Michael Franzese on Being Locked Up with Menendez Brothers after They Killed Parents (Part 12)
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
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It bothers me so much when someone says a molesting paedophile father wasn't enough of a reason to kill him. What!? How does anyone in 2023 have such a profound lack of understanding of how deeply traumatizing sexual abuse/incest is.
They claimed abuse. They also lied a lot.
You can’t go around killing people crazy.
I know it makes my blood boil I can’t even stomach the verbal description of that level of abuse a gunshot death is a easy way out for the abuser victims they’re already psychologically dead after no wonder most turn to drugs and then suicide if only traumatic memories could be erased
@@lefthandwarlock8503peados are the exception idc what a silly abuser sympathiser like you says
@@elijahFree2000 the father's molestation wasnt fully known at the time. have a look at some of the recent info that came out on him. He was a monster
It’s crazy how desensitized Vlad is to the whole molestation thing 😬 These industry people truly are different.
He is desensitized to everything he’s like a doctor or cop even a robot alll 3 all 1 thing in common no emotion
He is sick
Scumbag , those 2 were raped by a psychopath since they were children
Even the prosecution said it was impossible for a man to rape another man cause “they don’t have the proper equipment “. If that trial would’ve happened today they would’ve looked at it differently.
He’s a diddler too
Vlad really doesn’t research his topics!! Neither of the Menendez brothers threatened their therapist! The therapist let his then mistress listen in on his conversations with the brothers without their knowledge. When the therapist started abusing his mistress and threatened her that her life was in danger from what she knew about the confessions she got spooked and went to the police. She then agreed to wear a wire where the therapist was caught on tape discussing the confessions. Because he broke the doctor/patient privilege by letting her listen in on private sessions with the brothers..he was not compelled by that privilege. He then took little convincing to become the star witness for the prosecution.
The therapist then lost his license to practice a few years after as he was having sex with his female patients!
If he just did a little research he would have known that they literally have a movie and TV show about it 😂
Right And also .. the Melendez brothers were never together in prison . They spilt them up .. they didn’t see eachother again for 20 years
@@madigrace4732 So Michael's story is all made up of his being in the hold with the both of them? He did say that they later split them up. Maybe it was after that point that they didn't see each other for 20 years.
@@NJcruiser
Yeah it was after that point
Yeah…lol🙄
Maybe they did society a favour - he was no longer around to destroy other kids' lives.
I realize murder is wrong but child molestation is evil also.
@@judithwerner5301 maybe they should redefine 'molestation' as the word seems to imply that it is not that serious to what it really was - what it really was, was systematic, persistent longterm rape (physical, emotional and psychological rape). If money was not involved in this case, the sentences would have bern lighter. But money or no money, rape is wrong. Perhaps they should have sought a posthumous conviction for what their father did, because he was never charged or tried, it has always been referred to as 'allegations'.
Damn. Vlad almost made it sound like molestation is not a big deal. Like he’s done it himself. That entertainment industry is nuts.
yes, I undertand your point but no exscuse for murder-double murder!!!!
There is absolute defense for self defense. Jose and Kitty got exactly what they deserved.
@johnmahland363 in your opinion.
@@johnmahland363 Well if raping children is no excuse then wtf is???
Hes part of illuminati so of course its normal to him
The guy from Menudo said he also molested by the Menendez father, who was a record executive.
He was also r*ped
indeed so that is a clue that they are likely to have been.
Oh my god.....the thing at the end where Fanzese's kid sees the Menendez brothers on the cover of The National Enquirer and says, "Look Mommy - Daddy's friends!" That killed me, man.
If they would’ve been the Menendez SISTERS they would be free today
Absolutely!
Hopefully they get out soon. Now that Roy Rosello from Menudo says that Jose Menéndez raped him too. And both his story and the story Lyle Menéndez have said coincide with each other.
They’re literally murderers and threatened to kill the therapist but they should be free?…
He doesn't know what he's talking about they did not threaten to kill their therapist the therapist girlfriend told the police she overheard the conversation where the brother confessed
@@Wo7dup If they were women nobody would call them murderers for killing their abusers. If a woman was being sexual assaulted by her father growing up and it damaged her so much that she murders him when she grew up, she’d be looked at as a victim and the father deserved it.
Vlad did you just say that if they were molested killing their molester isn't the right thing to do I bet you wouldn't be saying that if someone you loved was molested
@4:57 "Whether he was molested or not I don't think that was a justification for what happened" I can't believe Vlad just said that. Thats some insensitive shit. You cant tell a victim that was was molested and raped , how to react when it comes to their abuser, smh 🤦♂. If my Dad did that shit to me and my mom let it happen, trust me i'm blowing both of their fucking heads off also.
Well it’s true!
Yea Vlad is a fed he can't agree with crimes lol
@@CantTellYou Their pre-planning and their actions and behavior after the murders show that they not only planned out the murders but took numerous steps to cover their tracks so that they wouldn't be caught. If evading justice was never their intent for example, why did they collect all the spent shotgun shells from the scene of the crime before the police arrived? Why did they dispose of the rifles they used somewhere in Mulholland Drive before they made their 911 call to the police? Why did they call 911 and say that someone murdered their parents but left out one crucial detail -- that they were the someone who murdered their parents? Why did they tell detectives that the mafia put a hit on their parents? Most people know why, but these folks, including the brothers, they have dozens of excuses on hand to explain and excuse their actions in the hopes that they can make an argument for having their life sentences overturned on appeal.
And keep in mind that the defense tried to claim imperfect self defense in order to secure manslaughter convictions. You purchase your weapons with someone else's ID, murder your parents by storming into their living room with guns blazing and then claim imperfect self defense, irregardless of whatever "future" threat they believed their parents posed to them. If they believed that their parents posed a threat to them in the future, they should have just gotten up and left, call the police, etc..
Unless the parents were in the commission of threatening their lives or well being in that moment they really have no leg to stand on. That's the central question that should be at the heart of the defense, but instead all the defense offered was innuendo, crocodile tears, and unfound claims that the parents were posing an imminent threat to them at the time they were murdered. Sociopaths are accomplished liars and they can conjure up whatever pent up emotion they need to get what they want. I love how supporters like to pretend that there has never been a sociopath in history who ever cried convincingly in court, or in regular life in general. Just look at a number of youtubers. The tears may be real, but the sincerity is absent.
it was premeditated and took advantage of their inheritance
@@CantTellYou Also, keep in mind that right after the brothers murdered their parents in cold blood, they proceeded to shower effusive praise about their parents to the press and during their funeral services. It wasn't until they were being tried for murder that they began wth character assassinating them. Just something worth pondering over, seeing as how the groupies claim that their behavior after their murders were nothing out of the ordinary. There are reasons why the brothers' activities raised the eyebrow of detectives and it wasn't because the brothers were being singled out and persecuted by the Beverly Hills Police Department.
That’s wild how dismissive you are of the two boys’ molestation. I know male victims aren’t usually taken seriously anyway but that’s just sad.
Finally realized who Michael reminds me of. He has a lot of similarities with actor Harvey Keitel. Looks, voice, mannerisms. They could play brothers in a movie.
Lmfao I can’t unsee this now.
looks like a conman to me. buy my pizza! buy my wine! "i knew sammy the bull very well"
then sammy says he never met him in the street 😂 both lying garbage
Yessssss.. I was thinking who does this dude remind me of... thank you
AnnnnnD, and (Liam Newsan/Nison) also
I thought it was him at first glance
That Mark Jackson basketball card with both brothers in the background living it up after they killed their parents, wild as hell.
Man that pic send chills
Same comment 💯 yea that's creepy right
If you watch their movie or the law and order TV show about them it gives more details of why they did what they did they literally live their lives the way they did before they kill their parents but if I was molested and raped constantly since a little child even as an adult still being victimized and told that I can have a life I don't know what I would do to my abusive to escape that life
One of the most expensive basketball cards
Lol i got that card
Love how Michael clearly says he was on the way out when OJ got locked up, then proceeds to talk about spending almost a year with the Menendez brothers. Then Vlad "was that before the OJ case?"
There are too many friends, relatives, coaches, teachers, etc WHO WITNESSED the abuse and Kitty DID have a hand in it. They were legitimately in fear for their lives. It was sadistic abuse. Jose also abused boy bands
Why didn't all these people report the abuse? I don't believe not 1 of them, including the menendez boys, to say they were being so abused they sure did enjoy spending those millions of dollars with a big Cheshire cat smile on their face.
@@annc6046 Well, never let the truth get in the way of your hate
@nonyabiz550 hate for who? 2 ungrateful liars that killed their parents to gain unbridled access to their parents' wealth. I guess murdering the people that gave you life is alright 👍
No there wasn’t and like he said wether they were molested, does not justified for them to kill their parents.
@@malegi29 There were numerous family, friends, coaches, etc who testified to witnessing not only the physical abuse but sexual abuse. You're not even competent to watch the trial and comprehend what's happening. There was a coach who saw Jose punch Lyle as a child. There were cousins and aunts and uncles who saw Jose take Eric in the bedroom while they were staying there. That old ghoul, Dominic Dunn and Diane Dimond both admitted the SA happened. You must be a pedo to say that's not what Jose deserved
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I think his lying . Why don’t he say we’re have he has done time with ? They been in California state prison in sandiego DONOVAN! Michael only done federal prison ? I know
A lot of personal people who have done time with them personally
hard to believe they're still locked up when this psycho murderer raised to murder walked out. That's screwed up.
Did had nothing to offer the government
These interviews are amazing! I could listen to Michael all day long!!
5:08
I don’t know about that. We’re talking about molestation which is a major violation.
So what does that tell you .
The father who worked at a division of RCA did horrible things not just molest them but horrific sexual acts.
“I was on Death Row.”
Lol. Such a rare statement to hear.
Franceese was never on death row. He cooperated with the federal government in 1989 and was never charged with murder. Why would he be on death row? All lies.
If jails are crowded you might be put in a certain section that you normally would not be in. Does not make him a liar
This time period is probably the last time Erik & Lyle were ever together 😔
We never know what we would become given the same situation. If I was being raped by one parent with the other parents blessing from Kindergarten on I’d be fucked up too. Most people go on to hurt strangers, their own kids, and themselves but these two went to the source. Pick your evil - there wasn’t any help and this was the result.
Don’t you know? Everyone on the internet is perfect and they woulda did this and they woulda did that?
The brother were never raped. Their sob story is obviously fabricated. I can't believe so many people actually bought it.
@@ProLifeAtheistXX come on man, have some remorse, you weren’t there so you don’t know, neither do I, so don’t judge these guys, you would’ve most likely did the same, no matter how perfect you THINK you are
@@Cassius-m5v
1. I'm not a man.
2. I don't think I'm perfect, in fact I know I'm not.
3. Murder is unacceptable and the Menendez brothers deserve to rot in prison.
@@ProLifeAtheistXX you really seriously think you would NEVER under ANY circumstances Murder someone???? Come on bro be honest, you can’t say what you won’t do in a situation you’ve never been in , sorry to break it to you but not everyone gets to live a privileged life well protected 24/7 . Anyone who says “murder is unacceptable they must rot” you’ve GOT TO BE living in a fantasy fairy tale land to think there’s never a situation where you must do what you gotta do to LIVE. Kill or be killed & have a fair chance in trial to get out free and be with your family once again. So you mean to tell me if a man of my size ?? (6’0 200 pounds) if a man of my size were to attempt to r@pe you…. You wouldn’t at least TRY to K!ll him ???? I don’t believe it… sorry
men can be victims too 💔
Love listening to Mike great story teller
And liar
Vlad if the father did that, then yes it was very justified
Yea in Prison they kill child molesters, but when the molested do it, its fucked up?
Calling spending the dead parents money "just not smart" shows you how this dude really thinks
Here we go Vlad acting like he knows everything & the story better than it's already been told 😂
Lyle Menendez is if Sam Harris and Ben Stiller had a baby.
I believe they were molested. You couldn't speak about abuse in the 80s. The victim would be sent to mental institution and told they were lying. So nobody spoke up about it. It was shameful to say anything. Victims were shut down. So where does all that anger go.
Michael Franzenes looks like Ra’s Al Ghul .
LMFAOOOOO YOOO
Do I feel bad for their parents? Not even slightly. If the testimony is true, and I do believe it is, they deserved far worse.. may they burn in hell
They are murderers. Convicted.
@@lena_1994 Blaming the victims is lame. It's the oldest game in criminal trials.
@@elijahFree2000 I don't see anyone NOT blaming Epstein who was also a child mol*ster lmao. And he could never defend himself cuz he was guilty af. Same with the brothers' father Jose
Rosie O’Donnell says it’s time to release them. I refused to watch the video or read the article, but that’s what the headline said. She’s gotten rather close with one of the brothers
That ending part was funny hey look theirs daddys friends lol
The way Vlad is discussing them is really unsettling.
Here goes Vlad now he going to interview the ninja brothers
Look, mom, that's Daddy's friends😄🤣😂
I feel really bad for the two brothers they have gon through hell ever since they were born I don’t know if the parents plan on making kids for them to enjoy putting their pain on to their own kids if that was the plan I’m just thinking this might be their way of putting their stress out and it’s really disturbing and very horrifying
When he said "entertainment industry", that pretty much proves it.
X-Raided was locked up with tha brothers too..
Yeah and Lyle helped with his case to get out early.
I always thought if you confessed to a murder that Dr. patient confidentiality was out the door I guess not. Obviously threatening to kill the therapist you're done.
They didn’t threaten the therapist. The therapist told his girlfriend all about it. Then when they broke up she went to the cops and that’s when they opened up the investigation again.
@@dariog36th I never knew that,what a crazy situation altogether. I thought Michael said something about threatening to kill the therapist.
The therapist, Dr Oziel, made up that Lyle threatened him.@@Pops1811
They are both on the same yard together now. I believe they are at Donavan.
They’re in a prison in San Diego. And I think it’s a medium security prison. They get phone calls whenever and don’t use prison uniforms .
Now this is a real ganster kids. Not this rappers who never did sh*t lmao
The father has recently been accused of drugging and raping a 14 year old member of the Menudo music group, that he was the head of.
I worked in a jail with a guy who 💀 his parents, came home, got the parents and his brother. Interesting character that guy was
His name?
This dude is ridiculously attractive for his age
He looks more attractive now then when he was younger
He looks better now but I think it's because he's had his teeth done and it's changed his face shape a bit.
Ok now i dont feel so weird lol
The Menéndez brother’s father was high up in Hollywood. The whole pedophilia thing I totally believe. The trial testimony of Eric on the stand and the tears , he’s either the greatest actor on Earth or he’s telling the truth. I understand why they killed the mom also because she knew what the father was doing to his own son and didn’t do anything. Both brothers should of shut their mouth and not spend a milly in a few months and they would of gotten away with it.
Yeah Jose Menéndez was raping the kids from Menudo in order to sign them to RCA records. And their manager who was also raping them is the one who pimped them out to Jose Menéndez
No exscuse for killing!
@@johnmahland363
I can think of several reason to kill a person that would be morally and legally justified for.
@@johnmahland363 Raping children is an excuse.
The brothers are excellent liars. We know that much. They convincingly lied to police for 7 months before they were arrested.
Every now and then Vlad will say something i didn't know
Michael keeps getting more and more interesting....🤔
2:51 The fact that Vlad believes this BS is just wild to me….
How can you make a video about the case if you only know the headlights in the new?the explained on the stand why they killed their mother too. She abused them just as bad as the father
So what was it like sharing a cell with The Melendez Brothers and Tupac
The man the legend. Mikey is one cool mutha
My Lord Michael Framzese is freaking gorgeous 🤣😂
He is so handsome oh my gosh!
This the interviews we want. Not these goofy as rappers that all faded all interview
Its what you want. Dont speak for everybody.
@@michaelgundersen2982 you speak for yourself not everyone.
Contradicted yourself there a bit goofy
@@yodaddy9362 Go away.
@@369pendulum go make me a sambich 🥪
His body language tells me he didnt believe them when they said they didnt do it
Once is too much with that kind of abuse.
Legit Interview. Thank you.
How are you gonna ask a question when you clearly don’t even know enough about the topic? 🤣 That’s not what happened at all
after they whacked their parents they went out and bought luxury items with the insurance money....yeah they're innocent
That’s kind of crazy that the brothers got to stay together
They didn't
I always love Vlad’s laugh.
I was in there with the ninja killers. Vlad: Wait.. what?
Great interview!
They were raped since they were 6 yrs old I would have done the same thing too
Good to see that not everybody sees this killers as saints and victims
well they are victims, this case did help teach me that male could be victims too, didn't even know that before.
if it was the menandaz sisters, it would be a wholeeeeeee diiiiiiffffereeeeent story.
Hard to pay attention when the drum set is not set up good in background
Really funny about the magazine!
Mark Geragos is working to get them freed right now. He thinks he has a case that they’ve served enough time and aren’t a danger to society.
They have like a 5% chance.
Dats wild 👀
I'm only here for the drum kit.
all I can say is good riddance, Menendez brothers. no child deserves any abuse from their parents.
I disagree with Vlad. If your parents are molesting you then you're definitely justified in killing them. I'm not saying that's what happened to the Mendez brothers though.
@@CantTellYou they failed to convict them the first time. Half the jury did not believe it was 1st degree murder. It took another trial where the judge did not allow any of the evidence that they were molested in their defense.
@@dariog36th still murder
@@mike04574 it would’ve been manslaughter. That’s what half the jury agreed on.
@@dariog36thManslaughter is when you don’t have the intention to kill somebody but you accidentally do such as self defense which is the reason they used, however the defense proved that they planned ahead (premeditated) by buying the guns a week before the murders, using another person’s identity and they ambushed their parents while they were sitting on the couch watching Tv (no self defense).
@@malegi29 well in the 1st trial half the jury agreed it was manslaughter.
lovely anecdote!!! super funny the end "daddys friends" Michael you made my day hahahahahahaha and thanks for your videos I follow you since 2020
After they killed there parents they apparently went on a shopping spree bought houses and lofts in NY and other places but in 1991 I believe not sure the brothers bought court side seats to the Knicks at Madison square garden, if you look up I believe John starks there they are front row... Crazy bet that card is worth something or nothing but it's real. Edit: it's Mark Jackson not John starks
It actually is worth money because they are on it
Vlad you are misinformed regarding the mistress informant. Also Erik was being R’d by Jose all the way thru high school. These boys suffered severely at the hands of their father.
The mother knew what the father was doing. Also the mother was molesting Lyle. While Erik wasn’t being molested he was being R’d all the way thru high school. Learn your facts before making such confident claims.
Lyle Menendez Helped The Homie X-Raided Get Out Of Prison
I heard family killers in general have it tough. I heard about a case where a teenage son killed his parents for the life insurance and he got beat down his first day on the yard and had to pc up.
michael is so great guy!
Got a good laugh at the end there! xD
So uncle junior was right to be paranoid about Tony's shrink as he was venting to Mikey Palmice in golf club locker room..." Remember those 2 who killed their parents...the shrink was in the fuckin witness chair"
Never heard menendez and Ninja's in the same sentence 😅😅
You did not pronounce Tony soprano right
These young men deserve to spend life in prison without parole! Even if molested it doesn’t excuse them for blowing their parents heads off…mom didn’t deserve any of it. Also spending money like they did proves they weren’t too upset at the molestation…they needed an excuse!
Threatening the therapist wasn't what broke the Dr patient contract. Admitting to murder did that.
One of the brothers had confessed to the murders months before the therapist mistress finally told the police that is the only reason they got caught because the mistress was mad that you wouldn't leave his wife for her
Wasn't the father the rapist?
So that's what Junior Soprano was talking about when he found out Tony was seeing a psychiatrist
Thank you Swety for the Audio. 🐄 🐖 🐇
Was he locked up with the Rapper X Raided? He was locked up with the Menendez Bros.
I thought crimes are not protected by doctor/patient or priest/parrisioner privilege...
Worst interview I’ve ever seen.
Vlad’s laugh is something else
Hey mommy there's daddy's friends!!😂😂😂😂
Judalon Smythe tattled to the authorities, that’s how the police found out about Eric Menendez as the killer
Wait........... the Menendez bros are serving in separate prisons
The therapist is a snitch
Pathetic & major sus when Michael & Vlad agreed that killing their parents for molestation / rapist wasn’t justified.
This interviewer need to se the trial again, that is not the reason they were convicted, none of those brothers menendez treating their therapists.