39:10 This is what so impresses me about these Irish : they are true horse people, not just racing breeders, trainers and jockeys. For example, Joseph O'Brien has been a world-class eventer, jockey and trainer, all before the age of 24. The Pony Club culture clearly is crucial in nurturing and producing great horse people.
What friend, the lovely Irish folk are true horse people and not just Horse Breeders, Trainer's & jockeys ? Wow so why are the lovely gentlemen Mr Magnier, Mr Tabor etc spending millions buying the best breed of horses ? Let me tell you, because they hope they go on to be top class horses on the race course & win classic's then send them to stud to make all the millions their spending back plus change with horses like you're Galileo's breeding with top class broodmares to hopefully sire their next Galileo, High Chaparral, Australia, Camelot, Magical, Found, Mother Earth or hopefully for these lovely people Frankel, Kingman, Nathaniel, Enable, Saddlers Wells, Northern Dancer etc 👍 You're welcome friend.
I wouldn't say Dr O'brien' achieved greatness the hard way friend, I mean having Mr Sangster, Mr Magnier backing you I wouldn't say was the hard way. But he was a very unique trainer, done it in NH winning 3 Grand Nationals then started working with Mr Magnier & Mr Sangster & then switched to the flat & done some UNBELIEVABLE things, building an empire & winning absolutely everything that could be won. He was the Godfather of flat racing 🙏 R.I.P Dr O'brien GENIUS🙏
I spent most of 1968 in Ireland messing with horses. Went to the National Stud at Kindare to check it out, cool. Hunted with the Galway Blazers including John Huston, he was quite drunk and swaying side to side on his horse. Met lots of relatives. One of them, Harry Dimond had his house near Belfast bombed by the IRA. They mistook him for the Harry Dimond who was an MP. It was a magical time. Stopped riding after a Christopher Reeves type jumping accident. I was lucky, no paralysis, just live with a lot of neck and back pain.
Very powerful/beautiful creatures.Sensational just to see them run with the wind across the green field strewned with wild flowers on sunny spring days.Some people even tried to capture them on paintings...;)))))
Johnny Roe told a friend of mine that the reason the Irish thoroughbred is a world-beater is the limestone grass in the middle of Ireland where all the yearlings are raised. Great for a strong conformation.
That is true with also a very high calcium content in the water and mild weather giving the grass a longer growing season! As for a "strong" conformation, Im not sure what you mean, A horse needs good bone e.g. flat dense bone but confirmation is the angles and connection of the bones as well as the muscles assembly which they are normally born with but not amount or type of feeding will alter it!
Great film. Thank You. I thought it was interesting when the line of Native Dancer was mentioned they showed Claiborne Farm in Ky. That was the birthplace of another very famous race horse, a little race horse that was raised in Willits, Ca. named Seabiscuit. Seabiscuit was best known for beating the best known big money race horse in a challenge race in the 20's or 30's named Man of War. The "little horse that could" went on to be one of the greatest race horse's of all time.
Well done doc. enjoyed it. I'm a writer and film producer doing a film in the US in 2015 called The Reins Maker!!!! About a young girl who grows up to become a great jockey! Thanks for the info!
best of luck with it ! horses are fascinating animals.. and all respect to jockeys they have a great understanding of both the sport and animals which at times goes undeservedly unnoticed. ill give the film a watch when its out :)
M.T. Arnold most success in your film endeavor...This is a great sport.. Underestimated in my opinion only because most don't understand the intricacies involved in it. Good luck..I'll be looking out for your production.🏇🏇🏇
I enjoyed what I had time to watch!! Thanks so much for sharing to us, ALL!! I will keep watching til I have time to view the whole video.. ;) I'm always grateful for the ones who see something good' and than share to the rest of us!! Sending ya much love & "positive energy" for an AWESOME NEW YEAR!!! Most Sincerely, Rebecca Hill/Alais~ Grandma B. ~ ;)
That's interesting, ive read that horse rearing was introduced to Ireland by the Normans, and that horse-racing and other mounted sports weren't known until the 17th century under English rule.
fantastic Documentary...reinvigorated my love for this sport...we need more positive documentaries like this master piece ;) especially how 'Australia' (the horse) was breed for mental toughness, above all. his father's (Galileo) influence in all his horses he leaves on the ground...never thought of this part...passing on the mental toughness genetically! (36:00)
did they mention the aga khan? they were at the forefront of shuttling horses,to the horses peril early on.but to shuttle meant covering twice the mares making more money to buy a lot of northern dancer yearlings at the keeneland select summer sale.a ot is owed to northern dancer and the concept of shuttling.but they are the worlds greatest selfpromoters they have to be.
beautiful horse and a very hearth felt story guys,real nice. I think thats the first time I saw a replay of that race....also nice reporting on the up coming race's ...Thanks Guys
I'm thrilled to see that among Invincible Spirit's ancestors are Sir Ivor, son of Sir Gaylord out of the one and only Somethingroyal, dame of half brother Secretariat.
All horses are the one. Each deserving of a magnificent adventure and excersise . When you people finally understand it's not about winning but the process and journey. Winning is only part of a long steady and patient journey. Rewuirering other ventures funding the opperation. A sanctuary where dicepline grace and hard gradural work help the animal be it's best. Honoring that after it's retirement. Its not about you or betting or winnings. You will know this the day of judgement when we meet God in heaven.
That historian Williams is talking absolute bollocks when he said Aidan was the same stuff as Vincent. Aidan was handed Ballydoyle - and the bloodlines - but Vincent made Ballydoyle, and had to handpick each horse.
WHY, then, was Aidan given the office? By the owners. Have they been proved wrong, in their choice, decision, selection? Any successor to Vincent would have been "handed" Ballydoyle. What other scenario would it have been?
Here's a fact. 95% of all 2 year old winners trace in male line to the Darley Arabian. Almost NO stallions standing at stud do not trace in male line to the Darley.
Horses that are 8-12 years old are usually at the age where they are suitable for young riders/beginners, unlike a "green" 4 year old. A horse's bone structure is fully developed by the time they are 6, but 4 is the recommended age to start a horse.
Why was it necessary to repeatedly show a dead horse? The points made while showing that deceased horse could have been made with live horses or diagrams.
A Great Thoroughbred be bred in any county: Ireland or U.S.A. or Argentina or or Aus. or NZL or England or Italy (Nearco) or France or Canada ( "Northern Dancer "), OR GERMANY. Urban Sea (USA born and bred (by Miswaki, by Mr. Prospector), Urban Sea won Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe (1993) and is Dam (mother) of Galileo & SEA THE STARS. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_Sea bye, I have GOoD horses To Find.
They don’t use AI because thoroughbreds are already fairly inbred. The quarter horse breed has selected for a long list of genetic conditions because of allowing AIAnd embryo transfer. POS stallion impressive is the worst culprit. He was bred out the wazoo because of his freakish muscling which precluded athleticism and would have only been a plus for a meat animal. A lot of his inbred offspring are nutcases as well.
Ireland certainly is a beautiful country and it has been instrumental in helping develop the Thoroughbred. But the thoroughbred really is a very international. For example the six million dollar Chiquita has only one Irish ancestor. Most of her ancestry was from Great Britain, then the USA and one from Canada, France and Italy as well. With its speed, grace courage and beauty the thoroughbred traverses the globe and unites humanity with a shared interest.
Ross_AFC As I know very little about training horses and what does and does not make a trainer the best, I imagine you could be right about that. As to the horses, I go back to my original comment. If you are talking about the best thoroughbreds, some of them are from Ireland but their ancestry is English. All of the English thoroughbreds trace back to English and Middle Eastern bloodstock. The foundation stallions were the Darley Arabian, the Godolphin Arabian and the Byerly Turk. English thoroughbreds were purchased by North Americans, Europeans, South Africans, Irish, Australians and so on. By now, thoroughbred racing is found far and wide including Turkey, India, Argentina, Chile, Brazil, Hong Kong, Japan and many other countries.Some very fine breeding establishments are located in Ireland but there are comparable ones in most of the countries mentioned. The horses have been bred across national boundaries so much so that it is incorrect to claim they are Irish, Canadian, French, English, United Statesers, etc. Take the great sire Sadlers Wells. He was bred in the United States. At Coolmore in Ireland he has been a preeminate sire, but he is by Northern Dancer, Canadian bred, and out of Fairy Bridge, U S bred. In his second generation back he has another Canadian bred, and three U S bred. In this third generation back he has five from the USA, one from Italy , one from Great Britain and one from Argentina. In his fourth generation back he has seven from the USA, five from Great Britain, two from France, one from Italy and one from Argentina. In his fifth generation back he has fourteen from Great Britain, eleven from the USA, five from France, one from Argentina and one from Ireland. In all those generations he has only one from Ireland. So it is really inaccurate to say any thoroughbred horse is a particular country's achievement. There are some horse breeds that are only from one country for many, many years, such as the Icelandic Horse. I have heard of the Irish Hunter and the Connemara as Irish breeds. Are there any others?
Vernon France regardless of what you say.. fair enough most great irish horses have aribian bloodline mixed with british war horses or whatever.. after years and years through time the horses that have been trained and bred on irish soil and even raced.. are predominantly claimed irish ! its like anything.. for example there is only a certain distance you claim to be prop irish when its comes to irish-american heritage and after that your nearly 100 percent american.... thats the situation now when it comes to thoroughbred horses in ireland
Love horses, but I have no respect for the horse racing industry. Please tell us what happens to 90% of those thoroughbreds who don't make money after a few races. I can tell you.... Very good documentary, though.
Chris, is that worse than being run down by predators, hamstrung, or suffocated by a bite to the windpipe, sometimes having their guts eaten while they are still alive... the fate of pretty much all wild horses at some time in their lives? The cycle of life and death in Nature may look cruel to people of today. Is there a difference between eating a horse and a cow or steer? Or a chicken? In America, many horses are kept alive that cannot be ridden, due to soundness problems in the legs or spine,or temperament issues. Even with medications ,many of these horses are in near constant pain. If those horses were recycled or harvested, thousands of homes for retired TBs would be available. There are other creative ways that horses can be kept happy and fit and help pay their way, but it takes a mental shift on the part of humans who tend to want to keep them 'wrapped in cotton wool, so to speak.
They why are so many dangerous and mean stallions in the US either born and raised in Ireland or gone over for racing or breeding? What do they do to those horses?
Too bad these magnificent animals are treated like a machine. bred, trained, ran, and put in a box. It would be so much better if they were considered a flesh and blood ani!mal and be given time to just be a horse on a regular basis.. yes it takes money to pay for them but they are living, breathing and social creation.
Horses are put in a box for their safety. I agree that some turnout time on a regular basis is ideal, and some try to provide this while minimizing the likelihood that they will injure themselves. In America, many racehorses in training are given time in small roundpens where they can walk and trot around, sniff, look around, roll...'just be a horse'. All are raised on spacious pastures. Breeding stock typically has lots of time in paddocks and/or pastures to 'just be a horse'. Other horses often spend as much time in boxes, aka boxstalls, as racehorses do,with even less time to express their instinct to run, with even less exercize, and often higher levels of frustration and stress. Even those with access to doften don' t have enough room to trot,fewer have room to run- especially in regions where land prices are high. If ridden or given enough other exercize, this is no problem. In America,the number one killer of horses is colic- almost always caused by not enough exercize,with too much grain and frustration and/or not enough roughage frequent contributing factors. People think giving them lots of grain and letting them just loaf around most of the time is being kind, but it can kill them.
@@Jefferdaughter To be healthy a horse needs to be on the move all the time. Keep his gut moving. Horses need grass and the ability to browse. Stable fed horses on high protein diets are without a doubt far more likely to die from colic. So you are right. I love horses but let's face it the whole industry is the playground of billionaires. Oil-rich Arabs v Coolmore. plus all the hangers-on. Also, of course, the betting industry without which there would not be any form of racing. Also, some most unpleasant individuals are involved at the top. So the horses aside, who are so brave, noble and wonderful will always be the playthings of the mega-rich.
Poor ol Sea the Stars after all he has achieved shut in his horse prison, surely there is another way to keep horses than in square boxes with steel grills over the window!
Think my pony in my pocket won’t buy much at goffs, in fact it’ll hardly buy hay for a pony😊, still even though horse racing and breeding is elitist and only really for the rich at least us peasants can still enjoy watching these thoroughbreds run
Great Thoroughbred come from all over the world. We had the best sprinter bred in Australia, best stayer bred in Great Britain, best Middle Distance horse bred in France(Seabird for me, others can disagree), greatest sire (Canada). Oh and PETA FUCK OFF THIS PAGE.
The Irish trainer's don't have to reveal their secrets about how they always seem to end up with the best horses. It's not rocket science. I mean for instance:: Aiden can you tell us how you always have the best horses ? Well its down to luck & oh sorry a wee white lie, because I'm the trainer at Coolmore so I'm very lucky to have alot of great owners behind me i.e Mr Magnier, Mr Tabor & so im very fortunate to have such a great NO sorry fantastic bunch of billionaire's now probably so get the chance to have such alot of top class horses, roughly about 200-250 to help me win so many accolades 9 Epsom Derby's, about 13-14 1000 & 2000 English Guineas winners, about 11-12 Irish Derby's & about 15-16 Irish 1000 & 2000 Guineas winners & St Leger winners & 10 Ascot Gold Cups to go with about 350 other G1's to go with my 1,795 winners half of which are the listed winners i forgot to mention because I'm not even though I play the " I couldn't do it without all the people who work in the background " on camera its really all about FUCKING ME OK so don't FUCKING forget it.
The breed is called the "English Thoroughbred" because it was created in England during the 18th centrury by breeding three Arabian stallions with English mares. This is just a fact. Irish breeding really took off in th 1980's when the Irish government gave the industry huge tax breaks. It did this by cutting health and welfare spending.
Watching the constant growth of such a destructive "industry" as Horse and Dogg Racing, simply gives greater credibility to Socialist Planning, Industrialisation and full employment. At least 800 race horses are killed each year by vets and many more are slaughtered cheaply for sausage meat. Justified by "creating jobs". If this is the beat Capitalism can do for work creation, then how on earth can we justify putting down an alternative economic-sporting system which does not rely on or need this destruction?? Not to mention the millions of bankrupt punters.
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The Irish certainly are good horsemen worldwide but the very best horsemen ever known in the world history without a doubt are American horsemen in fact Irish horsemen came to the United States by the hundreds n the 1970s for farm manager trainee programs just to learn how to do it right!
If the horses are naturally so good, why do you keep beating them and tying their tongues back during races, and using harsh bits? Why are they killed after retirement? There is nothing natural about that.
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Most of the great stallions came from USA and canada
the guy who had the biggest influence on TB breeding during the last 100 years was the Italian Frederico Tessio, no Irish there. He also created the northern Dancer Bloodline. Never seen so many shitty riders as actually in ireland just jolly amateurs
39:10 This is what so impresses me about these Irish : they are true horse people, not just racing breeders, trainers and jockeys. For example, Joseph O'Brien has been a world-class eventer, jockey and trainer, all before the age of 24. The Pony Club culture clearly is crucial in nurturing and producing great horse people.
What friend, the lovely Irish folk are true horse people and not just Horse Breeders, Trainer's & jockeys ? Wow so why are the lovely gentlemen Mr Magnier, Mr Tabor etc spending millions buying the best breed of horses ? Let me tell you, because they hope they go on to be top class horses on the race course & win classic's then send them to stud to make all the millions their spending back plus change with horses like you're Galileo's breeding with top class broodmares to hopefully sire their next Galileo, High Chaparral, Australia, Camelot, Magical, Found, Mother Earth or hopefully for these lovely people Frankel, Kingman, Nathaniel, Enable, Saddlers Wells, Northern Dancer etc 👍 You're welcome friend.
Vincent was the man. He achieved greatness. The hard way.
I wouldn't say Dr O'brien' achieved greatness the hard way friend, I mean having Mr Sangster, Mr Magnier backing you I wouldn't say was the hard way. But he was a very unique trainer, done it in NH winning 3 Grand Nationals then started working with Mr Magnier & Mr Sangster & then switched to the flat & done some UNBELIEVABLE things, building an empire & winning absolutely everything that could be won. He was the Godfather of flat racing 🙏 R.I.P Dr O'brien GENIUS🙏
I spent most of 1968 in Ireland messing with horses. Went to the National Stud at Kindare to check it out, cool. Hunted with the Galway Blazers including John Huston, he was quite drunk and swaying side to side on his horse. Met lots of relatives. One of them, Harry Dimond had his house near Belfast bombed by the IRA. They mistook him for the Harry Dimond who was an MP. It was a magical time. Stopped riding after a Christopher Reeves type jumping accident. I was lucky, no paralysis, just live with a lot of neck and back pain.
Kathleen Rubenstein that is a marvelous story!!!!
My great uncle was often riding with Huston out by Clarenbridge … Paddy Burke.
So sorry to hear that friend, so unbelievably bad luck every way you look at it. Hope you're OK enough to get around & sorry about you're relative.🙏
I have always loved horses. Heard stories of Irish horses from my Grandfather.
Very powerful/beautiful creatures.Sensational just to see them run with the wind across the green field strewned with wild flowers on sunny spring days.Some people even tried to capture them on paintings...;)))))
SithSereyPheap1 well said..🏇
Johnny Roe told a friend of mine that the reason the Irish thoroughbred is a world-beater is the limestone grass in the middle of Ireland where all the yearlings are raised. Great for a strong conformation.
That is true with also a very high calcium content in the water and mild weather giving the grass a longer growing season! As for a "strong" conformation, Im not sure what you mean, A horse needs good bone e.g. flat dense bone but confirmation is the angles and connection of the bones as well as the muscles assembly which they are normally born with but not amount or type of feeding will alter it!
Nautilus1972
They make the same claim for Kentucky as well, there must be something in it.
I was working near coolmore in january on a roof .
The grass was growing great . Guy told me its CALCIUM heat in ground..
Great film. Thank You. I thought it was interesting when the line of Native Dancer was mentioned they showed Claiborne Farm in Ky. That was the birthplace of another very famous race horse, a little race horse that was raised in Willits, Ca. named Seabiscuit. Seabiscuit was best known for beating the best known big money race horse in a challenge race in the 20's or 30's named Man of War. The "little horse that could" went on to be one of the greatest race horse's of all time.
sorry for the goof on Northern Dancers name.
Seabiscuit beat War Admiral. Man of War's son.
But unfortunately a pretty mediocre stallion , perhaps because his owner refused to stand him anywhere but at his farm.
Well done doc. enjoyed it. I'm a writer and film producer doing a film in the US in 2015 called The Reins Maker!!!! About a young girl who grows up to become a great jockey! Thanks for the info!
best of luck with it ! horses are fascinating animals.. and all respect to jockeys they have a great understanding of both the sport and animals which at times goes undeservedly unnoticed. ill give the film a watch when its out :)
M.T. Arnold most success in your film endeavor...This is a great sport.. Underestimated in my opinion only because most don't understand the intricacies involved in it. Good luck..I'll be looking out for your production.🏇🏇🏇
I have just lost my Connemara of 22 years , irreplaceable, magical ....forever in my heart
I am so sorry for your loss. They live on in our hearts 💖🤗🐴
thoroughbred-money...what a pair. enjoyed this, beautiful horse!
Great documentary based on one of the greatest sports In the world.🏇🏇🏇
I love Arabic horses and I feel proud that throuhhbreds are result of Arabic horses.
Love from skardu Pakistan
I enjoyed what I had time to watch!! Thanks so much for sharing to us, ALL!! I will keep watching til I have time to view the whole video.. ;) I'm always grateful for the ones who see something good' and than share to the rest of us!! Sending ya much love & "positive energy" for an AWESOME NEW YEAR!!! Most Sincerely, Rebecca Hill/Alais~ Grandma B. ~ ;)
Still, no horse has even come close to Secretariat. He was truly a one of a kind horse. ❤
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Near college is the grandfather of all the greats
Excellent documentary thank you for sharing
i love thoroughbreds
Great watch thanks
What a great video!Really impressive.
This is why I am 1out of 4 Irish 🍀 and have thorobreds that I run all the time and love this vid
That's interesting, ive read that horse rearing was introduced to Ireland by the Normans, and that horse-racing and other mounted sports weren't known until the 17th century under English rule.
There are references to Horse Racing in Ireland in the Book of Leinster which dates from the 1160s
Perfect! Thanks!
fantastic Documentary...reinvigorated my love for this sport...we need more positive documentaries like this master piece ;)
especially how 'Australia' (the horse) was breed for mental toughness, above all. his father's (Galileo) influence in all his horses he leaves on the ground...never thought of this part...passing on the mental toughness genetically! (36:00)
Good history thanks
really good!
Love that an injection of a Canadian horses blood helped keep this tradition alive. Way to go Northern Dancer 🇨🇦
yes and it would not have been possible without the Italian who created the Northern Dancer bloodline
"Nearco (ITA)" but the best blood in his DNA was Great. and the Champion race horse "has to throw" to that Champion blood.
thanks for upload.
did they mention the aga khan? they were at the forefront of shuttling horses,to the horses peril early on.but to shuttle meant covering twice the mares making more money to buy a lot of northern dancer yearlings at the keeneland select summer sale.a ot is owed to northern dancer and the concept of shuttling.but they are the worlds greatest selfpromoters they have to be.
beautiful horse and a very hearth felt story guys,real nice. I think thats the first time I saw a replay of that race....also nice reporting on the up coming race's ...Thanks Guys
I'm thrilled to see that among Invincible Spirit's ancestors are Sir Ivor, son of Sir Gaylord out of the one and only Somethingroyal, dame of half brother Secretariat.
very good documentary.but with sadlers well i think of nearco line on top and rough shod II on the bottom, makes me think of england and tesio first.
They are unbelievable
All horses are the one. Each deserving of a magnificent adventure and excersise . When you people finally understand it's not about winning but the process and journey. Winning is only part of a long steady and patient journey. Rewuirering other ventures funding the opperation. A sanctuary where dicepline grace and hard gradural work help the animal be it's best. Honoring that after it's retirement. Its not about you or betting or winnings. You will know this the day of judgement when we meet God in heaven.
Every where when you look at a successful horse, you will most likely see Northern Dancer somewhere down the line
arguably the best trainer combo in the world........ did u really say that about Joesph hahahahahah
Pipe and Scudamore....
I thought every horses' all 4 legs are off the ground at one point when running, not only the Irish thoroughbred.
it says a galloping not Irish
moving story
I'm very impressed with these information, I now want to be a trainer. Who can I contact.
horses are in my blood
horses...thoroughbred...genetic... dna.... research. OMG. IT'S LIKE..HEAVEN!! EQUINOME....Really? OMG... IT'S MY DREAM..AND IT'S TRUEEEE !!!
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That historian Williams is talking absolute bollocks when he said Aidan was the same stuff as Vincent. Aidan was handed Ballydoyle - and the bloodlines - but Vincent made Ballydoyle, and had to handpick each horse.
Spot on old boy.
WHY, then, was Aidan given the office? By the owners. Have they been proved wrong, in their choice, decision, selection? Any successor to Vincent would have been "handed" Ballydoyle. What other scenario would it have been?
Here's a fact. 95% of all 2 year old winners trace in male line to the Darley Arabian. Almost NO stallions standing at stud do not trace in male line to the Darley.
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actually horses peak at around 8-12 years.
Horses that are 8-12 years old are usually at the age where they are suitable for young riders/beginners, unlike a "green" 4 year old. A horse's bone structure is fully developed by the time they are 6, but 4 is the recommended age to start a horse.
But you get the point right? spectaculaura
Mallory S Of course, I was just correcting the facts.
that depends what your using them for. training starts at yearling. but racers and jumpers are peak at 2-4. westerns peak at 5-8.
Show me an 8/10/12 year-old that would beat a grade one four year old.
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Why was it necessary to repeatedly show a dead horse? The points made while showing that deceased horse could have been made with live horses or diagrams.
great thoroughbreds come from ky
+thomas miro Great horses were introduced to Kentucky also.
your right, for the turf breeding
TEA miro truly
A Great Thoroughbred be bred in any county: Ireland or U.S.A. or Argentina or or Aus. or NZL or England or Italy (Nearco) or France or Canada ( "Northern Dancer "), OR GERMANY.
Urban Sea (USA born and bred (by Miswaki, by Mr. Prospector), Urban Sea won Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe (1993) and is Dam (mother) of Galileo & SEA THE STARS. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_Sea
bye, I have GOoD horses To Find.
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WHAT THEY DON;T TELL YOU RACING IS THE ONLY HORSE SPORT WHERE THEY DON;T USE AI. BECAUSE IS THEY DID HE PRICE OF STUD FEES WOULD DROP
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They don’t use AI because thoroughbreds are already fairly inbred. The quarter horse breed has selected for a long list of genetic conditions because of allowing AIAnd embryo transfer. POS stallion impressive is the worst culprit. He was bred out the wazoo because of his freakish muscling which precluded athleticism and would have only been a plus for a meat animal. A lot of his inbred offspring are nutcases as well.
Ireland certainly is a beautiful country and it has been instrumental in helping develop the Thoroughbred. But the thoroughbred really is a very international. For example the six million dollar Chiquita has only one Irish ancestor. Most of her ancestry was from Great Britain, then the USA and one from Canada, France and Italy as well. With its speed, grace courage and beauty the thoroughbred traverses the globe and unites humanity with a shared interest.
best horses and trainers are irish :)
Ross_AFC As I know very little about training horses and what does and does not make a trainer the best, I imagine you could be right about that. As to the horses, I go back to my original comment. If you are talking about the best thoroughbreds, some of them are from Ireland but their ancestry is English. All of the English thoroughbreds trace back to English and Middle Eastern bloodstock. The foundation stallions were the Darley Arabian, the Godolphin Arabian and the Byerly Turk. English thoroughbreds were purchased by North Americans, Europeans, South Africans, Irish, Australians and so on. By now, thoroughbred racing is found far and wide including Turkey, India, Argentina, Chile, Brazil, Hong Kong, Japan and many other countries.Some very fine breeding establishments are located in Ireland but there are comparable ones in most of the countries mentioned. The horses have been bred across national boundaries so much so that it is incorrect to claim they are Irish, Canadian, French, English, United Statesers, etc. Take the great sire Sadlers Wells. He was bred in the United States. At Coolmore in Ireland he has been a preeminate sire, but he is by Northern Dancer, Canadian bred, and out of Fairy Bridge, U S bred. In his second generation back he has another Canadian bred, and three U S bred. In this third generation back he has five from the USA, one from Italy , one from Great Britain and one from Argentina. In his fourth generation back he has seven from the USA, five from Great Britain, two from France, one from Italy and one from Argentina. In his fifth generation back he has fourteen from Great Britain, eleven from the USA, five from France, one from Argentina and one from Ireland. In all those generations he has only one from Ireland. So it is really inaccurate to say any thoroughbred horse is a particular country's achievement.
There are some horse breeds that are only from one country for many, many years, such as the Icelandic Horse. I have heard of the Irish Hunter and the Connemara as Irish breeds. Are there any others?
Vernon France regardless of what you say.. fair enough most great irish horses have aribian bloodline mixed with british war horses or whatever.. after years and years through time the horses that have been trained and bred on irish soil and even raced.. are predominantly claimed irish ! its like anything.. for example there is only a certain distance you claim to be prop irish when its comes to irish-american heritage and after that your nearly 100 percent american.... thats the situation now when it comes to thoroughbred horses in ireland
Vernon France yes,irish draught horse,irish sports horse,and kerry bog pony,that's three there is probably more..
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I owned a Nijinsky grandson. Bought him for £500.
NZ are putting out some good horses at the moment
Love horses, but I have no respect for the horse racing industry. Please tell us what happens to 90% of those thoroughbreds who don't make money after a few races. I can tell you.... Very good documentary, though.
please tell me, you sound like you know your stuff
They are rehomed and retrained into riding horses - it's not that bad of a life
Chris, is that worse than being run down by predators, hamstrung, or suffocated by a bite to the windpipe, sometimes having their guts eaten while they are still alive... the fate of pretty much all wild horses at some time in their lives? The cycle of life and death in Nature may look cruel to people of today. Is there a difference between eating a horse and a cow or steer? Or a chicken?
In America, many horses are kept alive that cannot be ridden, due to soundness problems in the legs or spine,or temperament issues. Even with medications ,many of these horses are in near constant pain. If those horses were recycled or harvested, thousands of homes for retired TBs would be available.
There are other creative ways that horses can be kept happy and fit and help pay their way, but it takes a mental shift on the part of humans who tend to want to keep them 'wrapped in cotton wool, so to speak.
Tell us Charlotte
They why are so many dangerous and mean stallions in the US either born and raised in Ireland or gone over for racing or breeding? What do they do to those horses?
Too bad these magnificent animals are treated like a machine. bred, trained, ran, and put in a box. It would be so much better if they were considered a flesh and blood ani!mal and be given time to just be a horse on a regular basis.. yes it takes money to pay for them but they are living, breathing and social creation.
Horses are put in a box for their safety. I agree that some turnout time on a regular basis is ideal, and some try to provide this while minimizing the likelihood that they will injure themselves. In America, many racehorses in training are given time in small roundpens where they can walk and trot around, sniff, look around, roll...'just be a horse'. All are raised on spacious pastures. Breeding stock typically has lots of time in paddocks and/or pastures to 'just be a horse'.
Other horses often spend as much time in boxes, aka boxstalls, as racehorses do,with even less time to express their instinct to run, with even less exercize, and often higher levels of frustration and stress. Even those with access to doften don' t have enough room to trot,fewer have room to run- especially in regions where land prices are high.
If ridden or given enough other exercize, this is no problem. In America,the number one killer of horses is colic- almost always caused by not enough exercize,with too much grain and frustration and/or not enough roughage frequent contributing factors. People think giving them lots of grain and letting them just loaf around most of the time is being kind, but it can kill them.
@@Jefferdaughter To be healthy a horse needs to be on the move all the time. Keep his gut moving. Horses need grass and the ability to browse. Stable fed horses on high protein diets are without a doubt far more likely to die from colic. So you are right. I love horses but let's face it the whole industry is the playground of billionaires. Oil-rich Arabs v Coolmore. plus all the hangers-on. Also, of course, the betting industry without which there would not be any form of racing. Also, some most unpleasant individuals are involved at the top. So the horses aside, who are so brave, noble and wonderful will always be the playthings of the mega-rich.
Poor ol Sea the Stars after all he has achieved shut in his horse prison, surely there is another way to keep horses than in square boxes with steel grills over the window!
the foreigners would nick them and eat them
the carpet matches the drapes
Ben johnson would had been the best trainer 🤣
The royld Arabic,,,,,, was buying them back
"A tumble in the hay" to describe horses mating. Ffs.
Think my pony in my pocket won’t buy much at goffs, in fact it’ll hardly buy hay for a pony😊, still even though horse racing and breeding is elitist and only really for the rich at least us peasants can still enjoy watching these thoroughbreds run
waaaay toooo much music.
Great Thoroughbred come from all over the world. We had the best sprinter bred in Australia, best stayer bred in Great Britain, best Middle Distance horse bred in France(Seabird for me, others can disagree), greatest sire (Canada).
Oh and PETA FUCK OFF THIS PAGE.
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Arabic horses
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i didnt watch this to see a dead horse............. wtf is wrong with these people
The Irish trainer's don't have to reveal their secrets about how they always seem to end up with the best horses. It's not rocket science. I mean for instance:: Aiden can you tell us how you always have the best horses ? Well its down to luck & oh sorry a wee white lie, because I'm the trainer at Coolmore so I'm very lucky to have alot of great owners behind me i.e Mr Magnier, Mr Tabor & so im very fortunate to have such a great NO sorry fantastic bunch of billionaire's now probably so get the chance to have such alot of top class horses, roughly about 200-250 to help me win so many accolades 9 Epsom Derby's, about 13-14 1000 & 2000 English Guineas winners, about 11-12 Irish Derby's & about 15-16 Irish 1000 & 2000 Guineas winners & St Leger winners & 10 Ascot Gold Cups to go with about 350 other G1's to go with my 1,795 winners half of which are the listed winners i forgot to mention because I'm not even though I play the " I couldn't do it without all the people who work in the background " on camera its really all about FUCKING ME OK so don't FUCKING forget it.
The breed is called the "English Thoroughbred" because it was created in England during the 18th centrury by breeding three Arabian stallions with English mares. This is just a fact. Irish breeding really took off in th 1980's when the Irish government gave the industry huge tax breaks. It did this by cutting health and welfare spending.
Mr villan u are dribbling shit took off 1980 ha ha
NOVICE NEED TO KNOW: When is artificial insemination and embryo freezing used with race horses?
In thoroughbred racehorses? Never.
Watching the constant growth of such a destructive "industry" as Horse and Dogg Racing, simply gives greater credibility to Socialist Planning, Industrialisation and full employment. At least 800 race horses are killed each year by vets and many more are slaughtered cheaply for sausage meat. Justified by "creating jobs". If this is the beat Capitalism can do for work creation, then how on earth can we justify putting down an alternative economic-sporting system which does not rely on or need this destruction?? Not to mention the millions of bankrupt punters.
But there will never be another SECRETARIAT !!!!!
Vishal Singh ... overrated! Who did he beat again?
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The Irish certainly are good horsemen worldwide but the very best horsemen ever known in the world history without a doubt are American horsemen in fact Irish horsemen came to the United States by the hundreds n the 1970s for farm manager trainee programs just to learn how to do it right!
Weanlings sell for 7.5 mil in KY.
If the horses are naturally so good, why do you keep beating them and tying their tongues back during races, and using harsh bits? Why are they killed after retirement? There is nothing natural about that.
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Most of the great stallions came from USA and canada
What about the first 3 foundation sire?
Galileo is Irish nothing better last 12 years! He fathered Frankel / he’s Brother Sea the Stars
Who came from Europe before that.
What a load of RTE crap
the guy who had the biggest influence on TB breeding during the last 100 years was the Italian Frederico Tessio, no Irish there. He also created the northern Dancer Bloodline.
Never seen so many shitty riders as actually in ireland just jolly amateurs
Jealousy will only make you bitter and its too late for you Helene.
Finally sbdy that really know horses history... frederico tesio was the man...then boussack
Frederico tesio and Marcel boussac
I’m sorry but I believe Kentucky is the horse capital of the world
Conman more like it ,
she is making a long story out of normality.