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It's quite different, but most of them you ended up convincing me that this correspondence makes more sense, I put mercury in the indicator but all the others were switched, I see now that the communication gestures were something that did not come to my mind
I think the most interesting difference is Jupiter as middle finger, acting like the biggest and prosperous in the middle of the hand, Supporting all others, I also leveraged the system for one more use, but it's not exactly traditional planetary magic, I use an extra visualized finger on on the opposite side of the thumb Corresponding to Uranus, It is useful to have an "astral finger" for some extra mudra uses
As someone who is very much still learning and a beginner (I'm in the apprentice section on Quareia), I found this absolutely fascinating. I did have almost the exact same impulses for each planet, especially Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn, and the Sun/Moon. I don't feel knowledgeable enough to try this in practice yet, but when I am, it is certainly something I see myself doing.
This is great for anyone with aphantasia that struggles with visualisation and exercises of the imagination. Its quite different to the palmistry method of assigning planets to the hand, but that's not a bad thing at all. You've reasoned a modern approach very well I think. Magical practice is about how will is directed so if this is your way of doing so, I applaud it
Being a Bardonite, I've always associated my fingers with the 5 elements as opposed to the 7 planets. For quick planetary energy access I use the 7 chakras/ Each to their own with Art of course. Always a pleasure to watch your vids mate
Wow! What a fantastic idea! The traditional placements of palmistry planets never made sense to me. Your suggested positions feel more natural and ring truer for me. Thank you!
I can not express how thankful I am to see a serious practitioner actually address the child/parent issues like this. It’s rarely discussed. And I struggle so much in having the space away from my son to practice. I find it’s a bit more difficult with only children, as well.
okay, i'll add another comment. i've seen sooooo many different systems for the fingers. it can get to be a bit much, really. i absolutely love the associations you have come up with and will give it a try.
Hand magick is a topic that has fascinated me since 2018, it’s only been in recent years, but I have seen people talking, and writing about it. I am aware of the usage of mudra in the east, however I am very interested interested in the practical applications of the hands in “high magick” as well as witchcraft. Gald to see that your not only talking about it but putting it into practice. I also had come up with very similar attributions to the fingers. I would love to see a part 2 to this video!!!
Wow, this is very different from other field that puts Mars on the thumb and Jupiter on the index finger. Care to elaborate on this one? Thank you so much.
Hey Denis, don't know if you'll read this but you might find it interesting when it comes to what u explored here. So there is a really good working system for this in Indian traditions, coming from Ayurveda. The 5 fingers are the 5 elements, and one hand is the active (right, which is connected to the pingala, solar channel) and one is receptive (left, which is connected to the ida, lunar channel). In Jyotish (Indian Astrology, which is found in both Vedas and Tantras, its not purely Vedantic), the 5 pancha bhutas (elements) correspond to the 5 elemental planets (the ones which aren't luminaries). Thumb is Fire making it Mars, index is Air making it Saturn, middle is Akasha making it Jupiter, ring is Earth making it Mercury, and little finger is Water making it Venus. It's pretty solid and mudras like agni mudra, phritvi mudra, etc, are based on these finger positions. In my stance the only thing I'd switch is Saturn and Mercury, idk why Parashara (the sage who wrote the most well known text on Indian astrology) attributed Mercury to Earth and Saturn to Air, maybe its because they exalt in those elemental signs, but I personally switch them cuz at the general level Saturn makes way more sense with earth and Mercury with Air. Where Sun and Moon fall in this system would be on either side of the body, and in receptiveness to the hands, I'd say left palm is the Moon, right palm is the Sun, since one is Solar and the other one is Lunar, the pingala and ida. Also this is why its usually said one should use their wand (or sword mudra) in their right hand, as its projective (Solar) and pushes the energy outward, though afaik sometimes the channels are reversed but those a rare cases (what I'd imagine maybe happens with left-handed dominant people, though unsure).
Hi! I’m new to your channel. This was very fun! I love the attributions, especially the pinky/Venus one. There’s also the “pinky swear” that solidifies an oath or agreement made by two people. Feels very Venusian, too. 😊
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I tend to focus more on the four elements then the seven planets. My thumb represents activation, which I will then touch to one or more of the other four fingers.
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@@FoolishFishBooks that is a very good observation. That feels like it would be correct. Passive to draw in dominate to push out. Your videos are so helpful & have helped me so much in my journey. Very much appreciated!!!
i really love this idea because it shows how your psychology is mapped throughout the body, and they do in reality have a direct link to various subconscious components of the mind and self perception. Thanks for talking about this definity interesting
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Wonderful. Your planetary attributions to fingers makes sense to me as well. I paused the video before each of your attributions to think about where I would place them myself and they were mostly the same, with the initial exception of venus being the ring finger, but when I heard your interpretation it made more sense. I also considered saturn being the thumb, as it's the opposing finger without which there is no grip nor tight fist, but overall Jupiter is a good choice because of the qualities you described.
You're system to me feels right; I was able to correctly guess most of these correlations without having quite ever read on the topic. Compared to what old palmistry books say, your system feel 1000% more intuative and meaningful.
Hmmmm. I can add a few bits from Traditional Chinese Medicine (totally freestyle association) The back of the hand is Yang (as it’s external), so, it’s the Sun. It’s the part of the hand that is actually exposed to the sun. The palm of the hand is Yin (since it’s internal), so it represents the Moon. Now, about the channels on the fingers… Left hand: In the Thumb, we have the Lung channel. It represents the Metal element. I think it would fit Mercury. Index finger: Intestine, Saturn. Middle finger: Pericardium, which is Ministerial Fire. I’d link it to Jupiter. Ring finger: Triple burner is Fire. So, Mars. Pinky finger: Heart and intestine. So it’s Mars again. But we already have Mars, so maybe Venus? Or Venus on the ring finger, and Mars on the pinky. Right hand: Middle finger: Here we have Stomach, Kidney and Conception Vessel. I think it’s related to Saturn. Ring finger: Pericardium, Jupiter again. Pinky finger: Stomach and Spleen. Saturn agiam. Haven’t found any diagram showing Thumb and Index finger. That’s completely half-baked. If anyone is curious about it, just tag me and I’ll polish this idea further. A cool benefit would be mixing acupressure to the ritual.
This is a great take. I've been pondering hands recently in terms of elements, principles and other correspondences. Like others in the comments I've not really got the palmistry set up and yours is logical and clear. It was especially pleasing to be shouting 'Saturn!' when you were considering which planet to link an overrunning Mercury to!
Very interesting. I too went through a reordering of the hand.🖐️ Simply: The Thumb - Sun; spirit; [knuckles] North & South nodes. The Fingers -Index; Mars, fire, [knuckles] the three zodiac signs of fire. Middle; Mercury, air, [kn] the three zodiac signs of air. Third; Jupiter, water, [kn] the three zodiac signs of water. Pinky; Venus, earth, [kn] the three zodiac signs of earth. The Palm - Moon, soul; Open is full - Closed is new. The back of the Hand; Saturn, aether, As Saturn covers all rest of the planets and aether connects all elements together. Thus the order is Spirit, Soul, Fire, Air, Water, Earth and Aether.
Place your right hand on the three, the thumb goes on the Moon, index on Mercury, middle on Mars, ring on Jupiter and little on Venus. The Sun in in the palm. Same goes for the elements and their association with the planets: Jupiter - Earth Mars - Fire Mercury - Air Venus - Water Moon - Spirit Tip for beginners, if you put your left hand in that position, facing towards you, you can see how the fingers exactly correspond to the elements on the pentagram.
I use a system yielding from Jyotish(Vedic Astrology) that incorporates many attributes like: Mudra (Pressing the Thumb to another finger’s tip/center/lower part,having the thumb be positioned on top of the same parts of the finger, and having more than one finger be incorporated). Natural Finger Rulerships (Mars-Thumb, Jupiter-Index, Saturn-Middle, Sun-Ring, and Moon, Mercury, Venus - Pinky). Zodiac Sign Rulership of a Segment of a Finger (Each separated into 3 Parts: Index= Tip-Aries, Middle-Taurus,Bottom-Gemini. Middle=Tip-Cancer, Middle-Leo, Bottom-Virgo. Ring=Tip-Libra,Middle-Scorpio,Bottom-Sagittarius.Pinky=Tip-Capricorn,Middle-Aquarius,Bottom-Pisces.) Constellations within the Signs on the Fingers(Which is extremely fine tuned and have not consistently tested it to conclude with it). Using Astrological Placements and matching it to the fingers’ sign placement( Example:Saturn in Libra placement would = Tip of Ring finger to activate Saturn for that specific placement) and also important to note when using that method will activate both signs (if applicable) ruled by that planet and using Traditional Rulerships: Sun- Leo, Moon-Cancer, Mercury-Gemini and Virgo, Venus-Taurus and Libra, Mars-Aries and Scorpio, Jupiter-Sagittarius and Pisces, Saturn-Capricorn and Aquarius. Lastly incorporating wearing rings with a specific stone/crystal,banding,stone/crystal cut,carat, and weight of the entire piece; This requires precision of an astrologer with expertise in advising this method alongside an expert craftsman to ensure the piece satisfies all the requirements. I personally can say, with also my own feedback of advising other people to incorporate these methods, these MOST DEFINITELY cause a response from these techniques, but having the adaption of intention coincide with these techniques is VITAL.
Thank you Denis ! I must be learning because I got the same Planet just before you said the name 2 or 3 times, this is great for me as a novice. Very interesting concept perfectly explained, I really enjoyed this, and yes, your suggestions make perfect sense to me anyway.
There is an aspect of processing the energy through your body which can greatly boost ritual actions. But to do all the forms and movements you have to be pretty athletic and have good sense of rhythm. I am not a ceremonial magician. And use of movement allowed me to enter in to more advanced forms of ritual practice. Where as previously, everything was based on technique, concentration and effectiveness of small techniques. It still is, but expending the practice in that way allowed to me to explore aspects that go outside the base necessities for the effect.
It is interesting, the ring finger is the only digit that has two main nerves contained inside it. And if you study field electricity and the coil, it makes sense that the ring would have an influence on bridging the two nerve fields.
All fingers have links to all the planets, its just that some systems believe that a certain finger may have more dominant control over that planet. Varies from person to person. Thats why none of the systems will agree. Also check out jason reads's chinese magic. It has a finger technique in it called activating the sword finger(mudra), the big dipper sword. its very potent, though subtle.
Excellent system and explanations. First I thought of the classic Sailor Moon mudra. Mercury and Venus, Jupiter off to the side, star crossed lovers, checks out. Then I thought of the itsy bitsy spider... It's a ritual taught to children, perhaps even now and it's meaning through this new lens... pretty dire. Stay sage out there o777
As someone with asd traditional cerimonial and ritual magic does not work for me. Remembering magic exists, and i can do it is hard. While you might view this as a cheat or something to use while out and about. To me, this is a lot more. I feel a stronger connection to whatever aspect of divinity with this than using my cup or wand. It feels more personal and connected. Thank you, Mr. FoolishFish
Hi @Mrgamer! Thank you so much for your thoughtful and thought-provoking comment, I'm so glad this has been helpful to you! I hope that my Mind-palace series might be of similar use to you 🙏 All my very best wishes!
Donald Tysons book is really great. It ads to the planets the elements and even more good ideas to use your body. I do magic of the empty hand since I do magic. My body in the 3d room is the temple. I created my own system with my body, though. I like your fingersystem, it sounds allright to me. Ps: Besides Donald Tyson the handreading folks did put the ülanets on the hands, too.
There's a sign called the sword hand. You extend your index and middle finger (like with finger guns), and make a circle with the pad of your thumb n top of the nail of your ring finger, and your little finger following the curve of your ring finger. If you do it with both hands you should be able to sheathe one in the other. Do with that information what you will.
Denis!! Very, very clever the take on planetary hand correspondences you’ve showed us, my friend! Thanks for that! And it's good what works for each of us, of course. However, I would very much like to see a comparative video showing the system of traditional correspondences and the arguments that show what they are based on. What about it?
Curiosity/ignorant question incoming! Why would one tailor and create a unique system of magic rather than follow a tradition? I can think of reasons why you'd join a tradition but not so much why you would go off in the dark and make your own? Anyway, cool vid, thank you.
For the same reason you might learn to tailor your own clothes when you have spent your life appreciating clothes made by big clothes stores, but never quite find clothes that fit.
I think that's what a "real" (I usually try to avoid this word) magician is about; to be able creating something on your own rather than only following systems who were created by magicians before you. Sure you can do that 100% and maybe it would be even safer most of the time than searching in the dark (aka inside you) but also with the cost of probably limiting your own potential. I like to think magic here is similar to language; it's alive, it's constantly changing. If not then it wouldn't be used for long and some day simply die out (if you like to believe practical magic itself was invented by us humans in the first place) edit: or maybe like any other form of science. Imagine we would still only use the exact same understanding of physics hundreds of years ago. No way right?
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You mentioned a palace. In a dream of mine I saw a palace it was an old gray vanish circular tall worn building with many levels and I saw 3 entities with tall ears and red capes or they were antlers. What is that about? Coming from 0 experience
somewhere i've read that the ring finger is associated with the Sun, becase it was associated with the heart; symbolically the ring can mean that your heart is taken, but i've also read somewhere that there's a vein connecting the ring finger to the heart - a lot of the correspondences i found about the hands are very cultural (even with mudras and Indian dancing/acting), but the ring finger seems to be mostly associated with the Sun, i think in Tibetan Medicine too, although i'm not sure which book has this kind of info... or maybe it was Thai Medicine or Reusi Dat Ton idk
also, a disclaimer: in medieval or ancient texts the heart isn't really about the physical heart or 'seat of emotions', but the 'seat of the soul', which in a modern context would be the mind or consciousness
From time to time i check out your channel. Sometimes hard to see how poor german publishing is. But ... since a few months i work on a astrological based system for inner magic. It evolves slowly and although its internal i had a lot of signs in the day ... Before that i was very dream based. and one evening orion was suddenly in front of my window as never like before ore after, never had a clue I can see him. I also have a two handed system to represent the planets (mercury is index too) --- i like your idea because it is in the same area. But i integrated gaia because i live on and from her. But the system works, the other seven seem to be okay.
I am a hand gesture kind of guy and loved kinesic magic from Donald since then all the sections of my fingers are Kabbalah letters and planets etc. even a working pyramid I found here in south Florida. To me that’s real magic. Everything else ritualistically isn’t really for me. Maybe because I’m lazy.
The pinky as grip strength? The only application I can think of where that's the case is shooting a hand gun, and to a lesser extent, sword grip only needs the ring and pinky.
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Traditionally, the middle finger is associated with Saturn. So when you flip someone off, you are placing a saturnine curse upon them.
Ohh how interesting
Yep
It's also the third finger which can attribute to the third holy sephirah binah on the qabalistic tree of life.
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@@natehardy3311 he did mention it over a decade ago, yes.
The finger associations with the planets makes so much sense. Makes me reconsider palmistry.
Love how your mind works. It makes complete sense and feels very applicable
Ah, I'm glad it resonates! 😄
Palmistry and other practices do have different planets associated with each finger, but I appreciate the thought you've put into this.
I did just that a few days ago, I made my own correlations of the planets and elements with my fingers, It's really very useful
Ah cool! Did you come up with a similar correspondence or was it quite different?
It's quite different, but most of them you ended up convincing me that this correspondence makes more sense, I put mercury in the indicator but all the others were switched, I see now that the communication gestures were something that did not come to my mind
I think the most interesting difference is Jupiter as middle finger, acting like the biggest and prosperous in the middle of the hand, Supporting all others, I also leveraged the system for one more use, but it's not exactly traditional planetary magic, I use an extra visualized finger on on the opposite side of the thumb Corresponding to Uranus, It is useful to have an "astral finger" for some extra mudra uses
@@nebula_Mage I love the idea of an 'extra' astral finger! 😄
As someone who is very much still learning and a beginner (I'm in the apprentice section on Quareia), I found this absolutely fascinating. I did have almost the exact same impulses for each planet, especially Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn, and the Sun/Moon. I don't feel knowledgeable enough to try this in practice yet, but when I am, it is certainly something I see myself doing.
This is great for anyone with aphantasia that struggles with visualisation and exercises of the imagination. Its quite different to the palmistry method of assigning planets to the hand, but that's not a bad thing at all. You've reasoned a modern approach very well I think. Magical practice is about how will is directed so if this is your way of doing so, I applaud it
Thank you for your kind words! Yes! People suffering from aphantasia can certainly use this!
Being a Bardonite, I've always associated my fingers with the 5 elements as opposed to the 7 planets. For quick planetary energy access I use the 7 chakras/ Each to their own with Art of course. Always a pleasure to watch your vids mate
Wow! What a fantastic idea! The traditional placements of palmistry planets never made sense to me. Your suggested positions feel more natural and ring truer for me. Thank you!
I can not express how thankful I am to see a serious practitioner actually address the child/parent issues like this. It’s rarely discussed. And I struggle so much in having the space away from my son to practice. I find it’s a bit more difficult with only children, as well.
For sure! Yeah, we have to make it work somehow 😅
I second that! As a mom I really appreciate this. Along with his meditation guide videos. Those have been great and practical help for me.
okay, i'll add another comment. i've seen sooooo many different systems for the fingers. it can get to be a bit much, really. i absolutely love the associations you have come up with and will give it a try.
The Tyson book is excellent, and definitely in line with what you've come up with on your own. Definitely check it out when you get a chance!
Yes I've been quite curious about that one!
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Hand magick is a topic that has fascinated me since 2018, it’s only been in recent years, but I have seen people talking, and writing about it. I am aware of the usage of mudra in the east, however I am very interested interested in the practical applications of the hands in “high magick” as well as witchcraft. Gald to see that your not only talking about it but putting it into practice. I also had come up with very similar attributions to the fingers. I would love to see a part 2 to this video!!!
That's dope! I go thumb-Jupiter, index-Mars, middle-Saturn, ring-Venus, pinky-Mercury, open palm-Sun, closed fist-moon
Wow, this is very different from other field that puts Mars on the thumb and Jupiter on the index finger. Care to elaborate on this one? Thank you so much.
Thanks for another inspiring message. I love how natural and clear you can present your line of thought. 😊
Thank you so much for the encouraging comment! I really appreciate it 😄 Icm really glad you like the video!
@@FoolishFishBooks I remembered that people in love often holding pinkies when walking together....love ... Venus?
@@TheWangtube yes, that works!
Hey Denis, don't know if you'll read this but you might find it interesting when it comes to what u explored here. So there is a really good working system for this in Indian traditions, coming from Ayurveda. The 5 fingers are the 5 elements, and one hand is the active (right, which is connected to the pingala, solar channel) and one is receptive (left, which is connected to the ida, lunar channel). In Jyotish (Indian Astrology, which is found in both Vedas and Tantras, its not purely Vedantic), the 5 pancha bhutas (elements) correspond to the 5 elemental planets (the ones which aren't luminaries).
Thumb is Fire making it Mars, index is Air making it Saturn, middle is Akasha making it Jupiter, ring is Earth making it Mercury, and little finger is Water making it Venus. It's pretty solid and mudras like agni mudra, phritvi mudra, etc, are based on these finger positions. In my stance the only thing I'd switch is Saturn and Mercury, idk why Parashara (the sage who wrote the most well known text on Indian astrology) attributed Mercury to Earth and Saturn to Air, maybe its because they exalt in those elemental signs, but I personally switch them cuz at the general level Saturn makes way more sense with earth and Mercury with Air.
Where Sun and Moon fall in this system would be on either side of the body, and in receptiveness to the hands, I'd say left palm is the Moon, right palm is the Sun, since one is Solar and the other one is Lunar, the pingala and ida. Also this is why its usually said one should use their wand (or sword mudra) in their right hand, as its projective (Solar) and pushes the energy outward, though afaik sometimes the channels are reversed but those a rare cases (what I'd imagine maybe happens with left-handed dominant people, though unsure).
Oh wow! That's very cool! Thank you for sharing, I was very interested to read how close my system is to this! 🙏
Hi! I’m new to your channel. This was very fun! I love the attributions, especially the pinky/Venus one. There’s also the “pinky swear” that solidifies an oath or agreement made by two people. Feels very Venusian, too. 😊
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I tend to focus more on the four elements then the seven planets. My thumb represents activation, which I will then touch to one or more of the other four fingers.
I must say you have improved greatly with the editing of the video. Keep up the good work 👍
Thank you Enrique, trying to step up my game :) It's a lot more work (you saw how late this video was!) but I hope it's helps get the videos to more people who might appreciate them :)
Best wishes to you!
Another inspiring video, Denis! And a lot of fun to watch, thank you!
😄🙏 I had fun making it! Thank you for the encouragement! 😄
Love this. Fantastic approach to portable ceremony 👏
Simply Brilliant!
😄🙏 ah! You're very kind, joshs7178! Thank you for the kind words and for the encouragement 😄
The 7 chakra's are also represented on the hand. That is something I have been working with. Left draws in right goes out
Yes! I wonder if it's really left-right, or rather dominant-passive...
@@FoolishFishBooks that is a very good observation. That feels like it would be correct. Passive to draw in dominate to push out. Your videos are so helpful & have helped me so much in my journey. Very much appreciated!!!
i really love this idea because it shows how your psychology is mapped throughout the body, and they do in reality have a direct link to various subconscious components of the mind and self perception. Thanks for talking about this definity interesting
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and earlier today, i got my 2 volumes of Grimoire Encyclopaedia
Nice! I'll be doing an overview today 😊
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That was great! I love how you make it personal and how we "feel" what is right for us
Handy trick, I like that! 🖐✨️
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Yes!! Completely agree with your insigth, thanks for sharing really. Much love to you and all the community here.
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Wonderful. Your planetary attributions to fingers makes sense to me as well. I paused the video before each of your attributions to think about where I would place them myself and they were mostly the same, with the initial exception of venus being the ring finger, but when I heard your interpretation it made more sense. I also considered saturn being the thumb, as it's the opposing finger without which there is no grip nor tight fist, but overall Jupiter is a good choice because of the qualities you described.
What is crazy is that I just thought about this topic, and when I picked up my phone to look it up, I saw the notification for this video.
That is very cool 😄
You're system to me feels right; I was able to correctly guess most of these correlations without having quite ever read on the topic. Compared to what old palmistry books say, your system feel 1000% more intuative and meaningful.
Ah, I'm glad you agree! 😄🙏🙌
Hmmmm. I can add a few bits from Traditional Chinese Medicine (totally freestyle association)
The back of the hand is Yang (as it’s external), so, it’s the Sun. It’s the part of the hand that is actually exposed to the sun.
The palm of the hand is Yin (since it’s internal), so it represents the Moon.
Now, about the channels on the fingers…
Left hand:
In the Thumb, we have the Lung channel. It represents the Metal element. I think it would fit Mercury.
Index finger: Intestine, Saturn.
Middle finger: Pericardium, which is Ministerial Fire. I’d link it to Jupiter.
Ring finger: Triple burner is Fire. So, Mars.
Pinky finger: Heart and intestine. So it’s Mars again. But we already have Mars, so maybe Venus? Or Venus on the ring finger, and Mars on the pinky.
Right hand:
Middle finger: Here we have Stomach, Kidney and Conception Vessel. I think it’s related to Saturn.
Ring finger: Pericardium, Jupiter again.
Pinky finger: Stomach and Spleen. Saturn agiam.
Haven’t found any diagram showing Thumb and Index finger.
That’s completely half-baked. If anyone is curious about it, just tag me and I’ll polish this idea further.
A cool benefit would be mixing acupressure to the ritual.
So clever!
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This is a great take. I've been pondering hands recently in terms of elements, principles and other correspondences. Like others in the comments I've not really got the palmistry set up and yours is logical and clear. It was especially pleasing to be shouting 'Saturn!' when you were considering which planet to link an overrunning Mercury to!
Excellent video, thanks 🙏❤
I really appreciate the thinking you applied to your attributions, very insightful :)
EXCELLENT VIDEO ON HAND MAGICK-PERFECT FOR ALL KINDS OF MAGICK
Fabulous!
Very interesting. I too went through a reordering of the hand.🖐️ Simply: The Thumb - Sun; spirit; [knuckles] North & South nodes. The Fingers -Index; Mars, fire, [knuckles] the three zodiac signs of fire. Middle; Mercury, air, [kn] the three zodiac signs of air. Third; Jupiter, water, [kn] the three zodiac signs of water. Pinky; Venus, earth, [kn] the three zodiac signs of earth. The Palm - Moon, soul; Open is full - Closed is new. The back of the Hand; Saturn, aether, As Saturn covers all rest of the planets and aether connects all elements together. Thus the order is Spirit, Soul, Fire, Air, Water, Earth and Aether.
Beautiful! I like your reasoning (qabalistic order of the elements) and the versatility of having the zodiac signs on the knuckles! 👌
I freaking love your mind and how it worked through each finger. Outside the box and still so logical.
😄 so glad you like it!
Place your right hand on the three, the thumb goes on the Moon, index on Mercury, middle on Mars, ring on Jupiter and little on Venus. The Sun in in the palm. Same goes for the elements and their association with the planets:
Jupiter - Earth
Mars - Fire
Mercury - Air
Venus - Water
Moon - Spirit
Tip for beginners, if you put your left hand in that position, facing towards you, you can see how the fingers exactly correspond to the elements on the pentagram.
I use a system yielding from Jyotish(Vedic Astrology) that incorporates many attributes like: Mudra (Pressing the Thumb to another finger’s tip/center/lower part,having the thumb be positioned on top of the same parts of the finger, and having more than one finger be incorporated).
Natural Finger Rulerships (Mars-Thumb, Jupiter-Index, Saturn-Middle, Sun-Ring, and Moon, Mercury, Venus - Pinky).
Zodiac Sign Rulership of a Segment of a Finger (Each separated into 3 Parts: Index= Tip-Aries, Middle-Taurus,Bottom-Gemini. Middle=Tip-Cancer, Middle-Leo, Bottom-Virgo. Ring=Tip-Libra,Middle-Scorpio,Bottom-Sagittarius.Pinky=Tip-Capricorn,Middle-Aquarius,Bottom-Pisces.)
Constellations within the Signs on the Fingers(Which is extremely fine tuned and have not consistently tested it to conclude with it).
Using Astrological Placements and matching it to the fingers’ sign placement( Example:Saturn in Libra placement would = Tip of Ring finger to activate Saturn for that specific placement) and also important to note when using that method will activate both signs (if applicable) ruled by that planet and using Traditional Rulerships: Sun- Leo, Moon-Cancer, Mercury-Gemini and Virgo, Venus-Taurus and Libra, Mars-Aries and Scorpio, Jupiter-Sagittarius and Pisces, Saturn-Capricorn and Aquarius.
Lastly incorporating wearing rings with a specific stone/crystal,banding,stone/crystal cut,carat, and weight of the entire piece; This requires precision of an astrologer with expertise in advising this method alongside an expert craftsman to ensure the piece satisfies all the requirements.
I personally can say, with also my own feedback of advising other people to incorporate these methods, these MOST DEFINITELY cause a response from these techniques, but having the adaption of intention coincide with these techniques is VITAL.
Thank you Denis ! I must be learning because I got the same Planet just before you said the name 2 or 3 times, this is great for me as a novice. Very interesting concept perfectly explained, I really enjoyed this, and yes, your suggestions make perfect sense to me anyway.
Ah, that's great! 😄 Nice to know the order is at least a little intuitive, and congratulations on your own clearly great progress! 🥳🙏
@@FoolishFishBooks Thank you again Denis for this wonderful reply, greatly appreciated. 🙏🙏
Interesting. For what it's worth my first thought when it came to the moon was to create a shape with my hand to make it look like a crescent.
When I cross my wrists to bring the backs of both my hands together, I do so with curved fingers representing the crescent and waning moons 😄🌒🌘
There is an aspect of processing the energy through your body which can greatly boost ritual actions. But to do all the forms and movements you have to be pretty athletic and have good sense of rhythm.
I am not a ceremonial magician. And use of movement allowed me to enter in to more advanced forms of ritual practice. Where as previously, everything was based on technique, concentration and effectiveness of small techniques.
It still is, but expending the practice in that way allowed to me to explore aspects that go outside the base necessities for the effect.
I know you just posted this, but I need to get this written down. Great Stuff!
😄🙏 I'm away from home (again!) But I'll post the image from the thumbnail to the discord chat when I get back, if you like!
Solid reasoning
The little finger is Venusian also bc of the pinky promise
It is interesting, the ring finger is the only digit that has two main nerves contained inside it. And if you study field electricity and the coil, it makes sense that the ring would have an influence on bridging the two nerve fields.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge man. Plus, ur easy on the eyes
😄🙏 thank you for your kind words!
Thank you...They Left Me No Choice...
All fingers have links to all the planets, its just that some systems believe that a certain finger may have more dominant control over that planet. Varies from person to person. Thats why none of the systems will agree.
Also check out jason reads's chinese magic. It has a finger technique in it called activating the sword finger(mudra), the big dipper sword. its very potent, though subtle.
Thanks for the recommendation!!
Excellent system and explanations. First I thought of the classic Sailor Moon mudra. Mercury and Venus, Jupiter off to the side, star crossed lovers, checks out. Then I thought of the itsy bitsy spider... It's a ritual taught to children, perhaps even now and it's meaning through this new lens... pretty dire. Stay sage out there o777
As someone with asd traditional cerimonial and ritual magic does not work for me. Remembering magic exists, and i can do it is hard. While you might view this as a cheat or something to use while out and about. To me, this is a lot more. I feel a stronger connection to whatever aspect of divinity with this than using my cup or wand. It feels more personal and connected. Thank you, Mr. FoolishFish
Hi @Mrgamer! Thank you so much for your thoughtful and thought-provoking comment, I'm so glad this has been helpful to you! I hope that my Mind-palace series might be of similar use to you 🙏 All my very best wishes!
This was excellent video thank you for sharing this valuable knowledge!
Thank you Janet! 😄🙏
Fantastic videos 🙏🏼 A video regarding the life after death please 🙏🏼🌟🙏🏼
Huh. Really puts Lightin' Hopkins's Mojo Hand in a new light.
Genius, I agree with this entire set up
😄 Thank you for the validation! I'm so glad it resonates!🙏
Donald Tysons book is really great. It ads to the planets the elements and even more good ideas to use your body.
I do magic of the empty hand since I do magic. My body in the 3d room is the temple.
I created my own system with my body, though.
I like your fingersystem, it sounds allright to me.
Ps:
Besides Donald Tyson the handreading folks did put the ülanets on the hands, too.
Portable magick. This is why i have playing cards on me at all times.
There's a sign called the sword hand. You extend your index and middle finger (like with finger guns), and make a circle with the pad of your thumb n top of the nail of your ring finger, and your little finger following the curve of your ring finger. If you do it with both hands you should be able to sheathe one in the other. Do with that information what you will.
Thank you, King
The finger magic makes me think of the Kuji Kiri.
@@Maximex123 Great minds think alike 😃
Denis!! Very, very clever the take on planetary hand correspondences you’ve showed us, my friend! Thanks for that!
And it's good what works for each of us, of course.
However, I would very much like to see a comparative video showing the system of traditional correspondences and the arguments that show what they are based on. What about it?
Yes, I agree, that would be very interesting... If only I could find the reasoning for the (various) other correspondences!
I use elements instead of planets.
For example when out and about I can easily calm anxiety by shunting fire to akash, or combining water with earth.
I didn’t recieve notifications about this video. Strange…… any way great video Denis, thank you
Hmm... That's odd, the post's settings were accurate... 😣 I glad you found it in the end!
Thanks for this!
Please do a tutorial on the heptagram ritual!!! Step by step like you did for the lbrp!!!
Great video
Thank you ✨️
That was fantastic and fascinating.
Do you not use Pluto in planetary magic?
I use the classical planets only 😊 but nothing stops you! 😄
Curiosity/ignorant question incoming! Why would one tailor and create a unique system of magic rather than follow a tradition? I can think of reasons why you'd join a tradition but not so much why you would go off in the dark and make your own? Anyway, cool vid, thank you.
For the same reason you might learn to tailor your own clothes when you have spent your life appreciating clothes made by big clothes stores, but never quite find clothes that fit.
I think that's what a "real" (I usually try to avoid this word) magician is about; to be able creating something on your own rather than only following systems who were created by magicians before you. Sure you can do that 100% and maybe it would be even safer most of the time than searching in the dark (aka inside you) but also with the cost of probably limiting your own potential. I like to think magic here is similar to language; it's alive, it's constantly changing. If not then it wouldn't be used for long and some day simply die out (if you like to believe practical magic itself was invented by us humans in the first place)
edit: or maybe like any other form of science. Imagine we would still only use the exact same understanding of physics hundreds of years ago. No way right?
I’ve been working with Kinesic Magic, it’s amazing. Quick question, is there any benefit to joining UA-cam membership over Patreon or visa versa?
Thank you for the thoughtful question! 😄 The fees at Patreon are significantly smaller than those on YT (8% vs. 30%), so Patreon is definitely better for me, but you don't get a badge next to your username in the comments, so it's less attractive for you. On the other hand, Patreon members receive an email when there's exclusive content, whereas UA-cam Members have to get lucky and see it in their feed. I hope that helps! 🙏
In parts of asia, the little finger means promise more then the ring finger does.
Oh nice! Yes, the 'pinky swear' 🤙
Foolish Fish, look into Jonny Fincham and Brent Burning.
oops. johnny* and bruning*
Thanks!
Thank you so much, George! 😄🙏 Best wishes to you!
That's great!
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Venus left pinky
I have tattooed hand this way.
Pinky is mercury, pinky promise, mercury rules over contracts.
INSPIRED!
😄🙏 thank you @D! Glad you liked it!
You mentioned a palace. In a dream of mine I saw a palace it was an old gray vanish circular tall worn building with many levels and I saw 3 entities with tall ears and red capes or they were antlers. What is that about? Coming from 0 experience
somewhere i've read that the ring finger is associated with the Sun, becase it was associated with the heart; symbolically the ring can mean that your heart is taken, but i've also read somewhere that there's a vein connecting the ring finger to the heart - a lot of the correspondences i found about the hands are very cultural (even with mudras and Indian dancing/acting), but the ring finger seems to be mostly associated with the Sun, i think in Tibetan Medicine too, although i'm not sure which book has this kind of info... or maybe it was Thai Medicine or Reusi Dat Ton idk
also, a disclaimer: in medieval or ancient texts the heart isn't really about the physical heart or 'seat of emotions', but the 'seat of the soul', which in a modern context would be the mind or consciousness
You begin to foster a relationship with them that way?
When you make the shape of a gun with your middle, index, and thump. Saturn, lead, Jupiter direction and expansion, Mars compustion, fire, ignition.
From time to time i check out your channel. Sometimes hard to see how poor german publishing is. But ... since a few months i work on a astrological based system for inner magic. It evolves slowly and although its internal i had a lot of signs in the day ... Before that i was very dream based. and one evening orion was suddenly in front of my window as never like before ore after, never had a clue I can see him. I also have a two handed system to represent the planets (mercury is index too) --- i like your idea because it is in the same area. But i integrated gaia because i live on and from her. But the system works, the other seven seem to be okay.
I am a hand gesture kind of guy and loved kinesic magic from Donald since then all the sections of my fingers are Kabbalah letters and planets etc. even a working pyramid I found here in south Florida. To me that’s real magic. Everything else ritualistically isn’t really for me. Maybe because I’m lazy.
I wonder can i send you a list of my book collection so far? I don't have much due to my financial situation but what i do have is great.
Well I'm still wearing my onyx on the middle lol for now
The pinky as grip strength? The only application I can think of where that's the case is shooting a hand gun, and to a lesser extent, sword grip only needs the ring and pinky.
Tell me you've never lifted weights without telling me.
@@michaelkrull3331 I only need my thumb and palm for my dumbbell and that's 30 lbs.
You mentioned ADHD, do you have recommendations for people with ADHD that have issues with ceremonial magick?
Yes, don't wait until you 'have learned it all' before getting started. Other than that, it probably depends which specific issues you're having.
hmm, what could be representative of Uranus? =/
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Middle finger. Uranus rules aquarius which is also co ruled by Saturn. Uranus is freedom and rebellion.
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May I ask, why do you not practice with your child in the room? Thank you 😊
I don't feel as free to converse when anyone else is listening.