Rosemary's Baby (1968) Paramount UHD Review - Worth UPGRADING Over The Criterion?
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Come check out my latest 4K Review of this 1968 horror classic "Rosemary's Baby" and find out if this release from Paramount is worth your time and money over the Criterion Collection version.
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THANK YOU for going into the A24 comparison. Unfortunately, I've seen a lot of younger/newer horror fans over the last five or so years talk about how A24 is revolutionizing the genre. I've even heard people say the past years have been the best years in horror ever because of A24. I've talked to these people and most of them don't watch any movies that came out before the 90s. Little do they know, there is no such thing as elevated horror. It's psychological horror and cult/folk horror, and both of those genres have been around for decades. My hope is they all decide to go back and take in some of the classics like I did when I was younger because there are many great films from decades past and you get a greater appreciation for the genre.
Yes. That's why I make those comparisons. In hopes that younger viewers will realize that and go back and watch these classics!
@@midlevelmediaThanks for the honest review, Ken. I love the movie but I think I’ll be sticking with my criterion disc for the reasons you stated.
@@jamesphillips4599 You're welcome. That's a great looking disc, so I don't blame you.
I hate the millennial term elevated horror. However A24 Is definitely on the top of the list as far as putting out QUALITY horror.
A24 is pretty much the only thing keeping my faith in modern film making alive.
Yes, Rosemary's Baby is the king of horror, or at least top 3 all time imo. I think the main factor that separates it from the pack is the intelligence of the script; it somehow manages the impossible, turning a 2 hr. movie into the immersive depth of a novel.
Was lucky enough to see this film for the very first time on the big screen when I was in college at USC in the late 1990's. I was a film minor in addition to my major in architecture. "Rosemary's Baby" was one of the films that we screened in our "History of Cinema" course from 1950 to present day. Classic film for so many reasons and a great example of the culture of the late 1960s. It was a controversial film at the time and continues to be for other reasons today but that's what makes it so intriguing and unsettling. Happy to have it in my collection finally.
Yes, the 4K plays somewhat darker than the Criterion. However, as we watched them back to back, the Criterion seemed to hot, with some scenes playing artificially too bright and too soft. The dialog was off sync, at the beginning, but "reversing" the film back a short bit and replaying it, cleared the problem right up. Not necessary to stop the player and start over. Just a quick reverse seems to do the trick. This seems a minor hiccup, that is easily fixed. We agree with you about all the criticism of Roman Polanski. He's a great director, and we have no intention of ridding ourselves of his films. Not watching his films solves nothing. Absolutely nothing. His talent, as a director, goes unchallenged for originality, the outstanding performances he gets from actors, the moods his films are imbued, impeccable directing and editing. So glad to hear how much you like "Rosemary's Baby." What makes it so eerie is that it's about atmosphere, foreboding, and the anxiety inducing anticipation that comes from not knowing what's coming, who to trust and who to fear. It's not about the pyrotechnics and in-your-face graphic horror, but Polanski's trusting in the audience to give them a slow-burn, and unsettling film of ever growing menace. Loved it in the theater, decades back ... and still enjoy one of the premier horror films of all time. A classic in every sense of the world ... and was on its initial release.
Excellent comments about why the film succeeds. I must mention audio/video sync problems. That's an issue I've noticed several times when watching films on disc, particularly 4k discs. On my Sony ubp-700m player it has a control to adjust a/v synch that fixes the issue, but then I have to readjust on a subsequent film. I think this issue is relatively common where player and sound system don't communicate perfectly at all times.
I have an old professional Paramount DVD from 2006, the colors are fine. The video clips online mostly look like they have a brownish filter on them.
Couldn't agree more with everything you said about the film Holly. Love it so much!
I noticed an issue with the audio sync in the beginning also. I was worried it was my player, havent heard anyone else mention it. Little disappointing. Hope they fix it and offer replacement discs.
Yeah. Hopefully someone else addresses it. Glad you did, so I know I'm not crazy. Lol
Hundreds, sometimes thousands of people are involved in the making of a single movie! With that many people involved, the chances of you finding one without any bad apples in the crew are very slim!
I am glad I have it on 4K. I'm looking forward to watching it this spookey season.
You'll love it!
knowing the original artwork is underneath that slip, for once i wouldn't mind not getting a slipcover
I’m good with my criterion edition. Good to know the movie got a nice 4k treatment. Thanks for the review Ken!
I watched Rosemary's Baby last night, for the first time in 20 to 30 years. I believe I saw it on DVD or a movie channel, so the picture was very much improved but I did notice that most of the scenes played a little dark. I agree the dream sequence was the visual peak.
I found myself hating her neighbors and her husband way more this time, than the first time, though.
One of the few films I have ever double dipped on, this and the Criterion.
It seems a lot of people are glossing over the cover, if you look carefully you’ll see Rosemary pregnant with a baby carriage in black. But you also see the devil in green with his mouth open with teeth.
Great review and love you Ken. Hope they restore the audio and include Spanish Subtittles.
Roman Polanski has made some of my favorite movies. Have the Paramount blu and the 4K is on the way 👍
The image on the 4K generally looks a little soft, but it must be the way it’s filmed because there are a couple shots that are super crisp HD like the close-up of the tannis charm With Rosemary’s sweater.
I thought the same thing when I popped the 4k disk in my player. I thought it didn't look sharp. Good to know it is the source material.
I noticed that audio issue too. I also have the criterion blu ray but I'm a big fan of the movie so i had to get the 4K.
Great review. I just picked up a copy from Amazon canada and cant wait to rewatch this. I haven't watched this in over 20 years when I rented it from the local video store.
For some reason it didn't come with the slipcase here in Canada.😢
Aside from the audio sync issue, there is actual dialogue missing near the end when Rosemary is in labor. Instead of hearing Dr. Sapirstein say, "We happen to be in labor here", all you hear is the last word of that line (here). The full line of dialogue is present on the Criterion disc and the standard Paramount blu-ray from a few years ago. This is certainly the best looking release we have so far, but I consider it defunct on account of the audio issues. Paramount would really impress me if they did a disc replacement program for this one, but I won't hold my breath.
Ohhhh wow. I don't know the movie well enough to have noticed that, but very interesting and even more of a reason to hold onto your Criterion.
Rosemary’s Baby is a masterclass in making good horror without relying on unnecessarily relying on too many jump scares
This movie was really stellar...for its time in cinema history. Without alot of SPX's...just good acting,mounting suspense and good exposition. The scene where you see the close up of Satan's eyes is always a shocker. another example of practical organic effects. This and the Omen are several of my favorites. Great review...lots of depth and personal reflection.
Rosemary's Baby Criterion is only going for 35 now since this 4K came out
Ohhh cool.
My copy is also badly out of sync, and it stays that way throughout. I think your mind gets slightly used to it, but, sadly, for me it’s enough out that that never happens. I wrote to Paramount and three months later they sent me a replacement with the exact same problem. Such a shame. This film deserves much better treatment.
Kinda random but do you know when the next Criterion sale is?
November Barnes And Noble. And possibly a flash Sale this month
@@midlevelmedia Awesome 👌 thank you very much for the information. 👍
Great review - first time watch all the way through for me. I think the very “pale” look of the original film is what may contribute to not seeing a large difference from the blu ray. I’m going to get the Criterion 2nd market for the historical context of it, but I did think the 4k looked good for a 55 year old film. Wondering if it was just “original intent” of that controversial Director 😉 Not sure but I get your point. The red is what popped the most in this film. Otherwise the rest of it just looked “pale” to me.
Loving the content on this channel! Now I’m going to admit something sad. I’ve never seen Rosemary’s Baby. It’s one of those things I guess. You’ll get around to eventually, then the years just go by. That’s about to change. I’ll be picking this up if I can’t find the Criterion.
Grab it if you can't find the Criterion for cheap for sure
This is the second review I watched for this movie. Movie guy 365 pretty much shut the same thing you did. I'll buy this 4K because I never upgrade it from d v d. This movie is awesome because of Mia Farrow
Not in a hurry to trade in my Criterion Blu-ray. Glad I saw this. The 4k is on sale for $14 though...
Totally agree. Up there with top 10 best horror films ever made.
I'd probably buy this if they'd put it out as a steelbook, but it's a hard sell to upgrade as is.
My dvd has those features. Wish there was more
I only just now noticed the dual nature of the coverart! Green-horned demon’s face with fangs or a pregnant Rosemary? It’s better knowing this!
Would you say the criterion Blu-ray is still better than the Blu-ray Disc this 4K release came with?
I had the same issue with the syncing but after I turned the 4K player off and put it back on it worked and didn't notice any other audio issue.
great review of rosemary's baby ken
roman polanski is a interesting director
you made some interesting comparisons to a24
and seperating the art from the artist
i couldnt agree more
my thoughts on the film:
polanski did manage to do this film justice
which is a good thing
thoughts on the director:
polanski directed lots of movies after this
he later directed a version of Macbeth which was in 1971
polanski also later directed chinatown with jack nicholson which was in 1974
BEFORE Nicholson directed the sequel the two jakes in 1990
then you have a movie called the tenant which polanski directed,
then you also have a movie polanski directed called Tess which was from 1979
then polanski directed pirates in 1986
polanski also later directed Frantic with harrison ford which is a 1988 suspense film which is a film that Pre-dates the andrew davis the fugitive film, because the situations in frantic seem similar to the fugitive
polanski also directed a movie called bitter moon which has peter coyote and hugh grant, that film was in 1992
then you also have death and the maiden from 1994, the pianist from 2002, oliver twist from 2005, and venus in fur from 2013
the point i am making :
there is a arguement to be made about seperating the art from the artist
or the art from the director
we should appreciate his work, Not judge him just because he was getting in a lot of crazy situations with critics
Physical media can’t die yet.. not until I get my Ernest scared stupid 4k disc haha!
You ain't lying my friend. An Ernest 4K boxset is all I need.
Hey, if we just got a legend of boggy creek 4k disc (which I am a fan of), an Ernest 4k set isn’t too much to ask for.
I’ve always liked this movie but I’ve always thought that they should’ve elaborated more on the baby, I don’t hate anyone but he is a very good director.
Great review on rosemary's baby.
Thank you!
I first knew about Rosemary's Baby in Fangoria and was intrigued. Then I recorded the previews for Scream Greats:Satanism And Witchcraft and they show scenes from the movie and I was even more intrigued. But no video club had the VHS. Eventually I was able to buy the VHS and I enjoyed it but it was a one time watch. Once you watch it there's no reason to rewatch it in 10 or 20 years. Anyway a lot of people love Rosemary's Baby but I found it slow and boring. Good review and cool video Ken!👉😃👈
Rosemary`s baby. The best horror movie of all time, i know i am an old school movie nerd, but come on, this is real horror, this one is so creepy, it gets under your skin, and never lets go, the last 15 mins is so intens. Roman Polanski has done some really great stuff, with this one being one of his best. So thank you for your review, The exorcist is number 2, for me anyway. Both ,are great master pieces with the devil in focus.
I can't say your wrong there. This is a damn horror masterpiece.
I've never seen the film but heard paramount will be doing replacement disks for this I'll wait till I get my replacement disc then I'll watch it
His Eyes Ken!!! HIS FREAKING EYES!!!🔥🤘
Does the Criterion version have the same audio sync issues or is that on both releases?
The sound bar has a complicated setting to sync the sound. Had to figure it out when I got tremors 4K. Does it no matter what format stream dvd etc.
everyone should seperate art from artist
Explain please. Polanski is a recognized pedophile.
Controversial? That's an interesting way to describe a rapist.
I'm the type of snob that'll oftentimes avoid buying a movie if the slipcover is missing. Yet I bought this and took the slipcover off, pleased that the original coverart is on the main case.
I don't miiind the amateurly executed design on the slipcover per se, but I can do without it. The original is just classic
Very good review of Rosemary's Baby Ken I'd like to see it 👍👍😈😈🆒🆒
Stone cold classic.
I can remember being a little kid, in the mid 70s, as when the ad for the movie when come on the tv, I’d run 😂
“What have you done to its eyes!”
The 3 tv movies ads I really remember from the 1970s are Exorcist, Rosemary’s Baby, and Amityville Horror
The thing I hate most about that slipcover is the goofy fangs on satan and that white dot for an eye. When I saw that, I yelled, “what have you done to it’s eye?!”
Check out “Horror Hotel” from 1961. Witches, Christopher Lee, human sacrifice. You’ll love it!
Thanks for the recommendation!
Criterion classic cover looks so much better.
The resolution and detail look great on the 4K, but the colors are so washed out. I was not impressed, and ended up re-watching the Criterion BD.
Agreed
Witch lighthouse is Chris Columbus
Robert Eggers
I agree with you in regards to people piling on about Polanski. It's kind of like people getting angry over what YOU rank #44 in your personal favorite top 50 or 100 movies. It's like - some people don't want you to like anything other than what they like? No subjectivity for you and everyone must agree with said viewer/commenter?
If you ever have a daughter, and she is raped at age 12 by a man who goes on to an illustrious career and never punished, but only praised, you might be singing a different tune.
@@Jennifer_150 Did you listen to what Ken said? Ken does not condone his actions and neither do I. Many other people worked hard on the movie, not just him. Who shot it? Who edited it? Scored it? Acted in it? Do we throw them under the bus as well because of one person, or can we appreciate their work and the movie? I am echoing what Ken said in the video.
@@JanManChronicles I don’t know. I pose the question back to you. If it was *your* daughter, niece, wife, mother, sister, brother… if someone close to you was sexually assaulted, would you still support the film? Because hey, Craft Services worked really hard!
Would you be able to watch and support the movie, which, without Polanski would never have been made?
How many people in the industry were complicit in covering up his actions? And even though it was decades ago, for some of us, it just still feels wrong. For some, it’s empty virtue-signalling, for others, it actually hits too close to home to stomach.
For me, it was the casual dismissal from the channel creator that was like, ok, blah blah blah gotta get this out of the way or (eye roll) I’m going to get a lot of blowback about a sexual predator who made a great movie. 🙄 But I am SO enlightened that I can intellectually separate the art from the artist. And that makes me superior.
Ugh. That arrogance and ignorance and dismissal of Polanski’s well-documented crimes just made me lose all respect.
@@Jennifer_150 So if the editor of the movie did what Polanski did, would you feel the same way and be so diligent about not supporting the movie? The credits I mentioned do A LOT of work on the movie; you mentioning “craft services” just seems like an attempt to undercut or undervalue their work, people who worked hard on the movie YEARS BEFORE Polanski was convicted. I wouldn’t dismiss or incriminate their significant contributions to the movie based on association before any actions or information about Polanski was brought to light. But the real question is, why are you watching and therefore supporting a reviewer’s review of a movie you hate or don’t support?
I think they reached out to Polanski to help fund Sound of Freedom, but they never heard back
😂 You didn’t watch the included Blu-ray disc that came with the 4k, yet you’re ASSUMING that the 4k looks better!? Do you have any idea of what you are doing 🤔🤣!?
To be fair, I watched the Criterion bluray and that's really what I'm comparing here.
I hear Ken. Separate the art from the artist… I was a little miffed when he got the Oscar for the Pianist over Scorsese for gangs of NY. Like the man can’t produce a runny fart without the academy recognizing him for it
I get what you're saying but I don't think a runny fart is an apt comparison for The Pianist, ha. It's pretty good. Besides he's made several movies since that win that didn't get recognized so clearly they don't just reward or nominate him for anything. Though a small bit of that may be due to the controversy of that win...but nearly everything Scorsese makes gets at least nominated it seems.
@@Amanda-kd1zr that was a weak year generally. Adrian brody and Holocaust movies neither one excite me but it was fine enough. The controversy to me isn’t the controversy itself (to me atleast). Luc besson could be similarly criticized (and is) but it’s hollywoods refusal to revoke his darling status all those years later. The attitude felt like they were honoring his movie and he was like a political exile like Nelson Mandela or something. It’s only been since metoo that anybody in Hollywood wouldn’t die on that hill. Happy to watch any good movies. I’m old and I have thoughts haha. I do hope you appreciated the joke even if it’s not strictly accurate.
Can you ever really separate the art from a pedophile? Should you?
@@Jennifer_150 being with a girl that’s 15/16 is illegal (in California)and wrong but it takes away from what an actual “pedophile” is. Being attracted to pre pubescent children is a real thing and it’s sick as hell. And yeah it’s pretty easy either way. You watch the movie and take it on it’s own merit. If nobody talked about Polanski you wouldn’t know. Just pretend you don’t know. It’s not like Leon the professional… in which not only is luc besson probably more question than Polanski but the movie itself (especially the directors cut) actually has a bit of questionable content related to a young girl.
This movie isn't just in my top 10 horror movies of all time but in my top 10 films period. Roman Polanski is a bad guy but hundreds of people worked on this film and is a finale product of a large collaboration. I'm not going to take away from the work of many due to a bad apple.
Couldn't agree more and that's why I'll never condemn a film because of one person involved being a dirtbag.
@@deckard97 He drugged and sodomized a 13 y/o. Yes the guy is a scumbag. That's a fact
@@midlevelmediaAfter it became known the man is a pedophile, there is no reason why anyone should work with the guy. He is a fugitive of the United States. Anyone supporting this man after the fact should absolutely be condemned
@@deckard97his problems stem from the dreaded R word, enough said but yea I can also separate the art from the artist.
I went into watching The Exorcist with a lot of expectations because people said it was the greatest horror flick of all time and I was disappointed when I watched it the first time. I was like “This is it?” But I went into watching Rosemary Baby expecting to be disappointed, I was pleasantly surprised. It’s was really good and original. I like The Witch, but as an American it’s really hard to understand that old English style vocabulary, even Irish accented people I have a hard time deciphering the words.
It's strange for me that americans have a hard time with the dialect in The Witch. I'm german and for me it sounds like many other english dialects and I have no trouble understanding it. It seems as if not being a native speakers helps in this one case. ^^
I was also disappointed by The Exorcist. It just doesn't work for me. But I have that problem with possession stories in general.
Rosemaries Baby is great however. I must admit that I find it kind of comical at points also. But that's fun and doesn't necessarily take away from the horror.
@@bened22 yea to me cult satanist people have a corny, sadistic sense of humor portrayed in the movie. They all smile with a weird grin almost like overdoing it. To me old English is like the equivalent of a drunk person slurring their speech in the “Kings English. “ I think comparing other languages styles American English is a more slow and layed back kind of style. I perceive other languages as fast and sometimes screaming at each other in normal conversations lol.
The devil on the slipcover makes think of the Seinfeld Pig Boy episode. That "piece of shit" also directed one of my other favorites, Chinatown. You should check out City of the Dead aka Horror Hotel from 1960 for another creepy older witchcraft film.
I’m lucky enough to have the Criterion BluRay so I’m set. That 4K cover is horrendous 😂. Anyone out there who hasn’t read the book should do themselves a favor and read it, you’ll be surprised with how the movie is almost a beat for beat retelling of the book yet, as usual, you get a little more info with the novel. The dream sequence especially is explained in detail in the book. Incredible movie
bummed to hear about the pitchure.....was hoping it to be great
I was disappointed while watching it. No different than the blu ray to me.
I don’t expect every 4K release to look crisp or have that pop. But this transfer makes it look dated and well 55 years old. There’s plenty older movies that look spectacular in 4K like 10 Commandments, Spartacus,Apocalypse Now, etc. This was also a first time watch for me and as a huge horror fan I don’t really consider it horror, it’s not very scary and yes I know scary doesn’t always equal horror. Well Jaws to me is horror and scary. Slow Burna don’t bother me but man it took forever to get going. Maybe a rewatch or other reviews can change my mind cuz I know it’s considered a classic.
Scary is subjective. This movie freaks me out, but for you does nothing. Either way, it's 100% a horror movie.
@@midlevelmedia I agree and it takes a lot to scare or freak me out lol, I’m glad you love this movie though 👍🏽
1 of 5 actually scary movies ever made. There is a rosemary’s other baby. Rosemary is pregnant again and rosemary baby is black
Polanski should be in jail. Yet he's free to continue making movies
Wow man, that's a pretty strong reaction to people voicing their desire to not support a director because of the crimes he's committed. And let's not beat around the bush, he's a sexual abuser of children. If some people can't separate the art from the artist and other people can, fine. Most of us realize hundreds of people work on films, and it isn't just that one director that loses money when people don't buy their movie. Maybe we don't want studios to continue hiring pedophiles and the only way we can influence their decisions is with our wallets? Just be glad people are commenting and feeding the algorithm to increase your viewership, and maybe don't scold your commentors for voicing completely understandable opnions, yeah?
Thank you for voicing yours here today.
Disappointing and unnecessary judgement on a creator whose mind you can't really understand, this kind of virtue signalling does nobody favours in my mind.
Sorry, did you say “disappointing and unnecessary judgement”… on a pedophile?! It is well documented that Polanski raped a 12 year old girl, and his only real punishment was being banned from re-entering the U.S. 🤯
And how desperate for subscribers are you (whatever your name is), for *liking* this comment that throws you under the bus too?!! Ugh! 🤦🏻♀️🤢
Nah, Polanski is a good bloke.
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I wouldn't necessarily agree with that but I agree with Ken's thoughts.
I don't hold the entertainers accountable for their private life, to the point where it destroys what they've already done.
If they've committed a crime, then arrest them because they're not above the law. However, it doesn't make everything they ever did bad, just because they're caught doing something deplorable.
Not to excuse anything he's done, but people seem to forget he was married to one of the most beautiful women in the world who was carrying his child, both brutally murdered. Tragic. Something you'd probably never get over.
The girl, now woman, at the heart of the case actually agrees. She posed for a photo, taken by her husband, with Polanski ealier this year and said "it was never a big deal".
If that's the colors of this movie, in the clips you show, it looks terrible. Brown and gray. Yuck. I'm watching an old dvd of RB, home made, not professional, and like a lot of home recorded copies, the colors are lighter, white and blue and yellow, Rosemary and Guy look "in the pink". Dark videos are dreary and ugly.
It's always looked like that. It's the way it was shot 55 years ago. You'd be complaining more if they'd DNRd the picture and added colour etc where none existed before.
I own the criterion version and watched this new 4k last night with the lights off and thought it looked excellent. An accurate representation of the original look of the movie.
If you're watching on a decent 4k screen which is set up properly and has gold brightness levels, this is how it's supposed to look.
That same dark comment is always levelled at 4k. It's naturally darker as its as close to watching at the cinema as you are likely to get... And I don't recall ever watching a movie on the big screen with the lights turned on either.
@@benpascall4297 Baloney. Boomers from the age of Technicolor know better. Brown and gray movies are a recent thing. Another wrong thing I see here is they colored Rosemary;'s hair reddish BEFORE she gets it cut in a Twiggy look. She had Doris Day blonde hair before the haircut in the original.
@@hermanhale9258I did a direct comparison with the Criterion version as well as this version and it's very similar. Certain scenes in the criterion look too washed out. The hair colour looked the same to me on the 4k disc.
I watched this last night in a dark room with the lights out and it looked great. Other reviewers on UA-cam also compliment the disc... movieguy365 gave the picture an A- for example.
You can call in baloney all you want - it sounds like either you system isn't properly calibrated or your expectations when it comes to a 4k rendering of a 55 year old movie are unrealistic. The movie looks very colourful and the reds and greens really pop. The only browns and greys of note are the highlights which are naturally coloured that way, such as wood furnishings and buildings.
@@benpascall4297 I'm watching on cheap laptop, true. But I watch videos all day long, including old movies, and the color is fine.
@@benpascall4297 Well, I did a direct comparison of your video with the roses scene and a professional old DVD on a Sanyo CRT from 2003 or so and my TV is much more colorful and clear than your video played on this HP chromebook. And that is with the light on and it is day time. So, I don't know what is wrong, I will try on another computer and see if I get a better image. My dvd is a wide screen version and it may be 2012, but it does not say Criterion on it or on the box. I checked the hutch dinner scene on another YT channel with my dvd, and the other channel was so dark, you couldn't make out the colors of the books on the shelves, the leg of lamb turns black as Hutch walks to the table, just awful. Now, the video boxes on your shelves behind you are very colorful on my HP laptop, as they should be.
My criterion is still sealed. Just bought the 4k.
Own the Criterion version...!!
Roman Polanski… the rape scene… Oh ok.
Anyway, I also thought The Devil’s Advocate and The Astronauts Wife were heavily influenced by Rosemary’s Baby