Simon Jordan Vs Russell Brand | Football Is Nice
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- Опубліковано 22 чер 2023
- Welcome to Football is Nice with me, Russell Brand. This week, I’m joined by Simon Jordan, a successful entrepreneur and acclaimed TalkSPORT host for a fun and fiery debate, talking about foreign investments in sport, whether fans could run their beloved clubs, football fairytales like the incredible journey of Wrexham and the top traits of leadership.
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Actually really enjoy Simon when he has someone like you to balance it out
Could be said in return. Love Brand, but sometimes he drives too much into idealism.
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Simon = top LAD proper clobber
SJ is actual money for viewing
@@MW92.how many accs do you have? You spam the same thing on every SJ video
Both truely elite and unrivalled communicators in media. The whole podcast was poetry.
Proper working class London boy accent as well feels like a debate competition taking place in Islington 😂
Simon = top LAD proper clobber.
The DON speaks only in fluent fact and truth
@@MW92.no one is noticing you
@@mikehunt4631 cry more for the jordanites kid
@@skp8748 He's from Thornton Heath, what's your point.
I listen to Talksport most days and love Simon. Sometimes he just argues for the sake of it on Talksport but here he is so calm, measured, unflustered, intelligent and eloquent. Even when Russel is getting angry and aggressive it doesn't phase him. So interesting to listen to.
Simon is exactly what Russell needs, which is someone who just brings a bit of balance to some of his thoughts. The pairing I never knew I needed!
And vice versa.
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Simon & Russell are great together! You two should have a weekly podcast about this stuff
100% this is the best I've Simon Jordan. He clearly respects russell on as an intellectual and identifies with him culturally enough to hear out points he'd normally condescendingly dismiss and disparage. Russell also is free enough to engage in the conversation informally and posit his arguments/viewpoints without a sanctimonious tone
Ying and yang
This could have been 3 hours long and I'd still listen. Fantastic.
coulda been 12. class podcast
Simon did well pointing out the many hypocrisies of Brand
Brand very quickly backpedals and distinguishes between the individual and the 'corporation' when challenged.
@@henrypage8951 Typical marxist ideology tends to do that
We all have hypocrisys if your living in a system that encourages that behaviour
Brand is a narcissist who like all narcissist's want's to be the centre of attention at all time's. He in my opinion is your stereotypical pseudo intellectual who changed tack from a woke lefty to so called truth teller to court the masses who once upon a time saw him as joke. Indeed Brand the unlimited immigration enthusiast called Nigel Farage a pound shop Enoch Powell live T.V. Of course that is a subject he no longer talks about because he knows that wouldn't go down well with his new found devotees
@@peterf08 ...is something a hypocrite says when they've been rumbled.
Holy smokes, I feel like I'm getting an advanced English/Grammar class listening to Simon & Russell. When I was out mucking around as a kid, you two were reading books.
This was great as Simon kept jumping in and stopped Russel going into one of his trademark 9 minute long questions
Probably learnt that from Jim on talk sport 😂
The podcast we’ve all been waiting for! Huge love for Simon and Russell
Simon = top LAD proper clobber
@@MW92. my hero 😂
@@ryanevans7283 welcome to the jordanites association club Ryan 🤝
@@MW92. I’ve been a member for years 😂
Listening to these two men talk on anything can enhance your vocabulary tenfold. Great conversation, chaps.
Simon “Have you read the book ….”
Russell “ I don’t even read the books I write “
The boy is so sharp he could cut himself. Excellent debate, interesting and insightful. Thank you
"They are bottling it and selling it, that's part of the bloody problem" G'wan Russell!
Russell, please join forces with Simon and start a whole Football Podcast / production company on your own. You guys would blow everyone else out of the water. You and Simon's DEEP football insights and content and interviews are unparalleled. It's football thinking man's stuff. High brow sh*t. We need it!
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Certainly would be better than Rios Five
Arguably two of the best in the game right now and notably have both lived colourful and dramatic lives so you can guarantee their substance. Simon Jordan, top fella proper clobber.
The amount of poshness in that room is insane love these two 😂
Russell was on the ropes the whole second half of conversation. Loved this debate🔥
In which way? didn’t seem he backed down at any point
And so this is where Jordan's use of "apotropaic" came from. He slid it in beautifully 😂
Word of the day bogroll
Could listen to these two debate all day long! Would be a brilliant tv pairing.
Please Russell make this a regular thing!!
I dipped into this at 38:23. Simon said the following:
You're sort of forecasting this dystopian future where football becomes something that is simply an end game for people with nefarious motives, or alternative intentions. Everyone's got an intention. Very few people have got an intention simply to do it for the love of football, right? Everyone wants to get something from it. So with that in mind, I've just given you a case in point where Luton in our leagues have proven the point that there is still the value of football being built in a certain way for the people from the people because of the people, right? Yeah. And we don't we don't, we don't lose the vibrancy of football, by the nature of ownership models that might have different intentions. We we we muddy the messages sometimes and we allow the broadcast world to fulfil the outcomes when we're constantly being listening to broadcasters pumping societal messages through football. You and I have discussed this on other platforms about the nature of football being leverage for other people's agendas and how that should be or could be a would be or shouldn't be. Yeah, in my view on the agenda...
This is just waffle. This is not an intelligent person talking. Intelligent people make clear points in succinct language.
You clearly have a lot of time on your hands.
@@jacklimbhd8431 I don't have a lot of time on my hands, hence I didn't listen to the whole hour of waffle. I listened to one statement that I picked completely at random, and it was the same sort of word salad, as the Americans like to describe it, that I've heard on TS, and indeed that he spouts endlessly. If I had a lot of time on my hands, I would have listened to the whole hour of his rambling, circuitous nonsense.
I love them both. They bounce back and forth so well.
Been waiting for this and will watch every episode. The perfect match
Seeing a depth from Simon I wasn’t aware was there. Brilliant interview.
Please do more with Simon. This was great
"You look like a scarecrow with an ambition to model" 👌💯😂😂😂😂
Nice chat. Thoroughly enjoyed it. From an AFC Wimbledon fan. PS thanks for putting us up from 1990 to 2002.
The battle of who can use the most words to make the simplest point
Fascinating conversation. These two should be right at the top of football conversations.
Can we have weekly show, with these two talking about football matters. Really enjoyed it.
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We need more of this!!!!!! Could listen to these wordsmiths all day!,
Hats off to Simon for coming on here not often people from legacy media put their neck outs like he has done he is marmite you love him or hate him but for me he talks sense especially about football keep this up Russell mate your a legend
Could listen to this all day
This was lovely and well balanced. Holy shit boys! Absolutely smashed it and loved it lmao 😂
Love the poetic exchanges and the chemistry between the two ....Thanks for the upload
Simon and Russell need their own podcast
Great podcast! Really enjoyed it, you should make it more regular
This convo is beyond my pay grade and not in line with my working hours I’m currently contracted….back later with my dictionary👍🏿
I can assure you that I do not envy the Premier League. I support a 2nd division team here in Germany. That's your premiership I believe. I'm not a leftist, actually far from it, but Russell has a good point. I am in awe of Man City's sporting achievement, and I take my hat off to everyone working there. BUT they ARE going to dominate the Premier League and the Champions League for years to come. Not even Munich or Barca can compete. Football culture? Over here, the huge choreographies and the fireworks are financed and created by fans in nightshifts. There is still stands, and everyone can still get in for a 10 quid. What's the situation like in Manchester? The choreographies are financed by some dodgy owner, and the atmosphere is appalling if they are not winning. The fans attending are not aficionados, they are clients. I do not envy England. Growing up, it was the promised land. I remember watching the highlights, with Barnes and Fowler for Liverpool. Seeing it now, it is just sad to see how commercialized it has become. Russell is right. "It does not mean anything anymore".
Seems strange but it's gone full circle. I used to think German football was great but there crowds weren't up to much. Now the crowds in Germany are the best in the world
Could’ve listened for another hour. Great perspectives from both sides.
Why are you attacking us Russell? 😂 I'm oj, I grew up in wrexham and now have my own family here, Im in my mid 30s and I know many ppl that until now have never seen a wrexham game, it's been a source of embarrassment for us for years and now we are seeing our town benefit massively, these two A listers have brought us all together again! I have never seen this town this positive my entire life! We owe Ryan and Rob and we need to hope they remain interested in us!
4:30 and I’m creasing 😅 these two 😂
Best hour of podcast I’ve listened to…
Loved that podcast. Great debate.
The perfect pairing, good cop bad cop, 2 completely different people but also very similar, nice they can have a good conversation,debate and disagreement yet do it in a friendly entertaining way
I personally de platformed / blacklisted TalkSport and have refused to consume any of their content a few years now, so good to get to listen to Simon Jordan.
Two very bright individuals, great show gents, thank you
These two are like the intellectual Morcambe and Wise. Loved it.
This was quite the verbal battle. Needed the dictionary and thesaurus for this one.
These two work well together, who would have thought it 👍
A mediator in between this gentleman like we have here is essential
Simon's point on growing the PL like Netflix is spot on!
The buddy cop duo we never knew we needed!
What a termendous conversation about football. This works, you should do more.
Very balanced, both are brilliant in different but somehow the same way. Brilliant 👏👏👏
these 2 talk at the same pace, it works perfectly
Russell and Simon are brilliant, I could listen to them all day.
need this to be a series!
Looking forward to this one 😀
I love both of these linguistic tongue wrestlers. My Bookie Wook is a great read. I gave it to my Brazilian friend in Helsinki and he loved it. I have to buy Simons's book also. Talksport legend already
They should get Russel on talksport weekly with Simon great chat
Thanks guys. Great convo
So much fun to listen to these amazingly intelligent punters
just class, adore them both
Verbal jousting of the highest order-fabulous.And what an intro from Russell!
Great conversation 👏🏻, enjoyed that.
Brilliant content.This reminds me of when Russell met Candace Owens: Russell puts forward some romantic, utopian notions of how things could be only to be effectively countered by hard nosed, practical, commercial realism. Well done for trying Russell but, despite the superior vocabulary, very few win when arguing with Simon Jordan.
Difference is Simon Jordan is a fairly intelligent human being....Candace Owens on the other hand...
@@acg9743 not entirely fair, she managed to charm Russell ua-cam.com/video/F-OeKV1JZGI/v-deo.html
It's easy to identify realism because that's what we are living in
Coming up with new ideas and concepts is what intellectuals do
Russell knows the reality at this moment in time and doesn't like it
I think the point Russell was making is that perhaps the commercial side of things shouldn't be above everything else. If all the premier league stars moved to saudi arabia I'd still rather watch my local team in the third division than tune into the saudi league because it feels like you're a part of something.
If the entire pyramid falls because the premier league moves to an f1 style calendar then that would be an absolute travesty. Simon argues that regulation kills industry but actually it preserves industry. It just prevents absolute commercialisation of certain areas of industry. The same can be said of water or electricity which Russell does touch on.
@@DeanRTaylor I don't disagree, but Russell's argument rested on the idea of those public assets being 'taken' from those who currently own them. In a revolution that might be possible but in the normal course of events that would involve the state buying them back. I presume at great expense.
In the same way, buying extremely valuable football clubs off ruthless international (mostly American) corporate entities and wealthy soveriegn nations (mostly oil rich Arab states) would most likely be ruinessly expensive?
Even taking back water and power into public ownership would only be possible with huge outlay of public funds. Given the current state of our economy, its hard to imagine football teams being very high on the nation's shopping list, even if there was popular consent for the idea (which I doubt).
As much as I'd support it, t's a bit of a dream at the moment isn't it?
Just thought I’d sit and listen to words I don’t know the meaning of for 1 hour and I loved it
Josh Windass learned his trade at Aberdeen... A team that suffers heavily from the current financial structuring of the English Premier league. As Scotland remains part of the United Kingdom, and the media outlets therein... the divvying of the pot and self justification of the stranglehold has meant that once European Champions have been left a few bounced cheques away from bankruptcy. They were the last team in Scotland outwith the Old Firm to win the now monopolistic Scottish Premier League... in 1984... Which is also a very good read.
Brilliant, that's all to say. Informative insight and great relaxed conversation.
I gainned Intellect listening to this, we need a part 2!
Great debating
More pls
Simon Jordan We Salute You ✊️
This was absolutely brilliant. I don't always agree with Simon but I always know he's sayin what he actually believes rather than just saying things formthe sake of it
Yeh I agree and tbh you don't get too many people these days backing their point of view..he says what he thinks and thats refreshing..even if you don't agree
@@ltappy4212when it doesn’t involve going against someone he gets paid by, like Levy.
They are the Ying to the other's Yang. Debating gold..! Well done both... 🍻
I'm watching this before it gets taken off air 😂
More of this please
adore these two 💞
Simon Jordan x Russell Brand = Literature 🤌🏽
These 2 are the same difference. Great stuff
Endearing image, young boys in the park, jumpers for goalposts!
This was mega. More of you 2 dorks please.
These two are great together
Great pair, must do this again!
This is fantastic. Fair play to both
Simon and Russell
Really fun interview, loves the banter
I would legit pay to watch you two every week
Love Simon
Good episode.👍
The idealist meets the realist!
Smaller clubs tend to maintain their grass roots nature due to the lack of exposure to the corporate influence. Also their fans are generally concentrated in their local geographic.
I would like to see the wrexham owners on this show.
Thanks
Kane
Really enjoyed this one
great podcast, two awesome people
Been waiting ages for you two to chat it out... I have my thesaurus at the ready! Make this a regular partnership (please)
Thanks Stan
Nice conversation, neither of these fine gentelemen didn't really want to "win" debate. Respect was easy to sense...
Brilliant chat this
Simon & Russell brilliant👍🇦🇺
Amazing conversation!
Simon took the W here I think. Top work from both sides.