general and I so appreciate it. Thank you!!
It's so nice to watch others dig into the soil. I can't wait for snow to melt for me! It'll probably take a long time still, with 3 feet left. But I'll enjoy your joy as I wait!
Yes! Great and simple design elements at play. I love elderberry and currants (and now honeyberry) near water ways I refresh with a shovel frequently so the muck can go somewhere productive!
Using composted manure to stool layer would be quite the double entendre. 😂😂😂 All jokes aside, thanks for showing off this trick! I’ll be doing it with the HBs I planted last year! 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you for this video and all your amazing education and willingness to share. My wife and I moved to Missouri about 3 months ago and got a beautiful 2.5 acres . It has peach trees, black walnuts are just some things the land has already! You and Sasha have been huge in use dreaming and stepping into our new homestead we have beds ready,chicken coop being built, and fencing for our chicken area , and chics coming soon! Wanted to share and let you know your videos have helped us so much on this path. Wanted to send some love to you all words cannot express our heart felt gratitude for finding you❤️❤️❤️❤️
For your home in Missouri- I have great sucess with Juliet Bush cherries. Our 4 year old bush is 8+ feet tall and 8 feet in diameter. Last week we picked 4 gallons of the best cherries that I have ever grown; and they taste better (sweeter and larger) than our North Star pie cherries on trees. The bush puts out a lot of shoots, so I have 12 more started for myself and friends. We also like the taste of the Juliet better than our Carmine Jewel bush cherry.
This was amazing to watch! I always make sure I leave a depression in the soil around the bushes so the water will not run off and I've always heard that a lot of organic material close to the stem can make it rot... but my plants always look a bit lonely and have a single stem, like a trunk. And now I learn that if I do pile organic material around it I'll have not only a healthy plant but many more of the same! I am very thankful to you for sharing this and now I am off to do the same on my black currants and honeyberrys and instead of bying more I'll just wait a year or two :). Thank you!
Wonderful. I've ordered 4 of these, plus a few types of currants and gooseberries, because they're easy to propagate. I'm planning to spread them all around the property.
Never knew the name for this! I accidentally did it to a big gardenia by flipping some muck on top of the open center when digging out a dry creek bed. After 2 years all the major stems had a ton of roots!
This i great information! I literally did this with my raspberry’s last year by accident. I planted a bunch of bare root raspberries, and piled on mulch. But it was more like dumping wheelbarrows full. Because I was trying to make an extra large area mulched around them. To at some point end up planting more things. Then the darn wild rabbits got to them before I could fence them off. They nibbled them all the way down to the mulch. (Which I had also never gotten around to pulling away from the plants.) I finally got them fenced off, and now I have a ton of shoots coming up! Which I’m perfectly ok with, because I thought I had lost all the plants I paid for. So now I’m glad I didn’t have time to move the mulch away. And I’m really glad the plants had time to get established before the wildlife found them! 🙂
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. We used to have two chickens. They wandered free in the garden and stool layered lilac for us. It's a dwarf variety. Two years later we accidently have 20 extra plants. The mother plant is 2,5 meters high so I had to dig around it and cut the shoots below the roots.
I am so amazed at the difference in climate even though we are not that far away. Up here, across from Ogdensburg, we still have loads of snow on the ground. Even after the beauty of a day we had. There's a lot of info out there about layer propagation, the different types and what works for what plants everyone. Don't be afraid to grab a snack and dive into research mode. It's an exciting subject.
Miraculous is the right word. Every time you post a video about stool layering, it reminds me to go out and do it. So thanks! I’ve had luck with currants. I’ve also heard that this can be an effective technique for propagating lavender, but I haven’t tried it yet.
I imagine this can work nicely with Lavender. You may get best results with a very freely draining material like sand of a lean seed staring mix that has ample perlite/vermiculite. They can rot if too moist... Good luck!
This is an amazing technique we can’t wait check on our blueberry stools this is so much easier than other propagation we have tried 🤙🏻 your channel was the first time we seen it and it makes so much sense
I did a batch of gooseberries by both stooling and then layering the plant and got about 20 new plants from it. Actually, I was just going to layer it, but I added too much compost to the base of the original plant which also then rooted. Dug it up last year, potted them, found new homes for most and still have a few I don't know what to to with this year.
I've been watching your videos for a number of years and enjoy them immensely. After watching this video, a couple times I'm planning to try this technique on my single Aronia (black chokeberry). It's about five years old. Please let me know if this is a bad idea.
I'm about to plant our first elderberries this week; we bought some cuttings and some bare-root plants. I'm guessing stool-layering would be great for them too, yes? The soil is pretty shallow so I was planning on building up small beds for them with compost and mulch anyway. I have several of each form so I can try a couple different techniques. Fun stuff!
Yes Stool layering will work for Elderberries. You can also just stick cuttings in the ground. Sean showed us that in another video. Whatever is easier for you.
I just took a handful of copies of a thornless blackberry that I'm going to use other places. I need to get some compost on my honey berry though. Thanks for the reminder!
No Amazon link... I got those from a locally owned hardware store where we live. They are gloves for snow blowing. Insulated and waterproof, they are nice early in the season when the ground is still super cold
When I lived in Florida I did the same as you do in this video but with azaleas and blueberry bushesThe difference was I didnt disturb the mother plants but just took away the rooted layers.My question is- can you do that with the new honeyberry layers(i.e. not disturb the mother bush while you harvest the new rooted layers)? Thanks for your very practical videos!
@EdibleAcres If you stool layer a honeyberry and later (after it roots) decide not to dig it up and divide it, do you have to leave it hilled up all the time now, and how does it change the plant's productivity if at all?
I divided all the small plants I planted this spring a few days ago. Sounds like a stupid idea but Sweden has been record-wet and I noticed roots below new shoots. And they are doing fine! Also: they were just 10usd a piece (really small plants). I realize it's still 70% stupid lol. But experimenting and patience dont go hand-in-hand :D anyway, I wanted to thank you for this vid because without it I never would have even tried (and maybe not ever purchased honey berry either)...!
Man, I wish this worked with blueberries! Also, you’ve convinced me to look further into the Japanese varieties to see what they’d do in our climate 👍🏻.
Japanese can do it for you, just need cool and shady from around noon onward! :) This approach should work with blueberries, just takes a little longer.
@@edibleacres definitely did NOT know that about Blueberries. Who do you recommend for Japanese haskaps? Planting Justice doesn’t have ‘em, but I did take your advice and grab some Autumberry cultivars from them!
I'd love to know what is bubbling away in the ground by your foot at the beginning!!! Is your love for mother nature rewarding you with thermal geysers now!!!
If you search 'King of Spades' online and find any place other than Amazon to purchase it, you'll be happy! They are expensive but amazing. The shorter, D handled type is what I mainly use. Perhaps there is a used or open box option on Ebay.. The gloves are from a local hardware store. Insulated snow blower gloves. They seem decent for the work
Great video! Grown to cook has a great honeyberry planting video on youtube. I mention that because she plants using basically the same principle as stool layering - she plants them 6 inches deep to stimulate new shoots! Actually that's different but... any thoughts?
My honeyberrie plant here in Ireland already has small flowers I'm hoping it hasn't flowered to early and the coming frosty nights don't kill all the flower buds
Alas, too late for me. My honeyberries are already leafing out. Just glad they survived out 179-day drought. They weren't well established yet, and not much else did. Have any insights on stool layering goumi? Expecting I'd see roots by now if I was going to at all.
In a very dry climate stool layering would be very very slow! Goumi works with stool layering but is slow. The honeyberry... You can still stool them now in anticipation of a fall or next spring division.
This was so timely!! Thank you for this video! Are there any materials that shouldn’t be mounded around the plants? Should wood chips be aged ? I have super sandy soil and is that ok to mound up or layer it with organic matter? I’m pretty new to all of this so apologies if my question sounds silly.
Anything organic should work. The main point is that it holds some moisture and allows roots to form. That's only for the sake of stooling, but obviously your plant will likely prefer a nutrient rich compost to raw wood chips that initially suck nitrogen. Use what you have, it's not rocket science!
It's a really good and reasonable question for sure, thanks for putting it forward... I think absolutely raw wood chips may not be best. Super super coarse wood chips not ideal VERY pine dominant wood chips and/or Black Walnut, Cedar, etc.. in otherwords, intense woodchips not best Raw manure or hot hot compost not great Basically if you wouldn't use it as a mulch in your garden you wouldn't want it banked right up against the stems of the plants. All those mulches listed can be put in pathways NEAR the plants and then after a year used as a lovely material. Thanks for asking your question!
When I order cuttings in the fall (plants I can't currently get locally) they tend to come in after it's habitable to over winter outside. Would a air prune bed work if placed in my root cellar?
I don't think I would set up an air prune box in a root cellar... They are meant for helping develop roots during the active growing season. A bottom heat propagator for hardwood cuttings sometime in later Feb., early March, etc, in a basement could be valuable to start rooting, but you'd want to then move the plants outside for the season!
Fantastic!! What are your favorite cultivars? I want to get some honey berry, but I’m not sure which ones to get. I don’t have a lot of space, so I have to be picky.
I have not had any success with seaberry and this method... Hardwood cuttings, taken later winter WAY before the plants leaf out, and put on bottom heat in a light media seems to work pretty nicely. Softwood taken around August 1st for our area can also yield decent rooting.
I bought two honey berries several years ago. One died, the other has flowers but has never set fruit. Is it one that needs a male and female plant, or just two plants, ir is it jyst defective?
They need two separate types to flower and make fruit. Figure out what type you still have and look up a compatible variety that can pollinate them and you should be good to go!
For Honeyberry they work with pollinators like bees so as long as the plants are within easy line of sight they should be OK. For best of best pollination probably 15-20 feet would be longer distance...
How do you protect the bushes from deer..? I went to my allitment and noticed 2/3 quite large bushes had 0 buds left :( same with many current plants and backberries. i know how to protect them but not in a simple way. Chicken netting would def. work but is horrible to work with... Leaving some food for wildlife isnt a problem but this equation - missing out on a year's harvest for a few hundred calories makes no sense
A fence around the area may be in order... OR we put bamboo staves around plants here or there as needed sometimes to help with deflection. Not a full solution but can be helpful
Elder is MUCH easier to propagate through hardwood cuttings. You can search out videos for info on that, and we plan to make more videos on that too :)
The only issue will be how suitable the rootstock is. Most fruit tree varieties are not grown on their own roots, but specific rootstock varieties for better drought/cold tolerance and to influence the final tree size (dwarf, semi dwarf, etc...)
Stool layering is a VERY common method of getting root stocks for grafting fruit trees. You can search online for ample info on that. There is more nuance to it, it is an annual coppicing routine along with stooling that produces standard commercial rootstocks in many contexts... Good question!
Any time of year... Just know that when layering in the dormant season the response is slower... You'll want to wait until Fall of this growing season to explore how well it worked (or add more during the season to really support the proceess!)
Your knowledge should be spread even further. Why don't you partner up with another chanel or two and do some gardening with them or help them out? That way you advertise yourself more and maybe get more subscribers. Your knowledge is gold and I'd love to see you hit half a million subscribers. You are just as good of not better than Charles Dowding. Go for it.
I have a whole lot of respect for Charles Dowding, really enjoy his channel. The beauty of it is that we have different ways we approach things and different focus so we both get to share different content to different audiences!
Watched the whole thing even though I've seen your other videos on the topic, and other people's too because free plants will never not interest me. I have gone pretty crazy with propagation this winter, of blackberry, raspberry, currants etc. (mostly doing hardwood cuttings though, pretty much just sticking them in the ground). How long are you looking at before a cloned honeyberry of this kind of size fruits? I guess the size of it will affect this. Do you prune back some of those bigger ones? I feel like maybe they would struggle a little due to the root damage otherwise? I just planted some year-old haskap transplants, I'll be stool-layering them just as soon as it makes sense to, great video!
Great questions! 1) Most of the shoots you see in this video will fruit THIS YEAR! A few of the smaller ones will be next year. I believe they fruit on 2nd year - perhaps 5th year wood... 2) We will not prune back the bigger ones, instead we'll either pot them up in rich, moist healthy soil or plant them in prime growing conditions with ample water and mulch. They'll establish absolutely fine with the ratios they have They are hardy! They like rich and moist soil, and not absolutely blazing hot sun, but otherwise are EASY!
@@edibleacres Thanks for the pointers, that's awesome, so you can expect to drastically increase your harvests very quickly with this approach. I hope I see some fruit even this year on my young plants. My climate is rather harsh (very hot dry summers) and I have planted them in a spot where I expect them to get partially shaded by some seaberries and things in the next couple of years so we shall see. Keep up the good work, maybe one of these days I will be in a position to make some videos about doing this sort of thing in a temperate but hot climate.
@gianfrancopaladino961 Yes, literally just stuck them in the ground and they leafed out and rooted in spring. Your mileage may vary, and it's not a 100% success by any means, but it's got to be the easiest way.
@gianfrancopaladino961 Oh, I have to qualify that, blackberries don't seem to work very well by that method, those I just dig up with some roots and propagate them that way.
You are right, I think these were planted in the fall of that year... I believe what you see in the video is 2 full growing seasons worth of growth/rooting, but perhaps I'm not remembering fully or correctly... Imagine this as being 2 or 3 years of growth :)
Personally I wouldn't try this with raspberries... They sucker and spread by roots below ground and that is by far the easiest way to propagate. Maybe we'll make a video about it!
Know if any good places to purchase a nursery spade that will hold up for a good while? I don’t care for much of the flimsy junk that they pass off as a “tool” these days.
@EdibleAcres I want to grow haskap berries. Actually I am from India and here such variety is not available. Can you please sell me a plant? Meanwhile if you are interested in any Indian varieties, kindly let me know. I can help you by purchasing and shipping to your location.
They aren't, but there may be value in exploring the idea of 'invasive' when it comes to hardy perennial sources of food and medicine. As fossil fuel explodes in price, supply chains falter and break and the food that is available gets more and more expensive and toxic, there may be immense value in finding 'invasive' allies in the food producing realm to bring into your landscape!
Wow! A 16 fold increase in 2 years is a 4 fold increase per year: a 300% (annualized) return on investment, not counting the fruit dividend.
I have been trying to propagate Blueberries by this method. However, I had no idea how long it would take. Only started last Spring and had been wondering why there were no roots yet. So it takes 2 years - that's why! Glad I did right in not giving up and left the soil piled up around the plants.
Accidentally, I discovered that my prized young blackcurrants propagate really easily if deeply mulched with moss.
(I use moss as a mulch because I love a 'living green mulch' rather than dead-looking woodchip. Moss still does a pretty good job smothering weeds, keeps in the moisture a treat, and breaks down to make an absolutely top class, rich black compost).
I only mulched these blackcurrants about 8 months ago, and it was only when I was adding a little more moss around one bush before Christmas that I spotted all these lovely strong white roots growing out of the main stem and into the moss. Checking other blackcurrants, I could see they'd all done the same, all the stems sprouting roots. By the Autumn I should have dozens of new plants to detach and plant in the new border I'm now digging for them.
Mulching with moss sounds super dream! No wonder they happily rooted.
I suspect the blueberries will root nicely with this method, just taking a bit longer for sure.
Thanks for the info on the blackcurrents. I was wondering how to propagate them. I have one plant each of red, white and black currents. And the black are almost ripe. (mid-Missouri)
Do you find moss and plant it or buy spores? That is an amazing idea, thank you!
How did you mulch with moss?
Your videos are always so inspiring and get me more excited for garden work. The hardest part is remembering that we're two to three weeks behind you and the shovels are still bouncing off the ground.
That’s perfect.
More time to plan and organize!
Same!
@@kristimckeon6967 Cold Climate Club represent!
I remember that original video! It’s so cool to see the results years later, and I hope you’ll continue to provide updates as you propagate them further.
Happy to do so. Seems good to go back over a concept shared in the past to show how it evolves!
I don't mind seeing a technique every year or two, either. Each plant will grow or "behave" a little differently from the previous one and the minor differences help me to retain information.
Nice. I never thought of using this technique on honey berry. You’ve built some beautiful soil, bravo.
Thanks Stefan!
Yes, Honeyberry is a treat with stool layering. They will root readily in year one if you use very very high quality compost/mulch and repeat once or twice, but 2-3 years is fine with me in exchange for a very informal style as shown in this video. Highly recommended!
@@edibleacres Two of my three absolute favourite UA-camrs talking to each other! Along with David Trood (The Weedy Garden) you always inspire me in my garden and life in general and I so appreciate it. Thank you!!
It's so nice to watch others dig into the soil. I can't wait for snow to melt for me! It'll probably take a long time still, with 3 feet left. But I'll enjoy your joy as I wait!
That is cold times!
My two honeyberry are conveniently located within a few yards of my sawmill. Plenty of sawdust available for layering up around the stems ;)
Yes! Great and simple design elements at play. I love elderberry and currants (and now honeyberry) near water ways I refresh with a shovel frequently so the muck can go somewhere productive!
I’ve never seen this technique… thank you soooooo much!
Super happy to share. Very very effective way at copying plants in a slow and steady way without a ton of effort...
"A bonus Dandelion" XD love it - keep up the lovely work
Using composted manure to stool layer would be quite the double entendre. 😂😂😂
All jokes aside, thanks for showing off this trick! I’ll be doing it with the HBs I planted last year! 🙏🙏🙏
There ya go!
Thank you for this video and all your amazing education and willingness to share. My wife and I moved to Missouri about 3 months ago and got a beautiful 2.5 acres . It has peach trees, black walnuts are just some things the land has already! You and Sasha have been huge in use dreaming and stepping into our new homestead we have beds ready,chicken coop being built, and fencing for our chicken area , and chics coming soon! Wanted to share and let you know your videos have helped us so much on this path. Wanted to send some love to you all words cannot express our heart felt gratitude for finding you❤️❤️❤️❤️
So excited for you and your new adventure. Hoping for wonderful growth and learning there Russell. Thanks for the kind words :)
For your home in Missouri- I have great sucess with Juliet Bush cherries. Our 4 year old bush is 8+ feet tall and 8 feet in diameter. Last week we picked 4 gallons of the best cherries that I have ever grown; and they taste better (sweeter and larger) than our North Star pie cherries on trees. The bush puts out a lot of shoots, so I have 12 more started for myself and friends. We also like the taste of the Juliet better than our Carmine Jewel bush cherry.
@@charlesdevier8203 where can you buy them?
This was amazing to watch! I always make sure I leave a depression in the soil around the bushes so the water will not run off and I've always heard that a lot of organic material close to the stem can make it rot... but my plants always look a bit lonely and have a single stem, like a trunk. And now I learn that if I do pile organic material around it I'll have not only a healthy plant but many more of the same! I am very thankful to you for sharing this and now I am off to do the same on my black currants and honeyberrys and instead of bying more I'll just wait a year or two :). Thank you!
We've also had great success stool layering Honeyberries! Some of my favorite berries in our cold climate (Canadian zone 3, USDA zone 2).
They are amazing for cold climate areas
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The information is greatly appreciated.
Our pleasure!
Love you! You are so compassionate in your approach. Thank you for sharing!
I appreciate that sentiment as I rip apart plants and dip them in icy muddy water, ha!
Wonderful. I've ordered 4 of these, plus a few types of currants and gooseberries, because they're easy to propagate. I'm planning to spread them all around the property.
Great!
Thanks!
Hey wow, much appreciated!
Never knew the name for this! I accidentally did it to a big gardenia by flipping some muck on top of the open center when digging out a dry creek bed. After 2 years all the major stems had a ton of roots!
This i great information! I literally did this with my raspberry’s last year by accident.
I planted a bunch of bare root raspberries, and piled on mulch. But it was more like dumping wheelbarrows full. Because I was trying to make an extra large area mulched around them. To at some point end up planting more things.
Then the darn wild rabbits got to them before I could fence them off. They nibbled them all the way down to the mulch. (Which I had also never gotten around to pulling away from the plants.)
I finally got them fenced off, and now I have a ton of shoots coming up! Which I’m perfectly ok with, because I thought I had lost all the plants I paid for. So now I’m glad I didn’t have time to move the mulch away. And I’m really glad the plants had time to get established before the wildlife found them! 🙂
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. We used to have two chickens. They wandered free in the garden and stool layered lilac for us. It's a dwarf variety. Two years later we accidently have 20 extra plants. The mother plant is 2,5 meters high so I had to dig around it and cut the shoots below the roots.
I am so amazed at the difference in climate even though we are not that far away. Up here, across from Ogdensburg, we still have loads of snow on the ground. Even after the beauty of a day we had.
There's a lot of info out there about layer propagation, the different types and what works for what plants everyone. Don't be afraid to grab a snack and dive into research mode. It's an exciting subject.
:)
We've got snow on the ground again today! SO much fluctuation!
Miraculous is the right word. Every time you post a video about stool layering, it reminds me to go out and do it. So thanks! I’ve had luck with currants. I’ve also heard that this can be an effective technique for propagating lavender, but I haven’t tried it yet.
I imagine this can work nicely with Lavender. You may get best results with a very freely draining material like sand of a lean seed staring mix that has ample perlite/vermiculite. They can rot if too moist... Good luck!
@@edibleacres thanks for the tip!
I did this with some currants last year. I moved them in the fall so I’ll learn whether it worked in a few weeks.
Currants work incredibly well with this, I bet you'll have amazing results!
I really love you guys, you’re so easy to listen to!
Thanks!
Incredible! I bought a male and a female honeyberry. Definitely trying this late next winter.
Super worth while
The plants are both female and male
Another valuable, informative video. Thanks.
This is great. I purchased 2 of them a couple years ago and I had not thought about stool layering them. I know what I am doing this weekend.
The best news is you can do the stool layering but not dig them up and they're just happier for your efforts!
Wow,what a brilliant idea of propagation, thanks 🤗
This is an amazing technique we can’t wait check on our blueberry stools this is so much easier than other propagation we have tried 🤙🏻 your channel was the first time we seen it and it makes so much sense
I hope that works beautifully for you!
Awesome video! Thanks so much. This will really come in handy.
I've learned so much from you! Thanks so much for all you post!
Our pleasure!
Thank you, this is really inspiring. How to cut,to cut spending money.
I did a batch of gooseberries by both stooling and then layering the plant and got about 20 new plants from it. Actually, I was just going to layer it, but I added too much compost to the base of the original plant which also then rooted. Dug it up last year, potted them, found new homes for most and still have a few I don't know what to to with this year.
That is a great situation to find yourself in!
Stop complaining lol :D
I've been watching your videos for a number of years and enjoy them immensely. After watching this video, a couple times I'm planning to try this technique on my single Aronia (black chokeberry). It's about five years old. Please let me know if this is a bad idea.
I'm about to plant our first elderberries this week; we bought some cuttings and some bare-root plants. I'm guessing stool-layering would be great for them too, yes? The soil is pretty shallow so I was planning on building up small beds for them with compost and mulch anyway.
I have several of each form so I can try a couple different techniques. Fun stuff!
Yes, he did mention elderberries! They should work great with stooling. He also mentioned laying them flat towards the north, you could try that too?
Yes Stool layering will work for Elderberries. You can also just stick cuttings in the ground. Sean showed us that in another video. Whatever is easier for you.
@@jenn6838 Awesome, I have both so I'll try both. Thanks everyone.
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Hi, thanks for joining us!
I just took a handful of copies of a thornless blackberry that I'm going to use other places. I need to get some compost on my honey berry though. Thanks for the reminder!
No problem!
Thank you so much for your thoughtful and wonderful videos! Is there any chance you'll offering honeyberries through the nursery in the near future?
We'd like to. We will offer for local pickup this spring and probably fall and hope to offer them for shipping for next spring.
I have never eaten a Honeyberry. I hope I get the chance someday.
Tart and funky in a special way. I love them!
excellent video, thanks
glad you think so!
You've got some really nice garden gloves. I cant find a link to your Amazon store for them. Got a link ?
No Amazon link...
I got those from a locally owned hardware store where we live.
They are gloves for snow blowing. Insulated and waterproof, they are nice early in the season when the ground is still super cold
When I lived in Florida I did the same as you do in this video but with azaleas and blueberry bushesThe difference was I didnt disturb the mother plants but just took away the rooted layers.My question is- can you do that with the new honeyberry layers(i.e. not disturb the mother bush while you harvest the new rooted layers)? Thanks for your very practical videos!
With a generous enough amount of mulch around the honeyberry I suspect your idea would work wonderfully...
@EdibleAcres If you stool layer a honeyberry and later (after it roots) decide not to dig it up and divide it, do you have to leave it hilled up all the time now, and how does it change the plant's productivity if at all?
I divided all the small plants I planted this spring a few days ago. Sounds like a stupid idea but Sweden has been record-wet and I noticed roots below new shoots. And they are doing fine! Also: they were just 10usd a piece (really small plants). I realize it's still 70% stupid lol. But experimenting and patience dont go hand-in-hand :D anyway, I wanted to thank you for this vid because without it I never would have even tried (and maybe not ever purchased honey berry either)...!
So glad! Hope the experiments keep evolving!
Man, I wish this worked with blueberries! Also, you’ve convinced me to look further into the Japanese varieties to see what they’d do in our climate 👍🏻.
Japanese can do it for you, just need cool and shady from around noon onward! :)
This approach should work with blueberries, just takes a little longer.
@@edibleacres definitely did NOT know that about Blueberries. Who do you recommend for Japanese haskaps? Planting Justice doesn’t have ‘em, but I did take your advice and grab some Autumberry cultivars from them!
Hey Sean, you going to follow up and put these up for sale and just saw these being offered by other online retailers with rather buy them from you
I'd love to know what is bubbling away in the ground by your foot at the beginning!!! Is your love for mother nature rewarding you with thermal geysers now!!!
Would you mind dropping a link to your nursery shovel and gloves?
If you search 'King of Spades' online and find any place other than Amazon to purchase it, you'll be happy! They are expensive but amazing. The shorter, D handled type is what I mainly use. Perhaps there is a used or open box option on Ebay..
The gloves are from a local hardware store. Insulated snow blower gloves. They seem decent for the work
Great video! Grown to cook has a great honeyberry planting video on youtube. I mention that because she plants using basically the same principle as stool layering - she plants them 6 inches deep to stimulate new shoots! Actually that's different but... any thoughts?
Seems reasonable to me!
My honeyberrie plant here in Ireland already has small flowers I'm hoping it hasn't flowered to early and the coming frosty nights don't kill all the flower buds
They should be super super hardy in the flower, I wouldn't be too concerned about it.
You guys rock
Awesome, God Speed 🙌
Alas, too late for me. My honeyberries are already leafing out. Just glad they survived out 179-day drought. They weren't well established yet, and not much else did.
Have any insights on stool layering goumi? Expecting I'd see roots by now if I was going to at all.
In a very dry climate stool layering would be very very slow! Goumi works with stool layering but is slow.
The honeyberry... You can still stool them now in anticipation of a fall or next spring division.
This was so timely!! Thank you for this video! Are there any materials that shouldn’t be mounded around the plants? Should wood chips be aged ? I have super sandy soil and is that ok to mound up or layer it with organic matter? I’m pretty new to all of this so apologies if my question sounds silly.
Anything organic should work.
The main point is that it holds some moisture and allows roots to form.
That's only for the sake of stooling, but obviously your plant will likely prefer a nutrient rich compost to raw wood chips that initially suck nitrogen. Use what you have, it's not rocket science!
No apology necessary! In the gardening world, any question is a good question. We are all here for you Nathalie.
@@angelad.8944 aww thank you❣️🥰
It's a really good and reasonable question for sure, thanks for putting it forward...
I think absolutely raw wood chips may not be best.
Super super coarse wood chips not ideal
VERY pine dominant wood chips and/or Black Walnut, Cedar, etc.. in otherwords, intense woodchips not best
Raw manure or hot hot compost not great
Basically if you wouldn't use it as a mulch in your garden you wouldn't want it banked right up against the stems of the plants.
All those mulches listed can be put in pathways NEAR the plants and then after a year used as a lovely material.
Thanks for asking your question!
@@edibleacres thank you 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
When I order cuttings in the fall (plants I can't currently get locally) they tend to come in after it's habitable to over winter outside. Would a air prune bed work if placed in my root cellar?
I don't think I would set up an air prune box in a root cellar... They are meant for helping develop roots during the active growing season. A bottom heat propagator for hardwood cuttings sometime in later Feb., early March, etc, in a basement could be valuable to start rooting, but you'd want to then move the plants outside for the season!
Fantastic!! What are your favorite cultivars? I want to get some honey berry, but I’m not sure which ones to get. I don’t have a lot of space, so I have to be picky.
So many to explore. Boreal Blizzard, Boreal Beauty, Keiko, Yezberry Solo and Maxie... Those have been amazing. But we like most of 'em!
Would method work with Serviceberry? I have tried cuttings and air layers with no success. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I have not had any success with seaberry and this method... Hardwood cuttings, taken later winter WAY before the plants leaf out, and put on bottom heat in a light media seems to work pretty nicely. Softwood taken around August 1st for our area can also yield decent rooting.
@@edibleacres The plant I'm having problems with is serviceberry, Juneberry Amelanchier or shadblow. I'm sorry for the confusion.
AWESOME, THANKS
I bought two honey berries several years ago. One died, the other has flowers but has never set fruit. Is it one that needs a male and female plant, or just two plants, ir is it jyst defective?
They need two separate types to flower and make fruit. Figure out what type you still have and look up a compatible variety that can pollinate them and you should be good to go!
How close do 2 plants need to be in order to pollinate each other?
For Honeyberry they work with pollinators like bees so as long as the plants are within easy line of sight they should be OK. For best of best pollination probably 15-20 feet would be longer distance...
Can you infinity keep dividing them or will they eventually weaken?
As long as they have good food, it will work.
I actually believe this process can renew them... (within reason)
How do you protect the bushes from deer..? I went to my allitment and noticed 2/3 quite large bushes had 0 buds left :( same with many current plants and backberries. i know how to protect them but not in a simple way. Chicken netting would def. work but is horrible to work with... Leaving some food for wildlife isnt a problem but this equation - missing out on a year's harvest for a few hundred calories makes no sense
A fence around the area may be in order... OR we put bamboo staves around plants here or there as needed sometimes to help with deflection. Not a full solution but can be helpful
I know what im doing to the elderberry this year!
Elder is MUCH easier to propagate through hardwood cuttings. You can search out videos for info on that, and we plan to make more videos on that too :)
When stooling are you actively pruning out old growth?
Only if it is dead or diseased... Everything you see in this video is alive and well and will certainly stay!
@@edibleacres thanks, what honey berry do you enjoy? There are a lot lol Aurora is supposed to be big and sweet but not as nutritious.
what time of year do you add the layer?
Not sure the best timing to be honest, but we'll add it as time and materials allow :)
Thank you
what about for trees? is this a method that can work for getting root stock for fruit trees?
The only issue will be how suitable the rootstock is. Most fruit tree varieties are not grown on their own roots, but specific rootstock varieties for better drought/cold tolerance and to influence the final tree size (dwarf, semi dwarf, etc...)
You could start with a rootstock and coppice it, then stool layer to root the shoots. Re establish and then graft when diameter is appropriate
@@johnrobholmes ah good idea to coppice it. Thanks
Stool layering is a VERY common method of getting root stocks for grafting fruit trees. You can search online for ample info on that. There is more nuance to it, it is an annual coppicing routine along with stooling that produces standard commercial rootstocks in many contexts... Good question!
Can I layer my currants right now?
Any time of year... Just know that when layering in the dormant season the response is slower... You'll want to wait until Fall of this growing season to explore how well it worked (or add more during the season to really support the proceess!)
Your knowledge should be spread even further. Why don't you partner up with another chanel or two and do some gardening with them or help them out? That way you advertise yourself more and maybe get more subscribers. Your knowledge is gold and I'd love to see you hit half a million subscribers. You are just as good of not better than Charles Dowding. Go for it.
I have a whole lot of respect for Charles Dowding, really enjoy his channel. The beauty of it is that we have different ways we approach things and different focus so we both get to share different content to different audiences!
@@edibleacres well, he should know about YOU!
Watched the whole thing even though I've seen your other videos on the topic, and other people's too because free plants will never not interest me. I have gone pretty crazy with propagation this winter, of blackberry, raspberry, currants etc. (mostly doing hardwood cuttings though, pretty much just sticking them in the ground). How long are you looking at before a cloned honeyberry of this kind of size fruits? I guess the size of it will affect this. Do you prune back some of those bigger ones? I feel like maybe they would struggle a little due to the root damage otherwise? I just planted some year-old haskap transplants, I'll be stool-layering them just as soon as it makes sense to, great video!
Great questions!
1) Most of the shoots you see in this video will fruit THIS YEAR! A few of the smaller ones will be next year. I believe they fruit on 2nd year - perhaps 5th year wood...
2) We will not prune back the bigger ones, instead we'll either pot them up in rich, moist healthy soil or plant them in prime growing conditions with ample water and mulch. They'll establish absolutely fine with the ratios they have
They are hardy! They like rich and moist soil, and not absolutely blazing hot sun, but otherwise are EASY!
@@edibleacres Thanks for the pointers, that's awesome, so you can expect to drastically increase your harvests very quickly with this approach. I hope I see some fruit even this year on my young plants. My climate is rather harsh (very hot dry summers) and I have planted them in a spot where I expect them to get partially shaded by some seaberries and things in the next couple of years so we shall see. Keep up the good work, maybe one of these days I will be in a position to make some videos about doing this sort of thing in a temperate but hot climate.
How did you propagate the raspberry, blackberry, and currants, cuttings ? just leave them overwinter in the ground?
@gianfrancopaladino961 Yes, literally just stuck them in the ground and they leafed out and rooted in spring. Your mileage may vary, and it's not a 100% success by any means, but it's got to be the easiest way.
@gianfrancopaladino961 Oh, I have to qualify that, blackberries don't seem to work very well by that method, those I just dig up with some roots and propagate them that way.
Does this work with Hazelnut?
I believe so, but it takes at least 2+ years...
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That could be used for blueberries!
We've seen promising results there.
2019 was 3 years ago!
2022 has not had it's growing season yet.
You are right, I think these were planted in the fall of that year... I believe what you see in the video is 2 full growing seasons worth of growth/rooting, but perhaps I'm not remembering fully or correctly... Imagine this as being 2 or 3 years of growth :)
Can you stool raspberries?
Tip layering works better for me with raspberries and blackberries.
Personally I wouldn't try this with raspberries... They sucker and spread by roots below ground and that is by far the easiest way to propagate. Maybe we'll make a video about it!
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Know if any good places to purchase a nursery spade that will hold up for a good while? I don’t care for much of the flimsy junk that they pass off as a “tool” these days.
Search for 'king of spades nursery spade' that is the tool type we live by. I got ours from amleo.com but they look sold out right now...
@EdibleAcres I want to grow haskap berries. Actually I am from India and here such variety is not available. Can you please sell me a plant? Meanwhile if you are interested in any Indian varieties, kindly let me know. I can help you by purchasing and shipping to your location.
I'm sorry but we don't ship overseas... I hope you can find something local to you!
Sounds potentially invasive.
They aren't, but there may be value in exploring the idea of 'invasive' when it comes to hardy perennial sources of food and medicine. As fossil fuel explodes in price, supply chains falter and break and the food that is available gets more and more expensive and toxic, there may be immense value in finding 'invasive' allies in the food producing realm to bring into your landscape!
I thought this video was going to be about poop. I'm disappointed.
I feel you!
I'm sorry to have disappointed :)