Excellent tier list Fashionlover4, the fact that you carefully considered Rick under the 'Not My Taste' category is incredibly bold but honest. Keep up the the good videos! Unsubscribed.
I cannot put words on how much u have inspired me, and you still do. Even tho u don't have daily uploads, or a god-like setup. You still make quality videos that i personally love.
@@fashionlover4 it's more the overall vibe (camera position, editing) that reminded me, not just that it's a tier list. not that I even mind, it's just something I noticed
you have inspired me to use fashion as way of expressing myself, my dressing reflects how i'm feeling at that time, i'm learning new things from you all the time, fashion really isn't a thing in my country, i come from Nigeria, most people are into that hype culture, so people like you are really educative man.
Hello Cactus kid, nice meeting a fellow Nigerian here...but fashion really is a big thing in Nigeria we don't just have good curators like this to educate people like this...you have to do the hard work finding/learning about fashion houses and brands. There's an African Fashion Week Nigeria happening in September and Lagos Fashion Week sometime in October/November
Hey, you should check out Fashion roadman aka Ayo Ojo if you havent already. He is a Nigerian fashion journalist with awesome educational fashion videos. He has even made a couple videos covering the Nigerian fashion scene, I think you would enjoy it!
I know it's a matter of taste after all and everybody's list is personal but Chalayan alongside Kawakubo, Gaultier or Miyake is kinda wild... We need another list with Azzedine Alaia, Gianni Versace, Karl Lagerfeld, YSL, Thierry Mugler and even Miuccia Prada. But I think you need a real deep dive into their work to really have an opinion...
Yea I was kind of unsure about putting him in, I more put him to rival Miyake but I didn't rate him in the end. I think I know a decent amount about those designers you mentioned however I personally don't find them the most interesting (outside Mugler) so I probably won't do a list on them. Just my personal taste!
100% agree with you mate. McQueen’s 1999 spring/summer collection was absolutely blowing my mind. Sham that we can’t see his collection anymore. Good video!
So glad I found this channel, more of this kind of content and less of the "What are people wearing/How much is your outfit worth" kind... Keep it up, Fashionlover4!
To note on your point about Rick and his lack of color. I actually think with his most recent shoes, and you can hear him discuss this in Loic's behind the scenes for recent seasons, that Rick has taken a liking to color(After recent acid trips lmao) and even attempting to make collections that evoke more pleasant emotions. Also Rick's use of various materials and persistence on using whatever material in his own way is very striking.
you have an interesting perspective considering you don’t have a formal fashion background or education which makes watching your videos even more relatable and enjoyable. it would be great to see more in the future. gangsta.
Glad to see you back, hope your moving goes well. You should do a video on where you see the future of fashion going. What new designers you think will be considered as greats in the future.
I think Karl Lagerfeld would be a great fit for the list, just because he was held as the GOAT when he was alive but the fashion community never saw him like that so I think it's a debate worth having.
I found interesting your comments re the designers hating the industry and that often their clothes were a reaction against it, also enjoyed your comments re Issey Miyake being a genius technician. Having studied fashion and made clothes myself it makes me - all the more - marvel at the amazing technical skill and ingenious solutions found to make many of these garments, all designers listed here. It's akin to sculpture, especially Rae and Lee's work, however a sculpture is static whereas these need to move as they have a purpose plus be washed etc and you're working with a material which largely has no structure. It's a very over used expression but many of these garments really are works of art.
I always enjoyed Raf Simons' surveillance of the punk subculture without faking being a member of it - this balance is rarely talked about. He has long surprised in his shows both for his eponymous line and bigger groups like Dior. Abloh? Don't waste your breath unless you want to do a thought piece on marketing.
Laughing when speaking about tragedies is a normal human response. When we're suddenly dealing with deep trauma, even if it's exterior to yourself, in particular if you haven't prepared to talk about it, your brain is overwhelmed, and the release is a sad laugh. Don't feel ashamed about it, when you work in the context of tragedies, you learn to react in a more appropriate way. But we should never forget that heavy triggers don't necessarily have the effect we expect.
Not even just the new ones but the actual great ones of their time, regardless of own taste. Yohji Yamamoto, Alessandro Michele, Theirry Mugler, Tom Ford, Miuccia Prada, Yves Saint Laurent, Karl Lagerfeld, Marc Jacobs, Oscar De La Ranta, Christian Lacroix, Gianni Versace, Glenn Marten, Virgil Abloh, Mary Quant, Zac Posen.
I’ve been trying to find the best way to contact you to tell you YOURE IN VOGUE!! Fashion Roadman sited you as inspiring to follow in his Vogue article. I wont put the link because itll go in your spam comments folder, but its on his community page post
Margiela said his mantra about menswear was a man's wardrobe. I don't know about you but him not pretending men need to wear wrestling attire to be fashionable is the greatest gift to fashion.
Could you make a video on fashion and trash, and where all the trash piles end up b/c of fast fashion? Would be cool to use your platform to promote designers that offer real (not just PR artifice) sustainability AND kickass style.
weird i was excepting 9 photos of Virgil Abloh but its just some randoms lmao rick and owens ? jean pol gold tier ? ray kawai ? vivane ouestwood? who tf are those people????
Rick fanboy here, this is a long winded comment about why I think you're wrong and I fully expect you to read it in its entirety. Hopefully it has made you change your opinion and you won't make the same mistake in the future.
One thing I don’t understand about fashion is how exactly to become successful. What specifically caused these people get to this level. It’s like one day they woke to headlines and runway fashion. Idk what makes a designer good enough to become this big after seer so many fail.
gonna politely disagree on the colour aspect of ricks work, yes for the most part it isn’t extremely colourful but in the current tyrone era, since like 2020 rick has been super colourful and eccentric, very exciting and exotic materials and finishes
True, recently he has been using more colour but it's still mostly looks that are all one colour not interesting combinations of colour. Personally I just don't like how he uses it or the colours in particular that he uses. Still a favourite designer of mine overall though!
Tartan and esp tweed: I assume a big part of their favor was their function: to keep one warm. Since that function is meaningless to us now that we have fleece and other fabrics, I see why you don't favor them.
Amazing work but literally for the reasons I said in the video is why I don't see him as interesting as these other designers. Maybe he doesn't even belong in this tier list, he's pretty different to all of these designers
Please make a ‘worst designers’ tier list, I’m ready for the drama
please make a seperate category for phillip plein
YES
Maria grazzia chiuri, dolce & Gabbana, tom ford (sometimes)
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n.1 phillip plein
Excellent tier list Fashionlover4, the fact that you carefully considered Rick under the 'Not My Taste' category is incredibly bold but honest. Keep up the the good videos!
Unsubscribed.
Most respectful Rick Owens fan
Exactly what I like to hear.
Reported.
@@ravenitz I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a fantano-fashion lover pipe line. Both easily attract pretentious viewers, me included.
I want to be friends with this FashionLover4 bloke, he seems like a chill guy
Wait till you see fashionLover5
Same
nah you didn't know about Fashionlover1
I cannot put words on how much u have inspired me, and you still do. Even tho u don't have daily uploads, or a god-like setup. You still make quality videos that i personally love.
Thank you, I'm improving so maybe one day I'll get there!
dont get a god set up
You can really feel the Gifted Hater influence in this video
Saw it coming lol what can I say, he didn't popularise tier lists
@@fashionlover4 it's more the overall vibe (camera position, editing) that reminded me, not just that it's a tier list. not that I even mind, it's just something I noticed
Gifted Hater did it better tho
Do you have any idea how long it takes to perfect ‘rip bozo image’ into ‘fart’ sound effect, give fashion lover a brake
you have inspired me to use fashion as way of expressing myself, my dressing reflects how i'm feeling at that time, i'm learning new things from you all the time, fashion really isn't a thing in my country, i come from Nigeria, most people are into that hype culture, so people like you are really educative man.
Really easy to digest too, wish he made videos when I was younger so I wouldn’t have to learn hard way lol
That's great to hear, thank you so much!
Hello Cactus kid, nice meeting a fellow Nigerian here...but fashion really is a big thing in Nigeria we don't just have good curators like this to educate people like this...you have to do the hard work finding/learning about fashion houses and brands.
There's an African Fashion Week Nigeria happening in September and Lagos Fashion Week sometime in October/November
there’s some incredible Nigerian designers tho
Hey, you should check out Fashion roadman aka Ayo Ojo if you havent already. He is a Nigerian fashion journalist with awesome educational fashion videos. He has even made a couple videos covering the Nigerian fashion scene, I think you would enjoy it!
I know it's a matter of taste after all and everybody's list is personal but Chalayan alongside Kawakubo, Gaultier or Miyake is kinda wild...
We need another list with Azzedine Alaia, Gianni Versace, Karl Lagerfeld, YSL, Thierry Mugler and even Miuccia Prada. But I think you need a real deep dive into their work to really have an opinion...
Yea I was kind of unsure about putting him in, I more put him to rival Miyake but I didn't rate him in the end. I think I know a decent amount about those designers you mentioned however I personally don't find them the most interesting (outside Mugler) so I probably won't do a list on them. Just my personal taste!
you almost pissed me off with margiela, but then you made the absolute right decision
100% agree with you mate.
McQueen’s 1999 spring/summer collection was absolutely blowing my mind. Sham that we can’t see his collection anymore.
Good video!
So glad I found this channel, more of this kind of content and less of the "What are people wearing/How much is your outfit worth" kind... Keep it up, Fashionlover4!
To note on your point about Rick and his lack of color. I actually think with his most recent shoes, and you can hear him discuss this in Loic's behind the scenes for recent seasons, that Rick has taken a liking to color(After recent acid trips lmao) and even attempting to make collections that evoke more pleasant emotions. Also Rick's use of various materials and persistence on using whatever material in his own way is very striking.
I just rewatched this video and the Issey part left me speechless.
Rip vivienne
you have an interesting perspective considering you don’t have a formal fashion background or education which makes watching your videos even more relatable and enjoyable. it would be great to see more in the future. gangsta.
Thank you, that's the perspective I'm trying to bring so I'm glad it's coming across.
Glad to see you back, hope your moving goes well. You should do a video on where you see the future of fashion going. What new designers you think will be considered as greats in the future.
Thanks! great idea
Something about this video really makes me want to play World of Warcraft Wrath of the Lich King
#notsponsored
Thx 4 the list. I LOVE Tartan lol, big reason why I rank McQueen and Westwood highly.
I feel so weird about it but it's just not my fav, it's unexplainable
I would loved if you added Mugler to the list but I loved this video
How is yohji not on the list💀💀
exactly what i said
I am shoooketh
My man has a Warcraft sponsor now, Fashionlover4 has come a long way🙌🙌🙌
I was actually supposed to cover that up but forgot damn
The bit about virgils death is a bit grim mate
Yeah 😭obviously not meant in bad spirit but still tasteless
Sorry about that
I don't think he liked Virgil that much
ngl love how much depth goes into a video like a tierlist :) awsome channel
One of my favourite fashion youtubers rn! keep it up brother
Rick being in the low tier is controversial only in regards to trends - which ultimately don't matter - and I'm with you on that.
I think Karl Lagerfeld would be a great fit for the list, just because he was held as the GOAT when he was alive but the fashion community never saw him like that so I think it's a debate worth having.
I found interesting your comments re the designers hating the industry and that often their clothes were a reaction against it, also enjoyed your comments re Issey Miyake being a genius technician. Having studied fashion and made clothes myself it makes me - all the more - marvel at the amazing technical skill and ingenious solutions found to make many of these garments, all designers listed here. It's akin to sculpture, especially Rae and Lee's work, however a sculpture is static whereas these need to move as they have a purpose plus be washed etc and you're working with a material which largely has no structure. It's a very over used expression but many of these garments really are works of art.
These are the avengers of fashion
I always enjoyed Raf Simons' surveillance of the punk subculture without faking being a member of it - this balance is rarely talked about. He has long surprised in his shows both for his eponymous line and bigger groups like Dior.
Abloh? Don't waste your breath unless you want to do a thought piece on marketing.
Favorite fashion youtuber 😎
Laughing when speaking about tragedies is a normal human response. When we're suddenly dealing with deep trauma, even if it's exterior to yourself, in particular if you haven't prepared to talk about it, your brain is overwhelmed, and the release is a sad laugh. Don't feel ashamed about it, when you work in the context of tragedies, you learn to react in a more appropriate way. But we should never forget that heavy triggers don't necessarily have the effect we expect.
Bruh i’ve been waiting for chalayan during the whole video 🥲
Please make a part 2 on the new designers such as raf Simons, pierpaolo piccaoli, Simon Rocha, Oliver rouisteng etc
Not even just the new ones but the actual great ones of their time, regardless of own taste.
Yohji Yamamoto, Alessandro Michele, Theirry Mugler, Tom Ford, Miuccia Prada, Yves Saint Laurent, Karl Lagerfeld, Marc Jacobs, Oscar De La Ranta, Christian Lacroix, Gianni Versace, Glenn Marten, Virgil Abloh, Mary Quant, Zac Posen.
I’ve been trying to find the best way to contact you to tell you YOURE IN VOGUE!! Fashion Roadman sited you as inspiring to follow in his Vogue article. I wont put the link because itll go in your spam comments folder, but its on his community page post
I'm very surprised Yohji is not on that list, especially since you said you were specialized in avant-garde. Why ?
i want a video on your top 20 shoes, honestly because of you i don't mess with the hype culture anymore so thank you
Bro fr you’re Nigerian I didn’t expect one of us to be here, which state?
lol we’re everywhere
I honestly really liked all three of the mcqueen outfits you’ve shown 😸
Omg thank you so much for the feature (and on my birthday too!)
No problem, happy birthday and keep making videos!
I liked your video at the minute 1:30, when you put McQueen at the top
Margiela said his mantra about menswear was a man's wardrobe. I don't know about you but him not pretending men need to wear wrestling attire to be fashionable is the greatest gift to fashion.
wait what do you mean by this i’m a little confused
@@spaceinvader4565 you've never seen wrestling
@@ntsakomathebula4840 no of course but i don't get what margiela meant by that mantra. 'menswear was a mans wardrobe' wdym??
where the yamamoto love brah
Could you make a video on fashion and trash, and where all the trash piles end up b/c of fast fashion? Would be cool to use your platform to promote designers that offer real (not just PR artifice) sustainability AND kickass style.
Ysl needs to be on this
Keep it up man! You're doing great :D
weird i was excepting 9 photos of Virgil Abloh but its just some randoms lmao
rick and owens ?
jean pol gold tier ?
ray kawai ?
vivane ouestwood?
who tf are those people????
It's not funny gtfo
Love the videos man. So many good takes
Please make a part 2 ❤
best fashion youtuber outthere
Rick fanboy here, this is a long winded comment about why I think you're wrong and I fully expect you to read it in its entirety. Hopefully it has made you change your opinion and you won't make the same mistake in the future.
excited for gaultier
One thing I don’t understand about fashion is how exactly to become successful. What specifically caused these people get to this level. It’s like one day they woke to headlines and runway fashion. Idk what makes a designer good enough to become this big after seer so many fail.
I wonder the same thing
Great content :)
gonna politely disagree on the colour aspect of ricks work, yes for the most part it isn’t extremely colourful but in the current tyrone era, since like 2020 rick has been super colourful and eccentric, very exciting and exotic materials and finishes
True, recently he has been using more colour but it's still mostly looks that are all one colour not interesting combinations of colour. Personally I just don't like how he uses it or the colours in particular that he uses. Still a favourite designer of mine overall though!
U got the ramranch drip
I loved mcqueen's outfits
I swear I was gonna crazy if you didn’t put margiela in untouchable
Where is Yohji? :'(
Loved being blessed by fashionlover
Bro, rick has nice colors
😭😭😭
Для Маржелы нужна отдельная строка)
Learnt something new, thanks
This video should've been longer, you barely talked about Rei's work....
I'm planning on doing a full video about Rei so I decided to not discuss her too in depth here
WHERE WAS RAF
No Christian Dior? Karl Lagerfield? Marc Jacob’s? Saint Laurent? Coco Chanel? We need a new video man.
I can't cover everyone in one video but I'll make more in future for sure!
@@fashionlover4 Part 2, baby!
Tartan and esp tweed: I assume a big part of their favor was their function: to keep one warm. Since that function is meaningless to us now that we have fleece and other fabrics, I see why you don't favor them.
love the vid but where's raf at my boy
dope
RICK IS NOT YOUR TASTE ??? im hurt lol
Where is Yohji Yamamoto?
Love the video but I’m missing Karl Lagerfeld in this legendary list my man. 👀
Pls do a tier list on the antwerp 6
so funny and intelligent!
Great vid
Mcqueens brand is just sad now and for someone who hated that part of the industry that makes it even worse
Check out Issey miyake’s 132 5. Line and then tell me he shouldn’t be S tier.
Amazing work but literally for the reasons I said in the video is why I don't see him as interesting as these other designers. Maybe he doesn't even belong in this tier list, he's pretty different to all of these designers
another banger
thoughts on windowsen?
RIP ISSEY
Where is jun takahashi
8:23 but-but all black fit thats the perfect attire 😢
Rick has so much color though
we need a discord
W content
I think the same about Rick bro
Phenomenal!
part 2!!!!
First and I love you babes
no yohji?
Please add tiers, i feel like 4 tiers isn't enough
Bummer hedi is missing :(
i know demna is new and all but could you talk about him in the pt2
woah u didnt bring up galliano at balenciaga ): u mite like that stuff !
Where do you go to school ? Tell us about it
If you don’t think Martin or Lee “did anything about it” you gotta a lot more studying to do
old designers prediction didn't age well
What happened to the tabi tier list video??
It's still on tiktok no?
where are you going for university?
🐐
7:44😍😍
if u ever need music 4 ur channel lmk ! i always wanna work with irish creators
Love you bro but Rick isn’t on J Galliano level