The Tragedy Of Creedence Clearwater Revival
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
- The sound and lyrics of the legendary rock band Creedence Clearwater Revival or CCR can make you feel like you’re in the bayou, make your feet stomp, and make you want to fight the man all at the same time. CCR has given music fans countless hits like “Bad Moon Rising,” “Fortunate Son,” “Susie Q,” “Up Around the Bend, and “Born on The Bayou.” Even today, CCR’s music is still being played regularly on classic rock station airwaves. But the band sadly broke up in 1972 due to creative differences and business dealings that ended up leading to lawsuits. But the turmoil that struck the band didn’t stop there. Here are the tragic details of CCR.
#Music #CCR #Bands
Two members were drafted | 0:00
CCR performs at Woodstock | 1:37
Success during tumultuous times | 3:05
John Fogerty finally relents | 4:23
Tom Fogerty leaves CCR | 5:22
Mardi Gras | 6:05
Fogerty fights Fantasy Records | 7:23
Tom and John Fogerty's relationship | 8:24
Hall of Fame | 9:28
A CCR reunion? | 10:58
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The music they made in such a short time together is unbelievable
No, it's John Fogerty
@@davesmith3561 Do you mean the extraordinary music they produced was (largely or mainly) because of John Fogerty’s supreme talent? Well, I absolutely agree. However flawed his character, John was a unique musical genius.
@@Merry-ov7oo
Nearly all musical geniuses are like this.
Yes. And 99% of that was because of John Fogerty. I was a teenager in their days. And not one of us would’ve thought much about any of the other band members without John’s voice.
@@6teezkid and still, after the split, Fogerty's music lost it's shine. so maybe it was the sum of all parts?
I am 67 years old and Creedence is the most often played CD in my truck. I never remove it for another. My favorite is "Bad Moon Rising", then "Have You Ever Seen the Rain" and finally "Looking Out My Back Door".
I’m 69 and CCR was the soundtrack to my coming of age.
40. And CCR was and is my favorite band of all time. I have a great iTunes list of CCR and similar bands that is perpetually on my phone.
Wrote a song for everyone is my all time favorite
Chaz: "Keep on Chooglin"
Great tunes and a great band.. totally unique sound and great lyricists..
Just breaking-John won his songwriting credits back!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏✌️ after 50 YEARS!👏👏👏👏👏👏✌️
This is so cool to read, didn´t know that, he derserve them
I was at John fogerty concert in Toronto last Sunday! He was just amazing! Love that his sons are in his band now!
John is the voice!
saw J. Fogerty yesterday in Antwerp (Belgium). Great stuff
Saw him in Virginia ! Last night . He was amazing
has he tried to sue them yet?
The first record I ever bought was CCR's ' Down On The Corner ' , I was just a kid and my Mother gave me 35 cents to purchase the 45 record from the local SILCO store. That was around 1969. Every time I hear that song I think of her. That is the power of good music.
I had that album with that song....the album cover had the 10 speed bike....lookin out my back door ....I also had stepenwolf monster and blind faith then Paul's Mcartneys first album cant even remember the few others I owned....I just listened to em over and over and over on the old "Hi Fi" my dad gave me when he bought a stereo...that actually sounded really good even iif it was not a stereo...lol all my cash went to racing motorcycles and music was on a real budget
The 60s were great years as a kid and the music was pheonominal.
@@dougiequick1 we had that album too. My older brother bought it when the family bought our first "Hi-Fi. Loved that album. 1972, I was 10. Years later, bought their greatest hits on 8 track 😆and played it in my car.
@@dougiequick1 6jkh
Sure was and I bought the same records here in County Durham England
turns out John was right, he was the writing and singing talent, and even his solo stuff is as good as the best of CCR. But still without a doubt, Creedence is still classic rock that cant fade away. its just to good.
When people that dont know what they are doing try to act like they know what they are doing, nothing gets done.
*too
See my post!👌👏
But after he left CCR he never had the same level of success. They had that special chemistry as a team. Even after Tom left, their live sound tanked because they never replaced him and they just went on as a 3-piece band. After that, they simply could not deliver the old songs without his rhythm guitar and backup vocals. They screwed up trying to forge ahead without replacing Tom. That shows John had a big head, in my opinion.
I'm quite sure this album was a case of John proving just your point to the other bandmates. LOL! I'm sure his plan was let them have their way on this one, it will certainly bomb, and then we can move on.
I worked behind the scenes with the bands for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame shows. There were rehearsals in Cleveland Ohio for about two weeks prior to the induction ceremony and concert. Fogerty was the only member of CCR who was ever planned for rehearsals. I remember him walking into the studio, with the house band, led by Booker T. and the MG's, the Memphis Horns, and Donald 'Duck' Dunn. Fogerty brought a CD with him: "CCR's Greatest Hits", and with only a few words, popped it into a boom box, skipping through the tracks to find the ones he wanted to play for the show. As he found each track he tried to play along with "himself' on the CD to refresh on how to play the track. As a testament to the legendary musicians who were the house band, they picked up the tunes themselves after one or two run throughs. Legends, every one..
Well, those guys, hell yeah! They needed TWO run throughs??? lol
Well, hell- any seasoned musician who by now cannot dust off a few classic CCR tunes in one or two run-throughs isn't even worth their own weight.
John was the man!
After 50 years, CCR remains to this day one of my all-time favorite bands. The humanity of their songs is eternal and transcends the boundaries of pop music. I've thought about having "Up Around the Bend" played at my funeral.
My favorite CCR SONG !
You wont have a funeral you will be cremated
John Fogerty doesn’t get nearly enough credit as a composer/songwriter. Proud Mary alone puts him amongst the greatest of all time.
Also a hell of a guitar player.
That is a song I put in the same category with bohemian rhapsody - good song but WAAAAYYYYY overplayed..
If I never hear it again it will be too soon...sorry!
But I LOVE all their other songs (esp. Green River & Run thru the Jungle)
@@neosturm5288 Those are both INCREDIBLE songs AND they are overplayed.
@@syfr John Fogerty is also quite a talented golfer, according to Bob Uecker.
I had a serious motorcycle accident in 2002 and spent two months in hospital , the pain and physiotherapy were torture , but CCR helped me get through it , playing on an old Walkman I would fall asleep with them playing in my ears , great band.
Same here except didn't have such bad accident. Loved my Walkman played CCR every night inland barge workover 7 and 7 triple joint drilling rig.
The most amazing thing they ever did imo. Was their version of I HEARD IT THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE. The 11 minute album version is something VERY SPECIAL. And should be as revered as anything in rock history.
Totally agree. It has a haunting sound to it esp with the thump of the floot tom over and over.
Thanks for reminding me of it. I've not listened to it for 50 years. Will go to it now.
Amen to that.
I was surprised when CCR recorded a Motown song.
first song I ever downloaded.
No matter which way you looked at it Fogerty WAS CCR. His voice was iconic. Seriously he could have played with any support musicians to be great. Who remembers the others?
Very true. John Fogerty was more to CCR than Sting was to The Police.
...and he does with his sons and daughter as good as the original.
The other three were just jealous fools. It's not like the Beatles where you have three legitimate song writers that successfully went their own separate ways.
Now you're thinking just like him😅
My dad has had 4 strokes this year. His goal is to make it to his 74th birthday and make it to the CCR Concert in Vegas. 🙏🏽💙🙏🏽
And may he complete that goal.🙏
I hope he does,my father wanted to make it to his birthday/fathers day be passed the day after.🙏🇦🇺
He better make it to that concert i’d honestly just be mad if he doesn’t, that man better be ok
@@1uxurynxde I hope so too. He is so excited. We arrive Friday. Concert Saturday night 🙌🏽
@2008 Ransom thank you for the encouraging words. You made my evening ❗️
My Dad loved them, I remember him sitting in the study with his headphones on and singing at the top of his voice and my Mum saying to me “could you go and tell your father to close the door, I can’t hear the television”. Makes me laugh just to think about it. Can’t listen to a CCR song without remembering my Dad.
My sons are 5 and 8 and I sing all the songs to them. When I'm gone I hope they listen on 😇
That is amazing Kerry Wykes. My dad didn't have a study yet he did the same thing in our living room. My parents divorced around 1980 and my old man moved down the road. Funny thing In 85 Fogerty released 'The old man down the road'. My dad sang that shit at the top of his lungs.
Very sweet.
Those sound like fun memories. When my dad came home from work and had a few beers, he used to put on Cosmo's Factory and start dancing like a crazy man in the living room. It drove my Mom up the wall but I must have been about five years old, sitting on the couch watching him dance. He always made me laugh so hard. He's 76 now and hasn't changed since. He's the best Dad you could ever wish for.
People always tell me that they think of me when they hear CCR. I’m ok with that. I think of my big brother. He took me to my first concert ever. CCR at MSG in NYC. Every time I hear Creedence, I get to spend 3minutes with him. Sadly, he left the planet some 30 years ago.
Wonderful to hear about John still working, playing and performing with his sons. Congratulations to him (and his sons).
To me, John Forgerty is a very good songwriter and has a great voice while playing his guitar. Terrific, Talented man of all time.
Fogerty is CCR and will always be
The other cling ons shouldve just been happy to be involved. Untalented hacks couldve and SHOULDVE been replaced before they made it big. John was the brain and heartbeat.
Growing up in the early 70s, I'd watch my mom wait until my dad left for work, then she'd go into the attic and get out her Stones and CCR LPs to play on our 'console' record player. I knew all the words to their songs by the time I was 6. As a drummer, the first song I ever learned was Suzie Q (Yes, I know it was a Dale Hawkins remake). That started a 40-year career in music. I still credit CCR as my first inspiration.
Theres nothing wrong with being a bass player or drummer supporting a singular talent. Being a good teamate and solid pro while performing at a high level is just as honorable. I wish I had more schooling in identifying individual strengths and weaknesses. These guys formed a near perfect unit, and the tragedy is they didnt realize it.
This is a thing that is far more common in different genre's outside of rock 'n roll, playing other people's material and direction is a sore thumb for many musicians in rock 'n roll, where classical musicians will just play centuries old stuff without personal issue. Though I can definitely understand Tom felt rolled-over by his brother, that's not a good place to be in such a relationship.
I Concur
I agree, however being the true talent of any group or organization doesn't justify being an absolute jerk to your family, friends, and workmates. Over the years I've seen business groups be very successful for a while but eventually imploding once politics and tyranny took over.
@@danbradley7176 The Rolling Stones should give seminars.
I love John Fogerty and have for years. I have seen him live a number of times and he always comes across as a bit of a douche. I suspect he may not have been the most awesome person to hang around. I hope I'm wrong. He's still a legend and an awesome song writer.
Just look at the post-CCR music careers each member had, gives an idea of who the real talent in CCR was
Without John Fogerty there would not have been a 'Creedence Clearwater Revival'. His writing and musical skills are why CCR is now a legendary band. Not to take anything away from the other 3 band members, but John Fogerty would have been just as successful with just about any bass player, rhythm guitarist, and drummer.
Talent and perseverance are seperate traits.
True. It ain't rocket science! LOL!!
CCR was my favorite band during my high school years, 1967 thru 1971. Had all their albums.
Timeless songs…that can and must never be forgotten..
They have about 40 amazing songs in 3 years unbelievable
When you've got talent like these guys, (and especially John Fogerty) all you need is a drummer, bass player, rhythm guitarist, and lead guitar. These four guys really put out some great sound!!!
When you spend 90% of your waking hours with the same guys day after day, egos an personalities are bound to clash. It is just part of being human. It does not take away from the fact that CCR was one of the best bands ever.
yet a lot of great bands do stay together for many years or part on amicable terms. begees, beatles, rolling stones, and many others stay together or part friendly.
@@fefferryerr1818 much more rare
@@jibjones1233 John was the man!
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WELL SAID
I played in dance bands for years. If the set list was failing, we went straight to Creedence! Filled the floor every time!
My parent are 85 and 84, as a teen in early 70's they hooked me
That band wouldn’t have been anything special without John Fogerty!
If I was in a band that had a insanely charismatic vocalist, songwriter, composer with a voice that could raise the dead. I'd be thrilled if I was allowed to play 3 notes on a flute, on the album.
They probably had a couple stupid people telling them in the background they were really the talented ones lol.
To be fair, George Harrison was in such a band with TWO such persons, and yet he pushed forward with his own ideas. Likewise, Bob Weir was in a band with such a person (Jerry Garcia), and yet he pushed forward.
@@IndyDefense The difference is George Harrison had been writing and singing songs since the Beatles started. The only songwriting talent in CCR WAS John Fogerty.
@@IndyDefense Bob and George honed their skills and talents as they went along. They didn't fight their leaders, they learned from them. They approached it as, "How do I make a bigger contribution to this band?"
@@monkmchorning That's true with George, but Bob was writing stuff from the very beginning, and then just sort of jumped right into it around '71, and then started pumping out tons of stuff. In CCR, the same was the case with Tom; He was writing from the beginning, and had sat and watched John do his thing, and was ready to contribute more songs than just "Walk on the Water". Now, I'm not saying his songs were anywhere near John's, but come on... he was the dude's brother. At least give him a song or two per album. Just look at all the filler that John threw into their trio of '69 albums. Tom had some stuff they could've tossed in there. As for Stu and Doug... there's less of a case, but I still think they could've been allowed one song per album like Ringo had. It's not like any of their stuff was going to be a single.
They were great! One thing I can never get over is the fact they were from Northern California but sounded exactly like they just came out of a Louisiana bayou -- their voices and their incredible guitar playing. Probably one of the most unique bands I've ever heard in my life. I love their music to death! My all-time favorite song of theirs is, hands down, *_Green River._*
Mine too, with Commotion a close second.
they do seem kinda California okie. and look it. John looks like my ex. Same clothes too.
Группу Криденс, воспринимаю очень вежливо, и достойно ! В отличие от многих других групп того времени, исполняющих либеральную мякину, Криденс,понимает и воспринимает, молодежь нашего времени.
Криденс -- божья искра, пять лет им хватило чтобы войти в историю !
For guys who ended up hating each other they sure sounded sweet together.
Thx to the only guy who had all the talent.
@@ExMachina70 The same guy who pissed away all of the rest of the bands money by making stupid business decisions.
@@ExMachina70 He was the songwriter for sure, and a great “swamp rhythm” guitarist. But the other three were very competent musicians, and unfortunately JF would never accept their ideas for new songs. Even now, he’s still very much an ass.
Everybody l knew, had the ' COSMOS FACTORY ' album !! My Barber, would sing - ' LOOKING OUT MY BACKDOOR ' . Every song on it, was a hit !! If you want to place, something in my coffin, this is it !!
@@gator2813 Hey, Peckerhead! You should have been running things as far as band business! Maybe you should put up some of your credentials as far as management is concerned?
CCR was John Fogerty. I owned every LP, duplicated in cassettes and CDs when they came out. I've been listening to them since 9 years old and just turned 60. They will always be my favorite band.
I still listen to them since I first found them In the 80s when I was a kid. As soon as I was old enough I bought the individual albums of all my favorite classic rock bands. I now have over 15,000 cds but I burnt them to a hardrive hooked up to my home theater for easier acess
I am also listing to CCR songs since I am 11 years old. Now I am 60 and the music of CCR hasn ˋ t lost power for me through all the years!!!
I don't know if it's still a thing or not, but my buddies uncle in North Georgia throws a festival every year called "John Fogerty Days"... Maybe check it out
Yah, my family is into music. Ill see what I can find.
Or was it John Fogerty was CCR? With out him right....people would be asking, " who is CCR"...I know what you mean and fully agree. I'm 57.
CCR is the group that got me into music. It always saddens me when I look back on what happened to them. Egos. Royalties. Writing credits, lawsuits, etc.. It boggles my mind that they could never make it work again after that. 7 albums in such a short time, 5 of them picture perfect records. Still my favorite rock 'n roll band, I always imagine what they could have been if they had stuck it out all the way through the 70's. That would've really been something.
It’s a shame how most rock bands ends up breaking up in such unpleasant terms,
CCR were really fantastic live, of course John was the driving force and the brain, but Tom, Stu and Cosmo were energetic, solid and consistant, the band played as a whole without any of the instrument overshadowing the other as it’s sometimes the case in other bands, this is so rare,
We can only admire what they accomplished in that little amount of time
My parents loved these guys, and tbh so do I. Classic, quality music.
Hits the soul
Always filled the dance floor when whatever band I was in at the time played Creedence songs. Fun to play, too! Still playing Creedence at Veteran and senior events, and they still packin the dance floor!
Got introduced to CCR from my big brother on his 8 trak tape in his car, udunno, mid 70s, loved them ever since.
"Born on the Bayou" is my favorite, and I doubt any other band could do it justice.
I still play their music, love Born on the Bayou, Put a Candle in the Window, Have You Ever Seen the Rain, Bad Moon Rising, Green River. They had a lot of good stuff, thanks to John.
Put a Candle in the Window is actually part of the lyrics. the actual titled is "Long as I can see the light"
Bor on The Bayou could listen all the time
@@stevenaragon4412 one of my favorites. I had forgotten about it until I read this.
Very sad. Tears in my eyes that both brothers would let it get, and stay, so bitter, literally to THE END. I love the music; I was in love with a girl named Susan Quinn so "Susie Q", I felt, was made for me! Thanks for your work on this! Blessings!
Despite being born post-2000, CCR have been my favorite band for a while. I've always wondered why they never reached big time until this video. If they were able to be together longer, I'm sure they would've reached more fame.
They were working under the yoke of a horrible promotional contract they signed without professional advice. The contract holder had the rights to ALL their music. At their peak the songs are selling like skyrockets---but they were only receiving starvation wages due to the horrible contract. John went to court trying to break free from the contract to no avail. They lost millions to the holder of the contract. Only a relatively few yers ago did they once again gain control of their music. Personal internal conflicts hurt them badly.
In the late 1960s CCR was the hottest group on the radio. All my friends & I loved them.
I love them.
In my day they were VERY famous!!
They did make the big time. They were arguably the biggest band in the world at their peak.
Very unfortunate that there relationship turned into such a mess . Cannot under estimate the amazing talent John Fogerty has . I saw him in concert a few years ago. Incredible entertainer, played for over 2 hours and sounded awesome.
He is almost 80 years old and his voice is still strong and solid. For me, his rock is just as fresh today as it was in the beginning!
Creedence is my favorite go to band when I am a bit down, always lifts me up.
Had the good fortune to be living in Sydney when John had a show at the Opera House back in 2005. His voice still rang like a bell, and he played all the hits. Forever grateful to have seen a legend of that calibre in his element when I'd thought that the chance had passed me by.
I also was there in Sydney.... great venue for a living legend :) and sounded great !
CCR, one of my all time favorite bands.
John Fogerty was the goose that laid multiple golden eggs. His mojo was as powerful as the Beatles. All the members of CCR were talented but John Fogerty's amazing voice and great musicianship blew everyone away. I watched the complete set of CCR at Woodstock that John felt wasn't so hot. If that wasn't so hot, I'd like to see them when he thought they were. Musicians with super talent are still just humans going through all kinds of emotions. Remember that Roger Daltry doesn't listen to Who records because it just reminds him of fights and bad blood.
Born 1979. CCR is my favorit band. I love the music, everytime, everywhere, in every shape.
I can readily appreciate your good taste in excellent sounds.
My fav band.... I still have the CDs and always listening while driving.....
Down the road you go! Ramble Tamble! :D
Have you ever seen the rain remains one of my favourite songs. Down on the corner too.
John wrote a song about his sadness at his brother leaving. It's one of my favorite CCR songs, it's on Pendulum, the track after Have You Ever Seen the Rain, called Wish I Could Hideaway.
Without John.....There is NO Creedence......Period!!!
No doubt.
I agree
@Fred Wright Sorry Freddy...."Little" Johnny was..Actually "BIG" Johnny in that band and...They knew it!!!!!
@@newspapertaxis1 big ego johnny is an ass
@Jeff B It's well documented...John WAS
the man in the band.......NOT the man in the Van.......as in YOUR case......
I grew up listening to CCR.
Did ya!?
@@MtnLiner yes I grew up during the 80's and my mom had their albums.
@Lacy Inmon have you been John live concert??
100th like
Saw John Forgerty 2 days ago. He played with 2 of his sons. The man still has it. And yes heard it thru the grape vine was the highlight
Talk man! Need to know how it was?
Summer of 1969 was the best music of CCR .Thanks guys. Still rocking to the sound. 😊👍
Was lucky enough to see CCR perform back in the early 70's in Toronto at Maple Leaf Gardens.
Got to see Fogerty in concert when he could finally play his own songs again, wouldn't have missed it for the world.
I envy you. That must have been very special.
It's not only music...it's a healing therapy
I still play his music almost everyday. For veterans Fortunate Son stays with us.
He's playing in St Augutine in July he will be amazing
I went to school with Tom's kids in Berkeley. The band was from the San Francisco East Bay (El Cerrito). My friend was in a band with Tom's son, Jeff. Tom was famous for having a stunning historic home in the Berkeley Hills. Fantasy Studio, where the band recorded, also moved to Berkeley from San Francisco in 1971. It's great to be a local with an epic band like this!
Great to hear!👍
Due to the long protracted legal battles, I'd completely given up hope of ever hearing the beloved CCR songs of my youth played live. I went to a John Fogerty concert a couple of years ago, not knowing quite what to expect, but there it was - that VOICE, like it was still 1967, bringing tears to my eyes, and to my surprise and joy he did play a good number of the classic CCR songs.
funny thing is that if you closed your eyes and him and Tom were each singing the same song, you could not tell them apart.
@@sidcostello7532 Tom said I can sing but John had A Sound.
....and he was pretty good with a shotgun on the ducks.
John is the MAN!
I just heard John got the rights to his songs back.it only took 50 odd years.glad for you mate you always deserved it💯👍🍻🎸
I wish ccr would get back together . This is the band i learned drums on . Man what a sound they would have .❤️🥁🇺🇸
Loved that band , have been a huge fan for years. Still play it volume x10 as a 66 year old!! Have many cd's. They kept me sane during my military service.!
Well, as an 82 year old ex-Englishman, I am the same (NB I am now proudly French! Bastille Day and all that?)
I saw him after he won the lawsuit.... first concert...great woods in mass....my birthday.....he came out on stage and walked up to Mike and said...I found out today I can play my songs,it's been a long time and here it goes....he did suzi q.....I could not believe it......he then played everything......he was unreal....
No....way....are....you....serious?....You....gotta....tell....that....story....again....That....is....unbelievable....
I can remember listening to CCR on my dad's old 8-track tapes as a kid. Loved listening to bad moon rising.
I STILL REMEMBER HEARING THEM IN THE LATE 60'S WHEN I WAS ABOUT 15 YEARS OLD.....THE MUSIC NEVER LEFT ME, EVEN AFTER ALL THE OTHER GREAT ARTISTS OVER THE YEARS......BRINGS BACK MANY SPECIAL MEMORIES OF LONG GONE FRIENDS & TIMES!!
ur caps lock is on, homeslice
why you shouting at me bro?
@@TheUA-camUser69 he might be hearing impaired. If he was 15 in the late 60s at least 67 now.
Gary Fricke best reply I've heard all morning. Thanks
I bought an CCR album off the tv when l was ten, that was 45 years ago. They are still my favorite band. My favorite song is "As long as l can see the light".
Darrin Nuner, maybe the best vocal ever by John Fogerty on that song. Overlooked or unknown by most people, but such a GREAT song.
@ Darrin Nuner - Mine too ! Recorded so clearly, in my head, l can "Listen" to it ..ANYTIME !!
mine is It Came Out Of The Sky
Best song from CCR; there´s a fantastic live version on youtube.
Creedence is amazing and J. Fogerty's album Centerfield also!
Controversy... Every band had it's share. But simply put, CCR is one of the greatest bands of all time. The quality of songwriting and music was and will remain both dazzling and unique.
Yep, Swamp Rock rules.
no
The songwriting was all John Fogerty, but the Creedence Clearwater sound was unique to that particular combo. Fogerty has never been able to recreate it without them.
No its nice just top 40 overplayed and over hyped
@@DENVEROUTDOORMAN Perhaps you don't remember when their music first came out. Back then everybody was hot on Creedence even without all the radio hype. Here in the States CCR, Simon & Garfunkel, and The Beatles were THE soundtracks of the '60s and early '70s.
What a sad, unfortunate tale..esp between the 2 brothers. I never knew it was that bad..& genuinely saddens my heart 2 know abt this. Always loved the orig band..as it was. 💗💗
I love CCR! We listen to their greatest hits every Sunday during game night! Such a sad story to such an amazing group!
My dad introduced me to creedence not that long ago. Now I’m a burning fan just like him, and I know that when he is gone I will always have this memory of him
This is why I usually don't look into the biographies of my favorite musicians. I love to just know them for being great at what they do, and it's enough. I hate finding out that they are mere mortals like me!
Fogerty was a genius song writer and he had the voice to go along with with his songs. The other members had their roles in the band and I'm sure JFogerty was difficult to deal with, but "don't shit where you eat my friends".
By Ween
You need a great melody and strong songwriting to produce a hit. CCR had that on all their songs.
Evidently folks don’t get-it that for us Irish , once you get on our shit list , you stay on our shit list !!!
@@rjwintl JF was right. Those behind him were just back there getting rich from him and putting him down at same time, specially his jelous brother Tom fogerty..
Sibling rivalry undercut the band and poisoned the other members
The band I love the most has the saddest history.
I'm saddened by their story, too.
However, read about the band Badfinger. That story might be worse.
Yes I know them. You are right, their story are worse.
@@Dulcimerist What about Viola Beach ? I think their story might be the most tragic.
@@Dulcimerist CCR & Badfinger are two of my favorite bands. I’m fortunate to have met all the members of both a bands and recorded with some of them.
Top 5 for me and yeah, it sucks.
I learned a long time ago, The hardest part of being in a band, is keeping it together.
Being in a band is a RELATIONSHIP with almost ALL the facets therein and we wonder WHY R&R musicians DIE young and many bands FAIL in the long run...
Well, our rule of thumb became: Don't get band pictures! Lol.. that usually led immediately to the demise of the band!
@@daveguitarnowski4402 Makes sense and IMHO, the most unified band of all time was Rush. Those guys KNEW how to work together through the thick and thin...
I attended John's Blue Moon Swamp Tour in Louisville, Ky in the summer of 1997 and in spite of being a rabid fan of CCR since my teen years in the late 60s and early 70s, I didn't miss the other band members in the slightest amount. John performed with a totally different group of musicians and did a set of over 20 of the best known CCR tunes, along with songs from his solo albums, and I, along with every other attendee at that performance felt like we were at a CCR concert from the 60s, as witnessed by the fact that 10 seconds into the first song everyone stood and didn't sit back down throughout the rest of the performance. John Fogerty WAS CCR and his brother and other bandmates were absolute idiots for not just going along with John's vision. He proved empirically at that concert, 25 years after the break up that he simply didn't need them as anything other than backup musicians. I mean, the man recorded an entire album on which he played every single instrument. As much praise as he gets, it still isn't enough, IMO.
thanks for ur comment ....crystal clair
Well said!
Agree. One of the others leave, no big loss. John leaves and the band is done.
I had all the early CCR 8 track cassettes,in my 67' GTO then my 69' GTO.
The year was 1969, just graduated from high school,then thru the mid 70's.
Loved these guys.
Sad state of affairs,but similar story for nearly every rock band from then up to the present.
Being in a rock band is harmful to your health,especially for lead singers.
Please tell me you still have the GTO! :)
You failed to point out an important aspect of Zandts' lawsuit against Fogerty for plagiarizing. The courts ruled that even though Zandt owned the original song, Fogerty being the songwriter, can't plagiarize himself. That prompted Fogerty to release a whole album of songs that sounded like CCR & named it Deja Vu.
Payback is a mother.
I know, too weird being (allowed to) sued for sounding like yourself:):):) "I can't sound like me or I might be sued for sounding like me!!" Should've kept the case from even going to court.
aka "Poetic Justice" Pun intended
@@markjackson6134 Hate can get so blind a whole lot of noses end up bitten off by their own face's vicious teeth
@@markjackson6134 they should of all taken a page from guys like George and Ringo and all sorts of other band members that just sucked it up and be glad they were successful...Stones are a great example of how you can aggree to disagree and just more or less not ever permenantly disolve a good thing...the old "if it aint broke then..." .ya know?
I played bass on Tom Fogerty's Deal It Out album and toured with him in 1980. During that time, when Tom remarried, he invited all the members of CCR to the wedding and reception. The short story is that our band was set to start playing with Tom's plan of, one by one, getting the members of CCR to replace us on stage. CCR ended up doing about a 45 minute set, this after not having played together for about a decade, and they sounded incredible. While in the studio Tom shared with me in great detail, from his vantage point, what had happened during the history of the band. Given that first hand history from his perspective and having then read both the Bad Moon Rising book and John's book, my conclusion is that, while John certainly made mistakes along the way which he admits to, his version seems to be far closer to the actual reality truth of the band's history, If I were to do a clip for youtube on the history of CCR, I wouldn't give much credit to the other members and definitely would give far more credit to John for a myriad of reasons for the band's success. I feel that you guys should have done a lot more research on this subject before producing your clip.
James, it appears that you and I seem to agree on most things CCR. Thanks for your thoughtful response.
Amen, Brotha! John tried to make peace w/Tom on his deathbed but Tom still wasn't having it. Still so full of "big brother" jealous rage and told John that greedy lowlife devil bastard Zantz was his best friend. OY! Just one last stab in John's already shattered heart.
I liked rock from forever and for some reasons i have found CCR last. Now after all those years i listen mostly to CCR. Nothing else matters.
It's all so sad. There's this thing called forgiveness...I recall playing Green River on the forty five. The sound just jumped out, and all the guitars sounded groovy.
Yep we bought the 45 of Green River. I never tire of those songs.
Agreed! The layering of the guitars on that track is sweet!
Haha..groovy
Im 68 graduated in 1971 ccr was fantastic
Best music that year...Tull,who,Zep,Stones,Yes,etc
My favorites are Fortunate Son and Who'll Stop the Rain, but i like all their songs. John has a voice you know as soon as he starts singing. Very unique. Thank goodness the musicians now have more control, the music industry used to be so horrible to bands, controlling everything, especially how much they got paid.
John had the voice!
I was a butcher at a major grocery store chain and we had an apprentice who was about 25 yrs old.He came in from lunch and said he just got a new CD and it was fantastic! I asked him who the band was and he said," have you ever heard of Creedence Clearwater Revival?" I started laughing! And I said,"yeah, I think I've heard of them!"...
I had a young coworker excitedly tell me I "should check out a guy named Monty Python, he does some really funny stuff, I've heard".
I heard that salad dressing guy Paul Newman used to be a totally famous actor
@@hhiippiittyy If you want to watch some twisted Australian humor, youtube "How to speak Australians" (exactly how it's spelt) Suggest you empty your bladder first.
I can't stop lmfao. Thanks for that.
butcher ugh
My Dad was born in the 20s and mostly listened to old country music and instrumental guitar stuff like Chet Atkins , but he always had CCR tapes in his truck and in his workshop. He knew good rock music and appreciated it. I still have his 8 track of Cosmos Factory
I have Cosmos Factory on LP AND on an eight-track...
My first album was Cosmo's Factory. I still believe it was their best. What a sound! Great memories.
I had an 8 track cartridge of _Cosmo's Factory._ Something about even saying that is just so nostalgic for me. That and my 8 track of the _Easy Rider_ soundtrack were my two favorite go-to playlists in the summer of that year.
**FOGERTY IS STILL THE GENIUS BEHIND THE BAND!!!**
The only band to get sued for sounding too much like themselves
Ikr? I think it was only John Fogerty...who is...was...and always will be Creedence Clearwater Revival...
Fogerty was sued.
Brayden Dennison Fogerty got sued for sounding too much like fogerty his solo song they said sounded too much like a song he wrote for the group years before
John was the target. Blue Ridge Rangers, He did the whole thing by himself.
I can see the other guys being frustrated. What did they have ? Not much, it seems.
And on the flip side, neil young got sued for not sounding like himself enough.
None of these guys would have amounted to anything near what they achieved without John Fogerty. Period!
As true a statement as has ever been said.
True, but if you’re not happy, all the money in the world is meaningless.
Q
John was CCR !
Stu and Doug can't write, sing or play guitar to save themselves.
@@jimmy5634 you might not be happy but having money sure makes being miserable a lot more bearable.
for ages since i first started listening to them,i used to just stare at the album art and just wonder what these guys used to look like in a video,etc,etc .today however it's no big deal of course we now have y/t and various other means of watching them via social media.
Loved that band and the lead singer. John did so well!
We played Doug's daughters wedding on Maui, what a cool guy and superb drummer!
The other 3 had it made so stupid it John everyone wanted to hear not 3 who couldn’t sing or write
Doug is a great drummer loved his explanation of the SuzieQ beat!
In his autobiography admits that he was autocratic. He plainly said "I just had more music in me than them." Blunt but true. He had the magic, as long as they did what they did what he said it worked and it worked REALLY WELL and they made musical history. Sometimes thats just that way it is. I'm sure it was frustrating for the others feeling that their ideas were not being used but it was clear the real talent was John, there's just no denying it.
John Fogerty, Paul Simon, and Paul McCartney are 3 of the best songwriters of our Era.
Oh yea- it’s all about the dam drummer
@@jamesf7867 and Neil Young and Jim Morrison !
While he might have been all the talent in the band that's no way to treat your family and friends. You can't just treat them like session musicians and expect them to be thankful for letting them hold onto your coattails
@@DjDolHaus86 True. It's understandable that they resented him. He basically told them exactly what to play, he heard it in his head and he instinctively knew what worked and he was right. But it would be hard to play in a band with a guy like that. Naturally you'd began to resent it. But at the same time you'd know that he seemed to have the magic that worked. It's interesting to see him play with his children. Basically it's the same thing, they play what he tells them and it works, but I don't know how much they enjoy it. LOL
Loved them then. Love them now. There are a few similarities between Fogerty and Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys: 1. Both are musical and lyrical geniuses. 2. Both are stubborn and uncompromising. 3. Both had brothers who tragically passed. 4. Both struggle[d] to make amends. 5. Both had "managers" who kept them on a leash: Sanetz for Fogerty and for Wilson, his own dad.
6. Both were/are misunderstood. 7. Both wrote music which remains timeless. 8. Both are still loved today by their fans.
Agree.
Actually quite an incredible story!
I didn’t realise that they were only together for such a short time.
They were together for over a decade
@@prettyshinyspaghetti8332 Brother started this
The business of music clouded over the fun of music. I hope the surviving members can tune in again to the pure joy of playing music that the had decades ago. I'm same age and have been performing in bands since age 15, and am able to tune in to the pristine joy of music - tho now I do it solo in my cabin.
"oh, lord....stuck in Lodi, again"
"Rode in on a greyhound,
I'll be walking out if I go"
I remember them as a kid- songs your parents played- and still enjoy them to this day especially the longer more psychedelic version of Suzie Q
Omg, as a (generous) band leader myself for years, the more I follow the history behind famous groups, my heart is lightened knowing that they too had to suffer unnecessary in-fighting and lack of cooperation from its members. I do love me some CCR!🌹
I don't take anything this creator puts out there if he takes an innocuous musical like "The Sound of Music" so seriously that he needs to critique it...lol, silly.
Damn this is sad.. I had no idea
Amazing set list, hit after hit. Real songs played by a hardworking real band. Can’t argue chemistry.