Leung Ting's books on the bare-handed and Wooden dummy forms are very useful as well. Aside from teaching the form, he also demonstrates the applications and points out common mistakes and corrections on body postures and applications.
This is when Kung-Fu went underground and Wing Chun started as a system of its own no longer mixed with the Five Animals Forms. Master Chan Wah Shun was Master Yips first Si-Fu then Master Ng Chung So, then Master Leung Bik. If you wont to ask Master Yip Chun or Master Leung Ting and you will get the same story.
Wing Chun or Wing Tsun or Ving Tsun has religious practices since the creater was a buddist mistress called Ng Mui. The Siu-Nim-Tau form is also called the Saam-Pai-Fut, meaning (Praying thrice to the buddha) Thrice means three times, since you have your hand in wu sau position, which is buddah's palm and you bring it back, then change it into fook sau, push it out with the elbow, then heun sau back into wu sau which is buddah's palm and you do this three times.
If you learn HongKong Wt you may have noticed that yip man lineage perform the Wu-Sao movement in the 3rd set of the Snt at all 4 times ! In chinese term the four stand for death or change. Yip man did that with purpose.
Back in1974 these last two forms where top secret and you had to pay a lot of money to be taught them ,if you could find anyone who was willing to do that
Why do people keep insisting those are added sound fx? I don't see anything wrong or "gay" about Leung Ting's demo here or ving stun in general. There are always slight differences between lineages and families.
the wing chun system (as it is today) has been adapted, modified and simplified - alot of this system's modern names for the technique were from Yip Man himself - when wing chun was at is infancy around the supposed era of Ng Mui (Manchu Period) - what was being taught to practitioners on board the Red Junk Opera would've been different to the stream-lined, modernised version we have now.
wing chun/tsun etc. doesn't matter on the name - there's no standard romanization for cantonese, so the translations are all slightly different - and there's no hard evidence of Ng Mui - rather, more of a fable passed orally - the philosophy roots of the wing chun system are built up through siu nim tao (the little idea form) as all the movements have practical combat application - the wing chun system is a large tool box and the forms are there primarily to help you structure and sharpen them
There is no such thing as a simple form! Although WC might not seem as taxing as other styles...their simple soft moves are actually very difficult to learn properly. You cant learn true kung fu through videos. Someone needs to show and break down EACH move to you. For example a simple punch in the begining HAS to be angled correctly, which is different from most punches. Another example is the turning of the hand to grab someone. They're not easy.
I started learning Wing Chun in 1974 it came from the Siu Lam Monastery that only allowed men in China as in most Eastern countries women were not allowed to learn any warrior arts. In Japan the Samurai wives learned to fight with only select weapons. In China a women could be put to death for learning a martial art. At Siu Lam there was a hall of dummies or dummy ally of different styles when the Monastery was attacked the Dummy Master ran with the dummy we now use.
"I started learning Wing Chun in 1974 it came from the Siu Lam Monastery that only allowed men in China as in most Eastern countries women were not allowed to learn any warrior arts." Western Nations were very anti-Women and equal rights until very recently(Last hundred years or so). Also who said woman in Eastern nations are not allowed to learn warrior arts? Way to blanket a whole group of different peoples, countries and cultures in the East. And last I checked it was the east that allowed women warriors and had the most records of Woman rulers and leaders compared to the West. And Shaolin doe allow women, they are held separately from the mens quarters like in the Catholic Church or in Islamist mosques, for obvious reasons. Are you a troll or just really ignorant?
These are very valuable details of Wing Chun from Leung Ting. Many other performers made some mistakes in their movement. These are the most correct ones.
@@Supermomo2007 I'm very confused with this system.. some say this is the real forms and others that it isn't... can you tell me who teaches the Original forms?
@@saz123ful I'd say Leung Sheung lineage is most real Wing Chun taught nowadays. Mainly because he's Yip Man's first student and when he learned under him, he was one of the top students. Edit: but I don't know for sure. Like, honestly.
Don't these forms make more sense if you assume there are butterfly knives in their hands? The mechanics of Wing Chung forms make alot more sense with weapons in them than empty hands.
I think you are thinking more to the lines of Kali , Escrima, Filipino martial arts. There movements are exactly the same for all weapons; escrima sticks, knives, machete etc, even there empty hand movements are similar/ and that's a good thing; easy to pick up any weapon thats handy (a piece of wood etc..) and use it. They also start training weapons FIRST then when more advanced move on to empty hand, check it out/good stuff. -Cheers
I'm surprised to learn how simple WC is, there's only 3 forms! That's not necessarily a bad thing though as it makes it far easier to learn (though not necessarily to master). Do the 3 forms contain the entirety of WC's movements & theories, or is there more?
3 unarmed forms, third is not necessary to be learn, it is for very difficult situations (with broken arm or very injured). There are other 3 forms - with knifes, wooden dummy and wooden pole. They are much necessary then third form
3rd form is in most cases an extra and it isn't really necessary to learn. All the principles of WC are learned throughout the first 2 forms, then there are lots of other exercises to learn what to do in each situation, for instance if you can only fight with 1 arm etc. As Kostadin said, these form are unarmed forms, without any weapon or tool.
@@adringtm but isn't the third form where you learn elbow strikes? watching the demonstration, it also seems to include boxing style hooks, though admittedly I've never seen a WC practitioner use a hook before--not a skilled one anyway, who wasn't resorting to other arts while sparring.
@@namayake I've been practicing WC for almost 9 years now and I've been resorting more to Bong Sao which is a movement you learn in the first form. Elbow strikes can be useful yes but only in close distance and WC is more about keeping distance between you and the opponent since its more of a defensive style. Again, as you said, elbow strikes can be REALLY powerful and deadly if landed in the right spot, though you rarely find yourself in those situations and often times there are better techniques to use.
@@namayake And before you make any assumptions, WC was always meant to change, Ip Man always said this. WC was created to change and improve over the years. To this day I have yet to find a video where someone uses the rudimental form of WC, which is when the martial art was a its first stages. This is why nowadays there are so many different styles and people call it in different ways, some use kicks more, some use elbows more, some resort to getting the opponent to the ground as fast as possible and so on. WG will keep evolving throughout the years and small adjustments will be made. There are already lots of small variations of all 3 forms and exercises so I wouldn't be surprised If in 10 years we will see a completely new form.
@@jameshutto3047 sadly had to gave a break 4 years ago cuz i went to army after that i got married, divorced then married again now i have a son :D One day i will return to wing tsun with my lil buddy :)
@@larathian yes, of course. But this is more than sports. My teacher did not like us to call is sports, because it is not about competitions. But when you define a walk in the park as sports you are right. To me it‘s more. It helped me to get more self confidence, not only physically, but also mentally in my job and other situations, and to feel safer (I‘m female).
Try to get a book from traditional chinese medicine, there you will find the definition from foundation ( or basic ) force. like 1:Cheng 2:Bao 3:Ding 4:Ning 5:Xuan 6:Zhen 7:Chan 8:Ti 9:Dun 10:Tun 11:Tu 12:Gun 13:Bo 14:Tan To introduce the different "working of forces" is the mastery, after you have learned the "techniks". The sensitivity teaching methods leads you straight to this. Btw only 8 from these forces are common to use in martial arts. It all start's with a proper stand and breathing exercise to focus on your own body.
Why does different teachers of IP Man lineage teach different versions of the forms? Different to what he did. Why not teach the forms like Ip Man did it. There's video footage available online.
what is basically the original name of the first video practice (sentence)? I cant remember it from my master's spoken words. I am pretty sure it contains 's'. Thank you in advance
Wing Chun, Wing Tsun, Ving Tsun is a kung fu practice deeply rooted with Buddhism, Taoism and Confucianism. There is a whole lot more but you are not ready for the truth because you look at the tree, not the whole forest.
@@nordique59 No ! He didn't go to their places. It's only the kungfu people going to XXD ! and got floored. Deserved, cos kungfu is not suitable for tournaments.
Leung Ting is another Level ...when He would be Real Athletic Trained with No Bodyfat and Real Hard Muscles like Bruce Lee .. Leung Ting would be easily a Chinese Hero!!! The most Deadly Hands on Earth Sharp like Sword's Extreme in Manny ways a Concentrated Flexible Power if Executining Form Total Abnormal BUT Weak Body and Stamina No Endurance!!!
You should Notice that when he is Performing the Second form . He is Moving on his heel that Wrong because it take away one Movement . This is Modified Wing Chun ( Correct Spelling) and they don't teach Application of the form . I started my Training in Modified Version and now I train in Real Wing Chun Forms and I Guarantee there is Application for every Movement . I won't Waste my time Practicing Modified because they do it Wrong . Plus Wing Chun don't take 15 to 20 years to Master . Peace ! Keep an Open Mind and you Will Learn ! 😁😁❤❤❤
@@jedi77palmer correction that you because you don't know wing chun or truly understand it . I started my training in Modified version then I learned the correct way to perform the form and applications . If you only practice Modified i can assure you , you won't beat me . Seek and learn ! Don't be closed minded .
Wing Chun or Wing Tsun or Ving Tsun has religious practices since the creater was a buddist mistress called Ng Mui. The Siu-Nim-Tau form is also called the Saam-Pai-Fut, meaning (Praying thrice to the buddha) Thrice means three times, since you have your hand in wu sau position, which is buddah's palm and you bring it back, then change it into fook sau, push it out with the elbow, then heun sau back into wu sau which is buddah's palm and you do this three times.
Leung Ting's books on the bare-handed and Wooden dummy forms are very useful as well. Aside from teaching the form, he also demonstrates the applications and points out common mistakes and corrections on body postures and applications.
梁挺師傅教二字箝羊馬，令我在任何地方都穩定身體，在雪地，震盪的車程，滑地，都隨時可以穩定。
多謝良師！！！！
Leung Ting's Wing Chun is one of the finest styles on Wing Chun
i love the sound effects lol.
This is when Kung-Fu went underground and Wing Chun started as a system of its own no longer mixed with the Five Animals Forms. Master Chan Wah Shun was Master Yips first Si-Fu then Master Ng Chung So, then Master Leung Bik. If you wont to ask Master Yip Chun or Master Leung Ting and you will get the same story.
Wing Chun or Wing Tsun or Ving Tsun has religious practices since the creater was a buddist mistress called Ng Mui. The Siu-Nim-Tau form is also called the Saam-Pai-Fut, meaning (Praying thrice to the buddha) Thrice means three times, since you have your hand in wu sau position, which is buddah's palm and you bring it back, then change it into fook sau, push it out with the elbow, then heun sau back into wu sau which is buddah's palm and you do this three times.
Nobody believes those. History only !
You mustn't have put much thought into it if you believe that
If you learn HongKong Wt you may have noticed that yip man lineage perform the Wu-Sao movement in the 3rd set of the Snt at all 4 times !
In chinese term the four stand for death or change.
Yip man did that with purpose.
Gracias master por ser un aporte super entretenido a las artes marciales Chinas con las formas del Wing Chun,su admirador.
Thanks Grand Master Leung Ting!
Sempre bella da vedere le forme di Leung ting,chi non le capisce e perchè non guarda con attenzione.....😃
Chong NHu
Back in1974 these last two forms where top secret and you had to pay a lot of money to be taught them ,if you could find anyone who was willing to do that
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Why do people keep insisting those are added sound fx? I don't see anything wrong or "gay" about Leung Ting's demo here or ving stun in general. There are always slight differences between lineages and families.
the wing chun system (as it is today) has been adapted, modified and simplified - alot of this system's modern names for the technique were from Yip Man himself - when wing chun was at is infancy around the supposed era of Ng Mui (Manchu Period) - what was being taught to practitioners on board the Red Junk Opera would've been different to the stream-lined, modernised version we have now.
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Can you show us the Red Junk Wingchun?
6:44 "In quick motion we see that the legs turn alternatively"
6:48 well this is awkward
there are 6 forms.3 unarmed the wooden dummy,the long pole and the knifes!
what're their names?
@@yymjyyobjka1302
Empty Hands Forms:
1) Siu Nim [Lim] Tao [Little idea]
2) Chum Kiu [Seeking the Bridge]
3) Biu Jee [Thrusting/Flying Fingers]
Weapons Forms:
4) Muk Jong [Wooden Dummy Form]
5) Luhk Dim Boom Kwan [Dragon Pole]
6) Bart Jam Do [Knives]
Closed-door forms:
7) "Destroying" Wooden Dummy
8) Wing Chun Kicking Form
wing chun/tsun etc. doesn't matter on the name - there's no standard romanization for cantonese, so the translations are all slightly different - and there's no hard evidence of Ng Mui - rather, more of a fable passed orally - the philosophy roots of the wing chun system are built up through siu nim tao (the little idea form) as all the movements have practical combat application - the wing chun system is a large tool box and the forms are there primarily to help you structure and sharpen them
this video is wing tsun to the fullest. love it!!
一个视频囊括三套拳，好！可惜影像不太清晰。
There is no such thing as a simple form! Although WC might not seem as taxing as other styles...their simple soft moves are actually very difficult to learn properly. You cant learn true kung fu through videos. Someone needs to show and break down EACH move to you. For example a simple punch in the begining HAS to be angled correctly, which is different from most punches. Another example is the turning of the hand to grab someone. They're not easy.
which religous practices?
I started learning Wing Chun in 1974 it came from the Siu Lam Monastery that only allowed men in China as in most Eastern countries women were not allowed to learn any warrior arts. In Japan the Samurai wives learned to fight with only select weapons. In China a women could be put to death for learning a martial art. At Siu Lam there was a hall of dummies or dummy ally of different styles when the Monastery was attacked the Dummy Master ran with the dummy we now use.
"I started learning Wing Chun in 1974 it came from the Siu Lam Monastery that only allowed men in China as in most Eastern countries women were not allowed to learn any warrior arts."
Western Nations were very anti-Women and equal rights until very recently(Last hundred years or so).
Also who said woman in Eastern nations are not allowed to learn warrior arts? Way to blanket
a whole group of different peoples, countries and cultures in the East. And last I checked it was the east
that allowed women warriors and had the most records of Woman rulers and leaders compared to the West.
And Shaolin doe allow women, they are held separately from the mens quarters like in the Catholic Church or in Islamist mosques, for obvious reasons. Are you a troll or just really ignorant?
All of what you are saying is according to legend, it isn't factual history.
What a crock
Share the music's titles please
I love the Hollywood magic aspect (sound effects)….
what's the name of music chum kiu ??
I was wondering too. It's a catchy tune.
still wondering
Im still searching for that :/
These are very valuable details of Wing Chun from Leung Ting. Many other performers made some mistakes in their movement. These are the most correct ones.
leung ting is a frad. his wing chun is bad.
@@Supermomo2007 not only bad but also sucks; it is money chun...
@@Supermomo2007 I'm very confused with this system.. some say this is the real forms and others that it isn't... can you tell me who teaches the Original forms?
@@saz123ful I'd say Leung Sheung lineage is most real Wing Chun taught nowadays. Mainly because he's Yip Man's first student and when he learned under him, he was one of the top students.
Edit: but I don't know for sure. Like, honestly.
Muito bom parabéns abraço do sifu Evaristo Amâncio bezerra
Don't these forms make more sense if you assume there are butterfly knives in their hands? The mechanics of Wing Chung forms make alot more sense with weapons in them than empty hands.
I think you are thinking more to the lines of Kali , Escrima, Filipino martial arts. There movements are exactly the same for all weapons; escrima sticks, knives, machete etc, even there empty hand movements are similar/ and that's a good thing; easy to pick up any weapon thats handy (a piece of wood etc..) and use it. They also start training weapons FIRST then when more advanced move on to empty hand, check it out/good stuff. -Cheers
spectacular. thank you
I just want this in slow motion, and a hyperbolic chamber.
nice dbz reference
On the right downward corner, there's a wheel which means settings. Click and turn the speed to the lowest. And you'll have the action in slow motion.
goto settings and set the speed from normal to 0.25
I'm surprised to learn how simple WC is, there's only 3 forms! That's not necessarily a bad thing though as it makes it far easier to learn (though not necessarily to master). Do the 3 forms contain the entirety of WC's movements & theories, or is there more?
3 unarmed forms, third is not necessary to be learn, it is for very difficult situations (with broken arm or very injured). There are other 3 forms - with knifes, wooden dummy and wooden pole. They are much necessary then third form
3rd form is in most cases an extra and it isn't really necessary to learn. All the principles of WC are learned throughout the first 2 forms, then there are lots of other exercises to learn what to do in each situation, for instance if you can only fight with 1 arm etc. As Kostadin said, these form are unarmed forms, without any weapon or tool.
@@adringtm but isn't the third form where you learn elbow strikes? watching the demonstration, it also seems to include boxing style hooks, though admittedly I've never seen a WC practitioner use a hook before--not a skilled one anyway, who wasn't resorting to other arts while sparring.
@@namayake I've been practicing WC for almost 9 years now and I've been resorting more to Bong Sao which is a movement you learn in the first form. Elbow strikes can be useful yes but only in close distance and WC is more about keeping distance between you and the opponent since its more of a defensive style. Again, as you said, elbow strikes can be REALLY powerful and deadly if landed in the right spot, though you rarely find yourself in those situations and often times there are better techniques to use.
@@namayake And before you make any assumptions, WC was always meant to change, Ip Man always said this. WC was created to change and improve over the years. To this day I have yet to find a video where someone uses the rudimental form of WC, which is when the martial art was a its first stages. This is why nowadays there are so many different styles and people call it in different ways, some use kicks more, some use elbows more, some resort to getting the opponent to the ground as fast as possible and so on. WG will keep evolving throughout the years and small adjustments will be made. There are already lots of small variations of all 3 forms and exercises so I wouldn't be surprised If in 10 years we will see a completely new form.
i just finished the 'siu nim tau' :D i will keep going to make this sport :D
Did u?
This is not a sport. It‘s self defence.
@@annemone5568Everything what make you move is sport bud :)
@@jameshutto3047 sadly had to gave a break 4 years ago cuz i went to army after that i got married, divorced then married again now i have a son :D One day i will return to wing tsun with my lil buddy :)
@@larathian yes, of course. But this is more than sports. My teacher did not like us to call is sports, because it is not about competitions. But when you define a walk in the park as sports you are right. To me it‘s more. It helped me to get more self confidence, not only physically, but also mentally in my job and other situations, and to feel safer (I‘m female).
what music is this?
The deadly art of thrusting fingers 👍
Great video! Learned lots of things from this video.
Most feared
So...Sifu Benny Meng says in one of his videos that Chi Sao is only one of 7 or 8 exercises teaching sensitivity. Anyone know anything about that?
T’ai Chi has a sensitivity drill called t’ui shou (push hands), and the system I practice (5 Animals) has some other sensitivity exercises.
Try to get a book from traditional chinese medicine,
there you will find the definition from foundation ( or basic ) force.
like
1:Cheng
2:Bao
3:Ding
4:Ning
5:Xuan
6:Zhen
7:Chan
8:Ti
9:Dun
10:Tun
11:Tu
12:Gun
13:Bo
14:Tan
To introduce the different "working of forces" is the mastery, after you have learned the "techniks".
The sensitivity teaching methods leads you straight to this.
Btw only 8 from these forces are common to use in martial arts.
It all start's with a proper stand and breathing exercise to focus on your own body.
4:19 Piu Chi
das ist so ein mumpiz, echt amüsant und dann noch leung ting, den grössten kasper in der wt welt
wc changes all the time i teach all the versions of the forms i was taught plus some i see on youtube so my forms are long
Why does different teachers of IP Man lineage teach different versions of the forms? Different to what he did. Why not teach the forms like Ip Man did it. There's video footage available online.
@@francoisnel5253 Because they want the forms to suit them, and not the reverse. This exists in all styles. A master changes his style later in life.
Very useful - thank you : )
Very good and accurate manoeuvers
@4:20 Biu Tze
Beautiful!! I 3 WingChun
what is basically the original name of the first video practice (sentence)? I cant remember it from my master's spoken words. I am pretty sure it contains 's'. Thank you in advance
Siu Lim Tao
Siu Nim Tau, （小念頭）Little Idea(s), Little Concept(s)
Siu=Little
Nim Tau=Idea or Concept
@@oObfu Wrong pronunciation gives wrong spelling. In this case, it's called lambdaism (changing the N to L)
2:16
This is the Original Form! If a Sifu tells u to do other things just search an original one, maybe he didnt know better :)
orginal is from yip man its a bit different
Nope you're wrong
there is an entire Gam Sau section that is left out of this form.
Little idea in little idea form talks about the importance of EVERY SINGLE MOVEMENT MADE.
Strong
:) wow you know your stuff
Wing Chun, Wing Tsun, Ving Tsun is a kung fu practice deeply rooted with Buddhism, Taoism and Confucianism. There is a whole lot more but you are not ready for the truth because you look at the tree, not the whole forest.
Just don't tell Xu Xiaodong that! He'll come to you and challenge you and bash you into the ground as he has all the other self-proclaimed masters!
@@nordique59 No ! He didn't go to their places. It's only the kungfu people going to XXD ! and got floored. Deserved, cos kungfu is not suitable for tournaments.
I want to learn Wing Chun
Better avoid this moron then!
Oh but FYI if you're responding to people on a forum it helps to actually reply to them. :P just saying.
Leung Ting is another Level ...when He would be Real Athletic Trained with No Bodyfat and Real Hard Muscles like Bruce Lee ..
Leung Ting would be easily a Chinese Hero!!! The most Deadly Hands on Earth Sharp like Sword's Extreme in Manny ways a Concentrated Flexible Power if Executining Form Total Abnormal BUT Weak Body and Stamina No Endurance!!!
Sifu Evaristo Amâncio bezerra kung-fu wing chun chuan
The man demonstrating Si Lum Tao looked like Sifu Jim Fung. Can anyone confirm that?
+Isaiah Israel Thanks Isaiah. He looks very much Jim Fung and as it was an Australian video, I thought it might be him.
It's definitely not Leung Ting in the first form. Leung Ting performs the second and third.
Empty your cup so that it may be filled
With urine
@@jedi77palmer for you !
@@yymjyyobjka1302 zing!
Y esos sonidos de efwctos ??? Son falson
Il est verite' en tous les mouvements
video wing chun kung fu
2:17
4:20
Yüce dansöz
Barycenter
It all depends on which family you're representing.
There is no "right" or "wrong" movement.
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Darn, no need for the sound effects...
Some of it may not be sound effects. My Si-Hing and Si-Fu both make sounds whenever there is fast hand/arm movements.
it should be the sound of their cloth, otherwise, they must have serious joint issue.
@@MinhTriesClimbing
Look at the punch at 3:08 - the punch is fully extended before the delayed sound effect.
@@MinhTriesClimbing
At 3:12 only his wrist rotates (no cloth is moving), yet there's a sound effect 🤣
But they sound great though so it doesn't hurt to have 'em
+++++++++ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lol...
i guess im not gonna learn wing chun anymore then.( I refuse to do these religous practices).
You should Notice that when he is Performing the Second form . He is Moving on his heel that Wrong because it take away one Movement . This is Modified Wing Chun ( Correct Spelling) and they don't teach Application of the form . I started my Training in Modified Version and now I train in Real Wing Chun Forms and I Guarantee there is Application for every Movement . I won't Waste my time Practicing Modified because they do it Wrong . Plus Wing Chun don't take 15 to 20 years to Master . Peace ! Keep an Open Mind and you Will Learn ! 😁😁❤❤❤
You've been sold a hoax sorry
@@jedi77palmer correction that you because you don't know wing chun or truly understand it . I started my training in Modified version then I learned the correct way to perform the form and applications . If you only practice Modified i can assure you , you won't beat me . Seek and learn ! Don't be closed minded .
@@pastorvidro4174 so sad you've been happily duped. But hey as long as you are happy🙃
@@jedi77palmer No you being duped .
I'm very confused with this system.. some say this is the real forms and others that it isn't... can you tell me who teaches the Original forms?
Nice crappy sound effects
Lol
Wing Chun or Wing Tsun or Ving Tsun has religious practices since the creater was a buddist mistress called Ng Mui. The Siu-Nim-Tau form is also called the Saam-Pai-Fut, meaning (Praying thrice to the buddha) Thrice means three times, since you have your hand in wu sau position, which is buddah's palm and you bring it back, then change it into fook sau, push it out with the elbow, then heun sau back into wu sau which is buddah's palm and you do this three times.
excellent explanation; thank you...
@@EMIRERCAN what does this explain?