Their reasoning behind the “softer” post in the K30 is that it actually has a more responsive (bouncy?) nature in that spot. It’s suppose to take you out of max pronation during your gait cycle faster as opposed to being a bit stuck there.
Looking forward to upgrading my newly beloved GT 2000 10. In a year. When it goes on sale. I'm still enjoying the 2000 8 Trail as well, even on the road. The Kayanos are my medical shoes when I need extra protection recovering from running in cushioned shoes like the Tempus. Oh man, the things ASICS could do to the DS Trainer..... With this evolution a new DS Trainer will knock Hyperion GTS out of the ring. Just think, Having the new Kayano for slow long, GT 2000 for daily, a new DS Trainer for speed work? Make us old folks happy!
I’ve just bought the kayano 30 and I was fitted and measured and now frustrated as my little toe feels restricted and I can feel my toes touching ends when foot falls forward. With all the focus these days on spreading one’s toes and strengthening feet and having room, I wish ASICS would give more space for toes when everything else fits so well.
Yeah I did. I am happy that the ankle and the arch support and rest of the shoe are good and very much help with impact but yeah toes still shifting forward too much and tapping. It’s really frustrating but then again, I’ve been working with all the foot strengthening, toe spreading exercises and bare foot work so I reckon the classic trainers just aren’t made for this foot health adjusting awareness ?? I really want the best of both worlds, the good support with the flexibility of enabling full foot movement and spread
I've had the same issue too. I've run in gt 2000 11 before, but wanted a more cushioned shoe for long runs. I did have an issue with the shoe being a bit on the small side, but the side of the gt 2000 is flexing enough to not make that a big deal, but kayano 30 has a very hard edge around the toe box for some frustrating reason, which makes my toes on the side hurt. I guess I like you, would prefer shoes with a bigger toe box. I don't get why the big shoe brands make narrow shoes and doesn't give wide toe box options like altra for example.
I had the same issue with Kayano 30 after my first 24k run. My toes are hitting the front of the shoes so I am going to move half size up. I don't understand why shoes companies make the toe box so narrow. Can't they learn from Altra?
copped my first pair of asics gt 2000-12 today. felt the kayano's were too stiff and chunky to be daily trainer for speed and miles as opposed to the 2000-12. sized up and they felt really natural and springy, similar to my OG pair of adrenaline gts 21s
Another good video. I really like the comparisons of stability shoes, especially when a company produces two versions. I am a long-time GT 2000 fan. My question concerning version 12 is how firm is the medial side (post). Version 10 had a moderately firm post. I switched to the GT 4000 v 3 for that reason (has a firmer post than the 2000 v 10). Is the GT 2000 v12 medial side (post) similar to the version 10 or 11? Lost of versions here, I know.
I currently run in Saucony Tempus and love them. I also like the ASICS TriNoosas a lot. How would this ASICS GT2000V12 compare to the SauconyTempos and ASICS TriNoosas?
Thanks for your always great reviews! I've always loved the Kayano, but the K30 has a pretty big heel to toe drop, 10mm. Slightly too much for my liking. I see the GT-2000 12 has an 8mm drop. Might have to transition to that shoe instead.
Great explanation, thank you for the video. I don't want to go with Asics this time around, I am a massive over-pronator. Would you mind suggesting the next best option?
I have been in gt2000 for YEARS, but the 9 was the last one I could wear without knee pain. I have tried the 10 and the 12 with the new "posting" but can't seem to transition to them. I am running out of 9s! I am trying to figure out what it is that differs so much that my body doesn't like. Too much stability? Heel height? Help!!!
They are NOT the same foam. The kayano is slightly denser with the FFBLAST PLUS ECO foam. The GT-2000 has the FFBLAST PLUS foam which is slightly bouncier.
How's the breathability on the GT-2000? I've had a lot of issues with the breathability in the K30s; especially with the hotter than usual summer. It seems to be a recurring issue for a lot of Asics shoes this year.
I went for the Kayano 30 size 44 wide version. It had a much roomier toe box and better cushioning. Perfect for me who use my Kayanos for daily long walks and a 5 km runs once a week. I doubt the gt 2000 is as durable and pleasant to walk in daily for long hours during work etc.
wish they didn’t make the Kayano copy the Hokas with such a huge cushion. it’s so uncomfortable that it feels like wearing heels. (i wouldn’t know but i’d imagine heels)
@@DoctorsofRunning I currently run in Saucony Tempus and love them. I also like the ASICS TriNoosas a lot. How would this ASICS GT2000V12 compare to the SauconyTempos and ASICS TriNoosas?
@@DoctorsofRunning I currently run in Saucony Tempus and love them. I also like the ASICS TriNoosas a lot. How would this ASICS GT2000V12 compare to the SauconyTempos and ASICS TriNoosas?
Hi I would like to know which one you recommend if I have posterior tibial tendonitis and Im currently using nimbus 25 and the pain has increased when I bought Nova blast 4, I now want to get a more stable shoes, thanks for the great content. And maybe over this which shoes overall do you recommend for this kind of injury thanks
which one would you say is more durable? I don't use them only for running but to train outside (boxing, sprints, etc) and I haven't found a shoe that lasts long enough
I was told by a podiatrist that I have overpronation and to consider buying some ASICS trainers. But I don’t know of these 2 shoes to go for as I just want to fix the problem! Kayano 30 does feel more bouncy and cushiony but I don’t if that’s a good or bad thing in order to help fix this overpronation. For context I walk a bit duck-like 😂and my big toes slightly point out. Slightly hoping the GT 2000 12 is better because they’re cheaper but willing to pay for 30 kayanos if they’re better. Any advice please!!
El tejido de la gt rompe prematuramente, ya me paso con la cúmulus 25 y las cambie por estas gt 2000 no vuelvo a comprar Asics, por que su tejido reciclado se deteriora muy rápido.
For a wide footed flat footed overpronator looking for daily trainer in marathon training (have other shoesnfor uptempo stuff) but for the long slow runs...GT or Kayano??
I’m really sad that asics is making shoes based on trends and not thinking about stability and just slapping a bunch of foam and calling it a day. It’s been hard to sell asics stability shoes for people that need more support.
Our customers demand visually more shoe for their credit money. So no one buys compact looking shoes anymore. With bigger shoes people feel more secure and richer.
@@tongotongo3143 it’s just silly because it’s not brand being intentional or thinking about there products, like fits will be and and lockdown will be bad and the Hoka using Eva rubber instead of real rubber meaning the shoes wear out super quickly.. I haven’t seen companies make good shoes sense 2017…
If companies start making the best and most durable sneakers they wouldn’t last long in this business. That said, there are still very good old style running sneakers like New Balance 574; 327 Adidas SL72 etc.
Their reasoning behind the “softer” post in the K30 is that it actually has a more responsive (bouncy?) nature in that spot. It’s suppose to take you out of max pronation during your gait cycle faster as opposed to being a bit stuck there.
Looking forward to upgrading my newly beloved GT 2000 10. In a year. When it goes on sale. I'm still enjoying the 2000 8 Trail as well, even on the road. The Kayanos are my medical shoes when I need extra protection recovering from running in cushioned shoes like the Tempus. Oh man, the things ASICS could do to the DS Trainer..... With this evolution a new DS Trainer will knock Hyperion GTS out of the ring. Just think, Having the new Kayano for slow long, GT 2000 for daily, a new DS Trainer for speed work? Make us old folks happy!
Can you get a job at Asics and make this happen? I've been saying exactly this
The K30 is a better walking shoe, the GT2k is a better running shoe.
This really helped me to understand the differences and choose the right one for me - Thank you!! 🏃🏻
I’ve just bought the kayano 30 and I was fitted and measured and now frustrated as my little toe feels restricted and I can feel my toes touching ends when foot falls forward. With all the focus these days on spreading one’s toes and strengthening feet and having room, I wish ASICS would give more space for toes when everything else fits so well.
Did you buy the wide model ?
Yeah I did. I am happy that the ankle and the arch support and rest of the shoe are good and very much help with impact but yeah toes still shifting forward too much and tapping. It’s really frustrating but then again, I’ve been working with all the foot strengthening, toe spreading exercises and bare foot work so I reckon the classic trainers just aren’t made for this foot health adjusting awareness ?? I really want the best of both worlds, the good support with the flexibility of enabling full foot movement and spread
@@caddycallaghanare you sure they aren't sliding and you need a better lockdown at the ankle? Are you using the runners knot?
I've had the same issue too. I've run in gt 2000 11 before, but wanted a more cushioned shoe for long runs. I did have an issue with the shoe being a bit on the small side, but the side of the gt 2000 is flexing enough to not make that a big deal, but kayano 30 has a very hard edge around the toe box for some frustrating reason, which makes my toes on the side hurt. I guess I like you, would prefer shoes with a bigger toe box. I don't get why the big shoe brands make narrow shoes and doesn't give wide toe box options like altra for example.
I had the same issue with Kayano 30 after my first 24k run. My toes are hitting the front of the shoes so I am going to move half size up. I don't understand why shoes companies make the toe box so narrow. Can't they learn from Altra?
copped my first pair of asics gt 2000-12 today. felt the kayano's were too stiff and chunky to be daily trainer for speed and miles as opposed to the 2000-12. sized up and they felt really natural and springy, similar to my OG pair of adrenaline gts 21s
Another good video. I really like the comparisons of stability shoes, especially when a company produces two versions. I am a long-time GT 2000 fan. My question concerning version 12 is how firm is the medial side (post). Version 10 had a moderately firm post. I switched to the GT 4000 v 3 for that reason (has a firmer post than the 2000 v 10). Is the GT 2000 v12 medial side (post) similar to the version 10 or 11? Lost of versions here, I know.
Do we have a wide option in gt 2000 12?
I currently run in Saucony Tempus and love them. I also like the ASICS TriNoosas a lot. How would this ASICS GT2000V12 compare to the SauconyTempos and ASICS TriNoosas?
Thanks for your always great reviews! I've always loved the Kayano, but the K30 has a pretty big heel to toe drop, 10mm. Slightly too much for my liking. I see the GT-2000 12 has an 8mm drop. Might have to transition to that shoe instead.
How does the GT 2000 11 compare the 12?
i was curious to know more about the waterproof gore-tec layer in the GT. or maybe it doesn't have it. that's my next search item.
Great explanation, thank you for the video. I don't want to go with Asics this time around, I am a massive over-pronator. Would you mind suggesting the next best option?
what is the best option for pronator runners ?
Is there a place in a rotation for both?
I have been in gt2000 for YEARS, but the 9 was the last one I could wear without knee pain. I have tried the 10 and the 12 with the new "posting" but can't seem to transition to them. I am running out of 9s! I am trying to figure out what it is that differs so much that my body doesn't like. Too much stability? Heel height? Help!!!
Thanks man very useful video! i have been using kayano for years but will prob transition to gt-2000
They are NOT the same foam. The kayano is slightly denser with the FFBLAST PLUS ECO foam. The GT-2000 has the FFBLAST PLUS foam which is slightly bouncier.
How's the breathability on the GT-2000? I've had a lot of issues with the breathability in the K30s; especially with the hotter than usual summer. It seems to be a recurring issue for a lot of Asics shoes this year.
I went for the Kayano 30 size 44 wide version. It had a much roomier toe box and better cushioning. Perfect for me who use my Kayanos for daily long walks and a 5 km runs once a week. I doubt the gt 2000 is as durable and pleasant to walk in daily for long hours during work etc.
wish they didn’t make the Kayano copy the Hokas with such a huge cushion. it’s so uncomfortable that it feels like wearing heels. (i wouldn’t know but i’d imagine heels)
Which would you say is better for walking though?
Kayano 30
@@DoctorsofRunning I currently run in Saucony Tempus and love them. I also like the ASICS TriNoosas a lot. How would this ASICS GT2000V12 compare to the SauconyTempos and ASICS TriNoosas?
@@DoctorsofRunning I currently run in Saucony Tempus and love them. I also like the ASICS TriNoosas a lot. How would this ASICS GT2000V12 compare to the SauconyTempos and ASICS TriNoosas?
@@gustavogo2915tempus for running and kayano for walking?
Hi I would like to know which one you recommend if I have posterior tibial tendonitis and Im currently using nimbus 25 and the pain has increased when I bought Nova blast 4, I now want to get a more stable shoes, thanks for the great content. And maybe over this which shoes overall do you recommend for this kind of injury thanks
For me it was the kayano, the rocker takes the pressure off the ankles which helped with the post tib.
I have ptt and the kayano has been great for that. Haven't tried the gt2000 v12 but now that it is on sale I am looking forward to trying it.
I had a pair of Kayanos but I the feel didn’t feel the same as 2000s or 1000s so I sent them back
Yeah they feel really clunky and heavy
can I add arch support to these or is that going to "over correct " my flexible flat foot?
Try wearing them first, and if you feel you need a little extra arch support, grab some
Would you recommend any of them or another one as a stability shoe ? (Light pronation) and if another one - which one could you recommend?
Does the gt 2000 12 have annoying reinforcements in the forefoot on the front/upper mesh?
The mom yes
which one would you say is more durable? I don't use them only for running but to train outside (boxing, sprints, etc) and I haven't found a shoe that lasts long enough
What kind on insole does it have?
how do these compare to the gel nimbus 25
How do these 2 models compare to the Nimbus 25 in terms of cushioning 'around' the foot for someone with arthritis? All feedback appreciated 👍
Jack Jack be nimble Jack be quick
Is 2000 10 better than 11 and 12.if you pronation
Have both. 12 is softer and bouncier yet still responsive. 10 was too firm. 12 is better in my opinion.
I was told by a podiatrist that I have overpronation and to consider buying some ASICS trainers. But I don’t know of these 2 shoes to go for as I just want to fix the problem! Kayano 30 does feel more bouncy and cushiony but I don’t if that’s a good or bad thing in order to help fix this overpronation. For context I walk a bit duck-like 😂and my big toes slightly point out. Slightly hoping the GT 2000 12 is better because they’re cheaper but willing to pay for 30 kayanos if they’re better. Any advice please!!
We love the GT-2000. Worth a shot and better fit.
El tejido de la gt rompe prematuramente, ya me paso con la cúmulus 25 y las cambie por estas gt 2000 no vuelvo a comprar Asics, por que su tejido reciclado se deteriora muy rápido.
For a wide footed flat footed overpronator looking for daily trainer in marathon training (have other shoesnfor uptempo stuff) but for the long slow runs...GT or Kayano??
I would definitely go Kayano 30 for that!
I’m really sad that asics is making shoes based on trends and not thinking about stability and just slapping a bunch of foam and calling it a day. It’s been hard to sell asics stability shoes for people that need more support.
True. Loads of foam is not good for stability.
@@johncarleton1453depends how it's done. Kayano 30 is a very stable shoe. Keeps me locked in.
Our customers demand visually more shoe for their credit money. So no one buys compact looking shoes anymore. With bigger shoes people feel more secure and richer.
@@tongotongo3143 it’s just silly because it’s not brand being intentional or thinking about there products, like fits will be and and lockdown will be bad and the Hoka using Eva rubber instead of real rubber meaning the shoes wear out super quickly.. I haven’t seen companies make good shoes sense 2017…
If companies start making the best and most durable sneakers they wouldn’t last long in this business. That said, there are still very good old style running sneakers like New Balance 574; 327 Adidas SL72 etc.
Do they both have a rocker?
Yes, although more significant in the Kayano
GT 2000 v Tempus comparison?
mm and ounces,??could you not just stick to the metric system? get out of the 1700's maybe.