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Billy Corgan On What Makes A Great Songwriter

  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2023
  • In this clip, Billy Corgan of The Smashing Pumpkins talks about his songwriting process and how he chases feelings over musical complexity.
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  • @rickbeato240
    @rickbeato240  2 місяці тому +34

    Full Interview Here: ua-cam.com/video/nAfkxHcqWKI/v-deo.htmlsi=vqZ3cZAWPN7nvcq8

    • @chasemarkmckenzie622
      @chasemarkmckenzie622 2 місяці тому

      Rick, can you interview John Feldmann ?

    • @paradox5391
      @paradox5391 2 місяці тому +2

      One of the best interviews you've done Rick. Billy is such an intelligent and interesting guy to listen to.

    • @SpleenOverseas
      @SpleenOverseas 15 днів тому

    • @asincere7015
      @asincere7015 8 днів тому

      Many songwriter don't know how to teach songwriting or explain in simple terms 😢

  • @scalzmoney
    @scalzmoney 2 місяці тому +965

    People say Billy is arrogant or full of himself. In an interview like this what do you want him to do? Hold back? Play dumb? He's thinking big about his craft and he can articulate it like this. Some day interviews like this will be the ones people watch for historic research. We'll wish that every rock star could discuss their music like Billy does here. Great stuff.

    • @thedappercook
      @thedappercook 2 місяці тому +10

      Who said that?

    • @stealthbastard8837
      @stealthbastard8837 2 місяці тому +12

      He's not arrogant at all here.

    • @scalzmoney
      @scalzmoney 2 місяці тому +47

      In the full interview with Rick he basically takes credit for the sound and success of Nirvana's Nevermind. When you look around the internet there's a lot of negativity towards Billy for that kind of attitude.

    • @j.powellnetwork
      @j.powellnetwork 2 місяці тому +12

      I agree. Being arrogant and being confident are two different things.

  • @princesspeach258
    @princesspeach258 19 годин тому

    This is an awesome interview! It’s so cool to hear Billy talk about how he writes. He writes amazing songs and has such an iconic, unique voice. Smashing Pumpkins is one of my favorite bands of all time!!!!!!

  • @billyhaug
    @billyhaug 2 місяці тому +63

    If, as Billy says, 3/10 hits in a career gets you the Hall of Fame, then Rick is in a hall all by himself. What is shared and gleaned in these interviews…it’s pure treasure. Thank you, Rick.

  • @sladebrannon6917
    @sladebrannon6917 2 місяці тому +97

    I absolutely love the way Billy speaks and articulates everything. His vocabulary is fantastic.

    • @bveracka
      @bveracka 2 місяці тому +8

      He's definitely well spoken and articulate. It's impossible to tell someone how you write a great song and what makes it so good, but he comes close. 'Seems obvious that he enjoys talking about his music. Many of his peers from the nineties don't, so I'm soaking it up.

    • @robertmahoney1662
      @robertmahoney1662 2 місяці тому +3

      Not even so much his vocabulary, which is vast- but his clarity of vision and what he wants to say, is incredible; comes thru in his music too.

    • @bveracka
      @bveracka 2 місяці тому +3

      @@robertmahoney1662 He definitely has a very "deep" way with words which comes through in his songs. His aren't cryptic puzzles - kind of like Maynard Keenan of Tool whose lyrics I love - but they're also not so straightforward that they're boring.
      I guess you could say one hallmark of good songwriting is the ability to get your message across succinctly, and Billy can.

  • @Lovell93
    @Lovell93 2 місяці тому +118

    Billy is a legend. I don't care what the haters say. He's a smart dude and a great songwriter.

    • @GCKelloch
      @GCKelloch 2 місяці тому +3

      I don't get why people hate him. Granted his voice is like nails on a chalkboard, but I love his music and his oh so Hendrixy guitar playing

    • @rolex3560
      @rolex3560 2 місяці тому

      He used to be really arrogant. I saw him up close at the 1994 Lollapalooza. The Beastie Boys started talking &%$# about "The Smashing Pumpkins," I forget which one said it, but he said it the most sarcastic way and into the microphone as they walked off the stage before SM came onstage.

    • @Bloodyshinta1
      @Bloodyshinta1 2 місяці тому +11

      @@rolex3560 your little story makes the beasty boys look arrogant not the pumpkins lmfao

    • @rolex3560
      @rolex3560 2 місяці тому


  • @tdz69
    @tdz69 2 місяці тому +73

    I think Rick needs to adopt the nickname “Professor.” He is so well versed in not just music but the WHY behind it. You can tell that his guests really enjoy the sit downs. He gets to the heart of what musicians want to know and would ask and then some. Arguably one of the greatest interviewers around for musicians.

    • @Allagi22
      @Allagi22 2 місяці тому +8

      He was a music professor at Ithaca College for many years.

    • @bveracka
      @bveracka 2 місяці тому +1

      Naturally, a big reason why he's so good at interviewing famous musicians is because he knows so much about music. It's the opposite of those chicks that MTV or VH1 would send out to touring rock stars back in the day; basically census takers with good looks.
      Funny thing about the "why" in music is that knowing about it doesn't _really_ help you write a great song. Obviously knowing theory helps immensely, and it'll help great songs sound great-er (lol), but the secret sauce is all in the artist. It's a funny paradox.

    • @DoubleTailedDog
      @DoubleTailedDog Місяць тому +1

      Nah, he wouldn't take that from Neil.

    • @bveracka
      @bveracka Місяць тому

      @@DoubleTailedDog I don't get it.

  • @aaronlewis7182
    @aaronlewis7182 Місяць тому +23

    It’s funny how music moves through us. I will say I’m not a big fan of Smashing Pumpkins, nor his voice, yet I listened to this interview and was moved by his honesty and his description of his process! So much to take in and learn. Respect earned. This is a great interview!

    • @felina7849
      @felina7849 Місяць тому

      What was the first song he played?

    • @jordan-xe2yb
      @jordan-xe2yb Місяць тому

      Yea babay

    • @simtaur714
      @simtaur714 2 дні тому

      @@felina7849 Muzzle. Here it's the raw acoustic, so it'll sound different on the recording.

  • @openstrings1077
    @openstrings1077 2 місяці тому +144

    This guy’s a friggin’ songwriting prophet. I hated you in the 90’s Billy but it turns out I was the douchebag not you. The light you’re shining now on your creative process is truly music to my ears

    • @Olehenry
      @Olehenry 2 місяці тому

      Hate really, or what exactly? I just ignored him, personally, I’ve simply never connected w/ any of his work.

    • @aaavellone
      @aaavellone 2 місяці тому +4

      @@Olehenry While the Smashing Pumpkins were active Billy was known for being rude and just a giant POS to other people. Particularly his band mates.

  • @AY-uf4oz
    @AY-uf4oz Місяць тому +21

    Undoubtedly one of rock's greatest songwriters. Certainly, like Roger Waters, one of the most intelligent and articulate artists around. Would love to see him or the whole group do an acoustic, unplugged concert.

    • @tylerbrunton7696
      @tylerbrunton7696 Місяць тому

      I was lucky to see Billy solo on guitar or piano, as the song called for. It was incredible.

  • @SupermanNew52
    @SupermanNew52 2 місяці тому +53

    The Smashing Pumpkins have been my favorite band since 1993 when I was eleven years old. The albums Gish, Siamese Dream, Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, Adore, and Machina are must listen albums. There are great songs here and there in their stuff after Machina(and Machina 2), but they didn't have one single bad song in my opinion from 1988-2000. Billy's solo stuff and the other band he made, Zwan, are really good too. He's a personal hero of mine and I'm so glad he's still alive and making music. Rick Beato is now another, you're the man Rick.

    • @TheDentist27
      @TheDentist27 2 місяці тому +7

      They hit me too with Siamese Dream when I was 12. Something about their music just captured the transition out of childhood perfectly.

    • @precisionsoundworksstudio
      @precisionsoundworksstudio 2 місяці тому +3

      Hear, hear!

      @FREESPIRITSTHEBAND 2 місяці тому +1

      agree with everything you said man, there are not many rock bands with such a stellar discography like SP's, some flawless records there they and even managed to make a near-perfect double album which is almost an impossible task.

    • @gagelindell271
      @gagelindell271 2 місяці тому

      @@FREESPIRITSTHEBAND lol man im so glad my level of expectation of “rock” is higher….SP’s are BOOOOORRRRRIIIIIINNNNGGGG!

  • @SocialCompression
    @SocialCompression 2 місяці тому +48

    I love hearing Billy talk about songwriting and music in general. He has a directness and an ability to articulate his approach/philosophy that is refreshing. Dude is a genius musician.

  • @James-ke4gq
    @James-ke4gq 2 місяці тому +44

    The smashing pumpkins and billy still to this day inspire me. I was in an arts high school when I fell in love with the sound and scope of the pumpkins and their classic albums. Listening to those solos and staring at the Mellon collie album literally felt like I was shooting through space through that album art. It’s so fucking cool and beautiful and heavy and made me feel a deeper connection to this world. I know that I’m meant for this world!!

    • @user-du8lu5qr4g
      @user-du8lu5qr4g 2 місяці тому

      "The". It makes me chuckle when I see that. You may only know them as this name. Its not monumentally important that they (Billy) officially switched to this literal mistake because it was commonly mistaken. I laugh because adding the word "the", turns Smashing Pumpkins from a verb into a noun. They were a mischievous verb. Now theyre "Smashing, baby!" as well as pumpkins. And, let's face it, thats what the author chose to turn Cinderella's coach into after midnight.

    • @zatchg1212
      @zatchg1212 2 місяці тому +1

      I hear u. Mellon collie is a masterpiece, and the artwork on that album to this day is still magical to look at. In every way the album was perfect

  • @scoutwithoutclout
    @scoutwithoutclout 2 місяці тому +44

    Billy seems like he's gotten a lot nicer over the years. All the grunge guys died and he's thriving, still playing. Seems cooler, kinder in interviews too.

    • @jackstraw522
      @jackstraw522 2 місяці тому +6

      A lot of people mellow as they age, especially musicians

    • @threeofeight197
      @threeofeight197 2 місяці тому +1

      @@jackstraw522especially everyone I think. We’re all full of angst when we become adults and see the world and think our way of coping is the best way. Later ya learn. Eh. I guess whatever way that gets you there works. Lol. But you need that fire to really get going without being distracted.

    • @jackstraw522
      @jackstraw522 2 місяці тому +1

      @@threeofeight197 on the other hand a lot of people get very frightened as they get older

    • @threeofeight197
      @threeofeight197 2 місяці тому

      @@jackstraw522 lol. Maybe you’re right. The ppl who start off mellow become frightened. And the ppl who start out freaked out mellow. Hmmmmm. So maybe one day I will be mellow then. ;)

    • @soakedbearrd
      @soakedbearrd Місяць тому +1

      I’m not a huge fan of smashing pumpkins but I like them, and I’ve always gotten the impression that Billy was being Billy, unapologetically. Many people put on masks, and act nice, but I’ve always respected artists that speak from the hip, not to be rude or edgy but because they are secure in themselves, regardless if they lose or gain fans.

  • @snail415
    @snail415 2 місяці тому +18

    Completely, completely agree with all he laid-out. It all boils down to emotional connection. I think few people who learn very young in life that they’re gifted in their ‘sensitivity’ to the story that a song tells (through arrangement, dynamics, etc)…can write great songs with ease. Some of it is a gift, but more than anything it’s the awareness of the gift- and pushing it through life’s exhaust.

    • @elosoguapo8137
      @elosoguapo8137 2 місяці тому +1

      I think he’s correct, but I also think he hasn’t done it nearly as well as he thinks

  • @TheMeJustMe75
    @TheMeJustMe75 2 місяці тому +13

    I was a full on Metal Head but when Siamese Dream came out I couldn't stop listening to the album. At that point I had been playing guitar for about 5 years and I wanted to write more complex sounding guitar parts than just power chords. I think the Progressive Metal of 2023 has really taken what the Smashing Pumpkins did and took it to a higher level.

    • @godloveszaza
      @godloveszaza 2 місяці тому +5

      Metal heads with diverse music taste are always the best and most kindest people you'll run into.

    • @phillipgetsit3408
      @phillipgetsit3408 2 місяці тому

      You rock

    • @Xplora213
      @Xplora213 2 місяці тому

      Pumpkins has a heavy sensibility but very very very folksy vibes as you can hear here. Billy Corgan is a fusion act just like Opeth. Folk music that a metal head can enjoy.

  • @robbiepeterh
    @robbiepeterh 2 місяці тому +25

    Speaking as someone who’s loved Billy’s music since I was 14, this interview is absolutely wonderful.

  • @Daneiladams555
    @Daneiladams555 2 місяці тому +16

    Billy has a great mind
    He’s super wise and articulate
    I’m actually not a fan of his music but I’m a fan of him

  • @zatchg1212
    @zatchg1212 2 місяці тому +14

    Billy corgan is one of the greatest song writers of all time. The pumpkins are so special to me, they provided the musical background of my middle and high school years. His music is forever a part of my life’s soundtrack

    • @attentiondeficitsquirrel7660
      @attentiondeficitsquirrel7660 2 місяці тому +2

      I was 20 when *Gish* was released. The first time I heard it was in October of ‘91 so about 6 months after it was released. My good buddy Derek turned me on to them. This was also the same night that I heard Nirvana’s *Nevermind* for the first time so it was quite an evening.
      I was very high on something my friend, Trey called ET. He was a microbiology major at Arizona State University and he had this powder that was used to facilitate the growth of bacteria and plant clones. It came in a big black bottle with a big white skull and crossbones on and somehow he thought to eat it. Well, it got you very high indeed. Somewhere between ecstasy and meth. Anyway, I digress. I thought Nirvana was great but Smashing Pumpkins BLEW MY MIND! Sonically they were bombastic and fuzz-laden but still very clean and super tight with their own unique blend of grunge, alternative, and psychedelia. *Siva* in particular rocked my socks off and *Bury Me* was just on a whole other level. And *I Am One* was, and still is, a perfect opening track.
      To this day, when I think about or hear that album, I instantly taken to October in the valley where all the sensations and smells still remain. I miss my friends.

  • @CLaFong
    @CLaFong 2 місяці тому +38

    Please do more of these. How do they write songs? I don't have the voice in my head but I want to hear from people who do. The greatest thing in the arts is the ability to write beautiful music.

    • @thefuturist8864
      @thefuturist8864 2 місяці тому +2

      In my experience, paying attention to everything that *could* be a song, or a part of a song, helps a lot. It could be a single interesting rhyme, or a melody, or even just an ambient sound; whatever it is, pay attention to it and don't dismiss it. Write it down, record it, or just do what Stephen King does with his story ideas and trust that, if it's good enough, he'll remember it. Having lots and lots of scraps of things to turn to when you need something to help you write is far better than having to start from nothing and work with nothing.

    • @CamKnoppMusic
      @CamKnoppMusic Місяць тому

      For me I just pickup my guitar everyday and noodle around (basically just improvise) and sometimes (maybe like once a week) I'll randomly stumble across something catchy and I'll start singing along a melody, and maybe some words will come to me. I think most people have the capability to think of a vocal melody at least, its not nearly as hard as you may think.

  • @wilssantos2
    @wilssantos2 2 місяці тому +33

    Oh man. The skit just starts and he goes straight into the chord progression I've always loved the most in Smashing Pumpkins. Muzzle, to me, is really representative of the band - noisy, hard, melodic, sweet. Everything at the same time. Perfect song.
    (I miss the heaviness and the distortion in Smashing Pumpkins, by the way... there's always anger, you can't be just sweet or sad all the time)
    Tonight, Tonight is an amazing song too. The quality of their work on Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness is just out this world.

  • @whychromosomesmusic5766
    @whychromosomesmusic5766 2 місяці тому +62

    Interesting how different musicians/writers have different viewpoints on the process of writing/composing. A great interview of Wire back in the day and a journalist said that they didn't "play the song like the 'original' version." And their response was that the original version was not even what ended up on the first recording. So "nothing" is really the 'original' version. I thought that was a great response.

    • @adamprice3466
      @adamprice3466 2 місяці тому +2

      I thought the movie That Thing You Do captured it pretty well. Each time they play the song in the movie it gets a little more refined. That last version in the movie is very different from the early one.

    • @brandonedge1979
      @brandonedge1979 15 годин тому

      Wire are great, and That Thing You Do is a good movie

  • @dave23024
    @dave23024 2 місяці тому +37

    Props to Billy Corgan. My therapists couldn't even tell me that, despite all the rage, I'm still just a rat in a cage.

  • @helloscreenright
    @helloscreenright 2 місяці тому +9

    He talks about his genius in a way that makes you think you can do it. Amazing.

  • @alexanderlane6007
    @alexanderlane6007 2 місяці тому +12

    This is amazing I’m not a huge Smashing Pumpkins fan but Rick has helped get me to enjoy so many artists I haven’t heard of and some that I have Rick you are a world treasure to music

  • @WE_R_DNA
    @WE_R_DNA 2 місяці тому +9

    Love the questions Rick asks. It's like every musical nerd who is intrigued by the process of a genius and needs to know how. Great job.

  • @chickenmonger123
    @chickenmonger123 2 місяці тому +21

    I get it. Billy is… Billy. I like his music. It’s good. His process makes sense to me. I draw and paint occasionally. It’s pretty clear what he’s doing from that perspective. He starts putting stuff together, and he realizes as he does what he wants it to become. And that’s a dialogue mostly internally, but also with the medium itself. And sometimes in play with others.

  • @mikeyj.philly
    @mikeyj.philly Місяць тому +5

    Its always entertaining for me to watch other songwriters struggle to bridge competing modes of the logos like Billy does in this interview. Its clear he prefers one mode of expression and feels more at home there than with the other. That, to me, is the definition of a songwriter.

  • @HarlanHarvey76
    @HarlanHarvey76 2 місяці тому +51

    This guy literally wrote the soundtrack to my 18yo life...😢
    I'm almost 50 now

    • @mr_unsane
      @mr_unsane 2 місяці тому +1

      Judging by your screen name I have 2 years on you, but for sure I know exactly what you mean !!!

    • @Joao-id4dn
      @Joao-id4dn Місяць тому

      half a century!!!!!!

  • @sitindogmas
    @sitindogmas 2 місяці тому +10

    Billy is one of the reasons I've told my kids that magic is real. they are in their 20s now and still get it 😊

  • @midnightbuffalo2760
    @midnightbuffalo2760 Місяць тому +4

    Love your presentations Rick. Always love listening to Billy talk about his art.

  • @iantuttle92
    @iantuttle92 2 місяці тому +8

    I grew up listening to the pumpkins and collecting every album and spending hours listening to albums on repeat. They will forever be my favorite band. Are they perfect? No one is, but the emotion they projected out of my little boom box speakers will ever leave my body.

  • @markb7340
    @markb7340 2 місяці тому +7

    Was a pumpkins fan when they dropped the 1st album way back when, then moved on. I really like some of Billy's latest interviews, especially this one where he breaks down the emotional side of songwriting on the guitar and what feels right vs what sounds right.

  • @taylorvolleberg
    @taylorvolleberg 2 місяці тому +8

    I love hearing the point of view of the artist. You get these stigmas about artists as you grow up, you hear these songs for years and years and develop personal opinions. When you finally get to hear the artist speak on their motivations and emotions, their purpose for writing... it becomes something new, it becomes a new form of magic. He said something mid way through this video about decision making in his mind, 'yes yes, no yes' I can full heartedly relate to that on a fundamental level. I'll need to watch the full interview but this clip was a very happy surprise. Thank you Rick for doing what you do and how you approach the reality of asking the real questions

  • @michaelphickey
    @michaelphickey 2 місяці тому +16

    Rick, you are the best at getting pure gold out of these incredible interviews. Best of UA-cam. Inspiring stuff!

  • @CreationsVibration
    @CreationsVibration Місяць тому +7

    The entire double album is an absolute masterpiece

  • @nickswettenham1877
    @nickswettenham1877 2 місяці тому +6

    Billy Corgan is a legend. Been in one of the biggest bands in the world and now owns his own wrestling company. If I could live someone else’s life, it would be his ❤️💪🏼

    • @oceancrosby4578
      @oceancrosby4578 2 місяці тому

      Dang Nick, that's quite a complement. I'm just learning about "The Great Pumpkin", I loved the interview. The song writing stuff is fascinating, and his offer of scholarships coming out of high school but took his chances on his own road. Lots to admire.

  • @bveracka
    @bveracka 2 місяці тому +6

    That bit of _Muzzle_ he played is as good as the original recording, making it clear that he's still got it. He has a flair for writing catchy and cathartic melodies - undoubtedly cementing him among the nineties' greatest songwriters. I liked this video so much I've watched it three times, and played back the 0:23 to 1:16. Controversial though his opinions of his peers are, it's hard not to like him for writing so many good songs.
    Also, I'm interested to hear how you [Rick] ended up in a studio with him. You must've been stoked to get to hear him play and talk a while. 👍

  • @I-0-0-I
    @I-0-0-I 2 місяці тому +11

    What a great segment, especially around 6:14. That's solid talk... "Is this the movie that I'm trying to make.." YES! That's the internal monologue stuff. Good job getting at it, both of you guys.

  • @bobwerber2984
    @bobwerber2984 2 місяці тому +7

    Rick you have some of the very best stuff I've ever seen about how songs are created. The musicians are so comfortable with you and and your level of knowledge that they open up wonderfully.

  • @supermarioxs1
    @supermarioxs1 25 днів тому +1

    For me it’s all about inspiration, I don’t care what Billy or anyone says . Each to their own and unique way of writing !!! I don’t believe there is just one way of writing , that’s what makes us all unique!!!

  • @Sinevuetech
    @Sinevuetech 8 днів тому

    Thank you Rick for bringing forth this beatiful niche insight, i mean it's crystal clear what is being accomplished with this open source look at music. Wonderful and well done!

  • @slick222
    @slick222 23 дні тому +1

    People call him arrogant but miss how generous he is. He genuinely tries to share things that are hard to explain with people probably knowing it will sound bad at parts.

  • @ericluchon5401
    @ericluchon5401 Місяць тому +1

    I have absolutely loved SP for decades now, and hearing Billy discuss his song writing process just floored me. Love this video.

  • @shiftybat7318
    @shiftybat7318 2 місяці тому +3

    I love Billy trying to explain the 'not good' brain itch you get when your progression is missing something in resolution or transition. Trust in that itch. But as far as writing styles are concerned i.e; simple vs complex I tend to think of it like Paul Williams described mentalities in his book Das Energi - indulge in everything or nothing at all. No wrong answers. Sometimes I need symphonic metal with an ADHD coloring book's worth of polyrhythmic sounds, and sometimes I need Iggy Pop's Nightclubbing. Trust your itch.

  • @user-dc7um4pr3f
    @user-dc7um4pr3f 2 місяці тому +12

    The baseball analogy is the best piece of advice. Just write a lot. You have to have a lot of failed at bats to have hits. And you really only need to convert on a minority of the songs you write. But just keep swinging. Love that modesty. I'm an amateur song writer and sometimes you just get one that's actually good and people seem to like it. Then you show them something else you've done and they don't like it at all. Kinda cool that you can't turn it on. It just comes to you when you need it.

    • @Roarksmusic
      @Roarksmusic 2 місяці тому

      Inspiration is a muse own it's own. Where does it come from? I was inspired to write a song about it myself.

    • @chetsenior7253
      @chetsenior7253 Місяць тому

      Most of my songs turn out to be me hitting hit by a pitch. 😁🧌

  • @mccalltrader
    @mccalltrader Місяць тому

    I’ve never been more a fan of Billy Corgan than now
    What an outstanding interview

  • @evilldead6824
    @evilldead6824 2 місяці тому +16

    what billy said at the beginning is so true. I like music for so many genres and most of the time i don't really know why i do but i just do. From Zach Bryan to Smashing Pumpkins Blink 182 Miles Davis to Enya! I think its much healthier to broaden choices and don't feel any shame for your choices!

    • @SupermanNew52
      @SupermanNew52 2 місяці тому +1

      I use the same train of thought, I say my musical tastes go from The Wiggles to Cradle of Filth. That about covers everything lol.

  • @mr_unsane
    @mr_unsane 2 місяці тому +5

    Just seen the Pumpkins a couple weeks ago, Ive seen them several times, and honestly this was the best Ive ever seen them. I also want to say this was one of the best live shows I have seen in a LONG LONG LONNNNG TIME!

  • @DrWasabiBeats
    @DrWasabiBeats 2 місяці тому +12

    What a fascinating way to explain it Billy...wonderful! Another fabulous interview Rick 💚

  • @DB_Noriega
    @DB_Noriega Місяць тому

    Billy always makes playing guitar and singing look easy... he's amazing

  • @TonyMouawad
    @TonyMouawad 2 місяці тому

    I love this so much! Rick sharing this intimate moment of how Billy song writes. Billy's insight is sooooo compelling. I want more!

  • @brandonedge1979
    @brandonedge1979 16 годин тому

    Love when he sings soft like this. Machina acoustic demos is great example of that. Really beautiful

  • @luxuriousfir
    @luxuriousfir 2 місяці тому +5

    Billy is awesome! Such an amazing songwriter musician.

  • @charles1513
    @charles1513 2 місяці тому +5

    What a fantastic conversation about the process! And between 2 very articulate artists! 👍❤️

  • @monikitand
    @monikitand Місяць тому +1

    I love Billy billying, that he is being the great communicator he is, either through words or music. I could listen to him for hours and not getting enough of his wisdom.❤

  • @richardbell9500
    @richardbell9500 2 місяці тому +5

    Will be viewed as one of the great composers a hundred years from now.

  • @Apollocreed2076
    @Apollocreed2076 Місяць тому

    This interview was great. Hearing the artist explaining the creative process was beautiful.

  • @jodee8831
    @jodee8831 2 місяці тому +2

    I believe musicians that are truly self aware, or honest with themselves, know what songs are going to be hits... in general terms... they know good hooks... good transitions and builds... it's not a "coin toss"... that's a certain ego that says you can't remove yourself from what you've created to imagine how it's perceived

  • @terrariumelio974
    @terrariumelio974 2 місяці тому +2

    Art is about evoking emotion.Billy’s music does that brilliantly.

  • @andyianniello
    @andyianniello 2 місяці тому +1

    Rick, I find myself rewatching your interviews and always discovering something new each time. Another fabulous interview. Late 80s into early 90s I was in an original band playing Bos/Prov clubs. Cut vinyl when everybody was migrating to CDs. My lead singer/song writer was infatuated with Billy. His brilliance etc.... I didn't really understand at the time. Now I do.
    ....I was the drummer, lol
    Having said that, at age 63 and still drumming, I wink and nod to all the greats whenever I'm out there, and, only when appropriate. 😉

  • @graemeogle4492
    @graemeogle4492 2 місяці тому +12

    You did it Rick….you made me love him! You monster!!!

    • @SupermanNew52
      @SupermanNew52 2 місяці тому +2

      You don't know how happy I am to see this comment. Billy shouldn't be defined by his few bad moments in interviews when he has a giant list of great moments with his music and interviews like this one where he's just wonderful.

  • @cotyreed047360
    @cotyreed047360 2 місяці тому

    I love the smashing pumpkins! Billy is awesome! James, jimmy, they are just so unique. Will always be my favorite band!

  • @uneedtherapy42
    @uneedtherapy42 2 місяці тому +12

    It can’t be easy to demand that much from yourself and the songs you write but I’ll go as far as saying this is why the 90s were the last great musical decade.

    • @NinetiesYouth
      @NinetiesYouth 2 місяці тому +3

      they absolutely were 😢

    • @alexmalch
      @alexmalch 2 місяці тому

      Ty Segall wants to have a word with you

    • @chetsenior7253
      @chetsenior7253 Місяць тому

      Ty Segall isn’t a cultural shift.

  • @johne.1011
    @johne.1011 2 місяці тому +4

    Great interview and very helpful to me to in understand song writing more. Billy sounds very intelligent and thoughtful...easy to see why he is so successful.

  • @martinrice9190
    @martinrice9190 16 днів тому +1

    There is no right or wrong way to write as song just like there is no right or wrong way to paint a picture. Everyone & everything is unique in it's own special way. Quote by Marty Rice.

  • @lorenzomusso91eidolon
    @lorenzomusso91eidolon 2 місяці тому +1

    I do agree, 100% ... And btw, I think that Rick's interviews with Billy are the best around. Lots to hear, to learn. Not only about Billy's vision and knowledge, but about him too. Perfect.

  • @jimburkett9799
    @jimburkett9799 2 місяці тому

    You can say what you want.. but Billy is a songwriting/composing genius.

  • @Bottomfeederonfire
    @Bottomfeederonfire 2 місяці тому +2

    Sometimes the first take captures the magic of the moment. You have to just roll with any imperfections. I’ve recorded a lot of musical projects for artists over the years. Number one thing that can ruin a recording is over analyzing your performance. That’s why the stripped down era of grunge recordings resonates with many people.

    • @gdemolished6986
      @gdemolished6986 18 днів тому

      I remember Lenny Kravitz talking about when he had Slash record a solo on his album. He said Slash laid down a “scratch” take and Lenny liked it so much he decided to keep it as “the” take. He also said Slash begged him for days to let him redo it. The scratch take actually made the album though.

  • @F110mech
    @F110mech 9 днів тому +1

    Can we go back to 1996 already? I feel so old, and Billy's looks today aren't helping. He's still got it!!!

  • @deepsix1827
    @deepsix1827 2 місяці тому +28

    The Pumpkins are probably my favorite of all the 90s bands.

    • @marrow94
      @marrow94 2 місяці тому

      Mine are Megadeth

    • @skratchrapture
      @skratchrapture 2 місяці тому +4

      @ marrow94
      I want him removed from the building!

    • @Hilaire_Balrog
      @Hilaire_Balrog 2 місяці тому

      @@marrow94ironic, mine are both.

    • @ishmael2586
      @ishmael2586 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@marrow94mine are Hanson

    • @MrGilMoNayO
      @MrGilMoNayO Місяць тому

      Jane's with Eric

  • @joellebrodeur1015
    @joellebrodeur1015 Місяць тому

    I appreciate his process and how he articulates the inner workings of that process. With that said, I only like one Pumpkins tune and never cared for their work growing up. I go back to listen to them and my perception remains the same

  • @patrickjoy9551
    @patrickjoy9551 25 днів тому

    I think some people have an intellectual and some have an instinctual mind when it comes to composing. Billy is intellectual enough to let his instincts move him. His style of music isnt my taste but I have mad respect for his musicality.

  • @Zerkzeez
    @Zerkzeez Місяць тому

    Billy was one of the best interviews.

  • @StrangeAttractor
    @StrangeAttractor 13 днів тому

    Muzzle is maybe the most beautiful set of lyrics Billy ever wrote. It encapsulated my youth, but it also speaks volumes to me in middle age. Thom Yorke, Tori Amos... there are other great lyricists of that era. But Billy has gotta be top 5. Right?

  • @user-zd7ps7do8k
    @user-zd7ps7do8k 2 місяці тому +1

    Absolute gold. I love these interviews ❤

  • @wave8362
    @wave8362 2 місяці тому

    Wait, so now there's two of them? I mean, that's wonderful. We do need more Rick Beato's in this world. ♥

  • @jakubhladik5898
    @jakubhladik5898 Місяць тому +1

    Months? He’s lucky. I’ve unlocked a new level of neuroticism where I work on songs for years because I get to a point and think “I’m not good enough at X to get it there. Or I can’t afford the studio time to get X track to where I want it. Which is why I’ve been working on a follow up album for 8 years.
    Luckily our label hasn’t dropped us. But they stopped asking when the record will be done.
    Many songs are like 95% done. That last 5% can be a real bitch.
    But then some songs are written and recorded in 4 hours and they’re great and the hours you put in afterwards just makes them worse.
    Songwriting is one of the most mysterious things in the universe. I love hearing Billy explain it. I think this interview really helped me. Especially “have I said everything I need to say”. Perfect!

  • @vicktorv
    @vicktorv 2 місяці тому +1

    Billy accompanied me in my moments of depression and uncertainty, that's why he is part of my family.

  • @joewehlage6832
    @joewehlage6832 2 місяці тому

    A raw catalyst for emotion. It’s not about billy, but about billy simply being.

  • @Dmeador
    @Dmeador 2 місяці тому +2

    Billy Corgan !! The man with some of the most important knowledge to music industry ..That man has fallen and got back up so many times ! The knowledge of the peoples life.. I want to learn along lifes highway . As so many amazing people has given me words of encouragement and understanding of knowledge as words is so valuable of information it is priceless!! I will be watching this video for days and listen to the knowledge of the information I am hearing.. I need to hear it again and again..I thank you for all the videos and all that you do Rick,. Thank you my brother.. I love you and God bless your soul.. I loved the interview video of Myles Kennedy.. Man I have been dreaming a long time.. I have also been broke and pour a long time and to see I have been broke and pour a lot longer than I have been alive .. My passion for music is unreal and unexplained.. I been playing my heart out since I was 13.. It all started playing a bass at church ..My dad and me and another man was the musician at my small town church.. My life dream is to become a guitar player and song writer and making music....lol. I am speaking the truth and from my heart.. My father is now 71 years old ..AS SOON AS he picks up his guitar PLAYs it all day.. he has had a awesome day . I know no one really cares or gives a dam what I am saying or try to say .. I am now 44 years old .. The passion of making music and play music and writing song.. Is so unexplainable ..music to me is so addicting.. music to me is a drug.. I am trying to explain it to the world of what I have inside of me that I can't hide or am trying to keep it a secret.. I must give this world all I can.

  • @Vortexafternoon
    @Vortexafternoon 2 місяці тому

    I love listening to this stuff. Billy is a great guest. So cool to have a.. cerebral ... artist explain his craft .

  • @jakeah1175
    @jakeah1175 2 місяці тому +2

    Such superb interviewing skills - ends up drawing Billy into digging deep for incredible answers

  • @johnnyeaton
    @johnnyeaton Місяць тому

    This is the most relaxed I've ever seen Billy Corgan. He must love just talking about songwriting and process, and maybe Beato is a comforting dude. I mean, it makes sense because Beato is such a music fan. A lot of what Corgan says makes total sense to me. There's so much of songwriting that's just not explainable. There are parts that are, for sure, but there's that elusive thing that we all chase and there are so many terms for it.

  • @DaveKerrGentleExperimental
    @DaveKerrGentleExperimental 2 місяці тому

    Two very fine musicians. It's an absolute pleasure watching your videos.

  • @mercster
    @mercster 2 місяці тому +5

    Billy Corgan is a treasure. 👍

  • @johnflynn2109
    @johnflynn2109 2 місяці тому +2

    What billy doesnt understand is some in the audience know before the song starts what song it will be. Its ethereal in a weird way. So many phish shows ive been able to way the next song is ..... and it happens. The SP tickets are too much for this time in my life.

  • @bensolo7217
    @bensolo7217 2 місяці тому

    The bit about the second take being the "one" for Tonight, Tonight IS weird because there was this interview in Guitar World or Guitar Player around the release of MCIS where they were discussing the approach regarding the multiple
    ¹and in it Billy said something that stuck with me all these years.
    " When you're in there [ in the studio ] you're literally committing your creation to permanence. You're immortalizing your song. Why wouldn't you make sure it's perfect?"

  • @johnnyxmusic
    @johnnyxmusic 2 місяці тому +10

    As a sketchy, if prolific and pre-successful songwriter, I’ll say that you start with something can you try to put it together in a certain way because maybe it’s about some thing what do you think it’s about some thing… But somewhere in the middle of a process the song starts talking back to you and telling you what it needs and what it wants to be. And you are the first witness. and you work in service of the song.

  • @honjon666
    @honjon666 2 місяці тому +6

    "Billy Corgan, Smashing Pumpkins."
    "Rick Beato, smiling politely."

  • @bayerhead
    @bayerhead Місяць тому

    When I was fiddling with music as a kid it was "skies the limit" and when I learned time signatures it changed everything. Music is flawed! It's not perfect. Mistakes are made. It's beautiful.

  • @bhavearth
    @bhavearth 2 місяці тому +1

    such a precious moment ! Billy is so humble

  • @Elevenbravo_ABN
    @Elevenbravo_ABN 2 місяці тому

    It’s always great to see muzzle getting some credit. This is one of my all-time favorite smashing pumpkins songs, and one of their under-appreciated masterpieces. Also notable, is chamberlains incredible drumming on this track.

    • @leadme2thebliss21
      @leadme2thebliss21 2 місяці тому

      I wouldn't say it's "under-appreciated" just because it was never released as a single doesn't mean millions of people who bought/own the record absolutely loved it. It's definitely one of the fan favorites from Mellon Collie, for sure! It's one of those songs you hear for the first time and it sticks with you, it's an incredibly catchy/well written song. Just because Rick Beato is talking about it now on his YT channel doesn't mean it's "finally getting some credit" 🤣

    • @Elevenbravo_ABN
      @Elevenbravo_ABN 2 місяці тому

      You’re one of those people who likes to disagree and argue just for the sake of it.
      I stand by my statement 100%, so we’ll have to agree to disagree.

    • @leadme2thebliss21
      @leadme2thebliss21 2 місяці тому

      @@Elevenbravo_ABN Not really, but if that's the assumption you want to make then go with it, brother! 😁👍

    • @leadme2thebliss21
      @leadme2thebliss21 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Elevenbravo_ABN The first sentence in your comment alone is not factual and you act as though UA-cam is the only source where music fans go to listen to music. This song is easily one of the most important songs from easily one of the most well known/successful rock albums to come out of the 90s. I'm not trying to argue, just trying to enlighten you and open your mind up a bit. Trust me, I'm a 90s kid I bought this album the first week it was released and so did all of my friends, Muzzle was the HIT on the album that was not released as a proper single/music video.

    • @Elevenbravo_ABN
      @Elevenbravo_ABN 2 місяці тому

      It never ceases to amaze me that the dumbest and most ill-informed people are the most arrogant. You can’t enlighten someone who’s smarter than you.
      And Don’t even try to play the age card with me, because I’m probably older than you. I also bought melon colllie at the record store, the day it came out.

  • @LukeHuchMusic
    @LukeHuchMusic 2 місяці тому +1

    Lots more sing writing discussions with Billy please!

  • @festythenoun
    @festythenoun Місяць тому

    I have met and shaken hands with a decent number of well-known people and musicians, but getting to go backstage and shake hands with Billy Corgan was the only time I’ve been starstruck. The genius in him is quiet but palpable if you’re the type that picks up on people’s vibes.

    • @queensmove
      @queensmove Місяць тому

      Same! I met him in 1995 at a record signing and I couldn't get any words out when he said hello to me. I just stood there like an idiot. Only time I've ever been starstruck. And I've met quite a few musicians in my life.

  • @jonwalkosak655
    @jonwalkosak655 Місяць тому

    When Billy started he was about being technical playing guitar. Like into solos, but then he realized that wasn't what music was about and started getting more emotional & soulful.

  • @cloudrun654
    @cloudrun654 2 місяці тому +2

    Its nice to hear accomplished artists talking about how a big part of their creative success comes from personality though their instrument over technical music theory knowledge; which over reliance on makes a guitarist sound dry or boring.

  • @user-wi2dp3ol9m
    @user-wi2dp3ol9m 2 місяці тому

    One of the best song writers out there🎉

  • @thebluntandonly
    @thebluntandonly 2 місяці тому

    When it comes to music being explained in emotions I always like how Jeremy Soule explains it

  • @chrislivingstone1843
    @chrislivingstone1843 2 місяці тому +1

    I’ve never seen a better interview of a musician, and this was the best part.