Lmao thanks! I feel like more guides should show minimum or lower tier gear to prove its doable and provide examples to what an average players trips should look like instead of maximum efficiency. It makes it more understandable and shows that it is possible for those with less on their account, also allowing for more inspiration to actually do things like the fight caves. Before learning the fight caves and making this guide I thought blowpipe was a requirement, but over time I switched to the Karils crossbow and eventually to the msb(I), it’s just about perspective which I’m happy you acknowledged. Good luck on getting your cape and your future rs endeavors!
@@Karlsonsk Exactly. It also helps morale cause if you state in the guide that it CAN be done and then proceed to do it with BP and Armadyl and then the player watching the guides tries with the minimum gear and is struggling it discourages them. It may also cause the effect of the person watching to question the integratory of the video and methods presented.
@@762Faneto In terms of dps yes, but for cost and if you are an ironman cause of the grind not really. Your ava's does not save karils boltracks so you would need a very very large amount of them for the cave.
@@Karlsonsk thanks for the quick reply man but yeah I'm an iron, bolt racks aren't too expensive to just buy though. Id imagine I'd probably use around 1-2k bolt racks per run right?
This is probably the best recent guide. I'm not an ironman but it talks a lot more about tactics than a lot of other guides which seem more focused on inventory.
You got no idea how happy this comment makes me feel lmao, thanks a lot! I've also noticed in a lot of guides that there is a lack of actual help in the caves. Like you said most people focus on inventory and gear, but in reality you can do the fight caves with just about any gear at any level. You just need to know the mechanics and how the caves work, which is what I focused on for with this guide :D
Thanks bro, this guide was huge for me. Ran my first two attempts this morning - bailed on the first one at 55 and managed to kill Jad on the second run. I'm absolutely buzzin
Let’s go man, second attempt cape is really good! Happy the guide could help and now you gotta make use of that cape! Good luck on your future grinds 😁
Don't know why this comment never showed up in my notifcations, but yes you can. Only downside to this is the bolt racks as they have a 100% consumption rate even with an Ava's device. So if you have the money/bolt racks to do this it wouldn't be a bad method 😄
Why would you take the wrench? +1 per sip, you gain +68 from 17 in your inv. But if you meet your minimum +44 prayer, 1 pot restores 72, you lost 4 prayer by takeing the wrench instead of another p-pot. If you were 70 prayer (common stopping point due to bonecrusher/quest req) then you lost 28 prayer over the course of the fight.
Insanely good guide with a realistic setup. Following the rotations, standing in the right place at the start of rounds and dragging the enemies made the waves leading up until Jad so chill. Got my fire cape 2nd try, thanks a lot bro
Hell yeah, happy I was able to help out and that you enjoyed the guide! The goal was to make this as ironman and low level friendly as possible and based on everyone feedback I seemed to have accomplished that 😄
One tip that I don't see recommended anywhere on the youtube guides, that is massively beneficial against Jad: DEFAULT pray against range, and switch to mage as needed. His mage attack is way, way, way easier to pray against, has a longer windup time, and plays a sound effect the second it starts casting (the sound effect is the same as the Retribution prayer effect when it triggers). His range attack has far less audial warning, goes out a lot faster, and also causes him to raise his arms in the air, which can be confused for the mage attack. If you default pray to range then switch whenever you hear the mage attack being cast, you'll save yourself a lot of pain and wasted time.
Great guide. Huge props for actually doing the caves with the low-end setup instead of most guides where they rattle of this gear and then do it with a tbow in full armadyl, making any demo useless for people who need a guide.
For inventory tips, it should be said that ranging potions can be commonly looted from the Grubby chest. The keys are not as rare as other ones similar to it and all the supplies from it are VERY useful for Ironmen~!
You also don’t need to go into the wilderness for a rune crossbow. You can fletch one with a fletching boost @64 fletching - just get a rune limb from any metal dragon that drops one. Pretty fast and easy way to get a rcb
This is true, but if you aren’t a hardcore I’d recommend the crazy arch cause of antifires. Getting the herblore level for them can take a little while. Either way, good shout 😁
Easily the most thorough and complete guide out of the 4-5 I watched. Got my Cape this morning on my GIM! Will be recommending this guide to the rest of the group. Cheers!
I'm assuming you'd want to have a Black Mask or Slayer Helm imbued for running the Caves on task, but you never mentioned being on task so I'm curious if there's any other reason why you'd want to run those other options like the Helm of Neitznot? Never mind, first thing you say in the video of you doing the full run is that you're on task.
All good, I got the question plenty of times! I definitely made that a little confusing, but good thing you got it figured out. Good luck in the caves and I hope you get the cape!
Yes only use the slayer helm if you are on task. The archer's helm and helm of neitiznot are both better options if you do not have a Jad task :) Good luck on your attempts and get you'll that cape soon 👍
Nice detail that logging out places you in the center of the cave. That can lead to some 54 melee hits from the magers in later waves. Rcb is available from Deranged Archeologist. They drop runite limbs. 69 fletch on an iron is worse than risking a hardcore though.
@@jessedekruijf Hell yeah man, first attempt is impressive as shit! Massive congrats on your cape, now go get that inferno cape with your first attempt skills 😎
Big thanks! been procrastinating this challenge for so long until I saw this and managed to clear it just now on the first try only a couple of hours after watching the video
Underrated for sure! I love when people keep it simple. For some reason the sweaty tick perfect guides always dissuade me from trying new challenges. Dont get me wrong those guides are valuable as well, but I really appreciate the simple method to at least go in and attempt. Then refine later. Thanks for making this video!
already have a firecape on my main, but was still nervous getting it on my iron,. thanks for the guide it was very helpful. also just watched your other vids, top quality stuff dude, keep it up
Pretty casual player here but I'm working on the fight caves. I forgot that the rotations were a thing but I think I'm gonna imbue my slayer helm and go for a jad task before I check the rotations out.
@@walksamongwolves6910 Definitely a good shout, it’s what I did for my first cape on my main and Ironman, highly recommend it if you have lower stats or are still learning 👍
I'm closing in on attempting fight caves on my UIM, and I have never done it before. This video has given me a lot of confidence, man. Short but informative, the best kind. Have a like and a sub, you've earned it big time!
Thank you and good luck on your run! UIM prep for fight caves are always scary so I wish you good fortune in the caves, guarantee you'll get it first attempt :D
@@Karlsonsk Yooo, just wanted to say that I failed my first attempt and died when healers spawned during Jad (had I not panicked I'd be fine). I tried again today and the run was super smooth, so got myself my first ever fire cape! Thanks!
A tip I have to give after trying the fight caves for the first time just a few days ago. When you go in for the first time, just go in and see what happends. With the info in the guide, you'll feel more confident your second time when you know more what you're agains. I lost on my first try on wave 53, but I was only trying. Got to Jad the second time, but clicked the wrong prayer. third time, I paniced with Jads Healers, and fourth time, I thought it was a ranged attack when it was a magic attack, and I got a lag spike, so I was unable to change back in time.
Hey man awesome video thanks for the upload! Will be helpful when trying my first fire cape soon. Quick question.. how do you get the ground/floor of the fight caves orange instead of the default red? It's much easier on the eyes when its orange, like you have in the video.
I used proselyte legs and helm with d‘hide body and a rune c bow with an unfinished god book on my lvl 79 HC, a tip i brought blood burst to heal up inbetween on the 180‘s and minions and left 4 food for the end saves alot of food. Hope this helps! 👍
I am currently point boosting to get broad bolts to go to the jad cave. My plan was to use full void + rune CB with broad bolts. Should i rather use full void + MSBI + rune arrows instead?
I personally prefer and recommend the MSBI with rune arrows, but if you want the additional few tiles of range and want to take a little more time with your cave attempt, the RCB with adamant bolts or broad bolts will work just fine too!
While this is an option, the msb(i) is still better and somewhat easier to obtain. My only worry with the deranged archeologist is the risk of dying, especially on HCIM.
if u ever make another guide on this a few years down the line i'd recommend showing clips of you kiting the enemies into a safe spot instead of cutting through those to show u attacking. it's way more useful to see how you use the rocks to safespot then to see what u do once you've already done that. so far every guide i've seen just says you can safe spot at certain locations and leaves it at that. tbh though I'm grateful you included a full run in the description im not hating or anything.
I would also say take ancient spellbook and use one of the blood spells for healing if you are trying to save on food early. All you need is rune pouch, and ancient staff. maybe a god book as well.
It is only BIS if on task, I just put it at the top of the list because it’s most ideal. If you are not on a slayer task your best helmet option is your best range helm, helm of neitiznot, or a mitre 😁
I was struggling so much, and after your advice about this rotation map and the shirt bow I did it first try without too much issue. Legitimately the best guide out there, and I’ve watched a few. Thank you so much for the info.
ty so much! been playing rs my whole life and never tried to get the fire cape but, with your guide i got it on my first try! the rotation guide is extremely helpful, thank you!
UIM in combat 65s here - I searched for a Fight caves guide after dying on my first try... for some reason I skipped the first two recommended videos and was attracted by the title of yours. Well - destiny, I would say, as you managed to help me getting my firecape first try with this method! (And I also followed your instructions by successfully tanking 1 Jad hit :P) Thank you very much for this awesome guide! I will recommend it to anyone who struggles with getting to Jad!
Congratulations on the cape!!! The fact you did the fight caves with 65 cmbs on a UIM is crazy, especially considering the fact you tanked a Jad hit and it was your first try. I'm happy I was able to help you achieve this and thank you for the kind words 😎
I did it exactly like this, literally exactly, but after 30s of having the healers on me, they started healing jad again. This place is such a waste of time.
Yeah it really sucks your first time around until you complete it. It just takes time, practice, and wave management. Next time for the healers you can try trapping them behind Italy rock or another wall, this way they can't attack you or reach Jad on your next attempt. This will 100% make sure they can't heal jad, but it can be a little challening and scary to do while focusing on Jad's attacks.
If it gives you more confidence in the cave to use blood spells then sure! Blood spells are not required by any means to complete the cave, and if you know you are a little slower with switching prayer or are prone to messing up a little, the backup of having blood spells is very nice. You will just have to make sure your magic bonuses are not too low or to bring a mini magic switch to use them. It can be a waste of runes, but if it gets you the cape it is worth it in my book!
@@Karlsonsk Awesome, thanks for all the tips and taking the time to put together this guide! Watching this has definitely made fight caves seem less intimidating 😎
Thank you! With this guide and two fails at Jad I finally conquered this challenge :D Just didnt expect the healers to respawn when I killed them all slowly, letting Jad get full HP, but still managed to pull through
@@snibbers Hell yeah!!! Congratulations on your cape and good job powering through those two fails, same happened to me and I was about ready to just settle with my skill cape lmao
This is by far the best video. Tried 3x with other guides, was having a hard time, this one made it stupid simple and i love it! even talking about logging out, that way i know i can take a pee break! thanks dude!
Thank you for the kind words and I'm happy you found the guide helpful! I wanted to include as many tips as possible when making this guide, especially the ones that I wish I had known when I did the caves on my ironman. Logging out was not one of those things I knew myself lmao. Was in the cave for like 3 hours my first run without any breaks just to end up dying 😂
Damn, that is exactly what happened to me my first time lmao. I died to jad right after his appearing text showed, and then I got to healers the next. It took me 3 jad fights to get my cape, but I was just dumb. You got this next try for sure, I believe you got this 100%. Gl on your next attempt and get that cape!
Of course! It will just be a little challenging and the cave itself may take a little long to complete. I myself did the cave with the minimum stats, so if I can do it, you definitely can too 😁
How many rune arrows should I bring if I have 70 ranged and planning to go with MSB(i)? I'm not the best at LMS and don't wanna dare going bare minimum
I just go to Jad for the first time, it took me three hours in game, four hours total with the pausing between some rounds to stretch. I was SHAKING going in. Got to the healer, tagged them all and got them in a line on me and then managed to get jad down to 14 hp when my nerves and excitement got the best of me and I slipped the mouse the smallest bit and missed a prayer... K.O. Was devastated. Finding the motivation to go again is going to be so hard!
This is easily one of the saddest moments in human history 😢. That being said, I’d you made it that far on your first jad attempt, you definitely got the kill bagged your second time around! Good luck on your next attempt and get that cape 😁
I went through a few guides but this is by far the best one I stumbled upon. Making the inferno less intimidating rather than more so. Made my first firecape seem like a breeze, so nowadays I can hold my head up high on the slayer-tasks. Thanks boss!
Im lvl 116, 90/99/90 , 85 ranged, 71 pray. So scared to do this still. I just gotta do it, I think this video is going to help me most, gonna give it a try when I have time.
You got this for sure, as long as you manage the waves and use the rotations you could do this in your sleep! Goodluck and get that cape, I know you will 😁
I only did cause I didn't want to make the video too long, if you'd like you can slow down the video playback speed during the fight to 0.25 speed and it will be easier to follow 👍
If I can't manage to get a slayer task, should I use a bandos coif instead of slayer helm (i)? managed to get one from clues. Also have full void ranger if that would be better. Edit: no need to answer I scrolled a bit further in the comments and found everything I needed! wish me luck
Best guide to date! First time doing Fight Caves, made it to Jad and got him to 60hp....and of course messed up on a prayer switch. Your guide can't get any better!
Great video! I've played rs on and off for 16 years and never got my fcape. Tried a few times over the years and always failed. Followed your guide and got to Jad first try and then got my cape on my 3rd attempt!! Died first 2 times because I was panicking lol. The 3rd time I focused ONLY on jad prayers and pulled it off with 8 hp tanking healers, focusing only on the prayers definitely helped. By the end of my third run I felt like a pro handling the waves because I followed your vid every time through. Thanks for the cape on my hcim :) Feels so good!
Massive congrats man! It took me 11 years myself to get firecape so I definitely feel you! Happy I was able to help and I’m glad to see that you managed to complete the caves with confidence 😎
I cannot thank you enough! I got my first firecape first try! Iron btw ;). Thanks to you my childhood dream came true lol. I only watched your video and looked up a Jad practice to get the prayer flicks down. I'm 83 def and 93 range and used your exact set up without a task/slay helm (yes, MSB w rune arrows) but included blood spells in a rune pouch (worthless, don't use) and was left with 5 mantas and over half the pray pots. To anyone who thinks they can't do it or doesn't want to put the time in. Watch this video fully once, then take some time and eventually you'll have a spur of the moment and want to do it (like me). I watched the video again as I did the waves and waited until he called out the wave he was on and would stop and continue watching. Like Karl said, PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE WAVE ROTATIONS. P.S.: it's not mentioned in the video, but when Jad is at 150 HP, it spawns 4 healers. Attack each of them to gain agro and to prevent healing, but attack 1 healer at a time after jad hits you so you can adjust your prayers accordingly. + don't get dragged into melee. Good luck!
So happy I was able to help and congrats on getting your first cape 🎉!The tips you’ve provided are extremely important to take into account and hopefully see this comment for the input. Again happy I was able to help and am very glad you enjoyed the guide. Now make use of that cape and show it off 😎
I completely understand where you are coming from. I attempted the fight caves back in 2010 and failed and didn't try again until 2018, so I too was not a fan of the fight caves for a long time. You really don't have to "memorize" the rotations or do any mapping to effectively do the fight caves, you just have to use the rotations to know where to position yourself for the next wave. Don't try to plan 3 or more waves in advance, just focus on your current and next wave and you'll be perfectly fine. I personally don't have anything memorized in the caves myself, other than what to pray and what enemies are going to spawn next. If you decide to go for the cape I wish you the best of luck with the caves and Jad. If not, I still wish you luck on your future endeavors 😁
By far the best and most comprehensive fight cave guides out there. Big props for showing the safe spot tiles, where to stand, and how to lure the monsters. Fire cape was a huge goal of mine , as I was sick of running around with an ardy cape for all my combat training. Watched this vid a few times and got the cape 2nd jad attempt at 3 hp as I ran out of food. I used the blowpipe and got some lucky specs off while tanking 1 of the healers (I made them a line). Also forgot to pray steel skin and eagle eye until halfway through the Jad fight. But hey, I made it out in the end! One tip to others: on wave 62, put the orange guy at a safe spot, get up and take a bathroom break, wash your hands, take deep breaths and get ready. You’re most likely sitting for over an hour and a half so u need to stretch and get the blood flowing and calm down for Jad. Just make sure you don’t go too afk and log by accident ofc lol.
Appreciate the praise man! Happy you got the cape and it only took you 2 Jad attempts! I agree with taking a break before jad though, it definitely helps to move a bit and focus up a bit more without being rushed 🫡
I am very happy for the others, but I need help with the jad. I couldn't figure out the mechanics of the boss and when he hits me the first time I panicked and ended up dying. I wish you could do this task for me. i'm really frustrated
It took me 4 attempts to finally kill Jad for my first time. It is mainly the nerves that get to you, it really helps to watch a few jad fights on youtube before going into your own, or even using an online simulator if they still exist.
I know this guide was meant for irons but i credit this guide for getting me my cape on my 1def pure, learning how to use the rotation map was game changing
Happy the guide could help! The guide is targeted towards ironmen but meant for all accounts! Same rules apply to running the cave, just wanted to use easy to obtain gear to show it can be done on irons 😁
You could use blood spells or keep one monster alive and safespotted to regenerate health. It takes a while, but if it has to be done, it has to be done 👍
@@danielanderson9338 you do not, only way you lose anything here is if you are GROUP hardcore Ironman and you can lose your hardcore status. In terms of items you keep everything except for the supplies you use along the waves!
Blood spells are crazy good in the fight caves, they just are a little expensive and have a decent amount of requirements to use. Most ironmen won't have them for their first cape, but if they do I 100% recommend it! Good tip 😁
how do u only have 400 subs??? thats crazy!!!!!! cant wait to see u blow! thanks for the video very informative and helpful yet direct to the point. Love it
if you want range pots and you can't make them yet, you can go farm some grubby keys to hit the chest, can get ranging pots from there. Can also get some super restores and brews also.
Only has the effect on task. You don’t need a task to do the caves, but it helps a lot with accuracy and damage. If you can’t get a task just swap the black mask out for the best range helmet you got or the neitznot 👍
The MSB and rotation tips were game changing.. Tried once blind on my IM with rcb and fucked up at wave 47 since I didn't know the rotation and got 2 shot by the mage's melee. Tried a second time with MSB and the rotations page open, one shot everything including Jad. It really did make it feel more like a puzzle and it was actually a lot of fun. Great guide man, recommended to a friend!
Congrats on the cape and I'm happy I could help! I always felt like the rcb was overrated for the caves and you would run out of supplies as you got closer to Jad. After 2 or 3 tries of the caves I started to take new apporaches and the msb, looking at the caves like a puzzle (like you explained), and looking at rotations made it so much more fun/easy for me. I'm happy the guide is having the same effect on other people! Good luck with your future challenges 😁
I think this may be the first guide that's actually going to make me complete fight caves for my first time ever. I've tried it on normie accounts, and iron Man accounts, but never completed it. Time to finally achieve the fire cape on my iron Man!
You got this man! I tried many times on 2 seperate accounts to get my firecape and after meeting Jad 3 different times I finally got it. Just keep on trying and I guarantee you can get it as well; cause if I can get it, you sure as hell can too! 😁
just to chuck this out there you could swap some of those karams for baskets of strawbs. my first firecape on the iron was with p pots, sharks and strawbs.
True, if you got access to strawberries and have high enough highpoints, they actually are better than sharks. They heal 1-6 depending on your hp level, with 67+ healing 5 hp per strawberry and 84+ healing 6. Meaning you can get 25-30 hp from one basket.
No you do not, I was actually on a task while making this video so that is why I wore it. A god d'hide coif, helm of neitiznot, or a mitre are all better options, however the slayer helm does have decent defensive stats if you don't have these other pieces of equipment. Sorry about the confusion, it is only best in slot if you are on task 🙂
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Mad props for actually doing the cave with the minimum gear rather than these other ass holes that go in fully kitted.
Lmao thanks! I feel like more guides should show minimum or lower tier gear to prove its doable and provide examples to what an average players trips should look like instead of maximum efficiency. It makes it more understandable and shows that it is possible for those with less on their account, also allowing for more inspiration to actually do things like the fight caves. Before learning the fight caves and making this guide I thought blowpipe was a requirement, but over time I switched to the Karils crossbow and eventually to the msb(I), it’s just about perspective which I’m happy you acknowledged. Good luck on getting your cape and your future rs endeavors!
@@Karlsonsk Exactly. It also helps morale cause if you state in the guide that it CAN be done and then proceed to do it with BP and Armadyl and then the player watching the guides tries with the minimum gear and is struggling it discourages them. It may also cause the effect of the person watching to question the integratory of the video and methods presented.
@@Karlsonsk would you say karil's crossbow is better than a msb imbued with rune arrows for fight caves?
@@762Faneto In terms of dps yes, but for cost and if you are an ironman cause of the grind not really. Your ava's does not save karils boltracks so you would need a very very large amount of them for the cave.
@@Karlsonsk thanks for the quick reply man but yeah I'm an iron, bolt racks aren't too expensive to just buy though. Id imagine I'd probably use around 1-2k bolt racks per run right?
This is probably the best recent guide. I'm not an ironman but it talks a lot more about tactics than a lot of other guides which seem more focused on inventory.
You got no idea how happy this comment makes me feel lmao, thanks a lot! I've also noticed in a lot of guides that there is a lack of actual help in the caves. Like you said most people focus on inventory and gear, but in reality you can do the fight caves with just about any gear at any level. You just need to know the mechanics and how the caves work, which is what I focused on for with this guide :D
@@Karlsonsk Yeah man I found it very useful. I'll keep tuned for more guides if you ever decide to make em !
Thanks bro, this guide was huge for me. Ran my first two attempts this morning - bailed on the first one at 55 and managed to kill Jad on the second run. I'm absolutely buzzin
Let’s go man, second attempt cape is really good! Happy the guide could help and now you gotta make use of that cape! Good luck on your future grinds 😁
i get my first fire cape today and your guide helped me a lot, congratulations for the excellent work!!
First off, I should be the one congratulating you on the cape, and second, I'm happy I could help! Thanks for the kind words as well 😁
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Can I do it using full karil and ammy of damned or is that bad idea?
Note: account is ironman
Don't know why this comment never showed up in my notifcations, but yes you can. Only downside to this is the bolt racks as they have a 100% consumption rate even with an Ava's device. So if you have the money/bolt racks to do this it wouldn't be a bad method 😄
mage boy just meleed me and put me in the dirt near the very end lol, woulda been nice to know they could even melee 0.o
This is the guy that does food reviews and lives in Japan, change my mind.
I wish, Japan is a country I want to visit soooooo badly 🥲
Why would you take the wrench? +1 per sip, you gain +68 from 17 in your inv. But if you meet your minimum +44 prayer, 1 pot restores 72, you lost 4 prayer by takeing the wrench instead of another p-pot. If you were 70 prayer (common stopping point due to bonecrusher/quest req) then you lost 28 prayer over the course of the fight.
Got my first Firecape thanks to you!! The wiki rotation, and the call out his attack helped a lot. You're the best!
Actually so happy to hear that! Congrats on getting your first fire cape and I'm glad I was able to help get it :D
Insanely good guide with a realistic setup. Following the rotations, standing in the right place at the start of rounds and dragging the enemies made the waves leading up until Jad so chill. Got my fire cape 2nd try, thanks a lot bro
Hell yeah, happy I was able to help out and that you enjoyed the guide! The goal was to make this as ironman and low level friendly as possible and based on everyone feedback I seemed to have accomplished that 😄
One tip that I don't see recommended anywhere on the youtube guides, that is massively beneficial against Jad: DEFAULT pray against range, and switch to mage as needed. His mage attack is way, way, way easier to pray against, has a longer windup time, and plays a sound effect the second it starts casting (the sound effect is the same as the Retribution prayer effect when it triggers).
His range attack has far less audial warning, goes out a lot faster, and also causes him to raise his arms in the air, which can be confused for the mage attack. If you default pray to range then switch whenever you hear the mage attack being cast, you'll save yourself a lot of pain and wasted time.
Great guide. Huge props for actually doing the caves with the low-end setup instead of most guides where they rattle of this gear and then do it with a tbow in full armadyl, making any demo useless for people who need a guide.
For inventory tips, it should be said that ranging potions can be commonly looted from the Grubby chest. The keys are not as rare as other ones similar to it and all the supplies from it are VERY useful for Ironmen~!
the crystal bow is highly underrated acurate and strong.
Definitely a good option if you got some spare money, I just don't use it cause of the charge cost.
You also don’t need to go into the wilderness for a rune crossbow. You can fletch one with a fletching boost @64 fletching - just get a rune limb from any metal dragon that drops one. Pretty fast and easy way to get a rcb
This is true, but if you aren’t a hardcore I’d recommend the crazy arch cause of antifires. Getting the herblore level for them can take a little while. Either way, good shout 😁
Easily the most thorough and complete guide out of the 4-5 I watched. Got my Cape this morning on my GIM! Will be recommending this guide to the rest of the group. Cheers!
Ayyy congrats on the cape and I'm happy I could help! Tell your GIM mates that I wish them the best of luck on their attempts 😎
I'm assuming you'd want to have a Black Mask or Slayer Helm imbued for running the Caves on task, but you never mentioned being on task so I'm curious if there's any other reason why you'd want to run those other options like the Helm of Neitznot?
Never mind, first thing you say in the video of you doing the full run is that you're on task.
All good, I got the question plenty of times! I definitely made that a little confusing, but good thing you got it figured out. Good luck in the caves and I hope you get the cape!
@@Karlsonsk I did, in fact, get my Fire Cape, and even on the first try. Using the rotation guide really is a huge help. Thanks for the videos.
@@synysterdawn8913 No problem and congrats on the cape, happy my tips could help!
Awesome video!! Is the slayer helm if you're on task? The archers helm gives 5 more defence for one less range attack power, wouldn't that be better?
Yes only use the slayer helm if you are on task. The archer's helm and helm of neitiznot are both better options if you do not have a Jad task :)
Good luck on your attempts and get you'll that cape soon 👍
Nice detail that logging out places you in the center of the cave. That can lead to some 54 melee hits from the magers in later waves.
Rcb is available from Deranged Archeologist. They drop runite limbs. 69 fletch on an iron is worse than risking a hardcore though.
Massive THANKS man for helping me achieve my childhood goal after coming back to osrs since playing rs2, got in on my first attempt :))
@@jessedekruijf Hell yeah man, first attempt is impressive as shit! Massive congrats on your cape, now go get that inferno cape with your first attempt skills 😎
Big thanks! been procrastinating this challenge for so long until I saw this and managed to clear it just now on the first try only a couple of hours after watching the video
Hell yeah, congrats! Happy the video helped and props on doing it on your first try!
Underrated for sure! I love when people keep it simple. For some reason the sweaty tick perfect guides always dissuade me from trying new challenges.
Dont get me wrong those guides are valuable as well, but I really appreciate the simple method to at least go in and attempt. Then refine later.
Thanks for making this video!
Your welcome and thank you for the feedback! It means a lot knowing I was able to help 😁
already have a firecape on my main, but was still nervous getting it on my iron,.
thanks for the guide it was very helpful.
also just watched your other vids, top quality stuff dude, keep it up
@@erupsoahc Happy I could help and thank you! I’m trying to get better as I make more videos so it means a lot to get some praise 😁
Pretty casual player here but I'm working on the fight caves. I forgot that the rotations were a thing but I think I'm gonna imbue my slayer helm and go for a jad task before I check the rotations out.
@@walksamongwolves6910 Definitely a good shout, it’s what I did for my first cape on my main and Ironman, highly recommend it if you have lower stats or are still learning 👍
I'm closing in on attempting fight caves on my UIM, and I have never done it before. This video has given me a lot of confidence, man. Short but informative, the best kind. Have a like and a sub, you've earned it big time!
Thank you and good luck on your run! UIM prep for fight caves are always scary so I wish you good fortune in the caves, guarantee you'll get it first attempt :D
@@Karlsonsk Yooo, just wanted to say that I failed my first attempt and died when healers spawned during Jad (had I not panicked I'd be fine). I tried again today and the run was super smooth, so got myself my first ever fire cape! Thanks!
@@usainwult2414 Congrats!!! Getting your first firecape is a huge achievement! Happy you managed to get it done and happy I was able to help 😁
A tip I have to give after trying the fight caves for the first time just a few days ago. When you go in for the first time, just go in and see what happends. With the info in the guide, you'll feel more confident your second time when you know more what you're agains. I lost on my first try on wave 53, but I was only trying. Got to Jad the second time, but clicked the wrong prayer. third time, I paniced with Jads Healers, and fourth time, I thought it was a ranged attack when it was a magic attack, and I got a lag spike, so I was unable to change back in time.
Hey man awesome video thanks for the upload! Will be helpful when trying my first fire cape soon. Quick question.. how do you get the ground/floor of the fight caves orange instead of the default red? It's much easier on the eyes when its orange, like you have in the video.
Thank you and good luck on the fire cape when you get around to the caves! By the way I’m using the runelite 117 HD plug-in for the orange ground!
I used proselyte legs and helm with d‘hide body and a rune c bow with an unfinished god book on my lvl 79 HC, a tip i brought blood burst to heal up inbetween on the 180‘s and minions and left 4 food for the end saves alot of food. Hope this helps! 👍
I am currently point boosting to get broad bolts to go to the jad cave. My plan was to use full void + rune CB with broad bolts. Should i rather use full void + MSBI + rune arrows instead?
I personally prefer and recommend the MSBI with rune arrows, but if you want the additional few tiles of range and want to take a little more time with your cave attempt, the RCB with adamant bolts or broad bolts will work just fine too!
noob questions but do you have to be on a jad task for the slayer helmet to work?
yes you have to be on a task to work
Yes you do, but if you don’t have the helm of neitiznot, archers helm, or a god d’hide coif the slayer helm is still pretty good defensively!
You can kill deranged archeologist for crossbow limbs and fletch it yourself, no wildy required
While this is an option, the msb(i) is still better and somewhat easier to obtain. My only worry with the deranged archeologist is the risk of dying, especially on HCIM.
Got to Jad after 2 hours and i fucking panicked when i saw the healers. Great guide though i will try tomorrow!
Oh man that’s the worst, that being said the same thing happened to me and my very next attempt I got the kill. You got this!
This is the best guide to fight caves I’ve ever seen. Subbed for more great vids!
Thank you! Happy you liked the guide 😁
if u ever make another guide on this a few years down the line i'd recommend showing clips of you kiting the enemies into a safe spot instead of cutting through those to show u attacking. it's way more useful to see how you use the rocks to safespot then to see what u do once you've already done that. so far every guide i've seen just says you can safe spot at certain locations and leaves it at that.
tbh though I'm grateful you included a full run in the description im not hating or anything.
I would also say take ancient spellbook and use one of the blood spells for healing if you are trying to save on food early. All you need is rune pouch, and ancient staff. maybe a god book as well.
I thought Slayer helm (i) was only bis on task? Or is that only for the regular unimbued ?
It is only BIS if on task, I just put it at the top of the list because it’s most ideal. If you are not on a slayer task your best helmet option is your best range helm, helm of neitiznot, or a mitre 😁
A little confused. Are we supposed to be on task if we wear the slayer helm?
Yes, only wear slayer helm on task otherwise wear your best ranged item for your head slot!
I was struggling so much, and after your advice about this rotation map and the shirt bow I did it first try without too much issue. Legitimately the best guide out there, and I’ve watched a few. Thank you so much for the info.
You are very welcome and I am happy the guide helped you out! Congrats on the cape!
ty so much! been playing rs my whole life and never tried to get the fire cape but, with your guide i got it on my first try! the rotation guide is extremely helpful, thank you!
So happy to hear! Glad I could help and congrats on the cape!
UIM in combat 65s here - I searched for a Fight caves guide after dying on my first try... for some reason I skipped the first two recommended videos and was attracted by the title of yours. Well - destiny, I would say, as you managed to help me getting my firecape first try with this method! (And I also followed your instructions by successfully tanking 1 Jad hit :P)
Thank you very much for this awesome guide! I will recommend it to anyone who struggles with getting to Jad!
Congratulations on the cape!!! The fact you did the fight caves with 65 cmbs on a UIM is crazy, especially considering the fact you tanked a Jad hit and it was your first try. I'm happy I was able to help you achieve this and thank you for the kind words 😎
Do you think I could still take him on using broad bolts, full void ?
Yes easily, would just be a little slower of a cave cause the crossbow attack speed 😁
first tried it today, this is the best fight caves guide
@@benjisurf thank you! Best of luck with your next tries, get that cape 🫡
Can blood spells help out during the caves to preserve food?
Sure can, but it might be a little expensive!
Another tip is to bring blood spells in a rune pouch with an ancient staff. I didn't use any food during all the waves thanks to this
always a good idea to turn off the game music when you fight a boss... it's designed to make you feel tense.
Oh yeah, this is a must! I only turn on the game sounds for jad but never the music 👍
i know this is two years later but no way you wear the slayer helm without being on task right? is it still good to wear taskless?
No, only wear the helm if you are on task or don’t have a better range/prayer helm 👍
@@Karlsonsk cool I was a little confused figured I’d only use on task lol, trying with archer helm
I did it exactly like this, literally exactly, but after 30s of having the healers on me, they started healing jad again. This place is such a waste of time.
Yeah it really sucks your first time around until you complete it. It just takes time, practice, and wave management. Next time for the healers you can try trapping them behind Italy rock or another wall, this way they can't attack you or reach Jad on your next attempt. This will 100% make sure they can't heal jad, but it can be a little challening and scary to do while focusing on Jad's attacks.
@@Karlsonsk I really don't see the appeal, doubt I'll attempt again, Jagex really need to stop with this tick-perfect nonsense
Is it recommended to bring runes for blood blitz/ blood burst for heals if we have ancients? or is that just a waste of time and runes
If it gives you more confidence in the cave to use blood spells then sure! Blood spells are not required by any means to complete the cave, and if you know you are a little slower with switching prayer or are prone to messing up a little, the backup of having blood spells is very nice. You will just have to make sure your magic bonuses are not too low or to bring a mini magic switch to use them. It can be a waste of runes, but if it gets you the cape it is worth it in my book!
@@Karlsonsk Awesome, thanks for all the tips and taking the time to put together this guide! Watching this has definitely made fight caves seem less intimidating 😎
You never linked the full unedited kill in the description
It's directly below the wave's rotation link, but I can link it here for you as well: ua-cam.com/video/y-JhXbzrcrA/v-deo.html
Every 3 years i give it another shot, failed again, but the guide was very good!
Oh my god, just got my first ever fire cape in years of playing this game. ty for awesome guide, made it so easy. 🥰🥰
Thank you! With this guide and two fails at Jad I finally conquered this challenge :D Just didnt expect the healers to respawn when I killed them all slowly, letting Jad get full HP, but still managed to pull through
@@snibbers Hell yeah!!! Congratulations on your cape and good job powering through those two fails, same happened to me and I was about ready to just settle with my skill cape lmao
This is by far the best video. Tried 3x with other guides, was having a hard time, this one made it stupid simple and i love it! even talking about logging out, that way i know i can take a pee break! thanks dude!
Thank you for the kind words and I'm happy you found the guide helpful! I wanted to include as many tips as possible when making this guide, especially the ones that I wish I had known when I did the caves on my ironman. Logging out was not one of those things I knew myself lmao. Was in the cave for like 3 hours my first run without any breaks just to end up dying 😂
@@Karlsonsk thats the worst! lol I still cant finish jad, i get scared, but I'm gonna keep using your methods :) thanks again man!
@@carnagemunky2784 good luck, you 100% got this. Took me 3 jad attempts before I got him, you’ll have the cape in no time 👍
God damn it got to jad and died lol 1st attempt though
Damn, that is exactly what happened to me my first time lmao. I died to jad right after his appearing text showed, and then I got to healers the next. It took me 3 jad fights to get my cape, but I was just dumb. You got this next try for sure, I believe you got this 100%. Gl on your next attempt and get that cape!
Trawled through a lot of guides and this one was by far the best, got my first ever cape, on an ironman too - great vid mate 👏
LFG!!! Congratulations on the cape my dude and I'm happy you found the guide helpful!
ty thanks to ur guide got it 2nd try ever ... 1st try i planked while grapping healers ... used the plugin for rotations as well (fight caves helper)
Congrats on the cape! Happy the guide could help you out and those plugins are definitely essential!
can i still do it minimum levels w/o black mask.
Of course! It will just be a little challenging and the cave itself may take a little long to complete. I myself did the cave with the minimum stats, so if I can do it, you definitely can too 😁
Slayer helm also when it’s off-task?
No, only task, otherwise use the best range helm you got 😁
Dont forget to turn on sounds!! Those really helped me too
How many rune arrows should I bring if I have 70 ranged and planning to go with MSB(i)? I'm not the best at LMS and don't wanna dare going bare minimum
I’d say 900 if plenty, but if you want to be safe I’d go for like 1200 👍
I just go to Jad for the first time, it took me three hours in game, four hours total with the pausing between some rounds to stretch.
I was SHAKING going in. Got to the healer, tagged them all and got them in a line on me and then managed to get jad down to 14 hp when my nerves and excitement got the best of me and I slipped the mouse the smallest bit and missed a prayer... K.O.
Was devastated. Finding the motivation to go again is going to be so hard!
This is easily one of the saddest moments in human history 😢. That being said, I’d you made it that far on your first jad attempt, you definitely got the kill bagged your second time around! Good luck on your next attempt and get that cape 😁
I went through a few guides but this is by far the best one I stumbled upon. Making the inferno less intimidating rather than more so. Made my first firecape seem like a breeze, so nowadays I can hold my head up high on the slayer-tasks. Thanks boss!
No problem man, happy I was able to help! Gratz on the cape as well 🙂
Im lvl 116, 90/99/90 , 85 ranged, 71 pray. So scared to do this still. I just gotta do it, I think this video is going to help me most, gonna give it a try when I have time.
You got this for sure, as long as you manage the waves and use the rotations you could do this in your sleep! Goodluck and get that cape, I know you will 😁
The video was great but I don't really understand why you sped up fighting jad, felt like that was the most important part..
I only did cause I didn't want to make the video too long, if you'd like you can slow down the video playback speed during the fight to 0.25 speed and it will be easier to follow 👍
Oh you were right knowing the rotation made it so easy. I had all8 food and 7 prayer pots left when jad 1 shot me 😂😢😭🤣
Lmao, I am so sorry to hear that 😭
If I can't manage to get a slayer task, should I use a bandos coif instead of slayer helm (i)? managed to get one from clues. Also have full void ranger if that would be better.
Edit: no need to answer I scrolled a bit further in the comments and found everything I needed! wish me luck
Good luck on the attempt, you got this 100%!
Best guide to date! First time doing Fight Caves, made it to Jad and got him to 60hp....and of course messed up on a prayer switch. Your guide can't get any better!
Thank you and best of luck on your next attempt! Getting jad to 60hp first time doing fight caves is insane, you definitely got it next try!
another good tip is to use runelite's npc indicators plugin, to better see the healers in jad phase
how do i get those health and prayer bars
Its a runelite plugin called status bars :)
Great video! I've played rs on and off for 16 years and never got my fcape. Tried a few times over the years and always failed. Followed your guide and got to Jad first try and then got my cape on my 3rd attempt!! Died first 2 times because I was panicking lol. The 3rd time I focused ONLY on jad prayers and pulled it off with 8 hp tanking healers, focusing only on the prayers definitely helped. By the end of my third run I felt like a pro handling the waves because I followed your vid every time through. Thanks for the cape on my hcim :) Feels so good!
Massive congrats man! It took me 11 years myself to get firecape so I definitely feel you! Happy I was able to help and I’m glad to see that you managed to complete the caves with confidence 😎
I kinda wish I could just get on some noob people's accounts and do the fire cape for them just because it's fun.
It is pretty fun to be honest lol. I love getting jad tasks
I cannot thank you enough! I got my first firecape first try! Iron btw ;). Thanks to you my childhood dream came true lol. I only watched your video and looked up a Jad practice to get the prayer flicks down. I'm 83 def and 93 range and used your exact set up without a task/slay helm (yes, MSB w rune arrows) but included blood spells in a rune pouch (worthless, don't use) and was left with 5 mantas and over half the pray pots.
To anyone who thinks they can't do it or doesn't want to put the time in. Watch this video fully once, then take some time and eventually you'll have a spur of the moment and want to do it (like me). I watched the video again as I did the waves and waited until he called out the wave he was on and would stop and continue watching. Like Karl said, PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE WAVE ROTATIONS.
P.S.: it's not mentioned in the video, but when Jad is at 150 HP, it spawns 4 healers. Attack each of them to gain agro and to prevent healing, but attack 1 healer at a time after jad hits you so you can adjust your prayers accordingly. + don't get dragged into melee. Good luck!
So happy I was able to help and congrats on getting your first cape 🎉!The tips you’ve provided are extremely important to take into account and hopefully see this comment for the input. Again happy I was able to help and am very glad you enjoyed the guide. Now make use of that cape and show it off 😎
Not a fan of the fight caves. Haven't even tried it yet, and just hate the idea of "memorize out-of-game mapping" to beat it.
I completely understand where you are coming from. I attempted the fight caves back in 2010 and failed and didn't try again until 2018, so I too was not a fan of the fight caves for a long time. You really don't have to "memorize" the rotations or do any mapping to effectively do the fight caves, you just have to use the rotations to know where to position yourself for the next wave. Don't try to plan 3 or more waves in advance, just focus on your current and next wave and you'll be perfectly fine. I personally don't have anything memorized in the caves myself, other than what to pray and what enemies are going to spawn next. If you decide to go for the cape I wish you the best of luck with the caves and Jad. If not, I still wish you luck on your future endeavors 😁
By far the best and most comprehensive fight cave guides out there. Big props for showing the safe spot tiles, where to stand, and how to lure the monsters.
Fire cape was a huge goal of mine , as I was sick of running around with an ardy cape for all my combat training. Watched this vid a few times and got the cape 2nd jad attempt at 3 hp as I ran out of food. I used the blowpipe and got some lucky specs off while tanking 1 of the healers (I made them a line). Also forgot to pray steel skin and eagle eye until halfway through the Jad fight. But hey, I made it out in the end!
One tip to others: on wave 62, put the orange guy at a safe spot, get up and take a bathroom break, wash your hands, take deep breaths and get ready. You’re most likely sitting for over an hour and a half so u need to stretch and get the blood flowing and calm down for Jad. Just make sure you don’t go too afk and log by accident ofc lol.
Appreciate the praise man! Happy you got the cape and it only took you 2 Jad attempts! I agree with taking a break before jad though, it definitely helps to move a bit and focus up a bit more without being rushed 🫡
I am very happy for the others, but I need help with the jad. I couldn't figure out the mechanics of the boss and when he hits me the first time I panicked and ended up dying. I wish you could do this task for me. i'm really frustrated
It took me 4 attempts to finally kill Jad for my first time. It is mainly the nerves that get to you, it really helps to watch a few jad fights on youtube before going into your own, or even using an online simulator if they still exist.
as u enter do not click continue. i never tryed to wait in my 15 years
I know this guide was meant for irons but i credit this guide for getting me my cape on my 1def pure, learning how to use the rotation map was game changing
Happy the guide could help! The guide is targeted towards ironmen but meant for all accounts! Same rules apply to running the cave, just wanted to use easy to obtain gear to show it can be done on irons 😁
D hide is btter than void unless ur 92 range
how do you heal in between waves? i heard you need blood spells
do you do it on slayer task why use slayer helm?
You could use blood spells or keep one monster alive and safespotted to regenerate health. It takes a while, but if it has to be done, it has to be done 👍
@@BriceTooNice yeah slayer helm is only for a task, if you don’t have a slayer task wear your best range helm instead
Does void night range work
Of course!
stupid question do you lose your gear if you die?
@@danielanderson9338 you do not, only way you lose anything here is if you are GROUP hardcore Ironman and you can lose your hardcore status. In terms of items you keep everything except for the supplies you use along the waves!
@@Karlsonsk thank you only just started playing again. Need some goals
I have pretty good stats (88 range, 74 prayer) with blessed d'hide, ranger boots, karils cbow and I still always die to Jad D:
If you're getting rune xbow as hcim from wildy, just remember aviansies drop rune limbs
Only difference I did was have blood burst for heals. I had only brought 5 sharks but messed up a lot.
Blood spells are crazy good in the fight caves, they just are a little expensive and have a decent amount of requirements to use. Most ironmen won't have them for their first cape, but if they do I 100% recommend it! Good tip 😁
Thanks for the guide, definitely helped!
Screwed it up on my first attempt, missed 1 of the Jad prayer changes 😩
But got it second try 🎉
If you made it to jad first attempt you got it this next time for sure! Good luck and get that cape 😩😎
Just wondering , how is slayer helm (I) worth it over god coif ? I never thought of bringing mine
It’s only better if you are on a slayer task, otherwise just about any range helm is better than the slayer helm, especially a god d’hide coif 😁
how do u only have 400 subs??? thats crazy!!!!!! cant wait to see u blow! thanks for the video very informative and helpful yet direct to the point. Love it
Thanks for the kind words and I'm happy I could help! I just gotta keep making content and growing 😁
if you want range pots and you can't make them yet, you can go farm some grubby keys to hit the chest, can get ranging pots from there. Can also get some super restores and brews also.
THANK YOUUUU
Bruh, my BEST ping is high 80s....
I wish I could pull 34
You chillin, you're just better so you guaranteed getting this cape 😎
Will the black mask take effect even if you dont have a slayer task or do I have to get it as a task first?
Only has the effect on task. You don’t need a task to do the caves, but it helps a lot with accuracy and damage. If you can’t get a task just swap the black mask out for the best range helmet you got or the neitznot 👍
The MSB and rotation tips were game changing..
Tried once blind on my IM with rcb and fucked up at wave 47 since I didn't know the rotation and got 2 shot by the mage's melee.
Tried a second time with MSB and the rotations page open, one shot everything including Jad. It really did make it feel more like a puzzle and it was actually a lot of fun.
Great guide man, recommended to a friend!
Congrats on the cape and I'm happy I could help! I always felt like the rcb was overrated for the caves and you would run out of supplies as you got closer to Jad. After 2 or 3 tries of the caves I started to take new apporaches and the msb, looking at the caves like a puzzle (like you explained), and looking at rotations made it so much more fun/easy for me. I'm happy the guide is having the same effect on other people! Good luck with your future challenges 😁
I think this may be the first guide that's actually going to make me complete fight caves for my first time ever. I've tried it on normie accounts, and iron Man accounts, but never completed it. Time to finally achieve the fire cape on my iron Man!
You got this man! I tried many times on 2 seperate accounts to get my firecape and after meeting Jad 3 different times I finally got it. Just keep on trying and I guarantee you can get it as well; cause if I can get it, you sure as hell can too! 😁
This is a fantastic fight caves guide. Detailed and thorough! Cheers man
Thanks for the kind words, happy to hear I was of service! 🙂
just to chuck this out there you could swap some of those karams for baskets of strawbs. my first firecape on the iron was with p pots, sharks and strawbs.
True, if you got access to strawberries and have high enough highpoints, they actually are better than sharks. They heal 1-6 depending on your hp level, with 67+ healing 5 hp per strawberry and 84+ healing 6. Meaning you can get 25-30 hp from one basket.
Why do you recommend black mask/slayer helm? If you're not on task you don't get the boost right?
No you do not, I was actually on a task while making this video so that is why I wore it. A god d'hide coif, helm of neitiznot, or a mitre are all better options, however the slayer helm does have decent defensive stats if you don't have these other pieces of equipment. Sorry about the confusion, it is only best in slot if you are on task 🙂
I did to much Adderall because my Dr said to and damn I didn't like it :p also I died on wave 56 rip too low dps I'ma ironman
brother if i could make the magic sb through fletching i could make the rune crossbow first
Bro after 5 attempts I watched this and I finally got my cape, thank you so much for the help dude great vid
Happy I could help man, congrats on your new cape! Next up is the inferno lmao
Fire guide bro. If you made other guides just like this on other bosses and quests/bosses
That is the plan, got a few other ideas in mind for Ironman content! Just gotta find the time 😁