I feel like the biggest issue with the gun is that we all know the lone wolf and closing time perks will likely get adjusted in the future but the threat detector opening shot combo likely won't.
At the very least you can put perp motion and closing time as a fallback option on this shotty if it does get nerfed, I'm expecting the handling to get nerfed on closing time and even if perp isn't as good as threat it'll still be there to boost any handling that is nerfed from closing time (this is coming from the perspective of a newish PvP player who doesn't have good energy precision shotties and is also lazy to farm a matador or get the patterns for prophet lmao)
I still have yet to use a new precision frame with the new perks. I’m stuck on my fractethyst or my retold tale for energy. Need to try and get this one if it’s a seasonal weapon
Lone wolf has become one of my favorite perks that I didn’t think I’d care for but on braytech weeewolf and some pulses with it, it basicly gives you snapshot and a good 22ish extra aim assist which is a big deal especially on something like a auto rifle where your shooting a lot of bullets. I hope it doesn’t get nerfed.
I’ve switched hard from precision back to lightweight frames. As a titan main, I put way more value on the mobility and the follow up knockout melee to get me that sweet sweet diamond lance
How much worse can they make them😂. You have shotguns with 100, in every stat and they still don't kill at max range depending on wether the server likes you or not. Meanwhile a 2/5 fusion kills at 18m with ease.
I just got the comp shotgun with corkscrew accurized threat detector opening shot and the greatly increase handling speed attachment thingy so after I equip the plus 6 handling mod I have 80 handling 84 range then add in opening shot bam 100 range, add in the threat detector handling goes to 100. Very good shotgun but I feel like it’s too bulky looking personally but gets the job done. They have spoiled us with shotguns and I feel like they gonna hit us with a nerf because shotguns are one shotting people easily again like it was many seasons back then they nerfed them into the ground for a while
Prophet being craftable alone makes it worth at least something (spoken as someone who killed that stupid fucking ogre in GoA hundreds of times and never got an even remotely passable Matador). This thing won't be craftable until next season and, let's be honest, they're going to nerf Lone Wolf and/or Closing Time by then.
I swear he seems to always complain about every shotgun beyond his old favorite,the only reason ones with same perks and nearly identical aim assist and range is different is ether a hes just unsude to the model and isn’t quite as good aiming with it,or b it feels like less cause he has thousand of experience of the ahotgun one shooting at full health with the old one and usually only has a few since its new.
Deadlock rolls Lone Wolf+Opening Shot and neither prophet or this shotty rolls that, And that is the "best" roll for p-frames. If we got an aggressive with Lone/ closing that would be better use of all that handling Lone+closing is way over handling cap and does not double up on aim assist
I think pellet shotguns are just extremely inconsistent these days, I switched over to slug shotguns… got a Lone Wolf/Closing Legato and it’s pretty cracked, Inquisitor is cracked too
i have a gannora's axe with Threat/Snap and 97 range that i got like 3500 crucible kills on. If you hit your headshots(no accuracy perks) it is a beast at like 10m
I’ve always liked aggressives because I know they are reliable to one shot however all the insane stats on precisions with range handling and accuracy it’s hard to use other types. However the latest edition of riiswalker can be enhanced and slapped on a plus 6 range mod so I might dust off my surplus opening shot because with enhancing and the stat mods it’s getting easier to push to max range or handling
I love you saywallahbruh but these videos would be a lot better if you threw in some 6s gameplay every once in a while. it gets a little boring seeing you play the same guys on the same maps in the same private matches every video.
Shotguns used to consistently 1 tap inside a certain range. Ever since the pellet spread changes they’ve become worse. Idk if it’s actually the spread or if it’s a bug kinda thing that happened with that change. But I hate shotguns now ngl they’re ass
Lol you only need to play 5 times if you have horrible rng ...there is the red boarder cypher thing ..be smart and stop moaning to moan... U can spend the entire season playing this activity 😂
@kenzilbaptiste2519 So... waste 5 deepsite harmonizers and a lot of time... Or just spend that time getting the seasonal shotgun, and not need to spend the harmonizers at all. I don't understand your point. Equally good guns, and one is drastically easier to get, doesn't cost harmonizers, and you can grind for decent loot while you do so, as the new prison of elders gives a fairly generous amounts of stuff. Or waste your time playing the same boring raid encounters over and over.
@@brandondennis7527 you don't need harmonisers at all. If you do the quest every week and run the raid once every week, wich takes 30mins with a mediocre group, you get the shotgun in worst case 5 weeks. If you get lucky and get a redborder from the second encounter that speeds this up. You can also farm the checkpoint in the weeks the raid is in rotator ( wich is last week and will be again in a month, but if you start now with 1 raid run every week, by the time it's back in rotator you will already be able to craft the shotty). If you don't like the raid and rather farm the challenge of elders and pray to rng to get this shotty, you do you. But don't act like you need to spend an ungodly amount of time in garden and spend all your hamonisers to be able to craft the shotty when it takes 30 mins a week and 0 harmonisers. And when lone wolf and closingtime get nerfed, you can still use prophet and change the perks to opening shot ( with threath dedector, since it doesn't have lone wolf), while you be stuck with a shotty that you farmed ages for and is now neutered.
@@brandondennis7527I got it in like an hour 💀. And your acting like it ain’t gonna take you a whole week of grinding to get a 4/5 at best doing the same activity “over and over” 😂
@@brandondennis7527Dude what else are you gonna use harmonizers for? You get like 8 a season I had 16 and the seasonal shit ain’t even craftable…. Your coping hard 😂
How do you know when they are on your left or right when there isn’t even a highlight on your radar, or your radar isn’t even there? I saw that multiple times
1. Make sure super isn't charged 2. Sprint, Slide, then press the jump and super inputs in quick succession 3. Double tap jump after for a boost of momentum from your glide, OR activate glide and do an icarus dash. 4. You can do this on stasis warlock too if you're into that. Bonus tip: if you're jumping forward and turn your character in the air, you can snap skate as soon as you land to instantly change direction without losing your speed to break someone's ankles
@riothegod1831 do you have it crafted? If you don't then don't talk. I have it and i tell you that its the most consistent shoty in the game.(After conditional).
Nope Slide, super, jump. Simple as that tho you have to get the timing right. Works as well with the stasis melee too, tho not as good since you don't have icarus dash to combo the momentum in.
I have my super bound to Z and snap skate 24/7 very easily. The window is much more forgiving than people think, I would suggest searching a tutorial if you are interested :]
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I'm actually thinking of moving from ps5 to pc. Just tight on money
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Compass rose better and your shotgun don't have enough range
I feel like the biggest issue with the gun is that we all know the lone wolf and closing time perks will likely get adjusted in the future but the threat detector opening shot combo likely won't.
At the very least you can put perp motion and closing time as a fallback option on this shotty if it does get nerfed, I'm expecting the handling to get nerfed on closing time and even if perp isn't as good as threat it'll still be there to boost any handling that is nerfed from closing time (this is coming from the perspective of a newish PvP player who doesn't have good energy precision shotties and is also lazy to farm a matador or get the patterns for prophet lmao)
But like, why? Give us more reasons to challenge SOLO 1v1!
Tho ig 22aa is quite cracked, especially on a single perk
Ok and? Just use whats good for now, and when it next gets adjusted just move on to whatever becomes good then.
It will 100% be nerfed.
say wallah bruh bills must be high smh (i got you bbg)
It's the shotgun from forsaken. Dusk something it was red and kinetic, and you had to farm for it on the EDZ in a lost sector.
Dusk rock blues?
Yup! Dust Rock Blues. Sad times you can't even put the old Fallen Ornament on it at least haha.
Yeah it’s a shame. They did it for the deep taken weapons idk why they can’t do it for these
I still have yet to use a new precision frame with the new perks. I’m stuck on my fractethyst or my retold tale for energy. Need to try and get this one if it’s a seasonal weapon
Frac is still a monster. I still main it since it rolls QuickDraw.
just get lucky and have a good deadlock drop?
@@DaddyGreer65 slickdraw closing time deadlock way better😂
@@daythemilfslayer Probably, but my rng with that gun has been terrible lol.
“Look at the 1 taps!” Gets him half then shotguns him.
Nice to see them bring back the dusk rock blues model That was my favorite shotgun for the longest time.
close enough, wellcome back Dust rock blues
same model and frame as DRB. its good to be back.
Lone wolf has become one of my favorite perks that I didn’t think I’d care for but on braytech weeewolf and some pulses with it, it basicly gives you snapshot and a good 22ish extra aim assist which is a big deal especially on something like a auto rifle where your shooting a lot of bullets. I hope it doesn’t get nerfed.
“I’m GoNnA ChAL🤓”
He say that sh*t one more time, I’m unsubscribing 😂😂😂
OMG SAME WALLAH 5:05 me anytime I RARELY am not on my hunter I die so often like that trying to jump 😂😂
this shotgun with discord + no backup plans goes nutty in PvE
I’ve switched hard from precision back to lightweight frames. As a titan main, I put way more value on the mobility and the follow up knockout melee to get me that sweet sweet diamond lance
mobility doesn’t make you run faster, you’re using a worse shotgun for no reason
this is weird 3 meta shotguns in 1 season something is coming and is bad
How much worse can they make them😂.
You have shotguns with 100, in every stat and they still don't kill at max range depending on wether the server likes you or not.
Meanwhile a 2/5 fusion kills at 18m with ease.
I just got the comp shotgun with corkscrew accurized threat detector opening shot and the greatly increase handling speed attachment thingy so after I equip the plus 6 handling mod I have 80 handling 84 range then add in opening shot bam 100 range, add in the threat detector handling goes to 100. Very good shotgun but I feel like it’s too bulky looking personally but gets the job done. They have spoiled us with shotguns and I feel like they gonna hit us with a nerf because shotguns are one shotting people easily again like it was many seasons back then they nerfed them into the ground for a while
@@JH-vb1wonone of what you said is right lol shotguns suck and have for a while
Releasing all the shottys b4 ww3
Wallah please why can’t I snap skate on console anymore and how do u do it still
have been waiting for this video all day 😭
Looks like dust rock
First thing I say just a few spikes and new name
They mentioned it has the same model in the dev stream, its supposed to feel like dust rock.
"looks insanely good" all black shotty that looks like its an incomplete cosplay prop with newspaper on it XD
3:45 seems sus tossing the thorn off like that
That's weird prophet is really consistent for me. Good vid tho
The drop for this gun is bug right?
Is this model dust rock blues?
Yes
Idk why, but I still find myself swapping back to my Matador open threat role despite having these god rolls.
My boy Var
Was lucky to get it 1st run of the new seasonal event
@Varlum26 it's me, forklift
I swear I got that roll literally yesterday when the act launched
"I was getting teamed up the ass..."
-Wallah
Prophet being craftable alone makes it worth at least something (spoken as someone who killed that stupid fucking ogre in GoA hundreds of times and never got an even remotely passable Matador). This thing won't be craftable until next season and, let's be honest, they're going to nerf Lone Wolf and/or Closing Time by then.
Yea idk if that was 😂effected by weight gate but I swear opening shit does not exist in matador for me. I got a 4/5 but it’s killing wind smh
I just like agressives way more for me they oneshoting more consistently
For SayWienerBruh's bills gotta help a brother out
I swear he seems to always complain about every shotgun beyond his old favorite,the only reason ones with same perks and nearly identical aim assist and range is different is ether a hes just unsude to the model and isn’t quite as good aiming with it,or b it feels like less cause he has thousand of experience of the ahotgun one shooting at full health with the old one and usually only has a few since its new.
I can’t tell but did they keep the sound from dust rock blues? That’s all I care about that shotgun was my baby I farmed for hours for the 5 outta 5
Where do you get this to drop from?
Contest of elder
@ thanks I did this for multiple rounds and not a single one dropped lol
Broo how did you fall off the map at the beginning😂
It’s not one tap if you use thorn then shotty lol jus sayin lol
3:20 Bro is straight tripping with his claim of one tap
Dude at 10hp…..LOOK AT THE ONE TAP
and then wonders why its not 1 tapping in the next game when he isnt priming them with a torn headshot or two first
Deadlock rolls Lone Wolf+Opening Shot and neither prophet or this shotty rolls that, And that is the "best" roll for p-frames. If we got an aggressive with Lone/ closing that would be better use of all that handling
Lone+closing is way over handling cap and does not double up on aim assist
Dusk rock blues back??
bro who is this dinky guy he's so good
My brother wallah!💙
I'd love to continue grinding for this shotty, too bad Bungie said fuck y'all our servers are trash lmao
I think pellet shotguns are just extremely inconsistent these days, I switched over to slug shotguns… got a Lone Wolf/Closing Legato and it’s pretty cracked, Inquisitor is cracked too
Dude I just got a closing time to the pain role on my legato with max handling and it feels AMAZING
i have a gannora's axe with Threat/Snap and 97 range that i got like 3500 crucible kills on. If you hit your headshots(no accuracy perks) it is a beast at like 10m
Hate to gun model for prophet of doom .😮
Don't people know lone wolf is terrible with a team or anyone nearby? This why the match type is rumble lol.
the new party crasher now in d2
and it was void shotgun in d1
I got my god roll after just 2 runs of Contest of Elders :)
Crazy how lightweights and aggressives are just left jn the dust.
lightweights are getting buffed
I’ve always liked aggressives because I know they are reliable to one shot however all the insane stats on precisions with range handling and accuracy it’s hard to use other types. However the latest edition of riiswalker can be enhanced and slapped on a plus 6 range mod so I might dust off my surplus opening shot because with enhancing and the stat mods it’s getting easier to push to max range or handling
You saved my life 2 days ago...
I’m one week away from the GoS shotgun
I’M NOT FARMING FOR ANOTHER GUN
Varkis says kill faaaaaster guardian.
Sooo its better than Matador or not
yes
It looks a bit like Dust Rock Blues
I love you saywallahbruh but these videos would be a lot better if you threw in some 6s gameplay every once in a while. it gets a little boring seeing you play the same guys on the same maps in the same private matches every video.
Wouldn't boosting the account's kd make the matches harder for the owner? I guess that's the thing
@@PuxaPenass a few games of 6s hardly effects anything; he'd have to play extensively to make it like that
Shotguns used to consistently 1 tap inside a certain range. Ever since the pellet spread changes they’ve become worse. Idk if it’s actually the spread or if it’s a bug kinda thing that happened with that change. But I hate shotguns now ngl they’re ass
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I love you wallah ❤
Ya beta believe it ( Joe Pesci voice)😂
Yeah meh someday and prophet of doom are craftable though just never need another shotty
Bro someday is SO inconsistent tho
what is this snapping immediately when jumping? is this with a macro?
I’m able to do it regularly on roller
@@SavvyMon4 how
@@daythemilfslayer having a SCUF controller definitely helps
You are “one tapping” because you are priming them with thorn.
I was getting really inconsistent results with it earlier today, can’t say I really enjoy it over other options in the same slot
Im looking forward to the day bungie removes snap skating
Same... that shit is so dumb, plus everyone just uses a macro to do it...
Where "yip"? 😢
I like men
Than you probably liked diddy.
@@soulx-pb5lkhe was my first victim
@@BL1TZ2475 I did you dirty like Stewie at the park bathroom.
"Why would I use this over prophet?" 'cause one requires you to play garden an annoying number of times.
Lol you only need to play 5 times if you have horrible rng ...there is the red boarder cypher thing ..be smart and stop moaning to moan...
U can spend the entire season playing this activity 😂
@kenzilbaptiste2519 So... waste 5 deepsite harmonizers and a lot of time... Or just spend that time getting the seasonal shotgun, and not need to spend the harmonizers at all. I don't understand your point.
Equally good guns, and one is drastically easier to get, doesn't cost harmonizers, and you can grind for decent loot while you do so, as the new prison of elders gives a fairly generous amounts of stuff.
Or waste your time playing the same boring raid encounters over and over.
@@brandondennis7527 you don't need harmonisers at all. If you do the quest every week and run the raid once every week, wich takes 30mins with a mediocre group, you get the shotgun in worst case 5 weeks. If you get lucky and get a redborder from the second encounter that speeds this up. You can also farm the checkpoint in the weeks the raid is in rotator ( wich is last week and will be again in a month, but if you start now with 1 raid run every week, by the time it's back in rotator you will already be able to craft the shotty). If you don't like the raid and rather farm the challenge of elders and pray to rng to get this shotty, you do you. But don't act like you need to spend an ungodly amount of time in garden and spend all your hamonisers to be able to craft the shotty when it takes 30 mins a week and 0 harmonisers. And when lone wolf and closingtime get nerfed, you can still use prophet and change the perks to opening shot ( with threath dedector, since it doesn't have lone wolf), while you be stuck with a shotty that you farmed ages for and is now neutered.
@@brandondennis7527I got it in like an hour 💀. And your acting like it ain’t gonna take you a whole week of grinding to get a 4/5 at best doing the same activity “over and over” 😂
@@brandondennis7527Dude what else are you gonna use harmonizers for? You get like 8 a season I had 16 and the seasonal shit ain’t even craftable…. Your coping hard 😂
I got banned on discord and just made another discord account. Stupid bots can’t do anything since they falsely accused me
Is your fov different? This video just looks different, kinda off somehow.
Gameplay looks sped up am i tweakin
What do u consider 1 tap? I think ur confused.
2:34 Electro slide warlocks have replaced titans for ape status
Shameless, waited for someone else to get it. i'm joking xd
How do you know when they are on your left or right when there isn’t even a highlight on your radar, or your radar isn’t even there? I saw that multiple times
Dog prophet has more handling stop cappin! Threat and closing both have scalars like come on
day 1 of asking foir an ergo sum vid
“See the one tap?”…after hitting the guy once or twice with the HC lol. Don’t think that’s what one tap means
You’re not crazy, matador is more consistent than prophet
Day 653 of asking for drip explination
iloveu
Can you post a snapskating guide?
1. Make sure super isn't charged
2. Sprint, Slide, then press the jump and super inputs in quick succession
3. Double tap jump after for a boost of momentum from your glide, OR activate glide and do an icarus dash.
4. You can do this on stasis warlock too if you're into that.
Bonus tip: if you're jumping forward and turn your character in the air, you can snap skate as soon as you land to instantly change direction without losing your speed to break someone's ankles
Godbless
Slide shot is better
Call me crazy, but I much prefer compass rose with slick draw and barrel constrictor. (I use barrel constrictor because it already has like 98 range)
Thats CRAZY ngl😭
LAMAW
"Better than prophet of doom" This is a joke right?
Ether you are a fool or you lying.
Prophet is trash and inconsistent every sweat knows this
@riothegod1831 do you have it crafted?
If you don't then don't talk.
I have it and i tell you that its the most consistent shoty in the game.(After conditional).
@AgiosFM I have it crafted, conditional, g roll deadlock and this new one. Conditional > deadlock > this > prophet.
warlock gameplay ty my leige \[T]/
The self commentating 😂
taking first so no real first comments
Clean ass shotgun
I'm guessing snap skating is a macro? Never seen it before.
Nope
Slide, super, jump. Simple as that tho you have to get the timing right.
Works as well with the stasis melee too, tho not as good since you don't have icarus dash to combo the momentum in.
I have my super bound to Z and snap skate 24/7 very easily. The window is much more forgiving than people think, I would suggest searching a tutorial if you are interested :]
its like 3 inputs bro
lemme eyp
what the heck is snap-skating lol, never heard of it till now
It's a trick with incinerator snap where you animation cancel while icky dashing to bend time and space.
Lone wolf isn’t needed
Closing time>>>>Lone Wolf
Bro was fluent in stuttering
Rumble. Booooooo I'm out
Bro PLEASE use icarus dash with your snap skate like a normal person 😭❌
whats it with the weapon swapping. its hella distracting
Trying to be a try hard too much
Opening better
I will faithfully always watch wallah but I will never play destiny 2 again.
This is why I don't farm dungeons for god rolls, just wait a month or so and they'll be power crept.