Thats awesome. First time I seen the flanges on the outside of the track. My snowblower ones are tucked inside, but you have plenty more room in yours to put the motors.
Actually it can climb stairs, that's what i've been working on. I changed the gear ratio and changed some other components, I geared it way down, and it can climb the steps and carry a 100 pound payload. I'll post a video eventually. I've seen your video from a long time ago, awesome bot. I've thought about re-doing my bot all in aluminum or perhaps steel, would make it pretty rugged, the plastic is very strong though and it's just so easy to CNC, which is why i use it.
Nicely done! Wish you'd show a little more detail on how you integrated the motors into the track frames. Most designs I've seen have the motors inside the robot. Very nice work!
Its way cool. I think if the wheelbase were a bit longer it might climb stairs. Have you tried stair climbing with the higher voltage you mentioned? I'll send you a link to one of my platforms also using Dual Roboteq speed controller and NPC motors... Great work! Chris from Inspectorbots
Hey thanks for the reply ....sounds you have invested a lot in this. Wouldn't it have been easier/more economical to just use snowblower tracks and cogs etc.?
I really like your prototype. I was working on a bot like this some years ago and the main problem I had was the trackers because there is no much material to work with where I live. I would like to see your next version maybe with a suspension system. Congrats!!!
@@klicker0 I have a failed rc mower I use as a cart to hault stuff around then a tracked machine that was meant for plowing. Not the best plow. That I'm making more modular at the moment to move around trailers also!
I made the wheels out of plastic, there's one part that's flat and rides the track like a flat belt, and then there's a spacer and the cogs just out of plastic. I had the cnc run hundreds of passes to smooth the cogs, so they would smoothly re-align if there was any issue, but the tracks stay on pretty well, well the never move an 1/16th of an inch out of where they are supposed to be.
howd you get the money for this? or did you get the parts from somewhere for free? from what ive found those motor controllers, motors, and tracks cost many hundreds
Somewhere between 200lbs and 250lbs, the HDPE plastic used is heavy, batteries are 90lbs, motors and gearboxes are 80lbs, chassis/wheels 50-75lbs, tracks are 20lbs. I've never weighed it
awesome ... im on to builing something similar... what kind of hardware do you use in coorp. with the app???? a link or partlist would be great cheers !
Can we use the motor that you have used with ordinary L298N motor driver and Beagle bone black/raspberry pie? Or did you design any special driver circuit for motors? Thanks .
L298N chips are very low power, 1Amp continuous if you're lucky, you need a controller priced similarly or more then the motor itself. You could put 150 L298N's chips in parallel and that might work, but that would require an aweful lot of effort, and there are many other alternatives. It also depends on how hard you are going to push the motor itself.
@CyberFad I dunno, I think for my application they should be alright. In 20 inches of snow or something extreme I should really have an angled front, which I could add. It has a large track surface area though. If you mean general offroad stuff, then yes I'd imagine many terrains would cause issues, but that's really not the intention of this one. I could raise the box/middle thing if I really need to.
I had no plans to, no, plus it may not look it, but it's actually very costly. There are some ways to reduce some costs, but in this video the dual motor controllers are $650 each, the motors are $300 each, the tracks i don't remember, i think $150 each. There's an onboard computer, high power wireless access point. gearboxes are $200 each. There's a lot that could be done to reduce costs, partly some of the stuff was just what I had laying around. Not to mention CNC and HDPE plastic costs.
+Axle Foley I'm pretty sure that's right, on ebay I just search youth snowmobile track, I got mine from.. lemme look, well I just searched that term, the first result (feb 2016) is a different brand of track, arctic cat soucy, I have some of those as well, I got them because they don't have the nubs (I don't know what they are called, the rubber parts that stick on inside the track that hook into the drive wheel). I got "nubless" ones so I could make a smaller diameter wheel for a smaller project, it was pretty hard to keep them ontrack though, and eventually I used snowblower tracks, (honda brand is all over ebay), they can be made with smaller drive wheels, for smaller projects. Here they are, there's 2 major youth snowmobile tracks, Ski-doo Mini Z, and Arctic Cat Kitty Cat. Arctic Cat 120 looks to be a pretty large track, I have some of those tracks as well, but that is much larger then these. Freedom Cycle on ebay, that's where I got some of the tracks from, search "track" on their store, they even have robot track kits, which are the Honda snowblower tracks I was talking about, I didn't order the ones with the wheels though, I made my own wheels as I wanted them smaller. That's a different project that i've never posted anything about, mostly cause it doesn't work :) haha.. well it's not done in any capacity.
+Cihan Kocabaş Roboteq Controllers, you can see them around 1:50 to 2:20 in the video, and other places. Roboteq HDC2450S, so a single controller for each NPC Black Max motor, Roboteq controllers are nice, but they are rated for 300A, and even actively cooling them (in this video they aren't, course they aren't overloaded in this video, the wires smoke but that's different) they don't really do 300A for long, if at all. With good air cooling of the controller i've gotten about 100 Amp continuous, almost. They have built in thermal protection of course, so you never hurt them, the motor you're using just starts to not work, or mainly it lowers the output to a fraction of what it should be. Depending on what you're doing the controllers aren't worth it, i'm not sure i'll buy anymore, certain golf cart controllers are the same price, and handle 500A bi-directional and they actually are continuous, kelly controllers. Roboteq does have the advantage of a USB connection and built in safety features though, which is worth the price in some cases.
I don't think I have to much invested, it was just another robot setup, I had the motors/gearboxes/controllers so I just had to make the frame. I think snowmobile cogs would be great if they fit into the dimensions I wanted, they did not, so I made my own. Really making them myself doesn't cost me much, cept time, the HDPE plastic is a bit pricey, but I used extra I had.
+Robots4Sale I'm not quite sure what you're asking for, just the chassis or the chassis and electronics and motors? I mean i'm not really selling these, it's really not that spectacularly put together, it has flaws, I wouldn't really want to sell it as it's not a very refined product, in any way. It wasn't really meant to be, it's just a toy really. Plus ontop of that, even if you just asked to have the chassis/frame cutout, HDPE plastic alone was $500 or so, and cutting HDPE (for me at least) is a huge pain and takes forever. You're talking thousands just for the frame not assembled. If I put all the chassis parts into emachineshop dot com (which i've used before and am familiar with their pricing) i'd guess they would charge 5 to 8 thousand to cut the parts out, of course I think they are severely overpriced, a local machine shop might be a better choice, still at minimum a lot. Buy a CNC machine, it'd be cheaper, seriously, then you could cut it yourself.
+klickrr ok well i just need something like a tank tread or 4wd vehicle. i will add my own electronics. i just need a chassis and 4 wheels and 4 motors or a tank tread. thats it. i would like the wheels to be maybe 8 or more inches tall. something that can drive through the woods easily with plenty of ground clearance and power. maybe like the thumber but that may be small
+Gabriel Chamoun catepillar wheels? Do you mean the tracks? Search ebay for youth snowmobile track, you can find the tracks that way. Or snowblower tracks on ebay.
+Martin Likavec It's just a custom App I wrote, it's extremely specific to my entire setup, it wouldn't be useful to you. There are many apps for bots like this on github, ardurover has some, other people published some stuff, i'd release mine but it's just one piece of the equation, you also need corresponding software and microcontrollers on the bot, it would take me days to just find all the code and upload it and explain how to set it up... and it's really not that great, other open source software is available that is much better, just search a bit on github or ardurover related projects.
Thats awesome. First time I seen the flanges on the outside of the track. My snowblower ones are tucked inside, but you have plenty more room in yours to put the motors.
You certainly made some good component choices! No lack of power there with the black max motors...good work!
Actually it can climb stairs, that's what i've been working on. I changed the gear ratio and changed some other components, I geared it way down, and it can climb the steps and carry a 100 pound payload. I'll post a video eventually. I've seen your video from a long time ago, awesome bot. I've thought about re-doing my bot all in aluminum or perhaps steel, would make it pretty rugged, the plastic is very strong though and it's just so easy to CNC, which is why i use it.
Omg, I can hear it in your kids voice... he's going to be as amazing of an inventor as you. "Uhhh I KNOW! I have an idea Daddy!!!"
Nicely done! Wish you'd show a little more detail on how you integrated the motors into the track frames. Most designs I've seen have the motors inside the robot. Very nice work!
Its way cool. I think if the wheelbase were a bit longer it might climb stairs. Have you tried stair climbing with the higher voltage you mentioned?
I'll send you a link to one of my platforms also using Dual Roboteq speed controller and NPC motors...
Great work!
Chris from Inspectorbots
Hey thanks for the reply ....sounds you have invested a lot in this. Wouldn't it have been easier/more economical to just use snowblower tracks and cogs etc.?
Haha. That's really cool. I bet your son loves your hobby too!
Differential steering with one controller stick? I didn't know it was possible. Nice looking setup. Thanks for sharing.
I really like your prototype. I was working on a bot like this some years ago and the main problem I had was the trackers because there is no much material to work with where I live.
I would like to see your next version maybe with a suspension system.
Congrats!!!
I have also learned haveing a working robot to recover the broken one is very handy
Always keep a working robot for the broken one, agreed :)
@@klicker0 I have a failed rc mower I use as a cart to hault stuff around then a tracked machine that was meant for plowing. Not the best plow. That I'm making more modular at the moment to move around trailers also!
Those motors draw a lot of current …what motor controllers did you use?
Nice one! just one thing, the clearance, doesn't it bother you? isn't it too low?
I made the wheels out of plastic, there's one part that's flat and rides the track like a flat belt, and then there's a spacer and the cogs just out of plastic. I had the cnc run hundreds of passes to smooth the cogs, so they would smoothly re-align if there was any issue, but the tracks stay on pretty well, well the never move an 1/16th of an inch out of where they are supposed to be.
They are youth snowmobile tracks, search that on ebay and the top results are the tracks. They are 120 inches long, 10 inches wide.
howd you get the money for this?
or did you get the parts from somewhere for free?
from what ive found those motor controllers, motors, and tracks cost many hundreds
Cool. Are you going to sell them?
nice project!!! thou like to ask about the
wheel tracks how do i get them??
Hi, I was wondering where you purchased the track assembly?
Somewhere between 200lbs and 250lbs, the HDPE plastic used is heavy, batteries are 90lbs, motors and gearboxes are 80lbs, chassis/wheels 50-75lbs, tracks are 20lbs. I've never weighed it
Would this be possible with an Arduino instead of a beagleboard? Maybe not the andorid app but could it work with a normal transmitter.
I am searching for these specific tracks. Is there any way you can post the make/model/size? Thanks. Good job BTW.
awesome ... im on to builing something similar...
what kind of hardware do you use in coorp. with the app????
a link or partlist would be great
cheers !
Can we use the motor that you have used with ordinary L298N motor driver and Beagle bone black/raspberry pie? Or did you design any special driver circuit for motors?
Thanks .
L298N chips are very low power, 1Amp continuous if you're lucky, you need a controller priced similarly or more then the motor itself. You could put 150 L298N's chips in parallel and that might work, but that would require an aweful lot of effort, and there are many other alternatives. It also depends on how hard you are going to push the motor itself.
Me too!
Where did you find those tracks?
Did they come with the wheels too?
Keep up the good work man!
Can I ask what you are using for drive cogs on this?
@CyberFad I dunno, I think for my application they should be alright. In 20 inches of snow or something extreme I should really have an angled front, which I could add. It has a large track surface area though. If you mean general offroad stuff, then yes I'd imagine many terrains would cause issues, but that's really not the intention of this one. I could raise the box/middle thing if I really need to.
Excuse the disturbance where I can find cheap cigoli?
I had no plans to, no, plus it may not look it, but it's actually very costly. There are some ways to reduce some costs, but in this video the dual motor controllers are $650 each, the motors are $300 each, the tracks i don't remember, i think $150 each. There's an onboard computer, high power wireless access point. gearboxes are $200 each. There's a lot that could be done to reduce costs, partly some of the stuff was just what I had laying around. Not to mention CNC and HDPE plastic costs.
So what about this makes it a Robot and not just a remote control tank?
These look like Arctic Cat 120 tracks, is that about right?
+Axle Foley I'm pretty sure that's right, on ebay I just search youth snowmobile track, I got mine from.. lemme look, well I just searched that term, the first result (feb 2016) is a different brand of track, arctic cat soucy, I have some of those as well, I got them because they don't have the nubs (I don't know what they are called, the rubber parts that stick on inside the track that hook into the drive wheel). I got "nubless" ones so I could make a smaller diameter wheel for a smaller project, it was pretty hard to keep them ontrack though, and eventually I used snowblower tracks, (honda brand is all over ebay), they can be made with smaller drive wheels, for smaller projects. Here they are, there's 2 major youth snowmobile tracks, Ski-doo Mini Z, and Arctic Cat Kitty Cat. Arctic Cat 120 looks to be a pretty large track, I have some of those tracks as well, but that is much larger then these. Freedom Cycle on ebay, that's where I got some of the tracks from, search "track" on their store, they even have robot track kits, which are the Honda snowblower tracks I was talking about, I didn't order the ones with the wheels though, I made my own wheels as I wanted them smaller. That's a different project that i've never posted anything about, mostly cause it doesn't work :) haha.. well it's not done in any capacity.
Thanks! I have a snowblower track beast now. Been a long time project to keep improving it. Thanks for the tips.
why don't ya make a video about building this stuff?
hi, which dual motor driver did you integrate in it? is it sabertooth?
+Cihan Kocabaş Roboteq Controllers, you can see them around 1:50 to 2:20 in the video, and other places. Roboteq HDC2450S, so a single controller for each NPC Black Max motor, Roboteq controllers are nice, but they are rated for 300A, and even actively cooling them (in this video they aren't, course they aren't overloaded in this video, the wires smoke but that's different) they don't really do 300A for long, if at all. With good air cooling of the controller i've gotten about 100 Amp continuous, almost. They have built in thermal protection of course, so you never hurt them, the motor you're using just starts to not work, or mainly it lowers the output to a fraction of what it should be. Depending on what you're doing the controllers aren't worth it, i'm not sure i'll buy anymore, certain golf cart controllers are the same price, and handle 500A bi-directional and they actually are continuous, kelly controllers. Roboteq does have the advantage of a USB connection and built in safety features though, which is worth the price in some cases.
How did u make it so silent?!
Enjoy the Silence and Efficiency of Sine - www.roboteq.com/index.php/roboteq-products-and-services/brushless-dc-motor-controllers
I don't think I have to much invested, it was just another robot setup, I had the motors/gearboxes/controllers so I just had to make the frame. I think snowmobile cogs would be great if they fit into the dimensions I wanted, they did not, so I made my own. Really making them myself doesn't cost me much, cept time, the HDPE plastic is a bit pricey, but I used extra I had.
how much will you make me a tank chassis like that with the only electronics the motors?
+Robots4Sale I'm not quite sure what you're asking for, just the chassis or the chassis and electronics and motors? I mean i'm not really selling these, it's really not that spectacularly put together, it has flaws, I wouldn't really want to sell it as it's not a very refined product, in any way. It wasn't really meant to be, it's just a toy really. Plus ontop of that, even if you just asked to have the chassis/frame cutout, HDPE plastic alone was $500 or so, and cutting HDPE (for me at least) is a huge pain and takes forever. You're talking thousands just for the frame not assembled. If I put all the chassis parts into emachineshop dot com (which i've used before and am familiar with their pricing) i'd guess they would charge 5 to 8 thousand to cut the parts out, of course I think they are severely overpriced, a local machine shop might be a better choice, still at minimum a lot. Buy a CNC machine, it'd be cheaper, seriously, then you could cut it yourself.
+klickrr ok well i just need something like a tank tread or 4wd vehicle. i will add my own electronics. i just need a chassis and 4 wheels and 4 motors or a tank tread. thats it. i would like the wheels to be maybe 8 or more inches tall. something that can drive through the woods easily with plenty of ground clearance and power. maybe like the thumber but that may be small
Where'd you get the tracks from?
Traxxas' new rustler
Nice work.
What is the weight of this robot?
Make the track higher then the body, and you can run on both sides.:)
Nice robot
li-ion batts would save you that added 90 pounds. but they are very $$$
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Hello Where can I get Catepillar Wheels, where can I buy Something.?
+Gabriel Chamoun catepillar wheels? Do you mean the tracks? Search ebay for youth snowmobile track, you can find the tracks that way. Or snowblower tracks on ebay.
what does one of these cost to make?
Which motor is this?
How to order or buy pls
hey can you github your android application code ?
What is the app name please?
+Martin Likavec It's just a custom App I wrote, it's extremely specific to my entire setup, it wouldn't be useful to you. There are many apps for bots like this on github, ardurover has some, other people published some stuff, i'd release mine but it's just one piece of the equation, you also need corresponding software and microcontrollers on the bot, it would take me days to just find all the code and upload it and explain how to set it up... and it's really not that great, other open source software is available that is much better, just search a bit on github or ardurover related projects.
Ok.. Thanks you very much.
Can you give me your email? I have some questions.
My Email: chamoungabriel@hotmail.de I need the whole package with electric motors, caterpillar wheels, Thank you
Okey Thank you
Thanks :)
nice
add a camera on it
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