Red Arrows documentary Danger Men - pt 5 of 6
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- Опубліковано 4 лют 2009
- The Red Arrows arrive in Quebec for the International Air Show, and meet the US Navy/USMC Blue Angels, the USAF Thunderbirds and the Canadian Air Force Snowbirds. It's time for the display teams to check each other out.
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I am in awe of the Red Arrows. There is no display team anywhere in the world that comes close to them. They are pure perfection.
All three of these military demo teams are top-notch, but in terms of popularity, I would rate them in the following order:
1. USN Blue Angels
2. USAF Thunderbirds
3. RAF Red Arrows
I've seen all three teams perform many times over the years, beginning as a kid in 1969.
I still love the Red Arrows,no one else
Facts are that each country's display teams use different craft to suit their display style... the Arrows require highly manuverable but slow jets, the Angels need faster more powerful craft... you couldn't expect the Arrows to do their display using the Angels jets! They are ALL amazing pilots, no matter which country they hail from
Well that is where you are wrong. Most of the current display was actually made up of maneuvers that were created when the Blues flew the A-4 Skyhawk, which is nowhere near as powerful as the F/A-18. Even the Thunderbirds display are maneuvers from the days they flew the T-38 Talon. So I would suspect that if the Arrows were ever given a set of Typhoons, they would not only embrace them but they would take what they do now, refine it for the higher speeds and still make a unique show. Even the Frecce di Tricolori is impressive in their MB-339s.
I was there.
Red Ten's commentary was almost exclusively in French. Greatly appreciated !
Red Arrows win the drinking contest for sure. I like all four. All unique in their own way.
I love the brits, they are just so relaxed and cool,.. the americans are like robots.
But they are extremely polite which is nice
Sadly, the Red Arrows crews and ground crews are now required to do robotic drill movements on the ground as well.
They used to be so British and laid-back about the unimportant things.
There is nothing like them in the world
I love the Red Arrows Pilots they are awesome I watch then all the time over Nettleham field from one my bedroom window. xx
Yes...tight uniforms..That's what I first noticed with the US air show pilots
Can we stick David Cameron or Boris Johnson in one of these with a camera? That I would love to see xD
I've seen the U.S. Navy Blue Angels and the USAF Thunderbirds. I want to see the Red Arrows so badly but living on the west coast of the United States, I think I may have to travel a little bit.
Like yankeethunder1 says, vive la difference! The Red Arrows are showmen in training aircraft with tradition of entertaining the crowd and do everything where the crowd can see them. The Thunderbirds, whose pilots show tremendous class here, are powerhouses in extreme fighter aircraft. The mutual respect is what's impressive here.
The Blue Angels and Thunderbirds criss cross the US throughout the summer during air shows and and they decided who is going where i haven't heard of an Air Show in the US where both were there at the same time!
I can bet the Red Arrows went for drinks with the Canadians afterwards. Now, some Yanks might say "Yeah, the two loser teams going for consolation beers" , but I think its because there might be more intelligent conversation . You get Americans involved & it always revolves around them - and the Canadians & Brits just look at them , & then look at each other knowingly. The fact that the Canadians invited the Red Arrows to fly the evening display just confirms this
It's 12 hours bottle to throttle! The Canadians invited the Red Arrows to fly at the end of the show because they share the same Head of State and Monarch! Get it straight!
Red Arrows win all day long
***** Plus they are the best display team in the world
ragasdapper I agree that the Red Arrows are an excellent display team, but in my opinion I prefer the US Navy Blue Angels air shows!
From what I see... It's the Brits that make all the fuss... I'm american and I think that their all incredible... I live near a blue angel pilot so I know how difficult it is to do all those things... Congrats to all four teams!
I was in the RAF for 22 years, Aircraft Maintenance, and we always treated the Red Arrows groundcrew as right wankers. They thought they were the best but actually, they knew jack compared to the real workers. This vid makes my skin crawl when the groundcrew open their mouths
I'm surprised the American display teams don't get a medal for walkig i formation. The us forces get medals for just about everything else
Also the largest air force.
Wow
@mr9396 It would, but it's busy going mach 2.5
Sadly, The Arrows have had a number of fatal accidents in recent years.
I remember the time the Thunderbirds took all four planes into a loop, and all four hit the ground, making a diamond of four black smoking craters.
A horrible day, and one that fortunately led to improvements and it has never happened again.
It is true that all flight safety manuals are written in blood.
Ah the muricas were funny when they arrived
if you ever get chance to come to the uk come to Lincolnshire for the WADDINGTON airshow there our home team
haha 'it;s friday the 13th, what can posibly go wrong?'
@reindenaab I agree with that
The bertish people are proud to be from England
@mr9396 What is a METEOR missile?
@mr9396 The messerschmitts didn't have BVR missiles.
Snow birds and red aros rule
@tripleheshy
Sure, the Leagacy Hornet I agree, But I'm talking about the F/A 18 E-F modles. As a matter of fact there working on either a GE 505 or P.W F series that would put out 26K lbs of thurst each,
As a matter of fact I would put a Super Hornet over an F-15 C/D any day.
@Appclypse
The Square loop?
@machineman9 He said most capable, which they are... He didn't mention who has the better pilots.
Well, A, those were older planes with less stealth ability, and B, It's called redundancy. we do that alot
Where can I get this episode in full length ?
I might have a copy in the archive somewhere...
lancaster bomber
@machineman9 I'm not American,but the F-22......
@machineman9
I agree with some of that, but flying a boring plane like the T-45 for hi porformance is a bit silly to, I just rather see a L-39.
The Aero L-39 Albatros is unfortunately severely limited in its safe manouvreability due to the small, straight wing and lack of high-lift devices or modern controls.
It's damned good-looking, and looks like it's doing Mach 1 standing still, and looks very good in a James Bond film, standing in for more expensive planes, but... you know, late 1950s design, Soviet bloc, advanced and weapons trainer, light attack secondary role, twenty years older than even the Hawk...
Everytime, throughout the whole documentary, the wing commander's right rank slide always seems to be bigger than the left.. hmmm
So, how when was the last time the RAF got an air to air kill?
Somewhere over the Balkans in the late 1990s I think. Too long.
@mr9396 Nah, it's just showing off.
@machineman9 F-22 says hi.
FACTS ARE TH
lol!
United States military teams seem to go for a 'big and powerful aeroplane' approach. The UK seems to go for agility and performance. I prefer the Reds to the others... And I think some the US traditions for how the Airmen work is a bit silly.
@reindenaab USAF have lost 1 F15 in combat over Iraq in 1991
Sure it could, but they have to know where that gnat is, other wise they'd need more camera's than the paparazzi looking at every big of sky around.
most capable in the world my arse
And you have any evidence to the contrary?
you tell em, +Jason Looney
@yankeethunder1 Well of course, the USAF is HUGE. I still have a soft spot for the Red Arrows which are far more entertaining.
Blue Angels and the Thunderbirds do use the same planes that they fly in combat! the F-16's and they use different planes to practice the snowbirds and the red arrows should fly on Fat Albert!
'Most capable and advanced Air Force in the world'... The USAF said that in front of the RAF? Are they asking for a beating? Eurofighter, thanks.
in the Alaska red flag exercises 2 Luftwaffe eurofighters 'shot down' 4 F-22 raptors. 30+30 pilot got 3 F22 kills.
Okay, bro.
do you have any evidence?
@machineman9 F-22, F-35 thanks.
the f-22 raptor is still the best fighting air machine in the world
F-18E,and F-22 thanks.
Arrows don’t do much of any solo demonstrations. To many shapes they do. That’s their downfall for me. Snowbirds to slow and not loud enough but I put them ahead of the arrows because they do a good solo demonstrations and way more than the arrows. Blues and Tbirds rock you 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Half of their display is syncho (you would call it solo) pair Have you actually watched a FULL display?
Type '2008 Rhode Island ANG open house.-RAF Red Arrows.' Then get back to me.
kai73 yes I have and wasn’t impressed
@@sportscardsreportcardsI've never seen any US team get that close so low, you can actually hear the US crowd saying it. (after both US teams performed) But that's up to you my friend, but they're considered the best in the world, so it seems you're the odd one out.
kai73 you asked me a question and you got the answer. If it’s not the one you wanted then you have to keep asking until you get what you want to hear. Low for their size yes plenty. Faster and louder
@@sportscardsreportcards
Lowest and fastest one on one. Multiple times
Which was your original point.
Apart from spelling.
Who gives a rat's ass. It's not like the USAF is going to fight head to head with the RAF...
That is often tested in exercises of course, and we learn from each other, which is how it should be.
I understand the US Navy and Air Force were always interested in what had been discovered when the RAF fought post-WWII, which again, is how it should be.
@mr9396 You can't kill what your Radar can't find.
@machineman9
Yeah, I'll take on your Euro (notice its not British) with the U.S Navy's F/A 18 Super Hornet in day of the week, scew the Airforce, although there really nothing in comparison the F/A 22 Rator. But O'well
@tripleheshy
Super Hornet???
man do british people handle jealousy bad.
British are second to none everyone copies tham
@mr9396 Still, F-22 could hit em way before they came in range.
they need big jets i could do everything they done in a c152 or a pa28
yeah because he didn't want everyone to be jealous of the US kind of how you are now you see the he was being conservative if he wanted he could have said it.
The comments here are hysterical. The RAF couldn't hold the jock straps of the Blue Angels or Thunderbirds. To say our aviation capabilities are superior, including our demo teams is the understatement of the last century. Superior aircraft, superior support crew, superior training, superior discipline. The British have their areas of superiority that are impressive. Aviation is not one if those areas. It's okay, red coats, you don't have to get your knickers in a twist because the big bad Americans are better than you at something. Be loyal, support your nation, but be realistic.
You have obviously not heard or read what the Blue Angels or the Thunderbirds have to say about the Red Arrows. the Red Arrows came out best I am afraid. Deal with it, small fry.
gunggerdin1 Small fry - that's cute. The Red Arrows are outstanding and it's great that they came out on top. As for the comments by the American teams, that's what we refer to as "class". As stated in my post on one of the other videos, precision is defined differently between sub-sonic and super sonic aircraft - Mach .8 versus Mach 1.8. When you're not even flying at the speed of sound, being precise isn't quite as challenging. It's not their fault, they're using a training aircraft. I don't even know what the RAF uses for combat -
Jason Looney Wow, what an ignorant comment.
I love being called ignorant with absolutely no explanation as to how any of what I said was inaccurate. Arrogant? Perhaps. But not wrong.
+Aquarian Dreamster thank you for the information. I realize it's difficult admitting that the other guys equipment is superior and that his skill set likely is, as well. Not taking anything from the Arrow pilots, they're impressive, no doubt. The U. S. has a ridiculous defense budget to ensure military superiority. I'm sure the aircraft you mention are fine aircraft but not comparable to the F/A 18. The aircraft the Arrows use In the video is a trainer, like our T38 (F-5) or T-45. The 10, 15, & 16 are Air Force and I'm not as familiar but the 10 isn't an air to air combat plane anyway. The 18 is probably the most advanced aircraft in the world (skill set of the pilot included), aside from the Raptor. That gives its pilots a set of skills other pilots don't have. Not saying they're not capable, just at a disadvantage
American pailets r basic
The US are just the best can't com peat with them in anyhting.
neither can your spelling. cheers
im not even trying to be ignorant, but honestly the Raptor is better, thanks
Are you serious? USAF, Navy can burn Euro fighters any day of the week.
being skinny living longer better stunts plus russia has the best pilots in the world not usa