The first record I ever bought was CCR's ' Down On The Corner ' , I was just a kid and my Mother gave me 35 cents to purchase the 45 record from the local SILCO store. That was around 1969. Every time I hear that song I think of her. That is the power of good music.
I had that album with that song....the album cover had the 10 speed bike....lookin out my back door ....I also had stepenwolf monster and blind faith then Paul's Mcartneys first album cant even remember the few others I owned....I just listened to em over and over and over on the old "Hi Fi" my dad gave me when he bought a stereo...that actually sounded really good even iif it was not a stereo...lol all my cash went to racing motorcycles and music was on a real budget
@@dougiequick1 we had that album too. My older brother bought it when the family bought our first "Hi-Fi. Loved that album. 1972, I was 10. Years later, bought their greatest hits on 8 track 😆and played it in my car.
@@davesmith3561 Do you mean the extraordinary music they produced was (largely or mainly) because of John Fogerty’s supreme talent? Well, I absolutely agree. However flawed his character, John was a unique musical genius.
Yes. And 99% of that was because of John Fogerty. I was a teenager in their days. And not one of us would’ve thought much about any of the other band members without John’s voice.
I am 67 years old and Creedence is the most often played CD in my truck. I never remove it for another. My favorite is "Bad Moon Rising", then "Have You Ever Seen the Rain" and finally "Looking Out My Back Door".
I had a serious motorcycle accident in 2002 and spent two months in hospital , the pain and physiotherapy were torture , but CCR helped me get through it , playing on an old Walkman I would fall asleep with them playing in my ears , great band.
That is a song I put in the same category with bohemian rhapsody - good song but WAAAAYYYYY overplayed.. If I never hear it again it will be too soon...sorry!
turns out John was right, he was the writing and singing talent, and even his solo stuff is as good as the best of CCR. But still without a doubt, Creedence is still classic rock that cant fade away. its just to good.
But after he left CCR he never had the same level of success. They had that special chemistry as a team. Even after Tom left, their live sound tanked because they never replaced him and they just went on as a 3-piece band. After that, they simply could not deliver the old songs without his rhythm guitar and backup vocals. They screwed up trying to forge ahead without replacing Tom. That shows John had a big head, in my opinion.
I'm quite sure this album was a case of John proving just your point to the other bandmates. LOL! I'm sure his plan was let them have their way on this one, it will certainly bomb, and then we can move on.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOHN FOGERTY!!!! 79 YEARS-OLD ON THIS DAY, MAY 28, 2024!!! God bless you John, and thank you for the great music you have given to the world!
Theres nothing wrong with being a bass player or drummer supporting a singular talent. Being a good teamate and solid pro while performing at a high level is just as honorable. I wish I had more schooling in identifying individual strengths and weaknesses. These guys formed a near perfect unit, and the tragedy is they didnt realize it.
This is a thing that is far more common in different genre's outside of rock 'n roll, playing other people's material and direction is a sore thumb for many musicians in rock 'n roll, where classical musicians will just play centuries old stuff without personal issue. Though I can definitely understand Tom felt rolled-over by his brother, that's not a good place to be in such a relationship.
I agree, however being the true talent of any group or organization doesn't justify being an absolute jerk to your family, friends, and workmates. Over the years I've seen business groups be very successful for a while but eventually imploding once politics and tyranny took over.
I love John Fogerty and have for years. I have seen him live a number of times and he always comes across as a bit of a douche. I suspect he may not have been the most awesome person to hang around. I hope I'm wrong. He's still a legend and an awesome song writer.
No matter which way you looked at it Fogerty WAS CCR. His voice was iconic. Seriously he could have played with any support musicians to be great. Who remembers the others?
The other three were just jealous fools. It's not like the Beatles where you have three legitimate song writers that successfully went their own separate ways.
Growing up in the early 70s, I'd watch my mom wait until my dad left for work, then she'd go into the attic and get out her Stones and CCR LPs to play on our 'console' record player. I knew all the words to their songs by the time I was 6. As a drummer, the first song I ever learned was Suzie Q (Yes, I know it was a Dale Hawkins remake). That started a 40-year career in music. I still credit CCR as my first inspiration.
I worked behind the scenes with the bands for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame shows. There were rehearsals in Cleveland Ohio for about two weeks prior to the induction ceremony and concert. Fogerty was the only member of CCR who was ever planned for rehearsals. I remember him walking into the studio, with the house band, led by Booker T. and the MG's, the Memphis Horns, and Donald 'Duck' Dunn. Fogerty brought a CD with him: "CCR's Greatest Hits", and with only a few words, popped it into a boom box, skipping through the tracks to find the ones he wanted to play for the show. As he found each track he tried to play along with "himself' on the CD to refresh on how to play the track. As a testament to the legendary musicians who were the house band, they picked up the tunes themselves after one or two run throughs. Legends, every one..
The other cling ons shouldve just been happy to be involved. Untalented hacks couldve and SHOULDVE been replaced before they made it big. John was the brain and heartbeat.
The most amazing thing they ever did imo. Was their version of I HEARD IT THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE. The 11 minute album version is something VERY SPECIAL. And should be as revered as anything in rock history.
Very sad. Tears in my eyes that both brothers would let it get, and stay, so bitter, literally to THE END. I love the music; I was in love with a girl named Susan Quinn so "Susie Q", I felt, was made for me! Thanks for your work on this! Blessings!
My Dad loved them, I remember him sitting in the study with his headphones on and singing at the top of his voice and my Mum saying to me “could you go and tell your father to close the door, I can’t hear the television”. Makes me laugh just to think about it. Can’t listen to a CCR song without remembering my Dad.
That is amazing Kerry Wykes. My dad didn't have a study yet he did the same thing in our living room. My parents divorced around 1980 and my old man moved down the road. Funny thing In 85 Fogerty released 'The old man down the road'. My dad sang that shit at the top of his lungs.
Those sound like fun memories. When my dad came home from work and had a few beers, he used to put on Cosmo's Factory and start dancing like a crazy man in the living room. It drove my Mom up the wall but I must have been about five years old, sitting on the couch watching him dance. He always made me laugh so hard. He's 76 now and hasn't changed since. He's the best Dad you could ever wish for.
People always tell me that they think of me when they hear CCR. I’m ok with that. I think of my big brother. He took me to my first concert ever. CCR at MSG in NYC. Every time I hear Creedence, I get to spend 3minutes with him. Sadly, he left the planet some 30 years ago.
When you've got talent like these guys, (and especially John Fogerty) all you need is a drummer, bass player, rhythm guitarist, and lead guitar. These four guys really put out some great sound!!!
They were great! One thing I can never get over is the fact they were from Northern California but sounded exactly like they just came out of a Louisiana bayou -- their voices and their incredible guitar playing. Probably one of the most unique bands I've ever heard in my life. I love their music to death! My all-time favorite song of theirs is, hands down, *_Green River._*
Группу Криденс, воспринимаю очень вежливо, и достойно ! В отличие от многих других групп того времени, исполняющих либеральную мякину, Криденс,понимает и воспринимает, молодежь нашего времени. Криденс -- божья искра, пять лет им хватило чтобы войти в историю !
When you spend 90% of your waking hours with the same guys day after day, egos an personalities are bound to clash. It is just part of being human. It does not take away from the fact that CCR was one of the best bands ever.
yet a lot of great bands do stay together for many years or part on amicable terms. begees, beatles, rolling stones, and many others stay together or part friendly.
If I was in a band that had a insanely charismatic vocalist, songwriter, composer with a voice that could raise the dead. I'd be thrilled if I was allowed to play 3 notes on a flute, on the album.
To be fair, George Harrison was in such a band with TWO such persons, and yet he pushed forward with his own ideas. Likewise, Bob Weir was in a band with such a person (Jerry Garcia), and yet he pushed forward.
@@IndyDefense The difference is George Harrison had been writing and singing songs since the Beatles started. The only songwriting talent in CCR WAS John Fogerty.
@@IndyDefense Bob and George honed their skills and talents as they went along. They didn't fight their leaders, they learned from them. They approached it as, "How do I make a bigger contribution to this band?"
@@monkmchorning That's true with George, but Bob was writing stuff from the very beginning, and then just sort of jumped right into it around '71, and then started pumping out tons of stuff. In CCR, the same was the case with Tom; He was writing from the beginning, and had sat and watched John do his thing, and was ready to contribute more songs than just "Walk on the Water". Now, I'm not saying his songs were anywhere near John's, but come on... he was the dude's brother. At least give him a song or two per album. Just look at all the filler that John threw into their trio of '69 albums. Tom had some stuff they could've tossed in there. As for Stu and Doug... there's less of a case, but I still think they could've been allowed one song per album like Ringo had. It's not like any of their stuff was going to be a single.
@@ExMachina70 He was the songwriter for sure, and a great “swamp rhythm” guitarist. But the other three were very competent musicians, and unfortunately JF would never accept their ideas for new songs. Even now, he’s still very much an ass.
Everybody l knew, had the ' COSMOS FACTORY ' album !! My Barber, would sing - ' LOOKING OUT MY BACKDOOR ' . Every song on it, was a hit !! If you want to place, something in my coffin, this is it !!
@@gator2813 Hey, Peckerhead! You should have been running things as far as band business! Maybe you should put up some of your credentials as far as management is concerned?
Without John Fogerty there would not have been a 'Creedence Clearwater Revival'. His writing and musical skills are why CCR is now a legendary band. Not to take anything away from the other 3 band members, but John Fogerty would have been just as successful with just about any bass player, rhythm guitarist, and drummer.
Always filled the dance floor when whatever band I was in at the time played Creedence songs. Fun to play, too! Still playing Creedence at Veteran and senior events, and they still packin the dance floor!
CCR is the group that got me into music. It always saddens me when I look back on what happened to them. Egos. Royalties. Writing credits, lawsuits, etc.. It boggles my mind that they could never make it work again after that. 7 albums in such a short time, 5 of them picture perfect records. Still my favorite rock 'n roll band, I always imagine what they could have been if they had stuck it out all the way through the 70's. That would've really been something.
Had the good fortune to be living in Sydney when John had a show at the Opera House back in 2005. His voice still rang like a bell, and he played all the hits. Forever grateful to have seen a legend of that calibre in his element when I'd thought that the chance had passed me by.
CCR was John Fogerty. I owned every LP, duplicated in cassettes and CDs when they came out. I've been listening to them since 9 years old and just turned 60. They will always be my favorite band.
I still listen to them since I first found them In the 80s when I was a kid. As soon as I was old enough I bought the individual albums of all my favorite classic rock bands. I now have over 15,000 cds but I burnt them to a hardrive hooked up to my home theater for easier acess
I don't know if it's still a thing or not, but my buddies uncle in North Georgia throws a festival every year called "John Fogerty Days"... Maybe check it out
It’s a shame how most rock bands ends up breaking up in such unpleasant terms, CCR were really fantastic live, of course John was the driving force and the brain, but Tom, Stu and Cosmo were energetic, solid and consistant, the band played as a whole without any of the instrument overshadowing the other as it’s sometimes the case in other bands, this is so rare, We can only admire what they accomplished in that little amount of time
I went to school with Tom's kids in Berkeley. The band was from the San Francisco East Bay (El Cerrito). My friend was in a band with Tom's son, Jeff. Tom was famous for having a stunning historic home in the Berkeley Hills. Fantasy Studio, where the band recorded, also moved to Berkeley from San Francisco in 1971. It's great to be a local with an epic band like this!
Despite being born post-2000, CCR have been my favorite band for a while. I've always wondered why they never reached big time until this video. If they were able to be together longer, I'm sure they would've reached more fame.
They were working under the yoke of a horrible promotional contract they signed without professional advice. The contract holder had the rights to ALL their music. At their peak the songs are selling like skyrockets---but they were only receiving starvation wages due to the horrible contract. John went to court trying to break free from the contract to no avail. They lost millions to the holder of the contract. Only a relatively few yers ago did they once again gain control of their music. Personal internal conflicts hurt them badly.
I still play their music, love Born on the Bayou, Put a Candle in the Window, Have You Ever Seen the Rain, Bad Moon Rising, Green River. They had a lot of good stuff, thanks to John.
Due to the long protracted legal battles, I'd completely given up hope of ever hearing the beloved CCR songs of my youth played live. I went to a John Fogerty concert a couple of years ago, not knowing quite what to expect, but there it was - that VOICE, like it was still 1967, bringing tears to my eyes, and to my surprise and joy he did play a good number of the classic CCR songs.
I bought an CCR album off the tv when l was ten, that was 45 years ago. They are still my favorite band. My favorite song is "As long as l can see the light".
You failed to point out an important aspect of Zandts' lawsuit against Fogerty for plagiarizing. The courts ruled that even though Zandt owned the original song, Fogerty being the songwriter, can't plagiarize himself. That prompted Fogerty to release a whole album of songs that sounded like CCR & named it Deja Vu.
I know, too weird being (allowed to) sued for sounding like yourself:):):) "I can't sound like me or I might be sued for sounding like me!!" Should've kept the case from even going to court.
@@markjackson6134 they should of all taken a page from guys like George and Ringo and all sorts of other band members that just sucked it up and be glad they were successful...Stones are a great example of how you can aggree to disagree and just more or less not ever permenantly disolve a good thing...the old "if it aint broke then..." .ya know?
Loved that band , have been a huge fan for years. Still play it volume x10 as a 66 year old!! Have many cd's. They kept me sane during my military service.!
Very unfortunate that there relationship turned into such a mess . Cannot under estimate the amazing talent John Fogerty has . I saw him in concert a few years ago. Incredible entertainer, played for over 2 hours and sounded awesome.
Brayden Dennison Fogerty got sued for sounding too much like fogerty his solo song they said sounded too much like a song he wrote for the group years before
John was the target. Blue Ridge Rangers, He did the whole thing by himself. I can see the other guys being frustrated. What did they have ? Not much, it seems.
Controversy... Every band had it's share. But simply put, CCR is one of the greatest bands of all time. The quality of songwriting and music was and will remain both dazzling and unique.
The songwriting was all John Fogerty, but the Creedence Clearwater sound was unique to that particular combo. Fogerty has never been able to recreate it without them.
@@DENVEROUTDOORMAN Perhaps you don't remember when their music first came out. Back then everybody was hot on Creedence even without all the radio hype. Here in the States CCR, Simon & Garfunkel, and The Beatles were THE soundtracks of the '60s and early '70s.
I was a butcher at a major grocery store chain and we had an apprentice who was about 25 yrs old.He came in from lunch and said he just got a new CD and it was fantastic! I asked him who the band was and he said," have you ever heard of Creedence Clearwater Revival?" I started laughing! And I said,"yeah, I think I've heard of them!"...
@@hhiippiittyy If you want to watch some twisted Australian humor, youtube "How to speak Australians" (exactly how it's spelt) Suggest you empty your bladder first.
My Dad was born in the 20s and mostly listened to old country music and instrumental guitar stuff like Chet Atkins , but he always had CCR tapes in his truck and in his workshop. He knew good rock music and appreciated it. I still have his 8 track of Cosmos Factory
I STILL REMEMBER HEARING THEM IN THE LATE 60'S WHEN I WAS ABOUT 15 YEARS OLD.....THE MUSIC NEVER LEFT ME, EVEN AFTER ALL THE OTHER GREAT ARTISTS OVER THE YEARS......BRINGS BACK MANY SPECIAL MEMORIES OF LONG GONE FRIENDS & TIMES!!
In his autobiography admits that he was autocratic. He plainly said "I just had more music in me than them." Blunt but true. He had the magic, as long as they did what they did what he said it worked and it worked REALLY WELL and they made musical history. Sometimes thats just that way it is. I'm sure it was frustrating for the others feeling that their ideas were not being used but it was clear the real talent was John, there's just no denying it.
While he might have been all the talent in the band that's no way to treat your family and friends. You can't just treat them like session musicians and expect them to be thankful for letting them hold onto your coattails
@@DjDolHaus86 True. It's understandable that they resented him. He basically told them exactly what to play, he heard it in his head and he instinctively knew what worked and he was right. But it would be hard to play in a band with a guy like that. Naturally you'd began to resent it. But at the same time you'd know that he seemed to have the magic that worked. It's interesting to see him play with his children. Basically it's the same thing, they play what he tells them and it works, but I don't know how much they enjoy it. LOL
It's all so sad. There's this thing called forgiveness...I recall playing Green River on the forty five. The sound just jumped out, and all the guitars sounded groovy.
I will say this I was in the music business for forty years out of my hometown of Nashville first as a roadie and retired on the booking end, Not many people in the business has anything good to say about JOHN FOGERTY AND JOKED ABOUT HIM SUING YOU FOR LOOKING AT HIM CROSSEYED He was not liked that much in Nashville and roadies refused to go on the road with him so from what I have heard his kids are now on the road with him, They say he has a problem by wanting to be in control of everything and as his brother said he wants to be the lord and master over us[ the band] down to telling us what to eat when to go to bed and said anyone thinking about marriage to forget it until he said you could,
@@zdcyclops1lickley190 No dude. As soon as an unsigned artist hired an attorney the record company didn't want anything to do wiith them. The music business in the 60's and 70's was racketering.
Fogerty was a genius song writer and he had the voice to go along with with his songs. The other members had their roles in the band and I'm sure JFogerty was difficult to deal with, but "don't shit where you eat my friends".
@@rjwintl JF was right. Those behind him were just back there getting rich from him and putting him down at same time, specially his jelous brother Tom fogerty..
John Fogerty was the goose that laid multiple golden eggs. His mojo was as powerful as the Beatles. All the members of CCR were talented but John Fogerty's amazing voice and great musicianship blew everyone away. I watched the complete set of CCR at Woodstock that John felt wasn't so hot. If that wasn't so hot, I'd like to see them when he thought they were. Musicians with super talent are still just humans going through all kinds of emotions. Remember that Roger Daltry doesn't listen to Who records because it just reminds him of fights and bad blood.
I don’t think John was not happy with the band’s performance @ Woodstock! What he wasn’t happy with is the “crowd” response to their performance! It was like 2 or 3 in the morning & everyone was either, drunk, high or asleep! There was not much response from the crowd! John was/ is very protective of the bands image & their music!
Try to inform yourself better. John forced them to do it or he menaces leave the band. You not burn the guys who worked with you so long just because you're talented in a childish bitch attitude.
@@chenzen191 I'm a vocalist and I put out two albums of my own as well as worked with other musicians mister, so dont tell me to inform myself. Their group album showed how untalented the other members were with their lackluster singing and writing skills. The songs were terrible, and Tom Fogerty's efforts went nowhere. John was a powerhouse writer and singer and to this day, guess what, he is still touring and selling albums and Credence Revisited has sold albums of what? JOHN'S SONGS. John made it alone and their efforts alone were very little. Possibly you should learn about talent before insulting others.
@@gennymikel4296 I don't care about who you are or what you do,i didn't insult anybody. But you don't know the history behind everything that happens. The instrument of the other musicians is drums,guitar,bass and not composing and lyrics. If he made everything alone as you says it then why his accomplishments are only memorable with the other guys as a band from 50 years ago? did you know that his first solo album kill his chances for like 10 years because nobody cares? that's because John Fogerty was the leader,not the band itself. Have respect for the work of the others cabrón.
@@chenzen191 I will not continue to argue with you. I was going to write a book on the band and spoke with them two decades ago. They declined. I was fine with that but did enjoy the conversation. Go find someone else to prove how much more you know than they do. I am done wasting my time arguing something that has zero to do with you. Have respect? Take your own advice. Good bye.
That's bullshit,Tom proved himself to be a good song writer and singer and Doug was a good song writer and singer also. Doug and Stu proved themselves to be great musicians as well as producers and strangers. John stiffeled the others creative ability
Actually, Tom Fogarty had a fairly successful band from the Bay Area called Ruby and they played the circuit fairly often ...Though nowhere near the fame of CCR, far from stocking Walmart shelves..
@@akgobears we're looking for #1's so John can kick rocks. He's a great songwriter and musician but just a horrible person to be in a band with. He should be ashamed.
Why Fogerty believes the Woodstock performance was terrible is beyond me because if you listen to the just released CD they are on fire during the show...I had no idea JF was such an excellent guitarist
Loved them then. Love them now. There are a few similarities between Fogerty and Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys: 1. Both are musical and lyrical geniuses. 2. Both are stubborn and uncompromising. 3. Both had brothers who tragically passed. 4. Both struggle[d] to make amends. 5. Both had "managers" who kept them on a leash: Sanetz for Fogerty and for Wilson, his own dad. 6. Both were/are misunderstood. 7. Both wrote music which remains timeless. 8. Both are still loved today by their fans.
What a sad, unfortunate tale..esp between the 2 brothers. I never knew it was that bad..& genuinely saddens my heart 2 know abt this. Always loved the orig band..as it was. 💗💗
I had all the early CCR 8 track cassettes,in my 67' GTO then my 69' GTO. The year was 1969, just graduated from high school,then thru the mid 70's. Loved these guys. Sad state of affairs,but similar story for nearly every rock band from then up to the present. Being in a rock band is harmful to your health,especially for lead singers.
I saw him after he won the lawsuit.... first concert...great woods in mass....my birthday.....he came out on stage and walked up to Mike and said...I found out today I can play my songs,it's been a long time and here it goes....he did suzi q.....I could not believe it......he then played everything......he was unreal....
My dad introduced me to creedence not that long ago. Now I’m a burning fan just like him, and I know that when he is gone I will always have this memory of him
I've been a fan of CCR since 1968 or so. A high school mate and I saw them live at Randwick Racecourse, Sydney in 1972 after paying $4.40 each for a ticket. My father was aghast that I would pay so much to see a rock and roll band. I'm still a massive fan of John. I think it's a huge shame that the guys can't bury the hatchet and reunite for a concert tour, and even maybe an album. None of us are getting any younger, and once they're gone, we won't get them back. Please, guys, do it for your fans!
John, I reckon the ticket seller saw you coming. I'm sure the price was $4.20. I was at that concert too, along with 17,000 other people. Daryl Braithwaite and Sherbet put on a good performance.
The key word is "back in the day." Enough with the reunion tour talk. Their music was terrific when it was a snapshot in history. Let's keep it that way
Exactly! I'm kinda tired of hearing it now, and I swear that if I ever have to listen to their version of "I Heard It Through The Grapevine" agin, I will slash my wrists. That 73-hour plod was rank rotten even "back in the day"!
I feel sorry for John Fogerty. His writing and voice made CCR famous. It earned them a massive amount of money. John is a unique and remarkable talent who is near solely responsible for creating those hits. The way he was swindled out of ownership and betrayed by his band is nothing but evil and greed. He is lucky he has remained healthy enough to last long in such a world. The years those song came out I was a boy living on a river in much simpler world. They have tremendous power to take me back.
I really didn't know there was a conflict between the group, but all I have to say is you play there songs and people will get up and dance even if they were kids, and teens in the 70s, I will always think they are icons of that time!
@@StanleyMes1 I believe you're right. Most the time it's probably best to keep emotions, and ego, and all that nonsense out of the "business" equation. As the "Godfather/Marlon Brando" once put it, “It’s not personal, Sonny. It’s strictly business.”
Many years ago I grew up listening to CCR and loved their music in Korea when I didn't spoke or understood English but man what a sound, better than the Beatles, three dog nights and the Rolling Stones and this was through a tiny transistor radio! Today I'm truly blessed to hear their classic recordings as they were meant to be. I love love John Fogerty!!
John wrote a song about his sadness at his brother leaving. It's one of my favorite CCR songs, it's on Pendulum, the track after Have You Ever Seen the Rain, called Wish I Could Hideaway.
The first record I ever bought was CCR's ' Down On The Corner ' , I was just a kid and my Mother gave me 35 cents to purchase the 45 record from the local SILCO store. That was around 1969. Every time I hear that song I think of her. That is the power of good music.
I had that album with that song....the album cover had the 10 speed bike....lookin out my back door ....I also had stepenwolf monster and blind faith then Paul's Mcartneys first album cant even remember the few others I owned....I just listened to em over and over and over on the old "Hi Fi" my dad gave me when he bought a stereo...that actually sounded really good even iif it was not a stereo...lol all my cash went to racing motorcycles and music was on a real budget
The 60s were great years as a kid and the music was pheonominal.
@@dougiequick1 we had that album too. My older brother bought it when the family bought our first "Hi-Fi. Loved that album. 1972, I was 10. Years later, bought their greatest hits on 8 track 😆and played it in my car.
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Sure was and I bought the same records here in County Durham England
The music they made in such a short time together is unbelievable
No, it's John Fogerty
@@davesmith3561 Do you mean the extraordinary music they produced was (largely or mainly) because of John Fogerty’s supreme talent? Well, I absolutely agree. However flawed his character, John was a unique musical genius.
@@Merry-ov7oo
Nearly all musical geniuses are like this.
Yes. And 99% of that was because of John Fogerty. I was a teenager in their days. And not one of us would’ve thought much about any of the other band members without John’s voice.
@@6teezkid and still, after the split, Fogerty's music lost it's shine. so maybe it was the sum of all parts?
I was at John fogerty concert in Toronto last Sunday! He was just amazing! Love that his sons are in his band now!
John is the voice!
saw J. Fogerty yesterday in Antwerp (Belgium). Great stuff
Saw him in Virginia ! Last night . He was amazing
has he tried to sue them yet?
Just saw John in concert :) 79 and great...he just got all his music back!!!
I am 67 years old and Creedence is the most often played CD in my truck. I never remove it for another. My favorite is "Bad Moon Rising", then "Have You Ever Seen the Rain" and finally "Looking Out My Back Door".
I’m 69 and CCR was the soundtrack to my coming of age.
40. And CCR was and is my favorite band of all time. I have a great iTunes list of CCR and similar bands that is perpetually on my phone.
Wrote a song for everyone is my all time favorite
Chaz: "Keep on Chooglin"
Great tunes and a great band.. totally unique sound and great lyricists..
I had a serious motorcycle accident in 2002 and spent two months in hospital , the pain and physiotherapy were torture , but CCR helped me get through it , playing on an old Walkman I would fall asleep with them playing in my ears , great band.
Same here except didn't have such bad accident. Loved my Walkman played CCR every night inland barge workover 7 and 7 triple joint drilling rig.
Just breaking-John won his songwriting credits back!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏✌️ after 50 YEARS!👏👏👏👏👏👏✌️
This is so cool to read, didn´t know that, he derserve them
John Fogerty doesn’t get nearly enough credit as a composer/songwriter. Proud Mary alone puts him amongst the greatest of all time.
Also a hell of a guitar player.
That is a song I put in the same category with bohemian rhapsody - good song but WAAAAYYYYY overplayed..
If I never hear it again it will be too soon...sorry!
But I LOVE all their other songs (esp. Green River & Run thru the Jungle)
@@neosturm5288 Those are both INCREDIBLE songs AND they are overplayed.
@@syfr John Fogerty is also quite a talented golfer, according to Bob Uecker.
turns out John was right, he was the writing and singing talent, and even his solo stuff is as good as the best of CCR. But still without a doubt, Creedence is still classic rock that cant fade away. its just to good.
When people that dont know what they are doing try to act like they know what they are doing, nothing gets done.
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See my post!👌👏
But after he left CCR he never had the same level of success. They had that special chemistry as a team. Even after Tom left, their live sound tanked because they never replaced him and they just went on as a 3-piece band. After that, they simply could not deliver the old songs without his rhythm guitar and backup vocals. They screwed up trying to forge ahead without replacing Tom. That shows John had a big head, in my opinion.
I'm quite sure this album was a case of John proving just your point to the other bandmates. LOL! I'm sure his plan was let them have their way on this one, it will certainly bomb, and then we can move on.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOHN FOGERTY!!!! 79 YEARS-OLD ON THIS DAY, MAY 28, 2024!!! God bless you John, and thank you for the great music you have given to the world!
I played in dance bands for years. If the set list was failing, we went straight to Creedence! Filled the floor every time!
My parent are 85 and 84, as a teen in early 70's they hooked me
Theres nothing wrong with being a bass player or drummer supporting a singular talent. Being a good teamate and solid pro while performing at a high level is just as honorable. I wish I had more schooling in identifying individual strengths and weaknesses. These guys formed a near perfect unit, and the tragedy is they didnt realize it.
This is a thing that is far more common in different genre's outside of rock 'n roll, playing other people's material and direction is a sore thumb for many musicians in rock 'n roll, where classical musicians will just play centuries old stuff without personal issue. Though I can definitely understand Tom felt rolled-over by his brother, that's not a good place to be in such a relationship.
I Concur
I agree, however being the true talent of any group or organization doesn't justify being an absolute jerk to your family, friends, and workmates. Over the years I've seen business groups be very successful for a while but eventually imploding once politics and tyranny took over.
@@danbradley7176 The Rolling Stones should give seminars.
I love John Fogerty and have for years. I have seen him live a number of times and he always comes across as a bit of a douche. I suspect he may not have been the most awesome person to hang around. I hope I'm wrong. He's still a legend and an awesome song writer.
No matter which way you looked at it Fogerty WAS CCR. His voice was iconic. Seriously he could have played with any support musicians to be great. Who remembers the others?
Very true. John Fogerty was more to CCR than Sting was to The Police.
...and he does with his sons and daughter as good as the original.
The other three were just jealous fools. It's not like the Beatles where you have three legitimate song writers that successfully went their own separate ways.
Now you're thinking just like him😅
Growing up in the early 70s, I'd watch my mom wait until my dad left for work, then she'd go into the attic and get out her Stones and CCR LPs to play on our 'console' record player. I knew all the words to their songs by the time I was 6. As a drummer, the first song I ever learned was Suzie Q (Yes, I know it was a Dale Hawkins remake). That started a 40-year career in music. I still credit CCR as my first inspiration.
I worked behind the scenes with the bands for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame shows. There were rehearsals in Cleveland Ohio for about two weeks prior to the induction ceremony and concert. Fogerty was the only member of CCR who was ever planned for rehearsals. I remember him walking into the studio, with the house band, led by Booker T. and the MG's, the Memphis Horns, and Donald 'Duck' Dunn. Fogerty brought a CD with him: "CCR's Greatest Hits", and with only a few words, popped it into a boom box, skipping through the tracks to find the ones he wanted to play for the show. As he found each track he tried to play along with "himself' on the CD to refresh on how to play the track. As a testament to the legendary musicians who were the house band, they picked up the tunes themselves after one or two run throughs. Legends, every one..
Well, those guys, hell yeah! They needed TWO run throughs??? lol
Well, hell- any seasoned musician who by now cannot dust off a few classic CCR tunes in one or two run-throughs isn't even worth their own weight.
John was the man!
To me, John Forgerty is a very good songwriter and has a great voice while playing his guitar. Terrific, Talented man of all time.
Fogerty is CCR and will always be
The other cling ons shouldve just been happy to be involved. Untalented hacks couldve and SHOULDVE been replaced before they made it big. John was the brain and heartbeat.
The most amazing thing they ever did imo. Was their version of I HEARD IT THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE. The 11 minute album version is something VERY SPECIAL. And should be as revered as anything in rock history.
Totally agree. It has a haunting sound to it esp with the thump of the floot tom over and over.
Thanks for reminding me of it. I've not listened to it for 50 years. Will go to it now.
Amen to that.
I was surprised when CCR recorded a Motown song.
first song I ever downloaded.
Very sad. Tears in my eyes that both brothers would let it get, and stay, so bitter, literally to THE END. I love the music; I was in love with a girl named Susan Quinn so "Susie Q", I felt, was made for me! Thanks for your work on this! Blessings!
Wonderful to hear about John still working, playing and performing with his sons. Congratulations to him (and his sons).
My Dad loved them, I remember him sitting in the study with his headphones on and singing at the top of his voice and my Mum saying to me “could you go and tell your father to close the door, I can’t hear the television”. Makes me laugh just to think about it. Can’t listen to a CCR song without remembering my Dad.
My sons are 5 and 8 and I sing all the songs to them. When I'm gone I hope they listen on 😇
That is amazing Kerry Wykes. My dad didn't have a study yet he did the same thing in our living room. My parents divorced around 1980 and my old man moved down the road. Funny thing In 85 Fogerty released 'The old man down the road'. My dad sang that shit at the top of his lungs.
Very sweet.
Those sound like fun memories. When my dad came home from work and had a few beers, he used to put on Cosmo's Factory and start dancing like a crazy man in the living room. It drove my Mom up the wall but I must have been about five years old, sitting on the couch watching him dance. He always made me laugh so hard. He's 76 now and hasn't changed since. He's the best Dad you could ever wish for.
People always tell me that they think of me when they hear CCR. I’m ok with that. I think of my big brother. He took me to my first concert ever. CCR at MSG in NYC. Every time I hear Creedence, I get to spend 3minutes with him. Sadly, he left the planet some 30 years ago.
When you've got talent like these guys, (and especially John Fogerty) all you need is a drummer, bass player, rhythm guitarist, and lead guitar. These four guys really put out some great sound!!!
CCR was my favorite band during my high school years, 1967 thru 1971. Had all their albums.
My parents loved these guys, and tbh so do I. Classic, quality music.
Hits the soul
They have about 40 amazing songs in 3 years unbelievable
They were great! One thing I can never get over is the fact they were from Northern California but sounded exactly like they just came out of a Louisiana bayou -- their voices and their incredible guitar playing. Probably one of the most unique bands I've ever heard in my life. I love their music to death! My all-time favorite song of theirs is, hands down, *_Green River._*
Mine too, with Commotion a close second.
they do seem kinda California okie. and look it. John looks like my ex. Same clothes too.
Группу Криденс, воспринимаю очень вежливо, и достойно ! В отличие от многих других групп того времени, исполняющих либеральную мякину, Криденс,понимает и воспринимает, молодежь нашего времени.
Криденс -- божья искра, пять лет им хватило чтобы войти в историю !
When you spend 90% of your waking hours with the same guys day after day, egos an personalities are bound to clash. It is just part of being human. It does not take away from the fact that CCR was one of the best bands ever.
yet a lot of great bands do stay together for many years or part on amicable terms. begees, beatles, rolling stones, and many others stay together or part friendly.
@@fefferryerr1818 much more rare
@@jibjones1233 John was the man!
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WELL SAID
Creedence is my favorite go to band when I am a bit down, always lifts me up.
If I was in a band that had a insanely charismatic vocalist, songwriter, composer with a voice that could raise the dead. I'd be thrilled if I was allowed to play 3 notes on a flute, on the album.
They probably had a couple stupid people telling them in the background they were really the talented ones lol.
To be fair, George Harrison was in such a band with TWO such persons, and yet he pushed forward with his own ideas. Likewise, Bob Weir was in a band with such a person (Jerry Garcia), and yet he pushed forward.
@@IndyDefense The difference is George Harrison had been writing and singing songs since the Beatles started. The only songwriting talent in CCR WAS John Fogerty.
@@IndyDefense Bob and George honed their skills and talents as they went along. They didn't fight their leaders, they learned from them. They approached it as, "How do I make a bigger contribution to this band?"
@@monkmchorning That's true with George, but Bob was writing stuff from the very beginning, and then just sort of jumped right into it around '71, and then started pumping out tons of stuff. In CCR, the same was the case with Tom; He was writing from the beginning, and had sat and watched John do his thing, and was ready to contribute more songs than just "Walk on the Water". Now, I'm not saying his songs were anywhere near John's, but come on... he was the dude's brother. At least give him a song or two per album. Just look at all the filler that John threw into their trio of '69 albums. Tom had some stuff they could've tossed in there. As for Stu and Doug... there's less of a case, but I still think they could've been allowed one song per album like Ringo had. It's not like any of their stuff was going to be a single.
For guys who ended up hating each other they sure sounded sweet together.
Thx to the only guy who had all the talent.
@@ExMachina70 The same guy who pissed away all of the rest of the bands money by making stupid business decisions.
@@ExMachina70 He was the songwriter for sure, and a great “swamp rhythm” guitarist. But the other three were very competent musicians, and unfortunately JF would never accept their ideas for new songs. Even now, he’s still very much an ass.
Everybody l knew, had the ' COSMOS FACTORY ' album !! My Barber, would sing - ' LOOKING OUT MY BACKDOOR ' . Every song on it, was a hit !! If you want to place, something in my coffin, this is it !!
@@gator2813 Hey, Peckerhead! You should have been running things as far as band business! Maybe you should put up some of your credentials as far as management is concerned?
Timeless songs…that can and must never be forgotten..
Just look at the post-CCR music careers each member had, gives an idea of who the real talent in CCR was
Without John Fogerty there would not have been a 'Creedence Clearwater Revival'. His writing and musical skills are why CCR is now a legendary band. Not to take anything away from the other 3 band members, but John Fogerty would have been just as successful with just about any bass player, rhythm guitarist, and drummer.
Talent and perseverance are seperate traits.
True. It ain't rocket science! LOL!!
Without John.....There is NO Creedence......Period!!!
No doubt.
I agree
@Fred Wright Sorry Freddy...."Little" Johnny was..Actually "BIG" Johnny in that band and...They knew it!!!!!
@@newspapertaxis1 big ego johnny is an ass
@Jeff B It's well documented...John WAS
the man in the band.......NOT the man in the Van.......as in YOUR case......
Always filled the dance floor when whatever band I was in at the time played Creedence songs. Fun to play, too! Still playing Creedence at Veteran and senior events, and they still packin the dance floor!
CCR is the group that got me into music. It always saddens me when I look back on what happened to them. Egos. Royalties. Writing credits, lawsuits, etc.. It boggles my mind that they could never make it work again after that. 7 albums in such a short time, 5 of them picture perfect records. Still my favorite rock 'n roll band, I always imagine what they could have been if they had stuck it out all the way through the 70's. That would've really been something.
Had the good fortune to be living in Sydney when John had a show at the Opera House back in 2005. His voice still rang like a bell, and he played all the hits. Forever grateful to have seen a legend of that calibre in his element when I'd thought that the chance had passed me by.
I also was there in Sydney.... great venue for a living legend :) and sounded great !
CCR was John Fogerty. I owned every LP, duplicated in cassettes and CDs when they came out. I've been listening to them since 9 years old and just turned 60. They will always be my favorite band.
I still listen to them since I first found them In the 80s when I was a kid. As soon as I was old enough I bought the individual albums of all my favorite classic rock bands. I now have over 15,000 cds but I burnt them to a hardrive hooked up to my home theater for easier acess
I am also listing to CCR songs since I am 11 years old. Now I am 60 and the music of CCR hasn ˋ t lost power for me through all the years!!!
I don't know if it's still a thing or not, but my buddies uncle in North Georgia throws a festival every year called "John Fogerty Days"... Maybe check it out
Yah, my family is into music. Ill see what I can find.
Or was it John Fogerty was CCR? With out him right....people would be asking, " who is CCR"...I know what you mean and fully agree. I'm 57.
It’s a shame how most rock bands ends up breaking up in such unpleasant terms,
CCR were really fantastic live, of course John was the driving force and the brain, but Tom, Stu and Cosmo were energetic, solid and consistant, the band played as a whole without any of the instrument overshadowing the other as it’s sometimes the case in other bands, this is so rare,
We can only admire what they accomplished in that little amount of time
I went to school with Tom's kids in Berkeley. The band was from the San Francisco East Bay (El Cerrito). My friend was in a band with Tom's son, Jeff. Tom was famous for having a stunning historic home in the Berkeley Hills. Fantasy Studio, where the band recorded, also moved to Berkeley from San Francisco in 1971. It's great to be a local with an epic band like this!
Great to hear!👍
My dad has had 4 strokes this year. His goal is to make it to his 74th birthday and make it to the CCR Concert in Vegas. 🙏🏽💙🙏🏽
And may he complete that goal.🙏
I hope he does,my father wanted to make it to his birthday/fathers day be passed the day after.🙏🇦🇺
He better make it to that concert i’d honestly just be mad if he doesn’t, that man better be ok
@@oddouriibit I hope so too. He is so excited. We arrive Friday. Concert Saturday night 🙌🏽
@2008 Ransom thank you for the encouraging words. You made my evening ❗️
Despite being born post-2000, CCR have been my favorite band for a while. I've always wondered why they never reached big time until this video. If they were able to be together longer, I'm sure they would've reached more fame.
They were working under the yoke of a horrible promotional contract they signed without professional advice. The contract holder had the rights to ALL their music. At their peak the songs are selling like skyrockets---but they were only receiving starvation wages due to the horrible contract. John went to court trying to break free from the contract to no avail. They lost millions to the holder of the contract. Only a relatively few yers ago did they once again gain control of their music. Personal internal conflicts hurt them badly.
In the late 1960s CCR was the hottest group on the radio. All my friends & I loved them.
I love them.
In my day they were VERY famous!!
They did make the big time. They were arguably the biggest band in the world at their peak.
Born 1979. CCR is my favorit band. I love the music, everytime, everywhere, in every shape.
I can readily appreciate your good taste in excellent sounds.
That band wouldn’t have been anything special without John Fogerty!
keep your ego in check though
Have you ever seen the rain remains one of my favourite songs. Down on the corner too.
I still play their music, love Born on the Bayou, Put a Candle in the Window, Have You Ever Seen the Rain, Bad Moon Rising, Green River. They had a lot of good stuff, thanks to John.
Put a Candle in the Window is actually part of the lyrics. the actual titled is "Long as I can see the light"
Bor on The Bayou could listen all the time
@@stevenaragon4412 one of my favorites. I had forgotten about it until I read this.
Due to the long protracted legal battles, I'd completely given up hope of ever hearing the beloved CCR songs of my youth played live. I went to a John Fogerty concert a couple of years ago, not knowing quite what to expect, but there it was - that VOICE, like it was still 1967, bringing tears to my eyes, and to my surprise and joy he did play a good number of the classic CCR songs.
funny thing is that if you closed your eyes and him and Tom were each singing the same song, you could not tell them apart.
@@sidcostello7532 Tom said I can sing but John had A Sound.
....and he was pretty good with a shotgun on the ducks.
John is the MAN!
Summer of 1969 was the best music of CCR .Thanks guys. Still rocking to the sound. 😊👍
I bought an CCR album off the tv when l was ten, that was 45 years ago. They are still my favorite band. My favorite song is "As long as l can see the light".
Darrin Nuner, maybe the best vocal ever by John Fogerty on that song. Overlooked or unknown by most people, but such a GREAT song.
@ Darrin Nuner - Mine too ! Recorded so clearly, in my head, l can "Listen" to it ..ANYTIME !!
mine is It Came Out Of The Sky
Best song from CCR; there´s a fantastic live version on youtube.
You failed to point out an important aspect of Zandts' lawsuit against Fogerty for plagiarizing. The courts ruled that even though Zandt owned the original song, Fogerty being the songwriter, can't plagiarize himself. That prompted Fogerty to release a whole album of songs that sounded like CCR & named it Deja Vu.
Payback is a mother.
I know, too weird being (allowed to) sued for sounding like yourself:):):) "I can't sound like me or I might be sued for sounding like me!!" Should've kept the case from even going to court.
aka "Poetic Justice" Pun intended
@@markjackson6134 Hate can get so blind a whole lot of noses end up bitten off by their own face's vicious teeth
@@markjackson6134 they should of all taken a page from guys like George and Ringo and all sorts of other band members that just sucked it up and be glad they were successful...Stones are a great example of how you can aggree to disagree and just more or less not ever permenantly disolve a good thing...the old "if it aint broke then..." .ya know?
I still play his music almost everyday. For veterans Fortunate Son stays with us.
He's playing in St Augutine in July he will be amazing
Loved that band , have been a huge fan for years. Still play it volume x10 as a 66 year old!! Have many cd's. They kept me sane during my military service.!
Well, as an 82 year old ex-Englishman, I am the same (NB I am now proudly French! Bastille Day and all that?)
I grew up listening to CCR.
Did ya!?
@@MtnLiner yes I grew up during the 80's and my mom had their albums.
@Lacy Inmon have you been John live concert??
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Very unfortunate that there relationship turned into such a mess . Cannot under estimate the amazing talent John Fogerty has . I saw him in concert a few years ago. Incredible entertainer, played for over 2 hours and sounded awesome.
He is almost 80 years old and his voice is still strong and solid. For me, his rock is just as fresh today as it was in the beginning!
The band I love the most has the saddest history.
I'm saddened by their story, too.
However, read about the band Badfinger. That story might be worse.
Yes I know them. You are right, their story are worse.
@@Dulcimerist What about Viola Beach ? I think their story might be the most tragic.
@@Dulcimerist CCR & Badfinger are two of my favorite bands. I’m fortunate to have met all the members of both a bands and recorded with some of them.
Top 5 for me and yeah, it sucks.
Got to see Fogerty in concert when he could finally play his own songs again, wouldn't have missed it for the world.
I envy you. That must have been very special.
"Born on the Bayou" is my favorite, and I doubt any other band could do it justice.
The only band to get sued for sounding too much like themselves
Ikr? I think it was only John Fogerty...who is...was...and always will be Creedence Clearwater Revival...
Fogerty was sued.
Brayden Dennison Fogerty got sued for sounding too much like fogerty his solo song they said sounded too much like a song he wrote for the group years before
John was the target. Blue Ridge Rangers, He did the whole thing by himself.
I can see the other guys being frustrated. What did they have ? Not much, it seems.
And on the flip side, neil young got sued for not sounding like himself enough.
I love CCR! We listen to their greatest hits every Sunday during game night! Such a sad story to such an amazing group!
Controversy... Every band had it's share. But simply put, CCR is one of the greatest bands of all time. The quality of songwriting and music was and will remain both dazzling and unique.
Yep, Swamp Rock rules.
no
The songwriting was all John Fogerty, but the Creedence Clearwater sound was unique to that particular combo. Fogerty has never been able to recreate it without them.
No its nice just top 40 overplayed and over hyped
@@DENVEROUTDOORMAN Perhaps you don't remember when their music first came out. Back then everybody was hot on Creedence even without all the radio hype. Here in the States CCR, Simon & Garfunkel, and The Beatles were THE soundtracks of the '60s and early '70s.
I was a butcher at a major grocery store chain and we had an apprentice who was about 25 yrs old.He came in from lunch and said he just got a new CD and it was fantastic! I asked him who the band was and he said," have you ever heard of Creedence Clearwater Revival?" I started laughing! And I said,"yeah, I think I've heard of them!"...
I had a young coworker excitedly tell me I "should check out a guy named Monty Python, he does some really funny stuff, I've heard".
I heard that salad dressing guy Paul Newman used to be a totally famous actor
@@hhiippiittyy If you want to watch some twisted Australian humor, youtube "How to speak Australians" (exactly how it's spelt) Suggest you empty your bladder first.
I can't stop lmfao. Thanks for that.
butcher ugh
My Dad was born in the 20s and mostly listened to old country music and instrumental guitar stuff like Chet Atkins , but he always had CCR tapes in his truck and in his workshop. He knew good rock music and appreciated it. I still have his 8 track of Cosmos Factory
Keep your Beatles and Stones give me Creedence Clearwater Revival any day.
I STILL REMEMBER HEARING THEM IN THE LATE 60'S WHEN I WAS ABOUT 15 YEARS OLD.....THE MUSIC NEVER LEFT ME, EVEN AFTER ALL THE OTHER GREAT ARTISTS OVER THE YEARS......BRINGS BACK MANY SPECIAL MEMORIES OF LONG GONE FRIENDS & TIMES!!
ur caps lock is on, homeslice
why you shouting at me bro?
@@TheUA-camUser69 he might be hearing impaired. If he was 15 in the late 60s at least 67 now.
Gary Fricke best reply I've heard all morning. Thanks
In his autobiography admits that he was autocratic. He plainly said "I just had more music in me than them." Blunt but true. He had the magic, as long as they did what they did what he said it worked and it worked REALLY WELL and they made musical history. Sometimes thats just that way it is. I'm sure it was frustrating for the others feeling that their ideas were not being used but it was clear the real talent was John, there's just no denying it.
John Fogerty, Paul Simon, and Paul McCartney are 3 of the best songwriters of our Era.
Oh yea- it’s all about the dam drummer
@@jamesf7867 and Neil Young and Jim Morrison !
While he might have been all the talent in the band that's no way to treat your family and friends. You can't just treat them like session musicians and expect them to be thankful for letting them hold onto your coattails
@@DjDolHaus86 True. It's understandable that they resented him. He basically told them exactly what to play, he heard it in his head and he instinctively knew what worked and he was right. But it would be hard to play in a band with a guy like that. Naturally you'd began to resent it. But at the same time you'd know that he seemed to have the magic that worked. It's interesting to see him play with his children. Basically it's the same thing, they play what he tells them and it works, but I don't know how much they enjoy it. LOL
I learned a long time ago, The hardest part of being in a band, is keeping it together.
Well, our rule of thumb became: Don't get band pictures! Lol.. that usually led immediately to the demise of the band!
It's all so sad. There's this thing called forgiveness...I recall playing Green River on the forty five. The sound just jumped out, and all the guitars sounded groovy.
Yep we bought the 45 of Green River. I never tire of those songs.
Agreed! The layering of the guitars on that track is sweet!
Haha..groovy
My fav band.... I still have the CDs and always listening while driving.....
Down the road you go! Ramble Tamble! :D
Cosmo's Factory was a staple in the 70's blasting out of the Mind Blower speakers in my truck.
Record companies were always crooked and took advantage of artists.
Saul Zants was worse than any other label. He truly ripped off Fogarty for the composers rights.
I will say this I was in the music business for forty years out of my hometown of Nashville first as a roadie and retired on the booking end, Not many people in the business has anything good to say about JOHN FOGERTY AND JOKED ABOUT HIM SUING YOU FOR LOOKING AT HIM CROSSEYED He was not liked that much in Nashville and roadies refused to go on the road with him so from what I have heard his kids are now on the road with him, They say he has a problem by wanting to be in control of everything and as his brother said he wants to be the lord and master over us[ the band] down to telling us what to eat when to go to bed and said anyone thinking about marriage to forget it until he said you could,
@@whiskeyrun4996 Wow.....Interesting.....was he always like that? Or did he become embittered through being ripped off?
No. Artists were stupid and didn't hire a lawyer. You can't force someone to sign a contract.
@@zdcyclops1lickley190 No dude. As soon as an unsigned artist hired an attorney the record company didn't want anything to do wiith them. The music business in the 60's and 70's was racketering.
Fogerty was a genius song writer and he had the voice to go along with with his songs. The other members had their roles in the band and I'm sure JFogerty was difficult to deal with, but "don't shit where you eat my friends".
By Ween
You need a great melody and strong songwriting to produce a hit. CCR had that on all their songs.
Evidently folks don’t get-it that for us Irish , once you get on our shit list , you stay on our shit list !!!
@@rjwintl JF was right. Those behind him were just back there getting rich from him and putting him down at same time, specially his jelous brother Tom fogerty..
Sibling rivalry undercut the band and poisoned the other members
John Fogerty was the goose that laid multiple golden eggs. His mojo was as powerful as the Beatles. All the members of CCR were talented but John Fogerty's amazing voice and great musicianship blew everyone away. I watched the complete set of CCR at Woodstock that John felt wasn't so hot. If that wasn't so hot, I'd like to see them when he thought they were. Musicians with super talent are still just humans going through all kinds of emotions. Remember that Roger Daltry doesn't listen to Who records because it just reminds him of fights and bad blood.
I don’t think John was not happy with the band’s performance @ Woodstock! What he wasn’t happy with is the “crowd” response to their performance! It was like 2 or 3 in the morning & everyone was either, drunk, high or asleep! There was not much response from the crowd! John was/ is very protective of the bands image & their music!
When the others got to write and sing they proved John was the power behind the band. Neither of the others could sing or write as well.
Try to inform yourself better. John forced them to do it or he menaces leave the band.
You not burn the guys who worked with you so long just because you're talented in a childish bitch attitude.
@@chenzen191 I'm a vocalist and I put out two albums of my own as well as worked with other musicians mister, so dont tell me to inform myself. Their group album showed how untalented the other members were with their lackluster singing and writing skills. The songs were terrible, and Tom Fogerty's efforts went nowhere.
John was a powerhouse writer and singer and to this day, guess what, he is still touring and selling albums and Credence Revisited has sold albums of what? JOHN'S SONGS. John made it alone and their efforts alone were very little.
Possibly you should learn about talent before insulting others.
@@gennymikel4296 I don't care about who you are or what you do,i didn't insult anybody.
But you don't know the history behind everything that happens.
The instrument of the other musicians is drums,guitar,bass and not composing and lyrics.
If he made everything alone as you says it then why his accomplishments are only memorable with the other guys as a band from 50 years ago? did you know that his first solo album kill his chances for like 10 years because nobody cares?
that's because John Fogerty was the leader,not the band itself.
Have respect for the work of the others cabrón.
@@chenzen191 I will not continue to argue with you. I was going to write a book on the band and spoke with them two decades ago. They declined. I was fine with that but did enjoy the conversation. Go find someone else to prove how much more you know than they do. I am done wasting my time arguing something that has zero to do with you. Have respect? Take your own advice. Good bye.
That's bullshit,Tom proved himself to be a good song writer and singer and Doug was a good song writer and singer also. Doug and Stu proved themselves to be great musicians as well as producers and strangers. John stiffeled the others creative ability
Creedence was John Fogarty, period! The other members including John’s brother would be stocking shelves at Walmart if it wasn’t for John.
Actually, Tom Fogarty had a fairly successful band from the Bay Area called Ruby and they played the circuit fairly often ...Though nowhere near the fame of CCR, far from stocking Walmart shelves..
Agree
@Charles Gosnell They had a couple songs they used to air on local FM stations...Not sure that qualifies as the ""hit"" your looking for...
@@akgobears we're looking for #1's so John can kick rocks. He's a great songwriter and musician but just a horrible person to be in a band with. He should be ashamed.
@Charles Gosnell some of us think it takes an entire band to make a great song though. It’s not just John making the sound of their music.
My mom played these songs for us as kids. She loved CCR and now we all do. I'll continue this tradition and show the young ones as my mom did for us
To my ears, "Born on the Bayou" is the best song ever written. I still like to put on the headphones and lose myself for 5 minutes on the bayou.
"Son, don't let the Man get you and do what they done to me..."
I could agree that choice, if it weren't for Ramble Tamble.
"Say again Sam." That sound will never die my friend.
Amazing Song!
Why Fogerty believes the Woodstock performance was terrible is beyond me because if you listen to the just released CD they are on fire during the show...I had no idea JF was such an excellent guitarist
Saw John Forgerty 2 days ago. He played with 2 of his sons. The man still has it. And yes heard it thru the grape vine was the highlight
Talk man! Need to know how it was?
Was lucky enough to see CCR perform back in the early 70's in Toronto at Maple Leaf Gardens.
None of these guys would have amounted to anything near what they achieved without John Fogerty. Period!
As true a statement as has ever been said.
True, but if you’re not happy, all the money in the world is meaningless.
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John was CCR !
Stu and Doug can't write, sing or play guitar to save themselves.
@@jimmy5634 you might not be happy but having money sure makes being miserable a lot more bearable.
Loved them then. Love them now. There are a few similarities between Fogerty and Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys: 1. Both are musical and lyrical geniuses. 2. Both are stubborn and uncompromising. 3. Both had brothers who tragically passed. 4. Both struggle[d] to make amends. 5. Both had "managers" who kept them on a leash: Sanetz for Fogerty and for Wilson, his own dad.
6. Both were/are misunderstood. 7. Both wrote music which remains timeless. 8. Both are still loved today by their fans.
Agree.
What a sad, unfortunate tale..esp between the 2 brothers. I never knew it was that bad..& genuinely saddens my heart 2 know abt this. Always loved the orig band..as it was. 💗💗
I had all the early CCR 8 track cassettes,in my 67' GTO then my 69' GTO.
The year was 1969, just graduated from high school,then thru the mid 70's.
Loved these guys.
Sad state of affairs,but similar story for nearly every rock band from then up to the present.
Being in a rock band is harmful to your health,especially for lead singers.
Please tell me you still have the GTO! :)
CCR, one of my all time favorite bands.
Lawyers made a lot of money and fanned the flames of hate!
Lawyers dont do anything their clients arent asking them to do.
@@rticle15 Lawyers are very good at fanning the flames of hate.
@@rticle15 Bullcrap.
@@6StimuL84 In fact, their clients pay them a lot of money to do it. Without a client, there is no lawsuit.
@@rticle15You mean their victims.
I saw him after he won the lawsuit.... first concert...great woods in mass....my birthday.....he came out on stage and walked up to Mike and said...I found out today I can play my songs,it's been a long time and here it goes....he did suzi q.....I could not believe it......he then played everything......he was unreal....
No....way....are....you....serious?....You....gotta....tell....that....story....again....That....is....unbelievable....
My dad introduced me to creedence not that long ago. Now I’m a burning fan just like him, and I know that when he is gone I will always have this memory of him
I've been a fan of CCR since 1968 or so. A high school mate and I saw them live at Randwick Racecourse, Sydney in 1972 after paying $4.40 each for a ticket. My father was aghast that I would pay so much to see a rock and roll band. I'm still a massive fan of John. I think it's a huge shame that the guys can't bury the hatchet and reunite for a concert tour, and even maybe an album. None of us are getting any younger, and once they're gone, we won't get them back. Please, guys, do it for your fans!
John, I reckon the ticket seller saw you coming. I'm sure the price was $4.20. I was at that concert too, along with 17,000 other people. Daryl Braithwaite and Sherbet put on a good performance.
@@aussiewattle4299 You could be right. For some reason $4.40 stuck in my head. Either way, great concert.
althrough John made a lot a good albums after the CCR era...he never could get back the " magic touch " ...and the magic sound....
Blue Moon Swamp? Won Best Rock Album Grammy
The sound of CCR was created by four man, When Tom left the band early 1971, you can clearly hear that his rhytym gitar "live" is missing.
After Cosmos Factory it was over, Pendulum was good but not so brillliant as Bayou Country, Willie and the Poor Boys, Green River.
@@laj043 Over-produced shite. Grammys are popularity contests.
maybe the other members of CCR had a bigger contribution that it seemed.
It's not only music...it's a healing therapy
We played Doug's daughters wedding on Maui, what a cool guy and superb drummer!
The other 3 had it made so stupid it John everyone wanted to hear not 3 who couldn’t sing or write
Doug is a great drummer loved his explanation of the SuzieQ beat!
Im 68 graduated in 1971 ccr was fantastic
Best music that year...Tull,who,Zep,Stones,Yes,etc
Got to take my son to see John in Dublin last year.
Thank you for coming to Ireland!
Too bad inflated egos had to wreck a great band. I've always loved CCR.
Egos ALWAYS destroy bands.
More like delusions of grandeur. John was the genius.
It wasn't egos, it was Stu, Doug, and Tom! Fools!
Yep.. It wasn't fogerty with the ego.. He never should have let those 2 wannabes put their songs on that album..
@@dustyrustymusty3577 Beatles. ?
The key word is "back in the day." Enough with the reunion tour talk. Their music was terrific when it was a snapshot in history. Let's keep it that way
Exactly! I'm kinda tired of hearing it now, and I swear that if I ever have to listen to their version of "I Heard It Through The Grapevine" agin, I will slash my wrists. That 73-hour plod was rank rotten even "back in the day"!
@@Ndlanding how can you be tired of hearing ccr wow I listen to them every day
Agreed. CCR hasn't been relevant in my lifetime and I'm 50 years old.
I can remember listening to CCR on my dad's old 8-track tapes as a kid. Loved listening to bad moon rising.
I feel sorry for John Fogerty. His writing and voice made CCR famous. It earned them a massive amount of money. John is a unique and remarkable talent who is near solely responsible for creating those hits. The way he was swindled out of ownership and betrayed by his band is nothing but evil and greed. He is lucky he has remained healthy enough to last long in such a world. The years those song came out I was a boy living on a river in much simpler world. They have tremendous power to take me back.
thank you
His band mates turned out to be scumbags.
Yeah......... but hes is still worth 90 million.... I dont shed a tear for him.
Love your comment
I really didn't know there was a conflict between the group, but all I have to say is you play there songs and people will get up and dance even if they were kids, and teens in the 70s, I will always think they are icons of that time!
I grew up with these guys..their music is timeless...sad that they had to let such a little bit of B.S. break them up....
Greed and ego, a familiar tale.
Sure is!
Bingo. You nailed it.
Thats my favorite album from them
His narrative reads like a blamefest. JF has only himself to blame.
@@StanleyMes1 I believe you're right. Most the time it's probably best to keep emotions, and ego, and all that nonsense out of the "business" equation. As the "Godfather/Marlon Brando" once put it, “It’s not personal, Sonny. It’s strictly business.”
I liked rock from forever and for some reasons i have found CCR last. Now after all those years i listen mostly to CCR. Nothing else matters.
Many years ago I grew up listening to CCR and loved their music in Korea when I didn't spoke or understood English but man what a sound, better than the Beatles, three dog nights and the Rolling Stones and this was through a tiny transistor radio! Today I'm truly blessed to hear their classic recordings as they were meant to be. I love love John Fogerty!!
Better than the Beatles?? 🤔
@@jaycastle3030 yes, thru a transistor radio, CCR would have a better sound no doubt.
John wrote a song about his sadness at his brother leaving. It's one of my favorite CCR songs, it's on Pendulum, the track after Have You Ever Seen the Rain, called Wish I Could Hideaway.