Looking forward to this shoe, more than I was the Tempus although it grew on me for long and recovery runs. Still enjoying gt 2000 v10 but will pick these up! You had me when I could use it for a marathon as I’m using my super shoes less and less to stay healthy.
I love my Asics GT 2000 12 ! But I only less than 40 miles and so far is is far better than my old Kayano Lite 3 and Gel-Kayano 29. It is also a more nimble and comfortable shoes than a SolarBoost 5 ...
I now have the 11 and need the stability due to some bad ankles due to previous injuries. Is the 12 as stable as the 11, the new specs sound a bit more flexible, so I'm a bit in doubt.
Depends on the specific injury and your individual mechanics! Stability shoes have only been shown to be helpful with pronation related injuries (post tib, Achilles, etc). A consistent strengthening program and a rotation of shoes are the only things this far that have been shown to reduce injury risk in runners. -Matt
Great review. Is the stability the same as the GT 2000 11? Like you, I rip my shoes up pretty fast, especially on the outside of the shoe on my left foot (under my little toe). In fact, for some shoes I use Shoe Goo, and it helps a lot. If the wear become too acute, my left hip starts to hurt.
Thanks for this review. I don't run, I go on walks for exercise. Which do you think is better for walking, the GT-2000 or the Kayano 30? I know the Kayano 30 has more stack height, but I'm wondering if the slightly lesser heel to toe drop on the GT-2000 would make for a smoother transition during walking.
I only walk 5km every day and easily my favourite shoe is the puma pwr sqd ,worth a try when they have a good deal,I just bought 3 more pairs on special at $70 a pair,only shoe I buy now,hope this helps,good luck.
How does this shoe deal with long runs? Currently run in the Guide 16 which are great, but anything past 10mi start to feel uncomfortable (not super soft or protective)
@DoctorsofRunning great to hear! I have a marathon in a month and looking for a stability replacement for the Guide, but haven't found anything that doesn't weigh a ton (Kayano) and still has good stack height and softness to go the distance.
@@DoctorsofRunning I've been running in Guides for the great lock down and they feel snappier for short/med. runs, but am considering rotating in the GT-2000 for longer runs again (I had the v.9 a while back). I'm tentative though because of reviews that say the heel lockdown in the v.12 has changed and is not good for those of us with a very thin heel. I've battled PF and cannot handle any slippage in the heel, so this would be a deal breaker. Honest input appreciated; thanks!
Idk if I need a stability shoe but after knee pain and injuries it's been difficult to put in the miles I use to run. I'm 5'9" 210lb mainly active and my pains have been around the left top side of my left foot and knees towards the inside. Between this and the cumulus, what would double as a gym shoe and good for the long runs?
Got the Cumulus26, absolute won't recommend it for gym since the cushioning which is helpful in running, does the opposite while lifting weights. Feet keep wobbling in trying to balance the body after wearing these and lifting weights.
I cant decide between normal gt 2000 12 and trail version 12. I run on a light-mid gravel 60% and 40% on asphalt and sometimes in woods. Is trail version mich stiffer ride and how many miles do you get from them befor they loose bounce and start deteroerating foam?
Tempus or GT 2000 12 for BQ marathon, post PTTD? Entertaining doing a test marathon like I did with the Zoom Fly 4 which beat my super shoes, except no super shoe for the later mile stability.
This is my running shoe and I've done a few races in them. I'm looking for a raceday shoe or supershoe. Which shoe would give me some stability and durability.
When does this shoe soften up? I’ve only run 25k so far but my gawd it’s not a fun shoe to run in so far. Very stiff and harsh on the feet, and it gives me hot spots on the bottom of my feet. Picking up the pace makes it a little easier but easy pace within Zone 2 and it’s brutal.
I’m sending mine back to ASICS. I think they run too long and my foot doesn’t lock well into them..not enough padding around the ankle and tongue is thin so lace bite is a problem. My big toes feel bruised because they are too stiff in the forefoot.
I wonder if you have seen the Cumulus 26? I've tried them on and the padding round the ankle was immediately uncomfortable. I'm thinking about the GT-2000 12, but it sounds like it might have the same issue?
@@johnminah3333 well they got better and I’ve now run them over 700km. Just bought adidas SL2 and they are terrible for my stability compared to when I run in these so I’m actually tempted to buy another pair of them. This is why the 3 month return window for asics is so good because I kept running in them long enough to get used to them
This comment will be of the longer kind. It would actually be something of a ground breaking for shoetubers (because nobody talks about that in the biz) if you guys talk about running on soft surfaces as an alternative to buying expensive trainers. Even the not "supertrainer" type, the regular good running shoe is getting pretty ridiculous. Guys, keep in mind that a lot of people outside US, UK, Australia and NZ are watching you. Me for examle, I'm from Eastern Europe. We don't earn as much as the average american and on top of that the shoes here are more expensive than you get them for. For example Asics Magic Speed 2 was 150$ new at the store in US, it was 200$ here. It's discounted now and we are lucky to get it for 100$, but you guys have deals of 75$ and less. So you get these shoes for a lot cheaper, and you earn 5 times as we. A brasilian man commented that it's even worse in his country. Superblast is 200$ in US, in Brazil it's 310$! And brazilians for sure don't earn as much as amaricans... So maybe aknowledge us folks from the not so fortunate countries, who still want to run? I'm not a fast runner by any means, but I've been running consitently since 2018 and I found out that just grabbing one of the durable budget options from one the running brands (for example Asics Patriot) and running exclusively with that shoe on buffed out trails or grass is roughly the equivalent to running with mid stacked soft foam shoe - in terms of saving the legs from the impact. Positive of this is that the hard foam of the shoe won't compress anytime soon and the outsole of the shoe won't get chewed up because the surface is soft. You really can get a 1000mi from something like Asics Patriot. The upper of the shoe will get torn up way before anything else dies.
I get your point and it's a very valid one but, as a Brazilian, I have to tell you that I bought the Gt2000 12 for US$130, and they just launched it, prices can fluctuate a little but they were never US$310, even the Kayanos 30 cost less than that. I know, it doesnt change your point, but this information is incorrect, this brazilian person was probably trying to get attention by exaggerating. Cheers!
@@davidj.4814 Thanks for the reply, David. In my country Asics Superblast cost 240$. I quickly checked the brasilian asics site and it says R$1599 Brazilian Reals, converted to USD it's 324$. Maybe this is a website with hugely overprised numbers and you guys don't overpay that much...
It’s listed as stability. I think they list in their Pronation section neutral/stablity in that they intend it for both runners. Maybe confusing description, but it is a stability trainer for sure.
Looking forward to this shoe, more than I was the Tempus although it grew on me for long and recovery runs. Still enjoying gt 2000 v10 but will pick these up! You had me when I could use it for a marathon as I’m using my super shoes less and less to stay healthy.
I love my Asics GT 2000 12 ! But I only less than 40 miles and so far is is far better than my old Kayano Lite 3 and Gel-Kayano 29. It is also a more nimble and comfortable shoes than a SolarBoost 5 ...
Does it come in extra wide 4e Version??
@amanverma-yj4hf is not available in my region .
I use Nimbus 25, but this is a great looking shoe and will go to my local asics shop and try it on to feel it..!
Yesterday I purchased the same it's really good ..
It's one of only a handful of stability running shoes with an extra wide option.
Thanks for pointing out the flexibility.
I now have the 11 and need the stability due to some bad ankles due to previous injuries. Is the 12 as stable as the 11, the new specs sound a bit more flexible, so I'm a bit in doubt.
Is this a good shoes for running a 1.5 mile run in 15 minutes or less and for PT in the police academy?
Great info as always! Custom Orthotics vs Stability Shoes…which do you recommend for chronic ankle/lower-leg injuries?
Depends on the specific injury and your individual mechanics! Stability shoes have only been shown to be helpful with pronation related injuries (post tib, Achilles, etc). A consistent strengthening program and a rotation of shoes are the only things this far that have been shown to reduce injury risk in runners.
-Matt
Appreciate what you guys do! 🙌
This or arahi 6 better for overpronation?
Great review. Is the stability the same as the GT 2000 11? Like you, I rip my shoes up pretty fast, especially on the outside of the shoe on my left foot (under my little toe). In fact, for some shoes I use Shoe Goo, and it helps a lot. If the wear become too acute, my left hip starts to hurt.
No Sir the 11 is far different from the 12, the 12 is worth the price tho get it if u can
Thanks for this review. I don't run, I go on walks for exercise. Which do you think is better for walking, the GT-2000 or the Kayano 30? I know the Kayano 30 has more stack height, but I'm wondering if the slightly lesser heel to toe drop on the GT-2000 would make for a smoother transition during walking.
I only walk 5km every day and easily my favourite shoe is the puma pwr sqd ,worth a try when they have a good deal,I just bought 3 more pairs on special at $70 a pair,only shoe I buy now,hope this helps,good luck.
Thanks for the tip! I’ve never tried Puma before, so I’ll give them a try. Pretty good price, too!
How does this shoe deal with long runs? Currently run in the Guide 16 which are great, but anything past 10mi start to feel uncomfortable (not super soft or protective)
Long runs have been great! The cushioning is softer and protective without being mushy. This one wins over the guide series for me.
-Matt
@DoctorsofRunning great to hear! I have a marathon in a month and looking for a stability replacement for the Guide, but haven't found anything that doesn't weigh a ton (Kayano) and still has good stack height and softness to go the distance.
@@DoctorsofRunning I've been running in Guides for the great lock down and they feel snappier for short/med. runs, but am considering rotating in the GT-2000 for longer runs again (I had the v.9 a while back). I'm tentative though because of reviews that say the heel lockdown in the v.12 has changed and is not good for those of us with a very thin heel. I've battled PF and cannot handle any slippage in the heel, so this would be a deal breaker. Honest input appreciated; thanks!
Great one
Idk if I need a stability shoe but after knee pain and injuries it's been difficult to put in the miles I use to run. I'm 5'9" 210lb mainly active and my pains have been around the left top side of my left foot and knees towards the inside. Between this and the cumulus, what would double as a gym shoe and good for the long runs?
Got the Cumulus26, absolute won't recommend it for gym since the cushioning which is helpful in running, does the opposite while lifting weights. Feet keep wobbling in trying to balance the body after wearing these and lifting weights.
I swich from kayano to gt ! I enjoy this sho a lot more than kayano😊
I cant decide between normal gt 2000 12 and trail version 12. I run on a light-mid gravel 60% and 40% on asphalt and sometimes in woods. Is trail version mich stiffer ride and how many miles do you get from them befor they loose bounce and start deteroerating foam?
I have always loved the trail versions of the GT 2000 series.
What is the best racing stability shoe?... if any.
How's the midfoot width? I'm wondering if the wide versions also have wider bases, as opposed to just more upper material.
Sounds like it would be a suitable upgrade/replacement to my NB fuelcell prisms
They do not change the sole on any shoe until you go extra wide
@@paddywiggleTrue for Nike. The wide 2E versions have the regular soles which move around a bit and only the extra wide 4E have fitting soles.
How do these compare with Hoka Mach 6? I know Mach 6 is not a stability shoe, but the midsole shape and sidewalks look very similar.
Tempus or GT 2000 12 for BQ marathon, post PTTD? Entertaining doing a test marathon like I did with the Zoom Fly 4 which beat my super shoes, except no super shoe for the later mile stability.
12 🙌🏽
If i prioritise cush, will kayano 30 be the best?
Nimbus when u are a neutral runner, kayano for stability.
For €160 should be able to walk on Air!. All I need to know is will they give me some comfort for my Heel spur.
Seguro que te alivia el espolon y te da estabilidad
I know this is a bit late but the gel under the heel would definitely help
This is my running shoe and I've done a few races in them. I'm looking for a raceday shoe or supershoe. Which shoe would give me some stability and durability.
is the 13 just a upper update?
When does this shoe soften up? I’ve only run 25k so far but my gawd it’s not a fun shoe to run in so far. Very stiff and harsh on the feet, and it gives me hot spots on the bottom of my feet. Picking up the pace makes it a little easier but easy pace within Zone 2 and it’s brutal.
Does it offer enough stability if Im used to running in Katano 17 to kayano 28?
I’m sending mine back to ASICS. I think they run too long and my foot doesn’t lock well into them..not enough padding around the ankle and tongue is thin so lace bite is a problem. My big toes feel bruised because they are too stiff in the forefoot.
I still have them…at 180k. Once I laced them better and wore thicker socks I got used to them. They also softened up a bit.
I wonder if you have seen the Cumulus 26? I've tried them on and the padding round the ankle was immediately uncomfortable. I'm thinking about the GT-2000 12, but it sounds like it might have the same issue?
@@johnminah3333 well they got better and I’ve now run them over 700km. Just bought adidas SL2 and they are terrible for my stability compared to when I run in these so I’m actually tempted to buy another pair of them. This is why the 3 month return window for asics is so good because I kept running in them long enough to get used to them
Nice hair ❤
Good Marathon shoe?????? 👍
This comment will be of the longer kind.
It would actually be something of a ground breaking for shoetubers (because nobody talks about that in the biz) if you guys talk about running on soft surfaces as an alternative to buying expensive trainers. Even the not "supertrainer" type, the regular good running shoe is getting pretty ridiculous. Guys, keep in mind that a lot of people outside US, UK, Australia and NZ are watching you. Me for examle, I'm from Eastern Europe. We don't earn as much as the average american and on top of that the shoes here are more expensive than you get them for. For example Asics Magic Speed 2 was 150$ new at the store in US, it was 200$ here. It's discounted now and we are lucky to get it for 100$, but you guys have deals of 75$ and less. So you get these shoes for a lot cheaper, and you earn 5 times as we. A brasilian man commented that it's even worse in his country. Superblast is 200$ in US, in Brazil it's 310$! And brazilians for sure don't earn as much as amaricans...
So maybe aknowledge us folks from the not so fortunate countries, who still want to run?
I'm not a fast runner by any means, but I've been running consitently since 2018 and I found out that just grabbing one of the durable budget options from one the running brands (for example Asics Patriot) and running exclusively with that shoe on buffed out trails or grass is roughly the equivalent to running with mid stacked soft foam shoe - in terms of saving the legs from the impact. Positive of this is that the hard foam of the shoe won't compress anytime soon and the outsole of the shoe won't get chewed up because the surface is soft. You really can get a 1000mi from something like Asics Patriot. The upper of the shoe will get torn up way before anything else dies.
I get your point and it's a very valid one but, as a Brazilian, I have to tell you that I bought the Gt2000 12 for US$130, and they just launched it, prices can fluctuate a little but they were never US$310, even the Kayanos 30 cost less than that. I know, it doesnt change your point, but this information is incorrect, this brazilian person was probably trying to get attention by exaggerating. Cheers!
@@davidj.4814 Thanks for the reply, David. In my country Asics Superblast cost 240$. I quickly checked the brasilian asics site and it says R$1599 Brazilian Reals, converted to USD it's 324$. Maybe this is a website with hugely overprised numbers and you guys don't overpay that much...
What is a “super shoe”?
Expensive performance shoes for competitions like the Adios series or the Vaporfly
I am using GT1000 12 currently.
Should i still purchase GT2000 12?
gt 1000 12
were they good?
In your opinion what is the average mileage you expect out of a shoe? For reference. Thanks!
300 to 500 miles, depending on how much the outer sole wears and the midsole compresses.
Good for supinators?
No, better for pronators
It's a great looking shoe but unfortunately not for us supinators.
I have 11s
Why does it say it’s a neutral shoe on the website??….
It’s listed as stability. I think they list in their Pronation section neutral/stablity in that they intend it for both runners. Maybe confusing description, but it is a stability trainer for sure.
Please review asics gt 1000-12