Alright I know some of you wanted me to do an Agatha video, and this was actually a fun vid to make so I'm glad you guys were on me to do this one. So I hope you like it! And THANKS for the THANKS to @GatorCris @JKOversion1 and @Dave01981
I really love that idea of making Death this higher cosmic title for a witch to possess, it’s a bit different but it feels simple and streamlined enough for people following to understand. While also not being too disimilar to Death’s recent depictions of inhabiting a person to experience what life is like to really grasp the meaning of her power
25:06 Wiccan is not a separate being from the Demiurge. He is himself the Demiurge, but just having willingly self incarnated in a human form. He just doesn’t have access to his demiurgic powers.
I don't think we're going to get into Mephisto, Chthon, Gaia or any of that cosmic Marvel stuff in Agatha All Along, tbh. Death seems to be a natural antagonist to a couple of the witches--most notably Lilia who saw Death standing over her "Maestra" (per the credits) in her vision, and Alice whose family has been haunted by this curse. I think Lilia saw Death coming for her family and tried to warn them but either wasn't listened to or was demonized. She has used her gift to evade Death for probably like 600 years? And what is a curse but setting Death upon a person? Alice's mom tried to ward against it but she couldn't "protect you" (in the words used in Episode 3). I think at least one of them will have the journey of not fighting Death but accepting it, probably Lilia with her visions ("Try to save Agatha!" spoken to whom? Jen?) The Young Avengers timeline in the comics also doesn't fit the MCU. There, Billy and Tommy were reincarnated as babies and raised by their families. With WandaVision having happened only three years prior, Billy must have been alive already at that time period ("A lot happened to be at 13"). The end credits reference a "near death" car crash in Eastview. Perhaps this is when Billy M's soul merges with Billy K's body? Question mark? The use of the term "near death" is interesting because it sort of implies Death has been cheated. She was supposed to Reap this soul but it escaped her. I think Rio will try to take him and who can stand against Death except Agatha whom Death is "not allowed" to kill for some reason? Is that why Lilia wants us to try to save Agatha?
I know that the show aired after you posted this, but no Lillia was not trying to say, "try to save Agatha." She was trying to say, "don't try to save Agatha". It was to Alice right before she died by Agatha's absorbing her magic.
This was an excellent watch! 👏🏾👏🏾. Thanks for the birthday wishes Tay. This episode was so coincidental as I was going to ask you who you thought Rio Vidal really was lol. Just shows you're always on it man 👊🏾👊🏾
Great video, I just found your channel doing some Marvel Comics research (Scarlet Witch lore mostly), and it’s great! I like your speculations about how the characters might evolve or reveal themselves and how developments in Marvel TV series are likely to set up future movies. Personally I love Agatha All Along. I was a little skeptical before it started but I think Jac Schaeffer and co have really knocked it out of the park. I am just waiting for the 2-part finale tomorrow where hopefully all will be revealed. I think the casting for the show is outstanding, especially Aubrey Plaza who’s one of my favorite actors-she definitely needed to be put in the MCU and who better to make her then Death herself 😂. Patti Lupone and Joe Locke have been revelations, and of Kathryn Hahn is A+. Keep up the good work, you’ve got a new subscriber 👍🏼
Rio Vidal is an amalgamation of 5 different characters into one character. Death is one of them. The others are Gaia, Emerald Warlock, Blackheart, and Morgan Le Fay.
In the Tarot the Death card usually represents the painful end of something (like a relationship or job) but the beginning of a new one, like the expression, When the wooden door closes, the iron door opens. So this could be as big as reincarnation or just a difficult transition in life. I don't think Rio is the Cosmic Entity Death, but a powerful Green Earth Witch who is powerfully channeling Death.
I don't recall the Scarlet Witch ever being confirmed as a separate multiverse entity from Wanda Maximoff. The Prophecy simply existed to warn people of the possibility that Wanda Maximoff at her fullest potential could overtake the multiverse, and this version of Wanda Maximoff shall be known as the Scarlet Witch. Now in the comics the Scarlet Witch IS a line of witches all coming from Wanda's family but that's very different from being some cosmic force.
Embodiment is likely a compromise the MCU has no choice but to make - unlike the ink and paper characters, actors aren’t evergreen immortals. Recasting someone is tricky too, but some sort of baton that can be passed would likely be the better solution.
Just throwing this out there somewhere, even though there does appear to be some truth to the story of Agathas son, given the episode also showed her to be more than willing to try and cheat the witches road, is ot not possible Agatha didnt enter that deal completely in a strait forward manner? Also, given that many wandavision fans (and the subsequent target Agatha audience) arent necessarily comic book people, or even broad scale MCU people ive been trying to think of how a Wiccan reveal would work and make sense without any of that context. From a storytelling perspective, in order for that reveal to not feel like it comes out of nowhere, it needs a precedent. I think the hows and whys of how that reveal would work will be set up in the stort of what really happened with Nicholas.
Maybe Rio is an Avatar of Death. Other cosmic beings have Avatars like Galactus' avatar is the silver surfer. But also beings like Mistress Love and Master Hate have been known to have Avatars as well.
- Mephisto is a Big Bad in the next saga, right? - Would the universe rewrite include New Salem? You mentioned it - I'm still waiting for Nightmare to impact after Doctor Strange 2
People are saying that Teen could be Billy and Nicholas at the same time so why Rio can't be both Green Witch and Death. That how it works, right theory fans? 😏
Actually it would be easy for Death to be the first green witch. Death and decay is a part of the cycle of life. Everything needs something else to die in order to live.
@@DredgensVein Dracula is the villain of Blade. You already know what the Blood Hunt is about. They want Dracula to train him and he becomes OP. I also heard Scarlet Witch will be on the team. She’s the only one powerful enough to take him out.
these toy company's man. every time a new series or shows come out and it's a race between lego and funko as to who's gonna do the big oopsie we didn't mean to do that spoiler.
It is interesting if Rio Vidal is Death, especially with her literal name meaning, you would think she's more aligned with being related to Gaea. Can't wait for the whole reveal in the show! ❤ Love your theory on Rio being a witch and channeling the powers of Death, it makes sense!
Hey Tay! It's Aaron! It's been a while, how you livin homie?! I hope you're doing well! So, big questions: What’s going on with Spidey 4? Sony wanted it to be Multiversal, and Marvel wanted it to be street level. Now with Doomsday in the mix, is it both? Will we see a little bit of Venom & Null? Do you think Wanda or Loki will replace the Molecule Man role in the comics in the MCU? I know you have speculated on both, just curious on your thoughts and if they have changed. Any idea if or when the MCU is gonna announce other big projects like Shang Chi 2, Doctor Strange 3, Thor 5, and Black Panther 3? Those are huge characters and I doubt Marvel would not want to make those movies, no? I wonder which of them would be Battleworld movies, or some of them for after Secret Wars...thoughts? Thanks Tay!
Leaks of Funko Pop leaks have been used by Marvel Studios to provide misinformation before. There was a Funko Pop leak of Mephisto during the initial WandaVision series She's not playing Death
I love the episode the costumes and the special effects inspired by Deadites I love the show and characters in it. SPOILERS I am sad that Alice died, she was a cool character, and she just got ride off her family curse it's so SAD AND SHE DIED SAVING AGATHA like a good protection with :/ on a more positive note Rio is having so much fun xD and I am so sad about that Sharon tease from Agatha that was a low blow Miss Harkness 😦 also it looks like Teen/Pet / Billy put that sigil on himself to get to Agatha ? At last, that how it seems to me . Also the whole making the broom seems really queer coded and Agatha's mother made me think about alt right parents wishing dead on their Queer children
My only complaint Is there isnt any masculine energy in this show. I dont wanna say it seems to be made for a certain demographic of people.. but it is lol (not being ignorant just honest) Its hard for Me to relate to any of those characters lol but i love the feeling of deeper evil behind it all.
Interesting you say “I’ve been speculating” as if it were your theory Mephisto would be joining the MCU. Try “everybody in the community has been speculating” and give New Rockstars the credit they deserve.
Alright I know some of you wanted me to do an Agatha video, and this was actually a fun vid to make so I'm glad you guys were on me to do this one. So I hope you like it!
And THANKS for the THANKS to @GatorCris @JKOversion1 and @Dave01981
I... liked the Ballad of the Witches' Road
That song her Coven sang together was fantastic!
@@tomgebarowski8156 what about Deez?
@@JEMurlyou’re so hilarious. I’m laughing so hard right now.
Comic book stories are always filled with dilemmas but we will see what happens at the end.
Finally catching up on your last 3 videos, post-Agatha. Glad to see you hit 100k officially! Congrats Tay!
I really love that idea of making Death this higher cosmic title for a witch to possess, it’s a bit different but it feels simple and streamlined enough for people following to understand. While also not being too disimilar to Death’s recent depictions of inhabiting a person to experience what life is like to really grasp the meaning of her power
Aubrey Plaza and Mephisto going up against Wong, Blade, Werewolf by Night, Elsa Bloodstone, Man-Thing, Moon Knight, and Ghost Rider would go hard!!!
I would love seeing that happen in MCU...
I’d love to see her go up against Wanda.
I’ve heard some rumors that Sasha Baron Cohen is being cast as Mephisto… I really hope they’re correct lol
hope he make it in the finale Agatha all along @@orishahar
Perhaps it's better if he isn't, as it's safer not to cast a Zionist. @@orishahar
25:06 Wiccan is not a separate being from the Demiurge. He is himself the Demiurge, but just having willingly self incarnated in a human form.
He just doesn’t have access to his demiurgic powers.
Also, might be the actual creator of the Marvel verse, according to the writer.
I don't think we're going to get into Mephisto, Chthon, Gaia or any of that cosmic Marvel stuff in Agatha All Along, tbh. Death seems to be a natural antagonist to a couple of the witches--most notably Lilia who saw Death standing over her "Maestra" (per the credits) in her vision, and Alice whose family has been haunted by this curse. I think Lilia saw Death coming for her family and tried to warn them but either wasn't listened to or was demonized. She has used her gift to evade Death for probably like 600 years? And what is a curse but setting Death upon a person? Alice's mom tried to ward against it but she couldn't "protect you" (in the words used in Episode 3). I think at least one of them will have the journey of not fighting Death but accepting it, probably Lilia with her visions ("Try to save Agatha!" spoken to whom? Jen?)
The Young Avengers timeline in the comics also doesn't fit the MCU. There, Billy and Tommy were reincarnated as babies and raised by their families. With WandaVision having happened only three years prior, Billy must have been alive already at that time period ("A lot happened to be at 13"). The end credits reference a "near death" car crash in Eastview. Perhaps this is when Billy M's soul merges with Billy K's body? Question mark? The use of the term "near death" is interesting because it sort of implies Death has been cheated. She was supposed to Reap this soul but it escaped her. I think Rio will try to take him and who can stand against Death except Agatha whom Death is "not allowed" to kill for some reason? Is that why Lilia wants us to try to save Agatha?
I like your theory a lot.
well well well
I know that the show aired after you posted this, but no Lillia was not trying to say, "try to save Agatha." She was trying to say, "don't try to save Agatha". It was to Alice right before she died by Agatha's absorbing her magic.
This was an excellent watch! 👏🏾👏🏾. Thanks for the birthday wishes Tay. This episode was so coincidental as I was going to ask you who you thought Rio Vidal really was lol. Just shows you're always on it man 👊🏾👊🏾
Great video, I just found your channel doing some Marvel Comics research (Scarlet Witch lore mostly), and it’s great! I like your speculations about how the characters might evolve or reveal themselves and how developments in Marvel TV series are likely to set up future movies.
Personally I love Agatha All Along. I was a little skeptical before it started but I think Jac Schaeffer and co have really knocked it out of the park. I am just waiting for the 2-part finale tomorrow where hopefully all will be revealed.
I think the casting for the show is outstanding, especially Aubrey Plaza who’s one of my favorite actors-she definitely needed to be put in the MCU and who better to make her then Death herself 😂. Patti Lupone and Joe Locke have been revelations, and of Kathryn Hahn is A+. Keep up the good work, you’ve got a new subscriber 👍🏼
I have to agree, i was NOT looking for Agatha..but this show has been pretty good so far.
Rio Vidal is an amalgamation of 5 different characters into one character. Death is one of them. The others are Gaia, Emerald Warlock, Blackheart, and Morgan Le Fay.
What makes you think they like anal?
In the Tarot the Death card usually represents the painful end of something (like a relationship or job) but the beginning of a new one, like the expression, When the wooden door closes, the iron door opens. So this could be as big as reincarnation or just a difficult transition in life. I don't think Rio is the Cosmic Entity Death, but a powerful Green Earth Witch who is powerfully channeling Death.
I don't recall the Scarlet Witch ever being confirmed as a separate multiverse entity from Wanda Maximoff. The Prophecy simply existed to warn people of the possibility that Wanda Maximoff at her fullest potential could overtake the multiverse, and this version of Wanda Maximoff shall be known as the Scarlet Witch. Now in the comics the Scarlet Witch IS a line of witches all coming from Wanda's family but that's very different from being some cosmic force.
She is THE Green Witch.
Embodiment is likely a compromise the MCU has no choice but to make - unlike the ink and paper characters, actors aren’t evergreen immortals. Recasting someone is tricky too, but some sort of baton that can be passed would likely be the better solution.
I can’t be the only one who
Learned the ballad of the witches song😂❤
Agatha has been real good ngl though, I have no idea where it’s going and I think that’s why I like it.
Rio Vidal could be imbued with those cosmic powers like Gorr’s daughter who eventually was imbued with the powers of Love (the cosmic entity)
Just throwing this out there somewhere, even though there does appear to be some truth to the story of Agathas son, given the episode also showed her to be more than willing to try and cheat the witches road, is ot not possible Agatha didnt enter that deal completely in a strait forward manner?
Also, given that many wandavision fans (and the subsequent target Agatha audience) arent necessarily comic book people, or even broad scale MCU people ive been trying to think of how a Wiccan reveal would work and make sense without any of that context.
From a storytelling perspective, in order for that reveal to not feel like it comes out of nowhere, it needs a precedent. I think the hows and whys of how that reveal would work will be set up in the stort of what really happened with Nicholas.
Maybe Rio is an Avatar of Death. Other cosmic beings have Avatars like Galactus' avatar is the silver surfer. But also beings like Mistress Love and Master Hate have been known to have Avatars as well.
Been waiting for this one🙌🏼keep up the work Tay
Thanks dude, hope you like it!
Missed opportunity not making Aubrey Blackheart... All the black heart references.
- Mephisto is a Big Bad in the next saga, right?
- Would the universe rewrite include New Salem? You mentioned it
- I'm still waiting for Nightmare to impact after Doctor Strange 2
Agatha might be taking Cynthia Von Doom’s place in the MCU. They never mentioned Scratch’s name. I think it’s the real Doom that she traded for.
People are saying that Teen could be Billy and Nicholas at the same time so why Rio can't be both Green Witch and Death. That how it works, right theory fans? 😏
Actually it would be easy for Death to be the first green witch. Death and decay is a part of the cycle of life. Everything needs something else to die in order to live.
Always good to see a video from you Tay!!😊📺🎬👏🏾👏🏾🕺🏽🎃💜💚🐲
Another hit, Tay!
Thanks dude
TV Show Idea... Agents of Mephisto
Dude!! Love all ur videos!
Ur work is awesome and my god u should have well over 100k subscribers!! #100k for kinda culty
She can also be the Avatar of Death, like Moon Knight or Black Panther.
Allegedly Marvel Studios wants blade to be the villain of the Midnight Sons movie. It’s not Mephisto they’re saving him for later.
Hopefully they do a blood hunt adaptation xD
If true Werewolf by Night definitely would be in midnight sons team since werewolves and vampires have history
@@DredgensVein Dracula is the villain of Blade. You already know what the Blood Hunt is about. They want Dracula to train him and he becomes OP. I also heard Scarlet Witch will be on the team. She’s the only one powerful enough to take him out.
I really hope they don’t go that route. Blade isn’t meant to be an antagonist. They should just make the villain Lillith.
Salem 7 seems like they are someones attack dogs in the show.
that midnight sons roster with a good build up would put Marvel back on top...edit "if done correctly of course"
Ooooooo fun thanks for the video
these toy company's man. every time a new series or shows come out and it's a race between lego and funko as to who's gonna do the big oopsie we didn't mean to do that spoiler.
Is it not allowed because witches aren’t usually immortal? Imagining she made a deal with either death herself or a demon to be immortal.
Does anybody else remember when IMdB had majority of the Young Avengers casted pre Johnathan Majors firing?
Like the love interest to Billy/ Wiccan was casted as Hulkling and I fondly remember that actors face on IMdB being listed as Hulkling 🤔😑
Chat about probley my most favourite character let's goooo !!!🎉
Thanks!
Taking Moonknight into consideration. My bet is that Wanda is Chthon’s avatar. Rio is death’s avatar.
Rio Vidal is river of life.... Blood
Why can't Wiccan be the green witch in Agatha's coven and still become demiurge later?
that's the fun part, he can
It is interesting if Rio Vidal is Death, especially with her literal name meaning, you would think she's more aligned with being related to Gaea.
Can't wait for the whole reveal in the show! ❤ Love your theory on Rio being a witch and channeling the powers of Death, it makes sense!
Hey Tay! It's Aaron! It's been a while, how you livin homie?! I hope you're doing well! So, big questions:
What’s going on with Spidey 4? Sony wanted it to be Multiversal, and Marvel wanted it to be street level. Now with Doomsday in the mix, is it both? Will we see a little bit of Venom & Null?
Do you think Wanda or Loki will replace the Molecule Man role in the comics in the MCU? I know you have speculated on both, just curious on your thoughts and if they have changed.
Any idea if or when the MCU is gonna announce other big projects like Shang Chi 2, Doctor Strange 3, Thor 5, and Black Panther 3? Those are huge characters and I doubt Marvel would not want to make those movies, no? I wonder which of them would be Battleworld movies, or some of them for after Secret Wars...thoughts?
Thanks Tay!
Thanks Aaron - much appreciated sir!
I think you need better title cards . Ones that match cosmic wonder and everything always
Leaks of Funko Pop leaks have been used by Marvel Studios to provide misinformation before. There was a Funko Pop leak of Mephisto during the initial WandaVision series She's not playing Death
I've never heard of a Mephisto Funko Pop for WandaVision.
She is playing death
What if Rio’s wish when at the end of the Witches Road is to become death?
Man your videos is the shit bro👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I cant die before ghost rider enters the mcu not leaving my house
Danny Ketch should have Blue flames
Who more powerful, Demiurge or Franklin Richards?
Blackheart vibes...
Birthday video 📹/ I agree with you
I love the episode the costumes and the special effects inspired by Deadites I love the show and characters in it.
SPOILERS
I am sad that Alice died, she was a cool character, and she just got ride off her family curse it's so SAD AND SHE DIED SAVING AGATHA like a good protection with :/ on a more positive note Rio is having so much fun xD and I am so sad about that Sharon tease from Agatha that was a low blow Miss Harkness 😦 also it looks like Teen/Pet / Billy put that sigil on himself to get to Agatha ? At last, that how it seems to me . Also the whole making the broom seems really queer coded and Agatha's mother made me think about alt right parents wishing dead on their Queer children
I think the main baddie was Agatha all along...
Why are they putting supernatural villians in iron heart!? thats silly...why would Mephisto be worried about tech? lol
Couldn’t agree more
nature goes through cycles..life and death
Yoho lets goo
Wtf happened to teen in the thumbnail 😭
Is anyone thinking that Agatha killed the Asian girl mom?
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My only complaint Is there isnt any masculine energy in this show. I dont wanna say it seems to be made for a certain demographic of people.. but it is lol (not being ignorant just honest)
Its hard for Me to relate to any of those characters lol but i love the feeling of deeper evil behind it all.
So you’re saying that because it’s women, you can’t see what Marvel is doing?
Scust on your intimidated manhood
What is masculine energy?
Expecting masculine "energy" in the show is like comparing it to Barbie wanting masculinity or Oppenheimer wanting feminity 🙂
Check out the comic daddy
Interesting you say “I’ve been speculating” as if it were your theory Mephisto would be joining the MCU. Try “everybody in the community has been speculating” and give New Rockstars the credit they deserve.
God...... iron heart before so many classic charcaters is a trajesty😂😂😂
Trajesty?
Is that when something is a combination of being both tragic and a travesty 😂
Fake
It's not been as GAY as I thought, and ep 3 was pretty good.
Only “men” with fragile masculinity get discouraged easily and judge the series without watching a single episode. 🤡
Even if it was "gay", who cares? Not every show has to center around straight characters.
@steven_r33d yes it does!! Because normal humans of value are straight.
@@MAGAWillSaveTheWorldyeesh, you don't get out of your parents basement much, do you?
Seeing as that’s coming from the guy who thinks eternals are gay that’s pretty good lmao 💀
Merging characters is so lame and lazy thing to do...
The show sucks
I agree
I disagree but respect your opinion.
your entire life sucks if you're hatin on the supernatural side of the mcu!
@@zilla2006able i disagree because agatha all along is crucially important for the supernatural side of the mcu!
@@Aprilthedark well I don't respect his "opinion" because it is not an opinion. He did not give a single argument.
Thanks!
Thanks!