1000s of Patch Swapped & Fake Sports Cards 🚨
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- 1000s of Patch Swapped & Fake Sports Cards 🚨
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This is SportsCard TV.
I mainly made my videos in Chinese but sometimes also in English.
The PSA graded fake cards and fake autos from 2015 Replay are all deactivated now.
Finally! I've been talking about these fake cards for a year.
Cheers!
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This is the video in English that I made 8 months ago about the 2015 Replay cards.
Thank you for all the great work you have been doing. That is good to hear! There is a number of stories I’ve raised that have taken a long time to get deactivated too so I know the feeling.
Please reach out on instagram if you ever want to chat. I am happy to help raise awareness as much as I can
Only thing I can think of to solve this is for card manufacturers to not only keep a checklist of cards, but also to have a database of images for what they're supposed to look like after being created. Of course doing that for every single card wouldn't make sense, but maybe anything /25 and under can have a picture match, to have something to compare to when purchasing a patch card?
Agree. I’ve talked to this idea in the past. Would solve so many issues
Some product, the manufacturers should make less inventory, grade and slab everything in production and sell accordingly,imo.
you mean nfts. lol NFT>physical
Upper Deck had counterfeit deterrent holograms all the way back in the 1980's on every single card. Technology today could easily be implemented to prevent further abuse of the market. This was good info Dan.
Glad I could help mate.
Futera also has some really good measures too. Their website is broken now but you used to put the code on back of card on website and it would say where your relic is from and also show you on the jersey too
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@@todddillon613 haha I’ve fixed the typo now
If they patch swap on cards that are ones panini with "The enclosed officially licensed material is not associated with any specific player, game, or event" really there's no difference because not even the manufacturer can be bothered to take the time to put game worn in.
As for fake cards does it really come as a shock to anyone that fake cards are coming out of China, the land of knock-off clothes, shoes, DVD's etc... it's a market that is very lucrative these days so they will make it. When Louis Vuitton was a really big in the mid 2000s China got so good at making counterfeit LV items that the veteran sales people in LV boutiques could not distinguish real from replica.
What we are seeing now is just the beginning it's going to get worse, a lot worse.
Yep, first paragraph is an interesting one. Others feel the same way and it makes sense. Game used stuff is being taken out too though
@@DanTheCardMan2 yeah taking out game used makes ZERO sense to me, like I know they'd be doing it for aesthetic reasons but ask any collector what would the prefer a game used white napkin or a 3 colour part of a letter/number patch that's not associated with anyone/thing aka jersey of the the rack at a sporting goods store & 9/10 will opt for game used
This is SportsCard TV.
I don't agree with you saying "the land of knock-off clothes, shoes, DVD's etc... it's a market that is very lucrative these".
Don't have to be a racist. This is the main reason that I don't make these videos in English. For sure I'll get lots of racist comments like this.
@@SportsCardTV unfortunately it’s a sentiment that many have and it’s more out of ignorance than anything else. Don’t let it stop the great work you are doing.
@@SportsCardTV I don't think you understand what racism is, because in no way was that comment racist.
It's factual that s lot of counterfeit product comes from China I didn't say that it was inherently good or bad because at the end of the day a lot of the worlds goods come from China as a whole. So maybe you should be a little bit more reserved before you want to label people as racist
Maybe if people would stop spending A ridiculous amount of money on a piece of cardboard that let me remind you was printed in a factory just like these cards were, then the scammers and people like that would probably stop because they realize this price is not worth it
There are so many different sets being produced that no grader can be an expert. More will follow.
Yup
Thanks for your service in helping and informing the hobby! You do us a great service.
Thank you, I’m just doing my part but glad I can help
Ever feel like just throwing your hands up!?!?
Feels that way sometimes. It never ends.
I have numerous occasions. Tbh I’ve been wanting to get into the business aspect of the hobby but it seems greed has taken the joy out of my childhood hobby.
what the heck, PSA graded those homemade cards? smh
It was an isssue with the older label. They grade the sticker only not the card but it causes confusion
Kevin Burge was the OG when it came to putting fake patches in cards. They started by putting insane patches in high-numbered cards as practice, that didn't state "Prime" on them. Some people bought them thinking card companies would use insane logo patches for a card /299 without "prime" or "prime patch" on it. Burge and gang knew the auto versions they used could be slabbed since PSA and BGS didn't authenticate the patch.
I'm happy PSA will not be slabbing "art" and "custom" cards" anymore. A lot of these people are using modern card designs for their customs and that can mislead any buyers down the road. I'm not shocked Chinese companies jumped in on this and sure they have been dumping fakes into the market for a bit. I wouldn't trust a single Wemby Prism Silver even if it was slabbed.
Thanks for the history lesson. A lot to be learned about bad deeds and how far they go back
Thank you for enlightening the public about these scams. Those who don’t want to hear about it are either in denial or simply obstinate. My guess is they’re dreading the fact they may have invested in fake cards.
Yeah I think so too, either that or they’re helping perpetuate them?
A big problem in cards is the difference between perceived value and real value. Cards is all perceived value. And it's set up that way behind closed doors. Its a carnival show. Its concerning that the Chinese are breaking , nothing against Chinese people but it looks like fanatics doesn't need the USA for cards. Corporations go where the money is and that's not the USA anymore
The money in Asia dwarfs anything being seen in the western markets. They can buy the hobby multiple times over
@DanTheCardMan2 Yeah, I would think with that size population, everything is a big market. I know little to nothing about how cards are done in China. I thought it was concerning seeing these global mega breaks where large amounts of cases are involved and average buy ins over 20k for regular product. Like what percentage of product goes to these global versions of backyard breaks
This is why card companies need to give out a full checklist of what's in the product. And pictures of all patch autos. Regular cards can also be fake however card companies need to be hand in hand with grading companies and let work together and it will help their integrity of both companies. And or we need to stop shipping oversea unless it goes threw a new platform besides ebay authenticity. They need new regulations on their side also
Pictures of patch autos is imperative. Even if it’s for high end product only. At least that’s a start
the rise of NFTS...fake cards will be a thing of the past!!
No one wants an nft lol
Huge issue, only to get worse, without efforts from the manufacturers and grading companies to limit the scammers' ability to defraud consumers.
Honestly, I see that as akin to telling someone like Picasso that he is responsible for making sure nobody tries to knock off his paintings. I get it, but I find it hard for the manufacturer to be responsible
The hobby already tries to monitor (identify fake patches, autos, cards,....) but it would certainly be easier if manufacturers/grading companies documented their work.
Just having a patch archive would fix a lot of the fakes.
Picasso (other artists) would likely be a pretty good sources to verify their work.
to make the transition to nfts.
It would be ideal if the card manufacturers took high res photos of the chase cards before it gets packed….but I’ll wait another 5 years for that to happen.
Both the Sengun and Bird cert numbers don’t check out on PSA’s website, so it seems at least PSA didn’t grade the cards. Fake cards, labels and slabs. Still crazy.
Fanatics and Panini don't care. Once that box gets paid for their liability is gone when it comes to scams and fraud. Everyone else who touches these cards is not so lucky.
Have seen bunch of these patch swapped cards on card hobby…. Buyer beware for sure. Really great video Dan. Much love from China.
Truly hope none have entered my collection
Hi Dan,
Thank you for your latest video. I must say that I really appreciate your channel and your vigilance for the hobby. But I grow quite depressed at the ways that some people defraud the public. I guess that I am Pollyanna to expect that people will be honourable.
Keep up your great work,
Peter
Thank you mate.
No need to get upset though. This is a big issue but the hobby is a great place. Just be vigilant and aware and your fun shouldn’t be ruined
Keep preaching. Your not negative your informative. Thanks Johnny
I appreciate that 🫡
The only once that care are true collectors and guess what there are not to many left ! I love your content because it makes me not like these influencers anymore who just put the super greed in the hobby !
Thank you mate
Great video Dan. Pretty concerning stuff, especially with the quantities involved.
I’m so happy that I stayed at the arse end of the hobby. I only collect Islanders cards and a couple of real old time Baseball players. Nobody messing around with those cards😂
If it's graded by PSA needs to make a statement how they messed up. Which leads me to, why is PSA the top grader preference to buyers?
Just another reason out of many, as to why it’s time to get out of the card collecting market. It’s become a money racket and has nothing to do with being a fun hobby anymore. It’s become a way to just suck the money out of everyone.
Don't need to run, cards are fun. Just need to be vigilant.
This doesn't really affect me as I mostly put affordable sets together and grade my own hits from wax but this is crap for the hobby and especially the end collector who ends up with something that is not authentic. I fear fraud will get way worse in the hobby in the next few years.
Green Raiders hat? Interesting.
Haha not the first to comment on that, is that not a thing in the states? They make one for each team in a few base colours (olive green, maroon, cream etc)
PSA is to blame as well people trust them to authenticate and they are grading these fakes
Why am I not surprised Probsteins name being involved with this
All the hobby heavyweights are burned by this
Dan the Man! Keep up the good work
Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Another blow to singles collectors. :(
Just need to be more vigilant
If the patch autos were fake then grading companies such as PSA and BGC would not had authenticated a grade. Why bother buying the high-end packs if each Patch auto is fake to begin with. #scam #thehobbyisdead
Another video confirming how useless PSA is.. can't catch anything.. soon cards will have QR codes on the backs in holigram haha
Manufacturers should be doing more
If the patch is already not player or game worn why does it matter if a patch is swapped out with a better looking non player worn or game used patch? lol
Cause most of these are game used
Panini, Topps, Probstein etc will do absolutely nothing in these instances because they could care less. As long as the money is flowing, they don’t give a shit about anything else. Sad.
This “hobby” is no more. It’s grown into a billion dollar enterprise since Covid. I wouldn’t doubt if Panini and PSA are in bed together or maybe a group of workers for Panini are back door hustling l. Topps too now who knows. At this point, collector’s a pretty much doomed if you’re purchasing online. Really have to do your homework and and take close look at the pictures and check PSA registry.
Their volume is so high now that they’ve lost sight imo
Thanks for the information. Anyone that says your being negative is a moron. These are things us collectors need to know so we dont get screwed over. The hobby unfortunately has a ton of grease balls.
Unfortunately plenty share that sentiment on a weekly basis. it's never made sense to me lol
I may be an idiot but at least I'm always positive
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Is the psa slabs fake aswell? How would psa authenticate fakes?
They authenticated the autos, not the first time a grader has passed a fake.
@@DanTheCardMan2 that's pretty pathetic if there authenticating autos that are fakes.
what happens to the buyers of these cards that are just finding out there card has been swapped sucks
Honestly not much you can do. Just hope it was on eBay and you can get a refund
Doesn’t matter it’s not associated with any player game or event either way
Modern sure but they’re also swapping game used stuff
To be honest id rather have one with a patch replaced than a napkin. I dont see any problem with it as long as its not game used. Also I recommend using Primacolor pastels to clean up the white edges/corners. its get thru PSA everytime.
They are replacing game used ones too
It's fraud mate. Personally I'd rather not have some scumbag swapping out patches of a card I might potentially buy. This is part of a larger problem. Many people just don't care enough about the dodgy behaviour that is rife in the hobby. Hopefully Fanatics with PSA will up their game going forward.
@1stBowman As a buyer I'd rather have an artist add a personal touch to a corporate product. If an artist takes time to make a card better without damaging the card I'm all for it. If I have to pay extra I will.