I don’t even see how this was even close, Hadi clearly won today, something would have to drastically change tomorrow for Samson to have a chance, I would like to have seen John out there next to Hadi and Rafael against Samson
Nah, Samson wins by a landslide. The problem with Samson is alot of the light effects Hadi benefits from is due skin color, so much of the details are highlighted much more if you can clearly see them, which is an unfair comparison for someone with a darker complexion, not sure how they resolve that. Dont think using stronger lighting changes it either, you almost need a separate category for darker shades.
If Hadi fails to get awarded for the package he brought with the win, then I will have lost all faith in the integrity of the Arnold. He looks AMAZING. All respect to Sampson. He is the clear 2nd and no one can come close to him from 3rd place on down. But this is a Hadi win for sure.
Exactly! I don't think Arnold will have the nerve to rig it that bad because it's not close at all, if Arnold did rig it he would turn his show into a farce.
For the record I have Hadi winning as well, but there is a major problem that Tyler Manion pointed out at the O that Hadi has not fixed. He has one quad that is drastically bigger than the other. That throws off his symmetry and balance. That is a major factor in bodybuilding. Again, I have Hadi winning, but we have to remember what the judges said previously.
Hadi should take this relatively handedly. Samsons in second solidly but I’m impressed with Rafael, he’s absolutely added some size and still has great aesthetics
Raf's conditioning isn't quite as good as at the 2022 Olympia but I'll be damned if that added 15 lbs isn't in all the right places. Tremendous off season results. I'm really looking forward to seeing him win a show and tighten up for the O
Heart warming for sure! I just wish he adjusted his poses to hide his waist a bit more, like Arnold did, because i think it costs him when standing to guys like Chris or Ramon
not only Hadi is more conditioned (because he's Hadi) but also he is relativelly bigger than Samson, of course Samson has more absolute size but if you judge their muscle size relative to their height Hadi looks unconfortably big here..
@@MaxSoininen Hadi's waist is a touch wide, but let's be clear: when you're talking about the top 5 in the world, you're not talking about a "reasonable" standard. It's an _un-reasonable_ standard, and it should be! But - and this is key - Hadi's _detail_ through the torso is the more important metric here, and Samson looks like an unformed blob against Hadi in this regard. Milos MUST adjust Samson's protocols and training going forward to have him put MUCH more work in on his abdominal detail. Samson doesn't need to get bigger on the scale, he needs to get more detailed front to back, and just keep grinding away on his back development. Hadi all day and twice on Saturday here 😉- this is a no-brainer win for him unless the judges have lost their minds.
Conditioning overall not really close either.. but this is bodybuilding so unless you are like prime Coleman nothing is guaranteed. This is not even taking to account the politics involved
And a whole separate post for Rafael _freaking BRANDAO!!!_ Damn. Look at him next to James: that says it all. Give him another year to consolidate the size gains and regain his old level of conditioning at this new level of development, and he's absolutely a top-6 Olympian.
I had no clue why you guys say Samson had more shape than Hadi, If it's true then it's not by any large margin. Hadi's waste is tighter With a better vacuum and a better set of abs.
@@hartattack0725 Hadi's 100% winning here. But let's not be crazy: John de la Rosa does not have the shape to compare with Samson. Just no chance. Sorry.
Are you serious? If you have a set of eyes and a working knowledge of this sport (which you clearly don't) then you will understand the fundamentals of shape. Choopan is a triumph of condition with a massive blocky physique that will soon be trounced by the arrival of genetic superiors! A conditioned Douda is the end of Choopan, plain and simple.
Man Hadi is even pulling vacuums like it is nothing now. So hes got the crazy abs flex AND the vacuum pose. Dereks going to be pushed to the limit next mr o.
it shows Hadi can still comeback for that Mr.O title he look tight n well balance for a guy that is known as being blocky he even display better x frame than Samson. i said it 3 weeks ago Samson need to watch his midsection and tonight it shows that midsection hurt him
@@ViktorM1 You got that right - and this is coming from a guy who is all in favour of shape and flow being prioritized in the criteria. But Hadi's _detail_ and abdominal control is outstanding. If he can keep bringing his back hardness and separation up, he should be undeniable at the O. That might be a lot to ask for though. Unfortunately, both the 212 and Open 2023 Olympia decisions make it clear that they've gone a little too far in the other direction in rewarding shape right now. Though I can understand penalizing Clarida for the extent to which he blew out his abdomen, that was _absolutely_ not the case with Hadi. Hadi is the rightful 2023 Mr. Olympia, and he looks like he's ready to pull a Jay Cutler in 2024.
Besides conditioning, Samson's midsection control seems to be a weakpoint. It's not a horrid bubble gut, but it does seem to spill over. It's losing him points on side poses he'd potentially have Hadi beat on.
I was there tonight. Samson has the most insane stage presence. He walked out on stage and it was like all eyes were on him. A beast walking on stage. But in the poses, even if they were close from the front, the back was where Hadi really impressed me. I think Hadi has it for sure.
Hadi just always comes in razor sharp it's crazy.
Yes, man. So much detail and lines.
I agree 💯 persent let's go Hadi choopan Persian 🐺❤️ bro 🦁👑
@@RPE-Official Go watch classic physique then, waist connoisseur 😂
Synthol doesn't affect Hadi's conditioning too!
Yet he has no striations in the shoulders...weird no? Full of synthol!
I don’t even see how this was even close, Hadi clearly won today, something would have to drastically change tomorrow for Samson to have a chance, I would like to have seen John out there next to Hadi and Rafael against Samson
I'd prefer Samson over Hadi tbh. I really like his Physique Line
Rafael would've looked great next to Samson's gut
@@Nachbardesvertrauens That makes no sense.
@@Nachbardesvertrauens cope
@@Stan_the_Belgian“cope“ nga you 12?
Hadi actually looks absolutely insane I'm not a Hadi fan but yo Hadi is insaneeee
Dude, same! Insane condition..
Hadi is simply undeniable. He just absolutely brings it every time.
Nah, Samson wins by a landslide. The problem with Samson is alot of the light effects Hadi benefits from is due skin color, so much of the details are highlighted much more if you can clearly see them, which is an unfair comparison for someone with a darker complexion, not sure how they resolve that.
Dont think using stronger lighting changes it either, you almost need a separate category for darker shades.
He almost looks as good as Samson. Gotta give him his props.
@@scotchbarrel4429 this man just casually tried to make segregation happen again 😭
Hadi’s waist looks even smaller. That v-taper in the front double and lat spread is much improved
Wesley and Hadi. So happy for Wesley and Hadi will walk to this championship tomorrow.. it’s not close
You called it perfect, Nick! I'm a Samson fan, but Hadi killed!
Hadi's got this
Same people say at the time of Olympia but results were different
@@um3035 he is better here and I think he might edge out Samson
Today yes
@@um3035 He is not fighting against Derek now. Samson honestly was clear 3rd place at the O. Samson never brings conditioning
Hadi's got synthol shoulders
That vacuum was awesome on hadi!!!
Overwhelming is a good description for Hadi right now. I saw the thumbnail and was like damn, he's friggin yoked
Fr!
Hadi brought those fuller legs with that trademark conditionin. Nailed it imo
If Hadi fails to get awarded for the package he brought with the win, then I will have lost all faith in the integrity of the Arnold. He looks AMAZING. All respect to Sampson. He is the clear 2nd and no one can come close to him from 3rd place on down. But this is a Hadi win for sure.
Exactly! I don't think Arnold will have the nerve to rig it that bad because it's not close at all, if Arnold did rig it he would turn his show into a farce.
If he doesn't win this is the last bodybuilding show I will ever watch again
This is a two days show. Anything is possible. Good, go watch ice skating
@@uno50G No pal Hadi should not lose this show even if Samson improves .So go get your eyes tested because there is no way he should beat Hadi
For the record I have Hadi winning as well, but there is a major problem that Tyler Manion pointed out at the O that Hadi has not fixed. He has one quad that is drastically bigger than the other. That throws off his symmetry and balance. That is a major factor in bodybuilding. Again, I have Hadi winning, but we have to remember what the judges said previously.
Hadi should take this relatively handedly. Samsons in second solidly but I’m impressed with Rafael, he’s absolutely added some size and still has great aesthetics
Raf's conditioning isn't quite as good as at the 2022 Olympia but I'll be damned if that added 15 lbs isn't in all the right places. Tremendous off season results. I'm really looking forward to seeing him win a show and tighten up for the O
Wesley well deserved champ
Ramon boutta go on demon time till the Olympia
@peanut7549 good, he's been coasting on his genetics when he should be building a back
Breon and Ramon Got Robbed lmao
Heart warming for sure! I just wish he adjusted his poses to hide his waist a bit more, like Arnold did, because i think it costs him when standing to guys like Chris or Ramon
not only Hadi is more conditioned (because he's Hadi) but also he is relativelly bigger than Samson, of course Samson has more absolute size but if you judge their muscle size relative to their height Hadi looks unconfortably big here..
@TobiPhree if only he had a tiny waist...
@@valerioscharer4676 his waist is not big by any reasonable standard. Im so tired of all of this waist talk.
@@MaxSoininen Hadi's waist is a touch wide, but let's be clear: when you're talking about the top 5 in the world, you're not talking about a "reasonable" standard. It's an _un-reasonable_ standard, and it should be!
But - and this is key - Hadi's _detail_ through the torso is the more important metric here, and Samson looks like an unformed blob against Hadi in this regard. Milos MUST adjust Samson's protocols and training going forward to have him put MUCH more work in on his abdominal detail. Samson doesn't need to get bigger on the scale, he needs to get more detailed front to back, and just keep grinding away on his back development.
Hadi all day and twice on Saturday here 😉- this is a no-brainer win for him unless the judges have lost their minds.
@@MaxSoininen it's not big at all but he looks a bit stompy. The v taper is good in some poses but others not so much
@valerioscharer4676 his waist looks great in most shots
Antoine doesn't even look like he took a big break, impressive size.
WOW!!!!! Sampson and Hadi are way above the rest, but HADI!!!!! Damn he is blowing away Sampson.
Who's Sampson?
@@matmorrowlol 😂
No he ain’t ffs 🤦♂️
Bro, just accept the truth @roccostiff2444
Hadi looks sharper than a box of razor blades 😳
😂😂
😂😂😂😂
@alexn4255What has attitude to do with how he looks?
10/10 comment, hats off to you
hadi as he posing his muscles go hard and shredded
Hadi came in SHREDDED! Samson has a bubble gut and looked really soft in comparison.
Even a couple days out pics that stomach was noticeable
A bubble gut? Jezz... you've got to be kidding.
Samsons waist looks good but yes hadi is peeled peeled and will win
@@HoldingStonenah, he does have it g
@@HoldingStone Maybe not a full blown bubble gut like Justin, but it is visible distended and he cannot control it all the time.
Im a samson fan, but all the time my eyes get drawn to hadi , his conditioning is just that good!
I feel you it was strange I was trying to look at both of them but it was like I could stop looking at Hadi, that was weird.
Hadi’s waist got way better, when he came out he reminded me of Derek.
His waist is also at least 4 inches wider then the Defending Champ's waist who is. 6 inches taller and who has better balance and symmetry !
@@yanceyh.1850 balance? His back shots are terrible. And he has a worse V taper in the abs and thighs
@@JasonCsokrates Pose for Pose.
Sampson 🏆!
Conditioning overall not really close either.. but this is bodybuilding so unless you are like prime Coleman nothing is guaranteed. This is not even taking to account the politics involved
I agree. His waist is improved a bit and it really shows. Hadi ftw
Hadi came back with a vengeance
i was in costant aw seeing hadi look like this. its incredable, hadi's got this in the bag .
Samson is bigger in height but my eyes drawn to Hadi all the time.
And a whole separate post for Rafael _freaking BRANDAO!!!_
Damn. Look at him next to James: that says it all. Give him another year to consolidate the size gains and regain his old level of conditioning at this new level of development, and he's absolutely a top-6 Olympian.
Hadi is just plain ripped. He looks fantastic. He looks like he was chiseled out of stone.
Game over. Hadi looks at his all time best.
The Persian Wolf gets a Arnold trophy to go with his Sandow. Nice!
Looks like we are about to witness a Jay Cutler comeback 2.0
Hadi is going to win the Olympia again. His conditioning and how bigger he got this year is just insane! There’s no way Derrick is beating hadi.
Hadi got this fr
Id like to see rafa posing together with samsom and hadi for the fun of it. Such a nice physic ❤
Hadi just too overwhelmed for Samson. Samson is on point and not off. It’s just Hadi got deeper details and that crazy conditioning.
Hadi is ripped to the bone
I had no clue why you guys say Samson had more shape than Hadi, If it's true then it's not by any large margin. Hadi's waste is tighter With a better vacuum and a better set of abs.
samson has no abs compared to the others. at this point, i have hadi winning and #4 taking second over samson
@@hartattack0725 Hadi's 100% winning here. But let's not be crazy: John de la Rosa does not have the shape to compare with Samson. Just no chance. Sorry.
@albutcher9152Hadi is more aesthetic than Samson if you look objectively.
Are you serious? If you have a set of eyes and a working knowledge of this sport (which you clearly don't) then you will understand the fundamentals of shape. Choopan is a triumph of condition with a massive blocky physique that will soon be trounced by the arrival of genetic superiors! A conditioned Douda is the end of Choopan, plain and simple.
@@hartattack0725
What an idiot 😂
Man Hadi is even pulling vacuums like it is nothing now. So hes got the crazy abs flex AND the vacuum pose. Dereks going to be pushed to the limit next mr o.
Hadi mogged Samson because he outshaped Samson 😂😂
Samson wasn’t able to control his midsection specially when he relax
it shows Hadi can still comeback for that Mr.O title he look tight n well balance for a guy that is known as being blocky he even display better x frame than Samson. i said it 3 weeks ago Samson need to watch his midsection and tonight it shows that midsection hurt him
That side tricep on Hadi is nasty
Hadi’s side tricep and back shot were phenomenal
Hadi's got this !
Hadi looks shredded and is on point.
I remembered that version of hadi in Vancouver pro 2019, crazy condition but this time with a huge size
Hadi improved from the O big time. He beats Derek looking like this. Derek’s got work to do👀
Should have beaten him at 2023 but he is coming for that 2024 Mr Olympia the other guys better be ready
@@ViktorM1 You got that right - and this is coming from a guy who is all in favour of shape and flow being prioritized in the criteria. But Hadi's _detail_ and abdominal control is outstanding. If he can keep bringing his back hardness and separation up, he should be undeniable at the O. That might be a lot to ask for though.
Unfortunately, both the 212 and Open 2023 Olympia decisions make it clear that they've gone a little too far in the other direction in rewarding shape right now. Though I can understand penalizing Clarida for the extent to which he blew out his abdomen, that was _absolutely_ not the case with Hadi.
Hadi is the rightful 2023 Mr. Olympia, and he looks like he's ready to pull a Jay Cutler in 2024.
@@alistairwillock7266 But Hadi has aesthetics now I don't think he's missing anything.
Lets hear it for Antoine making it into the first callout! Huge improvement! 💪
Hadi is winning for sure, I think Rafael looks insane but need to get sharper
Hadi & Wesley both looks sharper they both should win...Hadi wow he looks bigger and sharper and what back shot happy for him
Samson will not be happy when he finds out that the grainy filter was not turned on. 🥵🤬
Where's the heart NSP? Best Comment
Bro roasted even nsp
😂😂😂😂
I did not expect Hadi to destroy Samson like that. This should not be even close.
My eyes keep going to Hadi!!!
Can we talk about hadi’s vacuum pose??? Amazing!!!
That was impressive 👍🏼👏🏻
Hadi looked absolutely Incredible ! 🔥🔥🔥
Happy to see Antoine in the first callout. Guy is awesome
So underrated, his front double biceps is better than most of the guys in the first call out
I’m a Samson fan, but this version of Hadi is incredible 🐺👑
that midsection on hadi is just insanity
Samson looks like guest poser standing next to Hadi
Was about to write the same thing 😂
Antoine is an easy 4th in my eyes with Hollingshead coming in 6th, but besides that I agree with your placings
Nick is spot on...Hadi is aesthetic as well.
Derek definitely watched the show. And the 2024 Mr.O battle started earlier.
Hadi absolutely annihilates samson in the most muscular, wtff
Hadi killed it
Samson guts gonna cost him the trophy.
100% agree
glad im not the only one who thinks so. feels like not a lot of people mention this for some reason
Raph is so good, wow looks great, legs ARMS.....and a back wide as hell :)
Hadi never skips a beat
Hadi has this in the bag , but impressed Antoine’s structure and how it flows
Rafa looks insane
The side tricep is just the most beautiful pose, and both guys looked great
its Hadi all day
they did a nice job on the lighting
"That's where Hadi nailed Samson here, Hadis backshots were really impressive" HOL ONNNNN
Extremely happy to see James in the first callout. Really hoping for a fifth place finish for him, he's looking awesome and he deserves it.
Hadi 1
Samson 2
Brandão 3
Id personally like to see Wesley next to C bum they're both taller competitors.
"Hey Samson do an Abs and thighs." "Is it okay if I only show my thighs?"
Raf looks so good y’all. His aesthetics are wild
when hadi hit that side tricep shot. It was game over. Kind of reminded me when Nick Walker hit the same sort of pose when he won the Arnold
damn rafael looks so damn good too
Bodybuilding is about size, symmetry and proportions, and Samson SMOKES Hadi in any of those categories!
Bring the stage lighting back from the late 90's
Hdi C is no 1,
And Samson has bubble gut stomach!
I agree, I think Hadi has it. He is just cut to the bone.
I think they do such a good job with the lighting for the Arnold.
I've always been a Hadi fan, and this is great to see. I love how he sneaks in a quick vacuum just to prove he can, solidly, despite the bulk.
The prediction is professional and accurate. Thanks for the great program👍
Nick Walker,Hadi Chopan,Derek L:💪💪💪
So happy for Antoine making the top callout, he looks great
Hadi has won it!!! And Wesley has won it in Classic!!!
Besides conditioning, Samson's midsection control seems to be a weakpoint. It's not a horrid bubble gut, but it does seem to spill over. It's losing him points on side poses he'd potentially have Hadi beat on.
You’re right on with your comments! Great job, breaking it down!
Samson midsection is his down fall. Those ab separation don't look good
Looks like Kai Greens
So happy for Antoine!
Props must also go to the other 4. Rafael, John, James and Antoine. They are all at their absolute best ever. Amazing work
What happened to Horse ?
I was there tonight. Samson has the most insane stage presence. He walked out on stage and it was like all eyes were on him. A beast walking on stage. But in the poses, even if they were close from the front, the back was where Hadi really impressed me. I think Hadi has it for sure.
To be honest I think this is the best version of Hadi that we've seen since the 2019 Vancouver pro
I think that you’re right about Hadi. He looks just a bit tighter than Sampson, and yeah… Deric better watch out! Hadi is definitely Back!!!
Lighting is perfect this year ✨️ 👌🏻
Seeing it in person, makes a huge difference.
Your Analysis is spot on. 👌
James looks the best he ever has! He is as good as John or better. I would love to see him side by side with rafael