Ipswich were unlucky with only the two trophies in Robsons reign. Should have won maybe 2/3 more. 80/1 should probably have won the league and the following season Liverpools amazing run in the second half of the season cost them
@@geoffpoole483 beating man utd at Old Trafford then following Tuesday losing at home to Norwich. Watched a documentary about that defeat even then bobby Robson talking about challenging for league title. I feel sorry for today's fans sanitised football I expect the fans will have to wear hi viz and take induction diversity course before being allowed in.
@@garychallis8293 Ipswich qualified for the UEFA Cup at the end of this season, and knocked out Real Madrid. This game is a bit like a changing of the guard, the remnants of Man Utd's European Cup winning side overshadowed and outperformed by the new kids on the block. Robson built some fine sides between 1972 and 1982; much more to ITFC than the 1981 side.
Fair play to the late Bobby Robson , he built some great teams at Ipswich, always playing attractive attacking football, and that game was just at the beginning of his reign after Fulham sacked him !
Robson became Ipswich manager in 1969. His first three seasons at the club were difficult. I think this game was at the beginning of the season when everything clicked. In those days Ipswich had a fantastic youth system (Beattie was just one example). It's incredible that Robson signed just 13 players when he was at Ipswich.
28:10 what on earth could the “business engagement” have been that required Bobby to be substituted 10 minutes from the end of a match ??? Good gracious !!
I had forgotten about this game as its now 50 years ago. The footage is great, Gerald Sinstadt really good too. But sad to see United’s great players so lacklustre. Great to see Beattie’s debut. What a player. But in the same team were the unlamented Jefferson and Hammond. Ipswich kicked on from this point but United….all l can say is the crowd were very patient
Did you get this straight from Granada? It’s great to see such high quality film …. really brings the players to life so much better than the grainy stuff we usually see from this time.
Amazingly sterile atmosphere for the first day of the season at Old Trafford, and the football they played on the day was ponderous, tentative and indecisive. The dark age of Manchester United had definitely begun.
The decline of a once great team. Now too old. After Law scored with a few mins left, instead of grabbing the ball & running to restart they just sauntered to the halfway line. Tommy Docherty would change all that after relegation.
@tigerarmyrule I feel sorry for Ian Moore. A dream move for most but he entered to a pile of poo. Tommy got rid of him & his career went off the radar, but he can always say I played with Charlton Best & Law & a pile of turds! Back then high drama, big teams could & did get relegated. Not now. They will always be in top third & the usual teams go up & down like a yo yo. Boring.
Tavy@ after the 1971,72 season that was last we saw of the best of George Best! And maybe law and charlton to! But best was just a passenger there! It was as sad as hell to see at only 26 year old! Charlton was 34. Law was 32. But charlton said he was retiring at the end of the 1973 season at age 35. He was up there with the greats of the game. What a player he was! And denis law as well. But utd sacked him not long into 1972 or 73 and in the most cruel way to. He found out through the newspapers. Wtf. I have heard man utd are a two faced sort of club. Or were really bad for it back then! Sacking people with a phone call after 20 years service. And we know who was in charge in 1962 to 1971 and longer but a diffrent role. Best had just threw hes talent away to cut a huge story short.
Tommy Docherty kicked Denis from the club without telling him anything. Sad but true. Denis did not deserve to be treated like that. He is the only Scot to win the Ballon D'Or.
Yes to be honest Bobby could have played a few more years. Dennis had a damaged knee and that was another thing United kept from him, the extent of the damage. The team should have been built around Best but most of the time later on he tried to do too much on his own but it had gone.
Very much a subdued OT for virtually the whole game, often long periods of silence. Better passing from a much more organised Ipswich. With more consistent ball control, it would have been a more emphatic score line. Both look mid-table teams.
..and the bell tolls.. Charlton Best & Law, it doesn't get any better, yup, it gets a lot worse! Ian Moore sadly made what seemed like a dream move to find himself in the do do. Tommy Docherty, once relegated, got the broom out & swept most of them out & telling Charlton time to retire. Moore's career was never the same after that debacle period. Best also couldnt hack it in the top flight anymore. Docherty created a new Old Trafford side, unfortunately the quaint little white picket fence, which no one crossed before, would be replaced with prison like pointed high bars due to a large destructive hooligan mob who besmirched a great club. Shame on you all, even today.
The way United were (mis-)managed in the late 60s and early 70s was just unbelievable. The three superstars, who by this stage were no longer very super but were undroppable and unsackable, and a squad full of dross. Who did United even sign between about 1965 and 1971? Ure, Morgan.... is that it? No wonder things hit the skids.
@tigerarmyrule I suppose my comment primarily referred to the "hierarchy" - the chairman and the board, who bungled Busby's succession calamitously, and seemed to have little to no interest in either signing good players or building structures that would last. But Busby;s role is also worth examining and I think some of your points may have a lot of merit. It's always hard to judge with an iconic figure who receives very little criticism. Whatever his faults though, the period 1964-1968 was exceptionally successful for United so I don't think that should be downplayed. It's what came next that was so disastrous.
@tigerarmyrule yeah he might have been in his 50s but what in god's name do you think the Munich disaster did to him emotionally and mentally? I can't believe I am reading that from a supposed red. Disgraceful.
While around the same time the Liverpool side of the 60s were also in decline ,but unlike United the Liverpool back room staff were already looking to the future with players like Keegan, Clemence, Heighway, Hall , Neil, Hughes making their debuts to guarantee future success, at United besides the few signings such luminaries as James, Sartori, Edwards we’re emerging. No wonder we got relegated in ‘74, it was coming a long time.
The start of the Robson success years with beattie playing his first game shouldn't keep looking back but I'll never see the like again
Ipswich were unlucky with only the two trophies in Robsons reign. Should have won maybe 2/3 more. 80/1 should probably have won the league and the following season Liverpools amazing run in the second half of the season cost them
I coount myself lucky to have been growing up in Iswich in the 70's and 80's.
@@geoffpoole483 beating man utd at Old Trafford then following Tuesday losing at home to Norwich. Watched a documentary about that defeat even then bobby Robson talking about challenging for league title. I feel sorry for today's fans sanitised football I expect the fans will have to wear hi viz and take induction diversity course before being allowed in.
@@garychallis8293 Ipswich qualified for the UEFA Cup at the end of this season, and knocked out Real Madrid. This game is a bit like a changing of the guard, the remnants of Man Utd's European Cup winning side overshadowed and outperformed by the new kids on the block. Robson built some fine sides between 1972 and 1982; much more to ITFC than the 1981 side.
RIP Tony Dunne ... Thanks for the loyal service - MUFC
Kevin Beattie RIP
Reunited with Paul Mariner in football heaven tonight.
I played with the Beat at Bruntenh park, legend!
Fair play to the late Bobby Robson , he built some great teams at Ipswich, always playing attractive attacking football, and that game was just at the beginning of his reign after Fulham sacked him !
Robson became Ipswich manager in 1969. His first three seasons at the club were difficult. I think this game was at the beginning of the season when everything clicked. In those days Ipswich had a fantastic youth system (Beattie was just one example). It's incredible that Robson signed just 13 players when he was at Ipswich.
IPSWICH had 10 great years top 6 most season's or more 3rd 4th 2nd also , great cup run domestically and in Europe
Too the bloke uploading this amazing footage....nice 1 chief ❤️🇮🇪
My first ever game ! What a find on UA-cam. Cheers !!
Me too didn`t fancy the Stretford end so went for the more civil scoreboard end.
In presence of the late Bobby Charlton! What a fortune, you have seen so great Man!
28:10 what on earth could the “business engagement” have been that required Bobby to be substituted 10 minutes from the end of a match ??? Good gracious !!
I had forgotten about this game as its now 50 years ago. The footage is great, Gerald Sinstadt really good too. But sad to see United’s great players so lacklustre. Great to see Beattie’s debut. What a player. But in the same team were the unlamented Jefferson and Hammond. Ipswich kicked on from this point but United….all l can say is the crowd were very patient
Did you get this straight from Granada? It’s great to see such high quality film …. really brings the players to life so much better than the grainy stuff we usually see from this time.
You lucky bugger mine was jack Charltons Middlesbrough beating Ipswich 3 - 0 at home it still hurts
Amazingly sterile atmosphere for the first day of the season at Old Trafford, and the football they played on the day was ponderous, tentative and indecisive.
The dark age of Manchester United had definitely begun.
Subdued crowd for the most part, little from MU to get
excited about, a team serving up mid-table mediocrity.
Wow Gerald Sinstadt … “Tip-up seats“ no less !! 0:17
Well
The decline of a once great team. Now too old. After Law scored with a few mins left, instead of grabbing the ball & running to restart they just sauntered to the halfway line. Tommy Docherty would change all that after relegation.
@tigerarmyrule I feel sorry for Ian Moore. A dream move for most but he entered to a pile of poo. Tommy got rid of him & his career went off the radar, but he can always say I played with Charlton Best & Law & a pile of turds! Back then high drama, big teams could & did get relegated. Not now. They will always be in top third & the usual teams go up & down like a yo yo. Boring.
@@wildbill6826 The Doc didn't get rid of Storey-Moore; he retired through injury, much to the Doc's disappointment.
Tavy@ after the 1971,72 season that was last we saw of the best of George Best! And maybe law and charlton to! But best was just a passenger there! It was as sad as hell to see at only 26 year old! Charlton was 34. Law was 32. But charlton said he was retiring at the end of the 1973 season at age 35. He was up there with the greats of the game. What a player he was! And denis law as well. But utd sacked him not long into 1972 or 73 and in the most cruel way to. He found out through the newspapers. Wtf. I have heard man utd are a two faced sort of club. Or were really bad for it back then! Sacking people with a phone call after 20 years service. And we know who was in charge in 1962 to 1971 and longer but a diffrent role. Best had just threw hes talent away to cut a huge story short.
Tommy Docherty kicked Denis from the club without telling him anything. Sad but true. Denis did not deserve to be treated like that. He is the only Scot to win the Ballon D'Or.
MU Is probably the only British team to have three Ballon D'Or winners. Bobby Charlton Denis Law and George Best.
Yes to be honest Bobby could have played a few more years. Dennis had a damaged knee and that was another thing United kept from him, the extent of the damage. The team should have been built around Best but most of the time later on he tried to do too much on his own but it had gone.
Oh
Very much a subdued OT for virtually the whole game, often long
periods of silence. Better passing from a much more organised Ipswich.
With more consistent ball control, it would have been a more emphatic
score line. Both look mid-table teams.
man U without any defensive midfielders.
Belfitt went to Everton in a swap move with David Johnson didn't he ?
..and the bell tolls.. Charlton Best & Law, it doesn't get any better, yup, it gets a lot worse! Ian Moore sadly made what seemed like a dream move to find himself in the do do. Tommy Docherty, once relegated, got the broom out & swept most of them out & telling Charlton time to retire. Moore's career was never the same after that debacle period. Best also couldnt hack it in the top flight anymore. Docherty created a new Old Trafford side, unfortunately the quaint little white picket fence, which no one crossed before, would be replaced with prison like pointed high bars due to a large destructive hooligan mob who besmirched a great club. Shame on you all, even today.
The way United were (mis-)managed in the late 60s and early 70s was just unbelievable. The three superstars, who by this stage were no longer very super but were undroppable and unsackable, and a squad full of dross. Who did United even sign between about 1965 and 1971? Ure, Morgan.... is that it? No wonder things hit the skids.
@tigerarmyrule I suppose my comment primarily referred to the "hierarchy" - the chairman and the board, who bungled Busby's succession calamitously, and seemed to have little to no interest in either signing good players or building structures that would last. But Busby;s role is also worth examining and I think some of your points may have a lot of merit. It's always hard to judge with an iconic figure who receives very little criticism. Whatever his faults though, the period 1964-1968 was exceptionally successful for United so I don't think that should be downplayed. It's what came next that was so disastrous.
@tigerarmyrule yeah he might have been in his 50s but what in god's name do you think the Munich disaster did to him emotionally and mentally? I can't believe I am reading that from a supposed red. Disgraceful.
While around the same time the Liverpool side of the 60s were also in decline ,but unlike United the Liverpool back room staff were already looking to the future with players like Keegan, Clemence, Heighway, Hall , Neil, Hughes making their debuts to guarantee future success, at United besides the few signings such luminaries as James, Sartori, Edwards we’re emerging. No wonder we got relegated in ‘74, it was coming a long time.
Ni Maradona ni Messi ni Pele, el mejor de la historia fue, George Best.
A truly terrible United performance.