@@SailingWithDave I thought, as I was watching you use Google Maps, it might have been a good opportunity to try some map and compass work on the water. Do some traditional navigation rather than rely on elastic trickery. Another time. Cheers Al
@@knucker4931 Yes, you're right. Google is so poor for boat navigation and you're giving all your data away too!! I'm currently doing my Day skipper theory but have also completed the RYA essential navigation and read a bunch of books on Dinghy navigation. I guess you get lazy on a lake you know well!! There's also very limited navigation mapping on lakes that you can practise bearings on, or at least I have never found anything with bouys and landmarks on them. (spoiler alert!!) In a few more weeks you're going to see a new member of the SWD family!! She's going to be much better for coastal cruising and I already have already been fixing some basic navigation kit on her that means I can use nav apps on a tablet, have speed and a decent compass too. The problem with the Mirror for me at least is that when sailing you have to be so focussed on sailing her, that manual map reading and taking bearings on her is almost impossible unless motoring. The new boat is way more stable for this. Watch this space!!!
@@SailingWithDave ooh, interesting snippet about a new boat. I shall follow with interest. Small craft navigations seems to be more about comprehensive planning before getting on the water, from what I've read and the little that I understand. Starting off when motoring would be my choice. Calculating distance travelled by time and speed. Having a selection of predetermined bearings from various points on and around the lake and testing how accurately you can sail to those bearings. This is all teaching you to suck eggs, but it's how I plan to start. How about starting with an OS map section showing the lake and trying to plot the position of the racing marks? Did you look at Open Street Maps? They had a variety of niche mapping projects. You seem very computer litterate, perhaps that might have something that would suit. I see you are a member of the Dinghy Cruising Association now. I'm hopeful I might manage a rally or two this year, perhaps see you at one. Al
@@knucker4931 Hi Knucker. You're not teaching me to suck eggs at all. I'm always open to ideas and to be honest the whole point of this channel is to learn from scratch together. TBH you've given me about 8 videos worth of ideas here!!! When I did my Powerboat L2 RYA course this is exactly what we did. We took the map of the River mersey and we made a navigation plan and then took turns zooming between bouys etc. It was all done in 5ft waves and near 8KT spring tides which would have been impossible for any dinghy to contend with. I also thought about getting a sea worthy motor boat like a shetland boat or a RIB because the mentality was that with a boat and 50HP engine, you have a lot less to worry about, so you can focus on your navigation. I still think is a valid way to go, especially on the sea but it would take me away from the sailing aspect and I decided to get something still dinghy but more seaworthy. I don;t think there's any shame in any boat just as long as you feel comfortable is the main thing. I never thought about an OS map. Maybe I should get one of those and then use my GPS to actually mark out features on the actual lake? I actually used OSM years ago when it was new and we made an open map for a client who wanted to map and publish cbusiness delivery points for a courier. I love the idea of it as its effectively decentralising mapping and putting it into the hands of the people. Maybe I should go and look at this in a bit more detail. Yes been a member of the DCA from this year. Its a great forum and I really need to get on more trips. If you go on a rally let me know, especially if its North West!!
I half-expected you to emerge into Narnia. So nice not having a roaring engine. Beautiful video. Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
Good to see you out and about Dave.
Oh yes definitely as soon as could I was out!!
@@SailingWithDave I thought, as I was watching you use Google Maps, it might have been a good opportunity to try some map and compass work on the water. Do some traditional navigation rather than rely on elastic trickery.
Another time.
Cheers
Al
@@knucker4931 Yes, you're right. Google is so poor for boat navigation and you're giving all your data away too!! I'm currently doing my Day skipper theory but have also completed the RYA essential navigation and read a bunch of books on Dinghy navigation. I guess you get lazy on a lake you know well!! There's also very limited navigation mapping on lakes that you can practise bearings on, or at least I have never found anything with bouys and landmarks on them.
(spoiler alert!!) In a few more weeks you're going to see a new member of the SWD family!! She's going to be much better for coastal cruising and I already have already been fixing some basic navigation kit on her that means I can use nav apps on a tablet, have speed and a decent compass too. The problem with the Mirror for me at least is that when sailing you have to be so focussed on sailing her, that manual map reading and taking bearings on her is almost impossible unless motoring. The new boat is way more stable for this. Watch this space!!!
@@SailingWithDave ooh, interesting snippet about a new boat. I shall follow with interest.
Small craft navigations seems to be more about comprehensive planning before getting on the water, from what I've read and the little that I understand. Starting off when motoring would be my choice. Calculating distance travelled by time and speed. Having a selection of predetermined bearings from various points on and around the lake and testing how accurately you can sail to those bearings.
This is all teaching you to suck eggs, but it's how I plan to start.
How about starting with an OS map section showing the lake and trying to plot the position of the racing marks?
Did you look at Open Street Maps? They had a variety of niche mapping projects. You seem very computer litterate, perhaps that might have something that would suit.
I see you are a member of the Dinghy Cruising Association now. I'm hopeful I might manage a rally or two this year, perhaps see you at one.
Al
@@knucker4931 Hi Knucker. You're not teaching me to suck eggs at all. I'm always open to ideas and to be honest the whole point of this channel is to learn from scratch together. TBH you've given me about 8 videos worth of ideas here!!!
When I did my Powerboat L2 RYA course this is exactly what we did. We took the map of the River mersey and we made a navigation plan and then took turns zooming between bouys etc. It was all done in 5ft waves and near 8KT spring tides which would have been impossible for any dinghy to contend with.
I also thought about getting a sea worthy motor boat like a shetland boat or a RIB because the mentality was that with a boat and 50HP engine, you have a lot less to worry about, so you can focus on your navigation. I still think is a valid way to go, especially on the sea but it would take me away from the sailing aspect and I decided to get something still dinghy but more seaworthy. I don;t think there's any shame in any boat just as long as you feel comfortable is the main thing.
I never thought about an OS map. Maybe I should get one of those and then use my GPS to actually mark out features on the actual lake? I actually used OSM years ago when it was new and we made an open map for a client who wanted to map and publish cbusiness delivery points for a courier. I love the idea of it as its effectively decentralising mapping and putting it into the hands of the people. Maybe I should go and look at this in a bit more detail.
Yes been a member of the DCA from this year. Its a great forum and I really need to get on more trips. If you go on a rally let me know, especially if its North West!!