As a moroccan I thank you a lot for this video Geoff! 100% on board. If I can help in any way, I'm here. Been interested in permaculture for few years now. Started growing food in a small garden recently, raising chickens for eggs, etc. Testing small simple systems that could be replicated elsewhere in Morocco or worldwide.
I have to agree we need instead of a consumer economy an economy based on servicing nature and food production that is locally sourced seasonal and ecologically advantagious
Where can I find the formulas to determine the productivity of such systems in terms of food calories and protein production per unit of area? Say for example I wanted to transfer the idea to an Australian landscape and needed to know how many humans it could support at its minimum level of production, i.e. in a drought year. I understand the principles of these systems very well, I just can't put the numbers together to be able to say to a group of people you can risk your lives and life savings to implement a given plan.
@@DanielSMatthews you want guarantees which are not possible. Permaculture works with nature, no chemicales. The agriculture destroys our soil, yo need more and more chemicals. It's healthy for your kids? Check out Perrine und Charles Hervé-Gruyer, permacultur in France.
@@DanielSMatthews look into square foot gardening. I’m pretty sure that kind of breakdown info is in there. Also, most people build their systems gradually and shift over without a sudden stop in buying groceries. Getting the earthworks and water systems comes first, growing plants takes time, and animals too. Most people don’t buy into a turn key system, but you might be able to find one for sale. If you want to calculate how much food your family consumes you could add up the pounds your family eats and then see how many pounds the plants you want produce on average. Just make sure you plant what your family will actually eat and what will work for your area to grow.
@@traildriving TLDR, work it out yourself... 🙄 Yeah I can do that (and will), but where is the existing empirical proof that the idea is genuinely sound and globally applicable?
I completely agree, bring in families, with young people and children to learn to both restore and expand the forest. Children who learn how to get things growing never forget. I know I didn't, watched my Grandmother nurture al.ost dead plants back to beauty and growth. In fact, every year I take on plants that normally get dumped in the compost, bring them back to where they thrive. I learn more about plants I have never seen or grown before, this year it's orchids. I am a retired person, yet I refuse to leave behind a planet devoid of beauty and plenty.
I often combine walking for exercise with a Wombling expedition, taking my backpack & a few strong reusable carrier bags with me, I seek out rough land near housing; near wealthier areas works best. Despite the local council operating a front gate garden waste collection service, bizarrely, idiots frequently go out of their way to dump unwanted plants, even perfectly good plant pots, some distance from their homes; ~1200 metres is the furthest I've found stuff from local homes. It's not uncommon for me to find very large & mature specimens easily worth £80-100 just dumped. On one particular Wombling expedition, I ended up with lily bulbs so large, they were worth about £5 each if brought at specialist supplier, a very expensive terracotta pot complete with compost & dead plant, & quite a few other plants. All in all, I estimate I went home with about £100-110 worth of stuff, so heavy that I could barely stumble to the bus stop, having to stop, start just to get there; I normally walk all the way home, about 3-4 miles. So for the cost of a £1•85 bus fare I did really well. Most of which has continued to flourish in my garden for years. I'm such a terrible Womble. 😂😂 Often look like an army sniper with vegetation sticking out of my backpack as I walk home and see passing carfull's of people laughing at the sight of me. But I've had the last laugh. What's often been thrown out as dead or merely unwanted, is now HUGE in my garden & all it normally cost me was a walk home. I also buy the nearly dead marked down stuff in garden centres, shops etc, & like you bring it home to grow on; ~98% successful. And like you I get some decidedly funny looks when buying items that nobody else would touch with a bargepole. For the odd time that it doesn't work, if it only cost £0•5-10 per item, it doesn't really matter.
@@sandrashane677 Believe me. If I could afford one, I'd certainly do so. There's a wealthy area on a peninsula about 5 miles away. Someone told me a few years ago that people up there dump an unbelievable amount of perfectly good plants. If I had a car, I'd be up there on a regular basis. I've found that there's particular times of year to go plant wombling; 2nd wk of March to end of 1st wk of June & last wk of October at the earliest - 1st wk of November until the end of the 1st or 2nd wk of December at the latest, depending on the weather. These coincide with the gardening planting seasons. I was just looking at a couple of my favourite wombled Cordylines yesterday. They were about 1 & 2 feet tall respectively when I found & brought them home years ago. They've since grown to about 6 & 7 feet tall respectively, with nice thick trunks. To my great delight, I noticed that they've matured to the point of flowering for the 1st time; all this for free.
That is definitely one of the seven wonders of the permaculture world! 😎 Hopefully the gravel works are kept under control so this gem doesn't disappear.
@@brianquinn5060 I wonder if they could steer the forest to the side of the goldmine by literally thickly mulching the entire area with only live seeds from that forest so that it isn't all lost. Or maybe save cuttings to replant it, or use funding from the date palms to fund precise AI mining robots to dig around vital things.
Ancient engineering with common sense…amazing and hopefully inspiring to new generations for a sustainable world. Thank you Geoff Lawton for sharing. Young and old, community and governments have to speed up the recovery of the nature instead of building too many roads and new developments
I grew up in atlas mountains...and what you showed in south if Morocco, was my kid play arena. I used to play, swim and eat whatever was close to my reach.. everything pure bio. All our food was localy made.
It's such a shame that the local gravel is being extracted to the detriment of this food forest. It might not have something obvious such as a sign up saying private property, or a registered owner saying that it is an important piece of infrastructure pertaining to the food forest, but we need to treat it as if it did because it has an important function in maintaining that wonderful local asset.
A PDC there would be a great idea. Hopefully, people will become aware of the treasure this ancient food forest represents, and take steps to conserve it. Thank you for this wonderful video, Geoff. 🙏🏼 I will start to plant my first food forest this autumn in temperate climate. Taking the online PDC last year was one of my best decisions. What a value you offer! Thanks again, Geoff!
The PDC sounds great. Bying zeeing outsiders value the location and realize they are a permaculture heritage,hopefully it will help the young people who remain to value this national and global treasure. Just as the Greening of the desert is now replicating in value to the surronding community! Keep us asare if this moves forward Geoff!
At the very least, these systems need recording and documenting, and preferably need treasuring for being the wonderful balanced examples of what works in that environment. Tis no good making lots of money, or building new roads from the gravel , if there is not enough food...
But there’s no money in that. How am I gona pay for my yacht, when people have no need for these seeds I’ve engineered? It’s infuriating enough to make one go shoot an elephant.
We just had a bad fire here in Aromas California. It burned down the eucalyptus forest that outgrew and took over the native oak forest. Crews came in and cut most of the burnt trees down. At least now there is a clean slate to start off new. I'm grateful the barn or house didn't burn down. If we didn't have sheep and goats to keep the perimeter eaten down the fire would have burned them down for sure. You're greening the desert videos have inspired me to build a small nursery here on the farm to transform the property into a food forest paradise. I used carport frames and covered them with shade cloths to keep all my plants and fruit trees in until they are ready to plant out in the ground. I am hoping I can rebuild and replant after the huge fire. I know a lot of animals lost their homes but lucky for them I built a permaculture nursery to build it back better. Thank you Geoff Lawton for your hard work and for inspiring young people like me to repair the land and to work on making the world a better place.
It’ll come back great. My food forest burned in Australia and it has come back better with all the ash feeding the soil. Have hopefully fire proofed it now but would like to never have a bush fire here again. Best of blessings for your food forest.
Eucalyptus is a great tree to have if you like fires. Flammable bark and oily leaves that conveniently fall around the tree, waiting for the first spark. I don't think it's native to California -- the Arbor Day foundation did not like the lack of trees in the Bay Area and thought they would help out by planting the eucalyptus that thrived in parts of Australia.
You’re absolutely right, there should be a school there at this food forest. This is absolutely brilliant. The water moving through the system is used so well, and the shade of the loose canopy creates a favourable microclimate, while building soil, providing a diversity of crops to harvest. Thanks for the video.
Great message, Geoff. I'm currently in Tinerhir and there is practically the same situation in the Todgha valley running up the gorge. I'll be here a few weeks and am really anxious to get in there and see it. I haven't been in this area for 16 years, but remember the valley well as a sustainable agriculture. Since I've only recently discovered permaculture, it'll be nice to study an old system still in use.
This is so interesting and amazing. Getting new blood in there to take care of, preserve and even expand the place seems like a very worthwhile endeavour! I also just recently discovered the Dehesa in Spain and Portugal. It's roughly 8000 square miles of ancient food forest and Silvopasture! It's like 2000 years old too and in an arid Mediterranean climate also. It thrives powerfully! All those miles are carefully tended and maintained by humans. The cows and pigs from that region are highly sought after and very expensive for their high quality. Thousands of miles of totally man made Silvopasture savannah. It's also an ancient treasure that supports many thousands of people! The Spanish take very good care of it though!!! There's a few UA-cams on the region but not much written on the subject that I could find. I'll continue to search. I did find one seemingly great book: Mediterranean Oak Woodland Working Landscapes by Campos, Huntsinger and (5) others that I have not read yet. It's expensive and BIG (520 pages) but seems to be very exhaustive and thorough, kinda like Bill Mollison's big book. Heh. Looking forward to reading the thang! Cheers!
As our world becomes smaller and we begin our journey of learning from each other we gain respect for each other’s cultures and agricultural development
I didn’t know you were a surfer! Nice!! I love body surfing!! 💙💦 I also love the awareness and education you are bringing to the world with places like this! 🌿💚🌿 May it revive and spread through Morocco and be an inspiration to every dry land. We can nurture the land, our planet, and consequently ourselves along with all the other beings here with us.
wow, what an incredible set up they have, and to be there for 2000 yrs! Using it as a teaching site is an awesome idea, it might make the local industry think twice about destroying the area. (one can hope at least)
Dear Geoff, So glad you visited this place and showed it in some detail, as I've heard you refer to this system before and how inspiring it was for you. InshaAllah you can help these people to save this special, blessed place
Thank you very much for this most interesting programme. For these systems to survive, there will need to be a totally rethinking of society (NOT the "great reset" however!!). Agricultiral "deserts" are the logical result of materialistic thinking and " money first" prioritization. Your ideas are valuable and valid, keep on this track!
Greetings from Arizona growing zone 9b! We love our rain harvesting system. We collect over 400 gallons of rain water to use all over our backyard orchard, Vineyard and garden. Thank you for your guidance, tips and tricks! You are appreciated.
This system makes me think of the man in Phoenix who noticed when the curb was broken and the water could run off and pool, things started to grow. So he started breaking curbs and letting nature take it's course. I tried goggling him but could not find him.
@@johnlozauskas778 I didn't break any curbs in my neighborhood but I did build a little mote to catch the runoff from a neighbor's irrigation, I tried pumping it into our yard but it just was too shallow..
Thank you Geoff! It is amazing how so much old knowledge and wisdom can be lost in just 2-3 generations, I sadly grew up knowing so little and I am making it a goal and mission in my life to learn how to forage, grow sustainable systems, and help spread the word peaceful and with love. Thank you so much for your courage and passion to explore learn and grow and to take us along the ride with you. We are learning heaps of information that I know will be passed down to future generations and in turn, restore healthy ecosystems.
It said Inraren in the video. Inraren, Morocco. I have no idea how big an area that is however, I think it would be awesome to see him teach some courses there and see the locals get involved sharing their knowledge as well!! -Cheers!
@@rosebraskett Sure am. Had two small ones in pots, thought they died. Planted both together in the ground. I'll be dipped, if they both didn't start growing. Ones about 5ft tall, the others about 2ft tall. Doing great. I'm in the low desert, near Yuma AZ. Hot.
@@4wdboss230 I ordered some "improved" seeds, pkm2 I think they were called. Out of 25 seeds I got 21 plants lol. I am in WA so I must keep in pot and bring in over winter. Can't beat that nutrition though, so way worth the effort. ❤
@@4wdboss230 moringa love the heat, especially at night and if they have good water. I'm growing some in SoCal right now and they will die back in the winter but once it warms up in late spring they take off
That was great to hear you covering some history about this place,it was a paradise,nowadays slowly disappearing,Soo sad , but still good part of it remain and we wish to preserve it and help out and share knowledge. I'm from the area and would like to see it great again for ever.i heard about geoff was here a month later
Something I see missing from the tropical and subtropical permaculture is date palms. Yes The Do Grow in Wet Environment. These days they are being commercially grown in Thailand, Malaysia, Bangladesh, and Indonesia,,,, and they produce a huge amount of food. The only thing is to cover their fruits while ripening so they wouldn't get wet or insects get into them. And they produce a perfect upper story for other plants growing under them.
This is so fun to fallow you. My family came from Morocco before moving to Mexico. It's fun to see all the places you go to show plant growth. God bless you.
Yes! Absolutely yes! Fantastic idea to run workshops to repair/improve this ancient example of permaculture- while educating! Yes yes yes Geoff. Thank you for your incredible, consistent work in leading the way for our planets food and biodiversity systems... Thank you thank you thank you. Utterly priceless
There was an absentee owner of the property next to me. He just came here a couple weekends ago to "clean up" the property. I thought that meant fixing the dilapidated buildings ...... Nope, he cut down most of the trees, shaved the ground vegetation to make it a dusty lot, and left the ugly buildings. 😞
We just bought a little Quinta in Portugal and I am looking at ways to change the orange monoculture to a more diverse set of fruits and cropping so this video came at the right time for me. Really interesting looking at over storey coverage and food forests in drier areas. Thank you so much.
We need to re-learn from the older generations. If you think you're smarter than the older, remember that 1960 car owners manuals described how to register engine valves, while 2022 car owners manuals tell "it's forbidden to drink the battery acid"
Wonderful video heartbreaking. I live in Kansas United States. Industrial farming has destroyed my place. As the chemicals have changed the trees started to die. I’ve listen to so many ridiculous excuses. When it’s so obvious when the younger generation takes over the farm they go to chemicals and everything starts dying. They’re so blinded by money it’s sick. My own neighbors continue to poison me and my animals that I cannot get them to stop. You can search my channel name and trees my channel name and chemical farming. See the sprayers 50 feet from my house. My grandkids can’t even visit the soil so contaminated. I continue to try and grow food here and I want to try and grow a food forest. Hopefully open their eyes that things will grow without destroying the environment. 30 years ago every farm had a forest of shade trees. You can’t have a shade tree coming up in a no till field so they almost die for the convenience of the farmer. Or as I call them chemical applicators.
Wow, what an amazing system! Bring it to Australia! It's a shame that the culture of the modern world continues to drive people away from the land and into the cities. I was just asking my husband if we would be doing our kids more of a favour to move to the country and learn how to work the land so they learn it from younger in their lives. But would we then get stuck out there and limit their opportunities in other ways? In the end, all we need is food and a roof over our heads really. Knowing how to create our own and learning how to make a desert productive again should surely become every child's life passion. Shame it might take a famine to make people realise where we are headed and where our priorities ought to be.
Hat off Mr. Lawton! How amazing it is to see and realize how traditional agriculture is in connection and symbiosis with the environment taking care of the soil and letting mother nature do the work for us. Industrial agriculture and extensive single crops are completely the opposite. Destroying the soil with chemicals..... Thanks for sharing! Great job!
Glad to see you revisit this amazing site. Amazing how old this concept. Glad you pointed out the simplicity. True on the not sacrificing thisis icon. Agree on holding a course there and helping to support its continuation.
I live in tropical south east asia, i have seen many places, rain forest, diversity, it's very humid and cool inside turned into a semi desert soil by modern agriculture farms, the rain washed all fertile soil on top away, and those place become very hot, dry after few years active, after day abandoned it weeds com back dominate, after 10 years the soil has turned to fertile like i saw before, but the diversity is not like it was, what i saw is the plant actually create rain and cool humid climate, rich the soil, and weeds are the best one to do that job in the begin, later is with big wild trees who can create shade and cool microclimate super good, but even the rain forest can turn to desert and semi desert can turn like the things on this video.. It's make me cringe about what we have done.. And could Do.
Absolutely enjoyed video brilliant help this is great I got so much work to catch up on and these videos right on the mark thank you permaculture team you're doing great work we got this
Thank you Geoff for a lovely and always educational with passion. I dream of having a permaculture farm in marocco. I was there in 2007. Beautiful culture and I Loved the local fresh food. Great idea with teaching a course there. I Hope with my whole Heart that people join together to preserve that beautiful system you showed. It is amazing working with nature and it is all mostly ease and grace if you understand nature. Thank you Geoff for that you do and especially bringi g back the wisdom and understanding to people and communities. Love and Support from Sweden.
Thank you very much Geoff. A permaculture course and documenting this is critically important. This living sustainable treasure trove is so important for food and knowledge. I hope the Moroccans will actively preserve and conserve , fund this sustainable living system that has been used for over 2,000 years. 800 people farmed here. “Plant the rain” in mulched ditches and reinstate the citrus and bananas. Cover crops and swales would be so good on the bare expanse where the Berber man and his donkey were. Moroccan local governments please get your road rocks elsewhere. Rocks are critical to prevent desertification here. I would so love to see this as a film to show the critical drylands knowledge, history and food production. Gardening elder’s knowledge……including Berber and relevant other’s oral history.
Why is Geoff pronounced Jeff? Freaking English man. I'm a native speaker and shit still doesn't make sense. I don't mean anything negative to the dude himself though. He's cool.
I'm honestly surprised that this name is being mentioned here, I stumbled upon one of his clients testimony last two months in CNBC world news and decided to try him out...I'm Expecting my third cashout in 2days
The manor is not placed randomly. It's piled up strategically until it's cured, so as not to burn the vegetation. then over time, they spread it out when crops start growing.
It's all about controlling water. If governments were as interested in water catching and storage as they were in building roads, we'd be living in abundance.
I can rememberliving in Oman which has a desert climate, with falaj (water channels carved into the side of valleys and even running underground in tunnels) to water crops growing under palm trees. Specifically up in the mountains with small villages that have been there for years. Quite amazing where rain falls maybe twice a year..
As a moroccan I thank you a lot for this video Geoff! 100% on board. If I can help in any way, I'm here. Been interested in permaculture for few years now. Started growing food in a small garden recently, raising chickens for eggs, etc. Testing small simple systems that could be replicated elsewhere in Morocco or worldwide.
Please help. Be There.
Hello friend. Where are you based?
Hi, both in France and Morocco (Bouznika). What about you?
@@survivalmode952 have been following Geoff for years now. Very inspiring. Hi from a Moroccan based in Germany ;)
Hi, hope you're having fun implementing Geoff's principles in Germany!
Thank you for doing this story and loved the himar pronunciation. It was perfect
I have to agree we need instead of a consumer economy an economy based on servicing nature and food production that is locally sourced seasonal and ecologically advantagious
Let's use ecosia 👍🌱🌳
Hi Geoff. We have a granite and sand soil and are wondering whether to go for a lined pond. Do you have any advice as to when to use lined ponds?
A test pond dried out in 3 days after some 10 to 20mm rainfall
Where can I find the formulas to determine the productivity of such systems in terms of food calories and protein production per unit of area? Say for example I wanted to transfer the idea to an Australian landscape and needed to know how many humans it could support at its minimum level of production, i.e. in a drought year. I understand the principles of these systems very well, I just can't put the numbers together to be able to say to a group of people you can risk your lives and life savings to implement a given plan.
Your question shows that you didn't understand permaculture. Nobody can give you numbers. Each piece of land is unique. You have to observe and learn.
@@Gabi-lt4mx And if I get it wrong, my five kids starve to death? What are you a sociopath?
@@DanielSMatthews you want guarantees which are not possible. Permaculture works with nature, no chemicales. The agriculture destroys our soil, yo need more and more chemicals. It's healthy for your kids? Check out Perrine und Charles Hervé-Gruyer, permacultur in France.
@@DanielSMatthews look into square foot gardening. I’m pretty sure that kind of breakdown info is in there.
Also, most people build their systems gradually and shift over without a sudden stop in buying groceries. Getting the earthworks and water systems comes first, growing plants takes time, and animals too.
Most people don’t buy into a turn key system, but you might be able to find one for sale.
If you want to calculate how much food your family consumes you could add up the pounds your family eats and then see how many pounds the plants you want produce on average.
Just make sure you plant what your family will actually eat and what will work for your area to grow.
@@traildriving TLDR, work it out yourself... 🙄 Yeah I can do that (and will), but where is the existing empirical proof that the idea is genuinely sound and globally applicable?
I completely agree, bring in families, with young people and children to learn to both restore and expand the forest. Children who learn how to get things growing never forget. I know I didn't, watched my Grandmother nurture al.ost dead plants back to beauty and growth. In fact, every year I take on plants that normally get dumped in the compost, bring them back to where they thrive. I learn more about plants I have never seen or grown before, this year it's orchids.
I am a retired person, yet I refuse to leave behind a planet devoid of beauty and plenty.
Your beautiful energy will never be forgotten.
I often combine walking for exercise with a Wombling expedition, taking my backpack & a few strong reusable carrier bags with me, I seek out rough land near housing; near wealthier areas works best. Despite the local council operating a front gate garden waste collection service, bizarrely, idiots frequently go out of their way to dump unwanted plants, even perfectly good plant pots, some distance from their homes; ~1200 metres is the furthest I've found stuff from local homes.
It's not uncommon for me to find very large & mature specimens easily worth £80-100 just dumped. On one particular Wombling expedition, I ended up with lily bulbs so large, they were worth about £5 each if brought at specialist supplier, a very expensive terracotta pot complete with compost & dead plant, & quite a few other plants. All in all, I estimate I went home with about £100-110 worth of stuff, so heavy that I could barely stumble to the bus stop, having to stop, start just to get there; I normally walk all the way home, about 3-4 miles. So for the cost of a £1•85 bus fare I did really well. Most of which has continued to flourish in my garden for years.
I'm such a terrible Womble. 😂😂 Often look like an army sniper with vegetation sticking out of my backpack as I walk home and see passing carfull's of people laughing at the sight of me. But I've had the last laugh. What's often been thrown out as dead or merely unwanted, is now HUGE in my garden & all it normally cost me was a walk home.
I also buy the nearly dead marked down stuff in garden centres, shops etc, & like you bring it home to grow on; ~98% successful. And like you I get some decidedly funny looks when buying items that nobody else would touch with a bargepole. For the odd time that it doesn't work, if it only cost £0•5-10 per item, it doesn't really matter.
You are a good person. Thank you.
@@pinkelephants1421 You need to get yourself a car and upgrade your Womble game 😄
@@sandrashane677 Believe me. If I could afford one, I'd certainly do so. There's a wealthy area on a peninsula about 5 miles away. Someone told me a few years ago that people up there dump an unbelievable amount of perfectly good plants. If I had a car, I'd be up there on a regular basis. I've found that there's particular times of year to go plant wombling; 2nd wk of March to end of 1st wk of June & last wk of October at the earliest - 1st wk of November until the end of the 1st or 2nd wk of December at the latest, depending on the weather. These coincide with the gardening planting seasons.
I was just looking at a couple of my favourite wombled Cordylines yesterday. They were about 1 & 2 feet tall respectively when I found & brought them home years ago. They've since grown to about 6 & 7 feet tall respectively, with nice thick trunks. To my great delight, I noticed that they've matured to the point of flowering for the 1st time; all this for free.
That is definitely one of the seven wonders of the permaculture world! 😎 Hopefully the gravel works are kept under control so this gem doesn't disappear.
Would be nice to have a course there and have the locals explain how they manage it. There must be a lot of hidden knowledge there
Goldmine.
Right?
@@brianquinn5060 I wonder if they could steer the forest to the side of the goldmine by literally thickly mulching the entire area with only live seeds from that forest so that it isn't all lost. Or maybe save cuttings to replant it, or use funding from the date palms to fund precise AI mining robots to dig around vital things.
@@buckaroobonzai2909 I think he means goldmine in the sense of goldmine of information:)
@@carcass2677 Just to be safe... we should start digging. Don't want to miss out on some gold....
Geoff is doing something amazing with these videos. He is documenting a moroccan natural wonder with time differences of decades!
Ancient engineering with common sense…amazing and hopefully inspiring to new generations for a sustainable world. Thank you Geoff Lawton for sharing. Young and old, community and governments have to speed up the recovery of the nature instead of building too many roads and new developments
Amen to that!
I grew up in atlas mountains...and what you showed in south if Morocco, was my kid play arena.
I used to play, swim and eat whatever was close to my reach.. everything pure bio. All our food was localy made.
It's such a shame that the local gravel is being extracted to the detriment of this food forest. It might not have something obvious such as a sign up saying private property, or a registered owner saying that it is an important piece of infrastructure pertaining to the food forest, but we need to treat it as if it did because it has an important function in maintaining that wonderful local asset.
This is wonderful.
More permaculture and more food forests, please ♥️
A PDC there would be a great idea. Hopefully, people will become aware of the treasure this ancient food forest represents, and take steps to conserve it. Thank you for this wonderful video, Geoff. 🙏🏼
I will start to plant my first food forest this autumn in temperate climate. Taking the online PDC last year was one of my best decisions. What a value you offer! Thanks again, Geoff!
The PDC sounds great. Bying zeeing outsiders value the location and realize they are a permaculture heritage,hopefully it will help the young people who remain to value this national and global treasure. Just as the Greening of the desert is now replicating in value to the surronding community! Keep us asare if this moves forward Geoff!
PDC?
@@lpmoron6258 Permaculture Design Certificate
Permaculture Design Course 🙂
Such an awesome example for the globe. Hope this spot remains productive and in use for centuries to come.
At the very least, these systems need recording and documenting, and preferably need treasuring for being the wonderful balanced examples of what works in that environment. Tis no good making lots of money, or building new roads from the gravel , if there is not enough food...
Awesome!
Let's make these all around the world, in every climate. 😀
Now that’s the spirit, aye! 🙇🏼♂️💚
But there’s no money in that. How am I gona pay for my yacht, when people have no need for these seeds I’ve engineered? It’s infuriating enough to make one go shoot an elephant.
We just had a bad fire here in Aromas California. It burned down the eucalyptus forest that outgrew and took over the native oak forest. Crews came in and cut most of the burnt trees down. At least now there is a clean slate to start off new. I'm grateful the barn or house didn't burn down. If we didn't have sheep and goats to keep the perimeter eaten down the fire would have burned them down for sure. You're greening the desert videos have inspired me to build a small nursery here on the farm to transform the property into a food forest paradise. I used carport frames and covered them with shade cloths to keep all my plants and fruit trees in until they are ready to plant out in the ground. I am hoping I can rebuild and replant after the huge fire. I know a lot of animals lost their homes but lucky for them I built a permaculture nursery to build it back better. Thank you Geoff Lawton for your hard work and for inspiring young people like me to repair the land and to work on making the world a better place.
It’ll come back great. My food forest burned in Australia and it has come back better with all the ash feeding the soil. Have hopefully fire proofed it now but would like to never have a bush fire here again. Best of blessings for your food forest.
Yeah!! I young person like me at age 56!! I'm excited, too.
Eucalyptus is a great tree to have if you like fires. Flammable bark and oily leaves that conveniently fall around the tree, waiting for the first spark. I don't think it's native to California -- the Arbor Day foundation did not like the lack of trees in the Bay Area and thought they would help out by planting the eucalyptus that thrived in parts of Australia.
You’re absolutely right, there should be a school there at this food forest. This is absolutely brilliant. The water moving through the system is used so well, and the shade of the loose canopy creates a favourable microclimate, while building soil, providing a diversity of crops to harvest. Thanks for the video.
Great message, Geoff. I'm currently in Tinerhir and there is practically the same situation in the Todgha valley running up the gorge. I'll be here a few weeks and am really anxious to get in there and see it. I haven't been in this area for 16 years, but remember the valley well as a sustainable agriculture. Since I've only recently discovered permaculture, it'll be nice to study an old system still in use.
This is so interesting and amazing. Getting new blood in there to take care of, preserve and even expand the place seems like a very worthwhile endeavour!
I also just recently discovered the Dehesa in Spain and Portugal. It's roughly 8000 square miles of ancient food forest and Silvopasture! It's like 2000 years old too and in an arid Mediterranean climate also. It thrives powerfully! All those miles are carefully tended and maintained by humans.
The cows and pigs from that region are highly sought after and very expensive for their high quality. Thousands of miles of totally man made Silvopasture savannah. It's also an ancient treasure that supports many thousands of people! The Spanish take very good care of it though!!!
There's a few UA-cams on the region but not much written on the subject that I could find. I'll continue to search. I did find one seemingly great book: Mediterranean Oak Woodland Working Landscapes by Campos, Huntsinger and (5) others that I have not read yet. It's expensive and BIG (520 pages) but seems to be very exhaustive and thorough, kinda like Bill Mollison's big book. Heh. Looking forward to reading the thang! Cheers!
Yes we do like permaculture in morocco many years ago you are welcom Mr geoff
So uplifting!!! Thx Geoff. Love the concept. Even the donkey looked happy!!! 💖
As our world becomes smaller and we begin our journey of learning from each other we gain respect for each other’s cultures and agricultural development
I didn’t know you were a surfer! Nice!! I love body surfing!! 💙💦
I also love the awareness and education you are bringing to the world with places like this! 🌿💚🌿 May it revive and spread through Morocco and be an inspiration to every dry land. We can nurture the land, our planet, and consequently ourselves along with all the other beings here with us.
Truly an Ecological Gem 💎 brought to light.
wow, what an incredible set up they have, and to be there for 2000 yrs! Using it as a teaching site is an awesome idea, it might make the local industry think twice about destroying the area. (one can hope at least)
Thank you for this video. I think it's very interesting to talk about the local irrigation system called khettara
Dear Geoff,
So glad you visited this place and showed it in some detail, as I've heard you refer to this system before and how inspiring it was for you.
InshaAllah you can help these people to save this special, blessed place
You‘re doing seriously important work brother!
Thank you very much for this most interesting programme.
For these systems to survive, there will need to be a totally rethinking of society (NOT the "great reset" however!!). Agricultiral "deserts" are the logical result of materialistic thinking and " money first" prioritization.
Your ideas are valuable and valid, keep on this track!
Greetings from Arizona growing zone 9b! We love our rain harvesting system. We collect over 400 gallons of rain water to use all over our backyard orchard, Vineyard and garden. Thank you for your guidance, tips and tricks! You are appreciated.
This system makes me think of the man in Phoenix who noticed when the curb was broken and the water could run off and pool, things started to grow. So he started breaking curbs and letting nature take it's course. I tried goggling him but could not find him.
@@johnlozauskas778 try googling curb cuts, there's a man in Tucson, Dante Archangel.
@@johnlozauskas778 I didn't break any curbs in my neighborhood but I did build a little mote to catch the runoff from a neighbor's irrigation, I tried pumping it into our yard but it just was too shallow..
@@johnlozauskas778 I watched that one too, and was breaking the law doing it, but when he showed the town council the results they changed the law!
Thank you Geoff! It is amazing how so much old knowledge and wisdom can be lost in just 2-3 generations, I sadly grew up knowing so little and I am making it a goal and mission in my life to learn how to forage, grow sustainable systems, and help spread the word peaceful and with love. Thank you so much for your courage and passion to explore learn and grow and to take us along the ride with you. We are learning heaps of information that I know will be passed down to future generations and in turn, restore healthy ecosystems.
Where in morrocco?
Can u plz share its location?
As international community takes interest, locals may wake up as well.
Thanks
It said Inraren in the video. Inraren, Morocco. I have no idea how big an area that is however, I think it would be awesome to see him teach some courses there and see the locals get involved sharing their knowledge as well!! -Cheers!
@@Reyajh Yeah probably true, I see something on the map near Inraren that could be it.
Outside Agadir, if you go from Awrir to Paradise Valley you will find this type of Oasis between Mountains.
Geoff and his followers have changed my life. I am food forresting as fast as I can and spreading the permaculture way. ❤
A project in Morocco? I'm on board. Sign me up!
Wonderful food system. I'm really wanting to do a food forest in the AZ desert. Working on a small one now.
You growing moringa yet? I often consider moving to AZ just to grow those❤
@@rosebraskett Sure am. Had two small ones in pots, thought they died. Planted both together in the ground. I'll be dipped, if they both didn't start growing.
Ones about 5ft tall, the others about 2ft tall. Doing great. I'm in the low desert, near Yuma AZ. Hot.
@@4wdboss230 I ordered some "improved" seeds, pkm2 I think they were called. Out of 25 seeds I got 21 plants lol. I am in WA so I must keep in pot and bring in over winter. Can't beat that nutrition though, so way worth the effort. ❤
@@4wdboss230 moringa love the heat, especially at night and if they have good water. I'm growing some in SoCal right now and they will die back in the winter but once it warms up in late spring they take off
You'll need irrigation,… unless it's a Saguaro forest.
That was great to hear you covering some history about this place,it was a paradise,nowadays slowly disappearing,Soo sad , but still good part of it remain and we wish to preserve it and help out and share knowledge. I'm from the area and would like to see it great again for ever.i heard about geoff was here a month later
It breaks my heart to see.... But at least they'll have fresh gravel on their roads 😑.
Yes. Educate and talk to people in the area. Let them know it’s like one of the 7 wonders of the world. Such an impressive and amazing life span!
Good work Geoff, I think I remember you visiting this place a long time ago and covering it briefly. A PDC does sound like a good idea.
Something I see missing from the tropical and subtropical permaculture is date palms.
Yes The Do Grow in Wet Environment. These days they are being commercially grown in Thailand, Malaysia, Bangladesh, and Indonesia,,,, and they produce a huge amount of food. The only thing is to cover their fruits while ripening so they wouldn't get wet or insects get into them.
And they produce a perfect upper story for other plants growing under them.
Morocco is a Garden of Eden....
Come on Geoff..an English Surfer 🏄♂️ ..lol.
Mate, ever get involved in the regreening guys in Australia?
Enjoy your shows btw.
"Look at these beautiful grapes growing on a date palm... "
Nek minut.
"Food shortages are absolutely imminent!, we're going to have massive famines!"
By massive do you see widespread famine and food chain disruption or catastrophic famine, In that many will perish?
@@xaiverridge9529 part of the NWO
@@xaiverridge9529 Many are unhealthy. overweight and perishing from fast food already. change your diet.
preach brother
This is so fun to fallow you. My family came from Morocco before moving to Mexico. It's fun to see all the places you go to show plant growth. God bless you.
Yes! Absolutely yes!
Fantastic idea to run workshops to repair/improve this ancient example of permaculture- while educating!
Yes yes yes Geoff.
Thank you for your incredible, consistent work in leading the way for our planets food and biodiversity systems...
Thank you thank you thank you.
Utterly priceless
There was an absentee owner of the property next to me. He just came here a couple weekends ago to "clean up" the property. I thought that meant fixing the dilapidated buildings ......
Nope, he cut down most of the trees, shaved the ground vegetation to make it a dusty lot, and left the ugly buildings. 😞
How sad ! I hate it when someone cut trees,especiallg on the mountains. 😢😢😢
Someone probably complained that it was overgrown.
perhaps offer to "manage" it for him going forward?
We just bought a little Quinta in Portugal and I am looking at ways to change the orange monoculture to a more diverse set of fruits and cropping so this video came at the right time for me. Really interesting looking at over storey coverage and food forests in drier areas. Thank you so much.
This UA-cam Channel „The Dutch Farmer“ might be interesting for you.
Thanks for posting and sharing
This needs saving.
We need to re-learn from the older generations. If you think you're smarter than the older, remember that 1960 car owners manuals described how to register engine valves, while 2022 car owners manuals tell "it's forbidden to drink the battery acid"
Wonderful video heartbreaking. I live in Kansas United States. Industrial farming has destroyed my place. As the chemicals have changed the trees started to die. I’ve listen to so many ridiculous excuses. When it’s so obvious when the younger generation takes over the farm they go to chemicals and everything starts dying. They’re so blinded by money it’s sick. My own neighbors continue to poison me and my animals that I cannot get them to stop. You can search my channel name and trees my channel name and chemical farming. See the sprayers 50 feet from my house. My grandkids can’t even visit the soil so contaminated. I continue to try and grow food here and I want to try and grow a food forest. Hopefully open their eyes that things will grow without destroying the environment. 30 years ago every farm had a forest of shade trees. You can’t have a shade tree coming up in a no till field so they almost die for the convenience of the farmer. Or as I call them chemical applicators.
Awesome one Geoff!!! Always motivating and inspirational!!! That red soil looked so rich! So much deeper in color than the surrounding land...
Wow, what an amazing system! Bring it to Australia! It's a shame that the culture of the modern world continues to drive people away from the land and into the cities. I was just asking my husband if we would be doing our kids more of a favour to move to the country and learn how to work the land so they learn it from younger in their lives. But would we then get stuck out there and limit their opportunities in other ways? In the end, all we need is food and a roof over our heads really. Knowing how to create our own and learning how to make a desert productive again should surely become every child's life passion. Shame it might take a famine to make people realise where we are headed and where our priorities ought to be.
What did you husband reply?
Kids need friend a social lives too. Remember to work community into it all.
Hat off Mr. Lawton!
How amazing it is to see and realize how traditional agriculture is in connection and symbiosis with the environment taking care of the soil and letting mother nature do the work for us. Industrial agriculture and extensive single crops are completely the opposite. Destroying the soil with chemicals.....
Thanks for sharing!
Great job!
Thanks for sharing about this site in Morocco again.
I agree it would be a great idea to bring in courses and encourage the young to stay and manage that system. It is too precious to let it die out.
Glad to see you revisit this amazing site. Amazing how old this concept. Glad you pointed out the simplicity. True on the not sacrificing thisis icon. Agree on holding a course there and helping to support its continuation.
Thank you, Geoff!
That’s how donkeys shit. They make a small pile then move on.
I live in tropical south east asia, i have seen many places, rain forest, diversity, it's very humid and cool inside turned into a semi desert soil by modern agriculture farms, the rain washed all fertile soil on top away, and those place become very hot, dry after few years active, after day abandoned it weeds com back dominate, after 10 years the soil has turned to fertile like i saw before, but the diversity is not like it was, what i saw is the plant actually create rain and cool humid climate, rich the soil, and weeds are the best one to do that job in the begin, later is with big wild trees who can create shade and cool microclimate super good, but even the rain forest can turn to desert and semi desert can turn like the things on this video.. It's make me cringe about what we have done.. And could Do.
Absolutely enjoyed video brilliant help this is great I got so much work to catch up on and these videos right on the mark thank you permaculture team you're doing great work we got this
Excellent lesson!
That's awesome,simple yet productive 👌👌👌
Thanks for showing these kinds of places Geoff. Huge eye opener. May you continue to work and live for 100 years 🙏👍🍻
Brilliant, Geoff.
This is truly magnificent! Thank you for sharing.
Thank you Geoff for a lovely and always educational with passion. I dream of having a permaculture farm in marocco. I was there in 2007. Beautiful culture and I Loved the local fresh food. Great idea with teaching a course there. I Hope with my whole Heart that people join together to preserve that beautiful system you showed. It is amazing working with nature and it is all mostly ease and grace if you understand nature. Thank you Geoff for that you do and especially bringi g back the wisdom and understanding to people and communities. Love and Support from Sweden.
Beautiful! Shade is important.
Thank you very much Geoff. A permaculture course and documenting this is critically important. This living sustainable treasure trove is so important for food and knowledge. I hope the Moroccans will actively preserve and conserve , fund this sustainable living system that has been used for over 2,000 years. 800 people farmed here. “Plant the rain” in mulched ditches and reinstate the citrus and bananas. Cover crops and swales would be so good on the bare expanse where the Berber man and his donkey were. Moroccan local governments please get your road rocks elsewhere. Rocks are critical to prevent desertification here.
I would so love to see this as a film to show the critical drylands knowledge, history and food production. Gardening elder’s knowledge……including Berber and relevant other’s oral history.
I love it!!!
👏👏👏👏
Thank you Geoff.
great video Geoff. Looks like a potentially very productive agricultural system. Hope the trend is reversed.
Why is Geoff pronounced Jeff? Freaking English man. I'm a native speaker and shit still doesn't make sense. I don't mean anything negative to the dude himself though. He's cool.
Moving to see this food forest.
Nice content
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The manor is not placed randomly. It's piled up strategically until it's cured, so as not to burn the vegetation. then over time, they spread it out when crops start growing.
Yep.
Thanks
It's all about controlling water. If governments were as interested in water catching and storage as they were in building roads, we'd be living in abundance.
Absolutely beautiful
Anyone else here from the Guardian article? Fascinating video!
Brilliant Geoff, I'm listening 🌿💚🌿
Great video Geoff. Thanks for sharing and bringing attention to this. What a great system, I hope it stays
You should be advising countries as to how to handle their agriculture not Bill Gates!
What a beautiful documentary, such an incentive!
Truly amazing!
I can rememberliving in Oman which has a desert climate, with falaj (water channels carved into the side of valleys and even running underground in tunnels) to water crops growing under palm trees. Specifically up in the mountains with small villages that have been there for years. Quite amazing where rain falls maybe twice a year..
Is that a _Vitex agnus-castus_ in the right foreground at 7:15 ?
Incredible place, many tanks for sharing.
What an amazing place. I hope something can be done to protect it.
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Not gonna happen - we are much too stubborn.!
I would love to go there and learn as volunteer, if you go and teach. Please do it.
Excellent video, presentation and content!
Thank you for sharing. Gorgeous and inspiring!
I'd come work for free there if you teach me for free.
Bravo et merci
Beautiful work brother 🤜🤛